Here we are in 2019 and the robots don't even consider extending towards the shimari (10:00). Strange how things change. Both katago and leela seem to like approaching at O17, which is saying something when you consider the 3-3 is also open.
at 36:20, where white approaches the kobayashi (r6) and black decides to pincer (which we learn is bad), after white jumps to 3x3 (r3), why doesn't black just extend up to q4 and build a wall that faces his framework? why chose the crazy cut and fighting joseki that ends up with white wall on the bottom?
That reverts into a 4-4 approach and pincer joseki with white getting sente. I guess you could do it.... but it would be a strange result for a 3-4 stone
thanks for the answer. Is that a thing though? I mean - if we have a 3-4 stone first or a 4-4- stone first ... why do we need to remember that as black and find it strange... as long as the result is a nice wall facing where we want to build our framework?
"If you're pincering to prevent the chinese, you shouldn't be playing go." Interesting book, but I will mention that I pincer there a lot to prevent the chinese, simply to get my opponent in positions that they are less comfortable in.
I just don't like the idea of falling way behind in fuseki due to some new thread copied straight from a pro game. I should start playing with it and against it though, just because it's loved and adored by pros everywhere, and so it must be okay...
Here we are in 2019 and the robots don't even consider extending towards the shimari (10:00). Strange how things change. Both katago and leela seem to like approaching at O17, which is saying something when you consider the 3-3 is also open.
Linking that shape lecture you mentioned:
Dsaun Shape Lecture 10 18 14
“He could’ve passed and you’re like, ‘that’s just unfair for me.’” :)
Some Basics from you would by great... Good idea. Thx
Did you ever do part 2?
wonderful! helped a lot!
Part II?
at 36:20, where white approaches the kobayashi (r6) and black decides to pincer (which we learn is bad), after white jumps to 3x3 (r3), why doesn't black just extend up to q4 and build a wall that faces his framework? why chose the crazy cut and fighting joseki that ends up with white wall on the bottom?
That reverts into a 4-4 approach and pincer joseki with white getting sente. I guess you could do it.... but it would be a strange result for a 3-4 stone
thanks for the answer. Is that a thing though? I mean - if we have a 3-4 stone first or a 4-4- stone first ... why do we need to remember that as black and find it strange... as long as the result is a nice wall facing where we want to build our framework?
Thank you! Very infomative and fun :)
Thx for the upload!
nice and clear!
JOY
"If you're pincering to prevent the chinese, you shouldn't be playing go."
Interesting book, but I will mention that I pincer there a lot to prevent the chinese, simply to get my opponent in positions that they are less comfortable in.
Yeah i think it was in kata masao's book on the chinese opening. Slightly different though as that was the low chinese fuseki he was referring to.
I just don't like the idea of falling way behind in fuseki due to some new thread copied straight from a pro game. I should start playing with it and against it though, just because it's loved and adored by pros everywhere, and so it must be okay...
Yeah its good. I pincer for that reason too. ^^
dwyrin
I will continue to play go then good sir.
Kappa