Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
It’s all propaganda fake history anyways, that’s all Islam is, the Abassids created Islam, there’s no historical evidence or record for it before the Abassids
If Caliph Suleiman ibn Abd al-Malik did not desire to fulfill the prophecy by becoming the blessed Muslim commander who will seized Constantinople for Islam according to the prophecy of the Prophet, the Umayyad Caliphate could have saved a lot of money and the rebellion against them might be averted.
The prophet is mostly wrong so they probably didn’t really believe it. That’s why the Umayyads caliphate only lasted a mere 100 years, it was them that organized Islam and the Quran(fixed some of the lies and added more lies)
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 that doesn't make their comment any less factual, so what's your point exactly? you can conquer half of a country, then still lose key battles to said country that cause another country to wipe yours out because of those battles. unless you're trying to brag about one point in history, to which my question would be.. how'd that work out for you today?
هناك العديد من الاخطاء مثل ان الخلافة يجب ان تكون لشخص ينحدر من نسب مباشرة فلم يكن ابو بكر و لا عمر و لا عثمان يعتبروا ممن ينحدر حتى معاوية من ناحية النسب اقرب للنبي من عمر و ابو بكر ايضا معاوية لم تحدث في عهده الكثير من الاضطرابات و اذا حدثت فكان يتعامل معها باللين حتى انه كان مضرب المثل بالصبر و الحلم على من يظلمونه اما القمع بعنف و وحشية حدثت في عهد عبدالملك بن مروان و ابنه الوليد طبعا الكثير من الاخطاء الاخرى لكنها كثيرة ،ارجو ان يؤخذ ما اقوله و ان تاخذ من المصادر الصحيحة
والله جدا استغربت من المعلومات والمغالطات في هذا الفيديو. ونشرت تعليقا بالانجليزيه تقريبا نفس الكلام الذي انت نشرته. أغرب ما سمعت: "معاوية كان يخالف تعاليم الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم عندما كان كاتبا له". ما هذه التفاهات؟ ليته ذكر المصادر.... رضي الله عن معاوية وعن ابوه وعن أخوه.
@@ElectronFieldPulse This video is very much worthless as they put a lot of emphasis on the unethicality of Muawiya. Within Islamic history, there are the Shia sources who extremely exaggerate the corruption of Muawiya and all other companions of the prophet peace be upon them all. To give you such examples, Shias claim historic accuracy of the following: - Omar burned down Fatimah's home. - Omar broke into Fatimah's home with brute force, making the door's nail shoot out toward Fatimah's pregnant belly, breaking her ribs, and causing her miscarriage. - Omar forced Ali to allow him to rape one of Ali's daughters. - Omar dragged Ali through on the dirt to force Ali's allegiance. All of Omar's presumable actions happened under the watchful eye of the very same Ali, the revered all-powerful Shia character. They claim the above (AND MANY MORE) without proof. They convert hearsay, hardly even a rumor, to facts. They have no chain of narrations, nor biographies of the person delivering these information, no proof. Now imagine taking your information for a historic video you are about to create from the very same people of make historic accuracy of the above mentioned incidents...
@@Anas.Rajpoot_804 هل ممكن نتناقش بأدب, حتى نتوصل لنتيجة ترضي الله سبحانه ةتعالى؟ هل ممكن نتناقش مسألة عصمة الإثني عشر؟ هل هم حقا معصومون؟ وما الدليل على ذلك من القرآن والسنه؟
One thousand three hundred years have passed, and the Umayyads have gone with it, but still some losers blame them for their modern-day failures, what a great empire!
But losers do you mean us shiites ? Also which failures ? We aren’t failing in the current day , not in the slightest . We blame muawiya for and yazid for every bad thing today for preventing the rule of the imams ( and therefore would have established the messianic nation back then )
@@Amen6magi he means the shiites since an imam ( i forgot which one ) said that there were many opportunities for the messianic nation to be established , but they were always ruined so far ( once by muawiya and once by yazid ) . But he was blaming the people not muawiya and yazid ( although they are both bad people as agreed by all shiites )
Even weirder was that he said "ruled over modern day... " then listed 3 modern day countries before freestyling with North Africa, Spain and Central Asia while simultaneously showing only pieces of all of them and including Portugal and parts of Pakistan. And he didn't even list every area they ruled over so there was clearly no pressure.
Really awesome Video! I have one bit of constructive criticism tho: could you please link your sources in the description in the future? I would love to read more about the topic and it would really install confidence in the truthfullness of you guys' Videos ^^
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
@@ghostd69 I literally began to suspect that these channels depend on Wikipedia as the primary source of information The funny thing is that even Wikipedia says that the army that put the Abbasids in power was Arab "Most of the Khorasani soldiers who brought the Abbasids to power were Arabs.[160]"
Because this channel is a bit biased. Cherry picking information sometimes instead of the whole picture. Didn't say, mention anything about the help Constantinople received by Khan Tervel and the Bulgarian army who cleared the fields infront of the walls.
@@westsidermetalhead4997 Trevel khan and his blugars army did nothing important but rather than attacking an retreated army during their withdrawl and the army were suffering dieases and hungry and cold weather and greek fire playing big role destroying major army
The native berbers of morocco defeated three umayyads army one after one after one after one and you didn't put that in the video specially the berbers of North Africa fight against umayyad caliphate army's for over 70 years non stop in the end the umayyads lost Morocco and Algeria and after 7 years of this the umayyad caliphate get destroyed by the new super power the Abbasid caliphate (non Arabs Persians)
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Berber never fought umayyad for 70 years old it was just some battles and berber revolt was eventually crushed in battle al asnam and al qarn, algeria was remain under umayyad and people of tanger in morcco pledge of allegiance to handela ibn safwan who crushed berber revolt in battle al asnam in chlef modern algeria
@@ghostd69 handled bent safwan barely only partially maintained the rebellion and within years Sufrites of Warfjuma took over Kairouan deleting out the quraish family. At best Eastern Algeria had remained under their rule for a bit.
Abu al-Abbas al-Saffah is one of the figures who formed the original institution that had an impact on the Islamic world. He is the one who organized this revolution that became known as the Black Flags Revolution. He was given a nickname by this name, al-Saffah, because of the large amount of blood he shed.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
12:11 Another mistake The revolution was not in Persia (western Iran), but in Khorasan (eastern Iran), a place where the Persians were always a minority. Most of the revolutionaries were Shiite Arabs (descendants of the Arabs who were displaced from Iraq in the era of Muawiyah I)
@@darthpigeon At that time they were a minority The majority of the Khorasanis spoke the Sogdian, Bactrian, and Khwarezmian languages Dari Persian spread after Islam under the rule of the East Iranian/Turkic dynasties
@Faisal-pb5gu depends on what part of khorasan you're speaking if we speaking the western part of khorasan(which was the most populated part) persian had become the major language replacing parthian by the late years of sassanids
That’s not a mistake, he’s using Persia and Iran synonymously. I realize Persians and Iranians aren’t the same thing, but referring to that whole area over there as either “Persia” or “Iran” is a matter of using an exonym or an endonym
@@JackBowman-vs6kv Describing the Eastern Iranians as Persians is similar to describing the Phoenicians and Assyrians as Arabs Persia is an inaccurate foreign name because Persians have always been an ethnic minority in Iran
@@westsidermetalhead4997 Trevel khan and blugars army didn't do anything they didn't apporach consantinople wall till arab withdrawl, blugars attacked umayyad during their retreat they didn't help in raise of siege on city
Before the third khalifa die he requested help from his cousin but his cousin didn't respond and his main reason for war was because ali wanted to remove him from his place
Ali infact never tried to remove anyone , he is well known for not revolting against Abu bakr even tho his relatives and followers told him to do so , he did not so the islamic world would not get into fighting eachother , the next rashudin calips were so unpopular that when 3 of them died people Asked ali to come rule , which he did and fighted many rebels.
Ali was treated unfairly as was his sons. 🤷♂️ It’s kind of ironic with how Muslims today, especially the concerts in America seem to become Arabized. They take Arab names and wear Arab clothing even though they live in NYC or Philly. Its ironic as it’s always been one reason for revolts in the past. The people didn’t like being forced to forget everything from before when they converted to Islam. It’s also ironic as historically, Muhammad’s family was treated unfairly. Ali and Fatimah as well as Husain and Hassan and the rest of the family were all treated unfairly and you can see that is the case for generations. Treated unfairly by rulers who didn’t like the attention they got. But now a day the history is ignored 🤷♂️ Muslims have always been their own worst enemies lol
Wow bro you couldn't have said it more. Most of Muslims today choose to follow the ways of the Ummayeds and Abbasid Islam rather the Islam of Muhammad and his ahul al bayt. That's why you see Shia fight for Palestinian while the rest watch, no some of them even help the zionist. @@YaakovEzraAmiChi
There is a fair number of mistakes and misinformation in this video, and it is clear that some of the sources were Shiite, who were known to have rewritten history in their own favor, but overall it does give a rough idea of what happened. I studied this topic for 6 years at school and beyond school as I am a saudi, and it is a very important topic to study for our education system.
1:44 Stats of the Umuyyad Caliphate, the largest Islamic Arab empire of all time. 6:50 This first Caliph Mu'awaya set the foundatuons for the Umayyad Caliphate to be stable in the future.
Even though the reasons for the Umayyad downfall are sandwiched in-between a whole bunch of peripheral information, a more descriptive title for this video would've been "Rise and fall of the Umayyad Caliphate".
Wonderful presentation. 👏 They had control of Andalusia for many years & their bloodlines mixed. Good reason why many South American looks Middle Eastern today.
Abu Muslim Abd al-Rahman ibn Muslim [1] was a Persian[2][3] general who led the Abbasid Revolution that toppled the Umayyad dynasty, leading to the establishment of the Abbasid Caliphate.
@@he4620 Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
They spread Islam ,most of the theological , scientific and intellectual things were in Abbasid era not to mention their heritage to other Islamic states such as Seljuks, Mamluks and Ottomans@@MazyarGheidi
The ʿAbbasids were descended from an uncle of Muhammad. Seeing the weaknesses of the Umayyads, they declared a revolt in 747. With the help of a coalition of Persians, Iraqis, and Shīʿites, they put an end to the Umayyad dynasty with a victory against them at the Battle of the Great Zab River in 750.
🇸🇦❌🇮🇷✅Iranian Abu Muslim Khorasani overthrew the Umayyad caliphate and defeated their powerful army and brought the Abbasids to power, but the Abbasids killed her, the Arabs never had honor🇮🇷 He was not only the commander, but also the leader of the movement against the Umayyads, I wish he would have become the king himself.
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about Aumayyad empire collapsed by Abbassid revolutionary armies...video clearly explained all reasons which imposed people's backed Abbassid assaults against former Aumayyed government from khorasan to Iran and Iraq....Aumayyed empire economic, society tyranny was unthinkable and horrible comparably to previous Rashedden caliphate Era....even in Syria
I am your frequent visitor and watcher of Chanel . please make video on below topic in detail. Video on Decline of Abbasid caliphate and dawn of turks especially seljik turks and expansion to ottoman turks and other turks if possible????
You should have included the Great Berber revolt and the Murji'ah rebellions in Persia/Khorasan and the Kharijite rebellions of the Iraqi marshes and Najid and the Zaydi Shia revolts
What do you expect from ignorant people North Africa Barbaria or Tamazgha was the graveyeard of Arab armies. Also the Battle of Tours and Poitiers in which many Umayyad soldiers died had an impact on the Umayyads
@@mauromaurito532 All those revolt was crushed Berber berber revolt was eventually crushed in battle al asnam and al qarn, algeria was remain under umayyad and people of tanger in morcco pledge of allegiance to handela ibn safwan who crushed berber revolt in battle al asnam in chlef modern algeria and battle of tour or poitiers is same battle it was skrmkish and party raid didn't impact on umayyad and umayyas was countine with raid into francia after that battle
@@ghostd69 no not true Tunisia remained under Arab authority but the whole of Algeria and Morocco and Mauretania was ruled by Amazigh tribes the Kutama and Senhaja tribes ruled eastern Algeria the Fatimids who ousted the Aghlabids were helped by the Kutama who lived in Eastern Algeria
@@ghostd69 no after the Battle of Tours and Poitiers which was due to the arrogance of the Arab racistst never never dared the Muslims go north to France or Belgium there is even a large graveyeard called Balat Al Shuhada look it up. The Warfajuma berbers also attacked North Tunisia
@@mauromaurito532 East algeria was also under umayyad and battle al asnam took place in west algeria crushed berber and also abd rahman al fahiri marched into west algeria and entered telemcen and cities around chasing down rest of berber rebles. Kutama and sanhaja was also crushed by abbasid general mohamed ibn al ash't al khouzai
mainly due to greed, umayad refused to arabize and islamize locals(genocide/eviction/conversion) just so they can tax more and not "waste" money while they did it. as harsh as it is, those are one of the absolute necessities to ensure long term unity.(even today arabs have far less dna relations than french/english/germans)
He clearly mentioned that the majority of the Umayyad population were non-Muslims and that's the Umayyads were tolerant to other faiths.. The 'violence' mentioned in the video was suppressing revolutions... Because well allowing them would break the country into pieces
@@blutherhood3893Kingdom of Mauretania isn't related to the Moroccan identity which started with the Idrisids. Mauretanian tribes were also in nowdays Algeria and Numdian tribes were also present in nowdays Morocco. You Moroccan nationalists and Algerian nationalists shoudn't touch our Berber history. Alot of Houara Berbers and Ifranid Berbers in the Trara, Aures mountains formed around half of all Berber rebels
In spite of all of the civil wars, governmental changes, border shifts, cultural drift, etc. We view Rome as a continuous historical narrative. Its odd how that is not applied to Islamic empires. In spite of the fact they shared common, language, culture, religion, and occupied similar geographic spheres.
From what I understand, the tax for non-Muslims, or Jizya, is technically less than the mandatory taxes for Muslims, and could be exempted with military service.
If someone is chosen to rule by the past ruler, that is called being “appointed”, not “elected.” You incorrectly stated that the Rashidun Caliphate “elected” their leaders when in fact they appointed them. I don’t even think it is possible for leaders of an empire to be elected.
It was a mix of both honestly The thing is, if you go for strict democracy then the ignorance of the masses will rule, but since Rashidun Caliphs were pious, they would suggest someone to replace them in case something happens to them, who will then be approved or disapproved by the general public, it simply never happened that he was disapproved of And as seen in this video, people who seek power assassinated Ali who was elected as Caliph and got a hold of the Caliphate Had this mode of power transition remained, then the world would have looked vastly different, and the Islamic world would have been unified under one leadership. That's why many Muslims wish for the caliphate to be brought back in that sense, as it gave more power to the people, true Caliphate is what you can call a smart democracy
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
The racist policy of the Umayyads caused the fall of the Umayyad Empire also the treatment of Berbers like for instance the demands of Jizzyah and slaves to the Muslim Berbers was the straw and provoked a catastrophic revolt
It's Morocco that caused the collapse of the Umayyad empire, Moroccan Berbers killed the Ummayad elite forces that the Abassids wouldn't be able to overcome and also caused other rebellions.
This is true. They just wanted money, there is a reason the Rashidun (first Islamic Empire) was so dominant and impossible to defeat, they had principles and morals
The most heinous crime in history, no human being would do such things until I began to feel the ugliness that was done against the Umayyads who were subjected to a major attack and no attack against them was worth this, but the Abbasids are the filthiest types of hatred in the world and they are the ones who caused the destruction of the lives of millions of Umayyads and others because of their intense hatred charged with great evil, they killed the Umayyads in a horrific way and they used to say do not leave any Umayyad even if he held on to the curtains of the Kaaba, and this is a sentence that indicates that they exterminated the Umayyads and did not save one person or a few, including Abd al-Rahman al-Dakhil who reached the borders of Spain and saw safety and escaped from the areas that were very dangerous and formed a state and gathered an army from all religions and races, and when the Muslims thought of taking control of Andalusia, Abd al-Rahman bin Muawiyah gathered an army and confronted the Muslims who were under the rule of the Abbasids, and victory was an ally of Andalusia and he was given the title of the Falcon of Quraish
مهما اجتهدو الغرب في التاريخ العربي تحديدا راح يجهلون تفاصيل تؤدي الى اخطأ جسيمه في نقل المعلومات + لا اثق في الغرب في توصيل المعلومات نظرا لانهم يسيسيون المعلومات لصالحهم باي طريقه
5:22 What? All of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali may Allah be please with them, didn't come from direct lineage to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him... where did you get that information from? Like Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman, Muawiyah may Allah be pleased with him is a distant cousin of Muhammad peace be upon him.
5:28 Again, WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? How can he oppose the prophet's beliefs? He would be immediately charged with blasphemy and the companions of the prophet will absolutely not tolerate such acts (death sentence most likely). Where are you getting this information from? And for you to portray it as "a matter of fact". If you are citing your ridiculous information from Shia sources, then that explains the exagerrated resentment they have for Muawiyah may Allah be pleased with him. This is nonsensical and unprofessional...🤢
6:05 this is getting ridiculous. He is totally getting his information from Shia sources only. Not only that, he is totally misinterpreting the shia sources, making ridiculous conclusions shias didn't even claim...
3:45 how did the Prophet Muhammed die in 632ad? that doesn't make any sense to me. the bc ad calender is divided by the 30 or so years Jesus was alive. so how is the Prophet Muhammed supposed to have lived according to this video almost 6-7 centuries after Jesus passed away? it doesnt make any sense to me i was always taught what eventually became Islam was begun when the Jewish/Hebrew/Persian/Babylonian wherever he was from originally Patriarch of Israel Abraham sent away Ishmail when Sarah finally became pregnant and went against her word and forced him to send away Ishmail and his mother into the desert/wilderness, and i was always taught/under the impression that it was only a few generations later the Islam rose up and that Islam was almost as old as Judaism/Israel itself and older by far then modern Christianity? but this video is implying that Christianity is 7 centuries almost older then Islam is? i don't understand.
Genealogy of Banu Umayyah Abd Shams and Amr (Hashim) were the twin sons of Abd Manaf, the ruler of Makkah. Manaf belonged to the Quraish tribe and was a descendant of Hazrat Ibrahim bin Hazrat Ismail. Abd Shams was a self-centered and enterprising man while Amr was a public figure and was called Hashim because of his generosity. Hashim became the Chief of Makkah after the death of his father Manaf. Hashim lived long and after his death Mutlib younger brother of Hashim took over because Shiba son of Hashim was too young to shoulder the responsibilities as Chief. Later, Mutlib handedover the charge of chief of Kaaba to Shiba who is known as Abd Muttalib. Abd Shams had no children and he bought and adopted a slave child Umayyah. Umayyah's son Sukhar kept a stray woman Fakhta in his house and from her Harb (Abu Sufyan) and Umm Jameel were born. Umm Jameel. was married to Al-Uzza (Abu Lahab) and both of them were condenmed by Allah in Surah Lahab due to their hostility towards Prophet Muhammad (SW). As such, the genealogy of Umayyads is connected with the slave Umayya who remained the enemy of Hashem and this enimety continued in his descendant. Umayyads were called descendants of a Slave on three occasions: 1- On the occasion of the conquest of Makkah, the Holy Prophet said to Abu Sufyan and his followers, "Go away you the descendant of a freed slave, I have forgiven you. 2- In the letter written to Muawiya, Mawla Ali (ES) wrote, "Descendant of a freed slave how can you compare yourself with the emigrants?" (Nahj al-Balagha: Letters to Muawiyah) 3- In Yazid's court, Bibi Zainab(SE) addressing him said, "O child of a freed slave, how dare you tallk to us
You didnt even mentioned the main leader of this revolutionary which he was Persian abu muslim khorasani (behzadan pur vandad) He was the main reason of umayyid defeat !! And later he got murdered by the second abbasid caliphate al mansur beacuse of the arabs fear of his powers and popularity !!
He was mentioned in the video and even claimed that he was the one who defeated the Umayyads in Zab, although all Arab sources state that the one who defeated the Umayyads was Abdullah bin Ali, a member of the Abbasid dynasty.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
true abu muslim regreted he helped arabs that he should have helped his fellow persians to take over persia again instead of helping abbasids what a shame
@@shadowgod1797 He did not regret that he helped the Arabs He regretted killing thousands of Muslims. You can read the correspondence between him and Caliph Al Mansur. He did not talk about Arabs, Persians, or any of the modern nationalist nonsense. In any case, he died as a scum begging pardon for his life from the Caliph
@@shadowgod1797 Helping arabs ? Without abbasid support abu muslim wouldn't do anything he was mawali to arab tribe working to them as an clothing trader and thanks to arab tribes who revolt aganist umayyad and delcaring in thrid fitna before abbasid start their revolt, he tried to take over persia but abu jafar al mansour stopped him plus he wasn't nationlist he was just Pledge of allegiance to abbasid
What are saying! Mu,aawiya is closer to the prophet than 3 of the caliphates. He was his in-law. And he had never opposed the prophet, in fact he is famous by being one of the men that the prophet specially prayed for. What are you saying!
I don't think there was millions of Christians it's quite big number Many people in the comments section are complaining about baseless statement been said in this vid.
@@hype_r7460 The first fitna was tamed by the King of Muslims Muawiyah bin Abi Sufyan (ra) But the effects of the fall of the Umayyad empire are still being paid by Muslims to this day
@@hsmo5_671 no I don't think so, because the first fitna resulted in the Three sects (sunna, shia, ibadi) and the prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him told us not to devide into sects. It also resulted in more revolts and tribalry because the ummayads did prefer Arabs or some Arabs out of other Muslims (I'm not saying it's mu'awiya's may Allah be pleased with him fault). What did the fall of the ummayads result in ?
I went away and unsubscribed. Saying this much lies and misinformation in one video is shocking. You spent a few minutes praising Ummayed which is one of the most racist and brutal empires in history. You talked about inovations they had but never said what exactly was their innovations? They barely syated in power for 100 years and in that time burnt so many books and mostly destroyed everything. This is what happens when I tune into UA-cam for history🤦♂️
Now we all know islam was spread peacefully by word of mouth etc. What's this about unbeatable armies and threat of retaliation if you didn't do what you were supposed to? Sounds like islamophobia to me.
“MUCH of Asia”??? Bruh, the Middle East isn’t MUCH of Asia. apparently whiever wrote this script doesn’t know Asia includes China, Mongolia, Central Asia, India, Southeast Asia, Japan, Siberia, Tibet… MUCH of Asia, my foot. stop with the western-centric view of the world.
CORRECTIONS. 1- IT WAS NOT ABBSIDS ARMY BUT IT WAS THE AB ARMY MAINLY OF PERSIANS LATER THEY HANDED THE KINGDOM TO ABBSIDS BEACUSE THE ISLAMIC LAWS ALLOW ONLY THE HASHIMAT ONLY TO RULE. 2- UMMAYED ARMY HAD A LOT OF CHRISTIANS IN IT, BEACUSE LEVANT MAINLY WERE CHRISTIANS. 3- BOTH ARMIES WERE NAINLY NOT ARABS.
Islamic law in it's early form the Ruler was to be from Quraish not Hashem sepcificly The soldiers were Muslims from the yamanite Arab tribes who migrated to Syria after the destruction of Ma'rib dam and after the conquest they converted to Islam and Muawiyah established his relations with them after the Plague of amwas when he was a governer of Syrian in the late caliphate of Umar and Uthman They were Arabs but the Abbasid were mixed from Arabs who are from Iraq, Arabs who lived in Iran and Iranians who converted to Islam
@@BESTINTHEWORLD0007 THE MINSTERS IN UMMAYED COURTS WERE CHRISTIANS LIKE SURJOHN AND THE WRITTING IN UMMAYED STATE WAS FOLLOWING ROMANS DEWAN UNTIL LATELY WAS CHANGED TO ARABIC. YOU DO NOT EXPECT PEPOLE SUDDENLY CHANGE THEIR RELIGION EVEN رو THE ARABS WERE CHRISTIANS SLOWLY THE MAJORITY CONVERTED TO ISLAM. ABU MUSLIM ALKORSANI INTENTION WAS TO GIVE THE RULE OF ISLAMIC WORLD TO BIN HASHIM, BUT BIN HASHIM DIDN'T WANT TO RULE AT THOSE TIME, THEN ABO MUSLUM GIVE TO THIER COUSINS THE ABBSIDS.
Muawiya - may Allah be pleased with him - believed every thing prophet Muhammad - peace be upon him - taught . i do not know from where you got the idea that he disagreed with him .
The fact: in every second he said that a huge number of soldier was christian😂❤ Bro in sasanid era The christians of iran was heavily forced to became zoroaster or didn't spread their religion and the one of the causes of these moves was that christian populations in iran hasbeen assmilated so why u said many of the soldier of abbasids were christian Then why u instead did not said they were zoroasters? or THEY WERE NON-ARAB MUSLIMS WHO WERE IRANIANS THAT CONVERTED TO ISLAM?
@@PatriotOfPersia I don’t blame you hating for Arabs, they overthrew your empire, which you are proud of, but the real stupidity is what the world sees every year, the Iranians beating themselves with chains and crying because of the death of a person 1400 years ago.
Actually the end of the video is wrong. The last heir of the Umayyads run away, he took control of Iberia and became caliph of Al-Andalus.
No,, Abd-al-Rahman I became Emir of "Emirate of Cordoba". Abd-al-Rahman III is the one became caliph
Wrong he became the Amir of Cordoba not the caliph because the only caliph is "the Abbasid caliph abi alabas The butsher"
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
I know the story , it' was like a thriller movie
It’s all propaganda fake history anyways, that’s all Islam is, the Abassids created Islam, there’s no historical evidence or record for it before the Abassids
If Caliph Suleiman ibn Abd al-Malik did not desire to fulfill the prophecy by becoming the blessed Muslim commander who will seized Constantinople for Islam according to the prophecy of the Prophet, the Umayyad Caliphate could have saved a lot of money and the rebellion against them might be averted.
The prophet is mostly wrong so they probably didn’t really believe it. That’s why the Umayyads caliphate only lasted a mere 100 years, it was them that organized Islam and the Quran(fixed some of the lies and added more lies)
@@TopagendadollaYet another conspiracy theorist...🤦♂️
@@History_Teller1250 No he isn't! There is no conspiracy theory in his words.
The Awaited Mahdi: What in God’s name? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am Syrian, may God have mercy on our ancestors Hisham bin Abdul Malik, Abdul Rahman Al-Dakhel, Muslima bin Abdul Malik, and many grandparents 💔🇸🇾
1. Abbasid superiority 2. Catastrophic defeats from the romans 3. Revolts everywhere
Do you mean after they conquered half the roman Empire and all of Persia 😂
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 oh boy here comes rhe copium from arabs lol
@@shadowgod1797 Sounds like you are still trying to cope from the fact that Muslims owned the romans and ended them for good lol
@@shadowgod1797 no it's true tho
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 that doesn't make their comment any less factual, so what's your point exactly? you can conquer half of a country, then still lose key battles to said country that cause another country to wipe yours out because of those battles. unless you're trying to brag about one point in history, to which my question would be.. how'd that work out for you today?
هناك العديد من الاخطاء مثل ان الخلافة يجب ان تكون لشخص ينحدر من نسب مباشرة فلم يكن ابو بكر و لا عمر و لا عثمان يعتبروا ممن ينحدر حتى معاوية من ناحية النسب اقرب للنبي من عمر و ابو بكر
ايضا معاوية لم تحدث في عهده الكثير من الاضطرابات و اذا حدثت فكان يتعامل معها باللين حتى انه كان مضرب المثل بالصبر و الحلم على من يظلمونه اما القمع بعنف و وحشية حدثت في عهد عبدالملك بن مروان و ابنه الوليد
طبعا الكثير من الاخطاء الاخرى لكنها كثيرة ،ارجو ان يؤخذ ما اقوله و ان تاخذ من المصادر الصحيحة
والله جدا استغربت من المعلومات والمغالطات في هذا الفيديو. ونشرت تعليقا بالانجليزيه تقريبا نفس الكلام الذي انت نشرته.
أغرب ما سمعت: "معاوية كان يخالف تعاليم الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم عندما كان كاتبا له". ما هذه التفاهات؟ ليته ذكر المصادر.... رضي الله عن معاوية وعن ابوه وعن أخوه.
So, basically this video is worthless? Good to know. And thank god for google translate
جعلك الله مع معاوية وجعلنا مع علي آمين 🤲 @@Abdulrahman_Hi
@@ElectronFieldPulse This video is very much worthless as they put a lot of emphasis on the unethicality of Muawiya. Within Islamic history, there are the Shia sources who extremely exaggerate the corruption of Muawiya and all other companions of the prophet peace be upon them all.
To give you such examples, Shias claim historic accuracy of the following:
- Omar burned down Fatimah's home.
- Omar broke into Fatimah's home with brute force, making the door's nail shoot out toward Fatimah's pregnant belly, breaking her ribs, and causing her miscarriage.
- Omar forced Ali to allow him to rape one of Ali's daughters.
- Omar dragged Ali through on the dirt to force Ali's allegiance.
All of Omar's presumable actions happened under the watchful eye of the very same Ali, the revered all-powerful Shia character.
They claim the above (AND MANY MORE) without proof. They convert hearsay, hardly even a rumor, to facts. They have no chain of narrations, nor biographies of the person delivering these information, no proof.
Now imagine taking your information for a historic video you are about to create from the very same people of make historic accuracy of the above mentioned incidents...
@@Anas.Rajpoot_804 هل ممكن نتناقش بأدب, حتى نتوصل لنتيجة ترضي الله سبحانه ةتعالى؟
هل ممكن نتناقش مسألة عصمة الإثني عشر؟ هل هم حقا معصومون؟ وما الدليل على ذلك من القرآن والسنه؟
One thousand three hundred years have passed, and the Umayyads have gone with it, but still some losers blame them for their modern-day failures, what a great empire!
Ummayad weren’t great neither good they were mfs trash rulers
But losers do you mean us shiites ? Also which failures ? We aren’t failing in the current day , not in the slightest .
We blame muawiya for and yazid for every bad thing today for preventing the rule of the imams ( and therefore would have established the messianic nation back then )
The loser?your means the grandson of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, who was defeated by the Umayyads
Sunni muslim☕️
@@Amen6magi he means the shiites since an imam ( i forgot which one ) said that there were many opportunities for the messianic nation to be established , but they were always ruined so far ( once by muawiya and once by yazid ) . But he was blaming the people not muawiya and yazid ( although they are both bad people as agreed by all shiites )
@@U.K.N he say (loser) the person lose infront of omayad
8:15 it always grinds my gears when people say Spain and not Hispania or Iberia, they're not the same. Spain only became a thing in the 18th century.
even more so lusitania was it’s own province, and hispania splitt into citerior and uperior.
Even weirder was that he said "ruled over modern day... " then listed 3 modern day countries before freestyling with North Africa, Spain and Central Asia while simultaneously showing only pieces of all of them and including Portugal and parts of Pakistan. And he didn't even list every area they ruled over so there was clearly no pressure.
حتى الغرب بيعرفو انه الفرس والشيعة هم قتلة آل البيت 😂😂😂
Really awesome Video! I have one bit of constructive criticism tho: could you please link your sources in the description in the future? I would love to read more about the topic and it would really install confidence in the truthfullness of you guys' Videos ^^
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
@@ghostd69 yk how someone could proofread the video more easily? By seeing the sources given
@@ghostd69 anyone can edit on wikipedia
1:22
You made a fatal mistake
The Umayyads were not defeated in the Zab by Abu Muslim, but by Abdullah bin Ali, a member of the Abbasid dynasty.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
@@ghostd69
I literally began to suspect that these channels depend on Wikipedia as the primary source of information
The funny thing is that even Wikipedia says that the army that put the Abbasids in power was Arab
"Most of the Khorasani soldiers who brought the Abbasids to power were Arabs.[160]"
@@Faisal-pb5guthen who were khorashani???
@@rambikshprasad4648
Iranian and turks. But we talking about arabs tribes and army living in khoursan
@@ghostd69
Khorasani is a geographical description, like a Syrian or Iraqi description, not linked to a specific ethnicity
why don't you also mention millions of Zoroastrians that were in Iran under Umayyads?
So True
Most of them converted to Islam and became Muslims; a minority still live in Iran in the city of Yazd, mostly and some went to India
Because this channel is a bit biased. Cherry picking information sometimes instead of the whole picture. Didn't say, mention anything about the help Constantinople received by Khan Tervel and the Bulgarian army who cleared the fields infront of the walls.
@@Thefendi-
Iran did not become a Muslim majority until during Seljuk rule
@@westsidermetalhead4997
Trevel khan and his blugars army did nothing important but rather than attacking an retreated army during their withdrawl and the army were suffering dieases and hungry and cold weather and greek fire playing big role destroying major army
The native berbers of morocco defeated three umayyads army one after one after one after one and you didn't put that in the video specially the berbers of North Africa fight against umayyad caliphate army's for over 70 years non stop in the end the umayyads lost Morocco and Algeria and after 7 years of this the umayyad caliphate get destroyed by the new super power the Abbasid caliphate (non Arabs Persians)
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Berber never fought umayyad for 70 years old it was just some battles and berber revolt was eventually crushed in battle al asnam and al qarn, algeria was remain under umayyad and people of tanger in morcco pledge of allegiance to handela ibn safwan who crushed berber revolt in battle al asnam in chlef modern algeria
Abbasids were Arabs bruh, they were descendants of uncle Abbas of prophet Muhammad,but tolerant towards non-arabs
"of Morocco"
@@ghostd69 handled bent safwan barely only partially maintained the rebellion and within years Sufrites of Warfjuma took over Kairouan deleting out the quraish family. At best Eastern Algeria had remained under their rule for a bit.
Abu al-Abbas al-Saffah is one of the figures who formed the original institution that had an impact on the Islamic world. He is the one who organized this revolution that became known as the Black Flags Revolution. He was given a nickname by this name, al-Saffah, because of the large amount of blood he shed.
Persian abumuslim killed six hundred thousand Arabs.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
@@ghostd69 but he killed six hundred thousand Arabs.
10:09So are you telling me that the Berbers, the Spaniards, the Persians, the Egyptians, the Kurds and the Syrians were 10% of the population?😅
thats what im saying
Arabs were a minority ruling over a overwhelmingly non Arab population
Caliphate's main ethnicity was Arab
He talks about Muslims, Islam was new to them then, I even doubt it reached 10%
@@Teknite nope
12:11
Another mistake
The revolution was not in Persia (western Iran), but in Khorasan (eastern Iran), a place where the Persians were always a minority. Most of the revolutionaries were Shiite Arabs (descendants of the Arabs who were displaced from Iraq in the era of Muawiyah I)
Persians were minority in khorasan?😂😂😂even today the population is majority persian speaking
@@darthpigeon
At that time they were a minority
The majority of the Khorasanis spoke the Sogdian, Bactrian, and Khwarezmian languages
Dari Persian spread after Islam under the rule of the East Iranian/Turkic dynasties
@Faisal-pb5gu depends on what part of khorasan you're speaking if we speaking the western part of khorasan(which was the most populated part) persian had become the major language replacing parthian by the late years of sassanids
That’s not a mistake, he’s using Persia and Iran synonymously. I realize Persians and Iranians aren’t the same thing, but referring to that whole area over there as either “Persia” or “Iran” is a matter of using an exonym or an endonym
@@JackBowman-vs6kv
Describing the Eastern Iranians as Persians is similar to describing the Phoenicians and Assyrians as Arabs
Persia is an inaccurate foreign name because Persians have always been an ethnic minority in Iran
11:29 And also with the help of Khan Tervel and the Bulgarian army who sandwiched the Umayyad army against the walls of Constantinople.
Nah they only attacked after the Romans did no less than 100% of the work
The Bulgars just saw a way to get some loot.
@@westsidermetalhead4997
Trevel khan and blugars army didn't do anything they didn't apporach consantinople wall till arab withdrawl, blugars attacked umayyad during their retreat they didn't help in raise of siege on city
You literally look like a redditor, what would you know 😂@@SamBrockmann
If Abbasid and umayad merged they would of been the largest empire ever
Before the third khalifa die he requested help from his cousin but his cousin didn't respond and his main reason for war was because ali wanted to remove him from his place
Are you talking about Wiz?
@@MuffinManUSNwhat is wiz?
Ali infact never tried to remove anyone , he is well known for not revolting against Abu bakr even tho his relatives and followers told him to do so , he did not so the islamic world would not get into fighting eachother , the next rashudin calips were so unpopular that when 3 of them died people Asked ali to come rule , which he did and fighted many rebels.
Ali was treated unfairly as was his sons. 🤷♂️
It’s kind of ironic with how Muslims today, especially the concerts in America seem to become Arabized. They take Arab names and wear Arab clothing even though they live in NYC or Philly.
Its ironic as it’s always been one reason for revolts in the past. The people didn’t like being forced to forget everything from before when they converted to Islam.
It’s also ironic as historically, Muhammad’s family was treated unfairly. Ali and Fatimah as well as Husain and Hassan and the rest of the family were all treated unfairly and you can see that is the case for generations. Treated unfairly by rulers who didn’t like the attention they got.
But now a day the history is ignored 🤷♂️ Muslims have always been their own worst enemies lol
Wow bro you couldn't have said it more. Most of Muslims today choose to follow the ways of the Ummayeds and Abbasid Islam rather the Islam of Muhammad and his ahul al bayt. That's why you see Shia fight for Palestinian while the rest watch, no some of them even help the zionist. @@YaakovEzraAmiChi
There is a fair number of mistakes and misinformation in this video, and it is clear that some of the sources were Shiite, who were known to have rewritten history in their own favor, but overall it does give a rough idea of what happened.
I studied this topic for 6 years at school and beyond school as I am a saudi, and it is a very important topic to study for our education system.
They took Jizya from new Muslims, so they didn't rule by what Allah revealed.
seriously??? i didn't know that
where can i find evidence of that
Exactly
who
And even prevented some non-Muslims from converting to Islam for that reason.
1:44 Stats of the Umuyyad Caliphate, the largest Islamic Arab empire of all time.
6:50 This first Caliph Mu'awaya set the foundatuons for the Umayyad Caliphate to be stable in the future.
The last living Umayad prince Abd al Rahman fled to Iberia and there continued Umayad rule in the form of beautiful Al Andalus.
It's not Spain. It's the Iberian peninsula. Spain did not exist yet then.
Hispania
Does it really matter bro?
@@nuncasaberas5926Yup Hispania.
Hispania or Iberian Peninsula
@@nuncasaberas5926Hispania is given by romans.
Even though the reasons for the Umayyad downfall are sandwiched in-between a whole bunch of peripheral information, a more descriptive title for this video would've been "Rise and fall of the Umayyad Caliphate".
Good video !
The largest Muslim empire ever in history and the second greatest one!
Wonderful presentation. 👏 They had control of Andalusia for many years & their bloodlines mixed. Good reason why many South American looks Middle Eastern today.
Thanks.
Would have liked a more detailed coverage of the Battle of Zab but it did give me a nice overview.
Abu Muslim Abd al-Rahman ibn Muslim [1] was a Persian[2][3] general who led the Abbasid Revolution that toppled the Umayyad dynasty, leading to the establishment of the Abbasid Caliphate.
The video did not point anything about the Persian man who overthrow Umayyid caliphicate...
@@he4620
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Zaaar we poorsians defeated ummayad 😂😂😂😂😂 learn history poorsian
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Wow!!!This is a fascinating video of how the Umayyad Empire crumbled systematically after not even a centrury of ruling,good friends!!!:-D
They were nonetheless a very influential empire, you gotta acknoweledge that
@@valeriodelaurentiis5614acknowledgia
@@valeriodelaurentiis5614 altho i think the abbasid which started the islamic golden age were even more influential
They spread Islam ,most of the theological , scientific and intellectual things were in Abbasid era not to mention their heritage to other Islamic states such as Seljuks, Mamluks and Ottomans@@MazyarGheidi
@@valeriodelaurentiis5614
Abbasid took knoweldge from umayyad and their gov system and etc they learnt many things from umayyad
very useful for history buffs like me❤
The ʿAbbasids were descended from an uncle of Muhammad. Seeing the weaknesses of the Umayyads, they declared a revolt in 747. With the help of a coalition of Persians, Iraqis, and Shīʿites, they put an end to the Umayyad dynasty with a victory against them at the Battle of the Great Zab River in 750.
🇸🇦❌🇮🇷✅Iranian Abu Muslim Khorasani overthrew the Umayyad caliphate and defeated their powerful army and brought the Abbasids to power, but the Abbasids killed her, the Arabs never had honor🇮🇷
He was not only the commander, but also the leader of the movement against the Umayyads, I wish he would have become the king himself.
Thank God that I am Arab and also from Hijaz🇸🇦🔥
Was abbasid sunni or shia ?
@@deepworld7 sunni
Sunni
@@Poiyti سني
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about Aumayyad empire collapsed by Abbassid revolutionary armies...video clearly explained all reasons which imposed people's backed Abbassid assaults against former Aumayyed government from khorasan to Iran and Iraq....Aumayyed empire economic, society tyranny was unthinkable and horrible comparably to previous Rashedden caliphate Era....even in Syria
I am your frequent visitor and watcher of Chanel . please make video on below topic in detail.
Video on Decline of Abbasid caliphate and dawn of turks especially seljik turks and expansion to ottoman turks and other turks if possible????
Abu muslim was a Persian too
You should have included the Great Berber revolt and the Murji'ah rebellions in Persia/Khorasan and the Kharijite rebellions of the Iraqi marshes and Najid and the Zaydi Shia revolts
What do you expect from ignorant people North Africa Barbaria or Tamazgha was the graveyeard of Arab armies. Also the Battle of Tours and Poitiers in which many Umayyad soldiers died had an impact on the Umayyads
@@mauromaurito532
All those revolt was crushed Berber berber revolt was eventually crushed in battle al asnam and al qarn, algeria was remain under umayyad and people of tanger in morcco pledge of allegiance to handela ibn safwan who crushed berber revolt in battle al asnam in chlef modern algeria and battle of tour or poitiers is same battle it was skrmkish and party raid didn't impact on umayyad and umayyas was countine with raid into francia after that battle
@@ghostd69 no not true Tunisia remained under Arab authority but the whole of Algeria and Morocco and Mauretania was ruled by Amazigh tribes the Kutama and Senhaja tribes ruled eastern Algeria the Fatimids who ousted the Aghlabids were helped by the Kutama who lived in Eastern Algeria
@@ghostd69 no after the Battle of Tours and Poitiers which was due to the arrogance of the Arab racistst never never dared the Muslims go north to France or Belgium there is even a large graveyeard called Balat Al Shuhada look it up. The Warfajuma berbers also attacked North Tunisia
@@mauromaurito532
East algeria was also under umayyad and battle al asnam took place in west algeria crushed berber and also abd rahman al fahiri marched into west algeria and entered telemcen and cities around chasing down rest of berber rebles. Kutama and sanhaja was also crushed by abbasid general mohamed ibn al ash't al khouzai
4:17 alright it’s way more complicated than that and there are many parts that don’t make sense in the story
I see that the Umayyads just were not liked by people
mainly due to greed, umayad refused to arabize and islamize locals(genocide/eviction/conversion) just so they can tax more and not "waste" money while they did it.
as harsh as it is, those are one of the absolute necessities to ensure long term unity.(even today arabs have far less dna relations than french/english/germans)
Why you don't mentioned the backstabbing of the Abu Muslim by the calipha.
Crazy what you can get people to believe with enough violence
Crazy How People Dont Know Even A Bit About History But Still Say Their Opinion As If They Are 100% Right
@user-hv2jb1zq1r it's all an Op-Ed anymore
Crazy how humans attacks other religios groupe, but forget, that christians even killed, rape and Forced conversion. The juws are was the First one….
He clearly mentioned that the majority of the Umayyad population were non-Muslims and that's the Umayyads were tolerant to other faiths..
The 'violence' mentioned in the video was suppressing revolutions... Because well allowing them would break the country into pieces
@@MazyarGheidi Yeah totally agree with you.
Is this a reupload?
Moroccan Berber revolt of 740 broke the Umayyads back. Shocked there is no mention of this.
It wasn’t a “Moroccan” revolt since Morocco didn’t exist back then. And the Berbers failed to take the Umayyad provincial capital of Kairouan.
Moroccan? Lol. Morocco didn’t even exist. Stop embarrassing yourself Bousbirian.
@-Blast
But the fatimed berbers take kairawan and the all of Tunisia
@@-BlastIt was Moroccan since vast majority of the rebelliers were from Morocco and by the way Morocco existed as the kingdom of Mauretania
@@blutherhood3893Kingdom of Mauretania isn't related to the Moroccan identity which started with the Idrisids.
Mauretanian tribes were also in nowdays Algeria and Numdian tribes were also present in nowdays Morocco.
You Moroccan nationalists and Algerian nationalists shoudn't touch our Berber history.
Alot of Houara Berbers and Ifranid Berbers in the Trara, Aures mountains formed around half of all Berber rebels
You didn't mention the Great Berber revolt against Umayyad arabs' tyranny ...
Look it's a western wannabe.
Oh the berbers, the pioneers of human freedom...oh wait they were a slaver nation
@@Based_Beeastlook it's an "eastern" sigma wannabe
@@valeriodelaurentiis5614At least he is a sigma not gay.
@HH-yj3jc
At least his alfa not a pedophile
it's not 100 % of correct story but it's good video for non Muslims and non Arab to understand some of Middle East long History 👍🏼
Does the Umayyads have something to do with Islam?
Changing teams and being "caliph" with violence. Being racist and murdering your political opponents Has nothing to do with Islam...
Technicaly No , cause they were not even connected to prophet himself
Of course it did 😏 Umayyads drove the final nail into the Sunni-Shia Schism 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 to bring an end to the Fitna Wars 🤪
@@tnrz5696 Do you understand my question?
@@sulemanmanaffabdul4699 yes i'm sure that my answer is good enough
In spite of all of the civil wars, governmental changes, border shifts, cultural drift, etc. We view Rome as a continuous historical narrative. Its odd how that is not applied to Islamic empires. In spite of the fact they shared common, language, culture, religion, and occupied similar geographic spheres.
From what I understand, the tax for non-Muslims, or Jizya, is technically less than the mandatory taxes for Muslims, and could be exempted with military service.
Even the weterns know the persian and Shia are the one who assassined Ali 😂 👍🏻
If someone is chosen to rule by the past ruler, that is called being “appointed”, not “elected.” You incorrectly stated that the Rashidun Caliphate “elected” their leaders when in fact they appointed them. I don’t even think it is possible for leaders of an empire to be elected.
It was a mix of both honestly
The thing is, if you go for strict democracy then the ignorance of the masses will rule, but since Rashidun Caliphs were pious, they would suggest someone to replace them in case something happens to them, who will then be approved or disapproved by the general public, it simply never happened that he was disapproved of
And as seen in this video, people who seek power assassinated Ali who was elected as Caliph and got a hold of the Caliphate
Had this mode of power transition remained, then the world would have looked vastly different, and the Islamic world would have been unified under one leadership.
That's why many Muslims wish for the caliphate to be brought back in that sense, as it gave more power to the people, true Caliphate is what you can call a smart democracy
They were in places they weren’t supposed to be
That's why we keep Bleach around
Kind of like today
As if romans and Byzantine greeks belonged to North Africa, middle east, gaul, breton?
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
Did you even made the effort to watch the video ?
The racist policy of the Umayyads caused the fall of the Umayyad Empire also the treatment of Berbers like for instance the demands of Jizzyah and slaves to the Muslim Berbers was the straw and provoked a catastrophic revolt
Un video de la guardia varega
One correction: muawiya was also close as he was also qurayshi. His sister was married to prophet Muhammad
So technically Spain has legitimacy 😂
It's Morocco that caused the collapse of the Umayyad empire, Moroccan Berbers killed the Ummayad elite forces that the Abassids wouldn't be able to overcome and also caused other rebellions.
30 million did not equal 1/3 of the worlds population. It was more like 1/10
fit's was in fact Persian upraising, why show abo Muslim as a central Asian guy? he was iranian
He was Persian Khorossani actually
Do a video on the Dabuyid Dynasty.
Because they didn’t believe in Allah hard enough
This is true. They just wanted money, there is a reason the Rashidun (first Islamic Empire) was so dominant and impossible to defeat, they had principles and morals
The most heinous crime in history, no human being would do such things until I began to feel the ugliness that was done against the Umayyads who were subjected to a major attack and no attack against them was worth this, but the Abbasids are the filthiest types of hatred in the world and they are the ones who caused the destruction of the lives of millions of Umayyads and others because of their intense hatred charged with great evil, they killed the Umayyads in a horrific way and they used to say do not leave any Umayyad even if he held on to the curtains of the Kaaba, and this is a sentence that indicates that they exterminated the Umayyads and did not save one person or a few, including Abd al-Rahman al-Dakhil who reached the borders of Spain and saw safety and escaped from the areas that were very dangerous and formed a state and gathered an army from all religions and races, and when the Muslims thought of taking control of Andalusia, Abd al-Rahman bin Muawiyah gathered an army and confronted the Muslims who were under the rule of the Abbasids, and victory was an ally of Andalusia and he was given the title of the Falcon of Quraish
مهما اجتهدو الغرب في التاريخ العربي تحديدا راح يجهلون تفاصيل تؤدي الى اخطأ جسيمه في نقل المعلومات + لا اثق في الغرب في توصيل المعلومات نظرا لانهم يسيسيون المعلومات لصالحهم باي طريقه
Short answer: it grew too large in a short time.
What's with the overdone constant emphasis. We're all adults that dont need to be pandered to
This battle took place not far from my city.
5:22
What? All of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali may Allah be please with them, didn't come from direct lineage to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him... where did you get that information from?
Like Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman, Muawiyah may Allah be pleased with him is a distant cousin of Muhammad peace be upon him.
5:28
Again, WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? How can he oppose the prophet's beliefs? He would be immediately charged with blasphemy and the companions of the prophet will absolutely not tolerate such acts (death sentence most likely). Where are you getting this information from? And for you to portray it as "a matter of fact".
If you are citing your ridiculous information from Shia sources, then that explains the exagerrated resentment they have for Muawiyah may Allah be pleased with him.
This is nonsensical and unprofessional...🤢
6:05 this is getting ridiculous. He is totally getting his information from Shia sources only. Not only that, he is totally misinterpreting the shia sources, making ridiculous conclusions shias didn't even claim...
I am Syrian, may God have mercy on our ancestors Hisham bin Abdul Malik, Abdul Rahman Al-Dakhel, Muslima bin Abdul Malik, and many grandparents 💔🇸🇾
Actually no Islamic source says that a caliph must be from the prophet's family lineage.
Actually Ummayads were opposed by all medinites, meccans, Kufis and berbers
Yes there is
Very interesting
Next time make a video about the Great Berber revolt
Emmm I got a qurstion by the way if there the ummayad were stereotyping their people why did not the people take advantage of the civil war ?
3:45
how did the Prophet Muhammed die in 632ad?
that doesn't make any sense to me.
the bc ad calender is divided by the 30 or so years Jesus was alive.
so how is the Prophet Muhammed supposed to have lived according to this video almost 6-7 centuries after Jesus passed away?
it doesnt make any sense to me
i was always taught what eventually became Islam was begun when the Jewish/Hebrew/Persian/Babylonian wherever he was from originally Patriarch of Israel Abraham sent away Ishmail when Sarah finally became pregnant and went against her word and forced him to send away Ishmail and his mother into the desert/wilderness, and i was always taught/under the impression that it was only a few generations later the Islam rose up and that Islam was almost as old as Judaism/Israel itself and older by far then modern Christianity?
but this video is implying that Christianity is 7 centuries almost older then Islam is? i don't understand.
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Genealogy of Banu Umayyah
Abd Shams and Amr (Hashim) were the twin sons of Abd Manaf, the ruler of Makkah. Manaf belonged to the Quraish tribe and was a descendant of Hazrat Ibrahim bin Hazrat Ismail. Abd Shams was a self-centered and enterprising man while Amr was a public figure and was called Hashim because of his generosity. Hashim became the Chief of Makkah after the death of his father Manaf. Hashim lived long and after his death Mutlib younger brother of Hashim took over because Shiba son of Hashim was too young to shoulder the responsibilities as Chief. Later, Mutlib handedover the charge of chief of Kaaba to Shiba who is known as Abd Muttalib.
Abd Shams had no children and he bought and adopted a slave child Umayyah. Umayyah's son Sukhar kept a stray woman Fakhta in his house and from her Harb (Abu Sufyan) and Umm Jameel were born. Umm Jameel. was married to Al-Uzza (Abu Lahab) and both of them were condenmed by Allah in Surah Lahab due to their hostility towards Prophet Muhammad (SW). As such, the genealogy of Umayyads is connected with the slave Umayya who remained the enemy of Hashem and this enimety continued in his descendant.
Umayyads were called descendants of a Slave on three occasions:
1- On the occasion of the conquest of Makkah, the Holy Prophet said to Abu Sufyan and his followers, "Go away you the descendant of a freed slave, I have forgiven you.
2- In the letter written to Muawiya, Mawla Ali (ES) wrote, "Descendant of a freed slave how can you compare yourself with the emigrants?" (Nahj al-Balagha: Letters to Muawiyah)
3- In Yazid's court, Bibi Zainab(SE) addressing him said, "O child of a freed slave, how dare you tallk to us
You didnt even mentioned the main leader of this revolutionary which he was Persian abu muslim khorasani (behzadan pur vandad)
He was the main reason of umayyid defeat !! And later he got murdered by the second abbasid caliphate al mansur beacuse of the arabs fear of his powers and popularity !!
He was mentioned in the video and even claimed that he was the one who defeated the Umayyads in Zab, although all Arab sources state that the one who defeated the Umayyads was Abdullah bin Ali, a member of the Abbasid dynasty.
Abu muslim never ever lead or was involving in battle of zab!! It was abdallah ibn ali. abu muslim only took over merv and hold abbasid flag. read my comments because its based of historical sources not from wikipdia. more than half abbasid army was made up of arab tribes of iraqi and khoursan even majority general was arabs only 2 persian abu muslim and ibn awn. Qatahba ibn shabib is arab was the main general carried out on major abbasid revolt he took persia and iraq from umayyad for final battle which its zab was lead by another arab abdallah ibn ali. Many sources agreed on it such as chrincole of 757 and islamic sources confirmed it was abdallah ibn ali who lead like al tabari in his book history of al tabari vol 7 page 432 and ibn kathir book Al Bidaya wan Nihaya vol 13 page 254 and 255 and many historians agreed there is no mention of abu muslim in battle of zab wikipdia is not realiable sources menioned name abu muslim in battle of zab in wikipdia page made by iranian probganda
Lets jump how umayyad was fell during thrid fitna occured 745 the princes of umayayd cousin was fought each other in throne and conflicts rivlary between al Qays and Yaman fighting each other in khoursan and iraq, although marwan managed to kill 3 princes fighting in throne Al Walid II and yazid III and ibrahim who caused fitna and people of levantine was getting upest due umayyad goverment drove into corruption, when marawn was unable to end internal conflicts he decided to abandon damascus capital of umayyad that was main power for umayyad and moved capital Harran leaving fitna to be on going till abbasid took advantage established their revolution in 747 and announcement of establishment their state. not trying down playing marawn was great he leading succesfully champigan aganist khazar and bezntyine and arabs khwarijies but he did mistake but moving capital and leaving fitna on going which on of main reason islamic sources called him " the donkey " if he didn't such stupid thing like that abbasid wouldn't came into existence.
true abu muslim regreted he helped arabs that he should have helped his fellow persians to take over persia again instead of helping abbasids what a shame
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He did not regret that he helped the Arabs
He regretted killing thousands of Muslims. You can read the correspondence between him and Caliph Al Mansur. He did not talk about Arabs, Persians, or any of the modern nationalist nonsense.
In any case, he died as a scum begging pardon for his life from the Caliph
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Helping arabs ? Without abbasid support abu muslim wouldn't do anything he was mawali to arab tribe working to them as an clothing trader and thanks to arab tribes who revolt aganist umayyad and delcaring in thrid fitna before abbasid start their revolt, he tried to take over persia but abu jafar al mansour stopped him plus he wasn't nationlist he was just Pledge of allegiance to abbasid
What are saying! Mu,aawiya is closer to the prophet than 3 of the caliphates. He was his in-law. And he had never opposed the prophet, in fact he is famous by being one of the men that the prophet specially prayed for. What are you saying!
The Empire Umayyad is Syria 🇸🇾❤
Cito power in syria
No learn history,poor immigrant
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No mentioning the Bulgarian help at the battle of Constantinople 🥺
I don't think there was millions of Christians it's quite big number
Many people in the comments section are complaining about baseless statement been said in this vid.
The biggest catastrophy in the islamic history , the fall of umayad caliphate
I would say the first fitna is a bigger catastrophe.
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The first fitna was tamed by the King of Muslims Muawiyah bin Abi Sufyan (ra)
But the effects of the fall of the Umayyad empire are still being paid by Muslims to this day
@@hsmo5_671 no I don't think so, because the first fitna resulted in the Three sects (sunna, shia, ibadi) and the prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him told us not to devide into sects.
It also resulted in more revolts and tribalry because the ummayads did prefer Arabs or some Arabs out of other Muslims (I'm not saying it's mu'awiya's may Allah be pleased with him fault).
What did the fall of the ummayads result in ?
I went away and unsubscribed. Saying this much lies and misinformation in one video is shocking. You spent a few minutes praising Ummayed which is one of the most racist and brutal empires in history. You talked about inovations they had but never said what exactly was their innovations? They barely syated in power for 100 years and in that time burnt so many books and mostly destroyed everything. This is what happens when I tune into UA-cam for history🤦♂️
Listen to me brother, I love history but I don't know English. How can I learn English brother?
3:40 Mia Successor? 😂
Now we all know islam was spread peacefully by word of mouth etc. What's this about unbeatable armies and threat of retaliation if you didn't do what you were supposed to? Sounds like islamophobia to me.
There wasn’t no damn Christian’s the Abbasid was led my Muhammad’s family 😂
“MUCH of Asia”??? Bruh, the Middle East isn’t MUCH of Asia.
apparently whiever wrote this script doesn’t know Asia includes China, Mongolia, Central Asia, India, Southeast Asia, Japan, Siberia, Tibet… MUCH of Asia, my foot.
stop with the western-centric view of the world.
In the ancient world, Asia's borders ended with China, no one in the heart of world knew what was beyond that
@@Alqoaity Lol, so everyone was scared of going beyond the unknown lands?? 😂
@@LexlutherVII Europe colonized and enslaved your people. No one is afraid of you
@@LexlutherVIIthey never know it exists
The franks helped abassids against omyads
CORRECTIONS.
1- IT WAS NOT ABBSIDS ARMY BUT IT WAS THE AB ARMY MAINLY OF PERSIANS LATER THEY HANDED THE KINGDOM TO ABBSIDS BEACUSE THE ISLAMIC LAWS ALLOW ONLY THE HASHIMAT ONLY TO RULE.
2- UMMAYED ARMY HAD A LOT OF CHRISTIANS IN IT, BEACUSE LEVANT MAINLY WERE CHRISTIANS.
3- BOTH ARMIES WERE NAINLY NOT ARABS.
Islamic law in it's early form the Ruler was to be from Quraish not Hashem sepcificly
The soldiers were Muslims from the yamanite Arab tribes who migrated to Syria after the destruction of Ma'rib dam and after the conquest they converted to Islam and Muawiyah established his relations with them after the Plague of amwas when he was a governer of Syrian in the late caliphate of Umar and Uthman
They were Arabs but the Abbasid were mixed from Arabs who are from Iraq, Arabs who lived in Iran and Iranians who converted to Islam
@@BESTINTHEWORLD0007 THE MINSTERS IN UMMAYED COURTS WERE CHRISTIANS LIKE SURJOHN AND THE WRITTING IN UMMAYED STATE WAS FOLLOWING ROMANS DEWAN UNTIL LATELY WAS CHANGED TO ARABIC. YOU DO NOT EXPECT PEPOLE SUDDENLY CHANGE THEIR RELIGION EVEN رو THE ARABS WERE CHRISTIANS SLOWLY THE MAJORITY CONVERTED TO ISLAM. ABU MUSLIM ALKORSANI INTENTION WAS TO GIVE THE RULE OF ISLAMIC WORLD TO BIN HASHIM, BUT BIN HASHIM DIDN'T WANT TO RULE AT THOSE TIME, THEN ABO MUSLUM GIVE TO THIER COUSINS THE ABBSIDS.
In the time of the Umayyads and Abbasids, if you were not an Arab, you were just a slave whom we used in wars and when keeping sheep😂
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Lmaooo smartest poorsian with an Arab name
Cool 😎
Muawiya - may Allah be pleased with him - believed every thing prophet Muhammad - peace be upon him - taught . i do not know from where you got the idea that he disagreed with him .
"The Caliphate was extremely tolerant with other faiths!" ...cough...jizyah tax...cough...
Tolerant COMPARED to their contemporary. Take, say, 19th century Russian Empire with Kosher Tax, and (occasionally) conscriptions, plus pogroms.
The umayyad caliphate even forced jizya on Muslims native berbers
Maybe they are tolerant for other faiths with same race but we are pretty sure that they weren't tolerant with the non-Arab Muslims
@@samiman5606 please post your sources on that claim.
They didn't really care about your religious they just wanted a reason to tax you...some became Muslims but they still taxed them
The fact: in every second he said that a huge number of soldier was christian😂❤
Bro in sasanid era
The christians of iran was heavily forced to became zoroaster or didn't spread their religion and the one of the causes of these moves was that christian populations in iran hasbeen assmilated
so why u said many of the soldier of abbasids were christian
Then why u instead did not said they were zoroasters?
or THEY WERE NON-ARAB MUSLIMS WHO WERE IRANIANS THAT CONVERTED TO ISLAM?
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Also 75th comment my first :)
8:51 except for what they did to the shiites
5:30 name ONE belief that Muawiyah opposed as a scribe??????
Roman got they lick back in the end
Far west was Portugal.... 8:22 Portugal is the oldest country in europe. Why talk spain if Portugal is older?
Probably because Cordoba the most prominent city in Al-Andalus was in Spain and not Portugal and it held more Importance.
Yeah, being assassinated en masse by a rival faction will do that to you
Un video de la guerra arabe-bizantina
Why u don't mentioned zoroastrians that were in iran?
Why should he mention them?
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Because majority of Iranians were Zoroastrian
@@PatriotOfPersia And what does this have to do with the topic?
@@Mohammed-jf2sp
You don't need to prove that you are an Arab by saying nonsense.
@@PatriotOfPersia I don’t blame you hating for Arabs, they overthrew your empire, which you are proud of, but the real stupidity is what the world sees every year, the Iranians beating themselves with chains and crying because of the death of a person 1400 years ago.
short answer: disunity
When tyrants rulled