they are just trying to blow smoke up everybodies ass because, they couldn't figure out how to cover it all up!. I mean they actually sat on it for almost a year, without doing a damn thing!.
Municipal police chiefs are often subordinate to the City Manager. The City Manager is under contract and can only be removed (and probably still get paid) by the City Council. It's NOT easy to simply remove a police chief.
DO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACTS. This department has done everything they can to avoid accountability. This behavior goes all the way to the top, it HAS to! “Unaware” is a lie. Blue team was involved from day one!!
Another two cases need to be presented to the lying Chief . One of his " officers " drugged and raped a man and only got 4 years . Also another case where a citizen was violently arrested for no reason . Loveland PD has a bad history and the media should be on top of it but aren't ( as per usual ) . Remember , police are trained to lie , intimidate , incriminate and to break the law . Imagine if she was attacked ( in the same violent way ) by a fellow citizen . They would be arrested , charged and jailed but when ever police are involved they get a paid vacation . The police investigating it's own is a conflict of interest at any time . ALL police are thugs and scum . Also out of 4 bad cops where was the " good cops " we keep hearing about ? They don't exist because it's a myth .
@White Rabbit Prophecies That seems true from the reporting we see. Also the hiring protocol with a heavy, ex military bias. These institutions clearly attract the personality type you mentioned with people short on empathy.
If a civilian did that they get into trouble and possible jail time. Cops do that and they get to keep their job and only assigned to "administrative duty" get those criminals locked up
you can bet there's more than just her out there. You can be the have done this numerous times and people are scared to speak up,, If they have done it before I hope the others come forward and press charges.
It’s one of the most hurtful videos I’ve ever seen because I picture that this elderly woman could easily have been my Mother (My Mom had dementia for years). Did any of these Cops have an ounce of humanity in their characters? It is abhorrent and disgraceful. One of the other commentators said they were allowed to resign with benefits. If that’s the case, I despair that there will ever be accountability in the Police Force. This is so patently an abuse of power, an abuse of an vulnerable elderly person AND the Officers were seen on CCTV LAUGHING about it! How sick is that! I’m getting angrier as I’m typing this. Now I think, PEOPLE like these Cops, should be removed permanently from the gene pool. The human race would be better off without these people as part of it.
@@agf1700 I agree, I am one that normally tries to see so both sides of the story and not just jump on the outrage train but this one is so cut and dried it is unreal! That monster KNEW he hurt her ("hear that pop?") and LAUGHED about it then did not get her medical care and just let her set there with a broken bone for HOURS! Sick and sadistic. That monster has no business with a badge! He mentally just steps away from a concentration camp guard right there. It makes me sick to see.
@@agf1700 Is anyone *really* surprised by this video ? Do you know what would surprise me: if a bunch of microbiologists got together & tortured helpless people. THAT would surprise me - this doesn’t. Some professions self-select for certain “types” of people. What little piece of shit monster grows up wanting to *CONTROL* other people ? A bully or an inept man-child with low self esteem, that’s who. The job description literally self-selects for assholes. Most police departments are comprised of these types of mentally-ill socially backward MISFITS. In a different time or place, these same *depraved* psychologically-stunted sadists would likely have similar profiles to slave owners or wife beaters (actually, data shows that cops *are* more likely to be domestic abusers, so the FACTS actually back up the latter part). There are a few exceptions (for instance, a kid whose dad or grandfather was a cop might dutifully want to follow in their footsteps & they aren’t mean-spirited or bullies), but the vast majority of cops seem to be dickheads. “Protect & Serve” ? ...more like “Harass & Bully”. ¯\_(“)_/¯
Fired?! They should be arrested for Elder Abuse, assault, failure to provide medical attention. The innocent nativity of Councilwoman Marsh is breathtaking.
Hog-tied with a broken arm and shoulder. Imagine how that felt. And how much of a threat was she? Only jail time will fix this. Make an example out of them.
Jail time won't fix this! That is a sad truth!!! Serious Prison Time after a trial and conviction is a MUST, however!!! Like most criminals they didn't think this would see the light of day! The most telling thing is about their attitudes, and about their actions throughout from the start to the finish. Their belief that they are protected by Blue Vail "Thin Blue Line" and they were until it came too light!!! Though even more, telling is the City of Loveland's lack of any action until the video saw the light day. This is now and always will be out and out THUGGERY!!! Yet they did NOTHING until it went PUBLIC! How does jail time fix this mindset across the board? How many times has this sort of Crime happened that never see the light of day, behind the Blue Vail? The thin blue line is crossing a line that is doing more to undermine public trust than any other criminal could!
I heard three of those thugs have resigned. Hope the lawyer goes after them as individuals. Take their house, their cars, their bank accounts. And if they go 15 miles up the road to work for another department, garnish their salaries. Filthy, slimy villains.
The biggest thing that this story didnt even address is the simple fact that they knew she was injured during the arrest and provided zero medical assistance to a old woman with a now broken and dislocated arm.
The new video from the booking area is a VERY interesting sequel....Occupational suicide at its finest..Ozzie and Harriet should be proactive here and start cleaning out their lockers..
What do you think they've been doing to Black people? We tried warning the public for nearly 158 years that police were abusive and brutal... But it kept getting swept under the rug and hidden in plain sight. The good ol boys have been doing this for so long that now they do it to any person of any race. You get what you give...hate that this happens to the elderly lady but maybe now other people other than POC will move to make these cops be held to a higher level of accountability
If the council doesn’t have that kind of power to fire them, that means that the city manager DOES. Do it. Get busy prosecuting these criminals with uniforms. They are a danger to the community and need to be locked up
council very likely delegated power to fire to police chief albeit through the city manager. So they're all responsible. While the chief may refuse to terminate the council may bring pressure to bear on the city manager to replace that chief with one that would terminate...
The arrest its self disgusted me but to see and hear them laughing and fist pumping while watching the video is appalling and is an indication of the sheer lack of respect and morals this bunch have. They should be fired from the police force.
I was personally bullied as a victim of domestic violence by a police officer in Loveland. It wasn’t pretty. This sort of bullying and violence has been going on for longer than most of us realize or want to admit. My heart goes out to Karen and her family.
This has been a problem in Loveland for at least 20 years. But it is happening in Denver and other places in Colorado too. They resign one city and go work for another. It never ends. We need major police reform in Colorado.
I was staying at a motel ew drag through Loveland that goes through Thompson canyon e side of town n side of the street near the Loveland city paper. I was harassed bullied verbally abused by the Loveland police. This was after my car and my room number did not fit the description of the suspect. And I have a clean record. This was twenty ten. I still suffer from psychological damages from this incident. I went to the Loveland paper with an editorial. Don't know if it was printed
@I win You lose doesnt matter if he 'was a bad person', he still didn't deserve to be murdered on the street for no reason and who are you calling karen? look in the mirror
I was a paramedic for over 32 years, now retired as a firefighter-paramedic. In my career profession my patients always came first over everyone else. I was their advocate and protector. It was a sacred duty I did not take lightly. What you do is not a job, it is a ministry.
It’s an ego trip with these guys. They give a command and want you follow it immediately. God help you if you are confused, scared, a child, elderly, special needs or suffering from a mental illness. Cops that use this type of force when their life is not in danger are sick.
@@louisavondart9178 Well, so much for that impunity. He's now unemployed and under criminal investigation. The odds that he won't be charged are extremely low.
This is why I won’t travel out of Texas! If all the City Councils and Law Enforcement are like Loveland then screw out of state travel!! I’m a bit “not” surprised this HAS NOT been escalated to county, state and federal level and justice was denied this grandmother!! If the State of Colorado treats elderly men-women like dirt then i Trust G-d and Karma.. Assuming there is any justice in other states? Let’s wait till abusive cops grow old with dementia and get treated like this poor woman!
@The Weapon Collection I totally agree with you the population is out of control in Loveland and that whole area the tent cities are ridiculous! But Colorado is now the land for the homeless just look at the tent cities ridiculous.....
When will people understand that mental illness cannot ever be beaten out of a person, I cannot begin to express on how many levels this is wrong, from the Walmart staff forward, including the weak response of the councilwoman.
She didn't even leave with the merchandise! They denied her medical care for 6 hours! They dislocated her shoulder and broke her arm, then laughed about it. Psychopaths, the lot of them.
Yeah, the civilian review boards will work as well as the bodycams. Lawyers too have civilian review boards, ask anyone that has gone against a lawyer how well that works.
A Civilian review board with Power is needed. I have yet to see one that could fire or punish an abusive or criminal cop. Eliminate qualified immunity, and require every cop to supply self paid liability insurance.
@@randyfourtyeight7410 parroting msm i see,,, and do you know what the result would be? because they do and that's what they want for our country,,,in a very short time our country would descend to a level of a third world country,,people like you would be hiding in your basement afraid to go out,,,everyone on here likes to turn their thought processes over to social media without the regard for the ramifications of what they are supporting because they don't really live in the real world but instead they exist in a social construct of garbage ideas that don't really function in reality, you people like to take the most rare of happenings and elevate/magnify them to seem like they are a crisis and then repeat repeat repeat
What’s “funny” about abusing a frail , elderly, dementia patient? Then leaving her for 6 hours with no medical attention with a dislocated shoulder and a fractured arm.
They have cast a dark cloud on the city of Loveland and every person there. It will take generations to get back to respect. "To Serve and Protect" ??? And to dislocate shoulders.
Not only should they be fired but, should be barred from being law enforcement forever. Nor would it trouble me if they did some time for their heinous crimes.
Wal-Mart had better start training their employees better when dealing with elderly people, Dementia hits folks even in their 50s. My Mother-n-law has Alzheimer's with Stoke. She puts things in her pockets, without knowing she has done this. I can go into all the behaviors but old folks simple forget. Why was the lady not allowed to pay for her flowers once she was told she hadn't paid for them. I've walked out of Wal-Mart with sunglasses on my head- I wear eyeglasses but sometimes contacts, I found a pair of glasses I liked and instead of putting them in the basket to get scratched I wore them on my head. Wal-Mart allowed me to pay for them- mistakes happen. Of course, that was 20 years ago when people were still human.
I’m 70 and have had 4 shoulder rotator repairs. I’m now recovering from a reverse shoulder replacement. If a cop had done that to my arm, I’d never be able to use it again. I’m on my last result! This is inexcusable! Both my parents had dementia and this is horrible treatment for someone not understanding.
I have a hearing loss and I doubt that I would have understood his "command" directed at me from behind and from 200 paces! That rotten cop was itching for a fight with an old lady and said he wanted to "play". A psycho in action! I hope they take them all to civil and criminal court! Wring every penny they can out of the bastard and his team.
Exactly! Since everything was so da** funny to the big bad bully cop, strip Mr. Giggles of HIS LAUGHTER while they're at it by popping HIS shoulder out of the socket AND hog tie him...THEN tie his nut sack to HIS feet. Let's see how much laughter & bragging comes out of him afterwards.
@@nopjack7278 Seems a bit extreme but I agree. I would only add out them in a public stockade as well. It would be cathartic for the public and family. I also believe that officers doing this kind of injustice should be stripped of their assets and pensions.
@@lalaj5831 Perhaps the "sound of the type of physical restraints" suggested are a bit extreme, but that's exactly my point...the assaults on citizens for simple traffic infractions ARE unnecessarily EXTREME. I agree with you on outing them AND digging into their pension nest eggs and salaries...these tyrants usually get paid administrative leave IF they are ever investigated for complaints.
You guys need to fire the police chief, its his fault, he knew, and at his press conference today he just made excuses, he said he knew everyone of his officers personally because it was his duty, then couldn't answer how old was the cop. Didnt have that info. Didnt know this , couldn't say that and was very upset at having yo be held accountable saying police are humans , really, what kind of human beats up a 80% helpless 73yr old woman then makes jokes and brags about it. And the Sargent with 26years at the dept is right there seeing nothing wrong, which means its systemic and the chiwfs fault , he knows them all personally remember, it his duty, unlike protecting the public obviously
Careful Mayor...you too could be on the Loveland PD hit list and subsequent “Blue Team” follow-up someday. Loveland PD...kicking the ass of Grandmothers for more than a year.
@@deadtolove true but please don't get trapped in either/or black/white thinking. I was the other Rodney King in the Spring of 1991...6 LAPD beat me nearly to death, broke my neck, destroyed my brain and laughed.....I've suffered every day and night (as have my family) for 30 years straight and I'm on my last legs now. I was 19.... attending university on scholarship, white and privileged some might say. I received a 'go to hell' letter from Bill Bratton thanking me for letting him know. I didn't receive a dime, only TBI and 30 years of little/no sleep and 40 years off my life. Nobody said boo on my behalf. Also, my friend had her skull bashed in and was gangraped by 7 on duty Boise Police Officers....Adam Crist, Adam Nielsen, Ltn Kevin Witmuss +4. This happened on Christmas Night 2011. For 10 years I shouted from the top of the mountain for Justice....it never arrived. She was white and middle-aged too. Cops shoot and kill 3 Americans a day or 1000 / year. I wonder how many they assault, maime and rape? The World only hears and cares about the ones who fit the narrative or the Agenda. America was just an experiment in Freedom. And it seems to have failed. Thanks for reading. # end COPROT
Just before this video, I watched another Loveland Police incident with Preston Sowl which cost the City of Loveland taxpayers $290,000 to settle a lawsuit. I'd say there is a systemic problem with the Loveland Police Department and the way you deal with that is to cut off the head of the snake (fire the police chief.)
. . . such doesn't only question the behaviour of Loveland PD - it is questioning the behaviour of the completely broken police / justice / correction system in the US in general !
Everyone knows this is how cops act, UA-cam is Full of examples of this behavior, not a surprise at all. Popping out her shoulder, Not providing med care for 6 hours and laughing about it is what thugs do. This is clearly how he wants his parents to be treated,.. "Do unto others" right ?
@I win You lose why are you commenting EVERYWHERE? also hUh? context? and once again I will say THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OKAY TO MURDER SOMEONE GET IT IN UR BRAIN
@Roy Hernandez Oh, well, like a poorly planned joke, once you explained it things make sense. In all seriousness, it would have worked better if you had typed, "midisarcasmians", pronounced "midi-sarcas-mians".
If Loveland wants to be a trusted, safe city, the entire police force must be revamped and the Chief has to be fired. An injured elderly citizen was locked in a room, handcuffed behind her back while in dire need of medical treatment. If you _”can’t fire them”_ then defund the department.
This shows the internal review board (the blue team) didn't actually review this case, if its taken the video to be released before any action has been taken, these officers probably don't remember which case as this is probably a routine occurrence for them, remove the blue team....file charges on whoever is named as the reviewers for derelict of duties and all officers involved directly or indirectly to this case should be charged as well
To be a police officer it is well known that one has to pass a psych evaluation, what isn't widely known is in addition to 8th grade intelligence they actively seek individuals who take pleasure in, or otherwise enjoy, violence they call it "temperment" but what they mean is "are you the kind of person who would willing hurt others for any reason"
Yes. Psychopathy is prevelant in policing by design. If you go to Google scholar and try to find information on prevelence of psychopathy in police, it's hard to get solid numbers, but you'll find prevelant of papers arguing its advantages, all of which seem to assume that police spend their whole day interacting with hardened criminals instead of the petty bs which makes up something like 97% of interactions.
Exactly. The Chief of Police is NOT innocent nor can he claim ignorance. The head of an organization is responsible for what happens in that organization. The U. S. Navy practices this philosophy every time a ship is involved in a collision or grounding.
We have investigated ourselves and found that we have done nothing wrong. The officers reacted within department policy guidelines.This incident was reviewed administratively and determined all policies were followed.
Qualified immunity has to be taken away so that these police start to think about the reprocutions on their actions with no punishment comes greater crimes
For hundreds of years Police have assumed many unwritten power and authorities over their salary payers. Now it is time to clean up and remind them their true responsibilities!!!!
@@kevinjostes8149 no, BK is right police are part of a system that was designed to oppress, the poor, the elderly, those with disabilities and especially minorities.
Yup...The entire purpose of "policing" the population has little to do with actual law enforcement...the practice was only adopted in the 1700's as a way to keep the working class, slaves, and the poor from uprising and to protect the wealthy ruling class and their property...in the US we have the 13th Amendment, which is literally government regulated slavery, and the purpose of the police in the US is to fill prisons with a cheap labor force and extort the working class. They are class traitors first and foremost if they are doing the job correctly...and they are violent thugs and assholes because "the fuck you gonna do about it?"
I hope each officer involved is fired with full loss of any & all benefits earned! Every single case they have ever been involved in needs to be investigated! They all need to be criminally charged & immediately placed into open prison population! I'd like to watch some video footage of how funny they think this is while they each have the entire prison population pop'n their bones! Grrr!! How incredibly disgusting!!!
They better fire these sick individuals!! This could be your mother or your grandmother attached by these sadistic criminals!! She wasn’t going to hurt anybody!!
Councillor I hope you and your colleagues understand that there is much more than just your Council that is questioning this. I live in Australia and many of us here have watched it and are amazed how these officers have been allowed to get away with this. How can a policing system be so bad that they don't care about their own beating up an elderly lady and then leaving her without medical care for 6 hours, even after they knew they had caused her injury?
It's a good question. This has been happening for years before body cameras and new laws that require transparency. Thank the good lawyer for releasing the video publicly.
The "police" need to be policed. They are totally out of control. These officers must be criminally prosecuted, incarcerated, and kept off the streets. Of course they should lose their pensions--to their victims.
Anyone who watches this video of this elderly sick woman who's not even a 100 pounds the thrown to the ground have arm dislocated bruises all over her and think there's nothing wrong with policing in America is insane.
the giddy laughter of officer Hoff and his two cohorts makes one wonder just who are the real criminals in Loveland???...add to this the absolute lack of care or concern for Karen Garner as she sat injured in a jail cell for SIX HOURS!!! It is simply appalling that an elderly member of our society could be treated this way just to satiate the malignant ego of just one officer. The real issue here is just what kind of police culture can these kinds of police officers exist in the first place??? Almost as bad as the behavior of the officers depicted here, is the fact that this 'use of force' was endorsed up the chain of command. Only once the video footage was released to the public did the police chief even acknowledge the seriousness of the incident and the injuries that Karen Garner suffered at the hands of these thugs. Let alone the fact that Sgt. Metzler signed off on the situation in real time and tried to dissuade a citizen witness...this whole incident just demonstrates how diseased and corrupt policing is in America. Our African American brothers & sisters have been telling us this very fact for decades but now with everything on video we get to see what they've been dealing with for hundreds of years...this should have NEVER HAPPENED IN AMERICA, truly disgusting...
Because we have a system of checks and balances. Police are part of the Executive Branch. They enforce the laws. City council is the legislative branch. They create the laws. Chief of Police is an appointed position by the mayor (executive branch). It is not an elected position. So, what people need to do is vote out the mayor if he is unwilling to replace the chief with somebody who cares about the citizens. Thats how it is supposed to work.
Mike Hill, if only everyone understood how the system works, then maybe the people could actually understand the power they have in situations like this. But too many are ignorant and are happy to give up their rights.
@@mikerodrigues9091 Well, more specifically they prefer mob rule. It is quite satisfying to get all angry, and while they are taking a poop, bang out some ill-thought tweet. Much harder to remember the issues, get out in public, make your voice heard, attend city council meetings, and actually vote. And, when evaluating a candidate, you have to forgo bullshit like what church they go to, whether they think men should be able to get married, and you have to pay attention to things that actually matter. No, it's much easier to get mad and yell when things dont go your way. Ask any 4 year old.
The fact the Chief slapped them on the wrist is bad news for him. If they get a high powered attorney it could get worse. No excuse city council Disgusting.
The officers being so happy about their attack on that poor woman show the horrific level of sadism in that department. Nothing less than FIRING all of them in that video is required AND charges filed. The delay in that process is so wrong! It really shows a break down in their humanity.
I called Loveland PD Monday @ 9:46 PM and asked about the beating of this elderly woman and they busted out laughing. I just found out that that call has been recorded. It will go on record as part of this investigation.
Excellent! Do you remember the Canadian driver who was arrested for driving without a valid license, in Georgia? I called them recently. I was told sneeringly I was "a piece of cake lady." Oh, officer who first answered the phone did not know a Canadian license was legal in the U.S. so they're still not teaching that. Supervisor told me emphatically 3 times that she was "married to the Sheriff" as if that was an official position. I called Canadian embassy, local newspaper, and the state of Georgia Governor's office. Embassy didn't seem to care, newspaper was interested (made me wonder if they might do a follow-up), Governor's office was deeply embarrassed and said my complaint would be reviewed; I believe them. Following up on these types of news pieces has become a minor hobby of mine. I suggest it to anyone. Let them know we're watching.
@@veramae4098 you'd think the Canadian embassy would care the most; it's their citizens getting harassed. Sounds like their government is no more competent than ours.
Walmart did what they're supposed to do. Report crimes. You can't blame those folks for the action of bad policing. Mental order or not....people need to be treated fairly. It one thing you arrest a person who just committed a violent act and fleeing police vs petty crimes like shop lifting.
The Thin Blue line (Lying) Tyrant Gang members disgusting abuse of this elder is unacceptable! They need to be held accountable including the police chief who lied too ! Of course we all know they will get Qualified Immunity and get away with it ! 😡
Dude, that's a great idea. I'm sick of seeing $billions in settlements being paid by insurance companies and taxpayer's $ nationwide because of pigs. I'm sick and tired of seeing this BS that the cop was "in fear for his life", I'm sick of the cop's Union claiming immunity through that disgusting "Qualified Immunity" clause in their contract. That's gotta stop!
Would these cops be laughing and cheering if their OWN mother/grandmother was treated this way??? How do you even reform/rehabilitate such a sadistic mentality???
Some fools do attack and kill their own mothers! The man who recently attacked and stomped on the head on an elderly Asian woman had just been released from prison after serving a term for murdering his own morher.
Talk talk talk! That's all we ever get, No change! We are oppressed here in America by our OWN so called protectors! There will be a reckoning on this world one day, they won't laugh like that in the presence of Holy God!
This is what people have been saying all along. The police environment is a broken system. It's a shame that it's only when it gets to this point that many want to now take it seriously. If it were your family member then you would be reactive. Let's be proactive for once and hold the system accountable.
@@skrapenpennies9947 Why did you bring race into it. No one mentioned that. This is about our twisted police system! This is what people mean by defunding the police. This was not a job for police. This should have been given to a social worker or mental health worker, perhaps with one officer accompanying them in case of trouble. They should have went to the home to talk to whoever cares for this lady to make sure someone goes with her to the store from now on, and of course make sure Walmart got their friggin 13.00 dollars back!
@@lesedic7836 bc I can. Blacks act they are the only ones the police mistreat. Don't blame me blame the media they are always pointing it out. I'm just telling the side they won't
The mayor when she found about this should have fired the chef, then asked for the arrest of officer hopp and the other officer and demand charges be brought. How could she just sit there and beat around the bush on this issue!
They thought the problem could be buried because Karen suffered from dementia. Now the world knows and is very angry. They can't sit on the problem anymore.
Can you imagine if the victim was that age AND homeless??? Nobody gives a shit. I'm unhoused, that age and have been hassled by cops. I'm well aware it could be me, and well aware nobody would give a SHIT. 😠😤😖
If the Council does not "have that kind of power" to fire all 4 officers, then fire the person who does have that power and never used it.
they can close down the whole force and start from scratch... ironically during the interim of no police force the citizens might be safer...
they are just trying to blow smoke up everybodies ass because, they couldn't figure out how to cover it all up!. I mean they actually sat on it for almost a year, without doing a damn thing!.
that's a solid take.
@@jamesconn1290 I think they need to do that! Clear them out.
Municipal police chiefs are often subordinate to the City Manager. The City Manager is under contract and can only be removed (and probably still get paid) by the City Council.
It's NOT easy to simply remove a police chief.
DO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACTS. This department has done everything they can to avoid accountability. This behavior goes all the way to the top, it HAS to! “Unaware” is a lie. Blue team was involved from day one!!
@Michael Eravi Absolutely! It starts with the cover up & blatant lies from the good ole police chief...wondering how & when did their mayor find out
Absolutely Correct… starts at the top… all are lying POS cop!!!
Agree, pure Corruption.
Another two cases need to be presented to the lying Chief . One of his " officers " drugged and raped a man and only got 4 years . Also another case where a citizen was violently arrested for no reason . Loveland PD has a bad history and the media should be on top of it but aren't ( as per usual ) . Remember , police are trained to lie , intimidate , incriminate and to break the law . Imagine if she was attacked ( in the same violent way ) by a fellow citizen . They would be arrested , charged and jailed but when ever police are involved they get a paid vacation . The police investigating it's own is a conflict of interest at any time . ALL police are thugs and scum . Also out of 4 bad cops where was the " good cops " we keep hearing about ? They don't exist because it's a myth .
Chief is lying. Mayor and city council are hiding behind “we didn’t know”. Ignorance shouldn’t be an acceptable excuse. That’s incompetence.
On ministrative leave = paid vacation. They should be fired and locked up!
@I win You lose I definitely wouldn’t, I couldnt beat an old lady up.
Paid administrative leave is definitely a reward.
@I win You lose Most of us wouldn't. It takes a goddamn PSYCHOPATH to do it the way it's done now.
@I win You lose So you like to beat up defenseless old ladies is what you are saying.
@Chris Kelly so their job is to beat up and kidnap frail and defenseless old ladys? Yeah big men they must be.
The way they had her in that cell for hours knowing she had broken bones is enough for me.
not the fact that they broke them in the first place? lol
The officer even commented about how small she was and how easy it was for him to push her around. What a hero, his mother must be so proud.
She will be really proud when she visits him in prison.
@White Rabbit Prophecies That seems true from the reporting we see. Also the hiring protocol with a heavy, ex military bias. These institutions clearly attract the personality type you mentioned with people short on empathy.
If a civilian did that they get into trouble and possible jail time. Cops do that and they get to keep their job and only assigned to "administrative duty" get those criminals locked up
If they used excessive force on a senior with dementia and laughed about it, then please check all the cases they're involved in.
you can bet there's more than just her out there. You can be the have done this numerous times and people are scared to speak up,, If they have done it before I hope the others come forward and press charges.
It’s one of the most hurtful videos I’ve ever seen because I picture that this elderly woman could easily have been my Mother (My Mom had dementia for years). Did any of these Cops have an ounce of humanity in their characters? It is abhorrent and disgraceful. One of the other commentators said they were allowed to resign with benefits. If that’s the case, I despair that there will ever be accountability in the Police Force. This is so patently an abuse of power, an abuse of an vulnerable elderly person AND the Officers were seen on CCTV LAUGHING about it! How sick is that! I’m getting angrier as I’m typing this. Now I think, PEOPLE like these Cops, should be removed permanently from the gene pool. The human race would be better off without these people as part of it.
@@agf1700 I agree, I am one that normally tries to see so both sides of the story and not just jump on the outrage train but this one is so cut and dried it is unreal! That monster KNEW he hurt her ("hear that pop?") and LAUGHED about it then did not get her medical care and just let her set there with a broken bone for HOURS! Sick and sadistic. That monster has no business with a badge! He mentally just steps away from a concentration camp guard right there. It makes me sick to see.
Bullying thugs in police uniform. Despicable scumbags!
@@agf1700 Is anyone *really* surprised by this video ? Do you know what would surprise me: if a bunch of microbiologists got together & tortured helpless people. THAT would surprise me - this doesn’t. Some professions self-select for certain “types” of people. What little piece of shit monster grows up wanting to *CONTROL* other people ? A bully or an inept man-child with low self esteem, that’s who. The job description literally self-selects for assholes. Most police departments are comprised of these types of mentally-ill socially backward MISFITS. In a different time or place, these same *depraved* psychologically-stunted sadists would likely have similar profiles to slave owners or wife beaters (actually, data shows that cops *are* more likely to be domestic abusers, so the FACTS actually back up the latter part). There are a few exceptions (for instance, a kid whose dad or grandfather was a cop might dutifully want to follow in their footsteps & they aren’t mean-spirited or bullies), but the vast majority of cops seem to be dickheads.
“Protect & Serve” ? ...more like “Harass & Bully”. ¯\_(“)_/¯
Fired?! They should be arrested for Elder Abuse, assault, failure to provide medical attention. The innocent nativity of Councilwoman Marsh is breathtaking.
She's not naive...she's playing politics. Hold their feet to the fire, because if it doesn't hurt the politicians then nothing changes.
she has a sign behind her that says CHOOSE HAPPY
Naivete.
@@deadtolove
White Lives Matter
@@deadtolove
Shut up....
Hog-tied with a broken arm and shoulder. Imagine how that felt. And how much of a threat was she?
Only jail time will fix this. Make an example out of them.
That cop was so amped he acted like a cage fighter against this woman. "Oh you wanna fight, we can fight!".
Amen. Jail time. Make an example of them.
I want more than jail time. I want some crimes perpetrated on them
Jail time won't fix this! That is a sad truth!!! Serious Prison Time after a trial and conviction is a MUST, however!!! Like most criminals they didn't think this would see the light of day! The most telling thing is about their attitudes, and about their actions throughout from the start to the finish. Their belief that they are protected by Blue Vail "Thin Blue Line" and they were until it came too light!!! Though even more, telling is the City of Loveland's lack of any action until the video saw the light day. This is now and always will be out and out THUGGERY!!! Yet they did NOTHING until it went PUBLIC! How does jail time fix this mindset across the board? How many times has this sort of Crime happened that never see the light of day, behind the Blue Vail? The thin blue line is crossing a line that is doing more to undermine public trust than any other criminal could!
They said none of this in the above video.
I heard three of those thugs have resigned. Hope the lawyer goes after them as individuals. Take their house, their cars, their bank accounts. And if they go 15 miles up the road to work for another department, garnish their salaries. Filthy, slimy villains.
For the Rest of their Natural lives
Garnish. They should be arrested for assault
They should never work as police ever again. Keep them away from hospitals and nursing homes, too. Anything where they have power over someone else.
The officers there should go to prison. That woman could have died from the brutality of that assault. Chief is complicit too, GONE!
@@CBDav Courts attach personal property each and every day. It should happen to these scum stains.
The biggest thing that this story didnt even address is the simple fact that they knew she was injured during the arrest and provided zero medical assistance to a old woman with a now broken and dislocated arm.
Depraved indifference!
The video really shines a light on their viciousness towards the defenseless.
This is how they treat poor people...SMH
The new video from the booking area is a VERY interesting sequel....Occupational suicide at its finest..Ozzie and Harriet should be proactive here and start cleaning out their lockers..
What do you think they've been doing to Black people? We tried warning the public for nearly 158 years that police were abusive and brutal... But it kept getting swept under the rug and hidden in plain sight. The good ol boys have been doing this for so long that now they do it to any person of any race.
You get what you give...hate that this happens to the elderly lady but maybe now other people other than POC will move to make these cops be held to a higher level of accountability
Vile subhumans, cowardly, if they were my family they would be disowned after a huge beating.
@I win You lose squirrel! You are a idiot!
If the council doesn’t have that kind of power to fire them, that means that the city manager DOES. Do it. Get busy prosecuting these criminals with uniforms. They are a danger to the community and need to be locked up
@Mary Last good for you!
The Governor can fire you then!
Danger to our community is correct!
@Mary Last thank you!
council very likely delegated power to fire to police chief albeit through the city manager. So they're all responsible. While the chief may refuse to terminate the council may bring pressure to bear on the city manager to replace that chief with one that would terminate...
The arrest its self disgusted me but to see and hear them laughing and fist pumping while watching the video is appalling and is an indication of the sheer lack of respect and morals this bunch have. They should be fired from the police force.
And arrested for assault.
They should be lined up against a wall
He heard her arm pop and they left her for hours handcuffed with her popped arm. Sickos need prison time!
@daniel unnaccountable slime like those who emply them...
@daniel someone who makes themselves feel good by abusing others , a sadist.
I was personally bullied as a victim of domestic violence by a police officer in Loveland. It wasn’t pretty. This sort of bullying and violence has been going on for longer than most of us realize or want to admit. My heart goes out to Karen and her family.
This has been a problem in Loveland for at least 20 years. But it is happening in Denver and other places in Colorado too. They resign one city and go work for another. It never ends. We need major police reform in Colorado.
What will it take to get the public to understand who these thugs really are????
Nobody cares dumbasss
My daughter also was bullied by the Loveland police she was a victim of domestic abuse.
I was staying at a motel ew drag through Loveland that goes through Thompson canyon e side of town n side of the street near the Loveland city paper. I was harassed bullied verbally abused by the Loveland police. This was after my car and my room number did not fit the description of the suspect. And I have a clean record. This was twenty ten. I still suffer from psychological damages from this incident. I went to the Loveland paper with an editorial. Don't know if it was printed
This is so disturbing. These officers are deplorable absolute crappy human beings. My heart goes out to this poor woman and her family 🇨🇦
Why is it disturbing, oh I get it, youre one that didn't take knee. Got it
@I win You lose actually, you’re a horrible human being for posting this.
@I win You lose doesnt matter if he 'was a bad person', he still didn't deserve to be murdered on the street for no reason and who are you calling karen? look in the mirror
@I win You lose he's not my hero though.... and I'm not crying. :/
@I win You lose you’re a coward hiding behind a keyboard.
Lies, lies, lies! From the top down! I do not care how many times the Chief has stood in the mirror and said we didn't know my a$$.
Officer Hopp bragged about it. Of course they all know from the moment she came into the station, huh!
@@riceexperiment sadly I suspect its typical behaviour. The fact that they barely tried to hide it.
He knew because he said he wanted to talk to them "later."
I hope to god that whole dept goes to jail! Classic cover up and if the chief didn't know he should be fired for incompetence
I was a paramedic for over 32 years, now retired as a firefighter-paramedic. In my career profession my patients always came first over everyone else. I was their advocate and protector. It was a sacred duty I did not take lightly. What you do is not a job, it is a ministry.
They are just evil and acting like savages to do that to an elderly person..
Even if she wasn't obeying commands, that level of force was never necessary. She's tiny and frail, she posed no threat to anyone.
It’s an ego trip with these guys. They give a command and want you follow it immediately. God help you if you are confused, scared, a child, elderly, special needs or suffering from a mental illness. Cops that use this type of force when their life is not in danger are sick.
That's EXACTLY why he did it. She was no threat so he could bully and mistreat her with impunity. Just another cowardly thug in uniform.
@@louisavondart9178 Well, so much for that impunity. He's now unemployed and under criminal investigation. The odds that he won't be charged are extremely low.
@@christopheraaron8299 I'll be shocked if any cop is charged for assaulting Garner.
@@leonardsowders7985 I’ll be shocked if the officer that took her down isn’t charged. It’s a different age, accountability isn’t impossible anymore.
The whole Loveland Police Department and city council are despicable human beings if they let this slide👎👎👎
Poor leadership settlement after settlement all under Robert Tiecen it starts at the top !!!
This is why I won’t travel out of Texas! If all the City Councils and Law Enforcement are like Loveland then screw out of state travel!! I’m a bit “not” surprised this HAS NOT been escalated to county, state and federal level and justice was denied this grandmother!! If the State of Colorado treats elderly men-women like dirt then i Trust G-d and Karma.. Assuming there is any justice in other states? Let’s wait till abusive cops grow old with dementia and get treated like this poor woman!
@The Weapon Collection I totally agree with you the population is out of control in Loveland and that whole area the tent cities are ridiculous! But Colorado is now the land for the homeless just look at the tent cities ridiculous.....
Right, where was the Mayor at doing that year, she act as if she this was new news...
Sadistic bastards, o.g
Fire the chief too ! Place this on all their permanent records do they can never serve in this capacity ever again ! They are bad apples 🍎!
The taxpayers pay for every aspect of our police departments. The taxpayers should be able to say we don’t want these people in our police force.
Facts
When will people understand that mental illness cannot ever be beaten out of a person, I cannot begin to express on how many levels this is wrong, from the Walmart staff forward, including the weak response of the councilwoman.
can stupidity and heartlessness be incarcerated out of these cops and the morons who hired them?
@sammy bubba not if they're psychopaths but they need to go to prison anyway.
@@sammybubba176 No. Sadistic psychopaths need to be rounded up and caged for the greater good.
the cops are mentally ill. This woman was strolling home, picking flowers. Shes among the sanest on earth
@@soundhealer6043 wrong, they need to die without a trial.
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE IS A PAID VACATION FOR THESE THUGS.
Those thugs don't need to be just fired, they need PRISON TIME!
She didn't even leave with the merchandise! They denied her medical care for 6 hours! They dislocated her shoulder and broke her arm, then laughed about it. Psychopaths, the lot of them.
YES "Civilian Review Boards" is needed EVERYWHERE-I been saying that myself for 30 years
Yeah, the civilian review boards will work as well as the bodycams. Lawyers too have civilian review boards, ask anyone that has gone against a lawyer how well that works.
@@patriayvida6850 what better suggestions do you have? OR are we all just at their mercy?
A Civilian review board with Power is needed. I have yet to see one that could fire or punish an abusive or criminal cop. Eliminate qualified immunity, and require every cop to supply self paid liability insurance.
Allowing police to “investigate “ themselves is no different than allowing a cannibal to perform an autopsy or a child molester to work in a daycare!
@@randyfourtyeight7410 parroting msm i see,,, and do you know what the result would be? because they do and that's what they want for our country,,,in a very short time our country would descend to a level of a third world country,,people like you would be hiding in your basement afraid to go out,,,everyone on here likes to turn their thought processes over to social media without the regard for the ramifications of what they are supporting because they don't really live in the real world but instead they exist in a social construct of garbage ideas that don't really function in reality, you people like to take the most rare of happenings and elevate/magnify them to seem like they are a crisis and then repeat repeat repeat
COPS ONLY ACT LIKE THIS WHEN IT IS ACCEPTED AND TOLERATED BY THOSE IN COMMAND.
the community needs to make sure these idiots are fired,,,, if they don't do something one of their family members will be next,,,,js
Yes, the problem is they always act like this. At least here in Colorado. This is not new. Just the first time we as the public finally have proof.
@@andrewbarney5503 Im here. Just a couple miles North of Loveland. If you're in Colorado you know where. Cops up here are quick to go hands on.
That's the bottom line
After talking to the chief years ago it was obvious no one had command he only wish to have others listening to him.
THEY MUST GO IN JAIL. OR ON PILLAR OF SHAME FOR PUBLIC TO PUNISH THEM. ONLY JUSTICE.
Yes! Bring back pillaries! But let the people piss on them
Will never happen!
Tar feather
Hang them on the square! This type mistreatment of citizens would end!!
They need to be held accountable to the FULLEST. 😤
What’s “funny” about abusing a frail , elderly, dementia patient? Then leaving her for 6 hours with no medical attention with a dislocated shoulder and a fractured arm.
They have cast a dark cloud on the city of Loveland and every person there. It will take generations to get back to respect. "To Serve and Protect" ??? And to dislocate shoulders.
Not only should they be fired but, should be barred from being law enforcement forever. Nor would it trouble me if they did some time for their heinous crimes.
The 99% of bad cops are hurting the reputation of the 1% of good cops.... ;O)
They should be fired before they can resign, then charged with assault!
They resigned and I'm sure with full pensions. That's what police unions do... protect the bad cops.
and get a police job somewhere else. JAIL TIME!
I think Walmart should rethink their shoplifting policies, she did offer to pay....
Walmart didn't tackle a helpless old woman to the ground.
Wal-Mart had better start training their employees better when dealing with elderly people, Dementia hits folks even in their 50s. My Mother-n-law has Alzheimer's with Stoke. She puts things in her pockets, without knowing she has done this. I can go into all the behaviors but old folks simple forget. Why was the lady not allowed to pay for her flowers once she was told she hadn't paid for them. I've walked out of Wal-Mart with sunglasses on my head- I wear eyeglasses but sometimes contacts, I found a pair of glasses I liked and instead of putting them in the basket to get scratched I wore them on my head. Wal-Mart allowed me to pay for them- mistakes happen. Of course, that was 20 years ago when people were still human.
@@bmanagement4657 you're argument is about as weak as your character.
Boycott Walmart!! They’re crazy leftist anyway!
@@mikew8622 nothing at all leftist about Walmart. And boycotts are a leftist action.
I’m 70 and have had 4 shoulder rotator repairs. I’m now recovering from a reverse shoulder replacement. If a cop had done that to my arm, I’d never be able to use it again. I’m on my last result! This is inexcusable! Both my parents had dementia and this is horrible treatment for someone not understanding.
I have a hearing loss and I doubt that I would have understood his "command" directed at me from behind and from 200 paces! That rotten cop was itching for a fight with an old lady and said he wanted to "play". A psycho in action! I hope they take them all to civil and criminal court! Wring every penny they can out of the bastard and his team.
The council doesn't have that sort of power but have the power to take your house if you don't pay property tax!
Holy! when I saw the "hear the pop" The only thing fair is to leave him equally in pain, scared, & helpless.
Exactly! Since everything was so da** funny to the big bad bully cop, strip Mr. Giggles of HIS LAUGHTER while they're at it by popping HIS shoulder out of the socket AND hog tie him...THEN tie his nut sack to HIS feet. Let's see how much laughter & bragging comes out of him afterwards.
@@nopjack7278 Seems a bit extreme but I agree. I would only add out them in a public stockade as well. It would be cathartic for the public and family. I also believe that officers doing this kind of injustice should be stripped of their assets and pensions.
@@lalaj5831 Perhaps the "sound of the type of physical restraints" suggested are a bit extreme, but that's exactly my point...the assaults on citizens for simple traffic infractions ARE unnecessarily EXTREME. I agree with you on outing them AND digging into their pension nest eggs and salaries...these tyrants usually get paid administrative leave IF they are ever investigated for complaints.
All 4 officer should be fired. As well as the person who was handling the case on the blue team, he failed as well. Smh
Indeed. Going after the enablers will greatly aid in limiting the enabled.
You lead by example so their leadership is very much involved in this behavior. The chief got to go.
They should also be jailed!!
@@photographyisnotacrime7300 My sentiments exactly! START with the police chief on down
Need to start at the top and replace all these lying devils!!!
This is what a cover up looks like. From the chief to the dispatcher everyone needs to go!
You guys need to fire the police chief, its his fault, he knew, and at his press conference today he just made excuses, he said he knew everyone of his officers personally because it was his duty, then couldn't answer how old was the cop. Didnt have that info. Didnt know this , couldn't say that and was very upset at having yo be held accountable saying police are humans , really, what kind of human beats up a 80% helpless 73yr old woman then makes jokes and brags about it. And the Sargent with 26years at the dept is right there seeing nothing wrong, which means its systemic and the chiwfs fault , he knows them all personally remember, it his duty, unlike protecting the public obviously
Careful Mayor...you too could be on the Loveland PD hit list and subsequent “Blue Team” follow-up someday. Loveland PD...kicking the ass of Grandmothers for more than a year.
A lot more than just Loveland council is questioning it.
The world is looking at police violence in America.
@@gerryward6931 Bingo.
Even those out of this world.
Everything is being watched.
👽
The whole world is watching, they all need to be punished.
@@gerryward6931 Its all over the world mot just an American thing and its been around since the beginning of policing.
@@deadtolove true but please don't get trapped in either/or black/white thinking. I was the other Rodney King in the Spring of 1991...6 LAPD beat me nearly to death, broke my neck, destroyed my brain and laughed.....I've suffered every day and night (as have my family) for 30 years straight and I'm on my last legs now. I was 19.... attending university on scholarship, white and privileged some might say. I received a 'go to hell' letter from Bill Bratton thanking me for letting him know. I didn't receive a dime, only TBI and 30 years of little/no sleep and 40 years off my life. Nobody said boo on my behalf.
Also, my friend had her skull bashed in and was gangraped by 7 on duty Boise Police Officers....Adam Crist, Adam Nielsen, Ltn Kevin Witmuss +4. This happened on Christmas Night 2011. For 10 years I shouted from the top of the mountain for Justice....it never arrived. She was white and middle-aged too. Cops shoot and kill 3 Americans a day or 1000 / year. I wonder how many they assault, maime and rape?
The World only hears and cares about the ones who fit the narrative or the Agenda.
America was just an experiment in Freedom. And it seems to have failed.
Thanks for reading.
# end COPROT
This Ego driven behavior occurs in various places across America - every single day !!
He was disturbing and heartbreaking. And horrifying for this woman. Shame on you Loveland shame shame on you 👹
Getting rid of bad cops is everybody’s business. Chief deserves replacement too.
They need to be held accountable to the FULLEST and that department needs to be DE-FUND. 😠
That poor old lady. Her dementia is worse because of this. Those cops need to go to prison
Just before this video, I watched another Loveland Police incident with Preston Sowl which cost the City of Loveland taxpayers $290,000 to settle a lawsuit. I'd say there is a systemic problem with the Loveland Police Department and the way you deal with that is to cut off the head of the snake (fire the police chief.)
They all need fired. Poor lady my mom had Dementia it was very hard to even see this.😭
@West 501 they need to be charged with elderly abuse
Fired is a given.
They should be charged and jailed.
Imagine thinking being fired is enough lol. If I did this to someone one random day at work as a truck driver I would be locked up for a decade
Jailed. Not just fired
@I win You lose That truck driver does way more then you do . Especially if you’re a cop
They got away with it till the video came out a year later. Lack of accountability for their actions costs no one but the tax payer.
I wonder what the Mayor was doing for that year? I thought that she was over the city and she talking as if she were surprise about the event...
Wow, right when I didn't think this could get any worse, they actually laughed about it...
He was giddy and so excited to use the hog tie for the very first time.
. . . such doesn't only question the behaviour of Loveland PD - it is questioning the behaviour of the completely broken police / justice / correction system in the US in general !
Everyone knows this is how cops act, UA-cam is Full of examples of this behavior, not a surprise at all.
Popping out her shoulder, Not providing med care for 6 hours and laughing about it is what thugs do.
This is clearly how he wants his parents to be treated,.. "Do unto others" right ?
This makes me nauseous. It is disgusting. From them laughing about her blood being on their hands then the cover-up. Sick.
@I win You lose why are you commenting EVERYWHERE? also hUh? context? and once again I will say THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OKAY TO MURDER SOMEONE GET IT IN UR BRAIN
@Sapphonymph Lesbos 🤣
@I win You lose You are a pathetic loser.
These officers must be held accountable! Fired and prosecuted for assault.
And kidnapping. What a shame.
never: they were doing exactly what they were told and trained to do...
@Starry Eyes You're too kind...but don't elaborate...UA-cam will ban you...
@@dd-jm1md ...and you don't see a problem with that?
@@justingates4985 if you believe that, you're quite incorrect...
Let's not forget the role the highly educated, well trained Wal*Mart employees play in this.
@Roy Hernandez ?
@Roy Hernandez Yes, I do but that's not what you initially spelled.
@Roy Hernandez Oh, well, like a poorly planned joke, once you explained it things make sense. In all seriousness, it would have worked better if you had typed, "midisarcasmians", pronounced "midi-sarcas-mians".
Yes. No one seems to be going after Walmart regarding this incident. Not legally, but morally.
@@stkittsmanuk1 I shop at this store and if I ever see the employees that were in the video I'm liable to say something.
The Loveland City Council is *_questioning_* Garner's arrest? What is there to question? It was elder abuse.
If Loveland wants to be a trusted, safe city, the entire police force must be revamped and the Chief has to be fired. An injured elderly citizen was locked in a room, handcuffed behind her back while in dire need of medical treatment. If you _”can’t fire them”_ then defund the department.
This shows the internal review board (the blue team) didn't actually review this case, if its taken the video to be released before any action has been taken, these officers probably don't remember which case as this is probably a routine occurrence for them, remove the blue team....file charges on whoever is named as the reviewers for derelict of duties and all officers involved directly or indirectly to this case should be charged as well
Qualified Immunity is THE PROBLEM!
To be a police officer it is well known that one has to pass a psych evaluation, what isn't widely known is in addition to 8th grade intelligence they actively seek individuals who take pleasure in, or otherwise enjoy, violence they call it "temperment" but what they mean is "are you the kind of person who would willing hurt others for any reason"
Yes. Psychopathy is prevelant in policing by design. If you go to Google scholar and try to find information on prevelence of psychopathy in police, it's hard to get solid numbers, but you'll find prevelant of papers arguing its advantages, all of which seem to assume that police spend their whole day interacting with hardened criminals instead of the petty bs which makes up something like 97% of interactions.
This is a LEADERSHIP issue! The culture of any team comes from above.
Exactly. The Chief of Police is NOT innocent nor can he claim ignorance. The head of an organization is responsible for what happens in that organization. The U. S. Navy practices this philosophy every time a ship is involved in a collision or grounding.
We have investigated ourselves and found that we have done nothing wrong. The officers reacted within department policy guidelines.This incident was reviewed administratively and determined all policies were followed.
Qualified immunity has to be taken away so that these police start to think about the reprocutions on their actions with no punishment comes greater crimes
Fired and never have any kind of law enforcement job anywhere in the world, absolutely outrageous!!!
Keep at this story. Do not let them get away with this illegal behaviour!
For hundreds of years Police have assumed many unwritten power and authorities over their salary payers. Now it is time to clean up and remind them their true responsibilities!!!!
only for a couple decades lol but yes they are out of control
@@kevinjostes8149 no, BK is right police are part of a system that was designed to oppress, the poor, the elderly, those with disabilities and especially minorities.
Yup...The entire purpose of "policing" the population has little to do with actual law enforcement...the practice was only adopted in the 1700's as a way to keep the working class, slaves, and the poor from uprising and to protect the wealthy ruling class and their property...in the US we have the 13th Amendment, which is literally government regulated slavery, and the purpose of the police in the US is to fill prisons with a cheap labor force and extort the working class. They are class traitors first and foremost if they are doing the job correctly...and they are violent thugs and assholes because "the fuck you gonna do about it?"
I hope each officer involved is fired with full loss of any & all benefits earned! Every single case they have ever been involved in needs to be investigated! They all need to be criminally charged & immediately placed into open prison population! I'd like to watch some video footage of how funny they think this is while they each have the entire prison population pop'n their bones! Grrr!! How incredibly disgusting!!!
here in ireland we Irish see this and are sick how could they? i hope justice will prevail. come on America don't let this go it must stop.
They better fire these sick individuals!! This could be your mother or your grandmother attached by these sadistic criminals!! She wasn’t going to hurt anybody!!
True,not a effing fly
Councillor I hope you and your colleagues understand that there is much more than just your Council that is questioning this.
I live in Australia and many of us here have watched it and are amazed how these officers have been allowed to get away with this.
How can a policing system be so bad that they don't care about their own beating up an elderly lady and then leaving her without medical care for 6 hours, even after they knew they had caused her injury?
It's a good question. This has been happening for years before body cameras and new laws that require transparency. Thank the good lawyer for releasing the video publicly.
There should be ashamed l work with people like this discussed
The "police" need to be policed. They are totally out of control. These officers must be criminally prosecuted, incarcerated, and kept off the streets. Of course they should lose their pensions--to their victims.
This is so common it raised no flags in the department till it was public.
Anyone who watches this video of this elderly sick woman who's not even a 100 pounds the thrown to the ground have arm dislocated bruises all over her and think there's nothing wrong with policing in America is insane.
This is exactly be the reason I do not donated to the Police Benevolent Fund or spend a single dollar at Wal-Mart.
Well i can meet you halfway F**k the police funds, and F** the police, but still buying stuff from WallyWorld.
@@StarTrekNerdForever haha...just can't do WallyWorld. I don't have any Donald Duck or fuzzy slippers to wear like they do at the one here.
they should be charged with age discrimination and a age related hate crime!.
Yes sir. We heard the pop. Horrible people. Jail them. Fire them
the giddy laughter of officer Hoff and his two cohorts makes one wonder just who are the real criminals in Loveland???...add to this the absolute lack of care or concern for Karen Garner as she sat injured in a jail cell for SIX HOURS!!! It is simply appalling that an elderly member of our society could be treated this way just to satiate the malignant ego of just one officer. The real issue here is just what kind of police culture can these kinds of police officers exist in the first place??? Almost as bad as the behavior of the officers depicted here, is the fact that this 'use of force' was endorsed up the chain of command. Only once the video footage was released to the public did the police chief even acknowledge the seriousness of the incident and the injuries that Karen Garner suffered at the hands of these thugs. Let alone the fact that Sgt. Metzler signed off on the situation in real time and tried to dissuade a citizen witness...this whole incident just demonstrates how diseased and corrupt policing is in America. Our African American brothers & sisters have been telling us this very fact for decades but now with everything on video we get to see what they've been dealing with for hundreds of years...this should have NEVER HAPPENED IN AMERICA, truly disgusting...
They didnt get fired until the video went viral wow.
How can the city council not have the power to fire city employees? Maybe you start there
Because we have a system of checks and balances.
Police are part of the Executive Branch. They enforce the laws.
City council is the legislative branch. They create the laws.
Chief of Police is an appointed position by the mayor (executive branch). It is not an elected position.
So, what people need to do is vote out the mayor if he is unwilling to replace the chief with somebody who cares about the citizens.
Thats how it is supposed to work.
Mike Hill, if only everyone understood how the system works, then maybe the people could actually understand the power they have in situations like this. But too many are ignorant and are happy to give up their rights.
@@mikerodrigues9091 Well, more specifically they prefer mob rule. It is quite satisfying to get all angry, and while they are taking a poop, bang out some ill-thought tweet.
Much harder to remember the issues, get out in public, make your voice heard, attend city council meetings, and actually vote.
And, when evaluating a candidate, you have to forgo bullshit like what church they go to, whether they think men should be able to get married, and you have to pay attention to things that actually matter.
No, it's much easier to get mad and yell when things dont go your way. Ask any 4 year old.
After watching the council meeting last night, it appears the council is split on believing that abuse even happened!
@@ginaking7939 thats very sad
He's so brave to handle that dangerous and depraved elderly woman. His life was in great peril.
The parents and families of the officers in the video must be so proud of them.
A direct reflection on them all. Anyone that would laugh and gloat about what they did is depraved human being. What a sorry lot.
This is so sad and heartbreaking that these Officers thinks is o.k. to treat a 70 year old like this.
Whatever the amount of damages she is seeking should be tripled at minimum. The officers should loose their police credentials.
The fact the Chief slapped them on the wrist is bad news for him. If they get a high powered attorney it could get worse. No excuse city council Disgusting.
The officers being so happy about their attack on that poor woman show the horrific level of sadism in that department. Nothing less than FIRING all of them in that video is required AND charges filed. The delay in that process is so wrong! It really shows a break down in their humanity.
I called Loveland PD Monday @ 9:46 PM and asked about the beating of this elderly woman and they busted out laughing. I just found out that that call has been recorded. It will go on record as part of this investigation.
Excellent!
Do you remember the Canadian driver who was arrested for driving without a valid license, in Georgia? I called them recently. I was told sneeringly I was "a piece of cake lady." Oh, officer who first answered the phone did not know a Canadian license was legal in the U.S. so they're still not teaching that. Supervisor told me emphatically 3 times that she was "married to the Sheriff" as if that was an official position.
I called Canadian embassy, local newspaper, and the state of Georgia Governor's office. Embassy didn't seem to care, newspaper was interested (made me wonder if they might do a follow-up), Governor's office was deeply embarrassed and said my complaint would be reviewed; I believe them.
Following up on these types of news pieces has become a minor hobby of mine. I suggest it to anyone. Let them know we're watching.
@@veramae4098 you'd think the Canadian embassy would care the most; it's their citizens getting harassed. Sounds like their government is no more competent than ours.
@I win You lose You really ARE a pathetic little ass kisser, aren't you?
@I win You lose let's just ignore you. Your taunts are nothing I wouldn't expect from a crayon muncher😴
@I win You lose Nice try. Not on SS. I'm working every day, dumb ass. FOAD. LOSER!
They should be fired, charged and locked up!
AND BE SOMEBODY'S BITCH!
It was heartbreaking. It was also a sadistic atrocity.
Even if this was a young healthy person, the brutality was not justified.
I can't help but blame Walmart too. They got the $14 dollars worth of junk back before the lady left but they still insist on getting police involved.
Walmart didn't tackle an old woman to the ground.
@@bmanagement4657 Or laugh about it on replay
@@fishheadbreakroom they did refuse to let her pay for the stuff, which she forgot to pay for because she has dimentia. So the blame is shared.
Walmart did what they're supposed to do. Report crimes. You can't blame those folks for the action of bad policing. Mental order or not....people need to be treated fairly. It one thing you arrest a person who just committed a violent act and fleeing police vs petty crimes like shop lifting.
@@MrButchersTube fair enough, thanks jake
The Thin Blue line (Lying) Tyrant Gang members disgusting abuse of this elder is unacceptable! They need to be held accountable including
the police chief who lied too !
Of course we all know they will get Qualified Immunity and get away with it ! 😡
The whole world has seen how America's Police have folks who treat others like this, unacceptable behavior and physical abuse .
Jail time. How in the hell didn’t the chief know. How can you protect a city as a group and not know what’s going on. Worthless force.
Start taking the lawsuit fines from their retirement pension funds and then MAYBE you will actually start seeing some cops get genuinely concerned.
Dude, that's a great idea.
I'm sick of seeing $billions in settlements being paid by insurance companies and taxpayer's $ nationwide because of pigs.
I'm sick and tired of seeing this BS that the cop was "in fear for his life", I'm sick of the cop's Union claiming immunity through that disgusting "Qualified Immunity" clause in their contract. That's gotta stop!
It won't be enough even to pay for lawyers fees !
Would these cops be laughing and cheering if their OWN mother/grandmother was treated this way???
How do you even reform/rehabilitate such a sadistic mentality???
Some fools do attack and kill their own mothers! The man who recently attacked and stomped on the head on an elderly Asian woman had just been released from prison after serving a term for murdering his own morher.
I believe these special idiots would do it to their own mother/grandmother,,,just by the way they acting stupid,,
Law enforcement- The bare, naked face of government. Have a nice day.
Talk talk talk! That's all we ever get, No change! We are oppressed here in America by our OWN so called protectors! There will be a reckoning on this world one day, they won't laugh like that in the presence of Holy God!
I wonder how their own family feels.. probably the same way... they raised them
Fellow cops ONE YEAR later: "Oh, we care now the video is public! We were just about to take action..."
This is what people have been saying all along. The police environment is a broken system. It's a shame that it's only when it gets to this point that many want to now take it seriously. If it were your family member then you would be reactive. Let's be proactive for once and hold the system accountable.
But you see it's not just with blacks
@@skrapenpennies9947 you are what’s wrong with it. You took me talking about the broken system to point out it doesn’t just happen to black people...🙄
@@m.williams.actor7 people don't like to hear the whole story.
@@skrapenpennies9947 Why did you bring race into it. No one mentioned that. This is about our twisted police system! This is what people mean by defunding the police. This was not a job for police. This should have been given to a social worker or mental health worker, perhaps with one officer accompanying them in case of trouble. They should have went to the home to talk to whoever cares for this lady to make sure someone goes with her to the store from now on, and of course make sure Walmart got their friggin 13.00 dollars back!
@@lesedic7836 bc I can. Blacks act they are the only ones the police mistreat. Don't blame me blame the media they are always pointing it out. I'm just telling the side they won't
The mayor when she found about this should have fired the chef, then asked for the arrest of officer hopp and the other officer and demand charges be brought. How could she just sit there and beat around the bush on this issue!
Agree 100 percent
She's a politician. Doing nothing IS the job.
They thought the problem could be buried because Karen suffered from dementia. Now the world knows and is very angry. They can't sit on the problem anymore.
That would have required that the mayor have to do something. Culpability all around.
probably scared of getting shot by a cop. " She was reaching for my gun ! "
If you had do this to my mother l hate to consider the repercussions to the cowards that hurt this old lady. 😠
had to excuse myself for a few moments while watching this... my parents are that age.. I can't imagine having to go through this....
Can you imagine if the victim was that age AND homeless???
Nobody gives a shit.
I'm unhoused, that age and have been hassled by cops. I'm well aware it could be me, and well aware nobody would give a SHIT.
😠😤😖