Good video! For the people who don't want to put threaded inserts in the cover. If you measure it right, the holes will line up with the webbing in the inside of the sidecover giving you plenty of aluminum to thread m6 or 1/4 threads in.
good video. i converted my XS to hydraulic decades ago ..( bike now has 89 thousand on it ) .. got ride of cable stretch and worm gear wear etc . neutral when hot no trouble now , Honda smooth gear box LOL i used a home made braded brake line , CBR 1100 black bird clutch and slave cylinder and a cut down one piece triumph 900 trident push rod.... ive done this mod for a few people now,,,, transforms the bike .
I don't know the total length. Length will depend on how you space out the slave cylinder and how deep your counterbores are. Rod length was determined as stated in vid at about 8:05, by marking where the rod touched the case and doing some arithmetic. Then some length fine-tuning was done at about 17:00.
Your pull is easy because you probably have a long lever pull on your worm gear, which means the push rod doesn't move much, which means that you're never going to be able to find neutral when stopped or the engine's hot.
@@handspiral can you elaborate on this further? your comment implies that any stock xs650 would have difficulty finding neutral when stopped or when the engine is hot, and I believe it's safe to say these bikes do not have a particualr reputation for this issue (or at least, certainly no more than any other UJM of the period.) While I tend to find modifications like this interesting and don't think you have to defend it, I do think things get a bit slippery when you DO provide a reason and it's demonstrably not a very good one.
@@mjohnson5108 I have had many XS650s pass through my hands. Difficulty in finding neutral when stopped or the engine is hot is well documented. Yes, they DO have a reputation for this issue. Yamaha used three different cable attachment points on the worm gear lever arm. The first was a short arm. These bikes have a hard pull. They tried a long arm. Easy pull, hard to find neutral. There is an in-between length which I think they settled on. The very early models have a slightly different worm gear that does not interchange with later years, and the cover anchor point for the spring is different. It appears that Yamaha knew they had an issue, but IMHO, they never found a good-working solution. They also changed from a one-piece steel push rod to a two-piece rod, one rod being steel, the other aluminum. This was intended to better match engine expansion as it got hot. It helps.
I know this was 2 years ago but this is absolutely incredible...Thank you for sharing this with us..I am going ot have to do this to my bobber..-John
Thank you!
Good video! For the people who don't want to put threaded inserts in the cover. If you measure it right, the holes will line up with the webbing in the inside of the sidecover giving you plenty of aluminum to thread m6 or 1/4 threads in.
good video. i converted my XS to hydraulic decades ago ..( bike now has 89 thousand on it ) .. got ride of cable stretch and worm gear wear etc . neutral when hot no trouble now , Honda smooth gear box LOL i used a home made braded brake line , CBR 1100 black bird clutch and slave cylinder and a cut down one piece triumph 900 trident push rod.... ive done this mod for a few people now,,,, transforms the bike .
You are a legend! Amazing mod, and love the skateboard seat!!
Not a legend, but thanks a lot, it's the funnest XS650 I've owned.
This is a beautiful bike!
Maybe I missed it but what is the total length of the rods?
I don't know the total length. Length will depend on how you space out the slave cylinder and how deep your counterbores are. Rod length was determined as stated in vid at about 8:05, by marking where the rod touched the case and doing some arithmetic. Then some length fine-tuning was done at about 17:00.
Why? clutch pull is very easy
Your pull is easy because you probably have a long lever pull on your worm gear, which means the push rod doesn't move much, which means that you're never going to be able to find neutral when stopped or the engine's hot.
@@handspiral can you elaborate on this further? your comment implies that any stock xs650 would have difficulty finding neutral when stopped or when the engine is hot, and I believe it's safe to say these bikes do not have a particualr reputation for this issue (or at least, certainly no more than any other UJM of the period.) While I tend to find modifications like this interesting and don't think you have to defend it, I do think things get a bit slippery when you DO provide a reason and it's demonstrably not a very good one.
@@mjohnson5108 I have had many XS650s pass through my hands. Difficulty in finding neutral when stopped or the engine is hot is well documented. Yes, they DO have a reputation for this issue.
Yamaha used three different cable attachment points on the worm gear lever arm. The first was a short arm. These bikes have a hard pull. They tried a long arm. Easy pull, hard to find neutral. There is an in-between length which I think they settled on.
The very early models have a slightly different worm gear that does not interchange with later years, and the cover anchor point for the spring is different. It appears that Yamaha knew they had an issue, but IMHO, they never found a good-working solution.
They also changed from a one-piece steel push rod to a two-piece rod, one rod being steel, the other aluminum. This was intended to better match engine expansion as it got hot. It helps.
No---dont do !!!
You aren't kidding about "rust bucket".
Not just a rust bucket... it's the Super RustBucket
Looks so mickey mouse
Looks bad