Can’t compare the two Gareth has competed & won everything at club level, his resume of honours is incredible. Plus he’s 32 now. he has nothing left to prove. Jesse is 29 & has been useless for years, had 1 good loan & now he’s a tiktoker.
The absolute cheek to even compare the 2 😂. Bale has essentially completed football and basically just wants to stay fit for Wales. Lingard doesn't have a tenth of the legacy
@@dansomething7742 completed football? He’s been a joke a Madrid for years. If you are going to talk about a player willing to just sit on the bench and collect a cheque then bale is the antithesis of that. He’s stole half of his medals as a squad player who couldn’t be left out because of the wage he was on and the fact that HE REFUSED to be sold before, purely and simply because he knew he was getting big money to practice his golf swing.. why do you think nobody was scrambling to sign him? Legends always find a club regardless, look at zlatan, he could walk into any team, because when he puts the shirt on he gives his all
The difference between Lingard and Bale is that Bale has achieved success. Compare their medals. One has loads of La Ligas, Champs leagues etc and the other has been a Chump in the league
Having lived in Madrid for a long time I can say that Simon is spot on about unbelievable respect and love for Steve McManaman, while Bale is despised.
Macca was a favourite of mine at Liverpool and I was very disappointed when and how he left but its still good to hear he was both successful there but well liked too from what you are saying 👍
Maccabees wasn't a weirdo, bale Carrie's himself different, something about the way you look that's what makes you a galactico, bales long head and Viking features would never have made him a fan favorite
Bale was an arrogant, disrespectful ungrateful sod towards everything about Madrid. The people, the club, his teammates. Victimised. What tosh. He couldn't be arsed. Ronaldo dented his ego and his agent resented Ronaldo too. Didn't step up to the plate after Ronaldo departure. Once he won CL in 2018, he put his feet up, took the piss and played golf, which allowed him to turn up in some sort of decent condition to drag Wales through play offs. Stole a living for 4 years. That's why Madrid fans can't stand him. UK media again syncophancy for one of their own and xenophobia towards foreign clubs.
Doesn't mean bale was at fault though, 2 sides of every story. If you sign a contract then be prepared to fulfill it. And that means both club and player
The vast majority of Real fans love Gareth Bale and were unhappy with how he was treated. It's common knowledge of how Real Madrid used their absolute control of the media to say otherwise. How are you unaware of this if you live in Madrid?
I'm a West Ham fan and Lingard was really good for us. He should come back and be good again. Unfortunately he is interested in money lifestyle and huge rewards with zero competition.
I think he wanted to go in January but United wouldn’t sell because we would have finished above them! It’s a shame because he would be in the World Cup squad right now. IMO
Isn't that a fair choice? If he just wants lots of money, an easier time and be the star of a team, isn't that a smart decision at 29 if he's accepted that he is not good enough for elite teams and will never win trophies?
Remember in school there would always be that kid who never got caught, always passed tests without revising, never rained when they forgot their coat...... Jesse Lingard is all of those kids rolled into one! The luckiest human ever!
7:31 Wayne’s spot on especially with the young players comment. Until about 5 years ago MLS has this fake it till you make it attitude and tried to pretend they were what they clearly aren’t a top 5 league in the world and that’s where a lot of criticism (justifiably imo) came/comes from. Now they’ve realized they need to become a selling league and can be a bridge for young players from across the world to places like England and Germany. Developing a few players at DC United and selling them on is good for Wayne’s resume as a coach.
Can’t compare Lingard and Bale. Bale has completed the game and just wants a fitness regime for the World Cup. J-Lingz hasn’t achieved anything (fringe player in Uniteds last league) in the game and goes being thought of as a joke.
Spot on Bale using it for prep/fitness for Qatar, Lingaard had his chances with club and country now heading for his last big pay day see how long he lasts over there, probably will start brightly and will disappear within 12-18months
The top Lad Proper Clobber Simon Jordan spitting out facts right again. No utter nonsense like Trevor Sinclair does time after time until Simon says it what it is TRUTH!!
You dont see the lengths Simon goes to defend a chairman. If a chairman killed someone, it would be "he put enough money into the club and community to earn the right to kill someone, and you as fans should be grateful he did!"
My advice to Sam and Trevor is simple! Do not embarrass yourself on live radio by attempting to outsmart Simon Jordan! Boys for the love of God do not do it yourself
What’s bizarre about lingard is he’s managed to spend 10 years of his career with the kind of demeanour you get when you see a rivaldo go and sign for a season for some Turkish team at the age of 39, has a bit of a laugh, doesn’t really play and doesn’t really care. Quite impressive really
Gareth Bale stats in the seasons RM won CL: 6 goals 4 assists 12 games 0 goals 3 assists 8 games 2 goals 2 assists 8 games 3 goals 2 assists 7 games 0 goals 0 assists 2 games Total 16 goals, 14 assists in 57 matches over 8 seasons. Lets admit that after the 1st season, he was just plain lucky to be carried by that squad.
@@neshod6415 82 goals, 46 assists in 176 games spread over 8 seasons in La Liga (10 goals 6 assists per season average from a €100m player playing in the front 3 of the attack). In the seasons Real won 7 goals 4 assists in 19 games 2 goals 2 assists in 16 games 1 goal 0 assists in 5 games There you go. All 3 titles just for namesake🙏🙏
13/14 and 17/18 he contributed enough he just stayed because they are a great team to be at and he got payed a lot of money , lived in a great part of Spain and won a lot of trophies.
He was not lucky, he has to thank his agent maybe for the Contract 😀 Great work with the stats....though I have to say he did contribute some important goals which were deciding factors for their 2-3 Champions League titles..that is why he still gets some respect
I think this might be the worst comparison I've ever seen. Wilshire was balling and injuries took his physicality and mobility away. If he was fortunate enough to have the fitness as Lingard as he would probably still be Arsenal captain to this day.
Players are human and if a club doesn't want you then you do the best for you and your family. ... Bale can play as much golf as he wants in the USA and his family will be happy
@@dannykamis4416 he’s an example of every other talented player who has come to united and underachieved- that tells me the club is the problem. Pogba is a brilliant player
True... I will always remember him for J ling and bling bling...nothing else. Same goes for Pogba...will remember him for that game at Mancity and hair cuts and social media posts...nothing else... Maybe his performance in WC...that it
In a career that typically ends in the mid thirties, talking about young and old like you're talking about men in other jobs in life, is stupid. Footballers grow up much faster than other kids due to the discipline and sacrifices they make, and the hard work they put in. When rewarded, they also let it get to their head unlike anyone else.
As usual pundits like sinclair havent a clue about anything. The Utter myths about bale about how badly he was treated when its the complete opposite, he was given so many chances under zidane and carlo and flopped himself on top of pulling himself out of matches with injurys to play for wales the next day.... When ronaldo left he was given the chance to take the team over and again he flopped didnt put the work and in the end benzema took it.
I'm not saying Gareth was perfect but it's staggering how much you've bought into the clubs entire narrative hook line and sinker. Ever spoke to an Ultras Sur, or any Madridistas? I didn't think so.
I don't want him back, fantastic player but if he has interest from a few premier league clubs, including us where he was on loan and had the best 6 months of his career, and he's considering MLS it doesn't look like he's taking his career seriously, prioritising money.
What choices? He had one choice a year and a half ago to go to West ham on loan he went, raised the roof. Came back never got played? What could he do??
Traffic in Washington DC is HELLACIOUS. It is as bad if not worse than central London but without the public transportation options you have in London. It’s so bad it detracts from the quality of living there and is worse than LA’s or Atlanta’s traffic.
I don't understand the Lingard hate, he had a successful loan at Birmingham, a successful loan at West Ham and has spent his entire career at his boyhood club. Has he wasted his talent by not leaving yes, have United let him down, yes but what exactly has he ever done wrong?
I love how he sits here and says zuma is making 6.5 million when the owners of these clubs and the epl are charging billions in tv and data rights. Hundreds of millions in sponsorships and the outrageous prices they charge for game matches and Concepcion’s
Simon is right about Bale, he shone for a year or so, especially the Copa Del Ray goal vs Barcelona. But unfortunately he started to just become bogged down. It’s a shame but it’s true.
tbf him and simon wouldnt be remembered for their achievements in football.actually tbf to lingard he did score in two domestic league finals for united so fair play
The English have no idea about Bale and Madrid. No idea. In terms of ability and production, Bale was one of the best ever in his position at Madrid. Madrid fans all know that and do appreciate him. About the booing? Everyone gets it we have higher standards and in Spain, the culture is different to England. Ronaldo got booed/ Zidane got booed. Bale's problem was that he started getting injured too frequently and when he came back from the injury he would be very very underwhelming and it kept repeating to the stage where Zidane the manager and the board later on decided he was not the one to rely on for the future and that we need transitioning. Bale's introverted personality definitely didn't help since he couldn't really speak Spanish well after 5-6 years of being there. Go watch an interview with ramos marcelo and few others with bale, he speaks English to them. Literally looks like a kid whos learnt Spanish for 1 month maybe even 1 week. Emery was ridiculed in England and became a meme because of his accent. Lets not forget that in England if you don't speak the language people don't respect you. The Spanish media can be toxic but England is just the same if not worse. Emery actually wasn't that bad in terms of what he did in arsenal and the media's depiction of him had a lot to play in him being sacked. The Madrid board didn't create rumours or news to force Bale out lol simply not true. only the english who never watch La liga would say that. Does not mean Bale is not a legend at Madrid, he rlly is - but we wanted him out because of his 600k wages and we wanted to rebuild , bale didn't wanna go cuz he likes spain/ no one gonna pay as much/ also he thinks of himself very highly he wouldn't go to a mid table or even top 4 club in a league. He knows he's topped all of them by far. He just wants to continue playing in LA get paid a bunch and maybe do more world cups. He's achieved so much and he knows he wont again with another club. He just had a early retirement, not comparable to Lingard. Different bread of players
Trev has no idea what he’s talking about. Bale is 33, won the lot, past his prime and looking at a retirement soon. Lingard is 29, not won jack, should be bang in his prime and ambitious. How can you say there’s not much difference.
Fair play to Jesse after watching his doc. Had a lot on his plate that showed in his dip in form. still has more than 99% of us because of his undoubted football skills. Best of luck to him. He seemed a good fit at West Ham shame something couldnt have been sorted out but i guess it was too far from home. Good Luck. Aaaaaaaaalbion.
I'd honestly take mason mount over lingard and Alli, forget about talent, Mason Mount works hard every game, he has talent, imo he is a very good player and is a key player for my club chelsea and I'd take him in a team over Alli and lingard.
"designated players", lol. The fact you had to state that certain players earnt that much means most don't, so what was your point? For good or bad you have a salary cap and very few players make the 6 million a year, which is a bit less than the 30 million he was making in Spain.
I agree with Simon a lot of the time but sometimes he just seems to wait to see what view the rest of the panel take and just take the opposite view for the sake of arguing.
I hate it when people talk about players having to do selfies or sign autographs, etc. They have a choice - either try and become a top player, earn millions each year and get recognised when you go out and about; or don't become a footballer and earn a living as an unknown, very likely on lower wages. No-one forces them to do it, they choose to do it, reap the rewards and suffer the consequences.
When he looks back and says to people I used to play for man united but by the way I never won anything big I only got a few smaller cups in nearly 10 years it’s disgraceful really
I'm an American....if I was an elite player I'm not playing in America. Def living here once a career is over but pro soccer here can't be takin serious until promotion and relegation are implemented into it's leagues.
I dont think lingard cares anymore at this point. He probably gets more notoriety from being a meme and at this point I think he wants to carry that on
did you forget Bale single handedly won the champions league against Liverpool scoring 2 second half goals, one being a bicycle kick. Bicycle kick in a bloody champions league final. Put some respect on Bale name
@@skgsinc1833 yes great goal , whats he done since ? Respect is is someone like zlatan with all his money having an acl in is mid30s and not retiring but coming back to top level football , thats respect
Lingard is just another example of a young player in the PL who got fame and money too early. When you start making crazy money that you haven't truly earned, then you naturally start to down tools. United are constantly overpaying players who have no right to earn those wages, and then wonder why said players plateau and peter out. United are not alone in this, ofc, but they are a good example.
That’s the first time mutterface has been sat down , he is very full of himself, well done Simon , Trevor runs scared of mutterface you can see it in his eyes 👍
Lingard when motivated clearly has talent that puts him in the top 10% of players in the PL. The key mistake was going back to Manyoo and Ole and thinking he was going to get loads of game time on a promise from Ole. He should have spent last season playing week in week out, getting goals in Europe, in the PL, being pushed by players like Bowen who would only have made him play better. Instead he has rotted away all season at a key part of his career. Bale is different, he has won things (albeit only because Real won them and he happened to be there, he hardly contributed to many of those trophies) and has been in retirement mode for a couple of years now.
Yep, he was sold a lie last summer and then Ronaldo and sancho was sold. Then in January, he was going on loan, then the greenwood thing thing hit, so man u refused him out on loan. Jesse after that has made a mess of his own making, but last season, he was lied to and sabotaged by man u.
Players want trophies and to play for their country at major competitions. Bale has already won everything, he will be with Wales whatever happens. Lingard will not play for England unless he is in good form for a good premier league side, he’s also not been a big part of success and winning trophies. Therefore Lingard still has something to achieve, Bale hasn’t.
I mean everyone here being so critical of Jesse even though he had to basically parent both his siblings, whilst his mother was very ill for a long time. He had to attend parents evenings and physically be there for the kids all the time due to the mother's condition. His grandfather also had cancer at the same time as this all happening we are all humans even footballers, there is a lot that goes on behind doors that we don't know so don't hate on him guys. -Arsenal fan
Lingard will not make more money in MLS. Chicharito, the biggest star in MLS, and second-highest paid player there, makes the same wage that West Ham offered Lingard.
I don't understand Simon's opinion here at all. He has a low view of everyone on social media except himself. And he thinks all players care more about money than wanting to play football. Jesse stayed at Utd whilst they couldn't decide what to do with their managers and has been there since he was 5 years old. Most players don't stay 22 years at one club. Then Jesse tried to leave to go to Newcastle when he was promised games and underplayed, and Utd tried to get the extra 13 million and screwed that deal up showing littler respect for Jesse or Newcastle. Jesse was clearly offered more money at Newcastle compared to West Ham, and is now only interested in money? He's only got 2 contracts left in his career assuming he can doesn't get a career ending injury, and Simon talks about him like he had a good 6 months at West Ham in his entire career. He's got 32 caps and 6 goals and was one of Englands best players at the 2018 world cup and is used to playing 25 games a season for Utd minimum until the last 2 seasons. And Simon can only remember his Tik Tok career? Moronic.
I remember years ago listening to Talksport Jesse getting a raise to 100k week and nearly spitting my coffee out. Stole a living all his life.
I had the same reaction. Apparently he's been bumped up to £150k since then. Couldn't tell you what for.
@@noogate2672 ole, the twat gave him a bumper of 30k and made it 130k a week 😆😆
Haha no wonder he hung on for so long! An absolute mercenary
Him and pogba frauds the two of them
@@derekbrettell8121 him and pogba stole a living
Can’t compare the two
Gareth has competed & won everything at club level, his resume of honours is incredible. Plus he’s 32 now. he has nothing left to prove.
Jesse is 29 & has been useless for years, had 1 good loan & now he’s a tiktoker.
The absolute cheek to even compare the 2 😂. Bale has essentially completed football and basically just wants to stay fit for Wales. Lingard doesn't have a tenth of the legacy
Spot on , was thinking the same thing
@@dansomething7742 completed football? He’s been a joke a Madrid for years. If you are going to talk about a player willing to just sit on the bench and collect a cheque then bale is the antithesis of that. He’s stole half of his medals as a squad player who couldn’t be left out because of the wage he was on and the fact that HE REFUSED to be sold before, purely and simply because he knew he was getting big money to practice his golf swing.. why do you think nobody was scrambling to sign him? Legends always find a club regardless, look at zlatan, he could walk into any team, because when he puts the shirt on he gives his all
@@dansomething7742 his options were Cardiff or the MLS 😂😂😂
Kilimimster 😂🤣🤣😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 brilliant
The difference between Lingard and Bale is that Bale has achieved success. Compare their medals. One has loads of La Ligas, Champs leagues etc and the other has been a Chump in the league
Having lived in Madrid for a long time I can say that Simon is spot on about unbelievable respect and love for Steve McManaman, while Bale is despised.
Macca was a favourite of mine at Liverpool and I was very disappointed when and how he left but its still good to hear he was both successful there but well liked too from what you are saying 👍
Maccabees wasn't a weirdo, bale Carrie's himself different, something about the way you look that's what makes you a galactico, bales long head and Viking features would never have made him a fan favorite
Bale was an arrogant, disrespectful ungrateful sod towards everything about Madrid. The people, the club, his teammates. Victimised. What tosh. He couldn't be arsed. Ronaldo dented his ego and his agent resented Ronaldo too. Didn't step up to the plate after Ronaldo departure. Once he won CL in 2018, he put his feet up, took the piss and played golf, which allowed him to turn up in some sort of decent condition to drag Wales through play offs. Stole a living for 4 years. That's why Madrid fans can't stand him. UK media again syncophancy for one of their own and xenophobia towards foreign clubs.
Doesn't mean bale was at fault though, 2 sides of every story.
If you sign a contract then be prepared to fulfill it. And that means both club and player
The vast majority of Real fans love Gareth Bale and were unhappy with how he was treated. It's common knowledge of how Real Madrid used their absolute control of the media to say otherwise. How are you unaware of this if you live in Madrid?
Jessie Lingard has let the time tick away all his career, he has never exerted himself, he has stole a living.
Depends on your goal in life. Making money is often people object. Once that is met, it's hard to stay motivated.
So has many other players .but I see the narrative here clearly 🙄
I'm a West Ham fan and Lingard was really good for us. He should come back and be good again. Unfortunately he is interested in money lifestyle and huge rewards with zero competition.
You didnt watch any games ...only highlights. Shut up
I think he wanted to go in January but United wouldn’t sell because we would have finished above them! It’s a shame because he would be in the World Cup squad right now. IMO
Isn't that a fair choice? If he just wants lots of money, an easier time and be the star of a team, isn't that a smart decision at 29 if he's accepted that he is not good enough for elite teams and will never win trophies?
@@thomastebbutt1601 spot on stole a livin him and drama queen pogba
If he goes somewhat else's he will prove u right sad as their is a quality player their but like so many pros over the years their attitude All wrong
The eternal 14 year old. Himself and pogba epitomize what's wrong with the modern player.
Amen
True but Pogba is far better and has actually won trophies
@@gboi264 isn't that hard to be better than Jesse. Though pogba isn't that special. Though he seemed to pull the wool over most people's eyes.
Facts
Can’t stand him, he was decent footballer however he act like he was Ryan Giggs
Man United didn't Screw Jessie Lingard . Jessie Lingard Screwed Jessie Lingard
Big facts 💯
Remember in school there would always be that kid who never got caught, always passed tests without revising, never rained when they forgot their coat...... Jesse Lingard is all of those kids rolled into one! The luckiest human ever!
I can feel brain cells dying when Sinclair speaks.
He's not the only one..."Bale's set up for life and all his ancestors for the next twenty generations"
@@tg007ful 🤣😂🤣🤣
@@tg007ful zźź
Always
Sinclairs or ours
Have you seen his tic-toks..very immature for a man nearly 30yrs old
Yeah watch them as soon a he does one. I think they are class 🤓
Lingard was the problem in recent years for united his attitude was disgusting I’m so glad he’s finally gone
Cancer of the club, him, pogba and marital
7:31 Wayne’s spot on especially with the young players comment. Until about 5 years ago MLS has this fake it till you make it attitude and tried to pretend they were what they clearly aren’t a top 5 league in the world and that’s where a lot of criticism (justifiably imo) came/comes from. Now they’ve realized they need to become a selling league and can be a bridge for young players from across the world to places like England and Germany. Developing a few players at DC United and selling them on is good for Wayne’s resume as a coach.
Can’t compare Lingard and Bale. Bale has completed the game and just wants a fitness regime for the World Cup. J-Lingz hasn’t achieved anything (fringe player in Uniteds last league) in the game and goes being thought of as a joke.
Spot on Bale using it for prep/fitness for Qatar, Lingaard had his chances with club and country now heading for his last big pay day see how long he lasts over there, probably will start brightly and will disappear within 12-18months
@@stevenellis2043 yeah that’s what happened with Lampard and Gerrard and they were legions more accomplished and talented then Lingard.
Sinclair talking contradictory drivel as usual
The top Lad Proper Clobber Simon Jordan spitting out facts right again. No utter nonsense like Trevor Sinclair does time after time until Simon says it what it is TRUTH!!
Too right mate, a football player could kill his wife and kids and Sinclair would probably say, "he didn't feel valued by the club"
You dont see the lengths Simon goes to defend a chairman.
If a chairman killed someone, it would be "he put enough money into the club and community to earn the right to kill someone, and you as fans should be grateful he did!"
My advice to Sam and Trevor is simple! Do not embarrass yourself on live radio by attempting to outsmart Simon Jordan!
Boys for the love of God do not do it yourself
Simon is spot on and lingard is no legend
What’s bizarre about lingard is he’s managed to spend 10 years of his career with the kind of demeanour you get when you see a rivaldo go and sign for a season for some Turkish team at the age of 39, has a bit of a laugh, doesn’t really play and doesn’t really care. Quite impressive really
Imagine Keane in same changing room as him and pogba hahah
Gareth Bale stats in the seasons RM won CL:
6 goals 4 assists 12 games
0 goals 3 assists 8 games
2 goals 2 assists 8 games
3 goals 2 assists 7 games
0 goals 0 assists 2 games
Total 16 goals, 14 assists in 57 matches over 8 seasons. Lets admit that after the 1st season, he was just plain lucky to be carried by that squad.
@@neshod6415 82 goals, 46 assists in 176 games spread over 8 seasons in La Liga (10 goals 6 assists per season average from a €100m player playing in the front 3 of the attack). In the seasons Real won
7 goals 4 assists in 19 games
2 goals 2 assists in 16 games
1 goal 0 assists in 5 games
There you go. All 3 titles just for namesake🙏🙏
@Sagar Ranjan watch cricket football in your thing.
@@williamjr6103 what's your thing junior? Being blind or illiterate?
13/14 and 17/18 he contributed enough he just stayed because they are a great team to be at and he got payed a lot of money , lived in a great part of Spain and won a lot of trophies.
He was not lucky, he has to thank his agent maybe for the Contract 😀
Great work with the stats....though I have to say he did contribute some important goals which were deciding factors for their 2-3 Champions League titles..that is why he still gets some respect
He's been so lucky Lingard honestly, some of the wages he was on was crazy, he's like wilshere 2.0
Wilshere actually turned up in the big games, dont compare him to Lingard smfh
@@oghaze9318 Turned up with crutches on....👌
Totally different scenarios. Wilshere had his career taken from him because of injuries. Lingard threw his away because he's a child.
I think this might be the worst comparison I've ever seen. Wilshire was balling and injuries took his physicality and mobility away. If he was fortunate enough to have the fitness as Lingard as he would probably still be Arsenal captain to this day.
No Wiltshire was 10x the player
Please replace trevor for a pundit who can compliment Simon Jordan. Trevor is out of his depth.
Lingard is not a has been, he is a 'Never Was'
Players are human and if a club doesn't want you then you do the best for you and your family. ... Bale can play as much golf as he wants in the USA and his family will be happy
Best transfer window in years clearing him and pogba out 🙏🏻
You didn’t clear pogba he chose to leave lol
@@civildiscourse7626 and for free 😀
@@civildiscourse7626 correct. Majority of fans will be grateful that he did chose to leave. Best thing he’s done in years
@@dannykamis4416 he’s an example of every other talented player who has come to united and underachieved- that tells me the club is the problem. Pogba is a brilliant player
True...
I will always remember him for J ling and bling bling...nothing else.
Same goes for Pogba...will remember him for that game at Mancity and hair cuts and social media posts...nothing else...
Maybe his performance in WC...that it
I love Jordan Simon! he speaks so well and so direct (most of the time). especially how well he uses his words.
Lingard is a PRAT . I wouldn't swap with him in a million years
I’d be a punchbag for 600k a week!! 🤣🤣
I don't think Trevor understands the meaning of elite.
Don’t think he understands the meaning of much 😂😂😂
Cause he never was?
Haha Trevor got proper annoyed at 1:38 when even he realised he was talking nonsense
People need to lay off Lingard, he's a young player who needs time to show his quality
In a career that typically ends in the mid thirties, talking about young and old like you're talking about men in other jobs in life, is stupid.
Footballers grow up much faster than other kids due to the discipline and sacrifices they make, and the hard work they put in. When rewarded, they also let it get to their head unlike anyone else.
He’s 30
@@jamesgreen8573 you’re RUINING it
He was never elite Trevor and neither were you !
And you are an elite hater
If you become a pro footballer that’s a measure of success. If you play in the top league and represent your country you are elite
@@robbiewizz658 elite level athletes are ronaldo Messi salah tom brady lebron james Michael jordan not lingard
As usual pundits like sinclair havent a clue about anything. The Utter myths about bale about how badly he was treated when its the complete opposite, he was given so many chances under zidane and carlo and flopped himself on top of pulling himself out of matches with injurys to play for wales the next day.... When ronaldo left he was given the chance to take the team over and again he flopped didnt put the work and in the end benzema took it.
I'm not saying Gareth was perfect but it's staggering how much you've bought into the clubs entire narrative hook line and sinker. Ever spoke to an Ultras Sur, or any Madridistas? I didn't think so.
Modern day footballers like Lingard, Bale, Rose & Alli are sort of players you can't carry for success as a football club for their public life's.
Trevor... Still getting a salary for nothing.
I agree with Simon bale sold himself short and it impacted his career stayed on the bench for years wasting away
He was on 675,000 a week why would he be bothered.
He was injured for almost half of the time he spend at madrid
how can you put trevor sinclair on talksport after how he treats women
Trevor talking over people man!! He's getting worse for that. 😭😂
Lingard taken seriously 😂😂😂 are you kidding
Gareth Bale is the greatest British player of all time…
Lingard has literally 89 starts in the Premier League. Stolen a career.
Sinclair is so pro to the players. Thank god for Simon. Provides a dimension no one else on talk sport does.
Simon literally gets paid too bully people 😂 he just smashes everyone
I love Simon when he speak fact!! 😂😂
Simon smashed the grannie out of everyone!
If ever I'm thinking how to improve my gramma, diction, and vocabulary, all I need to do, is listen to Simon Jordon!
he should’ve joined west ham last summer when he had the chance honestly
United told him he would play. They lied
@Real Alpha exactly i was gonna say that! they lied too him
@@rageowens yeah but they lied to him
Rangnick gave Lingard chances, but he blew them off.
@Real Alpha Just because your comment is true it does not make my comment false....
I don't want him back, fantastic player but if he has interest from a few premier league clubs, including us where he was on loan and had the best 6 months of his career, and he's considering MLS it doesn't look like he's taking his career seriously, prioritising money.
Gareth Bale and Jesse Lingard should not be in the same conversation
What choices? He had one choice a year and a half ago to go to West ham on loan he went, raised the roof. Came back never got played? What could he do??
Hand in a transfer request. That's what he didn't do.
He's only 29. Give him more time.
Traffic in Washington DC is HELLACIOUS. It is as bad if not worse than central London but without the public transportation options you have in London. It’s so bad it detracts from the quality of living there and is worse than LA’s or Atlanta’s traffic.
These guys compare every player to the perfect prototype. There is a reason why elite players are elite.
I don't understand the Lingard hate, he had a successful loan at Birmingham, a successful loan at West Ham and has spent his entire career at his boyhood club. Has he wasted his talent by not leaving yes, have United let him down, yes but what exactly has he ever done wrong?
Lingard was the biggest snake in the changing room
I love how he sits here and says zuma is making 6.5 million when the owners of these clubs and the epl are charging billions in tv and data rights. Hundreds of millions in sponsorships and the outrageous prices they charge for game matches and Concepcion’s
If owned a club I would never ever offer a player like this that sort of money. I’d rather die on my sword
Wow well done Rooney you managed to use disrepectful in the right context who says your time at derby was wasted
Simon is right about Bale, he shone for a year or so, especially the Copa Del Ray goal vs Barcelona. But unfortunately he started to just become bogged down. It’s a shame but it’s true.
Lingard is one lazy player. The MLS will match his attitude for sure.
The mls is bad but you can't be lazy at all you will stick out
Lot of people dont like Simon Jordan, and yeah can be arrogant but speaks most sense out of all pundits on this show
tbf him and simon wouldnt be remembered for their achievements in football.actually tbf to lingard he did score in two domestic league finals for united so fair play
@@jimmelton5846 still achieved more in football than the two tbh
Don't be hating on steve mcmanaman, if he was playing now he would a starter in the liverpool or man city or real madrid team
I was listening until Trevor said Bale did well when he came back to spurs...COME ON Trev...
"eVeRyOnE wAs ScRaMbLiNg FoR LiNgArD's SiGnAtUrE iN tHe PrEmIeR lEaGuE..."
Erm, no they weren't mate, wtf are you on about!?!
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The English have no idea about Bale and Madrid. No idea. In terms of ability and production, Bale was one of the best ever in his position at Madrid. Madrid fans all know that and do appreciate him. About the booing? Everyone gets it we have higher standards and in Spain, the culture is different to England. Ronaldo got booed/ Zidane got booed. Bale's problem was that he started getting injured too frequently and when he came back from the injury he would be very very underwhelming and it kept repeating to the stage where Zidane the manager and the board later on decided he was not the one to rely on for the future and that we need transitioning. Bale's introverted personality definitely didn't help since he couldn't really speak Spanish well after 5-6 years of being there. Go watch an interview with ramos marcelo and few others with bale, he speaks English to them. Literally looks like a kid whos learnt Spanish for 1 month maybe even 1 week. Emery was ridiculed in England and became a meme because of his accent. Lets not forget that in England if you don't speak the language people don't respect you. The Spanish media can be toxic but England is just the same if not worse. Emery actually wasn't that bad in terms of what he did in arsenal and the media's depiction of him had a lot to play in him being sacked. The Madrid board didn't create rumours or news to force Bale out lol simply not true. only the english who never watch La liga would say that. Does not mean Bale is not a legend at Madrid, he rlly is - but we wanted him out because of his 600k wages and we wanted to rebuild , bale didn't wanna go cuz he likes spain/ no one gonna pay as much/ also he thinks of himself very highly he wouldn't go to a mid table or even top 4 club in a league. He knows he's topped all of them by far. He just wants to continue playing in LA get paid a bunch and maybe do more world cups. He's achieved so much and he knows he wont again with another club. He just had a early retirement, not comparable to Lingard. Different bread of players
Trev has no idea what he’s talking about. Bale is 33, won the lot, past his prime and looking at a retirement soon. Lingard is 29, not won jack, should be bang in his prime and ambitious. How can you say there’s not much difference.
Fair play to Jesse after watching his doc. Had a lot on his plate that showed in his dip in form. still has more than 99% of us because of his undoubted football skills. Best of luck to him. He seemed a good fit at West Ham shame something couldnt have been sorted out but i guess it was too far from home. Good Luck. Aaaaaaaaalbion.
Arsenal fan. Never got what the big deal was with Jesse or Ali for that matter..I don't see the same hoopla with Foden..yet he's a way better player!
I'd honestly take mason mount over lingard and Alli, forget about talent, Mason Mount works hard every game, he has talent, imo he is a very good player and is a key player for my club chelsea and I'd take him in a team over Alli and lingard.
The fill in couldn't be more clueless...designated players in MLS earn significant wages...
Z. Shaqiri is making $6mil/year in Chicago.
"designated players", lol. The fact you had to state that certain players earnt that much means most don't, so what was your point? For good or bad you have a salary cap and very few players make the 6 million a year, which is a bit less than the 30 million he was making in Spain.
I say he will be remembered for that goal against crystal Palace in the fa Cup final
I agree with Simon a lot of the time but sometimes he just seems to wait to see what view the rest of the panel take and just take the opposite view for the sake of arguing.
That's because he's so flipping good at it.
“Spend less time advertising boohoo” 😭😂😂😂😂
Great segment , Trevor bang on from footballers perspective.
I hate it when people talk about players having to do selfies or sign autographs, etc. They have a choice - either try and become a top player, earn millions each year and get recognised when you go out and about; or don't become a footballer and earn a living as an unknown, very likely on lower wages. No-one forces them to do it, they choose to do it, reap the rewards and suffer the consequences.
Lets be real Blackburn in the championship will win the MLS
Sinclair seems to love hearing himself speak, constantly talking over the other two
When he looks back and says to people I used to play for man united but by the way I never won anything big I only got a few smaller cups in nearly 10 years it’s disgraceful really
Horrible monitoring. Talking all over each other. Get Jim white back
I'm an American....if I was an elite player I'm not playing in America. Def living here once a career is over but pro soccer here can't be takin serious until promotion and relegation are implemented into it's leagues.
I refuse to watch it, cos of the whole penalty shootout cos they can't understand draws, thing. I don't even know if that still happens.
The audacity to to even call Jesse in the same sentence as bale
Does anyone know did west ham actually try and buy him,if so how much did they offer utd for him
I dont think lingard cares anymore at this point. He probably gets more notoriety from being a meme and at this point I think he wants to carry that on
Sinclair "bale fought for his place "🤣🤣🤣
did you forget Bale single handedly won the champions league against Liverpool scoring 2 second half goals, one being a bicycle kick. Bicycle kick in a bloody champions league final. Put some respect on Bale name
@@skgsinc1833 yes great goal , whats he done since ? Respect is is someone like zlatan with all his money having an acl in is mid30s and not retiring but coming back to top level football , thats respect
@@pjduff7577 that's dumb it's like saying what has Messi done lately. Messi is still the GOAT
@@skgsinc1833 messi is 35 and has done it fir 16 years consistently, so going back to my point , since that goal what has he done ?
@@pjduff7577 this is a pointless argument
Lingard is just another example of a young player in the PL who got fame and money too early. When you start making crazy money that you haven't truly earned, then you naturally start to down tools. United are constantly overpaying players who have no right to earn those wages, and then wonder why said players plateau and peter out. United are not alone in this, ofc, but they are a good example.
That’s the first time mutterface has been sat down , he is very full of himself, well done Simon , Trevor runs scared of mutterface you can see it in his eyes 👍
Man’s desperate to make Jessy sound elite 😂😂😂💯
W ham loved him he dissed them and deserves DC UNITED 😂😂
Lingard when motivated clearly has talent that puts him in the top 10% of players in the PL. The key mistake was going back to Manyoo and Ole and thinking he was going to get loads of game time on a promise from Ole. He should have spent last season playing week in week out, getting goals in Europe, in the PL, being pushed by players like Bowen who would only have made him play better. Instead he has rotted away all season at a key part of his career. Bale is different, he has won things (albeit only because Real won them and he happened to be there, he hardly contributed to many of those trophies) and has been in retirement mode for a couple of years now.
Yep, he was sold a lie last summer and then Ronaldo and sancho was sold. Then in January, he was going on loan, then the greenwood thing thing hit, so man u refused him out on loan.
Jesse after that has made a mess of his own making, but last season, he was lied to and sabotaged by man u.
Players want trophies and to play for their country at major competitions. Bale has already won everything, he will be with Wales whatever happens. Lingard will not play for England unless he is in good form for a good premier league side, he’s also not been a big part of success and winning trophies. Therefore Lingard still has something to achieve, Bale hasn’t.
Now u mention it, Sterling has exactly the same complex with Danny Rose.
How have you come to that conclusion?
@@jamesgunn7 they're black I'm guessing
@@jamesgunn7 Not similar, exactly the same.
@@thelegendthatischels Lame.
Your Boring😴
Realistically when did anyone class him as an ‘elite’ player? I don’t see anything wrong with him going the MLS at all, seems right for all parties.
I mean everyone here being so critical of Jesse even though he had to basically parent both his siblings, whilst his mother was very ill for a long time. He had to attend parents evenings and physically be there for the kids all the time due to the mother's condition. His grandfather also had cancer at the same time as this all happening we are all humans even footballers, there is a lot that goes on behind doors that we don't know so don't hate on him guys. -Arsenal fan
Lingard will not make more money in MLS. Chicharito, the biggest star in MLS, and second-highest paid player there, makes the same wage that West Ham offered Lingard.
Exactly the same as rashford, gets the big money too soon and they get comfortable
He's a tik tok whopper. Go to the USA and double team grannies with Rooney at DC United
Lol it cracks me up when Trevor talks over Sam, you can tell he’s boiling inside
As Jim would say spot on Simon
I can feel Simon's pain listening to them two's dribble about the MLS.
I don't understand Simon's opinion here at all. He has a low view of everyone on social media except himself. And he thinks all players care more about money than wanting to play football. Jesse stayed at Utd whilst they couldn't decide what to do with their managers and has been there since he was 5 years old. Most players don't stay 22 years at one club. Then Jesse tried to leave to go to Newcastle when he was promised games and underplayed, and Utd tried to get the extra 13 million and screwed that deal up showing littler respect for Jesse or Newcastle. Jesse was clearly offered more money at Newcastle compared to West Ham, and is now only interested in money? He's only got 2 contracts left in his career assuming he can doesn't get a career ending injury, and Simon talks about him like he had a good 6 months at West Ham in his entire career. He's got 32 caps and 6 goals and was one of Englands best players at the 2018 world cup and is used to playing 25 games a season for Utd minimum until the last 2 seasons. And Simon can only remember his Tik Tok career? Moronic.