I feel like once an individual has realized/lived some of the info in your video you begin to understand you don’t actually have any enemies. I’ve always been of a mind that people can make an enemy of me but I don’t have to make one of them. Even before I ever took the Bible seriously and really read it…I always felt the true enemy is within all of us. Our enemies are not flesh and blood. Now rivalry on the other hand…friendly competition. Without resentment. I cherish this more than anything and I seek to make long time friends of my rivals. Iron sharpens Iron.
This idea really gave me something to think about. I never realized a couple co-workers that I felt a strong disdain for are actually exactly why I worked so hard and got to where I'm at in my job. I worked my tail off for years to spite them, but the reality is I did it out of a form of competition. While I still dislike them, I now realize I do respect them in a sense that they drive me to succeed above them. Great video.
Unless it is part of your life goal, one can said it is a strategy deployed by the third party arbiter/umpire, in this case your employer, to extract the most value out of you and from your co-workers. Not that it is bad, but it can empowered that arbiter / umpire to exercise control over you under the guise of "nobility or ubermensch" for his/her own nefarious means - see Hobbes Games'' In this instance, deploying Nietzsche as the sole philosophy is misguided. He had failed to distinguish between "Red Ocean" vs "Blue Ocean". The later relies on collaboration and creativity strategy to enlarge the resource pie - think Maritime power of the Athenian, while the former relies on competition and conflict management strategy to enlarge the resource pie - think Continental Power of the Spartan . Nietzsche philosophy is just a rehash of of the later camp. Siding one strategy over the other is also not real. It should not be so. We should not overfit. Nor we should underfit. One should adopt the appropriate strategy and by extension the philosophy to "adapt" to the current resource constraint unlocked by the technology achievement of the day for the preservation of the self / human civilization. Else Nietzsche philosophy is no different to the Christianity he had criticized. He is just a different side of the same coin such that just like the Pope and the Papacy uses Christianity to command their slave doctrine over their masses for their own end, adopting Nietzsche philosophy also means a third party arbiter can exploit that chivalry and nobility for his/her own means .
Many jobs I have worked at, it's not how hard you work, It's who you know. The harder I work & the more I do, the more responsibility I have and the less others have. Good for you that you found a place that doesn't behave like this! I have been told many times that I'm too important at my current area to be promoted at many different jobs. It's always a 💩 show when I leave though 😂
@@raymond_sycamore no I have too many already and when one steps away another steps up... I'm in NYC being tortured in voucher housing and my nephew was just murdered in voucher housing after a 2 year tour in Ukraine fighting for the foreign legion. He had combat PTSD and his killer was released I'm wondering if there was another way to deal with him, other than killing him
@@raymond_sycamore I'm trying but no one wants to take the voucher and now living with voucher holders, I understand why I'm living with addicts, crazy people, aged out orphans, single Mom's and illegal immigrants
Thank you for an amazing video. The end, which speaks of apathy, reminds of a Bible passage. Revelation 3:15-16 New International Version 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. Apathy is a great soul-killer.
I think you meant 'rival' not 'enemy'. I do not regret my petty hatred of an enemy and how much I can make them hate living. Only stupid people and the weak love their enemies because they have no choice, they lack intellect and might.
In my experience the line between admiration and hatred is really just a matter of personal strategic values, as opposed to some notion of emotional extremes. Anger, and spite is merely entropic excess if not also accompanied by a certain flavor of love and devotion, as applied by the rational devotee. I abide by the idea that if you understand your enemy, it is impossible to hate them. Though perhaps I am different than others in that I pursue victory alone for victories sake. Really the virtues professed here speak to a certain sense of discovery that only a good fight can produce. I do not see any actual strategic benefit gained from enmity that cannot also be gained from the best of friendships. After all, if you can't fight with your friends are they even friends at all? Or are they merely opportunists? I would not mistake enmity for rivalry, and I would not mistake friendship for the acquiescence of a coward. Though Machiavellianism is a potent strategy it will never reach the same height as a kingmaker, as it necessarily requires a stronger actor which to subvert, and once none exists will turn to subverting its own base of power.
In a friend one should have one's best enemy. You should be closest to him with your heart when you resist him. - Friedrich Nietzsche A friend can fill a similar role but you would need to choose your friend wisely. I was trying to make this concept applicable in a broad sense (maybe too broad).
Hey Machiavellian’s. Do you rec any books on the left vs right brain that discusses both the cog sci and spirituality. I haven’t read Iain McGilchrist’s The Master and His Emissary yet. You think I should start there?
The Master and His Emissary is where I started. I don't know of any other authors that write about this subject besides Dr. McGilchrist. Right now I'm going through his latest book The Matter With Things; which I definitely recommend.
0:10 close goodness not love not truth not peace goodness all starts and stems from all that is not good is not good only one thing is good, that is good though it may not be good that only one thing is good a conundrumic paradox a paradoxical conundrum
A practiced motion elicits a rasp of steel, though the battlefield is far away. The path of the warrior is illuminated by the soft light of a candle, zealously guarded through wind, and foul weather. Why prepare for something distant? something mystical? The drink flows freely, food is cheap, and the women are easy.
I think you are missing something here. The reason why being friendly is encouraged is because the natural tendency of most people (in all cultures) is to be horrible to each other. There are certain people that need to be more adversarial, but it is a minority. It is the same reason why people are encouraged (in all societies I am aware of) not to physically assault each other under normal conditions.
There is no "natural tendency" to be horrible. Like everything else, behaviours come from the knowledge programmed into the human. It's the programming and culture, not anything Natural.
Yeah finding a worthy opponent is near impossible today. The person doesn't need to be a contemporary though. You could rise to the challenge that a great person of the past poses. Write a book in response to an argument or create art, or obtain a greater feat or accomplishment than someone else who may already be dead. Great Sherlock Holms reference. I loved the show with Benedict Cumberbatch.
"Welcome resistance, for this is where the will to power dwells "
Neitchze
I feel like once an individual has realized/lived some of the info in your video you begin to understand you don’t actually have any enemies. I’ve always been of a mind that people can make an enemy of me but I don’t have to make one of them. Even before I ever took the Bible seriously and really read it…I always felt the true enemy is within all of us. Our enemies are not flesh and blood.
Now rivalry on the other hand…friendly competition. Without resentment. I cherish this more than anything and I seek to make long time friends of my rivals. Iron sharpens Iron.
A pure simp 😂
Chad philosophy > Sigma philosophy
The greatest adversary is very often ourself. And so it should be. Yet, very few have the courage, fortitude or awareness to ever test that opponent.
These are my experiences in my lifetime pushing thru adverse conditions that came my way
This idea really gave me something to think about. I never realized a couple co-workers that I felt a strong disdain for are actually exactly why I worked so hard and got to where I'm at in my job. I worked my tail off for years to spite them, but the reality is I did it out of a form of competition. While I still dislike them, I now realize I do respect them in a sense that they drive me to succeed above them. Great video.
I think this is actually one reason why work-at-home rapidly became unpopular with employers after the lockdowns.
Unless it is part of your life goal, one can said it is a strategy deployed by the third party arbiter/umpire, in this case your employer, to extract the most value out of you and from your co-workers.
Not that it is bad, but it can empowered that arbiter / umpire to exercise control over you under the guise of "nobility or ubermensch" for his/her own nefarious means - see Hobbes Games''
In this instance, deploying Nietzsche as the sole philosophy is misguided. He had failed to distinguish between "Red Ocean" vs "Blue Ocean". The later relies on collaboration and creativity strategy to enlarge the resource pie - think Maritime power of the Athenian, while the former relies on competition and conflict management strategy to enlarge the resource pie - think Continental Power of the Spartan . Nietzsche philosophy is just a rehash of of the later camp.
Siding one strategy over the other is also not real. It should not be so. We should not overfit. Nor we should underfit. One should adopt the appropriate strategy and by extension the philosophy to "adapt" to the current resource constraint unlocked by the technology achievement of the day for the preservation of the self / human civilization.
Else Nietzsche philosophy is no different to the Christianity he had criticized. He is just a different side of the same coin such that just like the Pope and the Papacy uses Christianity to command their slave doctrine over their masses for their own end, adopting Nietzsche philosophy also means a third party arbiter can exploit that chivalry and nobility for his/her own means .
Duh
Many jobs I have worked at, it's not how hard you work, It's who you know. The harder I work & the more I do, the more responsibility I have and the less others have. Good for you that you found a place that doesn't behave like this! I have been told many times that I'm too important at my current area to be promoted at many different jobs. It's always a 💩 show when I leave though 😂
I believe you described a peer, a rival peer, not an enemy. Still quite a valuable share, thanks for the effort.
You may not be wrong, but the first thing that pops to mind is Holmes to Moriarty, not Skywalker to Solo.
Ah, finally, a truly Machiavellian video.
How old are you?
@@laraparks7018 I'm being serious. Why try to insult me? DO you want an enemy!?
@@raymond_sycamore no I have too many already and when one steps away another steps up... I'm in NYC being tortured in voucher housing and my nephew was just murdered in voucher housing after a 2 year tour in Ukraine fighting for the foreign legion.
He had combat PTSD and his killer was released
I'm wondering if there was another way to deal with him, other than killing him
@@laraparks7018 you know you can move, right?
@@raymond_sycamore I'm trying but no one wants to take the voucher and now living with voucher holders, I understand why
I'm living with addicts, crazy people, aged out orphans, single Mom's and illegal immigrants
We do, however have adversaries we *despise* ... they are known as komyoonists
I tried to find an adversary I could honor but they only prove me wrong and have no intelligence with petty jealousy 🤔
Nietzche did say in his “Evil” aphorism that jealousy was one of the antagonist forces, so…
But yea you would have to respect them though. I think that’s what your lacking for your enemies
@@Rally351 I would respect them if they intelligent wouldn't be little my intelligence I don't respect jealousy that is for women
Maybe you're not looking in the right places
@@chrisglover8700 Alan Watts speech puts sleep every night I can only dream of a man of such intellect or Sir Thomas Paine 🤔
This is excellent. Thank You
Thank you for an amazing video. The end, which speaks of apathy, reminds of a Bible passage.
Revelation 3:15-16
New International Version
15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
Apathy is a great soul-killer.
0:40 Just like in a peloton or a breakaway. When you're with your friends, you do better than when you're alone, good implied
I think you meant 'rival' not 'enemy'. I do not regret my petty hatred of an enemy and how much I can make them hate living. Only stupid people and the weak love their enemies because they have no choice, they lack intellect and might.
In my experience the line between admiration and hatred is really just a matter of personal strategic values, as opposed to some notion of emotional extremes. Anger, and spite is merely entropic excess if not also accompanied by a certain flavor of love and devotion, as applied by the rational devotee. I abide by the idea that if you understand your enemy, it is impossible to hate them. Though perhaps I am different than others in that I pursue victory alone for victories sake. Really the virtues professed here speak to a certain sense of discovery that only a good fight can produce. I do not see any actual strategic benefit gained from enmity that cannot also be gained from the best of friendships. After all, if you can't fight with your friends are they even friends at all? Or are they merely opportunists? I would not mistake enmity for rivalry, and I would not mistake friendship for the acquiescence of a coward.
Though Machiavellianism is a potent strategy it will never reach the same height as a kingmaker, as it necessarily requires a stronger actor which to subvert, and once none exists will turn to subverting its own base of power.
In a friend one should have one's best enemy. You should be closest to him with your heart when you resist him. - Friedrich Nietzsche
A friend can fill a similar role but you would need to choose your friend wisely. I was trying to make this concept applicable in a broad sense (maybe too broad).
@@TheMachiavellians Orient towards growth, and don't fall for the fog of war.
Thank you!!
Hey Machiavellian’s. Do you rec any books on the left vs right brain that discusses both the cog sci and spirituality. I haven’t read Iain McGilchrist’s The Master and His Emissary yet. You think I should start there?
The Master and His Emissary is where I started. I don't know of any other authors that write about this subject besides Dr. McGilchrist. Right now I'm going through his latest book The Matter With Things; which I definitely recommend.
@@TheMachiavellians Okay sounds good sir. Yeah-I just sampled both books on Kindle and they look interesting. Going to take a crack at em.
0:10 close
goodness
not love
not truth
not peace
goodness
all starts and stems from
all that is not good is not good
only one thing is good, that is good
though it may not be good that only one thing is good
a conundrumic paradox
a paradoxical conundrum
as above
so below
all is and isnt
the only way is goodness
¿every thing else falls in line
A practiced motion elicits a rasp of steel, though the battlefield is far away. The path of the warrior is illuminated by the soft light of a candle, zealously guarded through wind, and foul weather. Why prepare for something distant? something mystical? The drink flows freely, food is cheap, and the women are easy.
True 💯
LIFE IS ADVERSARIAL
so true
To a degree.
1:15 idc a disavow and seek disassociation with these rules and meters amd measures and right angles of justity
I think you are missing something here. The reason why being friendly is encouraged is because the natural tendency of most people (in all cultures) is to be horrible to each other. There are certain people that need to be more adversarial, but it is a minority. It is the same reason why people are encouraged (in all societies I am aware of) not to physically assault each other under normal conditions.
There is no "natural tendency" to be horrible. Like everything else, behaviours come from the knowledge programmed into the human. It's the programming and culture, not anything Natural.
0:25 amicable is not the goal
goodness is the goal
good relations sre encouraging and amicable, when good to be
"An armed society, is a polite society"- The universe
Men of great intellect need a Moriarty archetype to oppose them. I'll never find it in this oasis idiocy called society 😢
Yeah finding a worthy opponent is near impossible today. The person doesn't need to be a contemporary though. You could rise to the challenge that a great person of the past poses. Write a book in response to an argument or create art, or obtain a greater feat or accomplishment than someone else who may already be dead.
Great Sherlock Holms reference. I loved the show with Benedict Cumberbatch.
The Prestige Movie
enemy is the wrong word i think rival is the best way to describe what he is saying.
0:55 cant just fight the bag
bro you got me laughing lol
Partly true...anyone who is competition is your enemy. You are trying to get ride of your competition and he you. This is bullshite
And that is petty.
0:15 simple is complex
chaos is order unknown
pregnancy is not preg nan cy
it is pre gn an cy
gn osis
a gn ostic
re co gn ize
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