Kyle is better than just about anyone on dirt along with Christopher Bell who also wins quite a bit on diet tracks still . Other than that Larson is just average at best let's be honest about this .
Shaq can say whatever he wants, all he could do is dunk. Micheal Jordan was better at basketball the sport than Shaq was. Kyle Larson is on every level a better driver than Max other then open wheel asphalt racing... congrats to Max for figuring out that tho.
Almost as allergic as Nascars fanbase is to understanding what racing is. Denny is better at driving a car than several Nascar champions but sure lets harp on the meaningless playoff championship. It did so much for Blaney... Denny is a driver pos Nascar and its drunk fanbase dont deserve. Larson is leaving soon too and Busch and Denny retire soon.... woo wee Nascar is gonna die.
Just taught a guy how to perform CPR on a guy with a Denny Hamlin t shirt in Wal-Mart that had fallen to his knees and, even though I'm a trained EMT, i didn't feel comfortable getting near him as it smelled as if he may have also soiled himself.
It's Pocono 2022 all over again If Hamlin misses the Championship 4 by 10 points and dominates Phoenix, people will look back on this penalty and say He lost the championship because of that.
Then you have drivers like Mario Andretti and Juan Pablo Montoya who have won in F1, Indy Car and NASCAR Races. And, AJ Foyt and Andretti are the only drivers to have won both the Indianapolis 500 and Daytona 500. And, Tony Stewart won a USAC triple crown and IRL championship before winning his three cup championships. Kyle Larson is the latest in a long tradition of drivers who can win in anything with an engine. It will be interesting to see what Larson will do before he's done or who the next versatile driver will be.
Thats funny that you see all those "men" wearing Danny tee shirts. Contrary to what you and posters on this board post, Danny must be very popular if so many are wearing Danny tee shirts. Haters will be haters.
@@toyotaecwthe crew chief is ultimately responsible for all things related to a specific team. It doesn't mean he necessarily has to pay the fine himself, but as the position at the top of the heap for that individual team, that's where the fine is sent for their responsibility in making sure systems are in place and things like this don't happen. Also, third party supplier deniability is not an acceptable excuse.
If Denny Hamlin misses the Final Four this season by less than 10 points, we know why. This would be his third different way of missing the Final Four in the last three years 2022 - Hail Melon 2023 - Broken Steering 2024 - L2 Penalty
If I was handling and Michael Jordan the money that Jordan has I would sue Toyota for possible illegal practices they were up to something with all those blown Motors and they Blended on valve train problems yeah right they're doing something cheating why did their cars run so good or especially Hamlin he seems to have speed every week maybe they better take a better look at his Motors or better yet go to Toyota and look at what they're doing NASCAR what are they pulling behind your back that's easy to do because you don't know what you're doing and you don't look at stuff Toyota had to tell you they were cheating what a joke you better figure out how to keep track of these motors duh
So in other words, NASCAR didn't have a chance to tear down the race winning engine themselves to see if it was illegal. Surprise, surprise, before we get NASCAR figuring it out, we get the "honesty" of TRD self reporting!
@@acog_quarks8753 He's implying that TRD took the engine because it was illegal and rebuilt it before NASCAR's inspection to cover up anything that was illegal about it. Pure speculation.
@@user-nx3zi3eh7w there was ZERO "speculation" in my post! Either you have a reading comprehension issue or you are so in love with Denny that you would suck up to TRD to cover for them! Reread "slowly" in a 1st grade or special needs kind of way the statements of TRD and of NASCAR, the do the same with mine. The NASCAR process in place is for ALL engines to remain sealed until turned over to NASCAR to have the seal removed, before NASCAR disassembles the engine, looking for illegal modifications, before it is then shipped to the related engine supplier that rebuilds it, when it then gets a new seal before being used in future races, which are tracked as to which races each engine is used in. The FACT and the REASON that the PENALTY was administered is because this process wasn't followed. There is ZERO speculation in any of that. ....and with he POINT being that the process is in place to watch for illegal engine modifications, that thus couldn't be inspected for, there is NO WAY to know if Denny's Bristol win was LEGITIMATE. There is ZERO speculation in my statement. I NEVER stated "it was illegal," or "the Bristol win was illegitimate," but that that we will now never know!
@@johnlafever3162 and I never mentioned that you said it was illegal, I stated that you implied it. Apparently reading comprehension is hard for you. And I'm not a Denny or TRD fan, I just call out people's bullshit when I see it.
@@user-nx3zi3eh7w then you need to call yourself out for reading bullshit into other people's word when it's not there! I wasn't hiding anything. As an obvious fact, I have zero motivation to not just speak my mind. Why in your Satanic world would I need to "imply" anything. I said they skipped the process designed to check for cheated up engines, on an engine that won the Bristol race. If that's not suspect I don't know what is. That's not implying. That's a logical explanation of the process and the result of bypassing the inspection process. It's highly suspect. Obviously I can't just state it was a cheated up engine, because it was inspected and it's been rebuilt already. That's why they were fined, if you're unaware. BTW, are you calling out NASCAR on their "bullshit?" ..,for "implying" TRD "could" have got away with cheating up that engine, by bypassing the inspection process, thus warranting the heavy fine? I call bullshit on you!
I very much believe that TRD knew that engine was illegal so instead of letting NASCAR dig into it and slap them with a huge penalty, they did this themselves preemptively to get a lower penalty.
That penalty shouldn’t be for 10 playoff points. Denny Hamlin not the team had anything to do with it! Why the hell does this come out 5 months AFTER the race?!
@@timezero7443JGR is responsible for not letting the engine inspection proceed sending it out to California, it’s still up to JGR to ensure they abide by the rules and TRD likely wasn’t in the loop with the status of that engine.
The first video of Verstappen responding to a question is not a response to Larson. This is a video from a few months ago and it's a response to a general question about the best driver in the world.
We were all standing around a guy in Walmart wearing a #11 T shirt and on his knees sobbing uncontrollably, probably wondering if Denny will ever get a Championship.
If there was to be any sort of ride swap or race between Larson and Verstappen, I think the track of choice should be COTA. It is one of the only tracks I can think of that both drivers have raced more than once.
@@trevor4533NOT IF YOU CAN BACK IT UP…! DALE EARNHARDT THE INTIMIDATOR USED THIS TECHNIQUE TO GET INTO DRIVERS AND FANS HEADS ALIKE…! JUST LOOK IT WORKED WITH YOU…!!! 😂😂
Some dude in the tampon aisle of walmart was crying on his knees as I heard about this. I, on the other hand, could give a shit kess about Denny or if he ever wins a championship.
If you love just road racing your idea about SVG is fine… Throw in some WORLD OF OUT LAW SPRINT CARS , SUPER LATE MODEL, CUP CARS AT BRISTOL AND DARLINGTON and if thats not enough throw in some midgets or rally cars..! 😎🤭😮🏁🇺🇸 and SILVER CROWN and….😳
Max Verstappen and Kyle Larson as the last two starters in this year‘s snowball derby. Let them both start at the rear, and whoever finishes ahead of the other wins.
Verstappen isn't some almighty racing God. The only reason he is where he is, is because the cars aren't equal in F1 or anywhere near it for that matter.
People think he’s a racing God because he races F1 and presently dominates a series that seems to have eras of domination by drivers. Let’s take Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen. Only five seasons were won by someone I did not name since 2000. That’s 24 seasons. Those four drivers have won 275 of the 469 races in that time period. That’s 58.6%. F1 just comes across as uncompetitive to me. By no means am I discounting anything less than a great driver but it is strange that Verstappen is viewed as the best in the world by virtue of being best in F1 presently.
I so wanted this advent calendar but im in the UK and there is no shipping option to the UK what a shame guess they dont much care for NASCAR fans in the UK, just went to place an order to find no option for the UK but offer it to Australia & Japan WTF guess Lionel dont much care or want money from us fans in the UK shame :(
Leaving south Georgia tomorrow morning heading to the race, hopefully get to meet ya, been watching your channel for a while now, and honestly it's one of the best, this video is a prime example! Updates, news, everything!! Great job and please keep it up
I understand the owner points, but 10 playoff points is basically 2 wins and the 75 driver points is almost 2 wins minus any stage points. That just seems steep for something that he had no control over as the driver of the car. I don't even see how that's justified at all. I'd say the max for the driver points should be like 25 and 5. It wasn't like it was an on track violation, it was the engine tear down at the shop. The timing of it is a bit odd considering what just happend a week ago and Denny calling out NASCAR again. Not saying it's not a violation, but still.
@@donniebutler5918 And as such, all on a team are responsible and are judged according to the rule book. Toyota own, builds and maintains the engines while Gibbs and others use them through some contractual level. Jayski's site has a penalty report that spells out the rules
As a "European", i agree with Kyle that he most likely is the best driver. BUT, roadracing, rally, rallycross are all big motorsports in rest of the world.
No racing discipline compares to winged sprint car racing. The F-1 discipline is a narrow and limited discipline ( all road courses correct ? ) Think about the talent it takes to set up a car for a totally different track every couple of nights and track conditions that change throughout the racing night ! Challenging to both driver and crew chief . On top of that Larson successfully races NASCAR, almost weekly, oval and road courses , mini sprints , over the off season and now dabbled in Indy series successfully. Kyle is the A.J. Foyt, Tony Stewart of our time , he can win in any discipline and in my humble opinion currently the best driver in the world!
Larson is 100% right by saying he's way more versatile and would win more than Max if they somehow had a weird tournament where they both had to race every car in existence. Max is very skilled in one thing. Larson is skilled in many very different styles. Does that make someone "better"? Who cares.
@@DennyDeliversYTI don’t think this would be a bad thing to appeal though, considering the fact it wasn’t JGR’s fault and they have to deal with the consequences
@@timezero7443 yeah idk tho… nascar levied the smallest L2 penalty they can since TRD self-reported… and the rule is pretty black and white so it’s probably better not to appeal
Why is a crew chief find $100,000 for something he had little to no control over, yet a driver is only find $50,000 for shenanigans with their vehicle on Pitt Road in front of pedestrians?
No he’s not. He’s a once every 10 years driver. It’s like you’ve completely forgotten the F1 has had a consistent chain of great drivers on par with Max dating back to Fangio. You have Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Vettel, and Hamilton.
Denny Hamlin & Joey Logano are both cry babies . They both have deliberately wrecked other driver , but cry when it happens to them . They Noth need kicked out of NASCAR . They don't know the meaning of sportsman's ship .
@@ChaseAustin111 I'm just pointing out that even he doesn't dominate in his own discipline in his own series... To think someone like Max (or other top drivers in other series/F1) couldn't learn to be good at the other disciplines is short sided... Look at Logano win his first time on dirt, we see who quickly SVG is getting up to speed in NASCAR....
To be fair Larson only finished 1 race at Bristol Dirt(a 4th place in 2022) while in 2021 a slower truck had issues in front of him with another truck broadsiding Larson while in the Cup race that year Bell lost it on his own and took him out and in 2023 he got flat out dumped.Not to mention he won the 2016 Eldora truck race and likely could’ve won a truck race at Knoxville if he had run one of them.
I wonder what they took out of that engine before they rebuilt it and how many engines did trd disassemble and rebuild for nascar inspection after winning races
If Nascar Could've Inspected The Engine 3 Or Months Ago Then There'd Would've Been No Way Of Nothing Stopping Them From Rebuilding It And Using It, Instead Nascar Waited To Inspect It Closer To When Jgr Was About To Use It Again
Max is following Tywin Lannister's advice from the game of thrones. "The Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep." And " Anyone who has to say 'I am the King' is no true King."
I like the ride swap idea; and could be a realistic possibility considering how open Red Bull is to using their F1 cars in unorthodox ways. Another thing to consider is, the current F1 regulations would allow for a '22 F1 car to be used. Not sure if Rick Hendrick would be willing to provide a Next Gen chassis, but I'm sure they have a test car that could be used; or even the Garage 56 car. Honestly, I'd love to see it happen!
Exactly what I said what ever they messed with they were switching it back they weren't blowing all them engines for just part malfunction maybe the part they swapped
If Nascar and F1 wanted to make some money they should hold a invitational where 10 Nascar Drivers and 10 F1 drivers come together to race at a track that both sides agree too.
We have the Race of Champions where various drivers from several different racing disciplines races very different cars to what they are used to. Including drivers from F1, Nascar, WRC, WEC, Indycar, Touring car, and more The WRC drivers typically dominate, though the F1 drivers do have a respectable amount of wins. Including 6 straight wins in the Nations cup with the team of Vettel and Schumacher from 2007-2012 Though Juan Pablo Montoya does have a RoC Individual Title to his name
That just tells me the engine was illegal and they knew it, so they sent it to be disassembled knowing that self reporting would be a less offensive penalty. There’s no way it’s an unintentional mistake, these companies are not that stupid.
I can 100% believe this theory, especially with all the engine "trouble" that TRD has had lately. Seems like they've been doing some Hendrick-esc mid season experimenting
Anyone that doesn't think Hunter -dingus is a moron, here's your proof. Your claim that Denny knew the engine was illegal makes flat earthers look smart by comparison.
its a trd violation. hads nothing to do with gibbs at all. engine was used at another race then they tore it down until they realized its a winning motor. seems like an honest mistake
I can't believe no one has said this: have them do the ride swap at Circuit of the Americas. It's a track they both know very well and have won at. I think that would show us who is the best.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with Dillon says but nascar claiming they are not a destruction derby...any super speedway race and any short track race all they do is beat and bang. Hell SS races all you do is wait until the last 10 laps to really see whats going to happen.
@jakehobby3477 what I mean is award the 2nd place car the win which is truex therefore locking him in just like pocono with denny kyle busch getting DQ and 3rd palce elliot grtting win
Denny last Monday: "The rules are the rules and Austin has to live with them. This sport needs structure and integrity." Denny, next Monday: "It's wrong that I should be penalized for the manufacturer (that I willingly align both my teams with) breaking a black and white rule." Seriously, though. I'm breaking chops, but this sucks for the 11 team. It's seemingly a legitimate mistake, and he prob loses the chance at a title yet again.
Don't get me wrong. I love what Kyle is doing. He's the best thing that has ever happened to dirt track racing and we all owe him a great deal of thanks for that. But he's going to have to win in the indy cars to top A J and that's going to be tough because of his other commitments.
Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty? Steve: No. Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty? Steve: No. Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty? Steve: Fine.
Indy 500 "rookie of the year" after 1 race? What the heck does that even mean? So a baseball pitcher in his first career outing can pitch a 7 inning shutout with only 4 hits and 1 walk and get rookie of the year? Someone make it make sense please.
It's an award specifically for the Indy 500; IndyCar has a separate full-season RotY award as well. Think of it like the difference between the Super Bowl MVP award vs the NFL regular season MVP
Just saw a guy wearing a Denny Hamlin shirt fall to his knees in the middle of Walmart
Did it happen to be @DennyDeliversYT?
Bro caught DennyDelivers in the wild
Cmon admit it.. that guy was you wasn’t it
Read comment above lol
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here i am on a random thursday afternoon… and i just fell to my knees in the middle of walmart…
Same man same. I was eating my lunch and this video dropped 😭
my jaw dropped too
Lol
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Man so bummed
Did anyone else see that guy who fell to his knees at walmart
he falls to his knee's when Denny tells him to.. at least he has class and zips up his pants.
Yeah he was screaming maniacally about how it’s all some guy called hendricks fault
No, seen.his mom thou....
I never thought I would see this comment on a NASCAR news video.
Just left Walmart, but I saw a guy in a Denny Hamlin shirt fall to his knees in the middle of the store.
might’ve been dennydelivers 😂
@@jayREMY71 😂😂
And you thought that was your job
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Kyle Larson: I'm better than Max
Nascar fans: Kyle's better than Max
F1 fans: Max is better than Kyle
Max: I don't give a shit
LOLOL
I love Max!
Classic Max response
Kyle is better than just about anyone on dirt along with Christopher Bell who also wins quite a bit on diet tracks still . Other than that Larson is just average at best let's be honest about this .
Shaq can say whatever he wants, all he could do is dunk. Micheal Jordan was better at basketball the sport than Shaq was. Kyle Larson is on every level a better driver than Max other then open wheel asphalt racing... congrats to Max for figuring out that tho.
@@bkbaughnanybody but louie
Respect to Max for taking it as is and refusing to give the press the drama it wants.
Facts 💯
Some guy in aisle 6 just collapsed
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Kyle Larson knows what he’s doing. He’s playing into the drama to increase the eyes on NASCAR. Good for him.
Denny Hamlin is allergic to winning any championship
Almost as allergic as Nascars fanbase is to understanding what racing is. Denny is better at driving a car than several Nascar champions but sure lets harp on the meaningless playoff championship. It did so much for Blaney... Denny is a driver pos Nascar and its drunk fanbase dont deserve. Larson is leaving soon too and Busch and Denny retire soon.... woo wee Nascar is gonna die.
The modern day Mark Martin only they liked Mark but dang shure Hate denny 😂
@@zumptt where Yung Money going INDY Car
@@zumpttand even under the old system Denny never came close to. He’s a Mark Martin just not as nice or chill as mark .
Allergic? Is that whatever calling choking nowadays. Hamlin is his worst enemy.
Just taught a guy how to perform CPR on a guy with a Denny Hamlin t shirt in Wal-Mart that had fallen to his knees and, even though I'm a trained EMT, i didn't feel comfortable getting near him as it smelled as if he may have also soiled himself.
Disgusting…
Joe Gibbs’s engine department has been a disgrace this year
Gibb's doesn't build the engines, TRD of Costa Mesa California does... Blame goes to Toyota.
@@T.N.D.88 TRD*
Maybe if denny wasn't a scumbag I'd feel bad for him
TuRD??? 😂
@@MikeDodds Yes, a TuRD in NASCAR's punch bowl🤣
NASCAR SAYS: "We don't want to be a demolition derby."
I say: "Then why do you insist on having those Green-White-Checker finishes."
It's Pocono 2022 all over again
If Hamlin misses the Championship 4 by 10 points and dominates Phoenix, people will look back on this penalty and say He lost the championship because of that.
I was literally thinking this same thing as soon as I heard about the penalty.
Or the fact that he just sucks@@pinetreenation7769
I get your point, but I remember Logano dominating Phoenix in 2022
I really really hope that happens lol
@@andyjennings15why such a hater of the best driver in NASCAR?
Then you have drivers like Mario Andretti and Juan Pablo Montoya who have won in F1, Indy Car and NASCAR Races. And, AJ Foyt and Andretti are the only drivers to have won both the Indianapolis 500 and Daytona 500. And, Tony Stewart won a USAC triple crown and IRL championship before winning his three cup championships.
Kyle Larson is the latest in a long tradition of drivers who can win in anything with an engine. It will be interesting to see what Larson will do before he's done or who the next versatile driver will be.
Larson has zero clue about actual downforce and would be clowned in an f1 car.
"were not a demolition derby" the week before a race at Daytona🤣
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Yay 2 x 2 half throttle. Wooo
Be careful for what you just said Steve Phelps lol
I’m leaving Walmart right now and men are falling out everywhere,what the heck is going on? Most of em had Hamlin tee shirts on. What’s up?
Thats funny that you see all those "men" wearing Danny tee shirts. Contrary to what you and posters on this board post, Danny must be very popular if so many are wearing Danny tee shirts. Haters will be haters.
How do they fine Gabehart $100K when TRD took blame. I hope TRD refunds that penalty.
I would guess TRD pays it
TRD: We messed up…
NASCAR: Okay, we’ll fine the crew chief for your mistake!
Seems legit
@@toyotaecwthe crew chief is ultimately responsible for all things related to a specific team. It doesn't mean he necessarily has to pay the fine himself, but as the position at the top of the heap for that individual team, that's where the fine is sent for their responsibility in making sure systems are in place and things like this don't happen. Also, third party supplier deniability is not an acceptable excuse.
Mark Cronquist used to build all their engines when they had Chevrolets
@@user-rx7ns4re9u TRD engines are Chevrolet engines.
Yo guys I just saw someone fall to their knees at Walmart while screaming “Why Denny Why”
ROC- Race of Champions is where they need to settle this debate. The people that run ROC would love to have both of them.
Is F-1 or Indy Car drivers racing a full-size car really fair? 🤔
Wish they would bring IROC back I loved watching them races be all kinds of drivers
IROC was just all around good fun.
@@juancatfish1 it’s not usually a full size car. Carl Edwards went one year and did amazing.
@@MichaelWilliams-vb6wr IROC and ROC are different. Speed use to show it every year, it was always a good showing for the US guys
If Denny Hamlin misses the Final Four this season by less than 10 points, we know why. This would be his third different way of missing the Final Four in the last three years
2022 - Hail Melon
2023 - Broken Steering
2024 - L2 Penalty
If I was handling and Michael Jordan the money that Jordan has I would sue Toyota for possible illegal practices they were up to something with all those blown Motors and they Blended on valve train problems yeah right they're doing something cheating why did their cars run so good or especially Hamlin he seems to have speed every week maybe they better take a better look at his Motors or better yet go to Toyota and look at what they're doing NASCAR what are they pulling behind your back that's easy to do because you don't know what you're doing and you don't look at stuff Toyota had to tell you they were cheating what a joke you better figure out how to keep track of these motors duh
Truly a generational choker
@@norandomstuffhow is any of those issues a CHOKE? It’s all OUTSIDE of his control. Dennys 54 Total wins is also a choking too huh? You ignorant fool
Let's not forget that he broke the steering last year by playing demo derby with the 12 for several laps almost immediately before the "part failure"
Let's not forget all the ones he didn't make because of a lack of skill.
3:47 “ if there not blowing engines there…” pause hahahaha
I am no fan of Denny, but it doesn't sound like he had anything to do with that violation.....
Yeah that’s what I thought to
@@vinnybagabullets1272 Welp, that's why they call it a team
Ya but he got whacked points and that's the best part!
He definitely didn't. BUT, you win as a team, you lose as a team, you get penalties as a team. This is nothing even remotely new in NASCAR.
No argument here lol
So in other words, NASCAR didn't have a chance to tear down the race winning engine themselves to see if it was illegal.
Surprise, surprise, before we get NASCAR figuring it out, we get the "honesty" of TRD self reporting!
What are you trying to get at here?
@@acog_quarks8753 He's implying that TRD took the engine because it was illegal and rebuilt it before NASCAR's inspection to cover up anything that was illegal about it. Pure speculation.
@@user-nx3zi3eh7w there was ZERO "speculation" in my post!
Either you have a reading comprehension issue or you are so in love with Denny that you would suck up to TRD to cover for them!
Reread "slowly" in a 1st grade or special needs kind of way the statements of TRD and of NASCAR, the do the same with mine.
The NASCAR process in place is for ALL engines to remain sealed until turned over to NASCAR to have the seal removed, before NASCAR disassembles the engine, looking for illegal modifications, before it is then shipped to the related engine supplier that rebuilds it, when it then gets a new seal before being used in future races, which are tracked as to which races each engine is used in.
The FACT and the REASON that the PENALTY was administered is because this process wasn't followed. There is ZERO speculation in any of that.
....and with he POINT being that the process is in place to watch for illegal engine modifications, that thus couldn't be inspected for, there is NO WAY to know if Denny's Bristol win was LEGITIMATE.
There is ZERO speculation in my statement.
I NEVER stated "it was illegal," or "the Bristol win was illegitimate," but that that we will now never know!
@@johnlafever3162 and I never mentioned that you said it was illegal, I stated that you implied it. Apparently reading comprehension is hard for you.
And I'm not a Denny or TRD fan, I just call out people's bullshit when I see it.
@@user-nx3zi3eh7w then you need to call yourself out for reading bullshit into other people's word when it's not there!
I wasn't hiding anything. As an obvious fact, I have zero motivation to not just speak my mind. Why in your Satanic world would I need to "imply" anything.
I said they skipped the process designed to check for cheated up engines, on an engine that won the Bristol race. If that's not suspect I don't know what is. That's not implying. That's a logical explanation of the process and the result of bypassing the inspection process.
It's highly suspect.
Obviously I can't just state it was a cheated up engine, because it was inspected and it's been rebuilt already. That's why they were fined, if you're unaware.
BTW, are you calling out NASCAR on their "bullshit?"
..,for "implying" TRD "could" have got away with cheating up that engine, by bypassing the inspection process, thus warranting the heavy fine?
I call bullshit on you!
I am an ambulance driver.... I have just been dispatched to a Walmart for apparently a guy with scraped up knees ??
If VanGisbergen kicks your ass in your car and track, you might not want to go international 😅
Happened once as the first street course ever for nascar drivers and in the wet. He didn't even come close this season.
I very much believe that TRD knew that engine was illegal so instead of letting NASCAR dig into it and slap them with a huge penalty, they did this themselves preemptively to get a lower penalty.
This is not their first illegal engine. They've had multiple.
That penalty shouldn’t be for 10 playoff points. Denny Hamlin not the team had anything to do with it! Why the hell does this come out 5 months AFTER the race?!
Beats me 🤷♂️
Yeah I could see owners point penalty but driver points doesn't seem right
How is this a question? Did you not pay attention to the reason for the penalty whatsoever?
@@JamesJozefbut it wasn’t the teams fault, it was TRD’s fault, JGR just has to deal with the consequences when it’s not their fault
@@timezero7443JGR is responsible for not letting the engine inspection proceed sending it out to California, it’s still up to JGR to ensure they abide by the rules and TRD likely wasn’t in the loop with the status of that engine.
Looks like Dennis will have content for another poor me podcast. 😢😢😢
This was not expected my book for Hamlin's penalty
Smart move, report this to show how honest you are so they don't question what TRD was testing in all these blown engines
Especially since it was the race winning engine!
The first video of Verstappen responding to a question is not a response to Larson. This is a video from a few months ago and it's a response to a general question about the best driver in the world.
F1 and NASCAR are two different racing disciplines.
Gotta appreciate Eric with these quick uploads while he’s on a tight schedule to catch his flight! ✈️
We were all standing around a guy in Walmart wearing a #11 T shirt and on his knees sobbing uncontrollably, probably wondering if Denny will ever get a Championship.
Poor Denny !! I can hear him whine now !
From an expert😂
Off topic but, Tyler Reddick man.
24 - 23 stats
1. 1st / 6th (Position) +5
2. 2 / 2 (Wins) =
3. 11 - 10 (Top 5’s) +1
4. 17 / 16 (Top 10’s) +1
5. 2 / 2 (Poles) =
6. 472 / 470 (Laps Led) +2
7. 9.04 / 10.17 (Avg Start) -1.13
8. 10.50 / 15.67 (Avg Finish) -5.17
The playoffs haven’t even started
Every stat is either better or the same than last year. Hes cookin
Probably his engine is cookin. Probalby we won't see much from the TRD drivers this season.
Watch Max retire from F1 just to try and beat Larson 😂
Larson: “I would survive the second Red Bull seat” 😂
If there was to be any sort of ride swap or race between Larson and Verstappen, I think the track of choice should be COTA. It is one of the only tracks I can think of that both drivers have raced more than once.
Kyle Larson didn't even start this it was started an being pumped up by DRAMA QUEENS
And He Added Fuel To The Fire By Saying He Was Better Than Max,He Should Have Just Said He Max Are Good At Both Their Disciplines
When you boast that you’re the better over all driver and end it with “you can quote that!”
You might be a bit of a drama queen😂
@@trevor4533NOT IF YOU CAN BACK IT UP…! DALE EARNHARDT THE INTIMIDATOR USED THIS TECHNIQUE TO GET INTO DRIVERS AND FANS HEADS ALIKE…! JUST LOOK IT WORKED WITH YOU…!!! 😂😂
This has gotta be the best comment section I've ever seen 😂
Why 😅
@@lnascar7401 the stuff about the guy in walmart...
Some dude in the tampon aisle of walmart was crying on his knees as I heard about this. I, on the other hand, could give a shit kess about Denny or if he ever wins a championship.
Man I’m just walking in Walmart and there’s some guy in a Hamlin shirt on his knees sobbing hysterically
Just in case none of y’all knew, Norm Benning is gonna try and make the Truck series race this week.
LETS GO BABY!!!!
Show ends at 13:27
I just want more SVG vs Larson, i think SVG vs Verstappen would be a epic video both are with Red Bull too.
thats true honestly and Chicago they had really good battles and SVG actually won that race 2 years in a row
Scott McLaughlin is probably closer to Max Verstappen than SVG or Larson. And if Scotty ever switches to NASCAR I bet he picks it up faster than SVG.
@@toyotaecw you aren't wong
If you love just road racing your idea about SVG is fine… Throw in some WORLD OF OUT LAW SPRINT CARS , SUPER LATE MODEL, CUP CARS AT BRISTOL AND DARLINGTON and if thats not enough throw in some midgets or rally cars..! 😎🤭😮🏁🇺🇸 and SILVER CROWN and….😳
Max Verstappen and Kyle Larson as the last two starters in this year‘s snowball derby. Let them both start at the rear, and whoever finishes ahead of the other wins.
Verstappen isn't some almighty racing God. The only reason he is where he is, is because the cars aren't equal in F1 or anywhere near it for that matter.
People think he’s a racing God because he races F1 and presently dominates a series that seems to have eras of domination by drivers.
Let’s take Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen. Only five seasons were won by someone I did not name since 2000. That’s 24 seasons. Those four drivers have won 275 of the 469 races in that time period. That’s 58.6%. F1 just comes across as uncompetitive to me.
By no means am I discounting anything less than a great driver but it is strange that Verstappen is viewed as the best in the world by virtue of being best in F1 presently.
Hell, NASCAR has even had F1 drivers come over and race in NASCAR
I so wanted this advent calendar but im in the UK and there is no shipping option to the UK what a shame guess they dont much care for NASCAR fans in the UK, just went to place an order to find no option for the UK but offer it to Australia & Japan WTF guess Lionel dont much care or want money from us fans in the UK shame :(
Damn. This literally came out of nowhere. I like how you were about to talk about something totally different 😂
As a Larson fan i was like the 11 what!! Hell yeah!!!
Leaving south Georgia tomorrow morning heading to the race, hopefully get to meet ya, been watching your channel for a while now, and honestly it's one of the best, this video is a prime example! Updates, news, everything!! Great job and please keep it up
Have fun I went last year
Remember “Boys have at it”. Did it disappear?!? Rubbing is racing and that’s real nascar
Wrecking isn’t rubbing.
Best way to settle the debate is simple
World Grand Prix from cars 2 with some small changes
I understand the owner points, but 10 playoff points is basically 2 wins and the 75 driver points is almost 2 wins minus any stage points. That just seems steep for something that he had no control over as the driver of the car. I don't even see how that's justified at all. I'd say the max for the driver points should be like 25 and 5. It wasn't like it was an on track violation, it was the engine tear down at the shop.
The timing of it is a bit odd considering what just happend a week ago and Denny calling out NASCAR again. Not saying it's not a violation, but still.
TRD is his team.
@@donniebutler5918 And as such, all on a team are responsible and are judged according to the rule book. Toyota own, builds and maintains the engines while Gibbs and others use them through some contractual level. Jayski's site has a penalty report that spells out the rules
As a "European", i agree with Kyle that he most likely is the best driver. BUT, roadracing, rally, rallycross are all big motorsports in rest of the world.
As an Owner/Driver who speaks out displeasure with NASCAR, Jim France has decided to spank Denny's bottom.
i just saw a guy wearing a denny hamlin hat collapse in the middle of walmart
No racing discipline compares to winged sprint car racing. The F-1 discipline is a narrow and limited discipline ( all road courses correct ? )
Think about the talent it takes to set up a car for a totally different track every couple of nights and track conditions that change throughout the racing night ! Challenging to both driver and crew chief .
On top of that Larson successfully races NASCAR, almost weekly, oval and road courses , mini sprints , over the off season and now dabbled in Indy series successfully.
Kyle is the A.J. Foyt, Tony Stewart of our time , he can win in any discipline and in my humble opinion currently the best driver in the world!
Larson is 100% right by saying he's way more versatile and would win more than Max if they somehow had a weird tournament where they both had to race every car in existence. Max is very skilled in one thing. Larson is skilled in many very different styles. Does that make someone "better"? Who cares.
RC had to find a way for Hamlin to be penalized too 😂 All jokes aside Hamlin should appeal this and maybe bribe like Hendrick does.
as much as i hate it, there’s no chance 11/JGR appeals this… 😭
@@DennyDeliversYTI don’t think this would be a bad thing to appeal though, considering the fact it wasn’t JGR’s fault and they have to deal with the consequences
Except they don't. Then again JGR fans are the people they claim Hendricks fans are.
@@timezero7443 yeah idk tho… nascar levied the smallest L2 penalty they can since TRD self-reported… and the rule is pretty black and white so it’s probably better not to appeal
lol edited comment.
Why is a crew chief find $100,000 for something he had little to no control over, yet a driver is only find $50,000 for shenanigans with their vehicle on Pitt Road in front of pedestrians?
Max doesn’t give a shit😂😂😂
Max isn’t just a good driver tho
He is a once in a century driver!
No he’s not. He’s a once every 10 years driver. It’s like you’ve completely forgotten the F1 has had a consistent chain of great drivers on par with Max dating back to Fangio. You have Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Vettel, and Hamilton.
I just want to see Kyle Larson stay humble, but I would love to see them compete against each other.
I am not even a Denny Hamlin fan, but damn! NASCAR is literally working against him. (or his team is working against NASCAR).
Both.
Denny Hamlin & Joey Logano are both cry babies . They both have deliberately wrecked other driver , but cry when it happens to them . They Noth need kicked out of NASCAR . They don't know the meaning of sportsman's ship .
Just saw a guy filming a guy in a Denny Hamlin shirt fall to his knees in Walmart...
To be fair… Larson hasn’t even won the dirt race in NASCAR
Point to be made is that where ever he goes, he has beaten the best in their division and very quickly!
@@ChaseAustin111 I'm just pointing out that even he doesn't dominate in his own discipline in his own series...
To think someone like Max (or other top drivers in other series/F1) couldn't learn to be good at the other disciplines is short sided...
Look at Logano win his first time on dirt, we see who quickly SVG is getting up to speed in NASCAR....
To be fair Larson only finished 1 race at Bristol Dirt(a 4th place in 2022) while in 2021 a slower truck had issues in front of him with another truck broadsiding Larson while in the Cup race that year Bell lost it on his own and took him out and in 2023 he got flat out dumped.Not to mention he won the 2016 Eldora truck race and likely could’ve won a truck race at Knoxville if he had run one of them.
I wonder what they took out of that engine before they rebuilt it and how many engines did trd disassemble and rebuild for nascar inspection after winning races
Sometimes I hate beeing a hamlin fan 😢
Also wtf does this shit take so long? It is kinda laughable to me tbh
If Nascar Could've Inspected The Engine 3 Or Months Ago Then There'd Would've Been No Way Of Nothing Stopping Them From Rebuilding It And Using It, Instead Nascar Waited To Inspect It Closer To When Jgr Was About To Use It Again
Max is following Tywin Lannister's advice from the game of thrones. "The Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep." And " Anyone who has to say 'I am the King' is no true King."
I think Max just took the high road. It wasn’t like Larson was calling him out. Someone asked about his opinion, and he gave it.
Carl Edwards beat Schumacher in a head to head road race. Kyle Larson wipes the floor with Max
I like the ride swap idea; and could be a realistic possibility considering how open Red Bull is to using their F1 cars in unorthodox ways. Another thing to consider is, the current F1 regulations would allow for a '22 F1 car to be used. Not sure if Rick Hendrick would be willing to provide a Next Gen chassis, but I'm sure they have a test car that could be used; or even the Garage 56 car. Honestly, I'd love to see it happen!
Other words they had a cheated up engine in their car they're covering their ass
In a race that was a saving tires race. Like just stop and think how insanely daft you sound
Exactly what I said what ever they messed with they were switching it back they weren't blowing all them engines for just part malfunction maybe the part they swapped
If Nascar and F1 wanted to make some money they should hold a invitational where 10 Nascar Drivers and 10 F1 drivers come together to race at a track that both sides agree too.
We have the Race of Champions where various drivers from several different racing disciplines races very different cars to what they are used to. Including drivers from F1, Nascar, WRC, WEC, Indycar, Touring car, and more
The WRC drivers typically dominate, though the F1 drivers do have a respectable amount of wins. Including 6 straight wins in the Nations cup with the team of Vettel and Schumacher from 2007-2012
Though Juan Pablo Montoya does have a RoC Individual Title to his name
That just tells me the engine was illegal and they knew it, so they sent it to be disassembled knowing that self reporting would be a less offensive penalty. There’s no way it’s an unintentional mistake, these companies are not that stupid.
I can 100% believe this theory, especially with all the engine "trouble" that TRD has had lately. Seems like they've been doing some Hendrick-esc mid season experimenting
I think this is what Denny needs to push him harder in the playoffs usually he’s in a way better spot at the start
Anyone that doesn't think Denny Hacklin is a cheater. Here's your proof. About time Nascar busts his ass.
Anyone that doesn't think Hunter -dingus is a moron, here's your proof. Your claim that Denny knew the engine was illegal makes flat earthers look smart by comparison.
Max and Kyle are both hilariously direct
Send max and Kyle down to Cleetus McFarland race track and race crown Vics
I just saw someone fell to their knees in the middle of walmart
its a trd violation. hads nothing to do with gibbs at all. engine was used at another race then they tore it down until they realized its a winning motor. seems like an honest mistake
Well mistake doesn't mean you don't get punished
They have so many checks and so much tracking of stuff there is no way they didn't know ahead of time what engine it was.
I can't believe no one has said this: have them do the ride swap at Circuit of the Americas. It's a track they both know very well and have won at. I think that would show us who is the best.
Not really a Denny Hamlin fan but for this guy I'm sure this is crushing for him. The ironic part is it was none of his or Gibbs doing.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with Dillon says but nascar claiming they are not a destruction derby...any super speedway race and any short track race all they do is beat and bang. Hell SS races all you do is wait until the last 10 laps to really see whats going to happen.
Dam of the win was taken from hamlin would lock truex in he finished second at Bristol
Hamlin win at Bristol doesn’t count towards playoffs anymore
@jakehobby3477 what I mean is award the 2nd place car the win which is truex therefore locking him in just like pocono with denny kyle busch getting DQ and 3rd palce elliot grtting win
Love That Verstappen Isn't Entertaining The Drama 💯
Denny last Monday: "The rules are the rules and Austin has to live with them. This sport needs structure and integrity."
Denny, next Monday: "It's wrong that I should be penalized for the manufacturer (that I willingly align both my teams with) breaking a black and white rule."
Seriously, though. I'm breaking chops, but this sucks for the 11 team. It's seemingly a legitimate mistake, and he prob loses the chance at a title yet again.
Don't get me wrong. I love what Kyle is doing. He's the best thing that has ever happened to dirt track racing and we all owe him a great deal of thanks for that. But he's going to have to win in the indy cars to top A J and that's going to be tough because of his other commitments.
It’s not even JGR’s or Denny’s or the teams fault, so why do they have to deal with the penalty? It makes no sense
They still had to get the engine inspected before using it again.
@@jennyfletcher5573 but why is it taking so many months now for them to report it?
@@timezero7443umm because they investigated it closely why are you having a hard time with this??
@@truckercowboyed2638 bc JGR isn’t responsible for disassembling the engine, they just install it, not disassemble it
Team sport
Max prolly had to google who that larson guy is LMAO
if my mom had balls she'd be my dad
basically the larson vs verstappen debate
Why doesn't NASCAR tear down the winning engine after the race they supposedly inspect the cars after the race
I wanna go to Daytona one day
It’s so worth it, I have a video on my channel about what it’s like if you’re interested
You'll be disappointed, but if it's on your bucket list go for it!
Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty?
Steve: No.
Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty?
Steve: No.
Richard: Can we appeal Austin's penalty?
Steve: Fine.
The black cat strikes again
Also in the article it read that Hamlin's Bristol win no longer counts for playoff elegibility but the win still stands
TRD probably needed parts from the engine since the others keep blowing up ☠️
Just saw a guy at walmart with a Hamlin shirt on his knees for 2 hours
Hamlin deserved to be penalized.
Indy 500 "rookie of the year" after 1 race? What the heck does that even mean? So a baseball pitcher in his first career outing can pitch a 7 inning shutout with only 4 hits and 1 walk and get rookie of the year? Someone make it make sense please.
It's an award specifically for the Indy 500; IndyCar has a separate full-season RotY award as well. Think of it like the difference between the Super Bowl MVP award vs the NFL regular season MVP
You just said it. Indy 500 rookie of the year. It's not Indy Car Series MVP.
@eth3792 Yeah, makes no sense whatsoever.