IBM中國大裁員!雄霸一時IT神企隕落!從進入中國開始 細數IBM的興衰!《蕭若元:蕭氏新聞台》2024-08-26

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @edmanco
    @edmanco 2 місяці тому +20

    1988年 入職IBM, 辦公室在剛剛建好 "太古廣場", 大陸政府和企業 以經有購買 IBM 個人電腦!

  • @simonleung2130
    @simonleung2130 2 місяці тому +7

    IBM 投資咗很多在quantum computers 的研究,很重的負擔呀。
    1992 年好似週街都係PC, workstations. 黃金裝机都係萬多有交易。

  • @johnng261
    @johnng261 2 місяці тому +11

    IBM dominated the computer industry until 1985. It's manufacturing was operating 24 hours nonstop with 3 working shifts. It was the best company to work for. Retirees in early days can collect over 90% of their annual salaries. It had a country club in Pokeepsise NY that offered free golf, tennis, swimming, among others to employees. Unfortunately the CEOs were business people with marketing backgrounds and not technologist, eventually leading the company to downfalls.

    • @lukeli1
      @lukeli1 2 місяці тому +1

      I worked for them 2014 to 2018. So sad to see them declined.

    • @callmebackfriday2
      @callmebackfriday2 2 місяці тому +1

      The old IBM machines are built so solid that it has been running for years after years after years without shut down or repair. There no such thing as "bug" as compare to newer system. The older machine is built so good even now, lot of Fortune 500 Companies backend processing still using IBM and their languages until after Y2K when out sourcing started and the quality goes down. Another perfect example is Intel.

    • @kongchan437
      @kongchan437 2 місяці тому

      Yes i was at a different IBM country club many years ago. Back around the late 2000's i visited one of IBM data center which was the largest in USA at that time. Microsoft benefited from the Microsoft- IBM joint development of the OS/2 splitted away taking the graphical windows user interface into the early Microsoft Windows, and similarly Microsoft also got a good deal getting a big jump start learning from their joint effort with Sybase to from their SQLServer database...in terms of security one can argue the OS390-ZOS-LINUX is hackproof...never heard of anybody hacking or brother to or able to hack into it, nor any injection into its IMS DB/DC/TM / Fastpath family of databases. IBM was a pioneer in the SOA message sync/async queuing technology before other vendors like oracle i think, way before the more recent and popular Kafka etc came on the scene. Back in the late 2000's i have seen some DB2 manuals written in chinese that contained more in depth technical information than the English version. They have some good talent in China. Too bad they closed down the China lab.

  • @karenng6699
    @karenng6699 2 місяці тому +4

    謝謝蕭生分享👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Jason-vz2hi
    @Jason-vz2hi 2 місяці тому +5

    ❤❤

  • @andrewchan5688
    @andrewchan5688 Місяць тому

    MSFT 當年拒絕賣斷DOS 系統給IBM , 不是IBM 唔肯買而失個人電腦商機。

  • @MrSoulcool555
    @MrSoulcool555 2 місяці тому

    oracle系 known for database,唔係datacenter,對標amazon AWS redshift….

  • @Corpse4419
    @Corpse4419 2 місяці тому +8

    良心企業

  • @kki990055
    @kki990055 2 місяці тому +1

    好先進啊

  • @pky-tn8uu
    @pky-tn8uu 2 місяці тому +7

    路过支持

  • @yangmiemie8
    @yangmiemie8 2 місяці тому +3

    🙏👍

  • @yanchakhu5673
    @yanchakhu5673 2 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @jpcm_9654
    @jpcm_9654 2 місяці тому +1

    IBM has very difficult times. IBM consulting employ mostly Indian. Their quality is better than other Indian consulting companies (e.g. TCS, virtusa,...) However, they are expensive and IBM took large percentage from them. IBM Consulting is going downside. Some of the old IBM technologies are also too costly (e.g. IMS DB, ISAS DB2, Netezza,..) they are good products. However it is a competitive world. IBM is struggling.. We have been using IBM products for 1/2 of century. COBOL, COLT, Assembler, MSDB, DEDB, IMS DB, DB2, Netezza,....) We are seeing that IBM is losing their piece of the cake.

  • @kml9612
    @kml9612 2 місяці тому +3

    以前称: 万国商业机器公司

  • @MereDustOnEarth
    @MereDustOnEarth 2 місяці тому +13

    20 yrs ago I was coding cobol in mainframe, time flies

    • @callmebackfriday2
      @callmebackfriday2 2 місяці тому +3

      I am pretty sure your codes are still running today, same as my codes. so happy I am not alone. 🤣

    • @MereDustOnEarth
      @MereDustOnEarth 2 місяці тому +1

      @callmebackfriday2 I believe so, cuz I did it for a global bank, guess it is somewhat around 😅. Still remembering those days decipher the packed decimal data, it was tough but fun

    • @MereDustOnEarth
      @MereDustOnEarth 2 місяці тому +1

      @callmebackfriday2 but cobol developer is still a great demand here in Kuala Lumpur, great pay cuz now is a super niche skill & knowledge, not many people wanna do it nowadays

    • @callmebackfriday2
      @callmebackfriday2 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MereDustOnEarth Thanks bring back for all the memory. Remember Compile code in debug mode and go through the Debugger? 😁

    • @callmebackfriday2
      @callmebackfriday2 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MereDustOnEarth Yes. Totally agreed. I have been training offshore teams in India, Philippines and Ireland for many years and they don't quite get it at the beginning. Ireland team has the best quality in term of work and learn fast and they don't lie when project is late. India has the most failed project because they claimed it is done and they did not test their codes, when they do, they do it in Production. LOL Guess what, after all these outsource team got the knowledge, they resign and go to other companies because of high demand and Paid. What a waste of time !

  • @kglam1378
    @kglam1378 2 місяці тому

    點解唔提OS2 同dos+windows 大㦸

  • @jayching6298
    @jayching6298 2 місяці тому

    IBM 將PC/laptop 生意賣咗比聯想?(唔記得那間中國公司)之後比HP用平價laptop 加強大support 打死咗。

  • @darren654
    @darren654 2 місяці тому

    Support

  • @samwang5831
    @samwang5831 2 місяці тому

    一年緩衝是一年離職通知, 最高可以拿到 N+15! 超級慷概

  • @normantsul9790
    @normantsul9790 2 місяці тому +2

    Time and tide wait for no man (or in case of IBM - time and ride wait for no hero)
    我以前是IBM的用戶,mainframe 的年代,沒有電腦部主管可以不用IBM,
    他們的主業是大企業:銀行、航空公司、保險公司、政府部門等。
    每個行業,IBM都有相應的 enterprise solution。無論是軟件或硬件,統統都又IBM負責。這是IBM的優點。不是買幾部 pc那麼簡單。

  • @charling2429
    @charling2429 2 місяці тому

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @kkhc1068
    @kkhc1068 2 місяці тому +6

    IBM 都係做外國銀行金融客,美金定價!中國沒有大公司用IBM ,又沒有外國大客在中國。 一早知道遲早退出中國!

    • @moming8
      @moming8 2 місяці тому

      中國去IOE (I= IBM) 不給生意IBM, 把人家趕絕, 那只好走人

  • @冇眼睇
    @冇眼睇 2 місяці тому +2

    一人一個經典廠機品牌
    IBM

  • @gcklo
    @gcklo 2 місяці тому

    蕭生有點不準確。94年時IBM已差不多完全推出普通PC市場,有launch的話可能是Thinkpad手提電腦,不是傳統Desktop PC。和Msft,Intel的恩怨情仇是八十年代初的事情

  • @lawrencelee500
    @lawrencelee500 2 місяці тому +2

    IBM被HAL 打低?

  • @cooliousa
    @cooliousa 2 місяці тому +2

    IBM 班在港職員好幫派! 去過一次佢哋Annual Dinner! 又話潮州幫又話什麼什麼幫!

  • @chancheung9388
    @chancheung9388 2 місяці тому +1

    IBM developed first open system PC in 1981 in Boca Raton, Florida. I was working in 1980 for Siemens on R&D of Telephone Switching System across the street of IBM Boca Campus. Now IBM is gone from Boca.

  • @opuspchen
    @opuspchen 2 місяці тому +1

    I had been using IBM PC since 1983, so the information in this video is incorrect.

    • @cnwong5942
      @cnwong5942 Місяць тому

      后期都是联想贴牌IBM的pc

  • @kobeblue3986
    @kobeblue3986 2 місяці тому +12

    跟中國人攪親 都會遲早死直 😂

    • @smd3720
      @smd3720 2 місяці тому

      又关中国事?😂

    • @alexli2023
      @alexli2023 2 місяці тому

      @@smd3720唔通關你事呀

  • @jackyng2699
    @jackyng2699 2 місяці тому

    大灣區同你三吾色七益你???

  • @patrickyuen3838
    @patrickyuen3838 2 місяці тому

    近日來台灣一線科技公司爆出「大規模裁員」,裁撤多部門,員工上班一半失業了。對此,員工證實,每人資遣費300萬。

  • @petercheng1651
    @petercheng1651 2 місяці тому

  • @susannayeu4471
    @susannayeu4471 2 місяці тому

    👍👍