Sennheiser updated the Ambeo firmware to 1.0.237 and also overhauled the Smart Control App. It now supports not only Chromecast, but also Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect and Apple AirPlay 2. They really care about their products.
Your reviews are always so indepth and on point. Can't wait for you to review the Nakamichi Dragon once it's available. I appreciate your tech expertise and knowledge. Respect💪🏾
A bit of a reality check of a review for me because I'm one of those guys who thought the Ambeo was some post human audio technology handed down by the God's. But, as reality sets in, I still think its a great piece of equipment but it has its limitations. It's still the BEST ONE PIECE SOUNDBAR on the market just by that definition alone. I think if you live in an apartment or live in a small to mid-sized space its perfect. Especially if, you don't wish to add additional furniture into your living area. If you want great sound from just one bar, I dont see how you beat the Sennisheisr Ambeo. People living in large homes with high ceilings or, who have dedicated theater rooms shouldn't be in the market for a SOUNDBAR anyway. Comparing the Ambeo to a Dedicated Surround System is unfair an apples to oranges
In the right room the ambeo is the best solution possible without clutter and boxes everywhere. You can’t judge the bar unless you have a solid room otherwise it’s just a bar that sounds good, and this is what people do not understand. They see nothing more than just an expensive barebones soundbar. The ambeo is specifically designed for certain setups - so really, the bar does exactly what it is supposed to do, but it doesn’t fit everyones place correctly.
I was awaiting your next soundbar review hoping it would be the Sony ST5000, but alas it was the Sennheiser. I still enjoyed this video and found it informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
I really love the idea of a simple all in one bar, with no speakers all across the room. Maybe in a few years the technology will be there. I would like to see Sennheiser continue researching this technology and come out with a model that is even better.
You've nailed it perfectly with this review. I owned this ambeo for 1.5 year and this exactly how you discribes it . It can sound rich and perfect with a sub ( i do have one) but if i compare it with the samsung q70r with rears upstairs it never sounds as immersive . It's a strange beast and cranking up the volume does make it sound better. Also all inputs do pass hdr 10+ i tested it with a Dune PRO II on a Samsung Q90r. Thanks !
i agree serge. rears would be nice as ive heard systems with rears before, but for whatever reason i keep being drawn back to the ambeo because of the rich and clean sound. room acoustics play a big part as well
It should be interesting to see how this compares to the new Sennheiser soundbar Ambeo Plus. Changes to speaker design: Top firing: 3.5" full range -> 2" full range Surround (side firing): 1" tweeter -> 2" full range C: 2, 4" woofer + 1" tweeter -> 2" full range L&R: 2, 4" woofer + 1" tweeter -> 4" woofer + 2" full range (Note the two 4" woofers could end up being placed in the center instead of L&R)
@@kingoftheroadc6294 how do you like the sealed sub? Ive been going back and forth if maybe spending the few extra hundred bucks is worth it for a smaller, but effective sealed sub like the 3000. My room is medium sized so no problems there. If you could, try out the movie a quiet place in 4k atmos and tell me how that sub hits. A quiet place has one of the best LFE effects out there and the air really moves you in your seat.
Love your reviews & Humour 🔥 . Do you have any plans of reviewing whole Harman Kardon Citation series (soundbar + sub + rear surround speakers + towers) in the future ?
Great review man! Tks for taking the time to do this very honest video. I think I’m going to get the bar and get the subwoofer you suggested here here. Tks! Cheers mate!
I got this sound bar for free from my neighbor when he was moving out and it sounds really good but I'm not really a audiofile so I think this bar is a good fit for me as I mainly use it to watch movies and TV shows in my room. I got it in 2023 used and as the most regular person this bar rocks. But the price definitely out of my range and I would have never bought it otherwise. 😅
You kind of lost me when I heard a neighbor just gave away an Ambeo for free. It would be nice if you could get rears … it’s also really tall which you kind of have to work around … but good on you for the acquisition … it’s a cool bar
The only argument for the plus (as the bar alone costs about as much as the whole C system [if you can find a good deal] - is that some slick rears will be making an appearance. If you are not planning on expanding the plus then I would go for the C as the rears make such a huge difference in a complete cinematic experience. So if you’re really interested in the plus may be worth holding out a little longer
@@neverenoughtech thank you, very helpful. Would you recommend the Plus if one's not gonna upgrade it with rear speakers? Or would you suggest something else?
@@neverenoughtechhey has there been any word on potential rears being released this year? Loved the review here, I’m torn between the Plus and the Max. Just concerned w the possibility of issues people have experienced with the Max as well as compatibility w Sony TVs.
Timing seriously perfect! Moving out to the woods in May so have been researching soundbars, this one seems to have everything one can wish for, save the price :') Currently debating between LG, Sonos, Samsung & Yamaha Will let you know if I decide to get it!
If you are moving out to the woods this might be the perfect match. The weight and build quality should allow you to prop it against the door to stop unwanted bear intrusion.
This guy is great. Subscribed. Great humor, "ladies". UPDATE After making it to the end I can't help but wonder if this is an advertisement for the Klipsch Cinema 600. He is a very likable guy though.
So if I want the absolute best sound I can possibly get out of a soundbar, I can buy the Ambeo and a subwoofer to pair it with? How does the Klipsch cinema 1200 soundbar stack up against the Ambeo though?
Arguably best sound with consistent babysitting and sound setting tinkering - definitely not best surround or 3D effects. When Klipsch actually releases the dang thing I’ll be able to answer
Diminishing marginal returns.. but I get your point.. for me ...this bar is the best one box solution.. and the best 2 box solution too. Never same as having dedicated speakers, but neat and tidy for those who can't have rears. I have paired mine with svs pb2000. Also it worth noting that this bar is fussy with its placement, need walls for the ambeo to work properly.
i would take this soundbar over any surround soundbar system. the quality alone is worth it - it nearly matches my 5.1.4 klipsch theater setup. ive compared the two extensively - the rears on my klipsch setup of course help and i cant deny that, but when placed appropriately the ambeo gets damn close.
Thanks for that review. Wanted to go for the Samsung HW-Q950T, but was no big fan after several reviews of it. Then started to look for alternatives and found the Ambeo but no honest review (at least other reviews were to enthusiastic to be objective and therefor honest). Will definitely pass the Ambeo though, given you input. Will wait for the new Samsung HW-Q950A and hopefully your review of that. :)
I know I'm late to the party here, but I just watched this video and subscribed to your channel and, well, maybe others will continue to read and write comments. First, thanks for the entertaining and well prepared review! I like that you actually prepare your productions in advance, move things along efficiently, and then edit. And the sound checks are cool and far too rare among UA-cam reviewers these days. You're a pro - Bravo! OK, now some constructive feedback. First, you don't describe the size or dimensions of your listening room and so it's not clear how close your side walls are, how high your ceiling is, and how far back your rear wall is, and all of those supposedly matter - a lot - for this product. Second, while your humor is really fun, your sarcasm can get a wee bit selective. You seem to only grudgingly acknowledge some very real benefits of this bar while really digging into every shortcoming. And, finally, you seem to underestimate the value to many consumers of an all in one product. For some, there's no other realistic choice, while others would be happy to add a subwoofer, or already have one, but have no space or stomach for surround speakers and the extra cabling required. What it comes right down to is whether the high price is justified for the best all in one sound bar available despite it not curing all the world's woes, or whether the inferior alternatives are good enough given their vastly lower prices.
2 scenarios. Soundbar used is ambeo and tv is SONY XR A95( XR-65A95K) 1. If I connect amazon firestick 4k to hdmi in of the soundbar and then tv's hdmi earc port with hdmi out of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable, the sound of, let's say a movie on Netflix, isn't that great. 2. I connect amazon firestick 4k to any hdmi in port of TV. Tv 's hdmi earc port remains connected to hdmi out (earc) port of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable. And then I play movies on Netflix app of firestick 4k. Sound is completely different and better. I tested ambeo with these. In the first setting, even ambeo didn't sound great. What are your thoughts?
How do you compare this with the Bowers and Wilkins formation bar I personally liked the music better with the formation. But this is more versatile and better with movies. I haven’t heard the Nakamichi yet and I’m curious about that vs the formation and the Ambeo
Haven’t heard the B&W yet - somewhat new to this. Nakamichi in terms of fidelity is crap relative to the Ambeo. Nakamichi does create exceptionally convincing Atmos effects for a Sb system, however. It’s stimulating but not nutritious.
@@neverenoughtech thank you for answering so fast. I’m really into the hifi sound so even though the Atmos features are great, the actual quality of the sound would drive me nuts. I reeeeaaaaalllly wish you had a review about the B&W. I’m conflicted. I do love how specific you get with the specs etc. I would have loved an in depth review on all the specs of the B&W. Bummer Thank you though
Thanks for the review ! How does it really sound for music ? I have been so disappointed by the Samsung q900t, I mostly listen to heavy and death métal or watch live concerts and the sound was so flat, I could not find a proper mode / eq therefore I gave it back. I am Wondering if I should pick a cheapiest bar for movies and a real sound system for music instead of trying to cover both usages with one Device. Would love to have your insights on this. Cheers from France
If you are unhappy sound wise with that SB for music, don’t get a SB for music. If you really want peak music and are less concerned about TV sound, I endorse your plan.
No, never got my hands on that bar … my viewers seem to have limited interest in high-priced all in one bars with no expansion options - I also have limited interest as they just can’t compete on the immersive or frequency response front with systems with dedicated components
Minor clarification - you referred to Dolby TrueHD, DTS:X MA, etc. as "uncompressed" audio. That category of bitstream audio does have compression but it is considered "lossless" compression (compared to the "lossy" compression of DD, DD+, etc). PCM and multichannel LPCM (5.1 & 7.1) are uncompressed audio streams.
Okay im gonna hate alittle bit on sennheiser, which is hard for me cause I love them as a brand and I think they’ve made a really great product here but to me once you cross the 2 k price point you’re treading pretty deeply in a I can buy a dedicated home theater setup that rivals/blows away any bar from any brand acoustically. granted i get that a bar is the convenient, all in one package “alternative” to a dedicated system however I just think its a miss for sennheiser considering at the same price you can have a sonos arc, 2 SL’s and dual subs and honestly have a really immersive experience that a single bar just can’t do. I haven’t heard it in person and this is just pure speculation, thoughts? By the way great review..keep it up!
You also have to deal one hdmi input, no dts, and stuck in an ecosystem so no mix and match. Sonos arc is a pure streaming device and i feel it was a miss on their end to make such a brash decision within this era of tech. I cant even plug my apple tv into it. Also, not every tv has eArc - many people still have arc and dont upgrade for years.
@@garretts431 I have an lg C9 with Earc, if you just get a tv with earc you don’t really need the hdmi ins, unless your tv doesn’t have enough inputs for everything
I have a question? Wouldn't the Samsung HW-Q990B 11.1.4ch Soundbar be better than this soundbar that you are showing this video on? I mean the Samsung Soundbar has 22 speakers vs The Sennheiser AMBEO- Soundbar | Max that only has 13 speakers. Now I understand that the Sennheiser AMBEO- Soundbar | Max doesn't come with rear speakers and doesn't come with a subwoofer but still that's not enough to make up the difference between 13 and 22 speakers. even if the Sennheiser did come with a subwoofer and rear channel speakers. So I would have to give the sound to Samsung. But I could be wrong.
I'd love to watch a review like yours on the Yamaha 5600 sound bar monster. With and without using the subwoofer if possible. That soundbar always got my attention for the incredible number of speakers and how they're placed
I have this Yamaha 5600 for 7 years legendary soundbar projector , Amebo is no match with Yamaha, Been 7 years with me and still it surprises me with its dynamic soundstage , never faced any issue since i bought it unlike expensive soundbar which are too buggy and often returned. I personally went to check Samsung HW Q950A at retail and honestly ....after listening to Samsung I am damn sure UA-camrs have never experienced what Yamaha sound projector technology in person. Samsung soundbar's audio was felt coming from the soundbar itself, Yamaha steer its sound like it was coming from TV Screen and from moving object of content.
JBL 9.1 is amazing and the king in it's price range.
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@@Fr4mex thx for info. Yeah, have been watching many many reviews of various soundbars. JBL 9.1 seems to be the best, even tho it lacks some things. I would love a custom EQ for separate channels, or even overall custom EQ, but JBL doesn't have it. And the worst, right now I can't go to any store to check it myself as here where I live they only allow people to get in to pickup orders and go out. IDK... I really don't feel too much like putting all that money in something I can't experience before I buy. Guess I will just wait until things are open again. But anyways, thank you.
Thank you for your review. I still say my Shockwafe is a better sound investment. (Pun intended) It's $1,000 less, and the subs continue to blow me away.
@@mezzb Nice to hear from an owner with an appropriately sized room. I'd likely not use any sound bar myself because I have an open floor plan and a dedicated HT system. But I'm sick of all the components and cabling. If I had a more appropriately sized and shaped room, I would consider this for all HT duty.
Crap I'm that dude that's already all in... I bought this thing yesterday and today I'm trying to justify the purchase to myself LOL Thank you for at least confirming it might be the best soundbar on the market even if the cost to do so is not matching.
That was a great video. Maybe u can help me. I have the full blown 16 speaker, 4 sub a/v system,all with separate power amplification. (I'm old school). I ove the soundbar for convience. If we're not watching a 4k blu ray, we use the bar. Here's my tiff. I currently use the Focal soundbar. Great sound, but even more importantly, I use my own subs! If I've done my homework correctly, only Sennheiser, and the new Bluesound pulse plus have pre out, for our existing subs!! Any suggestions? Thanks!
Well, in my point of view, I think that the ambeo soundbar is the one of the best stand alone soundbar if you own enough space to set it up in your living room, otherwise, the price is another problem if you think it's affordable to you, it's a good choice for you. I bought it and own over 1 years, It's a really good choice for me. I use Xbox one X for Gaming, Netflix and APPLE TV,and the ambeo soundbar for my theater system, my experience is awesome.
This is probably going to be the system I buy to replace the Sonos ARC that has been completely broken by the forced mobile app upgrade on May 7th. I have had nothing but nightmares with my Sonos ever since and I plan to put an end to it...this week. Steam?? Seriously?
Hi, so I didn't understand. Can I or can I not play games with 4k 120 fps ON PC with this soundbar IF my TV supports eARC and my gpu supports eARC? If yes, how will I make the connections? GPU > TV HDMI(slot1) and TV HDMI (slot 2 eARC) > AMBEO MAX EARC?
Number 5 on the first world problems list - "People who ignore Queuing etiquette" - Dead on sir. I actually can't help but wonder if what's happening is that there are people who don't even know there is queuing etiquette.
I’m going to rebut something you said. You said giving the option, the sennheiser or the klipsch system. You would take the klipsch system. Anyone that’s reading this comment. Go to your nearest Best Buy magnolia store and try the two out. Ask the rep if they have a sub attached to the ambeo. Most likely they do. I bet you my last dollar, no one is picking the klipsch over the sennheiser if money is not an option. Because like you said. If you’re stuck and had to have one, you’re choosing the klipsch. Sound quality is not comparable, and left to right 3d effects is no one near as close.
I don’t even remember breakfast all that well much less my comments from over a year ago but I think there is something like an interesting argument whether klipsch 600 with included separate bass module is better sound than Ambeo without. Bar v bar obviously Sennheiser wins. But it’s also advertised as a do it all so buying a separate bass kind of defeats the purpose of that kind of bar. Klipsch does not advertise spatial sound so no arguments about which is more capable on that front
@@neverenoughtech 😂 I don’t remember what I had for breakfast. But if you’re going to spend $2500 on a sound bar. You don’t think you could also pitch in at least $300 for a decent sub such as the one you have? Then that would make that sub bad better than just about any sound bar combination there is. I mean it. I went with the Samsung qn900a(I think, the 2020 top in model sound bar that you recommended) I just didn’t have the funds at the time. But I will get it now.
@@neverenoughtech Thank you very much for responding to that. I've been using the cinema 600 but was stumped on whether or not. I should try the ambeo! You made. My decision that much easier, thanks!
You're criticizing the soundbar when some reviewers say it's so great are you criticizing it because of the price I'm looking for the best all-in-one Soundbar alone money is not a factor is this the best one for music that's what I don't like about reviewers if something's more expensive they criticize it just let me know which one is the best for music I want a loud sound bar that also clear for music
Sennheiser Ambeo or even others, compared: to Sonos ARC with a sub? Sonos ARC with a pair of Sonos 5? ARC with mini sub and a pair of 5s? Audio dynamics: highs, mids and lows? does adding a sub and or Sonos 5s allow the Sonos ARC to be noticeably, cleaner and more dynamic since some of the work goes to other speakers? Or is it just the Sonos software and hardware design that stops it from sounding as good as say a quality pair of studio monitors, like say Yamaha HS8? Room size is 13ft x 19ft and 8ft high I do not listen to rap and do not like too much bass. I listen to all rock, Country Western, Bluegrass,new age, bag pipes, pipe organ, punk, piano, a cappella, metal, I hate the stuff they pass off as music mostly since all the auto tune and gridding of noise/music, or since about late 90s. Most pop "music" today is just cheap and easy to make noise. Country today is crap! Thank you!
@@bassebajs sounds incredible to me after the LPCM update no complaints, that’s coming from a SoundTouch 300, the Sonos is a much better overall 5.1 system when you buy all parts
Sonos is overpriced though - you get similar performance if not better from Q90r or q950t. You will get better performance from q950a. Each of them cheaper. If you want the best you go Ambeo + sub but you will have to pay 50% more for that extra umpf
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Wish JBL would have an app with custom EQ option. Do you hear me JBL!?
price is down. You forgot to consider music when you compared this to the competition. I am betting the Max crushes competition with music and a sub is just $300-$500 add on anyways.
Great sound bar. I’m selling one brand new pristine condition, I want the smaller new Sony to pair with my new A90j , it’s on let go Long Island area. If anyone is interested
It’s so annoying when guys think chicks aren’t into hifi. 🙄 One time I went to buy a receiver with the guy I was dating. Every question I asked was answered focusing the answer towards the guy. Pissed me off. I said to the salesman, excuse me, I’m asking the questions. Direct your answers to me. He has no clue wtf you’re talking about. I do. It’s gosh damn annoying.
@@neverenoughtech ive watched a few reviews on this Sennheiser. Yours had the best detailed information. I see you have a longer one as well... I’m going to have to watch it tomorrow. Thanks for your replies Ps (as a little girl my dad raised me on McIntosh pre-amps, amps, and tuners. He’s the reason for the audio obsession)
@Vibes Now, unlike a lot of youtubers, the video is broken down into sections. Don't want to watch the whole thing? Just watch the bits you want to. For everyone else, I'm sure they appreciate the comprehensive reviews.
I really like your reviews, but I do think your speaking style is hard to watch as it is very un-natural. I assume you are reading off a script. You might want to try using an outline vs a script. Your inflections and tone is up and down throughout your videos. Otherwise, your videos are really well done!
@@neverenoughtech My wife has unreasonable requests as well! I'm holding out hope that you'll eventually review the Klipsch Cinema 1200 and it'll be the single greatest soundbar ever created!
Sennheiser updated the Ambeo firmware to 1.0.237 and also overhauled the Smart Control App. It now supports not only Chromecast, but also Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect and Apple AirPlay 2. They really care about their products.
Your reviews are always so indepth and on point. Can't wait for you to review the Nakamichi Dragon once it's available. I appreciate your tech expertise and knowledge. Respect💪🏾
Appreciate the comment - Yeah excited for the 🔥 ,but I 🤔 about that availability … but 🤞
Did you like his opinion on the Nakaimichi dragon?
I have no plans to get this as it's waaaay out of my price range. But I enjoy your reviews so much I'll watch anyways.
😂 good enough for me
this is the only soundbar i've had that not having rears doesn't bother me (although they are always welcomed).
@Sebastian Bridger hey are you stupid on purpose?
A bit of a reality check of a review for me because I'm one of those guys who thought the Ambeo was some post human audio technology handed down by the God's. But, as reality sets in, I still think its a great piece of equipment but it has its limitations. It's still the BEST ONE PIECE SOUNDBAR on the market just by that definition alone. I think if you live in an apartment or live in a small to mid-sized space its perfect. Especially if, you don't wish to add additional furniture into your living area. If you want great sound from just one bar, I dont see how you beat the Sennisheisr Ambeo. People living in large homes with high ceilings or, who have dedicated theater rooms shouldn't be in the market for a SOUNDBAR anyway. Comparing the Ambeo to a Dedicated Surround System is unfair an apples to oranges
In the right room the ambeo is the best solution possible without clutter and boxes everywhere. You can’t judge the bar unless you have a solid room otherwise it’s just a bar that sounds good, and this is what people do not understand. They see nothing more than just an expensive barebones soundbar. The ambeo is specifically designed for certain setups - so really, the bar does exactly what it is supposed to do, but it doesn’t fit everyones place correctly.
I want the Dragon 🐉
I was awaiting your next soundbar review hoping it would be the Sony ST5000, but alas it was the Sennheiser. I still enjoyed this video and found it informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
Hey man, great review and video. Nice work. Thank you and, keep the good content and well tough out and thorough reviews coming. Be well.
I really love the idea of a simple all in one bar, with no speakers all across the room. Maybe in a few years the technology will be there. I would like to see Sennheiser continue researching this technology and come out with a model that is even better.
You've nailed it perfectly with this review. I owned this ambeo for 1.5 year and this exactly how you discribes it . It can sound rich and perfect with a sub ( i do have one) but if i compare it with the samsung q70r with rears upstairs it never sounds as immersive .
It's a strange beast and cranking up the volume does make it sound better. Also all inputs do pass hdr 10+ i tested it with a Dune PRO II on a Samsung Q90r. Thanks !
i agree serge. rears would be nice as ive heard systems with rears before, but for whatever reason i keep being drawn back to the ambeo because of the rich and clean sound. room acoustics play a big part as well
It should be interesting to see how this compares to the new Sennheiser soundbar Ambeo Plus.
Changes to speaker design:
Top firing:
3.5" full range -> 2" full range
Surround (side firing):
1" tweeter -> 2" full range
C:
2, 4" woofer + 1" tweeter -> 2" full range
L&R:
2, 4" woofer + 1" tweeter -> 4" woofer + 2" full range
(Note the two 4" woofers could end up being placed in the center instead of L&R)
I purchased this on March 14th 2021. I'm eagerly awaiting it's arrival. Pairing it with the LG CX 65" and PS5
I’d buy a quality sub with it to fully take advantage of the bar.
@@garretts431 I got this with a SVS 3000 sub omg it's great
@@kingoftheroadc6294 which 3000 a pb or sb?
@@garretts431 sb
@@kingoftheroadc6294 how do you like the sealed sub? Ive been going back and forth if maybe spending the few extra hundred bucks is worth it for a smaller, but effective sealed sub like the 3000. My room is medium sized so no problems there. If you could, try out the movie a quiet place in 4k atmos and tell me how that sub hits. A quiet place has one of the best LFE effects out there and the air really moves you in your seat.
Love your reviews & Humour 🔥 . Do you have any plans of reviewing whole Harman Kardon Citation series (soundbar + sub + rear surround speakers + towers) in the future ?
on the radar - can't promise
Great review man!
Tks for taking the time to do this very honest video.
I think I’m going to get the bar and get the subwoofer you suggested here here.
Tks! Cheers mate!
I have the soundbar and i am 99% sure has 4.2 bluetooth.
Keep the good work 💪
Grrr. You right. Where did I see 5.0? I’ll correct in description
The comedy in this review is point ! 👌😂
I got this sound bar for free from my neighbor when he was moving out and it sounds really good but I'm not really a audiofile so I think this bar is a good fit for me as I mainly use it to watch movies and TV shows in my room. I got it in 2023 used and as the most regular person this bar rocks. But the price definitely out of my range and I would have never bought it otherwise. 😅
You kind of lost me when I heard a neighbor just gave away an Ambeo for free. It would be nice if you could get rears … it’s also really tall which you kind of have to work around … but good on you for the acquisition … it’s a cool bar
What do you think about the Devialet Dion soundbar?
That bar and the Sennheiser max and plus seems to be the best
Amazing review! I'm still thorn between the Ambeo Plus and the Samsung HW-Q990C. What would you suggest is the best one among the two?
The only argument for the plus (as the bar alone costs about as much as the whole C system [if you can find a good deal] - is that some slick rears will be making an appearance. If you are not planning on expanding the plus then I would go for the C as the rears make such a huge difference in a complete cinematic experience. So if you’re really interested in the plus may be worth holding out a little longer
@@neverenoughtech thank you, very helpful. Would you recommend the Plus if one's not gonna upgrade it with rear speakers? Or would you suggest something else?
@@neverenoughtechhey has there been any word on potential rears being released this year? Loved the review here, I’m torn between the Plus and the Max.
Just concerned w the possibility of issues people have experienced with the Max as well as compatibility w Sony TVs.
Timing seriously perfect! Moving out to the woods in May so have been researching soundbars, this one seems to have everything one can wish for, save the price :')
Currently debating between LG, Sonos, Samsung & Yamaha
Will let you know if I decide to get it!
Let me know ... and I agree the price is not a highlight. Lots of other stuff to like I thought
If you are moving out to the woods this might be the perfect match. The weight and build quality should allow you to prop it against the door to stop unwanted bear intrusion.
Truth
You´re the best! Very thorough review as usual! Now, only the Philips Fidelio B95 is left. I have no idea why it is not available in the US..
And ST5000
This guy is great.
Subscribed.
Great humor, "ladies".
UPDATE
After making it to the end I can't help but wonder if this is an advertisement for the Klipsch Cinema 600. He is a very likable guy though.
Not intentionally … I do like what the 600 offers at the price point
So if I want the absolute best sound I can possibly get out of a soundbar, I can buy the Ambeo and a subwoofer to pair it with?
How does the Klipsch cinema 1200 soundbar stack up against the Ambeo though?
Arguably best sound with consistent babysitting and sound setting tinkering - definitely not best surround or 3D effects. When Klipsch actually releases the dang thing I’ll be able to answer
Diminishing marginal returns.. but I get your point.. for me ...this bar is the best one box solution.. and the best 2 box solution too. Never same as having dedicated speakers, but neat and tidy for those who can't have rears. I have paired mine with svs pb2000. Also it worth noting that this bar is fussy with its placement, need walls for the ambeo to work properly.
i would take this soundbar over any surround soundbar system. the quality alone is worth it - it nearly matches my 5.1.4 klipsch theater setup. ive compared the two extensively - the rears on my klipsch setup of course help and i cant deny that, but when placed appropriately the ambeo gets damn close.
Such a well done, honest review
Thanks for that review. Wanted to go for the Samsung HW-Q950T, but was no big fan after several reviews of it. Then started to look for alternatives and found the Ambeo but no honest review (at least other reviews were to enthusiastic to be objective and therefor honest). Will definitely pass the Ambeo though, given you input. Will wait for the new Samsung HW-Q950A and hopefully your review of that. :)
Rather get the Ambeo over any Samsung soundbars
@@sj7624 Not at that price point ;)
@@sj7624 no one here has heard the ambeo so they judge it based on a review.
I know I'm late to the party here, but I just watched this video and subscribed to your channel and, well, maybe others will continue to read and write comments.
First, thanks for the entertaining and well prepared review! I like that you actually prepare your productions in advance, move things along efficiently, and then edit. And the sound checks are cool and far too rare among UA-cam reviewers these days. You're a pro - Bravo!
OK, now some constructive feedback. First, you don't describe the size or dimensions of your listening room and so it's not clear how close your side walls are, how high your ceiling is, and how far back your rear wall is, and all of those supposedly matter - a lot - for this product. Second, while your humor is really fun, your sarcasm can get a wee bit selective. You seem to only grudgingly acknowledge some very real benefits of this bar while really digging into every shortcoming. And, finally, you seem to underestimate the value to many consumers of an all in one product. For some, there's no other realistic choice, while others would be happy to add a subwoofer, or already have one, but have no space or stomach for surround speakers and the extra cabling required.
What it comes right down to is whether the high price is justified for the best all in one sound bar available despite it not curing all the world's woes, or whether the inferior alternatives are good enough given their vastly lower prices.
2 scenarios. Soundbar used is ambeo and tv is SONY XR A95( XR-65A95K)
1. If I connect amazon firestick 4k to hdmi in of the soundbar and then tv's hdmi earc port with hdmi out of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable, the sound of, let's say a movie on Netflix, isn't that great.
2. I connect amazon firestick 4k to any hdmi in port of TV. Tv 's hdmi earc port remains connected to hdmi out (earc) port of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable. And then I play movies on Netflix app of firestick 4k. Sound is completely different and better.
I tested ambeo with these. In the first setting, even ambeo didn't sound great. What are your thoughts?
How do you compare this with the Bowers and Wilkins formation bar
I personally liked the music better with the formation. But this is more versatile and better with movies.
I haven’t heard the Nakamichi yet and I’m curious about that vs the formation and the Ambeo
Haven’t heard the B&W yet - somewhat new to this. Nakamichi in terms of fidelity is crap relative to the Ambeo. Nakamichi does create exceptionally convincing Atmos effects for a Sb system, however. It’s stimulating but not nutritious.
@@neverenoughtech thank you for answering so fast. I’m really into the hifi sound so even though the Atmos features are great, the actual quality of the sound would drive me nuts. I reeeeaaaaalllly wish you had a review about the B&W. I’m conflicted. I do love how specific you get with the specs etc. I would have loved an in depth review on all the specs of the B&W. Bummer Thank you though
i am thinking off getting the SVS SB3000 or the PB3000 to connect to my Sennheiser Ambeo sound bar....what are your thoughts thx from Canada
Great review. Very thorough.
Ambeo - My first video on this Channel ever. Liked it very, very much. Can't wait you do Devialet Dione.
Thanks for the review ! How does it really sound for music ? I have been so disappointed by the Samsung q900t, I mostly listen to heavy and death métal or watch live concerts and the sound was so flat, I could not find a proper mode / eq therefore I gave it back. I am Wondering if I should pick a cheapiest bar for movies and a real sound system for music instead of trying to cover both usages with one Device. Would love to have your insights on this. Cheers from France
If you are unhappy sound wise with that SB for music, don’t get a SB for music. If you really want peak music and are less concerned about TV sound, I endorse your plan.
In the sound check the Sennheiser sounded very muted vs the Klipsch in the music test.
Thank man for so so straight forward review :)
Did you have an opportunity to compare it to Devialet Dione soundbar? How does Sennhaiser work with listening a music?
No, never got my hands on that bar … my viewers seem to have limited interest in high-priced all in one bars with no expansion options - I also have limited interest as they just can’t compete on the immersive or frequency response front with systems with dedicated components
Minor clarification - you referred to Dolby TrueHD, DTS:X MA, etc. as "uncompressed" audio. That category of bitstream audio does have compression but it is considered "lossless" compression (compared to the "lossy" compression of DD, DD+, etc). PCM and multichannel LPCM (5.1 & 7.1) are uncompressed audio streams.
Appreciate the call out. I did mean lossless. But yup, you’re right that’s not the same as uncompressed.
@@neverenoughtech Nothing so strong as a "call out" :)
Okay im gonna hate alittle bit on sennheiser, which is hard for me cause I love them as a brand and I think they’ve made a really great product here but to me once you cross the 2 k price point you’re treading pretty deeply in a I can buy a dedicated home theater setup that rivals/blows away any bar from any brand acoustically. granted i get that a bar is the convenient, all in one package “alternative” to a dedicated system however I just think its a miss for sennheiser considering at the same price you can have a sonos arc, 2 SL’s and dual subs and honestly have a really immersive experience that a single bar just can’t do. I haven’t heard it in person and this is just pure speculation, thoughts? By the way great review..keep it up!
Completely agree
You also have to deal one hdmi input, no dts, and stuck in an ecosystem so no mix and match.
Sonos arc is a pure streaming device and i feel it was a miss on their end to make such a brash decision within this era of tech. I cant even plug my apple tv into it. Also, not every tv has eArc - many people still have arc and dont upgrade for years.
@@garretts431 I have an lg C9 with Earc, if you just get a tv with earc you don’t really need the hdmi ins, unless your tv doesn’t have enough inputs for everything
@@ruialex314 no one upgrades their tv often unless theyre rich. I have an lg c8 - why would i upgrade again? That’s absurd..
@@garretts431 yeah well not on your case at least, it’s not a system for everybody I have a c9 like I said and I won’t upgrade for many years either
Please suggest a good subwoofer and surround sound rear speakers to go with this soundbar
Did recommend the ambeo or the sony HT a7000?? Or the klips cinema 1200,?? I’m confused!!! Just give a hand !!!!
I’d go 1200 … they seemed to have dealt with the bugs … best value and arguably best full home theater sound of the three
@@neverenoughtech thanks for the fast answer !! Already buying it !! 🔥🔥
I have a question? Wouldn't the Samsung HW-Q990B 11.1.4ch Soundbar be better than this soundbar that you are showing this video on? I mean the Samsung Soundbar has 22 speakers vs The Sennheiser AMBEO- Soundbar | Max that only has 13 speakers. Now I understand that the Sennheiser AMBEO- Soundbar | Max doesn't come with rear speakers and doesn't come with a subwoofer but still that's not enough to make up the difference between 13 and 22 speakers. even if the Sennheiser did come with a subwoofer and rear channel speakers. So I would have to give the sound to Samsung. But I could be wrong.
Excellent review done only the way you can do Daniel!
Appreciate the encouragement!
I'd love to watch a review like yours on the Yamaha 5600 sound bar monster. With and without using the subwoofer if possible.
That soundbar always got my attention for the incredible number of speakers and how they're placed
I have this Yamaha 5600 for 7 years legendary soundbar projector , Amebo is no match with Yamaha, Been 7 years with me and still it surprises me with its dynamic soundstage , never faced any issue since i bought it unlike expensive soundbar which are too buggy and often returned.
I personally went to check Samsung HW Q950A at retail and honestly ....after listening to Samsung I am damn sure UA-camrs have never experienced what Yamaha sound projector technology in person.
Samsung soundbar's audio was felt coming from the soundbar itself, Yamaha steer its sound like it was coming from TV Screen and from moving object of content.
@@SD-oe6vv i have the ysp 5600 with svs pb2000 its insane for movies but i could do better for music but i bought it for movies
In all honesty, Ambeo or JBL 9.1?
Who does Atmos better?
JBL 9.1 is amazing and the king in it's price range.
@@Fr4mex thx for info. Yeah, have been watching many many reviews of various soundbars. JBL 9.1 seems to be the best, even tho it lacks some things. I would love a custom EQ for separate channels, or even overall custom EQ, but JBL doesn't have it. And the worst, right now I can't go to any store to check it myself as here where I live they only allow people to get in to pickup orders and go out.
IDK... I really don't feel too much like putting all that money in something I can't experience before I buy. Guess I will just wait until things are open again. But anyways, thank you.
Thank you for your review. I still say my Shockwafe is a better sound investment. (Pun intended) It's $1,000 less, and the subs continue to blow me away.
Sound/dollar Ambeo may be the worst bar out there ... I like shockwafe for the Atmos
@@mezzb Nice to hear from an owner with an appropriately sized room. I'd likely not use any sound bar myself because I have an open floor plan and a dedicated HT system. But I'm sick of all the components and cabling. If I had a more appropriately sized and shaped room, I would consider this for all HT duty.
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Crap I'm that dude that's already all in... I bought this thing yesterday and today I'm trying to justify the purchase to myself LOL Thank you for at least confirming it might be the best soundbar on the market even if the cost to do so is not matching.
Hey how have you liked the Ambeo so far now? I’m tempted to pull the trigger but wondering about any potential reliability issues.
Well executed nice video. I was all in until I heard the added sub.
Why don't they make surrounds?
They will when they release the next max - I predict
That was a great video. Maybe u can help me. I have the full blown 16 speaker, 4 sub a/v system,all with separate power amplification. (I'm old school). I ove the soundbar for convience. If we're not watching a 4k blu ray, we use the bar. Here's my tiff. I currently use the Focal soundbar. Great sound, but even more importantly, I use my own subs! If I've done my homework correctly, only Sennheiser, and the new Bluesound pulse plus have pre out, for our existing subs!! Any suggestions? Thanks!
Klipsch cinema 1200 has a sub out - from which you can add a second or replace the existing
Well, in my point of view, I think that the ambeo soundbar is the one of the best stand alone soundbar if you own enough space to set it up in your living room, otherwise, the price is another problem if you think it's affordable to you, it's a good choice for you.
I bought it and own over 1 years, It's a really good choice for me.
I use Xbox one X for Gaming, Netflix and APPLE TV,and the ambeo soundbar for my theater system, my experience is awesome.
Get a subwoofer and you’ll love it even more!
@@garretts431 I also bought a 8 inch subwoofer,Klipcsh r-8sw
Solid review 👌
This is probably going to be the system I buy to replace the Sonos ARC that has been completely broken by the forced mobile app upgrade on May 7th. I have had nothing but nightmares with my Sonos ever since and I plan to put an end to it...this week. Steam?? Seriously?
Hi, so I didn't understand. Can I or can I not play games with 4k 120 fps ON PC with this soundbar IF my TV supports eARC and my gpu supports eARC? If yes, how will I make the connections?
GPU > TV HDMI(slot1) and TV HDMI (slot 2 eARC) > AMBEO MAX EARC?
If you’re plugging into the tv the video render has nothing to do with soundbar specs … it’s all up to your tv
Thanks for a detailed and entertaining review.
I appreciate the price per pound figures. I’ve never understood why Best Buy doesn’t market their sound bars like a meat department.
I know right ...???
Number 5 on the first world problems list - "People who ignore Queuing etiquette" - Dead on sir. I actually can't help but wonder if what's happening is that there are people who don't even know there is queuing etiquette.
Ur humorous an funny an a gude presenter for branded produst.like watching u. Ur to detail. Thats What I like about u
Your tech specs explanations are very good though.
Great Review Sir
Hi ! You've got a new subscriber ! I like your video test and the battle you make between 2 products with point match ! so really good ! Thanks !
Can you connect the subwoofer via Bluetooth, or does subwoofer have to be connected with a cable? Does anyone know? Thanks in advance.
With sub out port is all I can confirm ... you can plug in a wireless transmitter
Great review!
You’re the best! Thanks for your honest reviews! Keep up the great work!
Bose 700 or this senissher sound quality wise?
Sennheiser over bose
can i connect sennheiser ambeo max to a pc with a optical output sound card?
I can't confirm but I strongly suspect yes. I think it takes any optical input
I’m going to rebut something you said. You said giving the option, the sennheiser or the klipsch system. You would take the klipsch system. Anyone that’s reading this comment. Go to your nearest Best Buy magnolia store and try the two out. Ask the rep if they have a sub attached to the ambeo. Most likely they do. I bet you my last dollar, no one is picking the klipsch over the sennheiser if money is not an option. Because like you said. If you’re stuck and had to have one, you’re choosing the klipsch. Sound quality is not comparable, and left to right 3d effects is no one near as close.
I don’t even remember breakfast all that well much less my comments from over a year ago but I think there is something like an interesting argument whether klipsch 600 with included separate bass module is better sound than Ambeo without. Bar v bar obviously Sennheiser wins. But it’s also advertised as a do it all so buying a separate bass kind of defeats the purpose of that kind of bar. Klipsch does not advertise spatial sound so no arguments about which is more capable on that front
@@neverenoughtech 😂 I don’t remember what I had for breakfast. But if you’re going to spend $2500 on a sound bar. You don’t think you could also pitch in at least $300 for a decent sub such as the one you have? Then that would make that sub bad better than just about any sound bar combination there is. I mean it. I went with the Samsung qn900a(I think, the 2020 top in model sound bar that you recommended) I just didn’t have the funds at the time. But I will get it now.
good review with lots of info....very funny ...saves me from watching Benny Hill tonight...
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Good explanation
It's on sale for $1999 in January 20 2023 before Superbowl!!!
Finally nice review. It's just good soundbar but nothing special.
Klipsch cinema 1200 or ambeo max?
Klipsch as long as you have all the firmware updates
@@neverenoughtech Thank you very much for responding to that. I've been using the cinema 600 but was stumped on whether or not. I should try the ambeo! You made. My decision that much easier, thanks!
Can you say the best soundbar?
Best SB system sound?
@@neverenoughtech sound
W/Atmos Q950T ... best sound in general Ambeo. I think Klipsch products sound great. Thinking cinema 1200 might win. Sonos Arc is really solid
@@neverenoughtech I have a question, which soundbar is better for extra atmosphere nakamichi shockwafe samsung q90r or senheiser ambeo?
Very good...
these would sell very well if they included a subwoofer for the same price..
You're criticizing the soundbar when some reviewers say it's so great are you criticizing it because of the price I'm looking for the best all-in-one Soundbar alone money is not a factor is this the best one for music that's what I don't like about reviewers if something's more expensive they criticize it just let me know which one is the best for music I want a loud sound bar that also clear for music
Wish I lived in your world where price does not factor into a decision. You’ve transcended markets and capitalism.
Sennheiser Ambeo or even others, compared: to Sonos ARC with a sub? Sonos ARC with a pair of Sonos 5? ARC with mini sub and a pair of 5s? Audio dynamics: highs, mids and lows?
does adding a sub and or Sonos 5s allow the Sonos ARC to be noticeably, cleaner and more dynamic since some of the work goes to other speakers? Or is it just the Sonos software and hardware design that stops it from sounding as good as say a quality pair of studio monitors, like say Yamaha HS8?
Room size is 13ft x 19ft and 8ft high I do not listen to rap and do not like too much bass. I listen to all rock, Country Western, Bluegrass,new age, bag pipes, pipe organ, punk, piano, a cappella, metal, I hate the stuff they pass off as music mostly since all the auto tune and gridding of noise/music, or since about late 90s. Most pop "music" today is just cheap and easy to make noise. Country today is crap!
Thank you!
For the price I would much rather get the full 5.1 Sonos arc system :p so I did...
Correction: for quite a bit less...
How do you like it?
@@bassebajs sounds incredible to me after the LPCM update no complaints, that’s coming from a SoundTouch 300, the Sonos is a much better overall 5.1 system when you buy all parts
@@ruialex314 unfortunately no DTS x support on the arc, especially for that price tag, is a big letdown IMO
Sonos sounds like a tin box
Sonos is overpriced though - you get similar performance if not better from Q90r or q950t. You will get better performance from q950a. Each of them cheaper. If you want the best you go Ambeo + sub but you will have to pay 50% more for that extra umpf
Wish JBL would have an app with custom EQ option. Do you hear me JBL!?
Thorough and honest but not clinical. I like my reviews the same as my speakers.
Would an ambeo with a sub absolutely obliterate the cinema 600? Not that I could afford it anyways.
Best. not obliterate
I’d like but the view count and like count are 690 and 69 respectively, soo I hope the comment will do. Can’t help it. Great content nonetheless.
Well it’s 700/70 at time of this comment ... so I guess there is no stopping the train. Appreciate the comment.
Klipsch sounded better on the sound check. I don't regret my Sonos Arc with Subwoofer purchase.
The sub really helps ... but yeah, I agree
I picked this up £1300 WOW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
price is down. You forgot to consider music when you compared this to the competition. I am betting the Max crushes competition with music and a sub is just $300-$500 add on anyways.
I hope they are clearing it out for Max V2 and some Ambeo surrounds
This soundbar is no where close to Yamaha Sound Projector , do it real life review of these side by side and you will come to know !!
I'm sure within 6 months the price of the ambeo will down to 1500 now its pieced at 2000, let's see"
This bar should be no more than $1800.
Great sound bar. I’m selling one brand new pristine condition, I want the smaller new Sony to pair with my new A90j , it’s on let go Long Island area. If anyone is interested
That klipsche sounds way better
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It’s so annoying when guys think chicks aren’t into hifi. 🙄 One time I went to buy a receiver with the guy I was dating. Every question I asked was answered focusing the answer towards the guy. Pissed me off. I said to the salesman, excuse me, I’m asking the questions. Direct your answers to me. He has no clue wtf you’re talking about. I do. It’s gosh damn annoying.
Funny story - can see why you would be annoyed. Thank you for providing proof my audience is not exclusively guys.
@@neverenoughtech ive watched a few reviews on this Sennheiser. Yours had the best detailed information. I see you have a longer one as well... I’m going to have to watch it tomorrow. Thanks for your replies
Ps (as a little girl my dad raised me on McIntosh pre-amps, amps, and tuners. He’s the reason for the audio obsession)
28 minutes for reviewing one soundbar?
Yup the whole thing in under 30 mins
@Vibes Now, unlike a lot of youtubers, the video is broken down into sections. Don't want to watch the whole thing?
Just watch the bits you want to. For everyone else, I'm sure they appreciate the comprehensive reviews.
Everyone on here is itching to press buy online lol🙄😄
I really like your reviews, but I do think your speaking style is hard to watch as it is very un-natural. I assume you are reading off a script. You might want to try using an outline vs a script. Your inflections and tone is up and down throughout your videos. Otherwise, your videos are really well done!
Yamaha 5600 is better.
$2500 tho!
Yup
You really shouldn't dress up for your videos!
😂😂😂
My wife said a shirt is not optional ...
@@neverenoughtech
My wife has unreasonable requests as well!
I'm holding out hope that you'll eventually review the Klipsch Cinema 1200 and it'll be the single greatest soundbar ever created!
I’m holding the same hope but it would be nice if you know Klipsch would released the darned thing.
@@neverenoughtech Yeah, no doubt!
ambeo sucks v klipsch 600
Lol, klipsch 600 sounds better
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