Three kings ruled in China. Three kings, each dreaming of ruling all under heaven. Three kings who rallied their armies for battle. The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Check out these informative articles from the Ancient History Encyclopedia for more reading! www.ancient.eu/article/1174/the-early-three-kingdoms-period/ www.ancient.eu/Han_Dynasty/ www.ancient.eu/Cao_Cao/
Ok This actual question, what was the pronunciation of Cao Cao, in ancient Chinese (during Han Dynasty) Modern Chinese is Tsao, but what about ancient? Maybe it's Tao?
@@frinkls5347 in chinese, the c of C-ao is like tch (in watch), the closest pronunciation for a Westerner that i hear is Chow (in Chow-der) or Tch-ao or this vid as reference, i dont find Tsao pronunciation accurate at all, too much emphasis on the s part
Exactly. Played too much Dynasty Warriors to ignore that. Also Pronunciations in this vid were kinda annoying. And colors all got switched form dynasty to (I assume) three kingdoms total war
That honestly threw me so much, that with the pronunciation I wasn't sure who was being talked about for a bit. Plus, don't go glossing over The Little Conquerer please.
One additional note, and this is real. Zhang Fei during the escape, didn't just burn the bridge down. He destroyed the bridge and yelled at the incoming Cao's cavalry forces and yelled ''I am Zhang Fei! Fight me to death!" No one came out forth and Zhang Fei was able to escape. This is ACTUAL history written by the Cao's historians. A REAL BADASS RIGHT THERE.
Theres barely any real historical accounts of three kingdoms besides the book so i doubt “cao caos” historians wrote anything that we can use today or there’d be alot more information that they’d provide apart from that goofy ass scene you just portrayed. If this were the case nobody could say most of TK was a myth/fictional book which they certainly do understandably because there’s almost no real evidence of literally any of this happening besides Yellow Turbans the only arguable sources that survived were from Cheng Yu, Yu Jin, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian nothing about Cao Cao having historians its a huge story mixed with myth and history so who knows what really even happened if it even happened nothing is confirmed at all besides the accounts we know are true. (Not from the book made 1000 years later) if one part of the story is a myth who knows what else was fabricated it almost discredits the entire series of events who knows they could’ve even had completely different names.
0:39 "And Cao being a practical man, knew the indomitable general was more valuable dead than alive." I think you've got that the wrong way round, mate.
So many people are getting on EC's backs for pronunciation even though there's a strong chance that many of the complainers themselves don't know how to pronounce the names properly. I know it's hard to listen to the pronunciations, but at least Chinese history is being covered more on UA-cam and the west in general. I've seen so many people on Total War forums say they already hate the new Three Kingdoms game because they're not interested in Chinese history and that's such a shame. This channel has always been a good starting off point to delve deeper into history of all the countries they've covered and I'm glad for it. I for one never would have even thought of Polynesian or Iranian history before I saw the series on this channel.
And we'd need something between Classical Chinese and Middle Chinese anyway for 2nd and 3rd century pronunciation. Compounded by likely to vary between the different regions of China.
I absolutely love the way it's presented, makes it a lot more dramatic and enjoyable, and I don't really care if you mispronounce the names, but the POV of the story is very much centered on Liu Bei as the good guy, which is understandable if your main source is the Romance of the Three Kingdoms but it has to be said that pretty much all three warlords used the same dirty tricks. Liu Bei had chronic betrayal disorder, Cao Cao buried enemy soldiers alive and Sun Quan also did some messed up stuff with the hill tribes. Cao Cao is not the "evil dark lord" we portray him to be.
@@joshuakostyushko Depends on what mode you are using, and what transliteration. Its usually transcribed as burzumishi or burzum-ishi, but i've seen burzum ishi as well. My edition of the book says burzum-ishi
Especially when you manage to safe your closest allies and thus get the opportunity to win the battle as Cao Cao, leading to conquering all China and SLAUGHTERING every major character. Those hypothetical stars were the best feature of the story mode in DW8
When you know how people normally pronounce these names isn't right, but you try so hard you end up pronouncing them even more wrong than you would otherwise.
The video's almost unwatchable purely because of the name mispronunciation. Seriously EC, just watch an episode or two of War of the Three Kingdoms on UA-cam and save me from this auditory torture.
Technically, the c's in Cao Cao are mainly pronounced with a combo of "ts" and "ch". Also, Zhuge Liang was a beast civil administrator. Strategist....? Er....so and so. Also, Cao Cao was already spending so much time trying to claim the North. Even though Jing was handed to him by Liu Cong on a silver platter, he still needed to crush Liu Bei and Sun Quan in a single swoop after being away from Xuchang for so long.
Logistician. On battlefield, Zhuge was legendary with logistics and delivering supplies to the army. They tend to be overlooked, as if only warriors and strategists matter.
Poor pronunciation of Chinese is not helped by bad Western spelling choices. At least when you're using Roman letters to spell Japanese words you get the proper phonetics sound. For example in chinese Tao is pronounced Dao, why do we use a t instead of a d I have no idea.
So my favorite part about the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is the idea that "Long united must divide, long divided must unite," when you kinda have to ignore the short life of the Jin dynasty compared to the Han, and the fact that following the fall of the Jin, there was more than 200 years of disunity reaching a 16 kingdoms period at one point.
The 'long divided, must unite; long united must divide' came from the first sentence Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel based on this history. 分 久 必 合 合 久 必 分 divide long must combine, combine long must divide It is so amazing that English in fact did captured that core idea of that sentences :D
Akabeurjub the problem isn't mispronunciation, I know people would still complain if they use the common Koei mispronunciation, but at least the common Koei mispronunciation makes sense for an English speaker. This pronunciation doesn't make sense intuitively from looking at either Pinyin or Wade-Giles AND it's not accurate. Worst of both worlds.
I'm curious, is there any evidence of a link between the Three Kingdoms Period, the Crisis of the Third Century, and the fall of the Parthian Empire? They all happened right around the same time, so I'm wondering if there were some climatic conditions common across all of them that could have aggravated internal issues.
Actually 'Sun' is not often spoken as 'soon' but indeed 'Sue-in' (rapidly). Just as 云 sounds closer to 'you-in' not 'yun' despite the PinYin indicating otherwise. or 军 is said as 'jew-win'. A sort of ghost second vowel creating a soft diphthong in the us of 'un' finals.
These things take time to make dude. Do you think they just spawn them out of the aether? They are going to keep making more no need to badger them to make more.
Learn the basics of making youtube videos. They already made all or most of them, and won't be able to address the issue until the Lies video. Did you think these were recorded like five minutes before they posted them?
You should split the Battle of Guandu and Red Cliff into 2 videos. There are so many stories to tell between these 2 battles. Moreover, you did not even mention Zhou Yu, the true hero of Red Cliff, he was the commander of the alliance and he defeated Cao Cao in every single engagement during the Red Cliff campaign
I'm Chinese and I have no problem with the mispronunciation. I think we should just appreciate that they're covering Chinese history instead of bitching about the slightest errors.
Chinese here as well. The only thing that I am a little concerned about is whether this depiction comes from actual historical records regarding the Three Kingdoms period, or if EH is using the narrative depicted in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Considering how he narrate Zhuge Liang as the greatest strategist, I am under the impression they are drawing from the novel, as Zhuge's intellect historically stems from his knowledge on government administration more than his military genius which is lacking compared to his godlike plans depicted in the novel.
@@macrossMX I completely understand if you're concerned with historical accuracy, I just wish people would stop attacking them for the slightest mispronunciations.
I love this channel, and this era of history (though this is clearly telling the story from the Romance, not real history), but my god the butchery of the names is PAINFUL
❤️❤️❤️ Zhuge Liang is such an interesting person to follow. Like he is a master strategist which after binge watching Extra History strategy is everything and decides who lives, dies, and frequently escapes.
Battle of the Chang Ban Bridge proved that Zhang Fei was the most bad ass "fighter" of the time. In one of the movie adaptations, Zhang Fei made one of Cao Cao's men bleed just by shouting.
Just watch "Red Cliff" m8. It's an evening well spent, and the various characters are clearly differentiated. Also, a unit of cavalry gets scared off by a tortoise.
5:50 Sun Jian's oldest son and then youngest son inherited control of the Sun clan, not his "elder brother" and "most junior brother... how could you get that wrong?
Good job on your videos. You always make complicated history insightfull and easy to understand. Dont worry about those linguistic know it alls. They probably forgot how diverse Chinese pronunciation can be in different areas and in different times.
I can't watch this. Seriously, this is the WORST pronunciation I've ever heard. How the hell do you get "Tao Tao" from "Cao Cao"?! It's "tSao tSao", the T is largely silent.
Three kings ruled in China. Three kings, each dreaming of ruling all under heaven. Three kings who rallied their armies for battle. The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Check out these informative articles from the Ancient History Encyclopedia for more reading!
www.ancient.eu/article/1174/the-early-three-kingdoms-period/
www.ancient.eu/Han_Dynasty/
www.ancient.eu/Cao_Cao/
Extra Credits I love this history Channel
@@spaceteams1493 me too
That's pretty true for Chinese history of empires
@@thegamerodin767 "Chinese History in Nutshell"
Except they weren’t kingdoms, they were dynasties.
♪ China is Whole again~
♪ Then it Broke again~
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and the pronounciation is broken again
How's China?
@@fireaza...broken
🎶 Nun nuh nuh, nuh
I've always associated Cao's Wei as Blue, Sun's Wu as Red, and Liu's Shu as Green from dynasty warrior.
So weird seeing the colors changed.
My thoughts exactly, hahaha.
Same!
SAME
It's been confusing me the entire series so far.
Shit check out the game Kessen 2, I played that before dynasty warriors lol
Lu Bei: I’m so awesome that I became Lu Bu in part 1
Tsao Tsao: Hold my Tao Tao
Liu Bei*
Cao Cao*
Louie Base *
Sal Salisbury steak*
Ok This actual question, what was the pronunciation of Cao Cao, in ancient Chinese (during Han Dynasty) Modern Chinese is Tsao, but what about ancient? Maybe it's Tao?
@@frinkls5347 in chinese, the c of C-ao is like tch (in watch), the closest pronunciation for a Westerner that i hear is Chow (in Chow-der) or Tch-ao
or this vid as reference, i dont find Tsao pronunciation accurate at all, too much emphasis on the s part
@@3mKay Or just use the Hanyu Pinyin: Chao Chao
Sun Quan and his brother were not brothers of Jian, they were his sons
Thank You!
Exactly. Played too much Dynasty Warriors to ignore that. Also Pronunciations in this vid were kinda annoying. And colors all got switched form dynasty to (I assume) three kingdoms total war
@@karmenion No from the looks of the game they just decided to switch the colors for their own reasons.
@@karmenion Looks like is DW is wrong. Cause other sources mark them like here.
That honestly threw me so much, that with the pronunciation I wasn't sure who was being talked about for a bit. Plus, don't go glossing over The Little Conquerer please.
One additional note, and this is real.
Zhang Fei during the escape, didn't just burn the bridge down. He destroyed the bridge and yelled at the incoming Cao's cavalry forces and yelled ''I am Zhang Fei! Fight me to death!"
No one came out forth and Zhang Fei was able to escape.
This is ACTUAL history written by the Cao's historians.
A REAL BADASS RIGHT THERE.
Theres barely any real historical accounts of three kingdoms besides the book so i doubt “cao caos” historians wrote anything that we can use today or there’d be alot more information that they’d provide apart from that goofy ass scene you just portrayed. If this were the case nobody could say most of TK was a myth/fictional book which they certainly do understandably because there’s almost no real evidence of literally any of this happening besides Yellow Turbans the only arguable sources that survived were from Cheng Yu, Yu Jin, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian nothing about Cao Cao having historians its a huge story mixed with myth and history so who knows what really even happened if it even happened nothing is confirmed at all besides the accounts we know are true. (Not from the book made 1000 years later)
if one part of the story is a myth who knows what else was fabricated it almost discredits the entire series of events who knows they could’ve even had completely different names.
0:39 "And Cao being a practical man, knew the indomitable general was more valuable dead than alive."
I think you've got that the wrong way round, mate.
yea, he got it mess up.
Yea this episode feels kinda sloppy and rushed....
@@nidejo4821 Just like the game it's an advert for
@@MrSticklife Eh, I wouldn't say that. The game is probably one of the better Total War games.
Unless he hoped he would die in battle....
So many people are getting on EC's backs for pronunciation even though there's a strong chance that many of the complainers themselves don't know how to pronounce the names properly. I know it's hard to listen to the pronunciations, but at least Chinese history is being covered more on UA-cam and the west in general. I've seen so many people on Total War forums say they already hate the new Three Kingdoms game because they're not interested in Chinese history and that's such a shame. This channel has always been a good starting off point to delve deeper into history of all the countries they've covered and I'm glad for it. I for one never would have even thought of Polynesian or Iranian history before I saw the series on this channel.
9:04
Did you... Did you just reference the horse sinking in quicksand from a never-ending story?
Evil!!!
*cries*
Poor Artax and Atreyu :-(
One of the saddest scenes in cinematic history.
That angered me.
*SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT MOVIE WAS THIS?!?!?!?!?! I REMEMBER THIS MOMENT OF DESPAIR!!!*
Sun Ce is Sun Jian's eldest son, not his elder brother.
thanks to Dynasty warrior that made their face too young.
Time to get a sponsorship from Duolingo or at the very least input the Chinese Characters into Google Translate and let the robot speak
Oof😂😂
Truly you are being unfair! How is one to do such a horribly complex task which only those of the brightest mind can achieve?
personally, I recommend pimsleur, extremely effective in learning conversational skills.
Duolingo actually has NO speech lessons in Mandarin.
And we'd need something between Classical Chinese and Middle Chinese anyway for 2nd and 3rd century pronunciation. Compounded by likely to vary between the different regions of China.
After watching this episode, I immediately order "General Tso's Chicken"
Lol
@Henry Sun In China real Kung Pao is made with dog.
Don't you General To
@@Psychol-Snooper wow, u r so humorous, never seen such a interesting person like u before,bravo.hahaha(poker face)
@@Psychol-Snooper i will appreciate if u NEVER EVER eat meat before
The Battle of "Guan"du
One of the reasons why "Guan" Yu, become "Guan" Gong :)
Well, only in RoTK.
Wen Chou in particular was in reality killed in an ambush.
isn't guan yu become guan gong when he spare cao cao in huarong
The two guans are not the same，关for guanyu,官for guandu.
@@Abigdummy4life Yan Liang getting beheaded one on one in reality, made Guan Yu into a legend. So yes, the Guan Du battle made the name for Guan Yu.
@@KasumiRINA oh, nvm yeah I forgot about that.
I kept hearing “Yuran” as “your aunt.”
My mind kept trying to figure out if this was a new type of “yo’ mama” joke.
Deborah L. “For your aunts heavy cavalry”
Damn...
I absolutely love the way it's presented, makes it a lot more dramatic and enjoyable, and I don't really care if you mispronounce the names, but the POV of the story is very much centered on Liu Bei as the good guy, which is understandable if your main source is the Romance of the Three Kingdoms but it has to be said that pretty much all three warlords used the same dirty tricks. Liu Bei had chronic betrayal disorder, Cao Cao buried enemy soldiers alive and Sun Quan also did some messed up stuff with the hill tribes. Cao Cao is not the "evil dark lord" we portray him to be.
One king to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.
Ash durub durbatuluk ugh burzumishi krimpatul.
"They taking hobbits to Isengard .. gard .. gard .. gard .. gard .."
@@Caradepato you mean 'Ash durub durbatuluk agh burzum ishi krimpatul.'
@@joshuakostyushko Depends on what mode you are using, and what transliteration. Its usually transcribed as burzumishi or burzum-ishi, but i've seen burzum ishi as well.
My edition of the book says burzum-ishi
That shit with the burning fleet was one of the best levels in the Dynasty Warrior games
You know, when the framerate doesn't shit itself
Red Cliff?
Especially when you manage to safe your closest allies and thus get the opportunity to win the battle as Cao Cao, leading to conquering all China and SLAUGHTERING every major character. Those hypothetical stars were the best feature of the story mode in DW8
Chibi is the best, except in 9
Sun Jian was the father of Sun Ce and Sun Quan and not their brother. 5:40
When you know how people normally pronounce these names isn't right, but you try so hard you end up pronouncing them even more wrong than you would otherwise.
I know he wasn't involved in this battle or conflict, but... it's... it's Lu Bu!
And boo hoo,
Lu Bu,
was executed.
@CommandoDude -proceeds to R1 Lu Bu into submission-
Hu Lao Gate. The battle that solidify Lu Bu as a fearsome enemy from my childhood Dynasty Warrior games.
@@sammym2511 oMg sPoiLeR
Everybody gangsta until Lu Bu's theme starts playing
The pronunciation makes my ears bleed
It’s pronounced Tsao-Tsao. Not Cow-Cow and definitely not Tao-Tao
_"This land is in need of Cao Pi…"_
The video's almost unwatchable purely because of the name mispronunciation.
Seriously EC, just watch an episode or two of War of the Three Kingdoms on UA-cam and save me from this auditory torture.
Tell that to Dynasty Warriors uno through cinco. My ears still cry.
@@shadowxgaming4247
Man, at least Early DW's butchering is somewhat nostalgic and campy. EC's mispronunciation is just disappointing.
You know how to fix this? Real easy, actually. EC, time to learn mandarin or my finger will linger near the subscribed button
It's a great video but tough to follow along with the pronunciations. Seems like they are using a mix of wade giles and pinyin.
Exactly. It's especially jarring to hear every single U pronounced as /əɹ/. U is a vowel, dammit.
I mean yea
But
Thats what captions are for dude, ya can't fault somebody for not being able to pronounce a language they can't speak
They don't speak the language, just turn on your captions or make your own appropriately pronounced video
Technically, the c's in Cao Cao are mainly pronounced with a combo of "ts" and "ch".
Also, Zhuge Liang was a beast civil administrator. Strategist....? Er....so and so.
Also, Cao Cao was already spending so much time trying to claim the North. Even though Jing was handed to him by Liu Cong on a silver platter, he still needed to crush Liu Bei and Sun Quan in a single swoop after being away from Xuchang for so long.
Logistician. On battlefield, Zhuge was legendary with logistics and delivering supplies to the army. They tend to be overlooked, as if only warriors and strategists matter.
@@KasumiRINA laughs in zhao yun the true greatest general he had.
its prononced zhu ge lang
The butchered names are hilarious and cringey at the same time.
I know, right
Tao Tao is better than cow cow
Better than an akward work around
Not hilarious at all. Just infuriating and distracting.
Poor pronunciation of Chinese is not helped by bad Western spelling choices. At least when you're using Roman letters to spell Japanese words you get the proper phonetics sound.
For example in chinese Tao is pronounced Dao, why do we use a t instead of a d I have no idea.
So my favorite part about the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is the idea that "Long united must divide, long divided must unite," when you kinda have to ignore the short life of the Jin dynasty compared to the Han, and the fact that following the fall of the Jin, there was more than 200 years of disunity reaching a 16 kingdoms period at one point.
The 'long divided, must unite; long united must divide' came from the first sentence Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel based on this history.
分 久 必 合 合 久 必 分
divide long must combine, combine long must divide
It is so amazing that English in fact did captured that core idea of that sentences :D
3:10 - ah, yes, the superior siege engine, launching 90kg projectiles over 300 metres! ❤
9:05 How dare you?! Don't take me back there; I'm not ready to see that again.
*DO YOU KNOW WHAT MOVIE WAS THIS FROM? PLS RESPOND!*
@@alphaomegaprime3923 Neverending Story
0:50 Pika, what did you eat?!?!
BAG'O DICKS
Ash
Well, that would certainly explain the laser eyes.
OH NO, I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK.
Oversimplified
At least at 7:17 he didn’t use the dramatic representation in which Zhangfei breaks the bridge and hold off the enemies by a single roar.
Yuan Shao vs Cao Cao
The battle when the prideful warriors Yan Liang and Wen Chou figured out how Guan Yu's honor was too much for them.
@Tiger Dragon racist hahaha
Extra History cavalry horse plushies when? This art style makes them always look so cute going to war. XD
Guan Yu, not Guan Yur, i think you're using Beijing accent in the wrong place for names.
Jung Sa And Cao Cao is pronounced “Tsao Tsao” not “Tao Tao”.
Wow it’s almost like he’s not a native Chinese speaker guys
Almost like they do days of research usually
Shain 3333 it’s almost like he was doing research and found the pronunciation from another English speaker who also does not do know the language
Akabeurjub the problem isn't mispronunciation, I know people would still complain if they use the common Koei mispronunciation, but at least the common Koei mispronunciation makes sense for an English speaker. This pronunciation doesn't make sense intuitively from looking at either Pinyin or Wade-Giles AND it's not accurate. Worst of both worlds.
George is a genius! The river fight is basically blackwater bay!
The same tactics were used in several critical naval battles throughout history.
I was really invested. Why there is no part 3? :(
I'm curious, is there any evidence of a link between the Three Kingdoms Period, the Crisis of the Third Century, and the fall of the Parthian Empire? They all happened right around the same time, so I'm wondering if there were some climatic conditions common across all of them that could have aggravated internal issues.
The Three kingdoms period began with a bad harvest which led to the yellow turbans. Maybe climate led to bad harvests further west as well
@@thagamerzzzthe thing is the rebellion wasn’t just from 1 bad harvest it was from decades of oppression and bad management
it's not TAO TAO, but TSAO TSAO
Indonesian, malaysian, singaporean
potatao, potsaotao
COW COW!
Atleast say Cow-cow so people know you're romanizing the name lol
@@fireemblemaddict128 Now we just need fan service... Cow Cow in a moo moo!
Love you videos! But just one of a few mispronounces:
“Sun” is pronounced “Soon” not “Swen” and “Quan” is pronounced “Chuan” not “Tran”
Actually 'Sun' is not often spoken as 'soon' but indeed 'Sue-in' (rapidly).
Just as 云 sounds closer to 'you-in' not 'yun' despite the PinYin indicating otherwise.
or 军 is said as 'jew-win'. A sort of ghost second vowel creating a soft diphthong in the us of 'un' finals.
I love the extra visual puns this episode, bonus points to the artists
Pls make more extra History i love them and they have taught me so much . So thank you and have a good day
There are 281 of them. Is that not enough for you?
These things take time to make dude. Do you think they just spawn them out of the aether? They are going to keep making more no need to badger them to make more.
Joogle Young (Zhuge Liang) is the most impressive mispronunciation yet.
Didn't get there yet, but imo Zooge Leeang would be the worst I can image.
Extra History please improve your pronunciation of Chinese Names! (not trying to be rude, but please do!)
Learn the basics of making youtube videos. They already made all or most of them, and won't be able to address the issue until the Lies video. Did you think these were recorded like five minutes before they posted them?
Derek Skelton Yeah, but they can keep non-cringey pronunciation in mind for their next series on Chinese history.
Derek Skelton That’s going to be one long ass lie video for all the facts they’ve messed up just in these two videos alone.
2nd and 3rd century Chinese wasn't spoken identical to Mandarin. And varied between parts of China.
cow cow😂
I have loved your content for years
But the way you're pronouncing these names is making me physically ill oh god please stop!!
"TheNoobofHearts" is a surprising name for an expert Ancient Chinese historian and linguist.
@@cometmoon4485 Im starting to think its not actually his given name.
@@cometmoon4485 Or maybe he's chinese?
GY: I Challenge YOU!!
Wen Chou: What!? Wait Wait
GY: FOR HONOR!! -- DECAPITATE --
XD
For YAN LIANG!!!!
You should split the Battle of Guandu and Red Cliff into 2 videos. There are so many stories to tell between these 2 battles. Moreover, you did not even mention Zhou Yu, the true hero of Red Cliff, he was the commander of the alliance and he defeated Cao Cao in every single engagement during the Red Cliff campaign
I don't know how much of that is actually in the Records as opposed to the Romance.
I laughed out loud at “different North” 🤣🤣🤣
Seems like a very short series for the Three Kingdom Periods, honestly to me it seems like you're really rushing through it, the Opium war was longer
I'm Chinese and I have no problem with the mispronunciation. I think we should just appreciate that they're covering Chinese history instead of bitching about the slightest errors.
Yeah, im chinese too
Chinese here as well.
The only thing that I am a little concerned about is whether this depiction comes from actual historical records regarding the Three Kingdoms period, or if EH is using the narrative depicted in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
Considering how he narrate Zhuge Liang as the greatest strategist, I am under the impression they are drawing from the novel, as Zhuge's intellect historically stems from his knowledge on government administration more than his military genius which is lacking compared to his godlike plans depicted in the novel.
@@macrossMX I completely understand if you're concerned with historical accuracy, I just wish people would stop attacking them for the slightest mispronunciations.
@Lee Ruan the han chinese have been around for abt 3000 years, i am han chinese and can speak chinese, i think i can call myself chinese
Nothing is more fun than watching Extra History try to pronounce Chinese names
I love this channel, and this era of history (though this is clearly telling the story from the Romance, not real history), but my god the butchery of the names is PAINFUL
Is there going to be more this set?
I'd really love to hear a release of that ending theme
❤️❤️❤️ Zhuge Liang is such an interesting person to follow. Like he is a master strategist which after binge watching Extra History strategy is everything and decides who lives, dies, and frequently escapes.
Yes just started to read the book and this is amazing
More please! Cover the whole Three Kingdoms!
I used to be an ancient chinese general, until I took an arrow to the face.
Xiahou Dun would disagree . . .
@@OuterRing What's the matter? Someone stole your sweet bun?
@@jackielinde7568 Cao Cao would angrily agree
@@OuterRing He took an arrow to his eye, that's different
@@cheesechiu Isn't the eye kind of in the face?
Damn the Three Kingdoms era is full of Badasses! Thanks for these awesome videos
Why do you pronounce 'Cao' as 'Tao?'
General Tso's Chicken?
General Tso is an entirely American dish lightly modeled from Cantonese influence.
The 'ts' is the same pronunciation as the Chinese 'c' however.
I think you've definitely pronounced "Yuan" as "urine" ...
"Now, the junior brother - *Swan Train* ruled."
“Swen Tran” “Joogal Yang”
I winced a little.
I really like that ending theme. I hope ya'll release that soon
Extra History please improve your pronunciation of Chinese Names...
Its not *his* fault jeez
For me, as asian that's great ..
I mean it's count as unexpected "joke", also it's not his fault dude :)
+morrocoball takeover
No, but I can pronounce every name in english, because learning how certain characters sound takes no more than a minute.
Legitimately considering this game because of you guys. Good job
how to misspronaunce every name in a video
rude
@@evasmojang I mean, Petko's not really wrong though
Yeah...I wince everytime....
They are aware. They just can't really change the videos after they have been posted. You guys are screaming into a void. Hope that's making you happy
Love this new art style
But hey! Less messy than the Sengoku Jidai
Only slightly...
wait...how?, this thing was backstab central
Battle of the Chang Ban Bridge proved that Zhang Fei was the most bad ass "fighter" of the time. In one of the movie adaptations, Zhang Fei made one of Cao Cao's men bleed just by shouting.
Suj jiang was sun ces and sun quans father, not brother.
Calvin Lippert sun Quan had another brother but he was offed as well
@@mitchellphillips9166 sure but they said that sun jiang was the brother to sun ce and sun quan, of which he was not
5:55 I actually thought he gonna say "Took an arrow to the knee" xD
Damn, i can't remember so many names 😂
Grumbles about the sheer number of ius ‘s in Roman history and the ridiculous number of European lords in medieval historu
@CXVII 117 R wat
CXVII 117 R I can just flood China with opium again you know
The fact they're all pronounced horribly incorrectly doesn't help the matter.
Just watch "Red Cliff" m8. It's an evening well spent, and the various characters are clearly differentiated. Also, a unit of cavalry gets scared off by a tortoise.
Guan Yu flying through the air majestically is the most beautiful sight I gave every witnessed
5:50 Sun Jian's oldest son and then youngest son inherited control of the Sun clan, not his "elder brother" and "most junior brother... how could you get that wrong?
I love extra history. This is the best part of every week.
4:15 Thanos for Guan'Du confirmed
Where's the rest of this story? I can only find 2 parts
I'm Chinese and can confirm name pronunciation was savagely butchered in this one.
HAhahahaha!!! Yeah i know!
Hey extra credits, have you heard of the new dlcs, yellow turbans, 8 princes, mandate of Heaven, and a world betrayed
LOVING THIS THREE KINGDOMS extra history, but I think the correct pronunciation of Cao Cao it's Zhao Zhao, not Tao Tao...
It's actually Tsao Tsao.
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 well my point is...that sounds more like an S and not like the T
Good job on your videos. You always make complicated history insightfull and easy to understand. Dont worry about those linguistic know it alls. They probably forgot how diverse Chinese pronunciation can be in different areas and in different times.
I gotta say. You really need to improve your pronunciation of the names
3:11 Cao used the greatest siege weapon of all.
Seriously, you're only misprouncing the name so badly because you're trying not to, it's quite painful
I got a limited knowledge, but it's amazing to see what I can still get out of this - the summaries glossed over a lot, it seems.
I can't watch this.
Seriously, this is the WORST pronunciation I've ever heard.
How the hell do you get "Tao Tao" from "Cao Cao"?! It's "tSao tSao", the T is largely silent.
You have to expect this, getting in a fit over pronunciation is idiotic, don’t be a bitch
I love extra history!!
10:34
The inner Dynasty Warriors fanboy in me cries in shame seeing that wrong color coding
Yeah, all 3 were wrong D:
If I remember correctly the three kingdom Saga ends really anticlimactically
The Three Kingdoms period was like game of thrones but real, cooler and Chinese.
A Song of Ice and Fire is a Doctor Suss book compared to this ! x)
Will you be covering the rest of the events of the three kingdoms war?
Is there a EH jellybean horse plushie yet?
I love the art of this series
never click so fast
This is more than Guandu, this also covers Chi Bi. Essentially we have gone halfway of the Three Kingdoms era in two episodes
ZHANG FEI OF YAN CAN DRINK AND FIGHT FOREVER
I love how all the warlords were to busy fighting themselves that they didn’t expand the Han dynasty’s territory all
More like Extra eehhhhh kind of History?
Mythical history kind of is... :)
I've heard of the red cliffs before but having all the story that came before it made it infinitely better love this channel!
Ciao Ciao Extra Credits Yuran Shao about history?!
No, it's General Tso's Chicken history?!
@@InspectHistory ok since I didn't know how to pronounce that name i want to ask if you understood the joke?
yo what happened to the third to fifth videos in this series?
I can't seem to find them anywhere
Zhuge liang is not even strategist.