@@-QuickNick- in a way, yes... with cheap stuff you need to be careful and you have to do research, check reviews for compatibility, etc. On the other hand for example, if you buy the biggest and best branded PC PSU with 5 years of warranty and whatnot, you won't have power problem for sure. Same applies to motherboards, coolers, cases, etc, etc. All you need to check is socket compatibility...
Also, UA-cam is full of expensive builds. Whatever you're planning to build, Jays2cents/Paulshardware,/Bitwit/Gamersnexus/etc,etc. has already built, so you just take a ready made shopping list...
Yep, if I had $5000, I most likely have enough money not to worry about the power bill, so I'd just buy a modern server with at least two modern Xeon E5 processors and a ton of ECC RAM.
even though I've had a plex server for years I always love watching build videos... not sure what it is but they never get old :) Great budget build, that case has a unique layout
New to Plex, just invested in a HDHomeRun, now looking to build a private Plex cloud from my house with my family in 'Rona lockdown so we can all save a fortune on Netflix etc. Very informative channel. I love the fact the older legacy cards can be re-purposed to such good use. Subscribed.
Busy doing (serious) pricing and investigations into many different types of plex servers (PC, NAS Bays, etc) and this has proved extremely useful and given me plenty of food for thought... Great video!
Well done. This is very well thought-out for a practical home NAS. 4c/8t gives you spare threads for containers and small vms. Since it is small and quiet, you can put Kodi on it and plug it into your TV. Don't worry about ECC RAM and ZFS. The people who insist on it are talking about enterprise servers with hundreds of TB of storage and mission critical data. It's not like ZFS corrupts your files without ECC. I run ZFS all over the place, from my media server to my laptop (ZFS is amazing for dual boot macOS and Linux), and even on a Pi4. I've never had a problem. If you don't mind the command line, a minimalist Debian or Ubuntu server install with a ZFS root and services in Docker is really easy to maintain. Docker and ZFS work really well together.
I just finish installing everything on my server and I'm loving it. I decided to go Debian but with Plex, and added a steam cache along with some other goodies. I just dreading to edit this video
@@NovaspiritTech Be careful. UA-cam burnout is real. Better to take a day or two and not "dread" editing. Your videos are different and interesting and I'd hate to see you quit.
@@l33t00r No, I won't. Anything really important is backed up. I'm only saying "don't worry about ECC" for home NAS and other personal applications where the risk isn't worth the expense/trouble of ECC. Just like how most people edit videos on normal PCs, while commercial editing contracts often mandate Xeon ECC workstations. UA-camrs laugh at the expense of the new mac pro while Hollywood is buying pallet-loads of them.
If you're looking for higher capacities (meaning 6+ TB, ideally 8+ TB), there are external HDDs which are actually WD Red (or whichever equivalent of another brand), just with different label and guarantee. Of course, the guarantee isn't as good, but many people who are in the home server market "shuck" the drives out of these external HDDs because they're significantly cheaper. Also, the ECC RAM in ZFS is kind of a myth, non-ECC RAM is just as bad in ZFS as in any other file system. It's just that it's usually chosen because of its reliability and not using ECC RAM makes it less reliable, so it kinda defeats the point of using ZFS.
I ran just a bare bones install of Ubuntu server for years on a Celeron j1800, it worked well for many years. At the time I was only driving gigabit ethernet so it worked out very well. It sounds like you know what you're doing with a bare metal install of Linux so personally I'd just roll your favorite distro and install Plex on top of that for simplicity.
@@NovaspiritTech I'm close to the same build. However.... I went with a 2600 af instead of an apu for 40 bucks more. Installed Antix for 50mb ram usage. Shared the data drives and set kodi(dlna) to auto start. Activate auto scrape for new files added. Then declcoked to 12 threads at 2.0 ghtz, for power sipping. Turned on post with errors, and wake on lan. Then pulled video card. It boots and runs. Can add data off my main system with network share, which is not the same as desktop share. No video required on the server. Transcodes nicely for single user, haven't found its limit yet
Would you guys ever consider SSD? Media server have minimal write and heavy read. These traits are a match for ssd drives which have infinite read and limited writes. As well as power sipping. However their surge and shock resistance is much weaker.
@@dobermanownerforlife3902 if you're rolling your own base os. You could combine software raid with lvm + turbocache and get similar performance benefits without worrying about data loss due to faulty SSD.
I have the same case. Looks pretty neat, doesn't have some fancy add-on junk, and with only two 120mm fans running at low RPM the case itself is whisper quiet. 4 WD Red drives also operate silently.
I have couple of ZFS (8 and 16TB) NAS's that's been running 24/7 for almost 10 years now -- w/o ECC memory, just regular non-ECC RAM. One of them is down, but only due to a PSU fail. Not one data corruption during all that time. Of course, your mileage may differ, but from chatting with some of the developers, I think that requiring ECC mem is one of the many myths surrounding ZFS. Another being requiring 1GB RAM/1TB storage (or some such nonsense). From my experience, just get the fastest SSD for cache and ZIL, turn off dedup, and give it plenty of memory (ZFS will put it all to good use). I can't think of using anything else than ZFS for a NAS. Don't let some of the myths detract you from using it. Might have to brush up on your Solaris or *BSD. But say what you will about *BSD's, but they're damn stable -- never a crash on those NAS's. Not sure about the Linux port of ZFS. Heard it's gotten pretty good, but not sure if I trust it, since Linux itself is less stable.
I've used ZFS for about half that time in a 24/7 operation. Non ECC murdered the pool at around the 75% full mark. Lost everything on that pool, nothing was recoverable. And I've seen the argument for and against. The data corruption from everything I read, was directly due to the non-ecc ram. If there ever was a question about could my data be lost on ZFS - use that ECC.
The included power supply would be a huge no from me. It's not about how many molex connectors you get, it's about the fact that a bad PSU can easily cause system instability or even kill your hardware.
I actually did this same thing! My otd total was about 570 bucks. 12GB DDR4 A ryzen 5 (2nd gens were on sale) MATX build! 1650 super (bought it for emby because I provide for like 7 people) andnused the patched drive for unlimited transcode streams) Salvaged Toshiba drives from my old powerade servers That CPU peg you're seeing is because the proc is still being used for audio transcoding. I wish I had known this when I was building. Also for best results stream at 1.5mps on mobile to eliminate buffering I've been slowly upgrading my drives, working my way to 12TB drives for a huge bluray collection. Great video!
Upgraded my pfsense box to a 3200g , gigabyte b450d3h, and 16gb ddr4. Carried over the ssd , case, psu, intel lan card,etc. Works like a chano for gigabit internet.
Nice intro-level video - but there is some information that really does need to be corrected: 1) "Lots of other cards are recommended like the P2000 but the cost is high so we're going with this other one to get better bang for it's buck" - Cool! Agreed, the P2000 is expensive. But if you're not going to select it you should at least tell your users why it's the card of choice. The one you selected will cap out at 2 hardware transcodes at 1 time. The P2000 does not do this. So if you are going to have more than 2 streams at once you should be considering the extra money to not over-tax your CPU with transcoding that 3rd stream. 2) "with hardware transcoding turned on the CPU is being used to move the media around" . Not really true. The 20% ish usage you are seeing in your video is actually because of the audio transcoding (a video card with hardware transcoding will still only do video) so you can't just ignore the CPU all togeather. If in your example you used a 4k video, that CPU is still going to have to do the audio transcoding so it's still got to be an ok CPU for how many streams you want. 3) "This graphics card can support up to 4 streams without having much of an issue" . Nope! Not true, see comment #1. The video card you selected can not do more than 2 streams at once, it's capped in the firmware / driver. 4) "If you unlock it with the patch drivers you can do that, in reference to #3" well - ok, first of all, those patch drivers don't work on everything. But second, you should let your users know that Nvidia does check for that and nuke cards from time to time. I actually know the engineer who workes on that project. If you're going to tell your users to do something you should also tell them the risks. 5) "use the reds because they are going to last a lot longer" well - that's also not true. The MTBF on the red's vs other drives is actually the same. The Red's (or similar from other MFR's) are actually specifically designed for raid. The difference between the other drives (like green) and the raid drives (like red) is the TLER support on the drive (time-limited error recovery). This limits the amount of time it tries to read the data in a raid environment. You sue this because of the conflicts that happen inside a raid array. A green drive (as an example because they are cheaper) actually doesn't fail, but your raid array will throw an error and think it failed because of the lack of TLER support.
With "cheap" hard disks usually less is described in the documents, one is sparing with exact information. The WD RED is the slightly better desktop (consumer garbage) drive that has double the load/unload cycles of the WD Blue, and gives a value for the transfairs that are allowed to roll over the drive, which is missing on the Blue. Asked again, if I use for example with unRAID a modified graphics driver to use 3-4 instead of the 2 usual H.265 HW decodings (for example with Plex, Jellyfin) then it could be that Nvidia sabotages the graphics card, destroys it ?
Thanks for putting the quadros in my decision. You just saved me from upgrading my entire system. Instead I just bought a quadro p620 on ebay used for 96bucks, they had 10 off now coupon.Cheaper than the p400 currently,doubt it helps my needs much. But it does have double the memory bandwidth and like double the cuda cores. Any other upgrade was going to run me least 185+, for something that wouldn't perform nearly as good. So was going to rebuild fully. The quadro revived my system for 4k. Thanks. Damn shame the community for plex doesn't recommend this more.Hell reading plex support would have you thinking you can only hardware accelerate with an intel cpu with quick-sync, which is a LIE..... Funny they don't even know their own software.
You're right man. The Chenbro SR30169 Tower Case SR30169T2-250 seems to be a pretty decent case for the money. I did some digging and I was pretty shocked at what I found.
Cable management was fine bro. I'm doing a build like this soon to connect all the PC's in the house (network) so my kids and myself can unload saves to the NAS I'm building. I like this case a lot!
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@@darenthoman9962 yes it definitely is, it's very flexible! The only problem I have with it is the Docker UI and a lack for a VM UI! If you don't really need that then that would be my preferred choice (even over FreeNAS)
The thing is if you have some experience with docker, you'll always want to work with it in bash rather than a GUI so that shouldn't be a problem. There would also be portainer for it which is the single best Docker WebUI I know (prove me wrong, if you can ;) ). Also KVM with libvirt and Virtual Machin Manager is quite easy to use, you just need a PC running Linux and a ssh connection to your server! The greatest thing about OMV is that it's based on Debian Buster which is widely supported and there are a lot (and I really mean a lot) of guides for it which all are applicable to OMV, too.
That is a good and reliable PSU. Just to let you know, after 4-5 years they have a disease that the 4 pin will not push enough power and the fans will work on full speed and you won't have a display. But, they won't explode or something like that :)
A lack of ECC ram wont cause more of an issue on ZFS than other systems. In fact, it'll at least alert you to the majority of the problems that bad ram will cause.
Got a question for you I was planning on building a small server for my home using mobo Gagabyte a520i with ddr4 ram and installing free nas on it. So when he said you could corrupt your data using free nas I wasn’t sure what he meant would I be ok with this setup I just mentioned
thedog556 It matters if a drive dies and it needs replacing. SMR can cause issues when it pauses to move data to the SMR area. This can be interpreted as hard drive failure.
I got 2 RED's shortly before the quarantine and they turned out to be standard drives (EFRX) instead of SMR (EFAX) drives. so I lucked out. The SMR issue only matters if you are using ZFS and it has to perform resilvering. I don't think it affects mirrored striped volumes as badly.
Like it but need more. What are your thoughts on the 1920x build? I keep looking and you can get the cpu on sell sometimes for $150-160. Case about $80-100. Psu $80-100. Ram $100. Get a cooler and I like you gpu. Boards are $200+ used. So about $700-800 w/o mass storage. Been looking at a gaming vm build on a budget. 12core 24 threads make a great start point. The upgrade path gets you to 2990wx.(wait a year or so to see if it drops to under $200). I do like your build. You can upgrade to 3700x(65w). So you would have 8 cores 16 threads.
I just built a NAS with Proxmox and OMV. So far it’s doing great, similar budget build. Will use for NAS to replace an old Drobo FS and will migrate a test Plex server onto a more flexible platform. I will also use it to run containers and VMs. Thanks for this video, it confirms many of my choices.
@@jimpotash9009 I read spice and vnc doesn't allow the gpu passthrough so using rdp. I'm stuck at the nvidia code 43 with an old gt710 card. Just going to do some old gaming so don't need anything fancy.
Cool little budget build. I dig that case. I agree with one of the other fellows that commented here. That FSP power supply should be decent enough until the "budget" can afford an upgrade. I've often thought about putting a plex server together but I don't really have a usage case for it just yet. I just store my media on a NAS and watch it via Kodi on an Nvidia Shield TV. I just don't have much need to access it outside of my house. But if I ever do Plex or Emby are going to be what I go with.
I bought an IBM X3650 M3 for less than £200 with 96GB RAM, 2x 3.06GHz X675 hex core Xeons and the system has the capacity for 8x SFF 2.5" drives as stock. Added a second SAS/SATA backplane for another 8 drives and expansion card (about £100) and a Quadro p400 for transcoding (£75) with the modded driver. Downside it is power hungry but I can VPN onto the network and bring it up and power down via the machines management interface. Runs Plex on Mint and is very stable. I also added a few 4TB drives in RAID5 for films and 2x1TB in RAID1 for music and one SSD for OS which I need to also use for metadata but not done that yet. Not the fastest of machines but for Plex it works well. Worth bearing in mind ex-production servers, but I'd be a little careful with Dell R710's - mine is very funny about drives. I should update / change the RAID card in that machine but out of the two I've had a lot more ease with the IBM and have had no issues with drive compatibility. Great video! First time watching your channel. Thanks! Subscribed.
Been rocking freenas 11 on an old Lenovo with 2 6gb hgst deskstars and 4 GB of non-ECC Samsung ram for two years, CPU is an I5-3330 and I have about 500 movies on it, I can honestly say that I have had zero issues with zfs and non ecc ram. Buy good sticks with Samsung chips and I don't think you will ever have to worry about errors corrupting your data when freenas scrubs the drive pools. Just my two cents!!
The Ryzen 3200G has built in hardware transcoding for 4K already, although it may not be as good nvidia. I’m using a 240GE and Jellyfin with hardware transcoding enabled and it works well.
Interesting build but would be interested to mention the power consumption / cost since this is major factor for server besides the initial investment.
Proxmox is a Debian based level 1 hypervisor if you need to add another machine down the road for more storage capacity or more VM's and has its own web interface GUI plus plus
Just started to build one as a NAS with 4TB with only two drives but can add more after...Thinking of using unRaid. - ASUS Prime B550M-A/CSM - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 X 16GB) DDR4 3200 - 2 Seagate IronWolf NAS 4TB - Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe (caching) - Silverstone Tek Micro-ATX PS07B Coming around 870 USD down here in Singapore (without unraid license). This is missing a graphics card and a PSU that I already have. Really looking for good network transfer speed for some video and photo editing.
Wow! What a fantastic video! Nice to know I don't need too stout of a GPU to accommodate 3-4 users. since this is such a clean budget build, I may build two: oneedia Server (with GPU), and one CCTV NAS (with more storage). I'm checking out the OS install video next.
For my NAS/server I use freenas on top of proxmox. I passed all the hard drives through directly to the freenas VM because when using ZFS it's best to let the VM access the drives as close to block level as possible
I had similar setup but running on top of esxi 6.7. The SMB performance was terrible for some reason, so I have switched over to xpenology, runs much better with less resources.
@@BrianThomas I bet he is running a torrent version lol W server datacenter lol and he is too lazy to learn linux ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but yeah what ever floats peoples boat lol
@@BrianThomas Yep! I'm actually looking into Linux. Used it before, and I like it alot. That build is super jank, but for the time being It were all i had xP
@@charlesdean03 nope, fully licensend version! Got it while doing my Bachelor's degree, School had unlimited access to Microsoft product w/ lifetime licenses for students.... it's almost too good to be true, I know!!... And Dude, don't make assumptions! Used Linux and I like it too. I'll bet you would do the same if you had an license xP
@@B1tm4n lol I have way more lic and unlike your bachelor and time to look at peoples LinkedIn 🤣🤣 I work. But hey what ever floats your boat in thinking now that your bachelor is good while my my masters is a joke 🤣🤣🤣... Have a good life
what about using IGPU ? like HD630, i have read that they can transcode up to 6 times 4k transcodes to 1080p. I remember looking at I7 8750h mini pc that you can find for pretty cheap on aliexp back then now there is maybe even better deal..
Please help me understand why don't u use Windows. I feel it should be easier using a familiar OS (for me) instead of learning new OS again plus the compatibility with many of the windows computers at home?
470$: yes, it has more power than a commercial NAS; yes: you can add easily drives... But... What about power consuption? And operanting noise? Can you resell it? Can you easily increase the diskspace? Are you confident to expose it over the network?
Hey mate, I would like to buy the graphics card but there are two models one is nvidia quadro p400 HP and another one is nvidia quadro p400 Professional. So which one should I go for for my NAS and Plex server?
How about electricity consumption comparison? Is Synology more worth? Even we can't upgrade the hardware. I'm would build an Nas server... Maybe. U can hel me, how can we build Nas server with low power consumption
Noob question... is a high end gaming pc (2021) with usb 3 attached 10-14tb storage for plex media files ok? Or is the usb HD going to still be a huge bottleneck vs a modern nas? Also alot of the nas setups on YT still use spinning disks? Any reason they aren't SSD variants atm?
My only issue with you saying this can transcode 4K is that you're not specifying what your Bitrate is for Big Buck Bunny in 4K. I looked it up and it's roughly 8.5Mbps compared to a real 4K-UHD movie like Avengers: Endgame (44.1Mbps) That number is kinda low, considering a movie like Ready Player One is 79.1Mbps The resolution may be 4K, but using a low bit-rate 4K video and saying it can transcode 4K I think is misleading. Even with a 1080p Blu-ray, Avengers: Endgame bitrate is 31.8Mbps. Some might say, you can use Handbrake and lower the bitrate, but keep the 4K Resolution. That's very true, however, that would take HOURS to encode, at which point (not to be rude) why are you worried about building a budget Plex server? In order to transcode a 4K movie title, you're going to need a more powerful system. I personally have a GT-730 in my Plex build and that thing can barely play 1 4K video stream, much less transcoding it... Haha that's cute. I know the Quadro is strictly designed for data processing, compared to a 730 that's designed for "gaming". However at the end of the day, the numbers still don't add up. ================================================================================= PS: I did watch this entire UA-cam video prior to commenting to make sure I didn't miss anything. PPS: My movies are direct rips from my 4K and Blu-ray physical collection (I know both resolutions are written to Blu-ray discs). Avengers: Endgame - 4K (HEVC Main 10 HDR) 44.1Mbps - 55.79 GB Avengers: Endgame - 1080p (H.264) 31.8Mbps - 40.23 GB Ready Player One - 4K (HEVC Main 10 HDR) 79.1Mbps - 77.38 GB
I am looking to build my own NAS and plex server, would this still be the best setup to go with? Should I look for a used server to start my build? Thanks in advance.
4:02 You said it can't Direct Play 4K over Wi-Fi cuz the 4K stream is too much for Wi-Fi? I've got a Synology DS920+ that can Direct Play 4K 30-40Mbps streams over Wi-Fi to my Shield Pro without any issues. Not sure why Wi-Fi would be a limiting factor here...
Hello. Nice video. Helped a lot, mainly that part with Quadro P400. My question is : you are using UDOO BOLT V8 for GPU test (2:22). What HW part are you using that have the ability to connect GPU to M.2 NVME slot ? Im unable to find it anywhere, can you point me please ? Thank you
If you unlock the p400 how many independent transcodes can you accomplish? I.e. can handbrake transcode a file at the same time it is doing a couple of Plex transcodes
I have Plex running on a Pi4 with 4Gb RAM on a dual SATA board with 2x 2.5" WD Red (NASware 3.0) 2.0Tb in a small case, whole thing is the size of a small router and I have 4Tb on there with low power consumption (25 W). almost looks like a smaller DVD player, I have the Pi4 wired to a 128x64 OLED display up front that displays data like CPU, RAM and disk usage (coded in Python over I2C). The whole thing cost me right about $100 :)
I see that there is no support for ECC on G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 RAM. Is there anything else in the build that can guarante so that data doesnt dissappear?
Love your build. I got lucky with a free pc that's an old hp elite. I did a few minor upgrades and to my surprise, it outperforms my pi4 plex server. It has 8gb ddr3 with a phenom ii x4 945 and a gtx 960 4gb. It's a beast at streaming 4k to multiple devices with no lag whatsoever
That case had PSU from FSP Group with 80+Bronze/Gold, So don't worry about that part and i'll choose r3 1200/1300x with b350/a320 mobo. I had my low budget NAS with r3 1300x+gtx 1050 LP + A320 mobo +2x2TB WD RED + 8Gb ram + 120Gb SSD
I switched from OMV to CentOS. WOL was unreliable and every now and then i would have to reboot to be able to access my shares. Same machine but with centos now, it's been running smoothly 24/7 for over 3months
Every filesystem can corrupt data if the ram is bad but I don't see any reason why ZFS would be worse than other filesystems, that just doesn't make any sense. I even think that ZFS without ECC is still better in this regard than NTFS without ECC. Why would the additional countermeasures against data corruption make data corruption worse if there is ECC in place.
I agree, his statement that ZFS without ECC RAM can be dangerous is a myth, IMO. Here's a good link that explains it: jrs-s.net/2015/02/03/will-zfs-and-non-ecc-ram-kill-your-data/
I run a Windows base system using Stablebit, a software JBOD. I currently am running 102 Tb of disk space using replication for over 50 Tb of data. Been using this system for about 10 years with various hardware upgrades and OS upgrades over that time frame. Setting up another similar system on Windows 10 now for remote backup. All that is for my NAS supporting a separate Plex server. The guy who got me into this runs everything from his Windows system including Plex. Much easier than UNRAID, which I also run and definitely easier than FreeNAS. Such a setup doesn't require much CPU muscle for a NAS either.
Hello! I am a complete noob at this and am trying to replicate your build for my first ever home built NAS server for Plex. I have gone through your links and have found most of your recommendations, besides the enclosure. My question for you is this - how important is it to by new versus used parts for a build? Also, I am looking at mainly buying new parts through Amazon unfortunately, and am considering the 3-5 year warranties on each part. Do recommend this as well? Thanks for your video and insight.
I have Lenovo P700 dual Xeon, 96GB RAM, with 1 HDD 8TB, 1HDD 4Tb and 1 HDD 2Tb, I want upgrade to NAS Os because I’m in W10 right now, what RAID or PCIE Sata extension do you recommend ? I want to have at least 8 x 8 TB HDD and 2x250Gb cache SSD
I use Ubuntu server and linux raid, plus plex for my media center front end. My desktop dual boots windows 10 and manjaro gnome, so I can ssh into server from either OS for maintenance. The one thing I did pick up from your vid is the fact that I could probably use a hardware transcoder. My server cpu is a skylake i5-6600k (fairly overkill for purpose). A transcoder surely would make the load lighter. Thank you
I have a Synology ds718+. I'm thinking of building my on nas instead of buying a bigger synology. I'm not familiar with all of the nas os. I've been researching Synology Xpenology & I wonder do you have any insight on it.
I use a pepper jobs mini pc. The CPU inside supports hardware decode on Please. Works great. Why use a quadro if the intel cpu supports hardware decode? thanks in advance. BR
I'm running a 2008 an old Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H with a Core duo 8500 and onboard GFX as my player and have a RAID 5 of 3Tb WD RED on a server run by an old AMD FX 550 dual core. That said I run XBMC and don't transcode. I'm interested in what you are doing and appreciate the explanations ! Thanks my friend !
Get a 1650 Super or any 1660. They all have the new Turing nvenc chip in it. And you can bypass the 2 concurrent stream limitation. So you basically have turned a consumer card to a workstation one.
Wait, so P2000 are unlocked and these P400 are locked? Then why not a 960/1060 instead? Legit question as I'm trying to put a card into my NAS as I can't transcode 1 stream with my old CPU.
Bonjour, Really nice video. I'm more interested by the first setup in your video. I already own a NAS and currently it's a Virtual machine that does my plex server, i'm looking for dedicated box for that. Can you detail the first. Thanks!
Hello, I'm a total newbie here so, please forgive the nieve questions. I have a ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB and 4 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Ram that I pulled out of my Mac Pro. Can I do a NAS build with this? What motherboard and CPU (I also have an old 2.8 GHz Quad Core 45-nm Xeon W3530) that I'm not sure I can use. Any advice would be most appreciated.
I fully agree with you about budget builds! Buying random expensive stuff and putting it together provides no challenge at all.
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But buying random cheap stuff and putting it together does?
@@-QuickNick- in a way, yes... with cheap stuff you need to be careful and you have to do research, check reviews for compatibility, etc. On the other hand for example, if you buy the biggest and best branded PC PSU with 5 years of warranty and whatnot, you won't have power problem for sure. Same applies to motherboards, coolers, cases, etc, etc. All you need to check is socket compatibility...
Also, UA-cam is full of expensive builds. Whatever you're planning to build, Jays2cents/Paulshardware,/Bitwit/Gamersnexus/etc,etc. has already built, so you just take a ready made shopping list...
Yep, if I had $5000, I most likely have enough money not to worry about the power bill, so I'd just buy a modern server with at least two modern Xeon E5 processors and a ton of ECC RAM.
even though I've had a plex server for years I always love watching build videos... not sure what it is but they never get old :) Great budget build, that case has a unique layout
New to Plex, just invested in a HDHomeRun, now looking to build a private Plex cloud from my house with my family in 'Rona lockdown so we can all save a fortune on Netflix etc. Very informative channel. I love the fact the older legacy cards can be re-purposed to such good use. Subscribed.
Busy doing (serious) pricing and investigations into many different types of plex servers (PC, NAS Bays, etc) and this has proved extremely useful and given me plenty of food for thought...
Great video!
Well done. This is very well thought-out for a practical home NAS. 4c/8t gives you spare threads for containers and small vms. Since it is small and quiet, you can put Kodi on it and plug it into your TV.
Don't worry about ECC RAM and ZFS. The people who insist on it are talking about enterprise servers with hundreds of TB of storage and mission critical data. It's not like ZFS corrupts your files without ECC. I run ZFS all over the place, from my media server to my laptop (ZFS is amazing for dual boot macOS and Linux), and even on a Pi4. I've never had a problem.
If you don't mind the command line, a minimalist Debian or Ubuntu server install with a ZFS root and services in Docker is really easy to maintain. Docker and ZFS work really well together.
I just finish installing everything on my server and I'm loving it. I decided to go Debian but with Plex, and added a steam cache along with some other goodies. I just dreading to edit this video
@@NovaspiritTech Be careful. UA-cam burnout is real. Better to take a day or two and not "dread" editing. Your videos are different and interesting and I'd hate to see you quit.
if some day you discover 100 of files on your storage with 1-2 bit flips you will mourn for ecc :-)
@@l33t00r No, I won't. Anything really important is backed up. I'm only saying "don't worry about ECC" for home NAS and other personal applications where the risk isn't worth the expense/trouble of ECC. Just like how most people edit videos on normal PCs, while commercial editing contracts often mandate Xeon ECC workstations. UA-camrs laugh at the expense of the new mac pro while Hollywood is buying pallet-loads of them.
Nice build video. I miss MicroCenter, it was my “toy store” when I lived in Michigan.
If you're looking for higher capacities (meaning 6+ TB, ideally 8+ TB), there are external HDDs which are actually WD Red (or whichever equivalent of another brand), just with different label and guarantee. Of course, the guarantee isn't as good, but many people who are in the home server market "shuck" the drives out of these external HDDs because they're significantly cheaper.
Also, the ECC RAM in ZFS is kind of a myth, non-ECC RAM is just as bad in ZFS as in any other file system. It's just that it's usually chosen because of its reliability and not using ECC RAM makes it less reliable, so it kinda defeats the point of using ZFS.
GRBTutorials Can you give examples of which external hard drives that you can get those WD rads from I would really appreciate it
Which external HDDs are equivalent to the WD Red he reccs in his video?
I ran just a bare bones install of Ubuntu server for years on a Celeron j1800, it worked well for many years. At the time I was only driving gigabit ethernet so it worked out very well. It sounds like you know what you're doing with a bare metal install of Linux so personally I'd just roll your favorite distro and install Plex on top of that for simplicity.
haha this deserves another 👍
@@NovaspiritTech I'm close to the same build. However.... I went with a 2600 af instead of an apu for 40 bucks more. Installed Antix for 50mb ram usage. Shared the data drives and set kodi(dlna) to auto start. Activate auto scrape for new files added. Then declcoked to 12 threads at 2.0 ghtz, for power sipping. Turned on post with errors, and wake on lan. Then pulled video card. It boots and runs. Can add data off my main system with network share, which is not the same as desktop share. No video required on the server. Transcodes nicely for single user, haven't found its limit yet
Would you guys ever consider SSD? Media server have minimal write and heavy read. These traits are a match for ssd drives which have infinite read and limited writes. As well as power sipping. However their surge and shock resistance is much weaker.
@@dobermanownerforlife3902 if you're rolling your own base os. You could combine software raid with lvm + turbocache and get similar performance benefits without worrying about data loss due to faulty SSD.
Dobermanowner forlife Cost... 4 2Tb spinning rust drives are $200 and a 2Tb SSDs are $200ish and 4 of them cost more then the whole build
I have the same case. Looks pretty neat, doesn't have some fancy add-on junk, and with only two 120mm fans running at low RPM the case itself is whisper quiet. 4 WD Red drives also operate silently.
Jesus I wish there was a store like that where I live
I have couple of ZFS (8 and 16TB) NAS's that's been running 24/7 for almost 10 years now -- w/o ECC memory, just regular non-ECC RAM. One of them is down, but only due to a PSU fail. Not one data corruption during all that time. Of course, your mileage may differ, but from chatting with some of the developers, I think that requiring ECC mem is one of the many myths surrounding ZFS. Another being requiring 1GB RAM/1TB storage (or some such nonsense). From my experience, just get the fastest SSD for cache and ZIL, turn off dedup, and give it plenty of memory (ZFS will put it all to good use).
I can't think of using anything else than ZFS for a NAS. Don't let some of the myths detract you from using it. Might have to brush up on your Solaris or *BSD. But say what you will about *BSD's, but they're damn stable -- never a crash on those NAS's. Not sure about the Linux port of ZFS. Heard it's gotten pretty good, but not sure if I trust it, since Linux itself is less stable.
I've used ZFS for about half that time in a 24/7 operation. Non ECC murdered the pool at around the 75% full mark. Lost everything on that pool, nothing was recoverable. And I've seen the argument for and against. The data corruption from everything I read, was directly due to the non-ecc ram. If there ever was a question about could my data be lost on ZFS - use that ECC.
The included power supply would be a huge no from me. It's not about how many molex connectors you get, it's about the fact that a bad PSU can easily cause system instability or even kill your hardware.
I actually did this same thing! My otd total was about 570 bucks.
12GB DDR4
A ryzen 5 (2nd gens were on sale)
MATX build!
1650 super (bought it for emby because I provide for like 7 people) andnused the patched drive for unlimited transcode streams)
Salvaged Toshiba drives from my old powerade servers
That CPU peg you're seeing is because the proc is still being used for audio transcoding. I wish I had known this when I was building.
Also for best results stream at 1.5mps on mobile to eliminate buffering
I've been slowly upgrading my drives, working my way to 12TB drives for a huge bluray collection.
Great video!
Upgraded my pfsense box to a 3200g , gigabyte b450d3h, and 16gb ddr4. Carried over the ssd , case, psu, intel lan card,etc. Works like a chano for gigabit internet.
I love the Microcenter down the street from me. They usually have the best CPU prices, and you get discounted motherboards when you bundle up
I live in an area surrounded by 4 Microcenters but all of them are pretty far from me.
Nice intro-level video - but there is some information that really does need to be corrected:
1) "Lots of other cards are recommended like the P2000 but the cost is high so we're going with this other one to get better bang for it's buck" - Cool! Agreed, the P2000 is expensive. But if you're not going to select it you should at least tell your users why it's the card of choice. The one you selected will cap out at 2 hardware transcodes at 1 time. The P2000 does not do this. So if you are going to have more than 2 streams at once you should be considering the extra money to not over-tax your CPU with transcoding that 3rd stream.
2) "with hardware transcoding turned on the CPU is being used to move the media around" . Not really true. The 20% ish usage you are seeing in your video is actually because of the audio transcoding (a video card with hardware transcoding will still only do video) so you can't just ignore the CPU all togeather. If in your example you used a 4k video, that CPU is still going to have to do the audio transcoding so it's still got to be an ok CPU for how many streams you want.
3) "This graphics card can support up to 4 streams without having much of an issue" . Nope! Not true, see comment #1. The video card you selected can not do more than 2 streams at once, it's capped in the firmware / driver.
4) "If you unlock it with the patch drivers you can do that, in reference to #3" well - ok, first of all, those patch drivers don't work on everything. But second, you should let your users know that Nvidia does check for that and nuke cards from time to time. I actually know the engineer who workes on that project. If you're going to tell your users to do something you should also tell them the risks.
5) "use the reds because they are going to last a lot longer" well - that's also not true. The MTBF on the red's vs other drives is actually the same. The Red's (or similar from other MFR's) are actually specifically designed for raid. The difference between the other drives (like green) and the raid drives (like red) is the TLER support on the drive (time-limited error recovery). This limits the amount of time it tries to read the data in a raid environment. You sue this because of the conflicts that happen inside a raid array. A green drive (as an example because they are cheaper) actually doesn't fail, but your raid array will throw an error and think it failed because of the lack of TLER support.
" Nvidia does check for that and nuke cards from time to time" everything you said is invalidated because of this.... dumb.... :/
With "cheap" hard disks usually less is described in the documents, one is sparing with exact information.
The WD RED is the slightly better desktop (consumer garbage) drive that has double the load/unload cycles of the WD Blue, and gives a value for the transfairs that are allowed to roll over the drive, which is missing on the Blue.
Asked again, if I use for example with unRAID a modified graphics driver to use 3-4 instead of the 2 usual H.265 HW decodings (for example with Plex, Jellyfin) then it could be that Nvidia sabotages the graphics card, destroys it ?
Thanks for putting the quadros in my decision. You just saved me from upgrading my entire system. Instead I just bought a quadro p620 on ebay used for 96bucks, they had 10 off now coupon.Cheaper than the p400 currently,doubt it helps my needs much. But it does have double the memory bandwidth and like double the cuda cores. Any other upgrade was going to run me least 185+, for something that wouldn't perform nearly as good. So was going to rebuild fully. The quadro revived my system for 4k. Thanks. Damn shame the community for plex doesn't recommend this more.Hell reading plex support would have you thinking you can only hardware accelerate with an intel cpu with quick-sync, which is a LIE..... Funny they don't even know their own software.
You're right man. The Chenbro SR30169 Tower Case SR30169T2-250 seems to be a pretty decent case for the money. I did some digging and I was pretty shocked at what I found.
Cable management was fine bro. I'm doing a build like this soon to connect all the PC's in the house (network) so my kids and myself can unload saves to the NAS I'm building. I like this case a lot!
Thanks buddy! The part about using cheap GPU and save money on CPU really opened my eyes!
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Thanks! I would also love to see a encoder test in in a container or whatever, maybe with the Intel HD vs the integrated Vega encoder!
Maybe Jellyfin does a better job at that
What are your thoughts on Open media vault is it a good sever OS?
@@darenthoman9962 yes it definitely is, it's very flexible! The only problem I have with it is the Docker UI and a lack for a VM UI! If you don't really need that then that would be my preferred choice (even over FreeNAS)
The thing is if you have some experience with docker, you'll always want to work with it in bash rather than a GUI so that shouldn't be a problem. There would also be portainer for it which is the single best Docker WebUI I know (prove me wrong, if you can ;) ). Also KVM with libvirt and Virtual Machin Manager is quite easy to use, you just need a PC running Linux and a ssh connection to your server! The greatest thing about OMV is that it's based on Debian Buster which is widely supported and there are a lot (and I really mean a lot) of guides for it which all are applicable to OMV, too.
That is a good and reliable PSU. Just to let you know, after 4-5 years they have a disease that the 4 pin will not push enough power and the fans will work on full speed and you won't have a display. But, they won't explode or something like that :)
A lack of ECC ram wont cause more of an issue on ZFS than other systems. In fact, it'll at least alert you to the majority of the problems that bad ram will cause.
Got a question for you I was planning on building a small server for my home using mobo Gagabyte a520i with ddr4 ram and installing free nas on it. So when he said you could corrupt your data using free nas I wasn’t sure what he meant would I be ok with this setup I just mentioned
That case looks perfect, but I can't find it anywhere.
This is great video. Your example of how they peform is excellent. Do you an updated built for 2022?
shady that those WD RED's turned out to be SMR drives.
Was just thinking that when I watched this lol
thedog556 why not?
WD RED's........few weeks..............."COFFIN DANCE MEME"
thedog556 It matters if a drive dies and it needs replacing. SMR can cause issues when it pauses to move data to the SMR area. This can be interpreted as hard drive failure.
I got 2 RED's shortly before the quarantine and they turned out to be standard drives (EFRX) instead of SMR (EFAX) drives. so I lucked out.
The SMR issue only matters if you are using ZFS and it has to perform resilvering. I don't think it affects mirrored striped volumes as badly.
Like it but need more. What are your thoughts on the 1920x build? I keep looking and you can get the cpu on sell sometimes for $150-160. Case about $80-100. Psu $80-100. Ram $100. Get a cooler and I like you gpu. Boards are $200+ used. So about $700-800 w/o mass storage.
Been looking at a gaming vm build on a budget. 12core 24 threads make a great start point. The upgrade path gets you to 2990wx.(wait a year or so to see if it drops to under $200).
I do like your build. You can upgrade to 3700x(65w). So you would have 8 cores 16 threads.
I just built a NAS with Proxmox and OMV. So far it’s doing great, similar budget build. Will use for NAS to replace an old Drobo FS and will migrate a test Plex server onto a more flexible platform. I will also use it to run containers and VMs. Thanks for this video, it confirms many of my choices.
Check out mu twitter i just posted something there you might like
I'm doing the same this week. But proxmox, omv, and a win 10 vm
@@nicktids yes. Building a win 10 cm this week. Working on integrating Spice right now.
@@jimpotash9009 I read spice and vnc doesn't allow the gpu passthrough so using rdp. I'm stuck at the nvidia code 43 with an old gt710 card. Just going to do some old gaming so don't need anything fancy.
nicktids yeah, ended up with rdp and everything works fine.
Cool little budget build. I dig that case. I agree with one of the other fellows that commented here. That FSP power supply should be decent enough until the "budget" can afford an upgrade. I've often thought about putting a plex server together but I don't really have a usage case for it just yet. I just store my media on a NAS and watch it via Kodi on an Nvidia Shield TV. I just don't have much need to access it outside of my house. But if I ever do Plex or Emby are going to be what I go with.
Great video! And the way you explain your parts and reasoning is perfect!
I bought an IBM X3650 M3 for less than £200 with 96GB RAM, 2x 3.06GHz X675 hex core Xeons and the system has the capacity for 8x SFF 2.5" drives as stock. Added a second SAS/SATA backplane for another 8 drives and expansion card (about £100) and a Quadro p400 for transcoding (£75) with the modded driver.
Downside it is power hungry but I can VPN onto the network and bring it up and power down via the machines management interface. Runs Plex on Mint and is very stable. I also added a few 4TB drives in RAID5 for films and 2x1TB in RAID1 for music and one SSD for OS which I need to also use for metadata but not done that yet. Not the fastest of machines but for Plex it works well.
Worth bearing in mind ex-production servers, but I'd be a little careful with Dell R710's - mine is very funny about drives. I should update / change the RAID card in that machine but out of the two I've had a lot more ease with the IBM and have had no issues with drive compatibility.
Great video! First time watching your channel. Thanks! Subscribed.
Been rocking freenas 11 on an old Lenovo with 2 6gb hgst deskstars and 4 GB of non-ECC Samsung ram for two years, CPU is an I5-3330 and I have about 500 movies on it, I can honestly say that I have had zero issues with zfs and non ecc ram. Buy good sticks with Samsung chips and I don't think you will ever have to worry about errors corrupting your data when freenas scrubs the drive pools. Just my two cents!!
The Ryzen 3200G has built in hardware transcoding for 4K already, although it may not be as good nvidia. I’m using a 240GE and Jellyfin with hardware transcoding enabled and it works well.
You just gave me an idea for my old pc
Interesting build but would be interested to mention the power consumption / cost since this is major factor for server besides the initial investment.
Update us! What happened to this project please!
Proxmox is a Debian based level 1 hypervisor if you need to add another machine down the road for more storage capacity or more VM's and has its own web interface GUI plus plus
Yup I love proxmox I use it In my own hp server I have at home. Not sure if this Mobo / cpu supports virtualization though
@@NovaspiritTech it should my ryzen 5 1600x and ryzen 1700x both supports it
Nowadays cpu supports them
@@NovaspiritTech depends on how many cores you can dedicate per vm you want.
Just started to build one as a NAS with 4TB with only two drives but can add more after...Thinking of using unRaid.
- ASUS Prime B550M-A/CSM
- AMD Ryzen 5 3600
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 X 16GB) DDR4 3200
- 2 Seagate IronWolf NAS 4TB
- Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe (caching)
- Silverstone Tek Micro-ATX PS07B
Coming around 870 USD down here in Singapore (without unraid license). This is missing a graphics card and a PSU that I already have. Really looking for good network transfer speed for some video and photo editing.
Wow! What a fantastic video! Nice to know I don't need too stout of a GPU to accommodate 3-4 users. since this is such a clean budget build, I may build two: oneedia Server (with GPU), and one CCTV NAS (with more storage). I'm checking out the OS install video next.
For my NAS/server I use freenas on top of proxmox. I passed all the hard drives through directly to the freenas VM because when using ZFS it's best to let the VM access the drives as close to block level as possible
I had similar setup but running on top of esxi 6.7. The SMB performance was terrible for some reason, so I have switched over to xpenology, runs much better with less resources.
Does this beat a pre built nas with 2x 2.5ghz ports, four 3.5 bays and 4 m.2 slots?
It's actually a great psu with 80+ grade. FSP are good and makes a lot of psus for big brands such as corsair
W Server 2019 Datacenter edt. running on an i5-3570K, No raid, different RAM sticks and the case is Suuuper jank, No joke!. But I love it.
Is that what your running? Why not Linux Server?
@@BrianThomas I bet he is running a torrent version lol W server datacenter lol and he is too lazy to learn linux ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but yeah what ever floats peoples boat lol
@@BrianThomas Yep! I'm actually looking into Linux. Used it before, and I like it alot. That build is super jank, but for the time being It were all i had xP
@@charlesdean03 nope, fully licensend version! Got it while doing my Bachelor's degree, School had unlimited access to Microsoft product w/ lifetime licenses for students.... it's almost too good to be true, I know!!... And Dude, don't make assumptions! Used Linux and I like it too. I'll bet you would do the same if you had an license xP
@@B1tm4n lol I have way more lic and unlike your bachelor and time to look at peoples LinkedIn 🤣🤣 I work. But hey what ever floats your boat in thinking now that your bachelor is good while my my masters is a joke 🤣🤣🤣... Have a good life
What is the performance difference between game graphic cards and these professional card? Are they better or they are just at better value?
what about using IGPU ? like HD630, i have read that they can transcode up to 6 times 4k transcodes to 1080p.
I remember looking at I7 8750h mini pc that you can find for pretty cheap on aliexp back then now there is maybe even better deal..
An igpu will work but An AMD apu will be better without any dgpu.
@@RockyZajThoj well intel igpu have hardware transcoding capabilities that amd apu didn't have.. (or at least not compatible) so amd is worse :/
Please help me understand why don't u use Windows. I feel it should be easier using a familiar OS (for me) instead of learning new OS again plus the compatibility with many of the windows computers at home?
470$: yes, it has more power than a commercial NAS; yes: you can add easily drives...
But... What about power consuption? And operanting noise? Can you resell it? Can you easily increase the diskspace? Are you confident to expose it over the network?
Hey mate, I would like to buy the graphics card but there are two models one is nvidia quadro p400 HP and another one is nvidia quadro p400 Professional. So which one should I go for for my NAS and Plex server?
Hi, Don I just wanted to ask if you were using a GPU riser with the little Ryzen bored. I have an Odyssey bored that I might try it with,
Very very good hardware selection. You are definitely the one to trust for hardware build systems to efficiency at best price.
I'm only using 1080p MKVs, should I cut my cost a bit from the build you made?
How about electricity consumption comparison? Is Synology more worth? Even we can't upgrade the hardware. I'm would build an Nas server... Maybe. U can hel me, how can we build Nas server with low power consumption
Would you change something now? (Staying in the same price ofc)
Noob question... is a high end gaming pc (2021) with usb 3 attached 10-14tb storage for plex media files ok? Or is the usb HD going to still be a huge bottleneck vs a modern nas? Also alot of the nas setups on YT still use spinning disks? Any reason they aren't SSD variants atm?
My only issue with you saying this can transcode 4K is that you're not specifying what your Bitrate is for Big Buck Bunny in 4K. I looked it up and it's roughly 8.5Mbps compared to a real 4K-UHD movie like Avengers: Endgame (44.1Mbps) That number is kinda low, considering a movie like Ready Player One is 79.1Mbps
The resolution may be 4K, but using a low bit-rate 4K video and saying it can transcode 4K I think is misleading. Even with a 1080p Blu-ray, Avengers: Endgame bitrate is 31.8Mbps.
Some might say, you can use Handbrake and lower the bitrate, but keep the 4K Resolution. That's very true, however, that would take HOURS to encode, at which point (not to be rude) why are you worried about building a budget Plex server? In order to transcode a 4K movie title, you're going to need a more powerful system.
I personally have a GT-730 in my Plex build and that thing can barely play 1 4K video stream, much less transcoding it... Haha that's cute. I know the Quadro is strictly designed for data processing, compared to a 730 that's designed for "gaming". However at the end of the day, the numbers still don't add up.
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PS: I did watch this entire UA-cam video prior to commenting to make sure I didn't miss anything.
PPS: My movies are direct rips from my 4K and Blu-ray physical collection (I know both resolutions are written to Blu-ray discs).
Avengers: Endgame - 4K (HEVC Main 10 HDR) 44.1Mbps - 55.79 GB
Avengers: Endgame - 1080p (H.264) 31.8Mbps - 40.23 GB
Ready Player One - 4K (HEVC Main 10 HDR) 79.1Mbps - 77.38 GB
I am looking to build my own NAS and plex server, would this still be the best setup to go with? Should I look for a used server to start my build? Thanks in advance.
Which OS is recommended for such DIY NAS ?? Can I go with windows 10 itself ?
I like that case but I don't think it is available anywhere.
Can you link me the little test monitor you have on your desk? I've been looking for a good one for my stuff. Love the vid man, thanks!
can you run a setup like this with any old GPU laying around or is there a specific series you need to use?
I like the intro. So chill.
4:02 You said it can't Direct Play 4K over Wi-Fi cuz the 4K stream is too much for Wi-Fi? I've got a Synology DS920+ that can Direct Play 4K 30-40Mbps streams over Wi-Fi to my Shield Pro without any issues. Not sure why Wi-Fi would be a limiting factor here...
Hello. Nice video. Helped a lot, mainly that part with Quadro P400. My question is : you are using UDOO BOLT V8 for GPU test (2:22). What HW part are you using that have the ability to connect GPU to M.2 NVME slot ? Im unable to find it anywhere, can you point me please ? Thank you
If you unlock the p400 how many independent transcodes can you accomplish? I.e. can handbrake transcode a file at the same time it is doing a couple of Plex transcodes
Nice, I thought about building my nas for cloud storage. How's your build holding up?
I have Plex running on a Pi4 with 4Gb RAM on a dual SATA board with 2x 2.5" WD Red (NASware 3.0) 2.0Tb in a small case, whole thing is the size of a small router and I have 4Tb on there with low power consumption (25 W). almost looks like a smaller DVD player, I have the Pi4 wired to a 128x64 OLED display up front that displays data like CPU, RAM and disk usage (coded in Python over I2C). The whole thing cost me right about $100 :)
I think that card does 3 streams without unlocking it, so it should be pretty close to its full potential with 3 encodes anyhow. Good choice
I see that there is no support for ECC on G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 RAM. Is there anything else in the build that can guarante so that data doesnt dissappear?
Love your build. I got lucky with a free pc that's an old hp elite. I did a few minor upgrades and to my surprise, it outperforms my pi4 plex server. It has 8gb ddr3 with a phenom ii x4 945 and a gtx 960 4gb. It's a beast at streaming 4k to multiple devices with no lag whatsoever
how is the power consumption on this build? and maybe u can do update on this with Ram encoding ????
Why do you use an integrated graphics APU like the 3200G since you have a real GPU?
Question: Is there a comparability list for GPU's for GPU transcoding? If not I have some cards in my office.
That case had PSU from FSP Group with 80+Bronze/Gold, So don't worry about that part and i'll choose r3 1200/1300x with b350/a320 mobo.
I had my low budget NAS with r3 1300x+gtx 1050 LP + A320 mobo +2x2TB WD RED + 8Gb ram + 120Gb SSD
Where is the second part of this video? I really like this video
Install open media vault. It's the OS you are looking for. So good. Problem free for the last 3 years for me
I switched from OMV to CentOS. WOL was unreliable and every now and then i would have to reboot to be able to access my shares. Same machine but with centos now, it's been running smoothly 24/7 for over 3months
NSA recommends Windows 10
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Surprised they don't recommend win 7 so it can be extra insecure.
os os x or ubuntu....oh wait dey can just remote your bios ahhhh
@@changedahanddlessss that's what libreboot and others are for.
@@MrBearyMcBearface Reading this comment on Windows 7
I use Fedora, solid as a rock.
How much power consumed the equipment? I know that is old movie, but maybe you have written it...
@11:55 ZFS without ECC RAM can corrupt data? can you provide more info (a link)?
Every filesystem can corrupt data if the ram is bad but I don't see any reason why ZFS would be worse than other filesystems, that just doesn't make any sense.
I even think that ZFS without ECC is still better in this regard than NTFS without ECC. Why would the additional countermeasures against data corruption make data corruption worse if there is ECC in place.
I agree, his statement that ZFS without ECC RAM can be dangerous is a myth, IMO. Here's a good link that explains it: jrs-s.net/2015/02/03/will-zfs-and-non-ecc-ram-kill-your-data/
I run a Windows base system using Stablebit, a software JBOD. I currently am running 102 Tb of disk space using replication for over 50 Tb of data. Been using this system for about 10 years with various hardware upgrades and OS upgrades over that time frame. Setting up another similar system on Windows 10 now for remote backup. All that is for my NAS supporting a separate Plex server. The guy who got me into this runs everything from his Windows system including Plex. Much easier than UNRAID, which I also run and definitely easier than FreeNAS. Such a setup doesn't require much CPU muscle for a NAS either.
Thanks for the info. Gonna check out stablebit
Hope you filed that class action settlement for them WD Red HDD's
Hello! I am a complete noob at this and am trying to replicate your build for my first ever home built NAS server for Plex. I have gone through your links and have found most of your recommendations, besides the enclosure. My question for you is this - how important is it to by new versus used parts for a build? Also, I am looking at mainly buying new parts through Amazon unfortunately, and am considering the 3-5 year warranties on each part. Do recommend this as well? Thanks for your video and insight.
How much power does this build draw?
I have Lenovo P700 dual Xeon, 96GB RAM, with 1 HDD 8TB, 1HDD 4Tb and 1 HDD 2Tb, I want upgrade to NAS Os because I’m in W10 right now, what RAID or PCIE Sata extension do you recommend ? I want to have at least 8 x 8 TB HDD and 2x250Gb cache SSD
Thanks for great video. Just one reminder, for hardware encoding you need to have paid Plex subscription.
OMV no question with plex container and GPU pass through!
Can do with FreeNAS. Jail...
what case wouyld urecommend now a days
I use Ubuntu server and linux raid, plus plex for my media center front end. My desktop dual boots windows 10 and manjaro gnome, so I can ssh into server from either OS for maintenance. The one thing I did pick up from your vid is the fact that I could probably use a hardware transcoder. My server cpu is a skylake i5-6600k (fairly overkill for purpose). A transcoder surely would make the load lighter. Thank you
Great vid, I am thinking of doing one w/ a matx motherboard from asrock rack.
I have a Synology ds718+. I'm thinking of building my on nas instead of buying a bigger synology. I'm not familiar with all of the nas os. I've been researching Synology Xpenology & I wonder do you have any insight on it.
don't you also need the power adapter and the CPU cooling fan?
I use a pepper jobs mini pc. The CPU inside supports hardware decode on Please. Works great. Why use a quadro if the intel cpu supports hardware decode? thanks in advance. BR
I'm running a 2008 an old Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H with a Core duo 8500 and onboard GFX as my player and have a RAID 5 of 3Tb WD RED on a server run by an old AMD FX 550 dual core. That said I run XBMC and don't transcode. I'm interested in what you are doing and appreciate the explanations ! Thanks my friend !
Get a 1650 Super or any 1660. They all have the new Turing nvenc chip in it. And you can bypass the 2 concurrent stream limitation. So you basically have turned a consumer card to a workstation one.
Wait, so P2000 are unlocked and these P400 are locked? Then why not a 960/1060 instead? Legit question as I'm trying to put a card into my NAS as I can't transcode 1 stream with my old CPU.
Does hardware encoding need a Plex pass?
Yes
Bonjour,
Really nice video. I'm more interested by the first setup in your video. I already own a NAS and currently it's a Virtual machine that does my plex server, i'm looking for dedicated box for that. Can you detail the first. Thanks!
power usage?
Hello, I'm a total newbie here so, please forgive the nieve questions. I have a ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB and 4 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Ram that I pulled out of my Mac Pro. Can I do a NAS build with this? What motherboard and CPU (I also have an old 2.8 GHz Quad Core 45-nm Xeon W3530) that I'm not sure I can use. Any advice would be most appreciated.
You can get ECC ram for ryzen b450 boards which will get around the data corruption business with ZFS issues.