Good Video, reflects the real pro's and con's. Will agree on 95% to Rocketman pro & con's. Only the "complain" of the power output I'm not fully agreeing. It is still a 750 ccm bike. and 95% of the owners will be very happy with it. :-). Well done Sir.
Here it is. A well made review of the refreshed Honda Transalp. I think that you’ve been to harsh with the bike on its con’s . For the price this is a marvelous all around bike. A bargain. The bike looks good. Everything is generally of good quality. The sound it makes from stock is just wonderful, it seems you’re reving a much bigger engine. More torque and more power would be invading the AT realms. The wind protection from stock is the best on the segment. The Suzuki 800 DE has a better off-road performance , but that’s it. This Transalp is superior in every other department. In conclusion, I think for the money and in its category, this is an excellent option .👌🏻
I think for me never doing ofroad and i like to have high speed comfort without vibrations, the nc750x is the better option. Thanks for very honest review, this are rare nowdays.
Thanks. Yes, the NC is much smoother, but also a lot less powerful. If this isn't important to you, then obviously prefer the NC. Annelise, my dealer, has just bought an NC for herself :)
I too was disappointed to find no Range readout and also air Temperature is missing. I have used both a lot when riding 365. In England it is useful to know the temp when it gets very cold. My DL650 had a light that came on below 3 deg centigrade. The tyre noise that you mentioned often disappears when the tyres have been run-in. Also I have found that brakes can be far better after an initial period of use. I usually keep a bike for 2 years or 5000 miles before deciding whether it is a long termer. I think the lights don't show up enough, I have ridden with the full beam on and nobody has flashed me. I find the throttle a bit jerky at low revs sometimes too.
Thanks RM for another informative real-world analysis of this model, which we are still waiting for here in South Australia. It was "definitely" meant to be here a couple of weeks ago, but then "no stock"! From here it has looked like a poorly organised release of what is shaping up as a popular model. (Perhaps it has been organised by the Honda GP racing team)! In my case it will be doing the mixed-use tasks my old '95 Elefant 750 has been doing for many years, on the multitde of dirt roads in this area, and I expect it will have little difficulty in exceeding that bike in many areas (in spite of the extensive improvements to my old Elefant) but not all. The cluttered situation under the engine of the Honda, and its impact on ground clearance, is my biggest concern, as it looks difficult to resolve, and limits the bike's versatility off the bitumen. Likewise the lack of any frame to mount a bashplate on - an area the Elefant has a much better solution to, for the bashplate, all of which came stadard on that bike. Also I was surprised at the absence of an ambient temperature reading, when so much other less relevant information is displayed. Grip angle? Oh please... The angled valve stems have long been equipment on tubeless wheels, but not (yet?) on tubes. Tubeless not always better than tubed, depending on the degree of damage from a puncture, but that's a long topic on its own. But your candour and 'smooth delivery' of your views are very easy to listen to. Keep them coming. The views of those who have actually purchased the bike more valuable than the views of a 'vlogger' who needs to be loaned bikes, and may be 'careful' about criticising. Thank you. All your insights prepare me for when I finally get to ride the bike they have been telling me was just two weeks away since April...
Too high in the saddle (I'm 177 cm) and more offroad biased than I really need. Like The Aprilia, which I also test rode, those bikes are undoubtedly better in more 'gnarly' offroad situations than the Honda, but at the expense of road riding and comfort. Particularly the Aprilia's seat, although I did enjoy the 660. I just can't see me doing the hundreds of road miles on those bikes as easily as the Transalp, and the slightly higher seats make them feel a bit nervous about stopping on uneven ground. But thanks for the suggestion. @@alanbarnes2920
@@alanbarnes2920 A VERY late response to this reply, now 16,000 kms 'in' on my Transalp, and really liking it. The T7? A lot dearer here (Australia) and too tall in the saddle. The T7 undoubtedly better-equipped for off-road, but top heavy, less power, less fuel range, etc. I am getting 400 kms from a full tank. The Honda may not be for everyone, but as an 'all around bike' it is really ideal. It became smoother - both vibration and engine sound - after about 5,000 kms, and has honestly got better as I go. I have covered over 3,000 kms on the many dirt roads around here, and farther afield, and it has done fine. It could use some suspension upgrades for rougher terrain, but at the price that is arguably 'affordable'. But for dirt roads (as against tracks) it is fine. I have been surprised at how much I enjoy this very easy-going bike.
If you wanted more power you could’ve considered the africa twin. I think honda doesnt up the power on the transalp to remain a difference between the two otherwise there’d be no reason to get one over the other. Have you looked in to unlocking more power by tuning? Maybe an exhaust air filter and ecu tune could result in 15hp or more?
Regarding grip angle, as it looks useless now maybe it may help us to guess future features i.e. cruise control. I picked mine from the dealer yesterday. Coming from CB500X i really enjoy almost twice the horse power and yes, the rear tyre (Dunlop in my case) is getting loud around 110 kph
Very informative video, especially the engine heat which is not often talked about but very intrusive at the wrong time of year. It sounds like a pretty good bike for me however, unlike yourself, I'm struggling with the bland looks, perhaps I need to see one in real life...
As my AT has same tires - having same noise problem @ same speed (roughly at 95 it starts to 125 km/h when it ends - most annoying is 100 to 110 km/h). I am confident it is due to 21" rim in front(size matters :D). Done 2k now - still there :(
@@RocketMan_Moto Honda just slaps on what they can get cheapest from suppliers. My AT came with Bridgestones A41 which are even worse than Metzelers, the front is wobbly in curves, and they are already done after 4000km. I never knew a road tyre can melt this fast on the front, but those grooves weren't that deep when new in the 1st place. I think this is the case with most factory mounted tyres.
I was very impressed with the manoeuvrability of this bike when tested it , in comparison with my v Strom 1000 XT 2018 , it felt like a moped 😅only concern if trade it , I will miss that Torque of the big V-Twin (10 kg vs 7,5 on the transalp ). That feeling of brutal pull that leaves your heart behind as you clarified similar to the Speed Twin , is very addictive and hard to get rid of (I have Akrapovic and DNA filter on it )… but nearly same performance(10hp difference although PWR is better on Transalp) , less consumption and newer technologies on the Honda … idk 🤷🏻♂️ Any suggestions RM? ❤
@@RocketMan_Moto totally out of my budget ! In Greece it probably will have 4 times the Transalp’s price .. what do you say ? Is it wise to sell the V Strom 1000 for the transalp or it is considered serious downgrade ? 😛
A really interesting and informative video, you do wonder how they passed up a miles remaining fuel gauge and an ambient temperature gauge and instead added a throttle angle gauge is beyond me. But it looks a great bike overall.
It would be interesting to know why they have done this as most bikes nowadays have them. I will try to remember to ask my dealer or find a way to talk to Honda with feedback.
It’s all just marketing. They could easily give us fuel range (or cruise control), but then nobody would want the Africa Twin. A few weeks ago, we were looking at buying a VW Polo, until we discovered that you can’t spec it with a sunroof. You need to move up to the Golf for that🤦♂️
I suspect the low price is the reason such things weren't included. Fuel remaining and ambient temperature would have required extra sensors, whereas the useless grip angle was already available from the throttle position sensor, and presumably filled a gap on the TFT. They clearly decided to keep the Transalp 1. cheap, and 2. light, which affected all those decisions. They may have left themselves some features for later models - cruise etc. - but yes, many of these decisions were about keeping the Transalp well short of the Africa Twin specs. And price. Obviously Honda CAN offer these other features, but chose not to. All symptoms of being 'built down to a price'. I think we just have to accept these shortcomings at the relatively cheap ride-away price, or spend more on a European bike. The Tuareg is a great bike, if a little too off-road orientated for my use, but is over $22k here, while the Transalp is $15,760 on the road in Australia. The Suzuki 800DE is over $18k, so the Honda leaves a bit to spend on a sump guard etc. of our choice. Not necessarily the Honda option...
You weren't wrong about the tire noise around the 100-120kph point. I've just done the first 200km ony new bike and the whine from the Karoo's is horrendous. I hope they quieten down like yours have.
Hi, seems like a very good bike for the price and as you say, very pretty for an adventure bike. My question..... Can you get 90 degree valves on tubed tyres? They would be a pig to fit
can you do a more detailed review on the windshield, and fairing deflectors? you are the first i see with them, are they worth it if its not free swag?
Not really worth doing an entire video on them. Yes, they do help with both the standard and tall screen. Definitely worth the outlay, imo, but you’ll never turn the Transalp into a Goldwing😊
Great review - thanks. My NC750X has the same '6 bricks' fuel gauge problem as, for that matter, did my FJ09. I think that's the source of the missing range display. If it can't measure accurately how much fuel is left, it can't very well measure range.
@@RocketMan_Moto Motivated by your discussion, I got out the manual for my 2022 Honda NC750X and discovered that there is a "Subtraction Tripmeter" that you can preset to a specified range and it then counts down from that range as you ride. My tank holds 3.8 US gallons and my average milage over two years is about 66 mpg with the worst recorded milage about 60 mpg. I will thus set my subtraction trip meter to 3.8*60 = 228 miles and thus have a pretty good approximation of the range I have left. Not perfect but better than I thought possible before. Maybe your TransAlp has a "Subtraction Tripmeter" as well.
Rocketman and etm.. Thanks for the honest review and comments. I'm considering a mid weight adv. I have a vfr1200x dct. The Transalp, DE800, and NC750x and even KLR 650 are all options in play. The review made me appreciate my vfr even more. My mid weight choice is still up for grabs.
Had my transalp 2 weeks now and agree with your comments and observations. My biggest gripe is the handlebar vibrations even with grip puppies fitted and the rough sounding engine. Also think it needs more power as would rather have more in reserve rather than just enough but they won't give it more power because of the Africa Twin? Also for me the footpegs are in the wrong place and I seem to catch them when coming to a halt, but it is early days yet. I am going to order the accessory bar mount you have fitted to mount my satnav to as that looks like a good solution rather than to the handlebars.
There is only one 750 -ish p-twin with similar power density, and that is the KTM. It will loosen up, if my experience with Honda is any indication, and this is an engine designed to rev. Check your wrist angle meter. Honda didn't stint - give it the beans.
Thanks another great review, as I’m in the market for an adventure bike , as I would like to explore many dirt roads. Hence a question, is it adequate on a dirt road?
I'm very happy with it as a road bike and have tried it off road a bit. It'll do the job, but I'd probably look to the Tuareg or Tenere if my main aim was dirt riding
I got half way through this and thought: He is not going to keep that bike! The acid test is if you have a bike for 6 months and haven't changed anything, you probably never will. So is it a keeper or will you check out the Suzuki?
@@RocketMan_Moto 1300gs! Please don't join the pack. Have you reviewed the Tiger Sport yet? I suppose that would need an additional 40BHP as well 😊. Why do we eternally seek the perfect bike?
I always get used to the power and then immediately want more. My dream bike is a slightly bigger Speed Twin with about 150hp… but I’m sure if I ever got one, I’d be craving for 180hp after a month🙄😂
I must say that it is surprising to hear someone complain over 90hp on a 200ish kg bike. I have the older 650 version of the transalp wich is considerably slower with its 55hp/55nm and i never felt like ive been out of power. Then again i have opposite opinion to you, i belive that if you dont let her go wide open and atleast close to the redline atleast once or twice on a ride you simple have to much power! I like your content and this bike seems nice but im gonna hold back for a year or two and then see if i can score a used specimen or a cb500x with some goodies already installed. Edit: spelling and grammar.
You say 120-130hp is ideal, but your Speed Twin barely has 90, same as Transalp. Why do you use full throttle on your mid weigh ADV but not your Speed Twin?
Good comments imo, except I disagree on horsepower. It seems to me if you “need” 120 HP, then maybe you just need a bigger engine and a different motorcycle. The 750 and 500 twin ride is not a big HP event, but is one that many do find more fun and satisfying than mothering the throttle of a 120+ HP heavy weight adventure bike. But torque…. I agree. Should be increased as possible in the design phase, made available low and even sacrifice a few HP to get there using the inevitable trade-offs. Honda is usually good at this, sort of surprised this one has a weak bottom end torque. In my own experience at least, 750 class (non-supersport versions) bikes can be solid, very long lasting, and rewarding long road partners. But I really don’t much enjoy a weak torque low end if thats what is going on here.
My Ducati does have 160 BHP, and massive torque for its light weight (extensively lightened) but I don't need that much grunt on my 'dirt road bike'. Yes, the low-rev torque is delivered 'gently', but there's enough of it. And plenty of power as you rev it. The gentle low-end power is actually a good thing on loose surfaces. But mine has never stalled, in 5,000 kms, and it has never lacked power when I have needed it. The low-rev delivery is actually a bit deceptive.
The tire valve thing is 100% correct, straight valves are annoying! Even my street triple from 2008 has the 90° ones Edit: The fuel gage is unacceptable, I agree.
Taste is subjective but speed triples are ugly and outdated in my eyes all Triumphs for that matter.. Transalp looks far better.hopefully they get rid of CB headlight sometime soon.
the inverted horn & indicators have been a thing on Hondas for quite awhile. the idea is that the indicators are easier to reach from a resting position. I quite like it tbh
I hate it, I was always honking at people until I stopped using the horn altogether , now i'm muscle memory hornless .If I only had just the Honda I could have got used to it.
I must admit I initially didnt like them on my PCX I accidentally hit the horn a few times as I was used to the switchgear on my suzuki but I did a bit of thumb retraining and its fine now.
Coming from a Varadero MK2 to the new XL750V, I almost agree at all with you at the pros and the cons of this bike . About the missing of the range gauge, i would like to have it as well. But there is a very useful gauge of the fuel that consumed. Setting the Trip A auto reset, i can have a clear view of the remaining fuel in my tank. And believe me i prefer to know that there are 5.2 liters for example than to see a 145 km of range. Of course i would prefer both of them. Riding in Greece with ambient temperature at 43 Celsius, i must admit that this bike has an excellent heat dissipation from the engine and radiator. I am 1.75 tall and i believe that the optional higher windscreen is useful since i feel a lot of wind pressure after 130 km/h. I wish safe and enjoy riding.
Thanks for your feedback. You're right: there is an option of displaying how many litres of fuel you have remaining. Re. wind protection, it's a bit of a dark art, as I said in the video, and I think everyone has to experiment to find the best solution for them. Ride safe :)
Always admire your honesty in pointing out negatives it's refreshing. I must defend the brakes though (not that you were too concerned), with a relatively small contact patch due to thin front wheel on less than super grippy tyres, if you can activate the abs with standard set up then anymore would simply overwhelm the tyres. On abs shod bikes, it's the tyres (friction patch) which dictates braking power not disc size or calipers. Thanks again for early review, and allowing me to indulge.
Interesting theory but the KTM 1290 ADV-R has the same size front wheel as the Transalp and comes with seriously good radial Brembos… They don’t overwhelm the tire.
@@timothydubber549 Well they won't overwhelm the tyre, because the abs will kick in, but that's my point, if the standard system can activate the abs, then it's powerful enough. However the ktm is a bit more serious than transalp, so probably warrants classier gear. 👍
The Tuareg has VERY strong Brembos up front, fairly grippy pads, the same 90/90-21 front, and less power than the Transalp. I have not found that to be an issue on or off road. Honda often does this for bikes they expect newer riders to flock to and I almost immediately end up replacing the pads with something that has a bit more metal.
Excellent bike review. Very well done. Very useful information for all of us who do not get test rides and whom are pondering moving up to a 750cc. Design team bloke who presented the grip angle option ➡️🤤🤜📐. What were they thinking there?!
I guess it's a ride-by-wire throttle, so the "grip angle" is already being measured and no other sensor is required to display this info (pointless though it may be) on the dash. It's a cheaper option therefore than adding a more accurate fuel gauge, for example.
@@RocketMan_Moto once again top video. Really enjoy the channel, nice delivery and content. Just looking at Faro for a week in later September, just hope the wether is better than it is here!
The CB500X was one of my options to buy, a very nice motorcycle, but in the end I decided on the DR-650, it is a motorcycle that I wanted to have despite its old look.
@@RocketMan_Moto I don't know about that It's the perfect amount as it's also good for an A2 rider like me It's fast enough to go 150 and plenty more to over take without a problem Cruising in high speed is good at 180
You can buy right angle adaptors for your valve stems and just reset your trip meter when your fill the fuel tank. That's what riders have done for decades and still useful. It appears that Honda have cut some corners to keep the price down. In reality most people considering a Transalp either cannot afford an Africa Twin or want such a big, heavy bike and will buy another brand that is close in specification or price. I was keen on try a Transalp but without tubeless tyres, cruise control I immediately lost interest. When you factor in the need to spend significant money on handguards, bash plate, crash bars, centre stand, heated grips then the price (remarkably cheap) is not the incredible value you first thought. No doubt Honda will sell plenty of them but it is not the dirt weapon we were hoping for.
Great review, thanks. Just completed 700 miles on mine in the considerably colder north of England. Agree how light it feels and it’s certainly quick. I’m also getting 66mpg. 👍
Nice summary RocketMan, thanks! I took a demo bike out for a 2 hour test ride two days ago on a real mixture of rural and urban roads, wet and dry, and even a farm track. Handling was superb in all conditions, but it was vital to turn off the traction control for gravel and off road. Unfortunately it appears this must be reset in USER mode every time the ignition is turned off. That is my only gripe, so I bought one. I loved how light it felt and how easy it was to push around when off the bike. Like you, I am happy to add my own accessories to suit my personal tastes. I know it is subjective, but I think the new Transalp is by far the best looking adventure style bike out there. All the others, and especially the Suzuki 800, are just plain butt ugly!
Great video/review @RocketMan, I am finding the bike to be a great all round package, Having the fuel say how many k's you have left should be standard for a modern bike, Grip angle didn't even know that was a thing, There are plenty good thing's compared to my 2022 cb500x and the power i find pleasing. Jimmy Hutchison a pommy livin in Australia
Thanks, Jimmy. As you may recall, I owned a CB500X a couple of years ago and liked it. The Transalp is a decent upgrade from that, however, and I think it's worth the extra cash. Thanks for your feedback :)
I’ve had mine for a few weeks now based in Berlin in Germany. I disagree with some of the pros and cons from Rocketman. I think the seat is hard and somewhat unforgiving after a couple of hours. Fuel range is not a problem. I’ve never had a bike that had a fuel gauge that I could 100% rely on. Needless to say, when it gets to the bottom bar - fill up! It says in the manual that the light will come on when there’s about 3.5 litres left, which should give you about 60 to 70km to find a pump. I’m 1.70m tall and I can ride with my visor fully up with no real wind at any speed. I did. get the taller screen but no deflectors (which look cheap and nasty). 90hp is fine and expected from a 750. If rocketman wants 39hp more, then he should have spent twice as much and bought the Africa Twin - simple! The light is pathetic at night. I’m not sure what to do about that yet as tapping into the light system with a couple of searchlights will melt the cables. For me, the biggest tick in the box that rocketman didn’t mention is value for money.
I’ve got the taller screen and the dealer gave me the stock screen. Have you ridden with both or just the taller? I’m wondering whether to swap given the positive comments about the stock screen. I’m happy with the tall one but you know those niggling “I wonder” thoughts….
I haven’t tried the tall screen, I only have the short one. I’ve read a few comments in user groups saying that they’ve put the short screen back on because the tall one generates turbulence🤷♂️
You mentioned 130hp is perfect but you also mentioned your speed twin you hardly ever use full throttle and it's only 98hp which is only 8hp more than the Honda 🤔
These are no negatives, next time buy an Africa twin and you get what you want. what do you expect ....? you get what you pay for. for that price it`s f... cheap and still a HONDA
I sat on the 800DE and found it top heavy and the foot pegs are in the way when stoped. Now on to your excellent summery of your trans alpe. As always you list pros and cons. Just what we need, quality objective and comparative. Thanks for your insight.
@@RocketMan_Moto Well I was just guessing, I had to google it to see it actually does exist. Thing with that is, it's not a common solution, which means it adds to the cost, since it's not standard Honda catalogue, with extra assembly time. Most of the things you mention as negative in the video are because of cost reduction, since they already have the AT in 15k € range, this bike had to go down a class to around 12k max and all that was the only way to do it.
The power is perfect. The suzuki feels more poweful because the gears interval is smaller, but that means that the honda at 120km/h is at 4400 rpm and the suzuki is at 5500rpm, so fuel economy on honda is unmatched. If you want more power and better brakes….buy a more expensive bike, because at the price range this honda is again….unmatched. No fuel range on the gauge????? When it gets to reserve the bike starts couting the amount of fuel you spend cl by cl and the amout of kms you have done since, much better then the fuel range on other bikes that is constantly changing up and down. I have had 24 motorcycles during my life from R1 to CBR, Tracer 9, MT07, MT09, Vstrom etc and i can tell that this is the best allaround bike i owned. Sorry about the spelling….i am portuguese.
I think 30bhp extra is optimistic. I think most riders who's first adventure bike will be the transalp or thereabouts is about right. It a punchy engine to keep it interesting and usable enough. But 30 extra would put it in Africa twin territory. So I think the platform performs above average compared to completion (minus some interesting design)
@@RocketMan_Moto I'm in agreement with Nuggetmaate. Sounds like you want the power and torque of a 1250GS, but the weight and size of a 310GS. That's wishful thinking rather than classifying it as a negative😁
Kind of strange to complain about power. You knew before you bought the bike that it has 92HP and not 130HP. If it would be advertised with 92HP and then only had 75HP, I would agree with the complaint. You may be better served with a Multistrada or a KTM 1090 .
I,m a mature rider with quite a few bikes under my belt and have never owned a bike with modes, cruise control, backlit switches, cruise control, quick shifter and to be honest I’ve never even thought about that sort of stuff. I,m really good at changing gear. What bugs me is not having a centre stand as standard - does this bike come with one? All the other stuff just seems like fluff to me, but then it would be a dull world if we were all the same. Glad you enjoy the bike overall. Cheers.
I'm with you on all those 'extras' - I never had them before either, and would actually be happier if the Transalp (I'm hoping to be able to pick mine up soon) had none of the 'stuff' you mention. I'm good at chnging gear too... The centrestand is an optional extra, available either from Honda or SWM Motech, like the bashplate. At least we get the choice of brand of add-ons. Yes, they come on the Suzuki - bashplate and handguards - but if you wanted metal ones you only have to duplicae the parts it comes with. So these parts being optional makes sense in that respect. If your use doesn't require those parts, you don't have to pay for them on the bike.
I really like the toggle switch on the Hornet when I had a test ride, and ordered it , still waiting,-and the switches, to me, seemed to be good quality. The air valves on the rims is an appalling cost cutting exercise. I've had my CB650R for years now. I find the horn/indicator thing totally fine. I used to annoy other people with accidental bleeps far more on my various Yams. But, I yam (sic) absurdly biased, I've never bought a European, or (good grief) an American bike. I, of course, adore my homeland, Perfidious Albion, but know where the value lies. Or, I've always bought Japanese bike and never, ever, felt the need to change. Safe riding; I hope it's not too hot in the Algarve.
Thanks, I was starting to think I was the only one who thought the brakes and engine just a little lacking. Don't get me wrong the bikes been fine, I am however just a little underwhelmed by it. This will have a lot to do with me buying this bike for what I actually need rather than previously always buying something that goes like a scalded cat. The weight of the bike is just right for me as I get older and nurse the ever growing list of aches and pains.
I think underwhelming is the word. I'm not disappointed, as it's exactly as I thought it would be, but I'm glad I've got the Speed Twin in the garage, as well..
RocketMan ... you should pursue a career as a voice actor ... great voice for this sort of stuff! As for the bike ... can't wait to pick up my new black TA next week. Your videos are great and greatly appreciated ... I think your gripes are perhaps a little on the so-what-side-of-things ... a rack bolt that hasn't been countersunk? Really! That makes the top 10 list? Must be a great bike for sure. Are you an engineer, perhaps? :-) Anyway - good review. Thanks. ...oh and by the way, only an Englishman would call Gibralta a geopolitical oddity .... :-P
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I think it's the bike I need, but when the dealer let me have it to test it, I heard that annoying noise at exactly that speed, and that's what stopped me from purchasing. I entered the video looking for precisely this topic, and I'm surprised that no one else mentions it (at least I haven't found it no matter how hard I searched). Thank you very much for sharing your experience; I may talk to the store again. Translated with Google, sorry if there are errors.
Great video as usual mate. Now I do not want to come across negatively. As I change my bikes as often as you do. And the Transalp has sparked my interest. However, after watching many of your recent videos I feel like the ultimate bike for you would be a KTM 1090. The non R model. It looks like you mainly ride road and possibly a bit of smooth gravel. With 125hp, a 19" front wheel. Admittedly the buttons on the handlebars are typical KTM and seem a little cheap. However they work, the placement is great. The whole bike just works. Has a great sound. I would say a good spread of power and torque. And if you fit a 90/10 tyre like a 'Tourance Next' they perform really well on road and smooth gravel roads. And if you are worried about reliability a friend of mine has a 1290 SAR. He has done 250,000 kms on the original engine. The engine has failed now. However, in that time it only ever had basic servicing carried out. It never had the heads off or anything major. I'm between 5'8" and 5'9" and I seem to manage the 1090 no worries. Its alot more manageable than my old 1190R. That was a tall bike. Anyway mate, just a bit of food for thought. I'm sure you will get a lot of enjoyment out of the Transalp the more you ride it. Cheers
You’re probably right, but my adventure bike is very much a second/third bike. The Speed Twin provides the thrills, the Transalp is really just transport😊
I had such a nice time cycling the Algarve in Jan. Lagos wasn't my thing, but that got me out and exploring on a rented bicycle. But the coastal roads made for brutal pedaling, and I'd have loved a motorcycle to change things up. I see I passed within a block of Honda in Portimao. Had I known I'd have stopped in for a look around. TA looks interesting and I want to throw a leg over one when it finally gets to the US, since I'm 6'3" and I'm folded a bit tightly on the now-lower-than-before NC750x. But I carry groceries more than I ride gravel, and TA is still not here, so NC750x it is. You'd hate that bike's 58hp, but I have to say, as a returning geezer rider who's pretty sedate, the smooth engine and DCT shifting make it a pleasure to ride. I'm ruined now. I don't miss a clutch lever one bit. I get about 75mpg on that thing as well. Your engine noise vid did sound a bit like my snowblower. If you see someone on a bicycle waving frantically as you pass by on the TA, next January, that'll be me.
Yes, the NC is a valiant machine and I love the frunk, but it’s become too small for me and it’s not powerful enough to take on the motorway traffic here. Not a huge fan of Lagos, either😉
I'm surprised you can feel the 50 pound difference (riding anyway). The canted-forward engine and low tank seem to make that NC feel much lighter than its 500 pounds to me, except when picking it up or pushing it around with my feet on gravel.
Thanks RM, fuel range is a luxury you need when the bike is new to you??? Driving a 1989 transalp no such luxury, but you quickly learn your average mileage, knowing that I can go 250-300 km before reserve and 50-75 on reserve, I dont see the problem, is a budget bike!!! I have been tempted, but then decided I didnt wanna pay for TFT and gadgets, so mine stays!
When you'll test drive the 800DE you'll feel real lucky to own the Transalp 750 from the point of foot vibrations around 5K-6K rpm and the amount of heat comes from tthe engine when in traffic or slow speeds in Mediterranean summer days. Thanks for this great review, waiting for my Transalp 750 in the first days in September. PS: I hadn't test the quick shifter when I test drove the Transalp but from your testimony I guess it might be smoother compared the 800DE.
Another excellent video. Regarding the niggles: A cap cover kit will hide those allen style bolts on the handlebar clamp (Amazon), but it’s annoying to have them blemish so quickly. I routinely use a magnetic tank bag and think the fuel tank is plastic. That would annoy the heck out of me. Regarding the display: I’ve owned two Suzuki Burgmans and The largest numbers displayed are for average fuel mileage or ambient temperature (toggle between them). The 750 Transalp sounds like an excellent choice. I’m happy for the 270 crank engine. The 270 crank engines just sound “right “ to me.
My Indian FTR and Guzzi Mandello both have fuel range. Both are meaningless as it keeps varying with how you ride and the roads I'm on. The reality is that I get around 120 miles before reserve on the FTR and around 140 miles on the Mandello, so a simple countdown is all that I need or want. On the subject of Honda, as a motorcycle trainer, I'm often asked about what would be a good first bike. Whenever the subject of Honda crops up, I tell them that it's the Ronseal of motorcycling. It does what it says on the tin, reliably, efficiently and without fuss. I've had a couple over the years and had no regrets.
Its interesting to hear another owners opinion, so thanks for that. I've had mine a month now and covered about 500 miles. Some points of my own. Tyre noise: I can't say I've noticed this but then I rarely do long high speed trips. Fuel baffle: I agree its annoying. I've had similar devices on my SV650's and someone pointed out that it was to stop you filling the tank completely. The reason for this is to leave an air pocket so that in the event of an accident where the tank gets crushed it stops itf rom bursting. Rough engine: The engine is certainly not as smooth as my SV650 and feels a little agricultural at low revs. I'm not convinced that these 270 degree cranks do a good job of simulating a V-twin. Performance: I'm more than happy with this, coming from a VFR800 VTEC I was expecting less thrust but actually the power to weight ratio is very similar. Brakes: The back is surprisingly good, I've no issues with the front either, initial bite is great and effective. Dash: I agree some of the options available are useless. I too would like a range option. The dash visibility works well in bright daylight. Seat: I'm find that an issue, its hard compared to my VFR and it slopes forward. Footpegs: They're in the wrong place, I'm constantly whacking my calves and shins on them. Wind: The standard screen works for me and the optional deflectors improved things further. Did I make the right choice. I think so. It's a fun and entertaining bike to ride. Slow speed manuoverabilty is excellent as though it's a tall bike most of the weight is low down. Fuel consumption is excellent, I'm getting similar to you. The only extras I've added since collection is a phone holder for navigation and a TUTORO chain oiler. Did you know there's a rubber strap on the underside of the seat to hold your documents? Have you tried pairing the bike to the Honda Roadsync app, it's very disapointing.
I would like to add that the XL750 could beat the 800DE in all dynamic power tests. After 3500km the engine is more Powerplay, torque is much better than at the beginning. It's the best touring motorcycle I have driven in over 40 years. Well done Honda. Just the missing clearcoat over the sticker disappointed me but that's all what I have to compain. Another surprise was the good off-road performance. It is just not made for seeking the limits.
I would love to know what the point of the grip angle is, anyone?... A 20L tank would have been better, I got used to this on my DL650. The dash, for me, is way better than the one on my 2016 Africa Twin which I could hardly read on a sunny day. My AT suffered from terrible wind turbulence over 50mph. I went higher which made it worse. Then I tried wider by copying Hondas deflectors and cutting them out of thick card, then covering with waterproof gorilla tape. They were positioned about where Honda fitted theirs. Absolute game changer, worked a treat. So, size does matter when it comes to the screen, but wider not higher. Don't have a problem with the screen and deflectors on my "Great White" XL750 at all, probably cos the wind is directed to the sides! I picked mine up yesterday and immediately fitted lower adjustable footpegs which I had on my AT (made by MFW in Germany) and mirror extenders (I have long legs and am 6' 1"), then adjusting all the controls where I want them I was very keen to get out on the road, unfortunately I was too tired by then so decided to go out today. Oh dear, raining and windy today and possibly for quite a while...doh! So, I just go in the garage and sit on it and tinker a bit...sad innit? It is the best bike I have ever had, but my wife says I always say that, give it a few weeks. No dear, it honestly is... 🤔
A bit long winded but... "The 2018 Fireblade is the first inline four-cylinder engine from Honda to use Throttle by Wire (TBW) control. Derived and developed from the system used by the RC213V-S, its job is to put precise throttle control - and a very natural feel - in the rider’s right hand. Heart of the system is a newly developed throttle grip Acceleration Position Sensor (APS) integrated into the right handlebar switchgear, which itself neatly mounts the engine start/stop switch - nothing more. APS converts movement of the grip into an electrical signal sent to the ECU, that then transmits it as an actuator signal to the TBW motor, achieving ideal throttle control relative to grip angle. The return spring and other mechanisms inside the APS faithfully reproduce the initial play and feel of a cable, with throttle load set specifically for the Fireblade."
Watch a video on servicing the air filter on the Transalp! Way too much work. It wouldn't be so bad if this was just a street bike, but it's designed for ~30% offroad.
Some really interesting real life points. Thanks! Unfortunately I've still not been able to get a test drive so this is really valuable. I wish Honda would iron out some of their querks. The left hand switchgear still annoys me on my Forza 750, though the display is excellent and tells me everything I need.. Overall - great review. My only comment on your list is re your thoughts on needing more power. You've bought a mid range 750.. even the Africa twin is way down on power compared to the likes of the R1250GS so I'd put this in the same category as the frame design which you didn't include in your list.
Fair comment. In isolation the Transalp is more than adequate, but every time I jump on the Speed Twin (only 8 more hp, but a shed load more torque) I want the Transalp to have more😬
Have a think about those tyre valves again wrt tubes! I’ve never seen anyone make inner tubes with right angle valves 😅. Not impossible I’m sure but a bit awkward to thread through the rim hole.
Perhaps you need to put a lot more miles on it for the engine to trully losen up the engine because it does have engine braking on all the fixed modes and its a Honda so needs a good 10000 miles at least but I'm no expert. It was slightly jumpy wearing in my cb500x and the didn't have engine break aswell. I've had my Trasalp about 4 weeks
When I heard the negatives I decided not to buy it but then changed my mind after hearing the positives.. keen to know if you ever considered secondhand bmw gs instead?
I actually began my search by looking at the GS, Tiger 1200 and Multistrada, but quickly realised I didn’t need to spend so much to get what I wanted. The Transalp is a Honda, it gets the job done and if I ever break down in Morocco, I know a dealer will be a stone’s throw away. I need that more than telelever suspension or a heated seat😉
A rear rack as standard is good, especially when you see the price they charge on bikes like the Nc750x. QS is a reasonable price and heated grips are only double the price of Oxford hotgrips. Their luggage looks to be a rip off though...
@@RocketMan_Moto with the commonality of the luggage between the transalp, NT1100 and nc750x the price should be much lower. Have a look at the luggage price for a versys 650 /1000, common between the 2, €550 last I looked.
LOL, more power! Sounds like you bought the wrong motorcycle altogether. Why did you even consider a Transalp with your need for 30 more HP?! Otherwise, very much appreciate your detailed and helpful review of your Transalp. This might be my future bike as a used buy, when I outgrow my 2022 CB500X.
As for power complaining, seems that you are not using all of its power - you should adjust to engine power curve, it is driven at higher RPM (7000-9500rpm). It is too fast, 206kg and 92HP - it does 0 - 160kmh in about 7s (1/4 mile, 12.1s) that is faster than many sport cars at 500hp range.
Love your reviews. Had the 500x and was very pleased with it BUT wanted a little more power for touring two up. Dispite nearly an hour test ride its proved not all I hoped. I could get the hard seat re padded but its the slight delay before the engine picks up from letting out the clutch that I'm struggling with (any mode). My dealer has suggested I try the demonstrator bike again next week to see if it is any better. We shall see ....
I am lucky to enjoy this and other great motorcycles and in my view, none of the mentioned are flaws, except the head light, they are just features and "I would like to's". Nothing is perfect.
Not really imprtant bad coments. The most serious is the head lights, I have a HONDA CB 500 X, "very bad lights".. also NOT beautyful. But it s a HONDA!!!!
All of the manufacturers seem to follow a “more CCs, more function, more quality, more cost” formula. I wonder how the market would respond if a manufacturer made a mid-range (cc) bike with all of the trimmings, high quality, albeit higher cost?
I just tested the V-Strom 800 today, the only things I can fault really are the price and some buzziness through the pegs and grips...even more vibration than my Royal Enfield Himalayan! Otherwise though I found you can get to the speed limit effortlessly with the torquey engine, the bike is pretty nimble despite the 21" front wheel, brakes are very sharp, suspension is very composed and plush, seat is comfortable, standing position is good, the bike doesn't feel its 230kg (barely feels heavier than my Himalayan) and the quick shifter is the best I've used by far. Suzuki really seems to have focused on making a bike that's great to ride rather than worrying about the specs sheet, props to them! Also the throttle angle thing is funny, pretty much every modern, fuel injected bike has a throttle position sensor or something similar, I guess Honda asked the question...why not display the current reading on the dash?
Respect for being able to overcome the confirmation bias most of us would fall victim to.
Thanks. I do try to ‘keep it real’. It’s only a motorbike and life is short😊
@@RocketMan_Moto At 12:24 i see a cockpit bar over the instrument panel. Which brand is that?
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Good Video, reflects the real pro's and con's. Will agree on 95% to Rocketman pro & con's. Only the "complain" of the power output I'm not fully agreeing. It is still a 750 ccm bike. and 95% of the owners will be very happy with it. :-). Well done Sir.
Thanks
90 HP on a 750cc bike is amazing. Probably way more power you'd even want as soon as you get off the pavement.
The engine doesn’t sound rough to me, but I’m used to my ‘bag of spanners’ KTM 890 Adv. The Transalp sounds like an elec motor by comparison 😊
Lol, it gets worse at speed
I agree 890 & 901 have a lot engine noise
Sounds very much like a Honda to me.
Here it is. A well made review of the refreshed Honda Transalp.
I think that you’ve been to harsh with the bike on its con’s . For the price this is a marvelous all around bike. A bargain.
The bike looks good. Everything is generally of good quality. The sound it makes from stock is just wonderful, it seems you’re reving a much bigger engine. More torque and more power would be invading the AT realms.
The wind protection from stock is the best on the segment.
The Suzuki 800 DE has a better off-road performance , but that’s it. This Transalp is superior in every other department. In conclusion, I think for the money and in its category, this is an excellent option .👌🏻
I am harsh, yes. It’s an excellent bike for the money, but nobody wants another ‘this is the greatest bike ever’ video😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Aaah ! Ok then 👍🏻😊
I think for me never doing ofroad and i like to have high speed comfort without vibrations, the nc750x is the better option.
Thanks for very honest review, this are rare nowdays.
Thanks. Yes, the NC is much smoother, but also a lot less powerful. If this isn't important to you, then obviously prefer the NC. Annelise, my dealer, has just bought an NC for herself :)
I too was disappointed to find no Range readout and also air Temperature is missing. I have used both a lot when riding 365. In England it is useful to know the temp when it gets very cold. My DL650 had a light that came on below 3 deg centigrade.
The tyre noise that you mentioned often disappears when the tyres have been run-in.
Also I have found that brakes can be far better after an initial period of use.
I usually keep a bike for 2 years or 5000 miles before deciding whether it is a long termer.
I think the lights don't show up enough, I have ridden with the full beam on and nobody has flashed me.
I find the throttle a bit jerky at low revs sometimes too.
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
Thanks RM for another informative real-world analysis of this model, which we are still waiting for here in South Australia. It was "definitely" meant to be here a couple of weeks ago, but then "no stock"! From here it has looked like a poorly organised release of what is shaping up as a popular model. (Perhaps it has been organised by the Honda GP racing team)! In my case it will be doing the mixed-use tasks my old '95 Elefant 750 has been doing for many years, on the multitde of dirt roads in this area, and I expect it will have little difficulty in exceeding that bike in many areas (in spite of the extensive improvements to my old Elefant) but not all. The cluttered situation under the engine of the Honda, and its impact on ground clearance, is my biggest concern, as it looks difficult to resolve, and limits the bike's versatility off the bitumen. Likewise the lack of any frame to mount a bashplate on - an area the Elefant has a much better solution to, for the bashplate, all of which came stadard on that bike. Also I was surprised at the absence of an ambient temperature reading, when so much other less relevant information is displayed. Grip angle? Oh please... The angled valve stems have long been equipment on tubeless wheels, but not (yet?) on tubes. Tubeless not always better than tubed, depending on the degree of damage from a puncture, but that's a long topic on its own. But your candour and 'smooth delivery' of your views are very easy to listen to. Keep them coming. The views of those who have actually purchased the bike more valuable than the views of a 'vlogger' who needs to be loaned bikes, and may be 'careful' about criticising. Thank you. All your insights prepare me for when I finally get to ride the bike they have been telling me was just two weeks away since April...
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for your feedback :)
How about the Yamaha Tenere 700?
Too high in the saddle (I'm 177 cm) and more offroad biased than I really need. Like The Aprilia, which I also test rode, those bikes are undoubtedly better in more 'gnarly' offroad situations than the Honda, but at the expense of road riding and comfort. Particularly the Aprilia's seat, although I did enjoy the 660. I just can't see me doing the hundreds of road miles on those bikes as easily as the Transalp, and the slightly higher seats make them feel a bit nervous about stopping on uneven ground. But thanks for the suggestion.
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@@alanbarnes2920 A VERY late response to this reply, now 16,000 kms 'in' on my Transalp, and really liking it. The T7? A lot dearer here (Australia) and too tall in the saddle. The T7 undoubtedly better-equipped for off-road, but top heavy, less power, less fuel range, etc. I am getting 400 kms from a full tank. The Honda may not be for everyone, but as an 'all around bike' it is really ideal. It became smoother - both vibration and engine sound - after about 5,000 kms, and has honestly got better as I go. I have covered over 3,000 kms on the many dirt roads around here, and farther afield, and it has done fine. It could use some suspension upgrades for rougher terrain, but at the price that is arguably 'affordable'. But for dirt roads (as against tracks) it is fine. I have been surprised at how much I enjoy this very easy-going bike.
If you wanted more power you could’ve considered the africa twin. I think honda doesnt up the power on the transalp to remain a difference between the two otherwise there’d be no reason to get one over the other. Have you looked in to unlocking more power by tuning? Maybe an exhaust air filter and ecu tune could result in 15hp or more?
I’m not a fan of the AT. It’s old, heavy, enormous and expensive. The extra 20hp I want for the Transalp is a ‘dream wish’; I know it’ll never happen😊
Regarding grip angle, as it looks useless now maybe it may help us to guess future features i.e. cruise control.
I picked mine from the dealer yesterday. Coming from CB500X i really enjoy almost twice the horse power and yes, the rear tyre (Dunlop in my case) is getting loud around 110 kph
The Transalp is a great upgrade from the CB500X. Enjoy👍😊
What about commuting with the transalp in comparison with the cb500x?
It has the same size sprockets as the Hornet, a slight lowering of the gearing should liven things up a little.
Popular mod, but I do quite a few miles on the motorway too, so I don't want to make things too buzzy :)
user reviews like this are gold
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Very informative video, especially the engine heat which is not often talked about but very intrusive at the wrong time of year. It sounds like a pretty good bike for me however, unlike yourself, I'm struggling with the bland looks, perhaps I need to see one in real life...
It’s an SUV: not very exciting, but it does everything you ask of it
12:30 they don't vibrate, but they fold. :))
It happened to me on the highway: my right mirror has decided to fold in :))
I thought the left & right-hand threads most manufacturers use for their mirrors were specifically to avoid this?
@@RocketMan_Moto yeah, it could be that they weren't tightened accordingly.
As my AT has same tires - having same noise problem @ same speed (roughly at 95 it starts to 125 km/h when it ends - most annoying is 100 to 110 km/h). I am confident it is due to 21" rim in front(size matters :D). Done 2k now - still there :(
That’s too bad. Odd that Metzeler would make a noisy tyre, and even more odd that Honda would choose it🤔
@@RocketMan_Moto Honda just slaps on what they can get cheapest from suppliers. My AT came with Bridgestones A41 which are even worse than Metzelers, the front is wobbly in curves, and they are already done after 4000km. I never knew a road tyre can melt this fast on the front, but those grooves weren't that deep when new in the 1st place. I think this is the case with most factory mounted tyres.
That’s very poor
I was very impressed with the manoeuvrability of this bike when tested it , in comparison with my v Strom 1000 XT 2018 , it felt like a moped 😅only concern if trade it , I will miss that Torque of the big V-Twin (10 kg vs 7,5 on the transalp ). That feeling of brutal pull that leaves your heart behind as you clarified similar to the Speed Twin , is very addictive and hard to get rid of (I have Akrapovic and DNA filter on it )… but nearly same performance(10hp difference although PWR is better on Transalp) , less consumption and newer technologies on the Honda … idk 🤷🏻♂️
Any suggestions RM? ❤
The new BMW 1300GS could be the perfect bike, but with a few options it’s going to be nearly 3x the price of the Transalp, which is just silly🙄
@@RocketMan_Moto totally out of my budget ! In Greece it probably will have 4 times the Transalp’s price .. what do you say ? Is it wise to sell the V Strom 1000 for the transalp or it is considered serious downgrade ? 😛
Not a downgrade, but I don’t really see what you’ll be gaining. The V Strom 1000 is a great bike, just a bit ‘old’ maybe…
@UCujJWNWufDSjqH-_I4Nck6gif you ever drop the beemer hope yr Hercules to pick it up
Excellent review. I'll likey replace my Zephyr 1100 with the TransAlp
Thanks. Good choice😊
A really interesting and informative video, you do wonder how they passed up a miles remaining fuel gauge and an ambient temperature gauge and instead added a throttle angle gauge is beyond me. But it looks a great bike overall.
Agreed😊
It would be interesting to know why they have done this as most bikes nowadays have them. I will try to remember to ask my dealer or find a way to talk to Honda with feedback.
It’s all just marketing. They could easily give us fuel range (or cruise control), but then nobody would want the Africa Twin. A few weeks ago, we were looking at buying a VW Polo, until we discovered that you can’t spec it with a sunroof. You need to move up to the Golf for that🤦♂️
I suspect the low price is the reason such things weren't included. Fuel remaining and ambient temperature would have required extra sensors, whereas the useless grip angle was already available from the throttle position sensor, and presumably filled a gap on the TFT. They clearly decided to keep the Transalp 1. cheap, and 2. light, which affected all those decisions. They may have left themselves some features for later models - cruise etc. - but yes, many of these decisions were about keeping the Transalp well short of the Africa Twin specs. And price.
Obviously Honda CAN offer these other features, but chose not to. All symptoms of being 'built down to a price'. I think we just have to accept these shortcomings at the relatively cheap ride-away price, or spend more on a European bike.
The Tuareg is a great bike, if a little too off-road orientated for my use, but is over $22k here, while the Transalp is $15,760 on the road in Australia. The Suzuki 800DE is over $18k, so the Honda leaves a bit to spend on a sump guard etc. of our choice. Not necessarily the Honda option...
You weren't wrong about the tire noise around the 100-120kph point. I've just done the first 200km ony new bike and the whine from the Karoo's is horrendous. I hope they quieten down like yours have.
Fingers crossed🤞👍
Hi, seems like a very good bike for the price and as you say, very pretty for an adventure bike. My question..... Can you get 90 degree valves on tubed tyres? They would be a pig to fit
Yes, great value. You’re right about the valves/tubeless, I just think it’s a shame nobody’s invented a ‘bendy straw’ valve😊
can you do a more detailed review on the windshield, and fairing deflectors? you are the first i see with them, are they worth it if its not free swag?
Not really worth doing an entire video on them. Yes, they do help with both the standard and tall screen. Definitely worth the outlay, imo, but you’ll never turn the Transalp into a Goldwing😊
Makes other Adv bikes look like tanks, but surprisingly higher seat than my Transalp 600 on the dealer bike I tried.
Yes, very nimble. How high is the 600 seat?
Great review - thanks. My NC750X has the same '6 bricks' fuel gauge problem as, for that matter, did my FJ09. I think that's the source of the missing range display. If it can't measure accurately how much fuel is left, it can't very well measure range.
I get that, but I would have thought modern software would be able to allow for all that? Thanks for watching and leaving feedback👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Motivated by your discussion, I got out the manual for my 2022 Honda NC750X and discovered that there is a "Subtraction Tripmeter" that you can preset to a specified range and it then counts down from that range as you ride. My tank holds 3.8 US gallons and my average milage over two years is about 66 mpg with the worst recorded milage about 60 mpg. I will thus set my subtraction trip meter to 3.8*60 = 228 miles and thus have a pretty good approximation of the range I have left. Not perfect but better than I thought possible before. Maybe your TransAlp has a "Subtraction Tripmeter" as well.
Rocketman and etm..
Thanks for the honest review and comments. I'm considering a mid weight adv. I have a vfr1200x dct. The Transalp, DE800, and NC750x and even KLR 650 are all options in play. The review made me appreciate my vfr even more.
My mid weight choice is still up for grabs.
Had my transalp 2 weeks now and agree with your comments and observations. My biggest gripe is the handlebar vibrations even with grip puppies fitted and the rough sounding engine. Also think it needs more power as would rather have more in reserve rather than just enough but they won't give it more power because of the Africa Twin? Also for me the footpegs are in the wrong place and I seem to catch them when coming to a halt, but it is early days yet. I am going to order the accessory bar mount you have fitted to mount my satnav to as that looks like a good solution rather than to the handlebars.
Yes, the accessory bar is good (and cheap). Pity about the vibrations. Thanks for your feedback👍😊
I am thinking of the same bar, thanks RM for the link. The Givi one looks very similar to the AliExpress one...hmm!
@@RocketMan_Moto Does the Accessory Bar vibrate? I cannot see it in this video though!
No vibrations on mine. I added a few rubber washers to be sure
There is only one 750 -ish p-twin with similar power density, and that is the KTM. It will loosen up, if my experience with Honda is any indication, and this is an engine designed to rev. Check your wrist angle meter. Honda didn't stint - give it the beans.
Thanks another great review, as I’m in the market for an adventure bike , as I would like to explore many dirt roads. Hence a question, is it adequate on a dirt road?
I'm very happy with it as a road bike and have tried it off road a bit. It'll do the job, but I'd probably look to the Tuareg or Tenere if my main aim was dirt riding
I got half way through this and thought: He is not going to keep that bike! The acid test is if you have a bike for 6 months and haven't changed anything, you probably never will. So is it a keeper or will you check out the Suzuki?
Lol, you could be right🤔😂
I thought the same thing!
1300GS?😬
@@RocketMan_Moto 1300gs! Please don't join the pack. Have you reviewed the Tiger Sport yet? I suppose that would need an additional 40BHP as well 😊. Why do we eternally seek the perfect bike?
I always get used to the power and then immediately want more. My dream bike is a slightly bigger Speed Twin with about 150hp… but I’m sure if I ever got one, I’d be craving for 180hp after a month🙄😂
I must say that it is surprising to hear someone complain over 90hp on a 200ish kg bike. I have the older 650 version of the transalp wich is considerably slower with its 55hp/55nm and i never felt like ive been out of power. Then again i have opposite opinion to you, i belive that if you dont let her go wide open and atleast close to the redline atleast once or twice on a ride you simple have to much power!
I like your content and this bike seems nice but im gonna hold back for a year or two and then see if i can score a used specimen or a cb500x with some goodies already installed.
Edit: spelling and grammar.
Thanks for your feedback
You say 120-130hp is ideal, but your Speed Twin barely has 90, same as Transalp. Why do you use full throttle on your mid weigh ADV but not your Speed Twin?
Torque
"But no bike is perfect, so" ... I expected this to be followed by "I sold it" 😆
Lol, not yet😂
Sounds for me.. you should ride a Afrika Twin 😊
Too heavy, too big, too expensive... and there's a new model coming next year
I know you didn't care for the dash not indicating fuel range but is the actual fuel range itself pretty good?
Yes, 4.3 l/100km with an 18l tank is going to give you around 400km
I didn't know they can change what's on the screen with software updates. How do they do that?
I assume the dealer will be able to do it??
Love that engine noise personally.
It’s fine when cold
Sounds like a 1250 GS would be your ideal bike haha
The new one's going to be 3x the price of the Transalp, though :(
Stopped buying Honda since the indicator/horn switch. Why, just why Honda?
It is annoying. Especially when you have 2 Hondas and one Triumph in the garage😐
Good comments imo, except I disagree on horsepower. It seems to me if you “need” 120 HP, then maybe you just need a bigger engine and a different motorcycle. The 750 and 500 twin ride is not a big HP event, but is one that many do find more fun and satisfying than mothering the throttle of a 120+ HP heavy weight adventure bike. But torque…. I agree. Should be increased as possible in the design phase, made available low and even sacrifice a few HP to get there using the inevitable trade-offs. Honda is usually good at this, sort of surprised this one has a weak bottom end torque. In my own experience at least, 750 class (non-supersport versions) bikes can be solid, very long lasting, and rewarding long road partners. But I really don’t much enjoy a weak torque low end if thats what is going on here.
Thanks for your feedback. The 120hp is really just wishful thinking. Like I wish my Speed Twin had 160hp😬
My Ducati does have 160 BHP, and massive torque for its light weight (extensively lightened) but I don't need that much grunt on my 'dirt road bike'. Yes, the low-rev torque is delivered 'gently', but there's enough of it. And plenty of power as you rev it. The gentle low-end power is actually a good thing on loose surfaces. But mine has never stalled, in 5,000 kms, and it has never lacked power when I have needed it. The low-rev delivery is actually a bit deceptive.
Hey mate do you have a link to the GPS bar you fitted? Cheers Cal
See description😉
The tire valve thing is 100% correct, straight valves are annoying! Even my street triple from 2008 has the 90° ones
Edit: The fuel gage is unacceptable, I agree.
I suppose it’s an inner tube thing🤷♂️
Tubes have straight valves. Can only get around that if they had straight valves on a tubeless rim.
Yes, although I’m sure some bright spark could invent some 90 valves that you could get through the hole in the rim🤷♂️
@@RocketMan_Moto ah but then you can’t get the stem retaining nut on.
Dear Mr. Rocketman, can you tell me what is the vertical distance (in cm) from seat to foot peg.
Thanks !
Just measured it for you: from the top of the peg to the lowest part of the seat, it’s about 55-56cm👍
Thank you !!
...so that is roughly 5-6 cm more than on CB500X...
You should have bought the Honda AT as it has enough torque and hp for what you were looking for.
Too big, too expensive and the same power to weight ratio as the Transalp
Is there a air temprature indicator ?
No, another minor irritation :(
Po połączeniu telefonu z "Honda RoadSync", jest wyświetlana temperatura na liczniku.
Taste is subjective but speed triples are ugly and outdated in my eyes all Triumphs for that matter.. Transalp looks far better.hopefully they get rid of CB headlight sometime soon.
Thanks for your feedback
the inverted horn & indicators have been a thing on Hondas for quite awhile. the idea is that the indicators are easier to reach from a resting position. I quite like it tbh
Thanks for your feedback :)
I hate it, I was always honking at people until I stopped using the horn altogether , now i'm muscle memory hornless .If I only had just the Honda I could have got used to it.
I must admit I initially didnt like them on my PCX I accidentally hit the horn a few times as I was used to the switchgear on my suzuki but I did a bit of thumb retraining and its fine now.
Coming from a Varadero MK2 to the new XL750V, I almost agree at all with you at the pros and the cons of this bike . About the missing of the range gauge, i would like to have it as well. But there is a very useful gauge of the fuel that consumed. Setting the Trip A auto reset, i can have a clear view of the remaining fuel in my tank. And believe me i prefer to know that there are 5.2 liters for example than to see a 145 km of range. Of course i would prefer both of them. Riding in Greece with ambient temperature at 43 Celsius, i must admit that this bike has an excellent heat dissipation from the engine and radiator. I am 1.75 tall and i believe that the optional higher windscreen is useful since i feel a lot of wind pressure after 130 km/h. I wish safe and enjoy riding.
Thanks for your feedback. You're right: there is an option of displaying how many litres of fuel you have remaining. Re. wind protection, it's a bit of a dark art, as I said in the video, and I think everyone has to experiment to find the best solution for them. Ride safe :)
Always admire your honesty in pointing out negatives it's refreshing. I must defend the brakes though (not that you were too concerned), with a relatively small contact patch due to thin front wheel on less than super grippy tyres, if you can activate the abs with standard set up then anymore would simply overwhelm the tyres. On abs shod bikes, it's the tyres (friction patch) which dictates braking power not disc size or calipers. Thanks again for early review, and allowing me to indulge.
Thanks😊
Interesting theory but the KTM 1290 ADV-R has the same size front wheel as the Transalp and comes with seriously good radial Brembos… They don’t overwhelm the tire.
@@timothydubber549 Well they won't overwhelm the tyre, because the abs will kick in, but that's my point, if the standard system can activate the abs, then it's powerful enough. However the ktm is a bit more serious than transalp, so probably warrants classier gear. 👍
The Tuareg has VERY strong Brembos up front, fairly grippy pads, the same 90/90-21 front, and less power than the Transalp. I have not found that to be an issue on or off road. Honda often does this for bikes they expect newer riders to flock to and I almost immediately end up replacing the pads with something that has a bit more metal.
Excellent bike review. Very well done. Very useful information for all of us who do not get test rides and whom are pondering moving up to a 750cc. Design team bloke who presented the grip angle option ➡️🤤🤜📐. What were they thinking there?!
I know, madness🤦♂️ Thanks for your feedback, glad you found it of use
My wife has a Hornet, and it has a grip ankle rubbish too. What waste of time
I guess it's a ride-by-wire throttle, so the "grip angle" is already being measured and no other sensor is required to display this info (pointless though it may be) on the dash. It's a cheaper option therefore than adding a more accurate fuel gauge, for example.
You grip your wife's ankles?@@flexywing
@@patkennedy1 It stops her from running away! 😅
The grip angle is a top idea! It gives you a precise angle to how far the cup holder is away from the hand. Genuinely genius.
Hadn’t thought of that!😀
@@RocketMan_Moto once again top video. Really enjoy the channel, nice delivery and content.
Just looking at Faro for a week in later September, just hope the wether is better than it is here!
Lol !!!
At the moment it’s too hot 🥵
Grip Angle. A constant reminder that you do not deserve cruise control.
Exactly
That's done it, I'll keep my CB 500X 😂
Good bike👍
Me to...😊
I'll keep my AT and XT 🤣😅
The CB500X was one of my options to buy, a very nice motorcycle, but in the end I decided on the DR-650, it is a motorcycle that I wanted to have despite its old look.
@@democracyornothing haha I still use old xt 600 for adventure touring . Single is better for trails IMHO 👍
Tubeless and a 20 litre tank would make it perfect.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Don’t forget 30 more hp😬
@@RocketMan_Moto I don't know about that
It's the perfect amount as it's also good for an A2 rider like me
It's fast enough to go 150 and plenty more to over take without a problem
Cruising in high speed is good at 180
180 is a stretch. I like to have more power in reserve, even if I don’t use it😉
You can buy right angle adaptors for your valve stems and just reset your trip meter when your fill the fuel tank. That's what riders have done for decades and still useful. It appears that Honda have cut some corners to keep the price down. In reality most people considering a Transalp either cannot afford an Africa Twin or want such a big, heavy bike and will buy another brand that is close in specification or price. I was keen on try a Transalp but without tubeless tyres, cruise control I immediately lost interest. When you factor in the need to spend significant money on handguards, bash plate, crash bars, centre stand, heated grips then the price (remarkably cheap) is not the incredible value you first thought. No doubt Honda will sell plenty of them but it is not the dirt weapon we were hoping for.
Thanks for your feedback. I think straight valves are an inner tube thing :(
Great review, thanks. Just completed 700 miles on mine in the considerably colder north of England. Agree how light it feels and it’s certainly quick. I’m also getting 66mpg. 👍
Good to hear. The Transalp is a great all-round bike. My negatives were nit-picks really😊
Nice summary RocketMan, thanks! I took a demo bike out for a 2 hour test ride two days ago on a real mixture of rural and urban roads, wet and dry, and even a farm track. Handling was superb in all conditions, but it was vital to turn off the traction control for gravel and off road. Unfortunately it appears this must be reset in USER mode every time the ignition is turned off. That is my only gripe, so I bought one. I loved how light it felt and how easy it was to push around when off the bike. Like you, I am happy to add my own accessories to suit my personal tastes. I know it is subjective, but I think the new Transalp is by far the best looking adventure style bike out there. All the others, and especially the Suzuki 800, are just plain butt ugly!
I agree completely. The Suzuki is way too ugly to sit next to my Speed Twin in the garage :)
Hear the Suzi s really plush off road
I’m sure it is, but I was looking primarily for a road bike that could do a teeny bit of gravel when I fancied some
@@mikerichardson415 Well said.
Great video/review @RocketMan, I am finding the bike to be a great all round package, Having the fuel say how many k's you have left should be standard for a modern bike, Grip angle didn't even know that was a thing, There are plenty good thing's compared to my 2022 cb500x and the power i find pleasing. Jimmy Hutchison a pommy livin in Australia
Thanks, Jimmy. As you may recall, I owned a CB500X a couple of years ago and liked it. The Transalp is a decent upgrade from that, however, and I think it's worth the extra cash. Thanks for your feedback :)
I’ve had mine for a few weeks now based in Berlin in Germany.
I disagree with some of the pros and cons from Rocketman.
I think the seat is hard and somewhat unforgiving after a couple of hours. Fuel range is not a problem. I’ve never had a bike that had a fuel gauge that I could 100% rely on. Needless to say, when it gets to the bottom bar - fill up! It says in the manual that the light will come on when there’s about 3.5 litres left, which should give you about 60 to 70km to find a pump. I’m 1.70m tall and I can ride with my visor fully up with no real wind at any speed. I did. get the taller screen but no deflectors (which look cheap and nasty). 90hp is fine and expected from a 750. If rocketman wants 39hp more, then he should have spent twice as much and bought the Africa Twin - simple!
The light is pathetic at night. I’m not sure what to do about that yet as tapping into the light system with a couple of searchlights will melt the cables.
For me, the biggest tick in the box that rocketman didn’t mention is value for money.
Thanks for your feedback. I agree about the value for money :)
I’ve got the taller screen and the dealer gave me the stock screen. Have you ridden with both or just the taller? I’m wondering whether to swap given the positive comments about the stock screen. I’m happy with the tall one but you know those niggling “I wonder” thoughts….
I haven’t tried the tall screen, I only have the short one. I’ve read a few comments in user groups saying that they’ve put the short screen back on because the tall one generates turbulence🤷♂️
More 30 hp why didn't you bought the africa twin?
Because the AT is too expensive, too big and feels sluggish in comparison
Love the WHITE with Blue seat and Gold wheels - in the US only 1 color matte is available why no idea?
You also get 10hp less and a single-barrel exhaust. Honda must really hate you ;)
You mentioned 130hp is perfect but you also mentioned your speed twin you hardly ever use full throttle and it's only 98hp which is only 8hp more than the Honda 🤔
Indeed, but it’s so torquey that it feels way more than 100hp😊
These are no negatives, next time buy an Africa twin and you get what you want. what do you expect ....? you get what you pay for. for that price it`s f... cheap and still a HONDA
Not a fan of the AT
@@RocketMan_Moto try the V-Strom 800 much better in my opinion.
Too ugly
I sat on the 800DE and found it top heavy and the foot pegs are in the way when stoped.
Now on to your excellent summery of your trans alpe. As always you list pros and cons.
Just what we need, quality objective and comparative.
Thanks for your insight.
Interesting about the 800DE being top heavy, I'll have to look out for that. Thanks for your feedback :)
Isn't the valve point directly dependable on the fact that you have tubes inside? Didn't know there's such a thing as 90° valve on a tube?
Exactly, currently there are no tubes available (at least in Europe) with 90° valves.
For me one reason to never ride tyres with tubes again.
Yes, I suppose it’s getting the bent valve through the hole in the rim? Wouldn’t have thought that was an insurmountable problem though?🤔
@@RocketMan_Moto Well I was just guessing, I had to google it to see it actually does exist. Thing with that is, it's not a common solution, which means it adds to the cost, since it's not standard Honda catalogue, with extra assembly time. Most of the things you mention as negative in the video are because of cost reduction, since they already have the AT in 15k € range, this bike had to go down a class to around 12k max and all that was the only way to do it.
Our kid’s pushchair has tubes with angled valves, so it can’t be that hard….they’re not 90, but bent enough to be better than straight ones!
@@jwilson1744 I suppose your kid's pushchair doesn't go at speeds of 150 kph and beyond. So the kinetic forces occurring are significantly different.
The power is perfect. The suzuki feels more poweful because the gears interval is smaller, but that means that the honda at 120km/h is at 4400 rpm and the suzuki is at 5500rpm, so fuel economy on honda is unmatched. If you want more power and better brakes….buy a more expensive bike, because at the price range this honda is again….unmatched. No fuel range on the gauge????? When it gets to reserve the bike starts couting the amount of fuel you spend cl by cl and the amout of kms you have done since, much better then the fuel range on other bikes that is constantly changing up and down. I have had 24 motorcycles during my life from R1 to CBR, Tracer 9, MT07, MT09, Vstrom etc and i can tell that this is the best allaround bike i owned. Sorry about the spelling….i am portuguese.
I agree it’s a great bike for the money. Many of my comments are really ‘impossible wishes’😊 Obrigado pelo seu feedback😉
I think 30bhp extra is optimistic. I think most riders who's first adventure bike will be the transalp or thereabouts is about right. It a punchy engine to keep it interesting and usable enough. But 30 extra would put it in Africa twin territory. So I think the platform performs above average compared to completion (minus some interesting design)
30hp was a dream wish; I know they'll never give us that much, at least for the money
@@RocketMan_Moto I'm in agreement with Nuggetmaate. Sounds like you want the power and torque of a 1250GS, but the weight and size of a 310GS. That's wishful thinking rather than classifying it as a negative😁
Yes, wishful thinking. One can always dream :)
Great comments! I don't believe you can get any kind of motorcycle tire tube with a right angle valve on it, just the nature of tubed tires.
You’re right👍
Kind of strange to complain about power. You knew before you bought the bike that it has 92HP and not 130HP. If it would be advertised with 92HP and then only had 75HP, I would agree with the complaint. You may be better served with a Multistrada or a KTM 1090 .
The MS gets too hot and there are no KTM dealers near me🙁
grip angle = most useless feature imho LOL!!
And rubs salt into the wound re. absence of fuel range :(
I,m a mature rider with quite a few bikes under my belt and have never owned a bike with modes, cruise control, backlit switches, cruise control, quick shifter and to be honest I’ve never even thought about that sort of stuff. I,m really good at changing gear. What bugs me is not having a centre stand as standard - does this bike come with one? All the other stuff just seems like fluff to me, but then it would be a dull world if we were all the same. Glad you enjoy the bike overall. Cheers.
Thanks for your feedback. No centre stand, but it is available as an option.
I'm with you on all those 'extras' - I never had them before either, and would actually be happier if the Transalp (I'm hoping to be able to pick mine up soon) had none of the 'stuff' you mention. I'm good at chnging gear too...
The centrestand is an optional extra, available either from Honda or SWM Motech, like the bashplate. At least we get the choice of brand of add-ons. Yes, they come on the Suzuki - bashplate and handguards - but if you wanted metal ones you only have to duplicae the parts it comes with. So these parts being optional makes sense in that respect. If your use doesn't require those parts, you don't have to pay for them on the bike.
I really like the toggle switch on the Hornet when I had a test ride, and ordered it , still waiting,-and the switches, to me, seemed to be good quality. The air valves on the rims is an appalling cost cutting exercise. I've had my CB650R for years now. I find the horn/indicator thing totally fine. I used to annoy other people with accidental bleeps far more on my various Yams. But, I yam (sic) absurdly biased, I've never bought a European, or (good grief) an American bike. I, of course, adore my homeland, Perfidious Albion, but know where the value lies. Or, I've always bought Japanese bike and never, ever, felt the need to change. Safe riding; I hope it's not too hot in the Algarve.
Hot, but not crazy hot like they’re seeing in Spain and Italy. Thanks for your feedback😊👍
Thanks, I was starting to think I was the only one who thought the brakes and engine just a little lacking. Don't get me wrong the bikes been fine, I am however just a little underwhelmed by it. This will have a lot to do with me buying this bike for what I actually need rather than previously always buying something that goes like a scalded cat. The weight of the bike is just right for me as I get older and nurse the ever growing list of aches and pains.
I think underwhelming is the word. I'm not disappointed, as it's exactly as I thought it would be, but I'm glad I've got the Speed Twin in the garage, as well..
RocketMan ... you should pursue a career as a voice actor ... great voice for this sort of stuff!
As for the bike ... can't wait to pick up my new black TA next week.
Your videos are great and greatly appreciated ... I think your gripes are perhaps a little on the so-what-side-of-things ... a rack bolt that hasn't been countersunk? Really! That makes the top 10 list? Must be a great bike for sure. Are you an engineer, perhaps? :-)
Anyway - good review. Thanks.
...oh and by the way, only an Englishman would call Gibralta a geopolitical oddity .... :-P
The rack holes comments were really meant to contrast with and highlight the otherwise exemplary finish😊
RM has a great voice, the Richard Burton of Moto reviews 😅
Lol, thanks🥰
I had a good look at this bike the other day and it definitely is more of a "bigger cb500x" than "smaller africa twin" which I really like
I agree. The AT is too big and too expensive. The 500X is great, but lacks power. Transalp, step this way👍😊
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I think it's the bike I need, but when the dealer let me have it to test it, I heard that annoying noise at exactly that speed, and that's what stopped me from purchasing. I entered the video looking for precisely this topic, and I'm surprised that no one else mentions it (at least I haven't found it no matter how hard I searched).
Thank you very much for sharing your experience; I may talk to the store again.
Translated with Google, sorry if there are errors.
You’re welcome. To be fair, the buzzing tyre problem disappeared at about 1000km, but it’s still strange that Honda allowed this🤔
Great video as usual mate. Now I do not want to come across negatively. As I change my bikes as often as you do. And the Transalp has sparked my interest. However, after watching many of your recent videos I feel like the ultimate bike for you would be a KTM 1090. The non R model. It looks like you mainly ride road and possibly a bit of smooth gravel. With 125hp, a 19" front wheel. Admittedly the buttons on the handlebars are typical KTM and seem a little cheap. However they work, the placement is great. The whole bike just works. Has a great sound. I would say a good spread of power and torque. And if you fit a 90/10 tyre like a 'Tourance Next' they perform really well on road and smooth gravel roads. And if you are worried about reliability a friend of mine has a 1290 SAR. He has done 250,000 kms on the original engine. The engine has failed now. However, in that time it only ever had basic servicing carried out. It never had the heads off or anything major.
I'm between 5'8" and 5'9" and I seem to manage the 1090 no worries. Its alot more manageable than my old 1190R. That was a tall bike.
Anyway mate, just a bit of food for thought. I'm sure you will get a lot of enjoyment out of the Transalp the more you ride it. Cheers
You’re probably right, but my adventure bike is very much a second/third bike. The Speed Twin provides the thrills, the Transalp is really just transport😊
@RocketMan_Moto that's fair enough. I'm sure the Honda will be more accessible with its relatively lightweight. Happy riding ✌️
Thanks. You too😊
I had such a nice time cycling the Algarve in Jan. Lagos wasn't my thing, but that got me out and exploring on a rented bicycle. But the coastal roads made for brutal pedaling, and I'd have loved a motorcycle to change things up. I see I passed within a block of Honda in Portimao. Had I known I'd have stopped in for a look around. TA looks interesting and I want to throw a leg over one when it finally gets to the US, since I'm 6'3" and I'm folded a bit tightly on the now-lower-than-before NC750x. But I carry groceries more than I ride gravel, and TA is still not here, so NC750x it is. You'd hate that bike's 58hp, but I have to say, as a returning geezer rider who's pretty sedate, the smooth engine and DCT shifting make it a pleasure to ride. I'm ruined now. I don't miss a clutch lever one bit. I get about 75mpg on that thing as well. Your engine noise vid did sound a bit like my snowblower. If you see someone on a bicycle waving frantically as you pass by on the TA, next January, that'll be me.
Yes, the NC is a valiant machine and I love the frunk, but it’s become too small for me and it’s not powerful enough to take on the motorway traffic here. Not a huge fan of Lagos, either😉
I’ve just changed the other way from a NC750x dct to the TransAlp. DCT is great when you’re on the move but I found the NC very heavy the older I got
I'm surprised you can feel the 50 pound difference (riding anyway). The canted-forward engine and low tank seem to make that NC feel much lighter than its 500 pounds to me, except when picking it up or pushing it around with my feet on gravel.
@@SethJayson yes it’s the “except” that you mention
Sounds like you had better bought an African Twin; better breaks, horse power, buttons, seat etc…..
A lot more expensive though
Thanks RM, fuel range is a luxury you need when the bike is new to you??? Driving a 1989 transalp no such luxury, but you quickly learn your average mileage, knowing that I can go 250-300 km before reserve and 50-75 on reserve, I dont see the problem, is a budget bike!!! I have been tempted, but then decided I didnt wanna pay for TFT and gadgets, so mine stays!
I get what you’re saying, but I have range on my €6000 scooter. It’s just a software thing…
When you'll test drive the 800DE you'll feel real lucky to own the Transalp 750 from the point of foot vibrations around 5K-6K rpm and the amount of heat comes from tthe engine when in traffic or slow speeds in Mediterranean summer days.
Thanks for this great review, waiting for my Transalp 750 in the first days in September.
PS: I hadn't test the quick shifter when I test drove the Transalp but from your testimony I guess it might be smoother compared the 800DE.
Interesting, thanks for your feedback on the Suzuki. Yes, the quick shifter is really very good on the Transalp.
Good things about it:
1. It's a Honda
2. It's a Honda
3. It's a Honda
Greetings,
Agreed. And that’s why I bought it.
Another excellent video. Regarding the niggles: A cap cover kit will hide those allen style bolts on the handlebar clamp (Amazon), but it’s annoying to have them blemish so quickly. I routinely use a magnetic tank bag and think the fuel tank is plastic. That would annoy the heck out of me. Regarding the display: I’ve owned two Suzuki Burgmans and The largest numbers displayed are for average fuel mileage or ambient temperature (toggle between them). The 750 Transalp sounds like an excellent choice. I’m happy for the 270 crank engine. The 270 crank engines just sound “right “ to me.
Thanks for that, Jeffrey😊
My Indian FTR and Guzzi Mandello both have fuel range. Both are meaningless as it keeps varying with how you ride and the roads I'm on. The reality is that I get around 120 miles before reserve on the FTR and around 140 miles on the Mandello, so a simple countdown is all that I need or want.
On the subject of Honda, as a motorcycle trainer, I'm often asked about what would be a good first bike. Whenever the subject of Honda crops up, I tell them that it's the Ronseal of motorcycling. It does what it says on the tin, reliably, efficiently and without fuss. I've had a couple over the years and had no regrets.
Exactly
Its interesting to hear another owners opinion, so thanks for that. I've had mine a month now and covered about 500 miles. Some points of my own. Tyre noise: I can't say I've noticed this but then I rarely do long high speed trips. Fuel baffle: I agree its annoying. I've had similar devices on my SV650's and someone pointed out that it was to stop you filling the tank completely. The reason for this is to leave an air pocket so that in the event of an accident where the tank gets crushed it stops itf rom bursting. Rough engine: The engine is certainly not as smooth as my SV650 and feels a little agricultural at low revs. I'm not convinced that these 270 degree cranks do a good job of simulating a V-twin. Performance: I'm more than happy with this, coming from a VFR800 VTEC I was expecting less thrust but actually the power to weight ratio is very similar. Brakes: The back is surprisingly good, I've no issues with the front either, initial bite is great and effective. Dash: I agree some of the options available are useless. I too would like a range option. The dash visibility works well in bright daylight. Seat: I'm find that an issue, its hard compared to my VFR and it slopes forward. Footpegs: They're in the wrong place, I'm constantly whacking my calves and shins on them. Wind: The standard screen works for me and the optional deflectors improved things further.
Did I make the right choice. I think so. It's a fun and entertaining bike to ride. Slow speed manuoverabilty is excellent as though it's a tall bike most of the weight is low down. Fuel consumption is excellent, I'm getting similar to you. The only extras I've added since collection is a phone holder for navigation and a TUTORO chain oiler.
Did you know there's a rubber strap on the underside of the seat to hold your documents? Have you tried pairing the bike to the Honda Roadsync app, it's very disapointing.
Thanks for your feedback. Haven’t tried Roadsync, don’t think I ever will. Re. tank space, I just fill it up to the top anyway😊
I would like to add that the XL750 could beat the 800DE in all dynamic power tests. After 3500km the engine is more Powerplay, torque is much better than at the beginning. It's the best touring motorcycle I have driven in over 40 years. Well done Honda. Just the missing clearcoat over the sticker disappointed me but that's all what I have to compain. Another surprise was the good off-road performance. It is just not made for seeking the limits.
Agreed
Hello I had a look at all your Transalp videos and did not find the name of the GPS support you adapted. Can you give me the name of the spp,yer ? V
I bought it on AliExpress. If the link is no longer valid, try a search.
I would love to know what the point of the grip angle is, anyone?...
A 20L tank would have been better, I got used to this on my DL650.
The dash, for me, is way better than the one on my 2016 Africa Twin which I could hardly read on a sunny day.
My AT suffered from terrible wind turbulence over 50mph. I went higher which made it worse.
Then I tried wider by copying Hondas deflectors and cutting them out of thick card, then covering with waterproof gorilla tape.
They were positioned about where Honda fitted theirs. Absolute game changer, worked a treat.
So, size does matter when it comes to the screen, but wider not higher.
Don't have a problem with the screen and deflectors on my "Great White" XL750 at all, probably cos the wind is directed to the sides!
I picked mine up yesterday and immediately fitted lower adjustable footpegs which I had on my AT (made by MFW in Germany) and mirror extenders (I have long legs and am 6' 1"), then adjusting all the controls where I want them I was very keen to get out on the road, unfortunately I was too tired by then so decided to go out today.
Oh dear, raining and windy today and possibly for quite a while...doh!
So, I just go in the garage and sit on it and tinker a bit...sad innit?
It is the best bike I have ever had, but my wife says I always say that, give it a few weeks. No dear, it honestly is... 🤔
Grip angle is possibly the silliest thing I've ever seen on a motorcycle!
@@RocketMan_Moto Yep
A bit long winded but...
"The 2018 Fireblade is the first inline four-cylinder engine from Honda to use Throttle by Wire (TBW) control. Derived and developed from the system used by the RC213V-S, its job is to put precise throttle control - and a very natural feel - in the rider’s right hand. Heart of the system is a newly developed throttle grip Acceleration Position Sensor (APS) integrated into the right handlebar switchgear, which itself neatly mounts the engine start/stop switch - nothing more. APS converts movement of the grip into an electrical signal sent to the ECU, that then transmits it as an actuator signal to the TBW motor, achieving ideal throttle control relative to grip angle. The return spring and other mechanisms inside the APS faithfully reproduce the initial play and feel of a cable, with throttle load set specifically for the Fireblade."
Watch a video on servicing the air filter on the Transalp! Way too much work. It wouldn't be so bad if this was just a street bike, but it's designed for ~30% offroad.
I agree it’s a pain
Some really interesting real life points. Thanks! Unfortunately I've still not been able to get a test drive so this is really valuable. I wish Honda would iron out some of their querks. The left hand switchgear still annoys me on my Forza 750, though the display is excellent and tells me everything I need..
Overall - great review. My only comment on your list is re your thoughts on needing more power. You've bought a mid range 750.. even the Africa twin is way down on power compared to the likes of the R1250GS so I'd put this in the same category as the frame design which you didn't include in your list.
Fair comment. In isolation the Transalp is more than adequate, but every time I jump on the Speed Twin (only 8 more hp, but a shed load more torque) I want the Transalp to have more😬
Have a think about those tyre valves again wrt tubes! I’ve never seen anyone make inner tubes with right angle valves 😅. Not impossible I’m sure but a bit awkward to thread through the rim hole.
Yes, I know that’s the reason, but I would have thought someone could have come up with a solution🤦♂️
Perhaps you need to put a lot more miles on it for the engine to trully losen up the engine because it does have engine braking on all the fixed modes and its a Honda so needs a good 10000 miles at least but I'm no expert. It was slightly jumpy wearing in my cb500x and the didn't have engine break aswell. I've had my Trasalp about 4 weeks
You could be right
When I heard the negatives I decided not to buy it but then changed my mind after hearing the positives.. keen to know if you ever considered secondhand bmw gs instead?
I actually began my search by looking at the GS, Tiger 1200 and Multistrada, but quickly realised I didn’t need to spend so much to get what I wanted. The Transalp is a Honda, it gets the job done and if I ever break down in Morocco, I know a dealer will be a stone’s throw away. I need that more than telelever suspension or a heated seat😉
*I do not see a way to put 20/30 more HP and still have the relatively low weight of the bike. You have an idea about this?*
It was only wishful thinking😊
A rear rack as standard is good, especially when you see the price they charge on bikes like the Nc750x. QS is a reasonable price and heated grips are only double the price of Oxford hotgrips. Their luggage looks to be a rip off though...
Agreed. And the luggage was originally designed for the NT1100, so doesn't suit the Transalp, imo
@@RocketMan_Moto with the commonality of the luggage between the transalp, NT1100 and nc750x the price should be much lower. Have a look at the luggage price for a versys 650 /1000, common between the 2, €550 last I looked.
Crazy. Another reason I’m going aftermarket😊
LOL, more power! Sounds like you bought the wrong motorcycle altogether. Why did you even consider a Transalp with your need for 30 more HP?!
Otherwise, very much appreciate your detailed and helpful review of your Transalp. This might be my future bike as a used buy, when I outgrow my 2022 CB500X.
I always want more power. I wish my Speed Twin had 150hp😊
As for power complaining, seems that you are not using all of its power - you should adjust to engine power curve, it is driven at higher RPM (7000-9500rpm). It is too fast, 206kg and 92HP - it does 0 - 160kmh in about 7s (1/4 mile, 12.1s) that is faster than many sport cars at 500hp range.
Thanks for your feedback. I wish my Speed Twin had 200hp😊
Great honest update. Many thanks for a really useful video. Awaiting delivery of my Transalp in September
Thanks. Hope you’re not too put off by my criticism, it’s a great ‘little’ bike and I’m very happy with mine. Hope you enjoy yours😊👍
Love your reviews. Had the 500x and was very pleased with it BUT wanted a little more power for touring two up. Dispite nearly an hour test ride its proved not all I hoped. I could get the hard seat re padded but its the slight delay before the engine picks up from letting out the clutch that I'm struggling with (any mode). My dealer has suggested I try the demonstrator bike again next week to see if it is any better. We shall see ....
Thanks. Put it in Sport mode and give it the beans. It’s significantly more potent than the CB500X😊👍
You could take your radiator grill off, treat it with a chemical etch, rinse, dry, and two coats of matte black. A 40 minute job. Would look better.
I have done exactly that, using high-temperature matte black paint. Looks much better… because you can’t see it now😂
I am lucky to enjoy this and other great motorcycles and in my view, none of the mentioned are flaws, except the head light, they are just features and "I would like to's". Nothing is perfect.
Thanks for your input👍😊
Not really imprtant bad coments. The most serious is the head lights, I have a HONDA CB 500 X, "very bad lights".. also NOT beautyful. But it s a HONDA!!!!
Tbh, I've never ridden a motorcycle with decent headlights
All of the manufacturers seem to follow a “more CCs, more function, more quality, more cost” formula. I wonder how the market would respond if a manufacturer made a mid-range (cc) bike with all of the trimmings, high quality, albeit higher cost?
I for one would be interested👍
I just tested the V-Strom 800 today, the only things I can fault really are the price and some buzziness through the pegs and grips...even more vibration than my Royal Enfield Himalayan! Otherwise though I found you can get to the speed limit effortlessly with the torquey engine, the bike is pretty nimble despite the 21" front wheel, brakes are very sharp, suspension is very composed and plush, seat is comfortable, standing position is good, the bike doesn't feel its 230kg (barely feels heavier than my Himalayan) and the quick shifter is the best I've used by far. Suzuki really seems to have focused on making a bike that's great to ride rather than worrying about the specs sheet, props to them!
Also the throttle angle thing is funny, pretty much every modern, fuel injected bike has a throttle position sensor or something similar, I guess Honda asked the question...why not display the current reading on the dash?
Great feedback on the 800DE. Thanks for sharing👍I realise they have the info from the throttle, but why display it? What next, knee angle?😂
@@RocketMan_Moto how about fuel pump pressure or exhaust gas composition?
Don’t give them ideas🙄😂