The Outback is in a class of its own. It's design is a relic on the 80s and 90s mid size station wagons with a little more clearance and awd added. And that's what makes it special.
Ou are wrong on your design point. It is not a relic from the 80s or 90s. It is completely designed for this era. Our ‘11 outback was light years ahead of the so called 80-90s design so this can only be light years above ours.
@@Subie-Driver I think the Outback has more in common with station wagons than other crossovers. More sedan than the Rav4 but more capable and flexible than a Camry. They are a good compromise. The 80s and early 90s actually did have cars that had a similar niche to the new Outback. The Toyota ae95 Corrolla wagon(smaller but it was taller than some in it's class and had awd) and the AMC Eagle wagon.
That's why Toyota should bring the Crown - some competition can't hurt. Also, the cargo I carry is better matched to a shorter vertical height of storage, but more depth. I just don't pile stuff up 40" high, so I'd *much* rather have the greater square footage than greater volume when that volume is all about how tall the rear cargo area is.
The Outback is great. Uber popular where I live in the northeast. They are great in snow and I love that they have a goldilocks ground clearance height. Not so high that you have to climb up into it like taller SUVs, but not so low you have to climb down when you take a seat.
This is one of the features I loved about it above all others. Climbing into the higher SUVs is not a good thing. As I get older my back gets worse and there's no way I want to be climbing up. The outback has perfect height and comfortable seating.
After watching a series of your videos and testing on different compact SUV, I ended up getting Outback Touring XT (I guess it's Premier XT in Canada). The biggest reason is the comfort and smoothness of driving on OB is much better than CRV and RAV4. Another reason is the 2.4 Turbo makes a huge difference than base engine and outperforms the other competitors in similar price range. I did struggle with CRV Hybrid Sport Touring vs OB Touring XT. Tbh, I really love the exterior design of CRV, which is definitely more cutting edge and futuristic than many other similar SUVs (KIA looks even better though) but instead Subaru has its classic 'Subaru stereotyping' look, which is rugged and old fashioned (to me, it's even worse for that additional front head cladding). But finally one thing pulled my trigger to get OB is the whole package. What Subaru delivers on this flagship vehicle is full of sincerity - they try to give you the best features as they can from safety system, the AI, the leather, the ventilated /heated seats, the audio speakers, to some details to make you feel they care. On contrary, CRV looks more indifferent just as Honda know you will buy it anyway, even for their top trim, the overall features are just still marginal less. If I would pay similar price to get a top trim of them, I will pay for the heart. Again, the turbo really matters and OB can easily win simply because of that.
I am a first time Subaru buyer. Just bought a 2021 Outback limited and so far I love it. The height getting in and out of it is fantastic, fits my bike with the seats folded down and the integrated roof rails for my kayak is awesome. Comfortable and quiet ride and I love this car so far. ❤️
After waiting for more than a year for a toyota rav4 hybrid, i decided to test drive one after watching this review. I think this vehicle is overall a great package for a Canadian. Good capabilities in winter, tons of interior spaces and cargo area. Ordered an Onyx trim in Blue like the one in the review. Thanks for your informative review!
After having four Subarus including our current two, I really think that the base 2.0 l engine on the crosstrek and the 2.5 l engine in everything else gives them a great balance between very adequate power and fuel mileage. Our ‘18 crosstrek limited with the 2L engine gets between 6.5 and 7.0 l/100km on the highway…driving at 105 kmh. Our ‘22 forester with the 2.5l gets between 7.0 - 7.2 l/100km on the highway doing the same speed. Seems like everyone wants every vehicle to be rockets on wheels. I started driving Subaru because of their practicality, fuel mileage, and real-time (symmetrical) AWD. They still have that and I hope they don’t lose sight of that.
Highway : between 5.5 and 6.2 on a 11 hour drive @ speeds over 110 km/h and peaks over 130 km/h (middle lane) for about 2-4 hours. Car was fully loaded as we were on a vacation trip. City: 7-9 l/100 km as we live outside of a major city but have stop signs at almost every corner.
Just bought the 2023 outback XT Limited- smooth ride and real quiet inside. Turbo has lots of power, tons of tech inside. Gonna take camping and have sleeping bags inside = no more tents
From watching your videos you helped us narrow it down - we decided on the Outback and got a smokin’ deal on the Premier XT from Otto’s in Ottawa - Pat was FANTASTIC. Didn’t expect to be signing a deal on a vehicle today, but wow…excited! You guys are fun to watch and very informative. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work. TnT
It’s the absence of physical buttons. That screen is slow, it hesitates; it has soooo much going for it but that screen is a miss and they REFUSE to put buttons back.
TOTALLY AGREE. I currently own a 2020 Onyx XT and I love the car with the exception of the head unit. It reboots in the middle of driving. Sometimes even the safety system reboots with it. It's so annoying that it really has me looking for an alternative for my next vehicle.
I was very worried about the lack of buttons and screen coming from a 2015. But after a couple of outings, the screen my 2022 Touring has been more intuitive than I expected. It has a hand "home" button that I don't think was present on the 2020 & 21 models.
What a great duo. I remember when Andrea first started she was a little nervous but she's fantastic now. 10/10 for both of you and the channel. Thank you.
Don't care what other people say. I love my 2021 Outback. Super glad I got her. She is not my everyday driver. But she is my road trip ride. Just took her out for my 1st car camping trip. Worked out great.
Your videos are the best. I've been researching cars for 2 weeks, and I always first look for your videos. If you don't do videos on a car, I'm suspicious of the car being no good. Your fan from Toronto.
Get the turbo. More power is always good when you need it. These Outback's are very competent vehicles offroad as well, much more than people expect. As a stationwagon (man, are these rare now) with great ground clearance then it borders on one of the best family allrounders you can get.
@@VanGogh1999 Subaru was selling the 6 cylinder 3.6r for more than a decade. They recently replaced it with the XT engine. The 3.6r was more reliable than the 4 cylinder 2.5.
Outback is a significant car that created this segment. Its not only a-class-of-its-own, it owns this segment. I have read somewhere that Outback owns 95% of the wagon segment. They will have even more market share when VW decided to drop Golf All Trek for Mk8 generation, while A6 allroad, V90 Cross Country and E-Class All Terrain are much more expensive.
In Europe there still is the Skoda Octavia scout 4wd, the Volkswagen Passat Alltrack 4wd, Volvo V60 4wd, Volkwagen golf 8 stationwagon AWD, and Audi, Mercedes and BMW also have stationwagons with 4wd
@@vedder10 Nothing, really. The Volvo V60 or V90 Cross Country, Mercedes E-Class wagon, and Audi A4 and A6 Allroad are really the only comparable true wagons to the Outback and they all cost significantly more money. The Outback is literally the only approachably priced wagon left in the North American market.
I've only ever owned Toyota's until last year. Bought a 2024 Subaru Onyx XT. Love it. Drives great. Then a week later bought a new/used work car. A 2020 Subaru Legacy non turbo. Also a great car. Especially where I live now we get a lot of snow. So the all wheel drive is nice.
Ordered a 2022 Outback XT Premier last February, and received it in September...Yep seven months wait! Already has over 17 000kms on it after six months driving. Things I love: 1. Attractive looking vehicle. 2. Plenty of acceleration from the 2.5L Turbo. 3. Great in snow, especially with snow tires. 4. Comfortable leather interior with lots of room, front and back. 5. Loads of trunk space. 6. Great sound system. Things I hate: 1. Terrible on the highway in high winds. (One of the worst I've ever driven, in fact.) 2. Noisy engine that takes far too long to idle back down after cold start. 3. Far too much wind noise at highway speed. 4. Fuel economy not great (Averaging 12L per 100 Kms). 5. Poor navigation system. 6. Touch screen is slow to react. 7. Questionable quality (Already replaced driver's side seat vent, and there is a disconcerting noise somewhere in the suspension.) 8. Some of the "safety" features are very annoying, especially the Driver Monitoring System that drags you back to the center of the lane whenever you get too close to the roadside. Also, waay too many warning beeps!!! I like my Outback, but would I buy one again? No.
I have a live hate relationship with Subaru. Brand is too focussed on the eye sight ( hate it) don't need touch screen ( our foster still has buttons for heated seats ) I have always liked the Outback. Problem for me now is the Premium pricing now for 2023 for a XT.
Took 2023 for a test drive. Loved the interior. It was so comfy, didn't have to stretch to reach the touch screen, large touchscreen, centre console extends forward enough to put my arm on comfortably. I wanted this vehicle so much. But I absolutely refuse to buy a CVT. Still too many problems with them in general. I worry that my vehicle will not last. Toyota's the only one with the proper CVT which isn't even the same as the kind of outback has. But I'm not paying Toyota's dealership prices which are jacked up outrageously.
Thank you, you folks are the best! So all things considered, looks, interior, fuel economy, safety etc, Outback Touring vs Honda CR V Hybrid Limited, vs Venza Limited...which would you buy/recommend?
@@rodrigoguzmanalvarez5238 yes, but it’s a bigger engine too. If you drive the turbo engine gently it’s ok, but very difficult to not push down on the gas pedal 😂 But the ascent was better on so many levels…
We went from 2015 2.5L OB (Gen 5) to 2022 2.5L OB Touring (Gen 6). Enough power for us, have even towed a 2,000 boat over Cascade Mt passes with it. Very satisfied with our Subaru in terms of mileage (~ 30 on highway, with up to a 600 mile range. We were concerned about adapting to their often maligned Gen 6 touch screen controls but adapted pretty quick to it, but still prefer more knobs and buttons (70 yr olds). Also the Gen 6 front seats feel a little more restricted than those in Gen 5. The longer cargo area and more car like handling are why we got an Outback instead of the much praised 2022 Hyundai Tucson -- that and the fact they we could get VIP pricing on the OB vs $4K above sticker on the Tucson (in WA state). We are very happy with Outback. The improved eye sight and digital rear view camera are nice upgrades for the 23 model, extra cladding not so much IMO.
I found the ride and seats more comfortable in Gen 6. I had a loaner for a day and it rode so smoothly I had to check the tire pressure to see if they were uninflated. They were not, they were actually over inflated!
Hi, I have a 2023 OB 2.5 . When you pulled the boat over the mountain pass was the Outback really struggling? How were the rpms? I want to pull a small aluminum fishing boat maybe about 1800 lbs but on mostly flat roads in Wisconsin.
I own the 22 Onyx XT and I'm very happy w the ride and power. city driving stay at home dad suburbs route every day barely hits 16 mpg so underperfroming to their estimates for sure. Hwy mpg seems to be right what they claim, maybe even better ( on recent trip to Vegas I had cruise set to 80-85 almost the whole way and was still avg ing 25 mpg's, great for that speed)
My son got his 2023 Outback wilderness last month.He loves the car but #1 complaint is lack of buttons. He finds infotainment screen is annoying. I’m glad I occasionally ride with him; it has confirmed I won’t part with my 2018 Outback 3.6R Touring until it falls apart.
I just found your channel and am really enjoying it! I’m starting to research a replacement for our 2019 CRV AWD Touring. We’ve had it for 5 years and it’s been great. Summertime we get ~35mpg and winter ~33mpg. All mixed driving. I was disappointed to learn that if we want the same trim level Honda is forcing a hybrid on us. With the performance of the old car and the gas mileage I don’t see any reason to look at hybrids. So the search is on for replacement from possibly another manufacturer. We have no interest in Kia or Hyundai. I’ll be checking out your videos for info. Keep up the great work.
My Outback is the last of a 3.6L 6-cylinder engine, I love the smoothness and torque it gives out. However, I wish it had a hybrid engine during the energy crisis of late.
Has the sound-insulating front door glass been removed on the 2023 XT trims? Not seeing this feature mentioned in any official materials for 2023 as compared to 2022. If feature removed, any increased noise within the cabin for 2023?
Subaru really stepped up for the latest gen of Outback. We are really happy with our 2023 Limited OB. The Mazda CX50 was on our radar as well and a good friend of ours purchased one. The CX50 def has the exterior looks, but the 2023 OB blows the CX50 away in terms of interior. I really feel the new OB is class leading in terms of features, comfort, safety, and overall capability. Even the new Honda CR-V falls short in terms of features.
Great review from you Guys!!! #1 Hate the black wheels ? Can you get Aluminium or chrome Wheels ?? #2 is the start -stop button easy to turn off ? or do you have to go thru the Screen and go thru a lot of steps ? each time to turn it off !!! Thanks !!
Perhaps the perfect Canadian vehicle. Its not perfect any at one thing… but collectively … it is a near perfect recipe. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
Good morning, I live in Italy, I bought a Subaru Outback year 2023 with 136 kw. I need the use and maintenance manual (also in pdf) do you know how I can download it? Thanks
I have the 2022 Outback XT and I only have 2 complaints. No TPMS and no remote start from the key fob (must use the app). Other than these two things it's a great car.
Great video. Nice and detailed. You are the very best being thorough for Canada and the USA. One thing you should add to your videos is the maintenance and cost each require. Cost does not have to be exact. In Canada they have like an A,B,C, D schedule. I own a crosstrek on it's next inspection it will have 68,000 km. That C inspection is just over $1000.00 and does not cover any parts like cabin filters etc. It does cover the oil change. My guess between non turbo and turbo there is a cost difference for maintenance since the engines are so different. Maybe that change is only later in it's life. This is the first time I have owned a crosstrek ( Outdoors) and it seems to be also the most expensive for maintenance I ever owned. I have had a few AWD /4WD makes.
I'm a first time viewer and have subscribed. I'm considering the Subaru Outback but also really like the Mazda CX-5. Thanks for the review and your valuable insights and feedback. God bless,
As the owner of a 2018 Subaru Outback 3.6R I’m not a big fan of four-cylinder engines although the turbo is quicker the 6. Just something about the sound of a 4 cylinder. I had a 2016 with the 4 cylinder so I know. I do not like all the added cladding and will have to think twice about it when I go to replace my 2018 later this year. Great review as always!
As an outback and legacy owner Subaru needs to get it together woth fuel efficiency. At best my legacy 3.6 gets 26mpg and my 2.5 outback gets 28. Bt they average like 23 and 24 respectively. You have all these other suvs and even the sienna doing 30 mpg plus. Tucson, sportage, highlander, sorento, santa fe, shoot even the cx 9 with a turbo 2.5 gets about the same real world fuel economy as the outback 2.4 turbo and its a much bigger suv.
@@katherinedvm quite honestly if they dont come out with something competative that is gasoline based, meaning not ev only, im probably going to a different brand. Mazda is looking nice when we get to 2024
Who knows when Subaru will completely hybrid. What I do know is, Mazda is building all new powertrains that includes hybrid tech. If a miniature company like Mazda can do it with a limited budget, then Subaru have no excuse.
Can you make a video comparing the non-turbo Subaru Forester to the non-turbo Subaru Outback? It would help people trying to decide between the two. All the Videos on You Tube makes comments between the Outback Turbo and Non-turbo Forester. That isn’t a fair assessment. I think both have the same engine? I enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Went to the dealer today and found out that the fin camera and digital mirror doesn't exist in Canada (saw another review that refers to the fin camera so the dealer may have been confused?). Anyway this surprised me given that this review is Canadian. The spec sheets make no mention of the fin camera (EDIT: found it in the spec sheet finally. Called "Smart mirror" and only the Premier XT (top of the line Canadian model) has it. )
First of all, I would like to congratulate you on your work because it really facilitates decision-making for the purchase of a vehicle. I have been driving a Subaru for more than ten years and a Forester for four. I now intend to purchase an Outback. I still have two questions. I would like to know if, due to a different calibration of the suspension of the Wildernes model, you have noticed a difference in this one when driving on pavement compared to the XT model. Finally, did you notice a different fuel consumption between the two models? Thanks 🙏
This is great because I had been wondering about the difference between the turbo and non-turbo engines. I test drove one recently and knew more about the car than the salesperson thanks to this video!
I have loved Subaru’s having owned 3 over the years. I wanted an EV for my next car and looked at the Solterra the BEV from Subaru but it didn’t have the battery, features, charging and range. So I left Subaru and got a EV6 and couldn’t be happier
My sister is getting my 2019 Crosstrek (she just got her permit!), and although I am heartbroken to lose my favorite car I have ever driven, I am excited to be looking at the Outbacks and other midsized SUVs
I have the '22 Onyx XT in the US. I bought it for the turbo because I live in Colorado and it needs the power from the turbo to pull the mountains. Love the car.
The base model of the 2023 Outback does NOT come with heated seats or a heated steering wheel. The next step up Premium and above do. Also, the Base model has only manually adjusted seats.
@@80srockerable I had V.I.P. program coupon being a new model supplier. I bought a premium for the price of a base model. Around $3500 of savings. The Subaru plant faxed the forms to the dealership.
You mentioned this is a Base model, then mentioned it was an Onyx. It looks like an Onyx, and the infotainment system is definitely not on the Base model. But great review, thank you.
Poor you guys forgot to get a coffees. 😆 Great review Andrea! I like this vehicle if only they add a panoramic roof and heated steering wheel. Cheers! ☕️☕️
How’s that CVT reliability wise for Subaru? CVT transmission for many brands particularly the Nissan is the source of many reliability issues in those vehicles.
The Outback is in a class of its own. It's design is a relic on the 80s and 90s mid size station wagons with a little more clearance and awd added. And that's what makes it special.
Now it is the same height as all of the SUVs but the packaging seems worse. The interior space vs the size of vehicle is not great.
Ou are wrong on your design point. It is not a relic from the 80s or 90s. It is completely designed for this era. Our ‘11 outback was light years ahead of the so called 80-90s design so this can only be light years above ours.
@@Subie-Driver I think the Outback has more in common with station wagons than other crossovers. More sedan than the Rav4 but more capable and flexible than a Camry. They are a good compromise.
The 80s and early 90s actually did have cars that had a similar niche to the new Outback. The Toyota ae95 Corrolla wagon(smaller but it was taller than some in it's class and had awd) and the AMC Eagle wagon.
@M So tell like you see it bud.
That's why Toyota should bring the Crown - some competition can't hurt. Also, the cargo I carry is better matched to a shorter vertical height of storage, but more depth. I just don't pile stuff up 40" high, so I'd *much* rather have the greater square footage than greater volume when that volume is all about how tall the rear cargo area is.
Best part: watching how terrified Zack is as Andrea accelerates 😅
The Outback is great. Uber popular where I live in the northeast. They are great in snow and I love that they have a goldilocks ground clearance height. Not so high that you have to climb up into it like taller SUVs, but not so low you have to climb down when you take a seat.
This is one of the features I loved about it above all others. Climbing into the higher SUVs is not a good thing. As I get older my back gets worse and there's no way I want to be climbing up. The outback has perfect height and comfortable seating.
You guys are my go to reviewers. I really enjoy your videos. Thorough, to the point, and entertaining, as well. Good job!
After watching a series of your videos and testing on different compact SUV, I ended up getting Outback Touring XT (I guess it's Premier XT in Canada). The biggest reason is the comfort and smoothness of driving on OB is much better than CRV and RAV4. Another reason is the 2.4 Turbo makes a huge difference than base engine and outperforms the other competitors in similar price range. I did struggle with CRV Hybrid Sport Touring vs OB Touring XT. Tbh, I really love the exterior design of CRV, which is definitely more cutting edge and futuristic than many other similar SUVs (KIA looks even better though) but instead Subaru has its classic 'Subaru stereotyping' look, which is rugged and old fashioned (to me, it's even worse for that additional front head cladding). But finally one thing pulled my trigger to get OB is the whole package. What Subaru delivers on this flagship vehicle is full of sincerity - they try to give you the best features as they can from safety system, the AI, the leather, the ventilated /heated seats, the audio speakers, to some details to make you feel they care. On contrary, CRV looks more indifferent just as Honda know you will buy it anyway, even for their top trim, the overall features are just still marginal less. If I would pay similar price to get a top trim of them, I will pay for the heart. Again, the turbo really matters and OB can easily win simply because of that.
A CD player??? For a 2023 model??? Hell yes! *takes out my mixed album playlist CD*
I am a first time Subaru buyer. Just bought a 2021 Outback limited and so far I love it. The height getting in and out of it is fantastic, fits my bike with the seats folded down and the integrated roof rails for my kayak is awesome. Comfortable and quiet ride and I love this car so far. ❤️
After waiting for more than a year for a toyota rav4 hybrid, i decided to test drive one after watching this review. I think this vehicle is overall a great package for a Canadian. Good capabilities in winter, tons of interior spaces and cargo area. Ordered an Onyx trim in Blue like the one in the review. Thanks for your informative review!
13:08 Correction: All trims do NOT get the refreshed front end. Only Wilderness trim stays with the '20-22 front fascia.
The Wilderness has the most character out of all of the trims. It sticks out in a good way.
The geyser blue in the Wilderness edition is beautiful. It was tempting but not worth the loss in mileage for me.
After having four Subarus including our current two, I really think that the base 2.0 l engine on the crosstrek and the 2.5 l engine in everything else gives them a great balance between very adequate power and fuel mileage. Our ‘18 crosstrek limited with the 2L engine gets between 6.5 and 7.0 l/100km on the highway…driving at 105 kmh. Our ‘22 forester with the 2.5l gets between 7.0 - 7.2 l/100km on the highway doing the same speed. Seems like everyone wants every vehicle to be rockets on wheels. I started driving Subaru because of their practicality, fuel mileage, and real-time (symmetrical) AWD. They still have that and I hope they don’t lose sight of that.
Subie's Special AWD won't mean much as the World is switching to electric...........Paul
@steve dueck PLEASE give your CITY FUEL ECONOMY
Highway : between 5.5 and 6.2 on a 11 hour drive @ speeds over 110 km/h and peaks over 130 km/h (middle lane) for about 2-4 hours. Car was fully loaded as we were on a vacation trip.
City: 7-9 l/100 km as we live outside of a major city but have stop signs at almost every corner.
Just bought the 2023 outback XT Limited- smooth ride and real quiet inside. Turbo has lots of power, tons of tech inside. Gonna take camping and have sleeping bags inside = no more tents
From watching your videos you helped us narrow it down - we decided on the Outback and got a smokin’ deal on the Premier XT from Otto’s in Ottawa - Pat was FANTASTIC. Didn’t expect to be signing a deal on a vehicle today, but wow…excited! You guys are fun to watch and very informative. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work. TnT
Excellent review as always guys. Your synergy is awesome. Here’s to 250k🎉
It’s the absence of physical buttons. That screen is slow, it hesitates; it has soooo much going for it but that screen is a miss and they REFUSE to put buttons back.
TOTALLY AGREE. I currently own a 2020 Onyx XT and I love the car with the exception of the head unit. It reboots in the middle of driving. Sometimes even the safety system reboots with it. It's so annoying that it really has me looking for an alternative for my next vehicle.
@Joe Do you have any reservations concerning the CVT?
This is the same screen my 22 WRX has, it's a huge improvement over the other screens. It doesn't lag or anything. Press a button and it happens
I was very worried about the lack of buttons and screen coming from a 2015. But after a couple of outings, the screen my 2022 Touring has been more intuitive than I expected. It has a hand "home" button that I don't think was present on the 2020 & 21 models.
You still have a mobile phone with buttons?
What a great duo. I remember when Andrea first started she was a little nervous but she's fantastic now. 10/10 for both of you and the channel. Thank you.
Don't care what other people say. I love my 2021 Outback. Super glad I got her. She is not my everyday driver. But she is my road trip ride. Just took her out for my 1st car camping trip. Worked out great.
Same here, bought a 2018 Outback Premium 2.5 brand new, kept in the garage till the weekend
What mpgs you seeing?
@@SyrupCanuck 26.7 is what My Subaru app is saying.
Your videos are the best. I've been researching cars for 2 weeks, and I always first look for your videos. If you don't do videos on a car, I'm suspicious of the car being no good. Your fan from Toronto.
Get the turbo. More power is always good when you need it. These Outback's are very competent vehicles offroad as well, much more than people expect. As a stationwagon (man, are these rare now) with great ground clearance then it borders on one of the best family allrounders you can get.
Turbos will be less reliable than the non turbo.
If u care about mileage don't get the turbo. Especially given the current gas prices and potential long term gas price estimates not looking good
Engine.
Getting a Turbo engines with a weak CVT is a disaster waiting to happen, why do you think Subaru is not selling a 6 cylinder
@@VanGogh1999 Subaru was selling the 6 cylinder 3.6r for more than a decade. They recently replaced it with the XT engine. The 3.6r was more reliable than the 4 cylinder 2.5.
Outback is a significant car that created this segment. Its not only a-class-of-its-own, it owns this segment. I have read somewhere that Outback owns 95% of the wagon segment. They will have even more market share when VW decided to drop Golf All Trek for Mk8 generation, while A6 allroad, V90 Cross Country and E-Class All Terrain are much more expensive.
I really don't know what vehicle can be viewed as an alternative. It's really in a class by itself.
In Europe there still is the Skoda Octavia scout 4wd, the Volkswagen Passat Alltrack 4wd, Volvo V60 4wd, Volkwagen golf 8 stationwagon AWD, and Audi, Mercedes and BMW also have stationwagons with 4wd
@@vedder10 Nothing, really. The Volvo V60 or V90 Cross Country, Mercedes E-Class wagon, and Audi A4 and A6 Allroad are really the only comparable true wagons to the Outback and they all cost significantly more money. The Outback is literally the only approachably priced wagon left in the North American market.
You can put a tent on the roof “when it’s not moving” 😆❤️
I've only ever owned Toyota's until last year. Bought a 2024 Subaru Onyx XT. Love it. Drives great. Then a week later bought a new/used work car. A 2020 Subaru Legacy non turbo. Also a great car. Especially where I live now we get a lot of snow. So the all wheel drive is nice.
Ordered a 23 Outback Premier XT for myself and a 2023 Forester Premier for the wife; can't wait to take delivery on my Outback in Jan!
Wow, that's awesome, congratulations! - Andrea
Just in time for the snow!
Ordered a 2022 Outback XT Premier last February, and received it in September...Yep seven months wait! Already has over 17 000kms on it after six months driving. Things I love: 1. Attractive looking vehicle. 2. Plenty of acceleration from the 2.5L Turbo. 3. Great in snow, especially with snow tires. 4. Comfortable leather interior with lots of room, front and back. 5. Loads of trunk space. 6. Great sound system. Things I hate: 1. Terrible on the highway in high winds. (One of the worst I've ever driven, in fact.) 2. Noisy engine that takes far too long to idle back down after cold start. 3. Far too much wind noise at highway speed. 4. Fuel economy not great (Averaging 12L per 100 Kms). 5. Poor navigation system. 6. Touch screen is slow to react. 7. Questionable quality (Already replaced driver's side seat vent, and there is a disconcerting noise somewhere in the suspension.) 8. Some of the "safety" features are very annoying, especially the Driver Monitoring System that drags you back to the center of the lane whenever you get too close to the roadside. Also, waay too many warning beeps!!! I like my Outback, but would I buy one again? No.
I have a live hate relationship with Subaru.
Brand is too focussed on the eye sight ( hate it) don't need touch screen ( our foster still has buttons for heated seats )
I have always liked the Outback.
Problem for me now is the Premium pricing now for 2023 for a XT.
I was looking at Outbacks at a Subaru dealership in Louisville. I sat in the driver's seat and wow talk about great lumbar support.
I bought a new one in 2018. Took a 2 week out west roadtrip, drove 4900 miles. Very comfortable
The 2023 wilderness doesn't get the exterior changes of all other trims. I own one, I can confirm 👍🏻
Nice to see a manufacturer that still offers a station wagon. That’s right , I said the word the word no manufacturer wants to hear!
I know at least 8 other manufacturers who make station wagons
Took 2023 for a test drive. Loved the interior. It was so comfy, didn't have to stretch to reach the touch screen, large touchscreen, centre console extends forward enough to put my arm on comfortably. I wanted this vehicle so much. But I absolutely refuse to buy a CVT. Still too many problems with them in general. I worry that my vehicle will not last. Toyota's the only one with the proper CVT which isn't even the same as the kind of outback has. But I'm not paying Toyota's dealership prices which are jacked up outrageously.
Love your videos !! A car reference on the market for all buyers or simply a car fan review watcher 🤣
I love my ascent , only thing I have a problem with is the eye sight when it’s raining hard it completely stops working.
I like the black wheels on the Onyx.
Great video guys I love my 21 Crosstrek my wife wants the Forester when it when she gets around to it
are they thinking hybrid for outbacks anytime soon
Outstanding review as always!
Thank you, you folks are the best! So all things considered, looks, interior, fuel economy, safety etc, Outback Touring vs Honda CR V Hybrid Limited, vs Venza Limited...which would you buy/recommend?
I totally agree with Zack’s likes and dislikes of the refreshed Outback.
Owned both an outback and ascent and loved them both. My current crosstrek is great, just SLOW 😢
Does your Ascent consumes considered more gasoline with the turbo than your outback?
@@rodrigoguzmanalvarez5238 yes, but it’s a bigger engine too. If you drive the turbo engine gently it’s ok, but very difficult to not push down on the gas pedal 😂
But the ascent was better on so many levels…
Very safe and they never break down!
Those Autumn Leaves 🍁 ❤. Great video, as usual. Thank you. Rad car.
Thank you, we appreciate the kind words.
We went from 2015 2.5L OB (Gen 5) to 2022 2.5L OB Touring (Gen 6). Enough power for us, have even towed a 2,000 boat over Cascade Mt passes with it. Very satisfied with our Subaru in terms of mileage (~ 30 on highway, with up to a 600 mile range. We were concerned about adapting to their often maligned Gen 6 touch screen controls but adapted pretty quick to it, but still prefer more knobs and buttons (70 yr olds). Also the Gen 6 front seats feel a little more restricted than those in Gen 5. The longer cargo area and more car like handling are why we got an Outback instead of the much praised 2022 Hyundai Tucson -- that and the fact they we could get VIP pricing on the OB vs $4K above sticker on the Tucson (in WA state). We are very happy with Outback.
The improved eye sight and digital rear view camera are nice upgrades for the 23 model, extra cladding not so much IMO.
I found the ride and seats more comfortable in Gen 6. I had a loaner for a day and it rode so smoothly I had to check the tire pressure to see if they were uninflated. They were not, they were actually over inflated!
Hi, I have a 2023 OB 2.5 . When you pulled the boat over the mountain pass was the Outback really struggling? How were the rpms? I want to pull a small aluminum fishing boat maybe about 1800 lbs but on mostly flat roads in Wisconsin.
I believe limited xt and touring xt also have acoustic side glass up front. Is Napa leather any better? Too bad there is no hybrid outback.
Hybrid is useless
Zack: I got a grab handle 🤣. Andrea driving ! 👍😎
I own the 22 Onyx XT and I'm very happy w the ride and power. city driving stay at home dad suburbs route every day barely hits 16 mpg so underperfroming to their estimates for sure. Hwy mpg seems to be right what they claim, maybe even better ( on recent trip to Vegas I had cruise set to 80-85 almost the whole way and was still avg ing 25 mpg's, great for that speed)
Thanks for such a professional review!
Will there ever be a hybrid or plug-in hybrid version of the outback?
No doubt there will
i know right?! i feel like Subaru is way behind where this is concerned
My son got his 2023 Outback wilderness last month.He loves the car but #1 complaint is lack of buttons. He finds infotainment screen is annoying. I’m glad I occasionally ride with him; it has confirmed I won’t part with my 2018 Outback 3.6R Touring until it falls apart.
I just found your channel and am really enjoying it! I’m starting to research a replacement for our 2019 CRV AWD Touring. We’ve had it for 5 years and it’s been great. Summertime we get ~35mpg and winter ~33mpg. All mixed driving. I was disappointed to learn that if we want the same trim level Honda is forcing a hybrid on us. With the performance of the old car and the gas mileage I don’t see any reason to look at hybrids. So the search is on for replacement from possibly another manufacturer. We have no interest in Kia or Hyundai. I’ll be checking out your videos for info. Keep up the great work.
Good review. This is going on The List. 😎
Glad you enjoyed the review, thank you!
My Outback is the last of a 3.6L 6-cylinder engine, I love the smoothness and torque it gives out. However, I wish it had a hybrid engine during the energy crisis of late.
Has the sound-insulating front door glass been removed on the 2023 XT trims? Not seeing this feature mentioned in any official materials for 2023 as compared to 2022. If feature removed, any increased noise within the cabin for 2023?
You really think they will make a new model louder?
@@ekimandersom4478 As a way to cut costs or deal with supply chain issues, yes I would.
Subaru really stepped up for the latest gen of Outback. We are really happy with our 2023 Limited OB. The Mazda CX50 was on our radar as well and a good friend of ours purchased one. The CX50 def has the exterior looks, but the 2023 OB blows the CX50 away in terms of interior. I really feel the new OB is class leading in terms of features, comfort, safety, and overall capability. Even the new Honda CR-V falls short in terms of features.
That cosmic blue looks really good, especially on the onyx
Just bought a 2023 Touring in Cosmic Blue. The color is Awesome.
what would you prefer if you would buy a car and could choose from audi A4 allroad or subaru outback?
Almost bought a 2023. No knobs for ventilation is a deal breaker for us. Taking the eyes off Colorado roads to find buttons is a bad idea.
Those knobs are gone since 2020
The 2018 was the last year with knobs....that what I have
Great review from you Guys!!! #1 Hate the black wheels ? Can you get Aluminium or chrome Wheels ?? #2 is the start -stop button easy to turn off ? or do you have to go thru the Screen and go thru a lot of steps ? each time to turn it off !!! Thanks !!
Yes, easy to shut off, but you must do each time you start the car
Perhaps the perfect Canadian vehicle. Its not perfect any at one thing… but collectively … it is a near perfect recipe. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
Good morning,
I live in Italy, I bought a Subaru Outback year 2023 with 136 kw.
I need the use and maintenance manual (also in pdf) do you know how I can download it?
Thanks
At 2:27 close the sun shade on the moon roof and wind noise will be significantly reduced.
I have the 2022 Outback XT and I only have 2 complaints. No TPMS and no remote start from the key fob (must use the app). Other than these two things it's a great car.
I have TPMS in my '22 Outback Limited XT.
Great video. Nice and detailed. You are the very best being thorough for Canada and the USA. One thing you should add to your videos is the maintenance and cost each require. Cost does not have to be exact. In Canada they have like an A,B,C, D schedule. I own a crosstrek on it's next inspection it will have 68,000 km. That C inspection is just over $1000.00 and does not cover any parts like cabin filters etc. It does cover the oil change. My guess between non turbo and turbo there is a cost difference for maintenance since the engines are so different. Maybe that change is only later in it's life. This is the first time I have owned a crosstrek ( Outdoors) and it seems to be also the most expensive for maintenance I ever owned. I have had a few AWD /4WD makes.
How does its ride and handling compare to the new CRV?
My son's 2004 CRV is a tank but Honda got passed up by Toyota and Subaru 10 years ago
I'm a first time viewer and have subscribed. I'm considering the Subaru Outback but also really like the Mazda CX-5. Thanks for the review and your valuable insights and feedback. God bless,
The OB has better seats, far better outward visibility, a very nice ride, and it's bigger.
Great review covering the complete lineup
An outstanding review of these 2 Outback models. Just as Subarus are hard to beat, so are your reviews. Thank you, Zach and Andrea! 👋
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
This is my next car....trading in my 2020 Kia Forte need better 4 wheel drive traction
As the owner of a 2018 Subaru Outback 3.6R I’m not a big fan of four-cylinder engines although the turbo is quicker the 6. Just something about the sound of a 4 cylinder. I had a 2016 with the 4 cylinder so I know. I do not like all the added cladding and will have to think twice about it when I go to replace my 2018 later this year. Great review as always!
Agree with you on the cladding. I have a 2016, and love the look of it. I disliked the 2020 redesign and dislike this refresh even more.
I had to check the name on this review to make sure that I hadn't written it! LOL!
As an outback and legacy owner Subaru needs to get it together woth fuel efficiency. At best my legacy 3.6 gets 26mpg and my 2.5 outback gets 28. Bt they average like 23 and 24 respectively. You have all these other suvs and even the sienna doing 30 mpg plus. Tucson, sportage, highlander, sorento, santa fe, shoot even the cx 9 with a turbo 2.5 gets about the same real world fuel economy as the outback 2.4 turbo and its a much bigger suv.
Yes! Why doesn’t Subaru have hybrids in bigger models?!?!
@@katherinedvm quite honestly if they dont come out with something competative that is gasoline based, meaning not ev only, im probably going to a different brand. Mazda is looking nice when we get to 2024
Who knows when Subaru will completely hybrid. What I do know is, Mazda is building all new powertrains that includes hybrid tech. If a miniature company like Mazda can do it with a limited budget, then Subaru have no excuse.
Can you make a video comparing the non-turbo Subaru Forester to the non-turbo Subaru Outback? It would help people trying to decide between the two. All the Videos on You Tube makes comments between the Outback Turbo and Non-turbo Forester. That isn’t a fair assessment. I think both have the same engine? I enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Sure, we can....I think we'll wait for the 2023 Forester first though, as there should be some changes coming for that model.
Dual mode works up to 40 kph but the Wilderness is at all speeds, not only at low speeds.
Nasty wheel cladding !!!!
But can you see the screen on sunny day? I have a 2017 and have always grumbled that I can't SEE the screen most of the time. The glare is awful.
Went to the dealer today and found out that the fin camera and digital mirror doesn't exist in Canada (saw another review that refers to the fin camera so the dealer may have been confused?). Anyway this surprised me given that this review is Canadian. The spec sheets make no mention of the fin camera (EDIT: found it in the spec sheet finally. Called "Smart mirror" and only the Premier XT (top of the line Canadian model) has it. )
I just wondering if you can put Metric system in, on the screen for your international audience
Yes they can.
Great review as always guys! Wondering how this compares with the CX50??
‘24 onyx includes heated steering wheel now.
And Harmon Kardon.
Awesome review guys… quick question - how was the cabin noise compared to rav4 or cr-v on highways ??
First of all, I would like to congratulate you on your work because it really facilitates decision-making for the purchase of a vehicle. I have been driving a Subaru for more than ten years and a Forester for four. I now intend to purchase an Outback. I still have two questions. I would like to know if, due to a different calibration of the suspension of the Wildernes model, you have noticed a difference in this one when driving on pavement compared to the XT model. Finally, did you notice a different fuel consumption between the two models? Thanks 🙏
This is great because I had been wondering about the difference between the turbo and non-turbo engines. I test drove one recently and knew more about the car than the salesperson thanks to this video!
Are the turn signals LED as well? Not clear if all exterior lighting is LED.
Nope
Can you drop by the cottage to ensure the doors are locked?
Hows the reliability of these turbo Outbacks? Is this a vehicle to buy to keep for 10+ years?
In 10 years fossil fuel will be gone
Not very good after 10 years...
I have loved Subaru’s having owned 3 over the years. I wanted an EV for my next car and looked at the Solterra the BEV from Subaru but it didn’t have the battery, features, charging and range. So I left Subaru and got a EV6 and couldn’t be happier
Why do you convert L/100kms to US MPG when your based in Canada?
Love my 2021 Outback XT. Great passing power when you need it.
What exactly does leather trimmed upholstery mean?
Part leather, part vinyl.
Subaru base models are still a very good standard. What percentage of your driving are you using full turbo power mode?
Never
My sister is getting my 2019 Crosstrek (she just got her permit!), and although I am heartbroken to lose my favorite car I have ever driven, I am excited to be looking at the Outbacks and other midsized SUVs
I have the '22 Onyx XT in the US. I bought it for the turbo because I live in Colorado and it needs the power from the turbo to pull the mountains. Love the car.
The base model of the 2023 Outback does NOT come with heated seats or a heated steering wheel. The next step up Premium and above do. Also, the Base model has only manually adjusted seats.
Canada and the US have different trims. In Canada, the heated seats are standard, US as you said, one up from the base model.
Europe all trims have heated front and back seats and powered seats
That's why got a premium.....heated seats
Premium is best value.
@@80srockerable I had V.I.P. program coupon being a new model supplier. I bought a premium for the price of a base model. Around $3500 of savings. The Subaru plant faxed the forms to the dealership.
Work is giving me this car, so I am just checking it out. I have a Tesla Model Y now, I am thinking it is quite a change lol
You mentioned this is a Base model, then mentioned it was an Onyx. It looks like an Onyx, and the infotainment system is definitely not on the Base model. But great review, thank you.
I wanted it when I traded in my Impreza a few months ago, but I refuse the dealer mark up nonsense and eventually went with a different brand
I’m looking to trade in my impreza in the next yr or two… what did you go with?
I Have the autback limited 2.5 2023 is great 👍.
How's the longevity and durability with the Subaru CVT? Turbocharged engines and CVTs can be a scary durability combo...
8 year warranty has that covered
they still have trouble with engine gaskets
Did Subaru address the head gasket issue ?
Like over 10 years ago
I bought the stick Zach! 2016 Outback 6 spd.
Well that's one! Collectable now.
Any word on the Baja coming out?ty
When will the forester get the turbo ? I like the height on the forester better.
Possibly 2025. The demand is certainly there!
I remember I almost back a 2020 but they still have problems with window noise in cabin I am hoping they finally fixed the problem
Don't have that problem with my '22.
Poor you guys forgot to get a coffees. 😆 Great review Andrea! I like this vehicle if only they add a panoramic roof and heated steering wheel. Cheers! ☕️☕️
Glad you enjoyed it, yes we missed our coffee. Canada gets a standard heated steering wheel but in the US it's limited to the trim you choose.
How’s that CVT reliability wise for Subaru? CVT transmission for many brands particularly the Nissan is the source of many reliability issues in those vehicles.
Subaru's CVT is superior to Nissan's CVT, or any other, for that matter.