Brooks looks beautiful, just for that reason I would get them , irrespective of other features which might not be in favor of brooks . But that’s just me
I own both shoes I actually prefer the glycerin overall even the ride. I use the triumph 18 for recovery runs and glycerin for my long runs. Both great shoes though
Thanks for another great review I’ve got the Clifton 7 it was ok at first but now I keep getting blisters when I run in them . I might try the Saucony triumph 18 👍
I made the same experience. I have normal wide foot and Saucony`s and Brooks`s just fit my feet fine. Bought the Clifton and it was unfortunately to narrow on my forefoot.
Great question, technically these are neutral runners, they are not "support" or "motion control" shoes so no need to cover the arch design since they are not really designed to add additional support. If you are looking for support shoes check out the Saucony Guide or Brooks Adrenaline series.
Thank you for this excellent review of the two shoes that I've narrowed down to for my long slow runs. I will be replacing worn out Altra Paradigms but not concerned with the drop. I think its come down to the toss of a coin!
Love the comparisons. Overall Brooks has been better in terms of fit for me as a brand, but as a very light weight runner I stay away from heavy shoes. I’ve actually been using the Saucony Endo Speeds as a long run shoe. It’s only $10 more than those two, and while the upper is minimal, it is forgiving below the upper. Martha
Ya the Saucony's are great shoes too, not in the same world as these two, but a great option for someone that wants something a little higher performance than these two cushioned daily trainers. Thanks for the comment!
I'm 45 and just started to run. Had some 5 year old Adidas Ultra Boost at home but I think it's time for an upgrade. I'm running mostly on asphalt and for approx 1 hour. No idea what to buy yet ;( Thank you for an excellent video
If you like something that’s really cushioned and soft try on some ASICS Novablasts or Gel Nimbus. ASICS is always a good place to start and won’t break the bank on sale. If you have an outlet store or mall within your reach I’d start there.
Ya a netural, cushioned shoe like these two, or gel nimbus are not a bad place to start. If you pronate at all though you may want to check out supportive shoes.
Glycerine 10 Best glycerine ever. Great shoes. They used some gel as well as the foam . Guess they switched to full foam afterwards. The new models are great but somehow they lost that feel
Thanks for that clear great review! I went to buy Timberland boots and just tried this sauconi for a moment. Took them instead of the boots. Man they are soft! Comfortable! The softest shoes ever tried! Yes the heel is not totally secured in the shoe but i can compromise for the softness/plush benefit. Its like walking on a hotdog!
I have the Glyc 17 and Triumph 17. The Triumph 17 was better than the Glyc 17, but still wasn't all that comfy on the road. My Clifton 6 blows them BOTH right OUT of the water.
Hi! I’m From Brasil and love the channel! I'm really confused! I like softness/cushioning. I plan to run between 5 to 10 both on the treadmill and on the street! sometimes I do hiit. My maximum shooting speed is 15km/h. my average pace is 5 min per 1km/h (about 0.62 miles) ! i'm searching between 1080 v10 or v11, Novablast 1or 2, mach4, gliceryn 19, triumph 18, bondi7! which one would be best? is invincible an option? or it's too soft for a hiit for example. thanks and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the comment. I felt the opposite but we all have different feelings, could be heel strike vs forefoot, or widths... Thanks for watching though!
Thanks, ya most insoles are not worth the mention, and a lot of people replace with ones they like better anyway. We're starting a new review lab where we do focus on the insole though, so stay tuned.
Thanks for the head to head on 2 recommended shoes I've discovered in my research for a new running shoe to replace my Saucony Ride ISO, especially for the tip on the Hoka Clifton 7. Need to try all these on at the local store asap, not sure it's open with the current lockdown!
A comparison that i was looking for, it would be nice to get your opinion after 100 miles. I was in between the Glycerine and the Triumph but my foot said to me go for the Triumph at the end, but only 10 miles with Triumph until now i like the comfort for as a recovery shoes. Thanks!
There's not a huge difference in weight on those two. I think the Ghost is supposed to be 10.1 and the Glycerin 10.2... There's some variability in the weight listed by the manufacturer and the weight on my scale, I've even found difference between left and right shoes... If you're Ghosts are older they could be heavier than newer glycerins too.
Thanks for the review. I was just wondering how both of these runners stack up in terms of their width and toe box fit. Do they run narrow in the standard size and is there a bit of space free in front of the toes. Would appreciate any feedback as I am currently considering both these shoes. Thanks.
I have a slightly wider foot and ran both of these in a standard D width, and both worked well. The uppers are plenty flexible and conform to the shapes of your foot. Unless you have extremely wide feet, I think the D width should work for you. Be sure to check out the individual reviews on both of these: Brooks Glycerin 19 (ua-cam.com/video/63SfFydAie8/v-deo.html) and Saucony Triumph 18 (ua-cam.com/video/QwrxnxmTxq0/v-deo.html)
They feel fairly identical in fit, but they are pretty identical in performance so it may make more sense to get a slightly different style of shoe like a true recovery shoe or something for faster efforts.
I have the Clifton 6, Bondi 6, and Triumph 17, and I thought the Triumph 17 blows. I have read the 18 ain't as good as the 17, sooooo, I guess I'm done w/ Saucony.
are the clifton and the bondi similar in forefoot width? I had problems with the clifton as it was too narrow for my forefoot but i read the bondi would be a little wider in the forefoot. Can you confirm this?
I was not a huge fan of the Bondi to be honest, check out my review on the latest version: ua-cam.com/video/pV_k-PqDqXQ/v-deo.html. To me the Bondi is a bit heavy and clunky, but it does have it's purpose, if you are over 200lbs I think it can excel, but for anyone under 200lbs I'm just not sure you need that much stiff foam underfoot.
I have brooks ghost 11, but wanted something with more support ... got triumph 18 and feel very disappointed... it kind of makes my feet hurt 😢 But I only did I run, really hope they will settle
I remember getting the 17 and all they did was make my feet hurt. Especially my big toe region. So I took out the insole , including the yellow thing underneath it. Then I put in an old insole. Made the shoe a lot better.
@@dave1555 thanks Dave! I exchanged them already...for Ghost 13... I think saucony were to narrow for my feet, I couldn't do it... Feeling very happy now :)
The midsole is a bit softer on the Triumph which for people used to running in stiffer shoes can take a bit to get used to. New muscles activating to help you balance on a less stable, softer foam. Glad you found and like the Ghost 13, if you need a more cushioned shoe that's very similar check out the Brooks Glycerin 19, very similar to the Ghost just a bit more foam under foot.
Brooks looks beautiful, just for that reason I would get them , irrespective of other features which might not be in favor of brooks . But that’s just me
Ya its a good looking shoe
I own both shoes I actually prefer the glycerin overall even the ride. I use the triumph 18 for recovery runs and glycerin for my long runs. Both great shoes though
Which has better cushion
Thanks for another great review I’ve got the
Clifton 7 it was ok at first but now I keep getting blisters when I run in them .
I might try the Saucony triumph 18 👍
Thanks for sharing, I think you'll like them.
I had the same problem, I changed the insole from an old nimbus I had, problem solved.
The Cliftons might not suit you if you have wider feet. I found them to be very tight in the midfoot area.
Interesting, I was really happy with the Cliftons, but my feet are a bit between D and 2E, so I don't need something super wide.
I made the same experience. I have normal wide foot and Saucony`s and Brooks`s just fit my feet fine. Bought the Clifton and it was unfortunately to narrow on my forefoot.
Why nothing about all around support, arch support etc. very important!
Great question, technically these are neutral runners, they are not "support" or "motion control" shoes so no need to cover the arch design since they are not really designed to add additional support. If you are looking for support shoes check out the Saucony Guide or Brooks Adrenaline series.
The lockdown on the Saucony is awesome with the concave footliner....
Thank you for this excellent review of the two shoes that I've narrowed down to for my long slow runs. I will be replacing worn out Altra Paradigms but not concerned with the drop. I think its come down to the toss of a coin!
Glad it was helpful! Ya these are pretty similar, a coin toss should work. The Saucony is a touch more plush, and the colors are a bit louder.
Love the comparisons. Overall Brooks has been better in terms of fit for me as a brand, but as a very light weight runner I stay away from heavy shoes. I’ve actually been using the Saucony Endo Speeds as a long run shoe. It’s only $10 more than those two, and while the upper is minimal, it is forgiving below the upper. Martha
Ya the Saucony's are great shoes too, not in the same world as these two, but a great option for someone that wants something a little higher performance than these two cushioned daily trainers. Thanks for the comment!
qual você prefere esse Triumph 18 ou Skechers max cushioning ?
Glycerines are the worst shoes I’ve even ran in., like running in sand
Muito obrigado. Vídeo perfeito... Ajudou bastante na escolha.
I'm 45 and just started to run. Had some 5 year old Adidas Ultra Boost at home but I think it's time for an upgrade. I'm running mostly on asphalt and for approx 1 hour. No idea what to buy yet ;( Thank you for an excellent video
If you like something that’s really cushioned and soft try on some ASICS Novablasts or Gel Nimbus.
ASICS is always a good place to start and won’t break the bank on sale.
If you have an outlet store or mall within your reach I’d start there.
Ya a netural, cushioned shoe like these two, or gel nimbus are not a bad place to start. If you pronate at all though you may want to check out supportive shoes.
I love max cushion comparisons. It's all I keep my eyes open for really
These two have it!
Very much liked the comparison video . Thanks
Glad you liked it, more to come!
The comparison was extremely helpful.
Cindy, thanks for the comment, glad we could help!
Is this comfortable for half marathon or a marathon?
Glycerine 10 Best glycerine ever. Great shoes. They used some gel as well as the foam . Guess they switched to full foam afterwards. The new models are great but somehow they lost that feel
Thanks for the info! Ya gel can be heavy, it's dense, so I would assume they moved away from it for weight reasons.
Thanks for that clear great review!
I went to buy Timberland boots and just tried this sauconi for a moment.
Took them instead of the boots. Man they are soft! Comfortable! The softest shoes ever tried!
Yes the heel is not totally secured in the shoe but i can compromise for the softness/plush benefit.
Its like walking on a hotdog!
Glad I could help! Haha like walking on a hotdog!
I have the Glyc 17 and Triumph 17. The Triumph 17 was better than the Glyc 17, but still wasn't all that comfy on the road. My Clifton 6 blows them BOTH right OUT of the water.
Hi! I’m From Brasil and love the channel! I'm really confused! I like softness/cushioning. I plan to run between 5 to 10 both on the treadmill and on the street! sometimes I do hiit. My maximum shooting speed is 15km/h. my average pace is 5 min per 1km/h (about 0.62 miles) ! i'm searching between 1080 v10 or v11, Novablast 1or 2, mach4, gliceryn 19, triumph 18, bondi7! which one would be best? is invincible an option? or it's too soft for a hiit for example. thanks and keep up the good work!
The Hoka Mach 4 is better. I have the Glycerin and love them though. Best.
The Mach 4 is also a great shoe. Check out our lab review of that product here: runrepeat.com/hoka-one-one-mach-4
Have have both shoes and I feel the brooks is much much more plush of a shoe. The Saucony is not plush at all to me.
Thanks for the comment. I felt the opposite but we all have different feelings, could be heel strike vs forefoot, or widths... Thanks for watching though!
“Heel box.” 😎
Nice head to head comparison, insoles always seemed to get missed in reviews though.
Thanks, ya most insoles are not worth the mention, and a lot of people replace with ones they like better anyway. We're starting a new review lab where we do focus on the insole though, so stay tuned.
That's funny because when you pay $150+ for a shoe you shouldn't have to replace the insoles with better ones.
Thanks for the head to head on 2 recommended shoes I've discovered in my research for a new running shoe to replace my Saucony Ride ISO, especially for the tip on the Hoka Clifton 7. Need to try all these on at the local store asap, not sure it's open with the current lockdown!
Happy to help! All three have their pros and cons, I think you'll find one of them will work for you though!
A comparison that i was looking for, it would be nice to get your opinion after 100 miles. I was in between the Glycerine and the Triumph but my foot said to me go for the Triumph at the end, but only 10 miles with Triumph until now i like the comfort for as a recovery shoes. Thanks!
I love the Brooks Glycerin GTS and have gotten 400 miles+ before they are worn down.
Hello from Brazil, thanks for your review, i think i will buy the saucony
I have the ghost and the glycerin and my ghosts are actually heavier than my glycerins
There's not a huge difference in weight on those two. I think the Ghost is supposed to be 10.1 and the Glycerin 10.2... There's some variability in the weight listed by the manufacturer and the weight on my scale, I've even found difference between left and right shoes... If you're Ghosts are older they could be heavier than newer glycerins too.
Saucony with the automatic win for modern materials and a less exaggerated heel to toe drop
I have the Glycerins and am trying to decide if I need the Triumph 18.
Thanks for the review. I was just wondering how both of these runners stack up in terms of their width and toe box fit. Do they run narrow in the standard size and is there a bit of space free in front of the toes. Would appreciate any feedback as I am currently considering both these shoes. Thanks.
I have a slightly wider foot and ran both of these in a standard D width, and both worked well. The uppers are plenty flexible and conform to the shapes of your foot. Unless you have extremely wide feet, I think the D width should work for you. Be sure to check out the individual reviews on both of these: Brooks Glycerin 19 (ua-cam.com/video/63SfFydAie8/v-deo.html) and Saucony Triumph 18 (ua-cam.com/video/QwrxnxmTxq0/v-deo.html)
@@RunRepeatcom Does the Triumph come in wider fits as in 2e? Seems not offered here, just curious if offered elsewhere, but loved the comparison.
How do they compare with sizing? I have the Triumph 19 in 9.5 Wide which fit well, and would like to get a pair of Brooks to alternate.
They feel fairly identical in fit, but they are pretty identical in performance so it may make more sense to get a slightly different style of shoe like a true recovery shoe or something for faster efforts.
where did you get the triumph 19? is it in the market now?
@@loque69 sorry, I meant 18
Love the comparison, thank you 👍
I have the bondi 7 and clifton 7, but , i tried the Saucony 18 and i think they are superior category..
I have the Clifton 6, Bondi 6, and Triumph 17, and I thought the Triumph 17 blows. I have read the 18 ain't as good as the 17, sooooo, I guess I'm done w/ Saucony.
are the clifton and the bondi similar in forefoot width? I had problems with the clifton as it was too narrow for my forefoot but i read the bondi would be a little wider in the forefoot. Can you confirm this?
FORT COLLINS!
How do these compare to the bondi 7?
I was not a huge fan of the Bondi to be honest, check out my review on the latest version: ua-cam.com/video/pV_k-PqDqXQ/v-deo.html. To me the Bondi is a bit heavy and clunky, but it does have it's purpose, if you are over 200lbs I think it can excel, but for anyone under 200lbs I'm just not sure you need that much stiff foam underfoot.
The Bondis caused my knee injury. Too soft on the landing.
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I have brooks ghost 11, but wanted something with more support ... got triumph 18 and feel very disappointed... it kind of makes my feet hurt 😢
But I only did I run, really hope they will settle
I remember getting the 17 and all they did was make my feet hurt. Especially my big toe region. So I took out the insole , including the yellow thing underneath it. Then I put in an old insole. Made the shoe a lot better.
@@dave1555 thanks Dave!
I exchanged them already...for Ghost 13... I think saucony were to narrow for my feet, I couldn't do it...
Feeling very happy now :)
The midsole is a bit softer on the Triumph which for people used to running in stiffer shoes can take a bit to get used to. New muscles activating to help you balance on a less stable, softer foam. Glad you found and like the Ghost 13, if you need a more cushioned shoe that's very similar check out the Brooks Glycerin 19, very similar to the Ghost just a bit more foam under foot.