I can't help but wonder why they felt the need to nerf this song. I mean, they already broke their game's philosophy by creating the lvl37 difficulty. Those charts are unable to be cleared by the same standard as lower leveled charts (utilizing two fingers maximum to clear). Basically, they said "fuck it" once for something game breaking, but oddly enough, decided to play it safe for something tame in comparison.
Every time I see these I think “man, that doesn’t look too hard” until the cute combo of big + small notes appear. After that I’m out. Don’t forget the flick every two seconds with billions bits of spam in between 😭
I wonder if they nerfed it to a 32 because it’s a cover…most unit songs are 32 Master max with 33+ being Virtual Singer That’s the pattern I noticed at least-it’s possibly they wanted to keep the cover songs at Master 32 level? Idk it’s strange af
It's most likely because of the chart's quality, there are several parts like 0:45 (small notes) n 1:38 (single n double) r too forced to make it lvl 33, making it less fun than it can be. however jack said in the desc that he likes the cs ver more, so i guess it still depends on the person.
The ending is pretty crazy, but I don't think that warrants it being a 33. Ghost rule is much harder, and it's a 32 as well. Of course, I haven't actually been able to play the chart (been having wrist pain lately 😔); going purely off of how it looks.
I'd much rather songs like this than the artificial difficulty of Yaminabe and What's Up Pop where they spam notes unnecessarily, add stupid gimmicks and patterns you can only memorize, and decide to make you use an extra finger just so they can point at it as the 'unbeatable' song for a day.
@@azurnal7573 I am still low-expert skill level clearing like 25s, a 34 is just as unbeatable to me as a 37, but when you LOOK at it you can see how 'cheap' the difficulty is, like the difference between a well-crafted boss battle in Dark Souls or a mod that spams 10x of every enemy, of course the latter is hard but that doesn't make it clever
@@fereleth2672 How do you define "cheap" difficulty? You mentioned stupid gimmicks and patterns that you can only memorize, but that isn't a feature exclusive to 37s, look at Amara or six trillion years, there's no way anyone could sightread or even comprehend what happens in the chart without slowing it down and memorizing the patterns. As for requiring an extra finger, that rule was already broken when don't fight the music was introduced, 0 people have APed it using two fingers and like only 1 to 3 people has FCed it using two fingers. I also don't understand what you mean by 'spam notes unnecessarily', I would say that both 37 charts are more in sync with the music than charts like ghost rule.
@@fereleth2672 i fc master charts and im telling you its a skill issue, if you cant even clear it how can you tell if something's """artifically""" difficult whatever the fuck that means. its a rhythm game of course its going to test ur dexterity and ability to read charts, believe it or not you have to practice to get good enough to play at that level and both of those charts are good and appropriate for the songs.
i still think this is master 33 just from playing it a few times.. has master 33 gimmicks and is DEFINITELY harder than almost all the master 32s.. playing from experience
if yaminabe and what's up pop exist why can't setsuna trip stay the way it was😭
I can't help but wonder why they felt the need to nerf this song. I mean, they already broke their game's philosophy by creating the lvl37 difficulty. Those charts are unable to be cleared by the same standard as lower leveled charts (utilizing two fingers maximum to clear). Basically, they said "fuck it" once for something game breaking, but oddly enough, decided to play it safe for something tame in comparison.
what did they nerfed ??
@@ei4163 this song's master lvl was 33 but they changed it to 32 for some reason
@@owo_982 ah okay thanks
ngl pre-nerf setsuna trip looked disgusting uncomfortable to play... a 33 would be cool but not some weird firetruck stuff like pre-nerf setsuna trip
미친 저걸 어케 AP함 굇수 잭님..
저도 했습니다
@@Jiyoon0503 당신도 굇수..
Every time I see these I think “man, that doesn’t look too hard” until the cute combo of big + small notes appear. After that I’m out. Don’t forget the flick every two seconds with billions bits of spam in between 😭
O,g same I hate the big and small combo
I couldn't even clear it, BUT I REACHED THE ENDING, I'm determined
I wonder if they nerfed it to a 32 because it’s a cover…most unit songs are 32 Master max with 33+ being Virtual Singer
That’s the pattern I noticed at least-it’s possibly they wanted to keep the cover songs at Master 32 level? Idk it’s strange af
Leo need has a 34 and it's a cover...
@@coal4818At the same time, that’s Roku-chounen and it was super early-game. If it were nowadays I doubt it would be so difficult.
@@coal4818 I forgot about that, my bad!
It's most likely because of the chart's quality, there are several parts like 0:45 (small notes) n 1:38 (single n double) r too forced to make it lvl 33, making it less fun than it can be. however jack said in the desc that he likes the cs ver more, so i guess it still depends on the person.
the only cover 32+ song is six trillion years and overnight story, they really should add more
After yaminabe I feel like anything in this game can happen now.
1:59 여기가 2손가락만 써서 넘기려고하니까 진짜 어렵던데...ㄷㄷ
난이도와는 별개로 너프는 너무 아쉬운 선택인것같습니다
(33레벨 곡 개수 부족, 신유형 갑툭튀 등으로 인한 채보의 변화 과정이 음악과 어울리지 않음 등등)
프로세카에 세츠나 트립 기다렸는데 나와서 감동입니다 ㅠㅠ
HARDでヒーヒー言ってる私は、この動画の譜面とスピードにめちゃくちゃ恐怖を感じた。
この方の動画全てに恐怖を感じる。(褒め言葉です)
I have no idea why they nerfed it. The game hardly has any 33s as it is and they could have just kept it as it was
they didn’t want a gumi song up there
@@roxie6971 our 8bit warriors
@@store3108they changed the map
The ending is pretty crazy, but I don't think that warrants it being a 33. Ghost rule is much harder, and it's a 32 as well. Of course, I haven't actually been able to play the chart (been having wrist pain lately 😔); going purely off of how it looks.
APおめでとうございます🎉本当うますぎやろ!!
와 저걸 어케 ap합니까.. 인간의 경지를 벗어나셨군요 잭님
A little bit disappointed with the chart nerf but it is what it is
this is probs the most fun chart imo
Wait, More More Jump finally got a 32 Master!?
It's supposed to be 33 but for some reason they nerfed it. (Probably last minute decisions)
the sounds he make only show hes human
난이도 32는 그렇게 어렵지 않은 것 같아서 lvl 33이 차트에 맞는 것 같아요. 이 차트는 나에게 매우 어렵습니다. 지울 수 없습니다.
クリアで精一杯な件
わかる
처음에 오..할만 한ㄷ..했는데 0:18 말을 잃었다..ㅎㅎ
역시 잭님
1빠네
i was so surprised when i played this chart for the first time
i'm surprised they add note change speed in lv32 song,
i predict someday they will put impossible difficulty above master for every song
And now they added it for a few seconds (note pauses) in lvl 30s and yaminabe + jinsei’s expert charts. What are they doing 😭
변속이 있는것부터가 탈 32렙
초반 빼고 변속 없지 않나요
실제 적용되는 변속 없디고 봐도 됨
뭔가 더 고랩곡들은 이게 뭐지 이런 느낌인데 이건 그냥 개어려워보임
I KNEW THE COVER WAS FAMILIAR I USED TO SPAM PPAY THIS SONG ON BANDORI
You're did great!!! Jackkk
я так понимаю, что секай заболел изменением скорости в песнях, да?
와 역시 대단해
Sometimes I figure that jack isn’t even human
개인적으로 패치 전 채보로 나오는게 더 재밌었을거 같네요😢
당신 로봇이지
요즘 레벨에 맞지 않는 채보가 많아진거 같아요
내가 저렇게 한다고 하면 손에 물집 생길듯 잭님 진짜 존경스러움...
야미나베로 변속 연습하고 바로 박아버리네
i broke my fingers trying to clear this lol, bros on a different plane
And this is a nerfed chart as well...
와!
너프 당했지만 채보 자체는 재밌었음
imo it's fine as a 32 (as a thumb player who cannot do 33 and above i think i could clear this)
형 AP 어캐 이리 잘해 ㄷㄷ
Im not gonna be surprised if they update some old song's to be "hard"
번외 난이도 나와서 대회 체보 부활했으면...
2:22 the reason why it should be 33
Edit : Ok it not rlly 33
Wdym that part is super easy, at least compared to 1:40
@@vincentxie4032 that also another one hard one (or maybe im just noob)
@Sally's Peanut Ohhhhhhh wait harder than championshiop ver? Edit:oh i see it rlly harder💀
OH CRAP. I SAW THAT SCROLL SPEED CHANGE
XAN YOU GIVE THE TIMESTAMP I CANT FIND IT
OHH NVM ITS ON 0:17
スゴすぎw
02:21
The Lv33 it’s the correct difficulty level why they changed in to lv32????
Either last minute decisions or just because this is a cover song.
FINALLY MMJ HAVE A 32
fear
딱 피지컬 요구량만 높은 적정 32라고 느낌
뇌지컬 요소는 없다시피 하고 그냥 두손가락으로 때려박는 것 같은 느낌
브뉴데보다 훨씬 쉬웠고 인비저블 급 혹은 그 이하라고 느낌
프세카.. 엄지러 언제까지 배척할 계획임..?
두번째 챔피언쉽 결승곡 커버는 모모점이 가져갔네요! 개인적으로 다음 결승곡 커버는 니고곡으로 나왔으면...
this is impressive
This chart is crazy, how lvl 32..
2:00 후반에 힘빠지는데 채보가 이딴식이면 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
저게 뭔.. 누가 32렙이야! 저건 너프해도 33 아니에요? ㅋㅋ ㅠㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Well Master 33 Setsuna Trip is overcharted in some parts imo. The official chart is better for me.
Yes
32보단 불렙이에요... 약간 32상위랑 33 전쟁이랑 사이?
자작채포 모바일로되나요?
This isnt even a 32. Thats a 29
1:45 츄니즘 다됐네 ㅋㅋ 왜 이딴걸 넣는거야 이제 본격적으로 츄니즘 느낌으로 가겠다는건가?
?? 이왜 32렙???
Bruh i barely cleared expert and the master hard really2 for thumb player like me
대회에서 나온 채보가 반응이 별로라서 이렇게 나왔나보죠
This looks nothing like lvl 32
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
It's literally supposed to be lvl 34
this is wayyy too easy for a 34
고룰보단 쉽네요 개인적으로는 32 적정이라고 느꼈음
고룰은 진짜 어려운데 꼬우지 않는 게 좋더라고요 ㄹㅇ 이번 건 채보가 미쳤..
엄지로 치는데 죽어버리고싶음
wtf
I'd much rather songs like this than the artificial difficulty of Yaminabe and What's Up Pop where they spam notes unnecessarily, add stupid gimmicks and patterns you can only memorize, and decide to make you use an extra finger just so they can point at it as the 'unbeatable' song for a day.
Skill issue = bad chart🤡
@@azurnal7573 literally
@@azurnal7573 I am still low-expert skill level clearing like 25s, a 34 is just as unbeatable to me as a 37, but when you LOOK at it you can see how 'cheap' the difficulty is, like the difference between a well-crafted boss battle in Dark Souls or a mod that spams 10x of every enemy, of course the latter is hard but that doesn't make it clever
@@fereleth2672 How do you define "cheap" difficulty? You mentioned stupid gimmicks and patterns that you can only memorize, but that isn't a feature exclusive to 37s, look at Amara or six trillion years, there's no way anyone could sightread or even comprehend what happens in the chart without slowing it down and memorizing the patterns. As for requiring an extra finger, that rule was already broken when don't fight the music was introduced, 0 people have APed it using two fingers and like only 1 to 3 people has FCed it using two fingers. I also don't understand what you mean by 'spam notes unnecessarily', I would say that both 37 charts are more in sync with the music than charts like ghost rule.
@@fereleth2672 i fc master charts and im telling you its a skill issue, if you cant even clear it how can you tell if something's """artifically""" difficult whatever the fuck that means. its a rhythm game of course its going to test ur dexterity and ability to read charts, believe it or not you have to practice to get good enough to play at that level and both of those charts are good and appropriate for the songs.
i still think this is master 33 just from playing it a few times.. has master 33 gimmicks and is DEFINITELY harder than almost all the master 32s.. playing from experience
Doesn’t look worse than ghost rule
@@dakaramotto. ghost rule is an exception that shits a 33 too lmaoo
UPDATE - I FULL COMBOD IT ON MASTER WITH THUMBS ON MY PHONE AND ITS DEFINITELY JUST A HARD 32
@@kiwi-my-beloved harder than intense voice imo (fellow thumbs player)