@@brestbzh30 yeah, you can't say that he is reading your face because he can't even see at least half of it(I think Toby Fox did that shadow in corridor for us not to take his words about reading expressions literally)
@@gumballwatterson6786fr, idk what happened to people 6 years ago it was always obvious that it was a sarcasm, but people started to think too straightforward about it
I love that, unlike Frisk, Flowey, and even Asgore and Toriel, who are in a sense part of this god-like power and key players in it, Sans is instead a scientist who has walked in on this and peeked behind the curtain.
Another thing, I was doing a genocide run but I kept dying to undyne the undying so I just reset to do a pacifist run, everything was mostly normal but when I went to go talk to sans before fighting papyrus he said "tips for fighting my brother? Don't capice." meaning he 100% remembers you FIGHTING Papyrus and is now telling to not do it. Just a cool little thing
@@MemoricsIsReal no, because I never finished the genocide route, I reset to do a true pacifist route and he said that, I had killed no one. So I don't think he's referring to the kills on the route, he's referring to the genocide route I aborted and reset on. Unless I'm misinterpreting what you said
I think asgore knows about the resets since each human that he has fought probably reloaded their saves against him, so he had to regretfully kill them until they eventually gave up.
@@joaovitorsantosdasilva7865 this would mean that all humans had this abillity, (to reset time) and it was probably imo only when flowey came around that their lives were ended because of his dt that was injected into his dust onto a bed of flowers
Yeah, if he did remember he would be able to do loads more preventitive measures or even would just not show up at parts because of his knowing of the human's nature So the only logical explanation is that he doesn't remember them and just knows a lot about them
This makes sense. I think if Sans did actually remember the resets than he would... Probably express that by saying some very very ominous. I like how you touched on Asgore. I never really thought about it. Anywho great video keep up the great work!
@@Yuti640 Yeah, it feels very weird and rushed for Sans just to remember the resets. In my opinion, Sans is just an NPC who figured out some new special attacks and took advantage of them (He's also uhh.. depressed......)
EXTRA THING TO NOTE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION: The other fallen humans had determination, their determination is how Alphys did all that stuff in the true lab, of course it's probably not as much as the human we play as but it's a pretty substantial amount considering it was able to melt over 20 monsters
Sans says in his fight that they detected an anomaly,he doesn't remember any of the resets,he just knows they happen but never showed that he actually remembers them,he's just guessing since he knows they do happen
@@SandBagEateri think that genocide and pacifist are different timelines and if you did genocide in one timeline and then you do post genocide pacifist it's pacifist in another timeline, but Chara and you are the only ones for all the timelines, that's probably why Sans calls you an anomaly
Sans knows about variables. LV and EXP, he’s intelligent, but even intelligent people can experience de ja vu, and we have to remember that Sans stopped Fliwey’s shenannigans, or at the very least. Pestered him for a long time.
Sans only can tell by your expression whenever he gives you the lecture after you reset again he tells your the secret code word and it keeps going on and whenever you turn around in Snowden before he tells you too he can tell by the little details
he can't read expressions, he reveals that if you die many times(10 and 11 as far as I remember), he will say that he lost count and he will ask to count instead of him, which means he was counting, not reading expressions(if it wasn't obvious because he is a comic)
Fanon Sans: remembers everything like Flowey Canon Sans: knows the existence of resets, has deja vu about previous runs, and is very good at reading faces, but does not actually remember what happened last reset
@@abdillahahmad7025it honestly makes him even more badass. I mean bro doesn’t have the answer he just correctly guess it each time with the tiniest details it’s truly incredible.
Yes, it's true, many have confused Sans' power with Flowey's, and that's why one of the most famous "AUs" called Dusttale falls apart when you realize that.
my theory about asgore knowing about timelines/resets is that if asgore wanted just to cross the barrier he would need 1 or 2 souls max 'cause Asriel was able to do that with only Chara's souls and because photoshop Flowey can save + load timelines with other souls if asgore can have all souls he could completly reset the world and try getting Chara and Asriel alive
@@Yuti640 its true that I am kinda off topic but it is always good to know more, plus I couldn't just say nothing while that theory is into my head for months
Necropost but the reason he needs 7 souls isn't to reset, it's to break the barrier for all monsters to be able to leave as, yes, with any less than 6 he could not break the barrier, only leave on his own. Furthermore, absorbing human souls doesn't give a monster the ability to reset. Asriel didn't get control over the timeline because he absorbed Chara's soul, he only got said control after Alphys experimented on him, injecting the flower his dust sat in wth determination etc etc.
The only thing I can say is that Sans has some determination in his eye since when he was a scientist. His eye can tell how many times someone died just by looking at them.. =)
Eh, issue becomes that monsters aren’t supposed to be able to handle determination, Undyne is such an annoying unexplained exception but it could be argued that her immensely strong will allows her to handle determination… somehow??? But if that’s the case, there’s not much reason sans should be able to handle determination unless there’s something we just don’t know about him yet
@@Yuti640 well, Sans has karma and burns of revenge. Once the player killed everything until the last corridor Sans will judge you with hard measures. I also have to mention that everytime you get hit he deals 1 dmg + 19 dmg overtime, making you regret every single LV you got.
He does alot more than agree,theres a key note to his nod being that it was if sadness meaning he isnt unaware,its like how i got into a whole argument because i have done every run for undertale the first being rhe genocide/neutral end where I killed some monsters yet spared the big ones or the ones that could be,it wasnt until my second and third playthrough though both in terms of chronicle order being pacifist after neutral and genocide after pacifist was done. Each boss monster gives hints to the players who did a true reset for the game meaning all progress goes back to zero,my belief is the reason this is true maybe because of how the monsters each respectively have come into contact with determination along with the other souls of humans to fall down added onto the fact flowey was also running his own interference until you the player fell down. Something others forget is flowey is 100% aware no different from sans and if there was any it would be in that unlike sans flowey couldnt prove who he is even if he wanted to due to him being soulless, overall my point is it isnt *just* all limited to sans remembering given certain actions you repeat (if done right the prior timeline) are given new context like a sense they did It once before. Its been a long time since I last was on rhat game tho so who knows maybe there's been more im unaware of that others got?
The point of the other characters “remembering” (not really remembering more of a feeling), is what I was going for with the whole papyrus scene, just wanted an opportunity to point out that amazing line And while it would be possible for the other fallen humans to have died and reloaded against the other monsters, we know for sure that Asgore would’ve had to kill at least one considering that undyne says that “no human has ever made it *past* ASGORE” which means that a human has made it to him and obviously, has dieded So basing memory deja vu theories off of Asgore is just the strongest pillar we got since we know for certain that he has encountered other fallen humans apart from Chara.
@@Yuti640 well but it also fits because as I've pointed out if we treat the game as just that then each reset us the players have done isn't fully forgotten as much as opposed to what we believe it would be for a reset if a game back to its start point,if we go by that then the deja'vu scenario isn't just a theory but rather something directly correlating to the belief each soul had their own form of reset but also that he was aware of their potential to retry or redo their run. Still until someone or something more proves this it just shows you that the game has a way to make you really weigh your choice of what you do. I mean I still remember my genocide run and killing papyrus,I regret it to this day because they hammer it into you everyone has a choice of how they go about doing things even if it's just bad. If they really try they could do good
My theory is that it's because of gaster,if the au like handplates and horrotale are canon then that makes sense cuz gaster did something to sans's eye which connected them and when gaster fell in the core and was sent in void he saw the truth about undertale and allowed sans to remember about the resets through the connection they share.
they're... not canon, at all there is a possibility that sans' knowledge of the timeline could be related to gaster (with the lab behind the house being the biggest thing hinting to that) through deltarune somehow but to find out we're just gonna have to wait
Everyone knows about Resets, its just Sans can tell when you RESET by your facial expressions Toriel, Paps, and everyone get a sense of Dejva vo when you RESET The Reason Asgore knows is because you straight out tell him you RESET and that makes him remember what he had done before the RESET
I more meant in the video that they don't know about the CONCEPT of resets/saves/loads, only that they have that afformentioned feeling of deja vu, but sans, because he knows of the timeline due to the reports, is able to capitalise on that feeling and knows it's real
I'm personally doubtful of that, since if sans were to tell Asgore of it, he would have a much greater understanding and also probably a complete extetential crisis, only having that vague telling from the human and the fallen children allows Asgore to not understand too well but to understand that SOMETHING is going on when each fallen child tells him this
@@Yuti640 personally for me, it's different, asgore knows about all of this in some aspect, just look at asgore in the game over screen telling you to "STAY DETERMINED"
and how else could have the humans won the war without a single casualty? it must be determination, and i quote: undyne: "alphys once told me that humans are determined"
The unexplained thing is why Asgore still fights you after knowing you can come back, my theory is that he wants to basically force the determination out of you, by repeatedly killing you and making you give up, and hes probably done this with all the other humans, just a theory though. Edit: I think it's more likely that Asgore just feels some sense of Deja Vu when you fight him again, and that hes felt this with all the humans, thus leading him to the realization that something is up since a while before frisk arrives
@@Yuti640Thinking about it again, that would be true, though the deja vu theory is still possible, it is also possible that asgore had some knowledge of the gaster experiments, giving him some insight into determination, combined with his deja vu, he might be able to piece things together. Your theory is quite interesting to think about though :).
determination "doesn't" explain how sans can control space and time in DIFFERENT routes. but at the same time, it might be similar to flowey's situation where he lost his control over space and time due to the player showing up. spoiler: sans in the pacifist route is much more powerful since he can easily "prank" you across space and time, it has to be a much weaker version of determination, if at all. sans being the "easiest" enemy in the game, might mean his dt (idk if he has it at all just a theory) works but not against other dt users? his powers could be entirely unrelated to determination, these are just theories explaining HOW he does what he does, but his dodging ability and teleportation are still yet to be theorized on how they are even possible due to no information on them at all.
I think the fun of sans is just that he can do these crazy things and it’s never explained But to be honest, if I were to give a theory, I would genuinely say Gaster here, I know everyone always says Gaster for anything, but with him having those Blasters as magical weapons, it would make sense to explain his powerful magic like that
yep, that's also how he has an advantage over the human in the genocide boss fight, his smarts combined with being able to do KR stuff leads to him having much more of an advantage, in any other situation, he would be screwed
One important thing to note is that NOWHERE in the game is it said that "❤ = Determination"... in fact "The Color Gold = Determination" is FAR more likely with how many times things related to Determination are golden, with the save stars basically being pure Determination... so ❤ cannot possibly be a "Determination" soul since it isn't golden
@@eaterbattery uhhh no? During the genocide route he tells us when he wake up as a flower bla bla he had no soul and emotions, bla bla bla he had determination enough to save and reset and even come back from death like us. he doenst metion anything about alphys
@@Yuti640 this contradicts my theory, where "his dt" is just so weak and lazy that it doesn't help him at all besides giving him the simple ability to dodge LIKE a human. i feel like the ability to freeze time and such is all on the pacifist route, since you're dt is so weak there, that he is more free to do what he wants, such as prank you across space and time.
Well he remembers through your expression and you can still get the do you remember me dialogue if you’ve never done pacifist so he’s saying that under the assumption that you have, which begs the question, why he would do that if he remembers
@@Yuti640but it's actually not true. he doesn't read expressions, it's actually always was obvious idk what happened to people 6 years ago it's obviously sarcasm but if you don't believe there's a proof: he admits that he was counting your deaths when you die 10 and 11 times and asks you to count instead of him, which means he wasn't reading expressions this whole time(he is a comic, he lies to you like really often, he calls Flowey an echo flower and explains blue attacks instead of explaining how his brother can make your soul blue), and when he makes assumptions about you being friends(please notice that he only makes assumptions only about you being friends) he knows about True Pacifist routes from his reports, but he can't remember them because of True Reset, which makes everyone(even Flowey) forget everything just like beating genocide route and recreating the world, so it doesn't count. video is cool though, but info is not true idk how it isn't obvious because it always was but I still explained it in facts if common sense wasn't enough no offense it's ok
Or does he remember you’re *resets?*
human... i remember you're 🄶🄴🄽🄾🄲🄸🄳🄴🅂
Yeeees I'm so glad you said that
Honestly idk but I think he remembers them but he acts like he doesn't to annoy us? Might be true?
@@brestbzh30 yeah, you can't say that he is reading your face because he can't even see at least half of it(I think Toby Fox did that shadow in corridor for us not to take his words about reading expressions literally)
@@gumballwatterson6786fr, idk what happened to people 6 years ago it was always obvious that it was a sarcasm, but people started to think too straightforward about it
I love that, unlike Frisk, Flowey, and even Asgore and Toriel, who are in a sense part of this god-like power and key players in it, Sans is instead a scientist who has walked in on this and peeked behind the curtain.
And from there he lives a life of apathy, knowing cursed knowledge
Another thing, I was doing a genocide run but I kept dying to undyne the undying so I just reset to do a pacifist run, everything was mostly normal but when I went to go talk to sans before fighting papyrus he said "tips for fighting my brother?
Don't capice." meaning he 100% remembers you FIGHTING Papyrus and is now telling to not do it. Just a cool little thing
yeah, i love that
yeah whenever he says that, it means he is aware of you killing monsters on THAT SAME ROUTE, not in other routes most likely.
@@MemoricsIsReal no, because I never finished the genocide route, I reset to do a true pacifist route and he said that, I had killed no one. So I don't think he's referring to the kills on the route, he's referring to the genocide route I aborted and reset on. Unless I'm misinterpreting what you said
I think that's because he f*cking loves his brother and does not want him to get hurt
There's also dialogue if you reload after befriending Undyne, she will say how she had a feeling of wanting to befriend you
I think asgore knows about the resets since each human that he has fought probably reloaded their saves against him, so he had to regretfully kill them until they eventually gave up.
only determination gives you option to save and reset unlike other souls
@@baz5785 every soul has determination,True lab confirms it by alphys saying in entrys she extracted determination from the souls
yeah, i completely forgot to mention that
Yea, when you die and come back during his fight and act the line will be "you tell asgore that he killed you once" and asgore will nod
@@joaovitorsantosdasilva7865 this would mean that all humans had this abillity, (to reset time) and it was probably imo only when flowey came around that their lives were ended because of his dt that was injected into his dust onto a bed of flowers
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THAT SANS DO NOT REMEMBER HE JUST KNOW ABOUT THEM.
Yeah, if he did remember he would be able to do loads more preventitive measures or even would just not show up at parts because of his knowing of the human's nature
So the only logical explanation is that he doesn't remember them and just knows a lot about them
@@Yuti640 I am glad after so many years I know this
@@Yuti640uh he probably wouldn't do anything because he knows that everything will be reset
He still get deja'vus as a lot of other chars
This makes sense. I think if Sans did actually remember the resets than he would... Probably express that by saying some very very ominous. I like how you touched on Asgore. I never really thought about it. Anywho great video keep up the great work!
Yeah, Sans has always had to figure out that you’ve reloaded or reset through external means, never just instantly knowing it
@@Yuti640 Yeah, it feels very weird and rushed for Sans just to remember the resets. In my opinion, Sans is just an NPC who figured out some new special attacks and took advantage of them (He's also uhh.. depressed......)
EXTRA THING TO NOTE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION:
The other fallen humans had determination, their determination is how Alphys did all that stuff in the true lab, of course it's probably not as much as the human we play as but it's a pretty substantial amount considering it was able to melt over 20 monsters
Also make flowey and give him the power to save and load
And 20 momsters is nothing
Snowdrakes mom alone is 17 monsters
It probably melted nearly 100
Sans says in his fight that they detected an anomaly,he doesn't remember any of the resets,he just knows they happen but never showed that he actually remembers them,he's just guessing since he knows they do happen
eeexactly!
Also if the genocide is after a true reset,sans shouldn't know anyway, that wiped even floweys memory
@@SandBagEateri think that genocide and pacifist are different timelines and if you did genocide in one timeline and then you do post genocide pacifist it's pacifist in another timeline, but Chara and you are the only ones for all the timelines, that's probably why Sans calls you an anomaly
Sans knows about variables. LV and EXP, he’s intelligent, but even intelligent people can experience de ja vu, and we have to remember that Sans stopped Fliwey’s shenannigans, or at the very least. Pestered him for a long time.
yep!
Sans only can tell by your expression whenever he gives you the lecture after you reset again he tells your the secret code word and it keeps going on and whenever you turn around in Snowden before he tells you too he can tell by the little details
yep
he can't read expressions, he reveals that if you die many times(10 and 11 as far as I remember), he will say that he lost count and he will ask to count instead of him, which means he was counting, not reading expressions(if it wasn't obvious because he is a comic)
Spoiler: he does not remember them.
Even though it's canonical that he doesn't remember it. It's still an interesting element to put in fan animations, etc.
Fanon Sans: remembers everything like Flowey
Canon Sans: knows the existence of resets, has deja vu about previous runs, and is very good at reading faces, but does not actually remember what happened last reset
@@abdillahahmad7025it honestly makes him even more badass. I mean bro doesn’t have the answer he just correctly guess it each time with the tiniest details it’s truly incredible.
@@fad2016 exactly
😅
Yes, it's true, many have confused Sans' power with Flowey's, and that's why one of the most famous "AUs" called Dusttale falls apart when you realize that.
my theory about asgore knowing about timelines/resets is that if asgore wanted just to cross the barrier he would need 1 or 2 souls max 'cause Asriel was able to do that with only Chara's souls and because photoshop Flowey can save + load timelines with other souls if asgore can have all souls he could completly reset the world and try getting Chara and Asriel alive
I don’t see what that has to do with present day Asgore knowing of saves and loads but it’s an interesting hypothetical
@@Yuti640 its true that I am kinda off topic but it is always good to know more, plus I couldn't just say nothing while that theory is into my head for months
Necropost but the reason he needs 7 souls isn't to reset, it's to break the barrier for all monsters to be able to leave as, yes, with any less than 6 he could not break the barrier, only leave on his own.
Furthermore, absorbing human souls doesn't give a monster the ability to reset. Asriel didn't get control over the timeline because he absorbed Chara's soul, he only got said control after Alphys experimented on him, injecting the flower his dust sat in wth determination etc etc.
The only thing I can say is that Sans has some determination in his eye since when he was a scientist. His eye can tell how many times someone died just by looking at them..
=)
How do you know about save a loads
Eh, issue becomes that monsters aren’t supposed to be able to handle determination, Undyne is such an annoying unexplained exception but it could be argued that her immensely strong will allows her to handle determination… somehow???
But if that’s the case, there’s not much reason sans should be able to handle determination unless there’s something we just don’t know about him yet
Y’know, if I do make that another analysis video I might do it about that
@@Yuti640 well, Sans has karma and burns of revenge. Once the player killed everything until the last corridor Sans will judge you with hard measures. I also have to mention that everytime you get hit he deals 1 dmg + 19 dmg overtime, making you regret every single LV you got.
Sans only knows how mant times you died because of his deja vus
He does alot more than agree,theres a key note to his nod being that it was if sadness meaning he isnt unaware,its like how i got into a whole argument because i have done every run for undertale the first being rhe genocide/neutral end where I killed some monsters yet spared the big ones or the ones that could be,it wasnt until my second and third playthrough though both in terms of chronicle order being pacifist after neutral and genocide after pacifist was done. Each boss monster gives hints to the players who did a true reset for the game meaning all progress goes back to zero,my belief is the reason this is true maybe because of how the monsters each respectively have come into contact with determination along with the other souls of humans to fall down added onto the fact flowey was also running his own interference until you the player fell down. Something others forget is flowey is 100% aware no different from sans and if there was any it would be in that unlike sans flowey couldnt prove who he is even if he wanted to due to him being soulless, overall my point is it isnt *just* all limited to sans remembering given certain actions you repeat (if done right the prior timeline) are given new context like a sense they did It once before. Its been a long time since I last was on rhat game tho so who knows maybe there's been more im unaware of that others got?
The point of the other characters “remembering” (not really remembering more of a feeling), is what I was going for with the whole papyrus scene, just wanted an opportunity to point out that amazing line
And while it would be possible for the other fallen humans to have died and reloaded against the other monsters, we know for sure that Asgore would’ve had to kill at least one considering that undyne says that “no human has ever made it *past* ASGORE” which means that a human has made it to him and obviously, has dieded
So basing memory deja vu theories off of Asgore is just the strongest pillar we got since we know for certain that he has encountered other fallen humans apart from Chara.
@@Yuti640 well but it also fits because as I've pointed out if we treat the game as just that then each reset us the players have done isn't fully forgotten as much as opposed to what we believe it would be for a reset if a game back to its start point,if we go by that then the deja'vu scenario isn't just a theory but rather something directly correlating to the belief each soul had their own form of reset but also that he was aware of their potential to retry or redo their run. Still until someone or something more proves this it just shows you that the game has a way to make you really weigh your choice of what you do. I mean I still remember my genocide run and killing papyrus,I regret it to this day because they hammer it into you everyone has a choice of how they go about doing things even if it's just bad. If they really try they could do good
My theory is that it's because of gaster,if the au like handplates and horrotale are canon then that makes sense cuz gaster did something to sans's eye which connected them and when gaster fell in the core and was sent in void he saw the truth about undertale and allowed sans to remember about the resets through the connection they share.
they're... not canon, at all
there is a possibility that sans' knowledge of the timeline could be related to gaster (with the lab behind the house being the biggest thing hinting to that) through deltarune somehow
but to find out we're just gonna have to wait
Everyone knows about Resets, its just Sans can tell when you RESET by your facial expressions
Toriel, Paps, and everyone get a sense of Dejva vo when you RESET
The Reason Asgore knows is because you straight out tell him you RESET and that makes him remember what he had done before the RESET
I more meant in the video that they don't know about the CONCEPT of resets/saves/loads, only that they have that afformentioned feeling of deja vu, but sans, because he knows of the timeline due to the reports, is able to capitalise on that feeling and knows it's real
@@Yuti640 Ah ok
@@Blank-un3xz oh yeah, that's why i said "Feel resets"
Sans is aware of resets but doesn't know what actually happened in each one he only assumes what happened
yep
He's just a troll made by Tobi.
funny skeleman
3:25 is still funny out of context
he sure does live in a society
Pleasant suprise to see you here
Maybe sans has just told Asgore about the loads and resets
I'm personally doubtful of that, since if sans were to tell Asgore of it, he would have a much greater understanding and also probably a complete extetential crisis, only having that vague telling from the human and the fallen children allows Asgore to not understand too well but to understand that SOMETHING is going on when each fallen child tells him this
@@Yuti640 personally for me, it's different, asgore knows about all of this in some aspect, just look at asgore in the game over screen telling you to "STAY DETERMINED"
and how else could have the humans won the war without a single casualty? it must be determination, and i quote: undyne: "alphys once told me that humans are determined"
either way, there's no way i'm particularly wrong, as there's not enough info on anything like this lol
Are we forgetting that Temmie remembers when you die
flowey might have told asgore about it as well, actually
that could be possible, similarly to how he probably sent Alphys the letter saying he knows what she did
The unexplained thing is why Asgore still fights you after knowing you can come back, my theory is that he wants to basically force the determination out of you, by repeatedly killing you and making you give up, and hes probably done this with all the other humans, just a theory though.
Edit: I think it's more likely that Asgore just feels some sense of Deja Vu when you fight him again, and that hes felt this with all the humans, thus leading him to the realization that something is up since a while before frisk arrives
Well, if my theory stands and Asgore was told, he would know that repeatedly fighting a human can cause them to eventually not come back
@@Yuti640Thinking about it again, that would be true, though the deja vu theory is still possible, it is also possible that asgore had some knowledge of the gaster experiments, giving him some insight into determination, combined with his deja vu, he might be able to piece things together. Your theory is quite interesting to think about though :).
For some reason I thought you would’ve sounded exactly like Dorked but purple. It is an indescribable thing.
Cool vid.👍 no complaints.
You discovered my inspiration
*human i don't remember you're resets👍
determination "doesn't" explain how sans can control space and time in DIFFERENT routes. but at the same time, it might be similar to flowey's situation where he lost his control over space and time due to the player showing up. spoiler: sans in the pacifist route is much more powerful since he can easily "prank" you across space and time, it has to be a much weaker version of determination, if at all. sans being the "easiest" enemy in the game, might mean his dt (idk if he has it at all just a theory) works but not against other dt users? his powers could be entirely unrelated to determination, these are just theories explaining HOW he does what he does, but his dodging ability and teleportation are still yet to be theorized on how they are even possible due to no information on them at all.
so many questions to be answered one day (we hope)
I think the fun of sans is just that he can do these crazy things and it’s never explained
But to be honest, if I were to give a theory, I would genuinely say Gaster here, I know everyone always says Gaster for anything, but with him having those Blasters as magical weapons, it would make sense to explain his powerful magic like that
He can't, he's just perceptive
yep, that's also how he has an advantage over the human in the genocide boss fight, his smarts combined with being able to do KR stuff leads to him having much more of an advantage, in any other situation, he would be screwed
I wonder if the red soul is rlly the soul of determination, since determination is more like a element than a unique trait
Frisk is the most determined,the other souls gave up faster
@@SandBagEater i think the other souls arent unable to come back because flower was the most determined being alive before us frisk
@João Vitor Santos Da Silva
Flowey is fairly recent! Alphys created him after the seventh human fell (frisk is the eight)
One important thing to note is that NOWHERE in the game is it said that "❤ = Determination"... in fact "The Color Gold = Determination" is FAR more likely with how many times things related to Determination are golden, with the save stars basically being pure Determination... so ❤ cannot possibly be a "Determination" soul since it isn't golden
@@eaterbattery uhhh no? During the genocide route he tells us when he wake up as a flower bla bla he had no soul and emotions, bla bla bla he had determination enough to save and reset and even come back from death like us. he doenst metion anything about alphys
He doesn’t
yep
@@Yuti640 yep
He doesn’t. How many times is it gonna take to make it clear that only flowey truly remembers them
yeah, i like how i pose that question in the video and then i'm just like "he doesn't!"
@@Yuti640 this contradicts my theory, where "his dt" is just so weak and lazy that it doesn't help him at all besides giving him the simple ability to dodge LIKE a human. i feel like the ability to freeze time and such is all on the pacifist route, since you're dt is so weak there, that he is more free to do what he wants, such as prank you across space and time.
But he does remember. He says "don't you remember me buddy?" And remembers how many times you died.
Well he remembers through your expression and you can still get the do you remember me dialogue if you’ve never done pacifist so he’s saying that under the assumption that you have, which begs the question, why he would do that if he remembers
@@Yuti640but it's actually not true. he doesn't read expressions, it's actually always was obvious idk what happened to people 6 years ago it's obviously sarcasm but if you don't believe there's a proof: he admits that he was counting your deaths when you die 10 and 11 times and asks you to count instead of him, which means he wasn't reading expressions this whole time(he is a comic, he lies to you like really often, he calls Flowey an echo flower and explains blue attacks instead of explaining how his brother can make your soul blue), and when he makes assumptions about you being friends(please notice that he only makes assumptions only about you being friends) he knows about True Pacifist routes from his reports, but he can't remember them because of True Reset, which makes everyone(even Flowey) forget everything just like beating genocide route and recreating the world, so it doesn't count. video is cool though, but info is not true idk how it isn't obvious because it always was but I still explained it in facts if common sense wasn't enough no offense it's ok