So mental health issues caused her to allegedly shoplift high end items but she was perfectly fit to serve in public office up till now? Come on now...
Is Green party a trustworthy party? I recalled the media has questioned James Shaw' s qualification and Chloe's smoking of cannabis, that prove their integrity.
Her mental health problems didn't show up going through security at least twice for her Christmas overseas trip? Must be the Only When Needed Mental Health Problems so Fashionable now.
She doesnt need to steal she makes enough money to buy stuff. It's obviously a mental health issue such as kleptomania, so give her a break. It is disgusting that them media are smearing a person with obvious mental health problems.
She didn't blame Israel and racism? I'm shocked! BTW hundreds of thousands of Kiwi's have very stressful jobs and don't deal with it by going out committing crimes.
She is sooooo sorry - that she got caught She is a thief who took advantage of her privileged position, and then played victim as an excuse for her inexcusable behaviour
"I am stressed, therefore I steal designer clothes." How about just admitting this was opportunism and moral failure? Plenty who struggle with mental illness do not resort to felonies. This excuse is a disgrace.
@@somewhereinnz: Do all mentally unwell people steal? Should we feel sorry for those who steal, whatever their reason? If you can find a 'good enough reason' to steal, does that make theft okay? Why is nobody talking about the actual victims here (the store owners stolen from)? What you say raises further - rather troubling - questions.
I have been stressed to the max watching Cindy unleash her lunacy on the nation for the last few years and I didn’t go to mitre 10 and steal their wheel barrows .
Exactly, the level headed NZer's have been very stressed at the destructive force of the previous govt and its coalition. 6 years waiting for the rest of NZ to wake up.
Playing the mental health card. Disgusting and shameful. A reprehensible human being trying to use the " I am a victim" excuse. Just slither back under your stone. The police.process and investigation will produce a charge and a judge will assign a punishment. I hope this will be fitting without any whitewash. Our mps need to held to account to the full extent of the law. Not a time for compassion just justice for the criminal.
As a mental health nurse and psychotherapist for 30 years, I can assure you that her pattern of offending does not square with her excuse of (unnamed and nonspecific) mental health issues. Theft due to mental health issues would either look like walking out of the shop with something openly in your hands (due to not being aware of what you're doing), or something very bizare (like attempting to hold up a bank with a obviously fake plastic gun by handing over a deposit slip for them to deposit the money into your account and then being picked up by the police while you walk home - because you are hoping to be punched on the nose by a police man so that you can get a nose job on ACC because you think don't like your nose and can't afford to get a nose job - because you have schizophrenia and are on the invalids benefit). Those are the two types of theft you get from mental health problems. The distracted/accidental, and the frankly bizarre. Golriz explaining her shop lifting away as mental health (non specified mental health) sounds an awful lot like an excuse. Also, won't she be debarred from practicing law for breaking the law?
I have seen a very similar case of an MP in Canada shoplifting and likewise leaving Parliament. I'm sure it's some sort of self-destructive impulse, perhaps part of the complex of motivations it takes to be an elected politician.
Don't believe her apology, not one word of it. Just trots out the excuses and then says don't want to hide behind it. Tells everyone to leave her alone after she spent her time in Parliament telling us what to think.
There seems to be a pattern. Stress. Kiri, Tory now Golriz.Perhaps it’s necessary to look into the levels of psychopathy and narcissism in these people? And perhaps not enough life experience? Imagine 16 year olds running the show?
She didn't look unwell at the Pro Palestine protest.. 🤔 If she knew she was stressed which could have led to her alleged crime.. Why not step aside earlier? Just like TW of Wellington.. She knew she was having issues, but with the myriad of health/support groups available, she chose to power on and embarrass the council.. 🤔
from the River to the Sea all my clothes i get for free.... yeehhaaaa taking her long planned overseas trip which she booked flights for the day before she left I bet hahahaha
It is stressful to suddenly find yourself without an income - Golriz however gets no sympathy from me. I found myself in that position, quite suddenly, when my marriage ended and my ex-husband made me redundant and removed all financial support for me and our two children. It was also lockdown. I was distressed. I was traumatized. I was enduring endless psychological and financial abuse. Yet I did not steal and I did not lie. Golriz is entitled and disingenuous; a product of the ideologies she promotes.
There was a similar case in Canada twenty years ago or so, involving a very well known MP. I think it's a psychological problem... pretty strange. It's a self-destructive impulse, but why it affects politicians I don't know. Sad case.
All we get as the NZ public is excuses from a thief who just got caught, it shows what sort of person she really is to show such contempt and disrespect to all of us, How long has this been going on? is there more to come?
They didn’t notice in the greens amongst a past benefit fraudster, a leader who fakes qualifications and a racist misandrist. Fitted in there very well. And don’t forget she wanted us to believe she prosecuted war criminals when in fact she was defending them. Jeanette Fitzsimmons would turn in her grave.
Her wiki page has every excuse …Iranians don’t go to Malaysia for holiday ( they go to apply for refugee status) …from Malaysia if you are Iranian you don’t go to Fiji 🇫🇯 for holiday - it’s a back door way of entering NZ/ Auckland stopover and claiming refugee status …and never going onto Fiji for holiday - absolute lies. ( and yes many decades ago I worked at NZ Immigration ) If I hear mental health excuse/card again …I’m jumping off the harbour bridge 😬
Refugee status, over-funded by the tax payer, we all know. List MP, well overfunded by the taxpayer, we all know. Polly's are on the highest welfare rate. Those on a benefit should stand for Parliament and join the rest of them. You don't have to be the brightest, you just have to have a big mouth and be clever when tempted with the the allure of frilly dresses. Mental stress does not cut it, or that excuse work. She is simply a thief.
Get ready to jump mate cause you are going to hear it for sure.....its a weak excuse for weak so called privileged people,she got caught never thinking she would cause in her mind ..she is more privileged than the under privileged....NZ gave her a future and a life and she did what she did......amazing...no excuse whatsoever.
If she has done this three times I am a hundred percent sure that she may have been doing this over a longer period of time than just from October 2023. Even if you go back a decade or two, you will find she has been doing this.
This kind of nonsense is exactly what people are so sick of and can’t stand any more. - pretending that we all need to sympathise with and support a criminal as if she is a victim - keep pushing people to believe that she has taken the full responsibility by saying sorry and quitting her job when the penalty for such crime she committed is many years in prison. - pretending that everything is a mental health issue. Golriz, you should know that how you act under stress is your true character. Everyone can act decent when they are happy and relaxed. If you have to steal when you are under stressful situation, that is your character. You are a thief. That is what you are. Own it. Accept it. Apologise for stealing. And improve yourself from that point.
Footage of the shoplifting reveals a cold calculated and deliberate persona with the deft casual touch of a seasoned pro. Doesn't look anything like the behaviour or body languange someone stealing as a result of "mental health issues" caused by extreme stress and trauma would portray...
Well at least she got one last overseas holiday at the taxpayers expense. People who shop using 5-finger discount make prices higher for the rest of us.
In the 1970s-80s when I was a police constable, we used to search the homes of people who shoplifted. I wonder if that is still the case. It would be interesting to see if there's more evidence and whether there's a pattern of dishonesty that disproves her claim of a behaviour that is not her fault, rather it being a manifestation of stress and trauma.
Not to mention getting actually locked up for pinching Moro bars from Warehouse...... fingerprints.....photo.......DNA taken. PRN allocated. Crim for life. Wonder when she's hitting the cells? 🤔
She's mentally fit and well after her overseas trip, but she's banned from shopping locally. Watch out New World in Ponsonby keep those security cameras on whatever you do.
For someone claiming to be suffering from mental health issues due to stress from the pressures of her position as an M.P, then perhaps she should have taken stock of herself and taken time off to reaccess whether or not she is still up to the task. She only has to look at how Kiri Allen's career went completely off the rails and crashed spectacularly badly.
@@heathercreighton9613 the current government was only sworn in on December 5th. Pretty much just before they took off for the holidays. That means she barely spent any time in opposition before her crimes. Secondly a back bencher is used to describe an opposition member that isn't a front bench spokesman for the opposition. She was the Greens Justice Spokesman.
We all have mental health problems with family, financial or other personal issues. We don't all resort to theft. I can say she's done the right thing so good on her
She only resigned because she got caught red-handed. If there was no CCTV footage, lefties would have been in denial and called it fake news. Banned and silenced those who dared to speak up. And hats off Scotties, who looked beyond their own liberal left-leaning views and brought the truth to us public. The Nation owes them.
What a stupid comment. She grew up in New Zealand from the age of nine, and you can be sure she's thoroughly educated as a Kiwi, with the added advantage of one or two other languages.
Unfortunately the complaints about stress at Parliament and being an MP are undone by the fact we have just had an election. If it was genuinely so horrific then why did she return rather than gracefully stand down at the end of the last parliament and say: "I don't want to do this anymore and I want to move on."
I’m sorry for the poor shop owners and staff, having to deal with this it’s actually their trauma. Having to deal with a person of power furtively but deliberately stealing their stock. She’s evidently got away with it before, It’s hard enough these days working and running a business so it took guts to follow up, wonder how many businesses couldn’t face the follow up trauma and let her, go that’s probably what emboldened her to repeat offend.
She drags the Greens down by deflecting her guilt onto a fantasy of metal health. She is unrepentant and muddies the morals and virtues of the Greens. But their faithful probably believe her bs.
A Minister should have a good character, be sober and a good teacher of the Word of God, they are only representatives not Ministers, Ministers are in Churches
At least she may be able to be convicted as she may have been discharged without conviction as the consequence of losing her job would have been out of all proportion to the crime. Other high profile politicians and sports people have relied on this argument to get off. She did have an opportunity to come clean when confronted but refused to open her bag. Another opinionated person who is busy trying to change the world but is blind to their own short comings.
Guilty then! It has nothing to do with money, theft is deceit - she probably gets a kick from it. Sick person who needs help. May she NEVER have any job of authority anymore!
As the New Zealand Herald is a balanced group of journos telling the news straight and without bias I am expecting the GG story on the front page today to have the title "Thief".
My hubby predicted she would play the victim card. She's had way more privilege than most! I can't believe she earns over $160,000 plus the thousands of dollars in perks!
She was already earning big money before becoming an MP. She was a high profile lawyer before entering parliament. She probably took a pay cut to become an MP.
She's not well because she got caught!! You are 100% right yet again Michael. The last 6 years will have been the best of her life. Reeks of extreme perverse privilege. The use of mental health as an excuse starts in schools where kids know that to get away with just about anything, you pull the mental health card.
Police haven't charged her yet? are they going to? and does it take Police so long to charge a shoplifter? and is there a double-standard and can we expect non-Mp shoplifters that shopleft less than $100 to not be charged as well?
A New Zealand MP's basic salary is $160,000-$180,000 per year, so you'd think shoplifting wouldn't be necessary. I guess she might get a job as a human rights lawyer.
I'm sure MSM said that she got back yesterday (Monday) they were standing outside GG home - James Shaw & Marama Davidson have been talking with her since she got back....on Saturday- Obviously so they could come up with a plan/ Bullshit excuse
Marama Davison's statement " Our selection process is robust" should be more of a concern. I was in the greens about 12 years ago and witnessed first hand them allowing ex NZ diplomat to the UN dovetailing it's agenda onto theirs. The process maybe robust but the people enforcing it certainly are not in fact I think they have lost their moral compass.Cheers
Well. I thought the greens would fight this. You know. Fight for whats right and all that stuff. River to the sea stuff. Yeah where is her shopping buddy Chloe? She's always the first to say something.
The last possible chance to salvage anything, she fucked it up by playing the mental health card. I would probably still had some respect for her had her came out just apologised without any excuses...
It's relief that her mental health issue so far only effected her related to getting five finger discounts from upmarket expensive boutiques leaving the small guys alone like Two dollar shops, Cracker Jacks, Uncle Bill. Second Hand shops. Always thinking about the struggling small retailers and going after the big fish.
Let me try to work this out. She’s a lawyer and a member of Parliament and she hasn’t worked out that there are security cameras in most shops nowadays. And a committee of Parliamentarians drafted the statement. My concern is not with the shoplifting but with the quality of members of Parliament. Folks I think we’re in trouble.
We shall see what she does in the days to come. If she did something bad three times, this is shameful on her for someone who worked as a lawyer and a member of Parliament for a long time. But I think there is something else behind this. Anyway, let's see and wait for what comes out.
Metiria Turei could also have used the excuse of the stress of single parenting and poverty for benefit fraud when she stepped down as co leader but at that time it 'mental health' didn't have the cachet it now has.
Spin, spin, spin .... looks like we're all taken to be fools ... so the people who put her in parliament were responsible for her state of mental health which led to what she had done and got caught out. Does she have to pay back to the taxpayers her salary and perks she had received and enjoyed ... so the ninety days probation in the work place has its first casualty in parliament and how ironic it comes from the green party who opposed this policy.
Isn’t this the women who attacked Todd Muller in the media because he had a MAGA hat as part of his political memorabilia? Did she ever stop to think about what her actions did to his mental health?
Brilliant comment. So many of us take things on the chin (but feel a bit annoyed we have been abused some way) . I worked for a international hi tech company (based in USA) in which I was under intense pressure for 33 years. I can't remember stealing stuff from shops here in ChCh as a response.
Do we have a right to complain if a NZ public figure commits significantly large multiple thefts and doesn't receive the equivalent punishment that anyone else would get? What are the legal obligations of our justice system? Can the justice system pick and choose who has to obey the law and who gets punished?
It'll be interesting to see how things pan out. We at least have a chance there may be some small consequence for Ghahraman with the current government. I suspect that under the previous government there would have been far more pressure to let her get away scot-free.
@@nzreggae2534 Sadly, that's how it worked out under the last lot. Uneven application of the law is disgraceful. We'll see if the current crowd leave the Justice department to do it's job without interference.
I've watched all the press releases about this, and the following is the paraphrase I've gleamed from them all. "I don't mean to excuse my deplorable behavior, but you'll have to excuse my deplorable behavior. I have mental issues that motivated me to steal expensive items. I will not speak of this to anyone, ever, unless such time as I can profit from speaking about it." Does that mean that now ALL people who steal expensive items can use mental health as an excuse, and perhaps as a gateway to lessened punishments? Asking for a friend...
Stealing in a country that gave her a place to live.
exactly
Can't we deport her 501 style
Good point. Deport her
Hands choppy.
hilarious and poignant@@darwinbruce59
So mental health issues caused her to allegedly shoplift high end items but she was perfectly fit to serve in public office up till now? Come on now...
Is Green party a trustworthy party? I recalled the media has questioned James Shaw' s qualification and Chloe's smoking of cannabis, that prove their integrity.
@@lengho6294 Green and Labour are woring for the WEF
Are we supposed to believe all those excuses from a thief? Only got ‘mental health’ problems because she got caught.
Her mental health problems didn't show up going through security at least twice for her Christmas overseas trip? Must be the Only When Needed Mental Health Problems so Fashionable now.
Any GP will sign off a mental health issue.
They cannot diagnose without months of therapy. So yeah, easy to obtain.
it was unrecognised trauma that made her do it
But she said she's sorry.
(Sorry she got caught, for the third time)
She doesnt need to steal she makes enough money to buy stuff. It's obviously a mental health issue such as kleptomania, so give her a break. It is disgusting that them media are smearing a person with obvious mental health problems.
Of course the mandatory "mental health" "I'm a victim" woke excuses come out
Worked for Kiri Allen didn't it ?
Nz is woke tho... bunch of naive fools in our country
@@felixyoghurt3291 true take all advantages you can
"stressed out from being in Parliament" 🤣She was in opposition to government, all she did was mud slinging , hardly stressful 🤣
She didn't blame Israel and racism? I'm shocked! BTW hundreds of thousands of Kiwi's have very stressful jobs and don't deal with it by going out committing crimes.
Those thousands of kiwis weren't on $167,000 like her either.
She is sooooo sorry - that she got caught
She is a thief who took advantage of her privileged position, and then played victim as an excuse for her inexcusable behaviour
"I am stressed, therefore I steal designer clothes."
How about just admitting this was opportunism and moral failure?
Plenty who struggle with mental illness do not resort to felonies. This excuse is a disgrace.
She was wealthy enough to have no need to steal. She clearly wasn't doing this for material gain, but because she was not doing well mentally.
@@somewhereinnz: Do all mentally unwell people steal? Should we feel sorry for those who steal, whatever their reason? If you can find a 'good enough reason' to steal, does that make theft okay? Why is nobody talking about the actual victims here (the store owners stolen from)? What you say raises further - rather troubling - questions.
@somewhereinnz or she liked stealing. Yes, it's a real thing.
I have been stressed to the max watching Cindy unleash her lunacy on the nation for the last few years and I didn’t go to mitre 10 and steal their wheel barrows .
Exactly, the level headed NZer's have been very stressed at the destructive force of the previous govt and its coalition. 6 years waiting for the rest of NZ to wake up.
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Exactly
Good call. 100%
As a white man, I feel I am to blame for this.
I apologise to the nation.
"I'm just being a Commie, redistributing the wealth, you know."
- Sum Dum Phuk, 2024
Playing the mental health card. Disgusting and shameful. A reprehensible human being trying to use the " I am a victim" excuse.
Just slither back under your stone.
The police.process and investigation will produce a charge and a judge will assign a punishment. I hope this will be fitting without any whitewash. Our mps need to held to account to the full extent of the law. Not a time for compassion just justice for the criminal.
As a mental health nurse and psychotherapist for 30 years, I can assure you that her pattern of offending does not square with her excuse of (unnamed and nonspecific) mental health issues. Theft due to mental health issues would either look like walking out of the shop with something openly in your hands (due to not being aware of what you're doing), or something very bizare (like attempting to hold up a bank with a obviously fake plastic gun by handing over a deposit slip for them to deposit the money into your account and then being picked up by the police while you walk home - because you are hoping to be punched on the nose by a police man so that you can get a nose job on ACC because you think don't like your nose and can't afford to get a nose job - because you have schizophrenia and are on the invalids benefit). Those are the two types of theft you get from mental health problems. The distracted/accidental, and the frankly bizarre. Golriz explaining her shop lifting away as mental health (non specified mental health) sounds an awful lot like an excuse.
Also, won't she be debarred from practicing law for breaking the law?
I have seen a very similar case of an MP in Canada shoplifting and likewise leaving Parliament. I'm sure it's some sort of self-destructive impulse, perhaps part of the complex of motivations it takes to be an elected politician.
Yeah , this is all about getting discharged without a conviction against her name so that she can practice as a lawyer .
Complete crock - and an insult to people with true struggles with mental illness
Also she seems to shoplift only from upper end shops. Hmm
She needs a nose job. Its huge
Don't believe her apology, not one word of it. Just trots out the excuses and then says don't want to hide behind it. Tells everyone to leave her alone after she spent her time in Parliament telling us what to think.
It sounded like the apology you give when you don’t give an apology. In other words, she didn’t apologise to anyone.
Haha the "claytons" apologie. If you know what "Claytons" was
"From the river to the sea, all my shopping will be free'.
Genius
There seems to be a pattern. Stress. Kiri, Tory now Golriz.Perhaps it’s necessary to look into the levels of psychopathy and narcissism in these people? And perhaps not enough life experience? Imagine 16 year olds running the show?
its all just spin from the green party spin doctors.
Excuses from them all ,cover ups to get out of charges throw the book at her, and jail
Excuses from them all ,cover ups to get out of charges throw the book at her, and jail
I’d rather not.
All weak leftarts
She didn't look unwell at the Pro Palestine protest.. 🤔
If she knew she was stressed which could have led to her alleged crime.. Why not step aside earlier?
Just like TW of Wellington.. She knew she was having issues, but with the myriad of health/support groups available, she chose to power on and embarrass the council.. 🤔
She's not a thief, she is "unwell" meaning it is "not her fault" or something. The apology which isn''t.
Don't step aside till caught
@@mr2981 excuses, excuses, excuses.
from the River to the Sea all my clothes i get for free.... yeehhaaaa taking her long planned overseas trip which she booked flights for the day before she left I bet hahahaha
@@hapeta24 LOL
Make her pay back the businesses, reimbursement to the taxpayer considering investigation costs etc, then deport her permanently.
That is exactly what should happen but I’m also sure that it probably won’t. 👋🏼
Here here.
One does not deport citizens...
Also, return the 160K she takes home each year for serving nothing for NZ.
I doubt she’ll go to court and if she does she’ll be discharged without conviction. Orders will come from above.
It is stressful to suddenly find yourself without an income - Golriz however gets no sympathy from me. I found myself in that position, quite suddenly, when my marriage ended and my ex-husband made me redundant and removed all financial support for me and our two children. It was also lockdown. I was distressed. I was traumatized. I was enduring endless psychological and financial abuse. Yet I did not steal and I did not lie. Golriz is entitled and disingenuous; a product of the ideologies she promotes.
Good and she needs to be prosecuted for theft. Not try and use mental health to get less of penalty.
Absolutely 💯
Thanks Michael, so refreshing to hear someone not scared to tell it like it is👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Was a good listen for sure.
It is a strange world when some one who is paid well with our tax dollar resorts to theft.
It’s not to do with whether she’s rich or poor - it’s a character fault.
There was a similar case in Canada twenty years ago or so, involving a very well known MP. I think it's a psychological problem... pretty strange. It's a self-destructive impulse, but why it affects politicians I don't know. Sad case.
Yes it is, and you know what, can't manage her own personal budget, but she wanted to manage the country's budget. Best rid, I say.
yes while most families struggle to put food on the table these MPs get well paid with all sorts of freebies etc
Kleptomania
All we get as the NZ public is excuses from a thief who just got caught, it shows what sort of person she really is to show such contempt and disrespect to all of us, How long has this been going on? is there more to come?
Narcissistic entitlement no less, which also prevents her taking personal responsibility.
"it wasnt me, it was my issues fault". this was narcissism. she didnt think shed get held accountable, it was a thrill flexing her privilege
Poor Golriz has no integrity whatsoever.
They didn’t notice in the greens amongst a past benefit fraudster, a leader who fakes qualifications and a racist misandrist. Fitted in there very well. And don’t forget she wanted us to believe she prosecuted war criminals when in fact she was defending them. Jeanette Fitzsimmons would turn in her grave.
Well she did resign so she has a smidge of integrity...Just a smidge.
@@shadowbanned5164 Maybe the evidence was so overwhelming, she didn’t have a smidge of choice.
Just like,the party she is a member of
A thief is a thief and any excuse will do.
Her wiki page has every excuse …Iranians don’t go to Malaysia for holiday ( they go to apply for refugee status) …from Malaysia if you are Iranian you don’t go to Fiji 🇫🇯 for holiday - it’s a back door way of entering NZ/ Auckland stopover and claiming refugee status …and never going onto Fiji for holiday - absolute lies.
( and yes many decades ago I worked at NZ Immigration )
If I hear mental health excuse/card again …I’m jumping off the harbour bridge 😬
Refugee status, over-funded by the tax payer, we all know. List MP, well overfunded by the taxpayer, we all know. Polly's are on the highest welfare rate. Those on a benefit should stand for Parliament and join the rest of them. You don't have to be the brightest, you just have to have a big mouth and be clever when tempted with the the allure of frilly dresses. Mental stress does not cut it, or that excuse work. She is simply a thief.
Get ready to jump mate cause you are going to hear it for sure.....its a weak excuse for weak so called privileged people,she got caught never thinking she would cause in her mind ..she is more privileged than the under privileged....NZ gave her a future and a life and she did what she did......amazing...no excuse whatsoever.
NZ backdoor to Oz
If she has done this three times I am a hundred percent sure that she may have been doing this over a longer period of time than just from October 2023. Even if you go back a decade or two, you will find she has been doing this.
Correction: she got CAUGHT three times. How many times she got away with it is probably what encouraged her to keep doing it.
This kind of nonsense is exactly what people are so sick of and can’t stand any more.
- pretending that we all need to sympathise with and support a criminal as if she is a victim
- keep pushing people to believe that she has taken the full responsibility by saying sorry and quitting her job when the penalty for such crime she committed is many years in prison.
- pretending that everything is a mental health issue.
Golriz, you should know that how you act under stress is your true character. Everyone can act decent when they are happy and relaxed. If you have to steal when you are under stressful situation, that is your character. You are a thief. That is what you are. Own it. Accept it. Apologise for stealing. And improve yourself from that point.
Footage of the shoplifting reveals a cold calculated and deliberate persona with the deft casual touch of a seasoned pro. Doesn't look anything like the behaviour or body languange someone stealing as a result of "mental health issues" caused by extreme stress and trauma would portray...
If she did not get caught , she would have carried on . How long has she been doing it . All the while sitting in moral judgement on the rest of us.
A refugee from Iran who sympathizes with Hamas, which is supported by Iran. What else is there to say?
Well at least she got one last overseas holiday at the taxpayers expense. People who shop using 5-finger discount make prices higher for the rest of us.
In the 1970s-80s when I was a police constable, we used to search the homes of people who shoplifted. I wonder if that is still the case. It would be interesting to see if there's more evidence and whether there's a pattern of dishonesty that disproves her claim of a behaviour that is not her fault, rather it being a manifestation of stress and trauma.
There certainly is a pattern. A third allegation has just come to light.
Not to mention getting actually locked up for pinching Moro bars from Warehouse...... fingerprints.....photo.......DNA taken. PRN allocated. Crim for life.
Wonder when she's hitting the cells? 🤔
@@paullee6890omg really 🤣🤣🤣 wow !
They won't do that because it could be seen as 'raysissed.'
@@Amy_Housewife8809what you talking bout Louis?
Her Mental health has got excellent taste in clothing.
I’d investigate all of the Greens MP’s , if it’s a mental health issue , they are prime candidates .
She's mentally fit and well after her overseas trip, but she's banned from shopping locally. Watch out New World in Ponsonby keep those security cameras on whatever you do.
For someone claiming to be suffering from mental health issues due to stress from the pressures of her position as an M.P, then perhaps she should have taken stock of herself and taken time off to reaccess whether or not she is still up to the task. She only has to look at how Kiri Allen's career went completely off the rails and crashed spectacularly badly.
Mental health my arse. It's #1 in the PR playbook.
Mental health could be used as an excuse for any crime. How stressful can it be to be a backbencher?
She wasn't a backbencher.
@@almac9203she was after this last election.
@@heathercreighton9613 the current government was only sworn in on December 5th. Pretty much just before they took off for the holidays. That means she barely spent any time in opposition before her crimes. Secondly a back bencher is used to describe an opposition member that isn't a front bench spokesman for the opposition. She was the Greens Justice Spokesman.
It must have been 'climate change' that caused all her stress.
We all have mental health problems with family, financial or other personal issues. We don't all resort to theft. I can say she's done the right thing so good on her
But how long was she doing the wrong thing before she was caught out at it?
"Done the right thing"? Only because she had no other option...
She only resigned because she got caught red-handed. If there was no CCTV footage, lefties would have been in denial and called it fake news. Banned and silenced those who dared to speak up. And hats off Scotties, who looked beyond their own liberal left-leaning views and brought the truth to us public. The Nation owes them.
Chloe was with her, which is why they're scrambling.
exactly, where's that story ?
Really?
Imagine Chloe being implicated as well🤔
Chloe returned the stolen goods a few hours later
Honestly people like Golriz speak english, But the way they think is warped, Almost like they dont live in the same reality as the rest of us
What a stupid comment. She grew up in New Zealand from the age of nine, and you can be sure she's thoroughly educated as a Kiwi, with the added advantage of one or two other languages.
They are ideologues who preferr living in their echo-chambers, raging at anyone who disagrees with them.
Talking about mental health issues, is there anyone in the greens that doesn’t suffer from mental health issues?
Mental health? Have some backbone and stand to your actions.
Unfortunately the complaints about stress at Parliament and being an MP are undone by the fact we have just had an election. If it was genuinely so horrific then why did she return rather than gracefully stand down at the end of the last parliament and say: "I don't want to do this anymore and I want to move on."
I’m sorry for the poor shop owners and staff, having to deal with this it’s actually their trauma. Having to deal with a person of power furtively but deliberately stealing their stock. She’s evidently got away with it before, It’s hard enough these days working and running a business so it took guts to follow up, wonder how many businesses couldn’t face the follow up trauma and let her, go that’s probably what emboldened her to repeat offend.
The Green Party Spin doctors have been working hard to come up with that excuse
Not so hard
She drags the Greens down by deflecting her guilt onto a fantasy of metal health. She is unrepentant and muddies the morals and virtues of the Greens. But their faithful probably believe her bs.
Good two to go 👏👏no excuses 🛑
3 not 2. dont forget the young girl
Will she be charged is the real question.
This is a Character deficit .So important that people that are at such Levels of influence are Beyond reproach!
There'd be very few left if that were the case.
A Minister should have a good character, be sober and a good teacher of the Word of God, they are only representatives not Ministers, Ministers are in Churches
She is pretty racist Im not sorry at all to see her go.
Karma can be a beautiful thing.
not unusual playing the victim game
At least she may be able to be convicted as she may have been discharged without conviction as the consequence of losing her job would have been out of all proportion to the crime. Other high profile politicians and sports people have relied on this argument to get off. She did have an opportunity to come clean when confronted but refused to open her bag. Another opinionated person who is busy trying to change the world but is blind to their own short comings.
The UFC fighter was discharged without conviction twice. Drunk driving and driving whilst his licence was suspended.
I agree with you Michael
Yup….i know myself….whenever i feel depressed …i always get the overwhelming erge to steal stuff😂😂😂😂😂
Sticky fingers can turn the lights off when she leaves. At this rate, the Green party will have nobody left in the office by the end of the year.
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We should be so lucky.
We can only hope....
We will all be able to use this excuse when ever we break the law.
yes, its great leadership from our politicians. banana republic here we come
Guilty then! It has nothing to do with money, theft is deceit - she probably gets a kick from it. Sick person who needs help. May she NEVER have any job of authority anymore!
She has been shoplifting for a long time, this is the first time she has been caught shoplifting.
As the New Zealand Herald is a balanced group of journos telling the news straight and without bias I am expecting the GG story on the front page today to have the title "Thief".
This was never followed up by the Greens after the Wellington event because with the election looming, this would have cost them votes
The election was on the 14th October. Her offending was on the 26th October so your theory doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.
Thankyou Michael, succinct and to the point.❤
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Fantastic comment
" Alas my love you do me wrong.Greenthieves was my delight". All together now.
My hubby predicted she would play the victim card.
She's had way more privilege than most! I can't believe she earns over $160,000 plus the thousands of dollars in perks!
She was already earning big money before becoming an MP. She was a high profile lawyer before entering parliament. She probably took a pay cut to become an MP.
Did you say she "earns" it?????
@@almac9203 Maybe not. Remember that MP's have a huge amount of costs met by the taxpayer in addition to the salary.
She's not well because she got caught!! You are 100% right yet again Michael. The last 6 years will have been the best of her life. Reeks of extreme perverse privilege. The use of mental health as an excuse starts in schools where kids know that to get away with just about anything, you pull the mental health card.
Police haven't charged her yet? are they going to? and does it take Police so long to charge a shoplifter? and is there a double-standard and can we expect non-Mp shoplifters that shopleft less than $100 to not be charged as well?
Our police are useless. They cant do anything but hand out speeding tickets.
Thank you for voicing the clearest response to her resignation we are likely to get.
She was stressed which could have led to her alleged crime… expensive clothes only????
How many shopliftings make a person a kleptomaniac ? I hope she is charged and duly sent to prison.
My 30 year marriage failed this year, and my father also died, I didn't go out and rob any high end retail stores lol
A New Zealand MP's basic salary is $160,000-$180,000 per year, so you'd think shoplifting wouldn't be necessary. I guess she might get a job as a human rights lawyer.
I'm sure MSM said that she got back yesterday (Monday) they were standing outside GG home - James Shaw & Marama Davidson have been talking with her since she got back....on Saturday- Obviously so they could come up with a plan/ Bullshit excuse
A pathetic end to her political career. No matter what you thought of her beforehand.
Shoplifting; not the first time she's done it, but the first time she's been caught.
Marama Davison's statement " Our selection process is robust" should be more of a concern. I was in the greens about 12 years ago and witnessed first hand them allowing ex NZ diplomat to the UN dovetailing it's agenda onto theirs. The process maybe robust but the people enforcing it certainly are not in fact I think they have lost their moral compass.Cheers
The last Green Party lady also stole from the welfare system .
Maybe it’s their criteria ??
I’ve been under extreme stress many times in my life and I don’t go out breaking the law and blaming that. I deal with it
Now hopefully the rest of the greens join her.
Well. I thought the greens would fight this. You know. Fight for whats right and all that stuff. River to the sea stuff. Yeah where is her shopping buddy Chloe? She's always the first to say something.
The last possible chance to salvage anything, she fucked it up by playing the mental health card. I would probably still had some respect for her had her came out just apologised without any excuses...
It's relief that her mental health issue so far only effected her related to getting five finger discounts from upmarket expensive boutiques leaving the small guys alone like Two dollar shops, Cracker Jacks, Uncle Bill. Second Hand shops. Always thinking about the struggling small retailers and going after the big fish.
Let me try to work this out. She’s a lawyer and a member of Parliament and she hasn’t worked out that there are security cameras in most shops nowadays. And a committee of Parliamentarians drafted the statement. My concern is not with the shoplifting but with the quality of members of Parliament. Folks I think we’re in trouble.
We shall see what she does in the days to come. If she did something bad three times, this is shameful on her for someone who worked as a lawyer and a member of Parliament for a long time. But I think there is something else behind this. Anyway, let's see and wait for what comes out.
And like clockwork the greens blamed "online trolls" for her crimes.
Metiria Turei could also have used the excuse of the stress of single parenting and poverty for benefit fraud when she stepped down as co leader but at that time it 'mental health' didn't have the cachet it now has.
Mentally ill or just ‘entitled’?
Greed. How long hs she got away with this?
I fail to see how stress drives one to shoplifting, what's the conection?
Spin, spin, spin .... looks like we're all taken to be fools ... so the people who put her in parliament were responsible for her state of mental health which led to what she had done and got caught out. Does she have to pay back to the taxpayers her salary and perks she had received and enjoyed ... so the ninety days probation in the work place has its first casualty in parliament and how ironic it comes from the green party who opposed this policy.
Lots of mental health issues in the green party😂😂😂
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Buuuuullllllssshhhhiiitttt 😂😂😂😂
Isn’t this the women who attacked Todd Muller in the media because he had a MAGA hat as part of his political memorabilia? Did she ever stop to think about what her actions did to his mental health?
Brilliant comment. So many of us take things on the chin (but feel a bit annoyed we have been abused some way) . I worked for a international hi tech company (based in USA) in which I was under intense pressure for 33 years. I can't remember stealing stuff from shops here in ChCh as a response.
golriz could team up with stressed out kiri allan and start a business... they could call it "smash n grab"
Minister of justice , jail time, strip of all parliamentary rights . Champagne ram raider
Do we have a right to complain if a NZ public figure commits significantly large multiple thefts and doesn't receive the equivalent punishment that anyone else would get?
What are the legal obligations of our justice system?
Can the justice system pick and choose who has to obey the law and who gets punished?
It'll be interesting to see how things pan out. We at least have a chance there may be some small consequence for Ghahraman with the current government. I suspect that under the previous government there would have been far more pressure to let her get away scot-free.
So the government decides who gets to obey the law? @@Rod_Knee
@@nzreggae2534 Sadly, that's how it worked out under the last lot. Uneven application of the law is disgraceful. We'll see if the current crowd leave the Justice department to do it's job without interference.
She should be charged it's a weak excuse.
Bloody good! And so she should! I don’t buy the mental stuff.
I've watched all the press releases about this, and the following is the paraphrase I've gleamed from them all.
"I don't mean to excuse my deplorable behavior, but you'll have to excuse my deplorable behavior. I have mental issues that motivated me to steal expensive items. I will not speak of this to anyone, ever, unless such time as I can profit from speaking about it."
Does that mean that now ALL people who steal expensive items can use mental health as an excuse, and perhaps as a gateway to lessened punishments?
Asking for a friend...
So is she now getting a job in the UN or what , or just going back to lying as a Lawyer or the Dole ?