VFX Artists React to MARVEL Bad & Great CGi
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Probably my favorite detail about the Thanos CGI is that you can see visible stubble on his head
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“She kinda hit the ground”
“ *K I N D A* “
She KINDA DEAD.
Init, KINDA? Her whole funeral scene was cos she hit the ground, the film made it so elaborant
i literally said it at the same time . like, sir, you are tripping
10:25
Stolen comment
Plot twist:
The guys watching this are CGI.
Lol. I half expected one of them to make that joke
Full CGI models lol
Sub if you love Pewdiepie People comment this on everyone of their videos.
You thought CGI experts were real?? No, dude, they are all CGI...
@@Carewolf But wait that's illegal
You can tell the animators for Iron Man's suits looove those suits. So many loving close-ups of all those little moving parts
Watching iron man’s suit is soooo satisfying.
Ok yea
Yeah but not in Infinity War. In my opinion the Ironman suit looks so bad and unreal in Infinity War. In the first and the second Ironman it was just CGI if he's flying or for the details so they matched the real armour with the CG armour.
But in Infinity War it's just made with motion-capture and it looks so bad and unreal.
I coom for all those moving parts and all the little clinks and clacks of the parts fitting together. Tony's first series of armors were the greatest visually. The fluid armor formations were cool but not memorable. When Tony's last armor formed parts from the fluid metal and clinked into place was very nice.
My favorite iron man suit up is definitely the one with the suit case, it was so dope but 2nd favorite is the nano tech that one is really clean
Im still angry that Dr. Strange didnt won the Oscar for Best Visual Effects, it was surreal!
cgi in that movie is too obvious, some doesnt look good, but i enjoyed the movie
The CGI in Doctor Strange was incredible + I don’t care if anyone says this is a meh movie I say this is an amazing movie
@@rocketnike2005 100%, it’s one of the best marvel movies if not the best
But they did won a award tho I don’t think it was an oscar but they did won an award.
After watching the last fight scene in far from home, it makes you wonder how crazy the visuals will be in the next dr strange movie
“She kinda hit the ground”
“kINdA?!?!!??¿¡?¡!¿”
That was hilarious
In the comics the force breaks her neck
I always thought she broke her spine when peter caught her
Hahahhahha
to be fair i didn’t think she hit the ground either until years later lol
like dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet
'SHe kinda hit the ground"
"KINDA!!??"
It'z Krona, I remember watching that scene and having an absolute gut-wrenching reaction to it. That was by far the most brutal death you could’ve expected in a Spider-Man Movie.
Honestly, I don't think she was "supposed to" have hit the ground. The panel of the comics it references, she definitely doesn't, and if the death was supposed to be due to cranial impact, you would expect a shot of him pulling his hand out from behind her head with blood on it (even if they don't explicitly show the wound). I'll give you that going through it frame-by-frame, it certainly looks like she does. But I suspect that's unintended.
10:21
@@Taurusus her hair flattens out on the ground, suggesting she hits and not that it just looks like she might have hit. If a VFX artist did it like that then it was most definitely intentional.
@@Taurusus Yeah in the comics she is thrown off a bridge into the water and spiderman snaps her neck by trying to web catch her. Thus he has an internal debate as to wether he should have webbed her or let her fall into the water.
Need merch that says:
"Look at that neck!"
and
"The pores stretch!"
And "KINDA"
7:30 that looks so good because it's real. The mask is real, the robots putting the mask on him is CG, but they actually made a mechanical Iron Man mask that drops like that. A lot of the Iron Man suit is real too, pretty much just joints are CG.
Edit: I'll also mention that at some point Robert Downey Jr. told Marvel Studios that he didn't want to wear the suit anymore, so it is entirely mo-cap CG for some movies, but the first Iron Man movie has a lot more practical effects than you'd expect from the MCU now.
really???
@@GamesForNoobs Yes
Jon Favreau has a weird career trajectory as a director. In his early years, he was a big champion of practical effects. When I was a kid, I basically fell in love with the effects on Zathura, and that was where I realized how much I preferred it.
Fast-forward to today, and he's known for The Jungle Book and The Lion King, the latter of which was literally nominated for "Best Animated Feature" at the Globes.
@@davidbjacobs3598 really? I mostly know his marvel stuff and didnt he do mandaloriqn?
Probably a bit late to the party here being 8 months later, but wasn't one of the reasons behind him wanting to go full mo-cap because Ruffalo felt a bit ostracized being the only one out of the Avengers group necessitating being completely CG? If I recall correct, RDJ was hugely empathetic towards Ruffalo, because he was made fun of because he didn't "look" like a hero, and RDJ knew of his stature enough that if *he* did something, then others would quickly follow.
I definitely remember Ruffalo being made fun of because he was the only one in spandex with ping-pong balls, around a group of people who had bows, and shields, and guns... I love him as the hulk, and as an actor in general regardless.
here's how you improve that black panther fight if you're under a time crunch: have T'Challa and Killmonger fight against a sunset.
So many problems fixed.
It really didn't need to be cgi. I loved black panther in civil war because his suit was practical and rarely used cgi
@@denzell3460 that too. His suit looks SOOOO good in civil war it was almost jarring in black panther how much of it was digital.
Instructions unclear, can’t see T’Challa and Killmonger due to sun being destroyed
And to add some Bay touch, add a chopper flying in slowmo
@@denzell3460 actually I just learned in civil war while practical what you see on screen is cgi at all times.
"She kinda hit the ground..."
**Now all together now!**
"KINDAAAAAAAAA??!!!"
To his credit, I thhhiiiiink, (don’t quote me) in the comic book, if I recall they do say she breaks her spine from the momentum.. half credit 🤷🏼♂️
@@russlaney actually movie does a "reference" about Gwen's death in comics i.pinimg com/originals/65/3b/b3/653bb33cc63aaf6b1ccfb5d812bd3a61.jpg
Her spine broke
PARASYTE! Does Random Stuff? It wasn’t everybody!
10:25
Me: Wants to become a VFX artist
Also me: sees this video
Me again: nevermind....
If it makes you feel any better, multiple people work on the same thing and add details, so you don't need to get anything close to, let's say, iron man model
Idk you bro but go all in, you never know what you'll achieve
Lets learn together I know a lilbit but look at modeling first and everything else will come after that
That is so me
😂😂😂
Thank you for bringing up the physics of the actual people. In that shot of avengers, he would realistically have passed out from the G's, his organs would have compressed, and he would have serious damage in his spinal column. Or when superman catches someone, the sudden change would most likely snap the persons neck. That's why I like Quicksilver in the X men films. He Braces people before running around with them. He has learned throughout the years to throw things X fast and X hard so It doesn't just explode from suddenly being moved that fast. I especially like the scene where the school explodes. He throws people into water, cushions, anything to break their fall. Really smart.
When the suit catches iron man, it doesn't just stop, but moves on a "rounded" trajectory, so his forces are reduced. He could pass out for sure... But humans can live through a ton of g forces.. in the 1940's a rocket sled test pilot survived over 46G's... The average rate of fall for a human, based on gravity and the drag from the air, make humans fall at around 120mph... So he's not going all that fast. He probably felt 10g's or so, but would live with little or no ill effects.
He is flying in back in a curved line if you look at it. Because first he slowed down with his thrusters from his hand. Then he changed his body position from feet to head falling, to head to feet stand. While he does that there is curve. He switch his foot thrusters on when he is mid curve to standing and flying back. So his organs are not dropping straight instead they are following the curve. So tony would feel the Gs of the momentum but not dye from it. But it is a small curve to be notice.
Niko: She kind of hit the ground
Everyone: KIND OF!!!!
KIND OF!?!?*
Sorta maybe?
It’s based off the comics were it’s spider-mans webs that snap her spin and the filmmakers based it on that and only made close to the ground for dramatic affect so it wasn’t the impact but the web that killed her
Niko was probably thinking of Gwen Stacy's death in the comics, where she kind of dies from whiplash ;)
@@MongoWobbler Kind of?!
Me: *is a new texturing artist at animation studio*
Wren: "The first thing you should learn as a texture artist..."
Me: *drops everything, heart rate increases*
Oh cool well hope that goes well for you
good luck for your carrier
Upload what you come up with if you do it right
Good luck mate!
Luck, mate
Dude the catching people while they’re free falling thing has bugged me forever it’s like jumping into a pool from a 10 story building. Thank you for addressing this
When doctor strange came out, I was absolutely amazed by the FX they had without blur on certain scenes. Amazing.
Thanos close ups are probably the most impressive CG thing Marvel’s done
Dude that scene in infinity war where they were trying to take the gauntlet off his hand ...duude that close up was fucking insane
Deage character cgi:haha.yes but no
Thanos up close is one of the most impressive CGI creations anybody has done.
Agree
@MR FREEZE-98 ahahahahaha nope
Costume designer: The costumes haven't been made yet...
Director: Its ok we'll just fix in post.
Everyone in post: ...huh?
Costume designer: All suits are ready to use
Director: Whatever we are using cg
FTY
That’s assuming that the reason for the CG suits was to “ prevent spoiler leaks”, given that the directors are on record for shit like giving the actors incomplete scripts, and lying to them on set as to WTF they were actually shooting.
All that segment did was make me think about Green Lantern. Smdh. I would like to meet the dumbass that thought it was a great idea to not make a suit for Ryan.
People in post: Who the fuck is we?
Spider-Man’s suit?
Alternate title: Three men freak out over face shadows.
In all seriousness, I actually love when people with professional insight enthuse over details I never would have known to be excited about, whether it's archeologists yelling about buttons and jars, or CGI guys celebrating beautiful shadow work. :)
Watching this two years later is insane. I found this channel as a high school senior and this was the first video I watched. now I'm gonna be a sophomore in college with a one wheel (which I wouldn't have saved up for if I didn't see wren's one wheel videos). life's crazy
"She kinda did hit the ground"
"KiNda??!?!?!?"
Omg i laughed so hard at this moment 😂😂😂😂
I find it funny cause you can actually hear the crack of her head hitting the floor in the movie but they had the video muted xD
Well, part of it is because they changed things from the comoic. In the comic it was pure "Realistic physics". (In part because he frakked up with grabbign her.)
In the movie, well...they made it a BIT more clear she's dead by having him be seconds too late. (In the comic, she was falling face-first, and he grabbed her by the heel, which is implied, possibly incorrectly, to make things SO MUCH WORSE)
I loved that they were so caught up in it they HARD clipped the mic
If you zoom in on the web he shoots to catch her, it turns into a hand as it reaches out. I've always thought that was creepy and kind of dope simultaneously
Same, best part of the video by far.
Iron Man 1's suit is one of Industrial Light & Magic's finest achievements.
So good.
Iron Man 1 has always been one of the ones that impressed me the most and really inspired me for some of my own attempts at composite work.
Then along came Hulk in Avengers, and I was like WHAT... They had an actual Cloth Skin overlayed on the model to make the skin react correctly, his pores were actually part of the scan of Mark Ruffalo, then they added additional pores after the fact!
It's beyond incredible.
When Iron Man broke his fall by blasting away with his thrusters, the first thing I had to think about was the poor people below him. they would've been baked and blasted away at the same time if that much force was directed down at them.
Remember the Messerschmitt 262? That thing of course weighed much more than Iron man, but it couldn't accelerate as fast either... so would it be fair to say the engines have comparable total final thrust to Iron Man's? Anyway, the Me-262 went from being a tail-dragger design to having tricycle landing gear, because it literally melted the runway. You do NOT want to be near the exhaust of a running jet or rocket engine.
EDIT: now I think about it, I wanna see an R-rated version of that scene after all. I know you found better scenes, but Iron Man saving himself could be a masterpiece of unintended consequences.
It was more like saving them too....he wud survive that fall in the suit....but those dudes being squished by a metal suit with that acceleration......they dead. I think they shudhve had him shoot a beam towards his right so he falls to the ground BESIDE them and so he lives n so do they n no physics issue
Nico's sentiment on the Doctor Strange clips really resonate with me. That kind of thing is why I love sci-fi and fantasy. I want to see things I could never imagine.
In the comic she doesn’t hit the ground, the instant deceleration breaks her back....
Rare moments when physics actually makes sense in comics
I thought his webs were elastic?
Sam if we’re speaking with physics then she would still die if they were elastic because elastic stretches and she’d still hit the ground pretty damn hard
@@pablo_supernova not only that, but the web in the middle of her body would make a pressure point holding it, so her legs and head would still "fall" (by the First Law of Newton). To actually save her he would need to shoot webs in all of her body and break the momentum.
It's like throwing something in the air and catching it without moving your hand and moving your hand with the objetct to slow it down
Even though they changed the death from her breaking her neck from momentum to her head physically hitting the ground and breaking her neck from the force of trauma, it's still a very sad way to die I think we all can agree.
"your product doesnt reflect the trouble you went through to make it" thats a quote right there
Video Games in a nutshell
The Thanos CGI in Infinity War was amazing all the way to the very last scene. He looked cartoonish in the last dramatic shots after the snap, but we were already impressed by then and didn't care.
It would be an absolutely incredible tribute if you guys did a remaster of the Black Panther fight scene. It would be insane and practically impossible, but if you did it... Holy crap it would amazing!
Yes
Marvel would hire them for $$$
I think it would be a great tribute to Chadwick. That's a beautiful idea man. Rip king . Wakanda for ever
"She kinda hits the ground."
"KINDA?!"
Best moment ever.
Stolen comment. Oof, now I can't wait for all of the 12 year olds to come screeching at me because of 2 words that I said...
@@ay-leck1369 ??? Sorry didn't know someone already had commented on it, lol.
@@TasjaDH hmmm... I don't know if I can believe you considering the most liked comments are at the top and someone that commented this same exact thing has over 1k likes. That being said, there is pretty much no way that you could've missed the top comment. *Unless*, you didn't even look at any of the comments but so happened to type the exact same thing? Basically, all odds are stacking against you, but whatever I couldn't care less if someone got a load of likes for being a "comment thief". So, I guess I'll trust you for now...
Yeet McGee this was the fourth comment down for me and I haven’t seen the one you’re referring to yet so I’d say it’s possible
@@ay-leck1369 Ever tried to go through comments on a phone? Well whatever.
"Dude, she kinda hit the ground..."
*_"K I N D A ? ! ? !"_*
She didn't hit the ground
Her hair did
I was so sure she broke her spine.
It looks like her neck is so broken to me
Either way, she ded as fuck
It feels like these early episodes of VFX Artists React came out a few months ago. I remember watching these as they were first uploaded and it doesn't feel like it has been this long at all.
Damn watching their first react video after so long really shows how much better they got at editing and recording these videos
Thanos actually does shave. Old man Thanos has a beard
Have you thought how his razor would be?
He'd have one for the flat surfaces on his face (and body) and a different one for this chin.
I imagine a mini plough like razor with multiple heads that get inside each crevice of his chin.
@@Future_Guy ha! 😂
He probably has some kind of a cream he can rub on his face that painlessly dissolves his hair.
It's actually a little disappointing imagining him manscaping.
@@SyzygyNoon seems a bit embarrassing as well
andre byrd At least he does it himself. Ronan the Accuser had a whole team of people to get him ready in the morning. Nothing says “compensating” like an entourage of servants who keep you from having to look in a mirror or touch your own skin. Thanos ain’t no poser, yo.
a good series that gets good views? get your bag corridor
Where's the cow?
thinking this is good LUL they have enough talent to work on a major film that need VFX work to they get enough off their main channel which has more then this channel
also most should not want to live off google their better ways ffs
M4TT YN I mean shit I enjoyed the video, sorry you looked too hard into it
M4TT YN you post Fortnite videos, I don’t think you can determine if something is good or bad
@@christianscrocco5321 saying he makes fortnite videos is being disingenuous. He has two on his channel. He also has Tekken on his channel which is highly commendable. eat dookie butt face
“She kinda hit the ground”
“ *KINDA!?* “
I discovered this channel right when this came out
And I cant be happier I did
I love this channel so much
10:24
made me spit my drink out
"She kinda hit the the ground"
"KINDA?!?!?!"
They had the sound cut but in the movie you hear a clear "bonk" from her hitting the ground, it is very easy to understand that she ded
@@CuT7yFlaM and honestly it was kind of unnecessary, since her spine just folds anyway
In my country, that part was cut so I confused why she died.
I think in the comic she either dies before the fall or from whiplash. But not from smashing to the ground.
@@CuT7yFlaM Not in my country though, they just cut the "hit to the ground" scene and it's not understandable why she killed.
Niko: "Yea well she kind of hit the ground."
Clint and Wren:""KIND OFF!!""
The mic peak though
Hey guys, I noticed that you were mentioning how there was no way to easily stretch the pores in the cgi close up. I know you guys love challenges so it would be sick if you guys could do a video exploring a bootleg technique to map pores onto a face. You guys showed footage of the pores moving so maybe it seems possible to capture the pores moving on film and then maybe get a program to track that movement and transposing it onto a cg model? Anyway, would love to see you guys take these lessons you give us and find ways to put your own corridor digital magic in place to adapt it into your own projects
Im actually going to start studying multimedia, VFX, etc and watching this is so cool to watch and I can’t wait to do stuff like this
I wish they reacted to Dr Strange's "Open your eyes" Scene.
or how the cape was mostly CGI I'm pretty sure the cape was never on him
@@luisanariva3484 there was a cap on him if u watch the behind the scenes of the movie but the cape was more of a real model for the cgi model to stick on and so on etc aaaa too much engineering and programing !!! aaaaaa
HONESTLY
I really don't remember that scene in Black Panther looking that bad
Me neither
But doesn't the shining/glowing come from the suit itself? (I mean the kinetic energy or whatever that is)
Maybe hype possibly made you ignore it
unitedkingdom offiveeyes dude obviously
unitedkingdom offiveeyes we all know why your mom doesn’t love you.
I'm binge watching your videos right now!! I'm a professionnal photo retoucher, but when it comes to movies VFX, I don't know anything. And seeing you react with all the knowledge you have is fascinating!! Well, next stop, the LOTR videos XD Thanks a lot for your work, it's amazing! I'm sharing it with all my collegues at the office!
10:25 Niko you shouldn't have done that:
Niko: She kinda hit the ground.
Wren and Clint Shouting: *KINDA?!*
Had no idea the suits in Endgame weren't real. They did an excellent job with them
Uhhh I mean how else you think they just magically appeared over their other suits
That's kinda stupid and wastage of money, just make the damn costumes.
@@aryavart296 It's impossible to make a realistic costume like that
@eating sugar no papa in Addition to what Hugh said, it is fucking complicated to make these suits look realistic
You would need to have designers, engineers and metal workers work together to create a suit like that and in the end it'd still Look like shit
I thought they were off. The lighting was just odd in some scenes and they looked way to clean. But I was like na they would be dumb enough to cgi suits. That's just a waste of money.
I really appreciate how your attitude to the bad CGI wasn't "We are better than this and this shouldn't have been allowed," but you instead look in detail at what led them to get the results that they did, how it could've been improved and, crucially, why they didn't do that (because of time or budget constraints.)
There's also a sense of awe with the good special effects that some people might omit, and some insight into what makes special effects look good or bad. The quality of commentary here is impressive, and you have a noticeable humility that might be hard to achieve for others. Top quality video, guys.
@nerdtronis141 what?
@nerdtronis141 doesn't respond..
Henry Ambrose I don’t appreciate how they diss the best console. Xbox.
@nerdtronis141 insults aren't criticism, get that through your head.
am I the only one who remembers black panther final fight scene looking WAYYY better
The lighting in the stunt scene before the VFX looks so cool!
These videos are awesome. I'm constantly amazed at what people are capable of doing with technology.
2:28 imagine all the cuts Thanos must get every morning as he shaves that wrinkly chin
Infinity razor
He has all 6 stubble stones
Was this his true reason for the gems? He just wanted a close shave? And he made up the "balance to the universe" bullshit as an excuse?
He has a custom made razor
A razor would probably break before it cut his skin if Iron Man could barely touch him lol
He shaves with the infinity razor. You put all six stones in the razor, and it gives a perfect shave.
Perfectly shaven, as all things should be.
Even with all the stones, the perfect shave doesn't exist
His actually sponsored by Gillette
Mort i mean just remove the head. No more stubble.
*Shields and cools, before and after the shave.*
When Niko talks, everybody listens.
Agents of Shield would be a great thing to react to
"Your final products doesn't represent the trouble you went through to get to that point"
Truth
Wow scary.. I read that EXACTLY when they said it
@@Dentheman1995 same
@@Dentheman1995 SAME LOOOOL
10:26
“Ehh she kinda hit the ground”
*“K I N D A ???”*
That was funny!!
This is some top notch content, thanks for sharing your insights fellas!
Iron Man suiting up is the first time I ever forget that CGI was a thing and was just like, "Yep that's a real Iron Man suit."
Maybe the effects of DCU, especially that infamous mustache removal.
Edit. thx for the likes! Feeling rich now XD
YES! MCU is the best thing to happen to humanity.
@@vb8428 your existence gives me a fucking headache
@@vb8428 holy shit dude maybe take a break from the internet and chill out lmao
@@its1899 couldn't have said it better myself, lol 😂
Yass!
10:24
"ok,she kind of hit the ground..."
*K I N D O F ?!*
😂
she smacked full force, brutal to see
All I can hear now is the sound of a baseball hitting the sweet spot on an aluminium bat...
If that what "smacking her head from falling" defines "kind of"
Then a punch to the face means "a gentle tap" to him.
10:24 Niko: "she kind of hit the ground."
Clint and Wren: "KIND OF?!"
The average terminal velocity for a human is around 120-140 MPH of course depending on the persons weight. The average human can take 6g's for about 3 seconds before blacking out. Certain pilots without Special suits can take more but average pilots can take up to 9 with special suits mabey more. The highest G-force experience ever survived was 214 but that was horizontal not vertical which humans have a higher tolerance for. A pilot in a rocket sled took 46.2 but i don't know if that was vertical or horizontal plus he was properly strapped in since it was a rocket sled. Now with all that in mind say he went from 140 to 0 in the span of human visual reaction. That would be around 25 G's how he does more of a very tiny loop at the bottom so I would not say he stopped in 1 second but I would say it was slower than human visual reaction at 0.25 seconds. At double human visual reaction that is 13 G's, at three times that is 8 g's And at 1 second that is 6 G's. Now if I had to guess due to that small loop form he does at the bottom i would say around double so 13 G's and if his suit inside is anything like a fighter pilots G-suit he could definitely withstand that kind of force and even if he couldn't that would only be within black-out range not death range as they say. This all while considering there are people who have jumped out of planes and had chutes not pop and end up surviving (with huge injuries) after hitting the hard ground without a small loop.
Why Lord of the Rings looks so much more realistic vs Hobbit
I think it's because older movies that tend to be on shorter budget to what we get now, manage to simplify scenes in a way it looks good enough to be real, compared to new ones in which as you become more ambitious bc of the money input, sometimes you end complicating things more and end up with results that don't look so believable. We've here in Argentina an example called El Secreto de sus Ojos, half of it it's edited but it looks real, because scenes were pushed to looks right even with low budget
Hobbit had higher FPS than 'normal movies' which messed with motion blur, also the artists had lots less time in the hobbit because there was so much more cgi to make, so rather than 'Does this look the best it can' it becomes 'is this good enough that we can get away with it'
Yes yes yes!
@@daanvandongen1422 motion blur can be recreated digitally if thats the problem, and every 3d movie is actually 48 fps.
I think one of the reasons is that the orcs were almost all people in costumes in LOTR while in The Hobbit they were all CGI.
“His aorta would rip from his heart”
Not to mention that he would’ve burnt the skin off the people who he was above when he started flying....
well he has an stark reactor iron man has no heart tbh but please correct me if im wrong
ShiroBolic he only had the reactor to create a magnetic field to keep shrapnel from entering his heart from a previously incurred injury. He gets the reactor removed in the third movie and used it as a battery for his suits.
in ALL of the iron man movies, you see him shrug off falls and weapon impacts that would actually be fatal. something doesnt have to breach his suit to kill him. and on that note, we dont really get to see how strong the armor actually IS - we never see him shot with anti-armor weaponry. lots of explosives and rifle-caliber bullets, but no shaped-charge or sabot rounds. stand him in front of an abrams main gun, and he would have a hole blown straight through him.
later suits can be hand-waved better with him adding better (presumably active) protection. note the scene in civil war where rhodey's iron patriot suit gets its power knocked out and the injuries he takes from his fall.
YES! Also, not to mention he was just thrown through laminated glass that is an inch or more thick and remained conscious and mostly unscathed
The aorta thing, I think the suit uses the same tech as his repulsors (hand cannons) to absorb trauma and stuff, so it's plausible, without the suit he's only human!
I think about that each time I watch that
Really loved this video! Great stuff
Coming here back before they hit 100 episode, wow what an awesome journey of critics, technology & creativity
LoTR trilogy. Even after all this time, I can't believe how much of those movies is just CG. I'd love your take on how they achieved it. The Extended Edition bonus materials is an absolute goldmine of information about their practical effects mixed so skillfully with cutting-edge CGI (for being made in the late 90's / early 2000's). They really do not look outdated even today.
For sure , would love to see that
It was an ingenious combination of practical and cgi. when the heroes were sword fighting orcs in close up shots they were real actors in amazing makeup and costumes. CGI was mostly used for long establishing shots to show us scale and numbers. Jackson knew cgi up close at the time wasn't great (Gollum being the exception where they put a ton of work into just him and even then he looks dated now in some shots.) so when they used it the camera was far away. For shots of armies they would have the first few lines of soldiers be actors and then as it gets further away they used cgi for the rest which gave a realistic feel of scale (Game of Thrones has used this as well which is why their battles look astounding).
LoTR had a lot of practical effects. F.e. to make the Hobbits look small, they build the sets in weird angles, so filming from a specific perspective make them look smaller than Gandalf.
In the Hobbit trilogy Jackson just said "fuck it" and made everything a green screen with shitty CGI.
Agreed. It's absolutely astonishing that the CGI in the LoTR trilogy still holds up almost two decades down the cinematic road. There are a couple wonky shots, for sure (Legalos and the oliphaunts, anyone?), but only a few. The rest are simply golden and often look better than most CGI scenes in films today (my jaw still drops just seeing the Balrog swathed in flame).
The biggest problem with modern films is that the people in charge don't care for them anymore. Using LoTR as an example, Building all these sets and thinking about ways to film scene s in a certain way to help with the post-CGI requires thoughts and work.
But Jackson didn't care for the Hobbit, those movies were nothing but a cash grab, so he went "well, can't we just do that scene in front of a greenscreen and put in all the stuff later? i want this shit wrapped up before 5 o'cock"
It's not a matter of time in most cases and the CG is sometimes even more expensive than building sets, but if you're a lazy director, its a blessing for your movie.
I agree, the Iron Man series had really good CGI.
Except Iron Man 2's final battle with Ivan Vanko. Ivan's head was terribly animated. It looked like it was cut out of a video and just placed on top of the scene
Henry and then you see those really good effects next to the floating head that is civil war
ChainZ I agree, that was one thing I didn’t like. Other than that, the effects were on point.
first time i’ve seen someone acknowledge Gwens head hit the ground... THANK YOU
2:10 yes. He does. With a Fork
I love how tese videos aren't just reactions but educating us on certain topics that other film makers don't talk about
Exactly. Hate reaction videos, but love these
Yes! Please increase the educational sections if possible.
Do an episode about cgi used to de-age actors. (Jeff Bridges in Tron: Legacy, Michael Douglas in Ant-Man, Sam Jackson in Cpt. Marvel, Carrie Fisher in Rogue One, etc.)
I really thought the Civil War Tony Stark deage was the first one they did that was super believable. All the other Marvel deages after that have been miles ahead of what anyone else has done imo.
P.Sherman Johnny depp in the last pirates movie
Carrie Fisher did not act as Princess Leia in rogue one.
Guardians of the galaxy vol 2. Quills dad?
john travolta in Gotti
They are talking about the physics of Gwen dying, when I sit here blanky thinking I could survive jumping out of a plane and jumping off a chair before I hit the bottom.
Ever since I started watching these videos, every time I watch a movie, or show, I just pay attention to the smallest details, and I can see how good it looks, or how bad it looks, and I try and figure out how they did it, I want to be a VFX artist or an engineer, I love you corridor crew
This channel is starting to make me feel like they're teaching me to become a professional VFX artist ...
...they are...
Then we all have to stick around
dont know if you're joking, but that's actually what the channel was about before it turned into the corridor crew. Back when corridor was corridor digital this channel was here to show you how they did the effects they made and other helpful tips and tricks. Not just for VFX but film making in general.
True
React to your own VFX and elaborate on what you could improve and etc!
thats a good idea
Great idea!
cheap video but fuck it but hey they would own all material
I just rewatched the first Avengers movie and oh boy does that movie look splendid! I'd love it you guys did a breakdown of the vfx from first Avengers
10:21 I wish they'd commented on the VFX in _this_ scene! I think it looks pretty good, plus the colour choices are great!
Can you do lord of the rings vs. the Hobbit? Would love to know your thoughts on the production differences
Samuel Glover this x100000
Samuel Glover yes!! Do this please!
@Joshima M They'd take that into account. I think in the first VFX react video they compared the two briefly
@Joshima M To be fair though, technological advancements aside, a vast majority of people would agree that LOTR is visually more appealing than The Hobbit. Take the Cave troll in Fellowship for example; that troll is a whole lot more convincing that Azog in the Hobbit.
Well Lotr is 80% practical effects. The 20% had loads of time dedicated to making it look good. Rather than the Hobbit, which was 70% cgi, and therefore had less time to properly polish it all, so Gollum looks amazing, but the white orcs don't.
10:24
"I mean she kind of hit the ground"
KIND OF?!?!?!
That's a lot of likes, thx
*KIND OF!?!?!?!?!?*
@@dogeguy4207 synchronized call out as well.
Look at that neck snap! Hueugh!
There's NO WAY that's a closed head wound with that much force either. THAT'S the real magic of CG, they'd have to CG the back of her head back on.
I spent 5 minutes looking for this video just to watch that one part 😂
-Wren:
"It's not quite human enough to fool you into believing that they're trying to make him human."
-Me:
"What?"
Please make a part 2 of this! 😍
I love these videos. A 16 minute video felt like 5 mins. What about a Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter VFX critique?
I’d love a Harry Potter. And also a Fantastic Beasts one
I’m always amazed at how realistic the suit in iron man looks, especially considering it was made in 2008
I thought I had heard that some scenes in that movie were made with a real non-CGI suit
@@jurasticbork8878 Yeah, and a dude at the studio stole them, they were three or two i dont remember lol
I think he looked the most realistic in the first Avengers
That movie generally had great cg
Had to do with the fact that hey used less CGI since they actually made a suit. There are a few videos on it. One of the main reasons the first one will always be my favorite.
Davy Jones is still one of the most impressive fully CG character that's ever been put to film, and those films came out in 2006/2007. Especially considering the amount of complexity involved with the realistic tentacle beard and human-amphibious skin tones.
The sound design sells Thanos so much!!! When he touches his face. If you listen. You can hear his hand rubbing across the stubble. It stood out to me all day
It’s really super subtitle. Too!
9:50 that Arc Reactor must have a lot more thought behind it than we previously thought.
Black Panther looked great in Captain America Civil War
Yea for the most part
M A yeah cause in civil war it’s not fully cg
they just enhance it with cg, the suit is real
I'm usually am one of those people who instantly notices whats cgi, atleast big cgi stuff, not little blurred objects in the background. But I had no idea, black panther attacking bucky on the roof was 100% cgi, because that looked so real.
M A The end fight in Black Panther looks like a fucking cartoon.
@@zZiL341yRj736 We all know that. They already explained why in the video.
8:20 The suitcase is as heavy as the suit, but it's supposed to be a lighter suit. Thinner plates and less armour than a regular Iron Man suit, can't fly as high or as fast, no weapons beside the basic repulsors, etc. It's like the stripped-down travel version of Iron Man armour.
Exactly, Its an Emergency Armor.
It’s the only way for Tony to keep that muhfuckin’ *thang* on ‘im
I still don't think it's light enough for a thin built person like Pepper to yeet with one hand.
ButterdCrump3ts i think you mean ‘comic book movie’
Actually it can't fly at all
When Wren made the comment about how fast Iron Man stops and turns around in Avengers I was sooooo happy, because I made the exact same note when I watched that movie.
For Animators react:
1. Monster House (2006)
2. Klaus (2019)
VFX Artist React:
1. I’m Blue ( Eiffel 65 )
In the comics, Gwen Stacy actually did die from snapping her neck when Spider-Man caught her with a web.
Yes, and that's exactly why she did break her neck in this one too. Her body gets folded 80 degrees before she hits the ground, she was dead before the head was hit
Oh i thought she broke her spine
@@ronimausanti9625 It's kind of hard to tell for sure. My guess is they at least considered having her neck just 'snap' from the catch, but a lot of audiences were probably confused as to whether she died or not. Especially since most, if not all, big budget movies have characters live through sequences like that. The only way to make it clear would be to very graphically show her next snap from the whiplash with loud sound effects on top...which may have been a bit much for the tone of the movie.
@@mattschemmer3091 If you re-watch the scene, you can hear her spine snap.
Dude that was painful. That’s the type of clap a pro spiderman player does
KIND OF!!!!! - The perfect synchronization.
You guys are really good at this
Tron:Legacy its a 2010 movie that looks INSANE
ToxicAlchemist yea
I was just gonna suggest the same movie
My cousin is Justin Springer one of the Producers of that movie has a whole IMDB page about him and everything we aren't close but we are related!
YES
Except for the young Jeff Bridges face. That hasn't aged well
Henry Cavill's mustache in the justice league
SaBpro Gamer link?
lOl
Love these, you should do Jingle all the way
Great vid!! For a movie to look at ( not sure if you have yet ), it would be great if you could look the cgi work to The Last Starfighter and maybe re-creat the "deathblossom" scene..
How does Thanos shave the complex form of his chin
Nair
He uses dollar shave club.
Zeta Thanos getting those coins with his dollar shave club sponsorship
Shaving a scrotum is not that hard
He uses a garden rake
10:26 *“kINDA?!”* lmao, you guys are great
That was an awesome moment
15:00 Literally every Marvel fan when trying to talk to someone who doesn't watch Marvel lool.
Can't believe this series has been going on for 3 years now, I remember watching this the first week it dropped. (Not sure if I saw on the first day) but man where has the time gone.... 😕