1948: New LOCOMOTIVE TESTING Facility | Newsreel | Retro Transport | BBC Archive
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- BBC Television Newsreel visits Rugby, where a new locomotive testing station for British Railways is being opened by Transport Minister, Alfred Barnes.
The first job at the new facility is to undertake speed trials on the Pacific class A4 steam engine, Sir Nigel Gresley.
Clip taken from BBC Television Newsreel, originally broadcast on BBC Television, Friday 22 October, 1948.
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For those who don't know, the engine in this video, No. 60007, 'Sir Nigel Gresley' is one of the six preserved A4 class steam locomotives and is still in steam as of September, 2024.
do you know if the building and testing station have survived? its beautiful.
sadly, no it's not there anymore. It was demolished in 1984, excatly 40 years ago, but its final test took place in 1965 when it was closed in 1970. @@Cam.Klingon
In steam? IN IT? How is it IN steam? No train that is steam, has ever become not steam. So what are you talking about?
@@OregonCrow It's just a term people use when a steam engine is in operation.
@@OregonCrow He means its still in use and runs regularly.
Not just a static exhibit
As if from another planet. And the loco has outlasted everyone in this film!
And hasn't aged either.
"And our international reputation for locomotive design and building, already second to none, will grow even higher " . And it never grew again...
…and even then it was second to some!
@@markiliff Even coming last would be better than no longer trying
Because the British government destroyed it.
I think this is due to the decision the Govt made to keep our thinner track as so much of it was built and laid up north by the time they had to make a decision it would cost too much to replace, stopping us having larger better designed trains.
Can you imagine the noise in there !!!! 😮 magic
definitely louder than a race yoshimura end can on a gsxr1000!
@@fidelcatsro6948 or an Akroprovic 😉
Awesome video, oh how I miss riding on a steam train!
Just wonderful! Thank you.
This facility was inspired by the testing facility built by the Pennsylvania Railroad in Altoona, PA, built in 1913. That facility, like this one, was demolished in the 1960s, during the Penn Central era.
Depressing to think how low we've sunk these glory days
How miserable! The people in this video would certainly be impressed with achievements of our time
And you cannot possibly think that the people of the LATE 40s weren't especially familiar with international tragedy?
Ear defenders? What's them?
Great video! I assume there was a large set of extractor fans in the roof?
No tender! The fireman must have had a jolly big bag of coal on the footplate. 😀
the water level in the boiler:
1948, the year the railways were nationalised. Unfortunately, that lead to nearly fifty years of poor political decisions and under-investment that took us on to partial and full privatisation in the mid-nineties. Will the forthcoming GBR be the panacea some politicians promise it to be? Only time will tell, though I have my doubts. ☹
HS2 was doomed from the start.
@@carlbirtles4518 - What's that got to do with the price of fish?
Diesel engines and Electric motors entered the chat and obliterated the Steam powered technology soon after the opening ceremony
10000 was released to traffic just months earlier. The LMR wanted a large fleet of them immediately but the BRB said no.
Not so. Steam engines continued to be built in the UK for another 12 years, and were not eliminated until 20 years after the testing plant opened.
0:16 This LNER BR Gresley A4 Pacific No.60007 Or LNER No.4498 Sir Nigel Gresley Is A Bit Like Mallard. Thanks Mate. X🇦🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧
Same locomotive, different number depending if it was in LNER or BR days. And yes, it's the same class of locomotive as Mallard.
I wonder how fast they ran her up to ?
How great the BBC used to be. 😢
How exactly was 60007 running without it's tender as they provide the loco with coal and water.
"Graph Paper." Now you KNOW they were serious.....📝. Actually,it was the Pennsylvania Railroad in the US that had come up with the Locomotive Dyno/Rolling Road idea first.
G'day from Newcastle NSW Australia, i had the pleasure of being invited to a cab ride on this amazing locomotive back in 1985 when she was based at Carnforth, i was invited by Julian Riddick the owner before past on in the late 80/early 90s. 4498 Garter Blue is better than the BR blue, but that's my opinion.
Wow!! A rolling road for steam loco's, thats epic!! I wonder what the recorded horsepower was?!
The beginning of the end British Railways and nationalisation...
Please does anyone know who provided the voice over in this film? Seems very familiar. Thanks.
A rather young Richard Baker I think.
Soooo this was the world’s first dyno test haha.
Thanks to a greedy selfish overpopulated world, we won’t ever see the likes of such gorgeous engineering again. Once zero carbon hits that’s it. Fortunately I’ve been on enough steam locomotives and will continue on PC with RailRoader, Train Sim World 2/3/4 and Trainz. Thank god I can still live the fantasy
How come the locomotive has no tender?
it does. you can see it at the beginning of the video. But for the testing, the loco is uncoupled from the tender, and coupled to the back the of the testing rig which has access to coal and water. There are very similar testing rigs for model locomotives today.
Why o why dont people speak like this anymore. Yes mr Thornton binston Warner 😊😊Excellent .
Few things more pompous and risible than petty bureaucrats prancing around in ridiculous costumes (the mayor here)🙄😅
Great locomotive testing platforms I gotta say - Brits were the master of this transportation for hundreds of years! 👏🏻👏🏻
What exactly does this expensive-looking setup do that a conventional dyno and instrument car won't do?
No idea ! And there was a dynamometer at Swindon works too - Dad said he watched a GWR 'Castle' class being tested on it in the late 1940s.
"our international reputation will grow ....." Not with the obsolete technology of steam, hopelessly fuel inefficient and maintenance intensive compared to diesel it won't.
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First twit?
Steam was so bad, what a dumb creature we are.
Did the job at the time, still less polluting than petrol and diesel cars.
The thing we call modern society would't exist without steam...
@@Frserthegreenengine
Err, no!! Coal is a filthy burning fuel and produces sulphur and other nasty gases. Also, steam engines are less than 10% efficient so produce far more pollution per horse power than internal combustion engines. Until diesel engines reached a high enough specific output though, steam was the only viable power source for rail locos.
Yeah! How dumb and stupid of them to harness steam power, kick-start the industrial revolution and give birth to society as we know it! Bunch of thickos! You are way smarter.
The steam part is not so bad, just very inefficient, but burning coal is the worst thing environmentally there is.
More importantly from a railroad point of view is that steam locos are very labour intensive - burning coal is very dirty and steam locos needed more hours having their internals cleaned by teams of men than they spend hauling passengers or freight.
Until the development of diesel electric locos, most railway companies, especially government owned ones, designed their locos in-house and either built them in-house or contracted the construction out. They could do that because steam technology is simple to engineer. Diesel engine design is highly specialised, and only major manufacturers could handle it.
This led railways to hang on to steam because their in-house engineers could handle it. And if those engineers were honest, and told management to buy diesel, they would loose their jobs.
never forget what the communists have taken from us.
Which communists and when?
@@robinfoster7597 Nationalization killed competition and innovation,.....................as it does.
We've never had communists ruling our country.
@@robinfoster7597 Tony Blair, Obama, Gordon Brown, Arch Bishop, David Cameron, the Pope and now Keir Starmer. The list is large. And before you say "they aren't communist", yes they are, go research their ideology, it's hard to find, as communists go by the fabian approach, (Labour's gathering is even called the Fabian Society, look it up), the art of changing things an inch at a time for communist revolutionary goals. They are surreptitious, sneaky, and lie about their ideology in order to win.
Like the communists who nationalised the railways, you mean?
Male, Pale, Stale.
What?
Misandrist, Racist, Ageist.
@@oylumo It's a racist and sexist slogan the left uses to infer a lack of diversity and inclusion... i.e. Basically too many white men. The stale part doesn't because this was peak inervation.