Dude, me too, until I kept practicing. Now it actually sticks together well and I'm working on making it look pretty. But I think pretty is kinda overrated.
What's the difference between sodium and sodum... me? I dunno, but why muricans add the letter i to sodum (for example) but not to aluminum? It's so dumb...
The day I dreaded has come. I have finished watching every video on your channel in the 2 months since I discovered it. No more 'new' videos to watch. Your videos are the highlight of my day in my depressing life. I guess I will have to start from the beginning again. I have learned a lot even though I do not work with metals or machines. Now I know what tools other youtubers are using just by looking at them. I can even predict what they will do next or what tool they will use. I can just see it coming. I now know WHY they do what they do. This was because of you. Thank you for making such amazing, educating and entertaining videos. Although I do not get all your jokes, the ones I get are just perfect. It is an amazing feeling when I 'get' what you don't even say. Your humour is the right mix of expectation subversion and expectation subversion-subversion. I came for machining, I stayed for the humour. P.S.: Your comment section is a pleasure to read too.
@@ironworkerfxr7105 Shop Rule 2; Never turn your back on a welder. Shop Rule 3; Welders that wander around with a tape measure are NOT "On Break". Shop Rule 4; Don't look behind the welding curtain, you can't unsee it.
Why didn't you just taste it¿? Aluminum has an aluminummy taste.... Kind of bland but still good, but alloy mixes taste like a crisp clean river among the mountains as an upside down fairy, a tweaking fawn, a bare bear, a goose w/ horns and a homeless squirrel watches in the distance as you quench your thirst. Or that's just the hallucinations from severe metal poisoning.... Either way, you would have known as soon as you stopped seizing.
7075 is stronger in UTS terms than mild steels while still being way less dense, so it has its uses, just not as a weldable material. Unless many bike manufacturers lie about their materials (Which wouldn't surprise me at all to be honest, the industry seems to mostly be populated with designers and snake oil salesmen who think they're engineers) 7005 is weldable.
@@peglor OR do they use industrial welding options? There are larger/higher power requirements you can get in a commercial setting, that you cannot get in a home.
@@TechyBen The problem is that welding them with anything that relies on melting (like TIG) significantly weakens the aluminum, regardless of weld power. Friction Stir or another solid-state welding process could be used, but it's usually easier to machine these small bits out of a solid block.
Thanks for another excellent video, Tony! I wonder what alloy that motorcycle part was that you welded a while ago - it was also an 'unweldable' alloy, as I recall.
I think the difference between this material and the motorbike footpeg is this is a non-weldable alloy, and the footpeg is a non-weldable grade. The difference being that the grade is in fact possible to weld, though you lose some of the desirable characteristics of the grade (toughness, strength) but a non-weldable alloy means the composition of the metal rejects the metal supplied by the aluminum welding rod.
@@magicoddeffect Correct - UA-cam recommended the video, so I went back and watched it. Now I'm wondering how the footpegs are holding up. Might be a good follow up chat video. ua-cam.com/video/AhMil-ibUTY/v-deo.html
@@Ddabig40mac In the metallurgical world, 'grade' and 'alloy' are synonymous. What you describe is condition - hot-rolled, cold-worked, quenched and tempered, solution treated and aged, etc. Grade refers to an alloy specification, which usually includes a prescribed chemical composition. Welds are always susceptible to cracking due to a variety of factors like formation of brittle phases, grain boundary segregation, solidification shrinkage, and degradation of mechanical properties in the heat-affected zone. Certain grades of aluminium, including most 2000 and 7000 series alloys, are especially susceptible to liquation cracking as they exhibit a large solidification range (difference between liquidus and solidus temperatures) due to their chemical composition. This can be avoided to some extent by judicious choice of filler metal, but some alloys just cannot be fusion welded no matter what filler metal you use.
@@maknswarf3684 Damn. I'm sorry, man. It's not right.that employers can expose people to risk like that, let alone not compensate for the harm. Stay strong.
He no longer has it as he was borrowing it from his materials science prof and has been kicked out of the school for doing experiments using lab equipment without prior approval.
Applied Science was going to be my next suggestion. I'm pretty sure he has a working unit, I remember him using it on a glass jar full of powder, yttrium something I think.
Heck no, to many Tubalcain episodes to get out of the way. When I get certafried and find a way to refill the Argon, then I can really bust some chips on the Lathe walking the cup.
Yep but UA-cam just keeps "autoplaying" the same vids. Grinding hss tools and the "gears" vids I have seen way to man times. Sometimes I wake up in the morning singing "Maho, mahoman." It's horrible really, but I can't stop.
Lol I had a feeling it was going end up being some 7000 series alloy. I think a lot of the 7000 series alloys are used in machining operations because they tend to have exceptionally high hardness, harder than mild steel a lot of times. Most of them aren’t weldable by any conventional fusion arc welding methods though. This is the first time I’ve seen someone actually attempt it though. That was a pretty catastrophic reaction to welding lmao!
"Extremely Danger" sign needs a symbol too, maybe a guy on fire, and drowning, and attacked by a shark, and being hit by lightning. I want that as a workshop sign!
@@turbocpt1 I bought them but put them on some magnetic sheets so I could put them on my toolbox at work and change them around as I please. The "Not To Be Operated By Fuckwits" and "Engage Safety Squints" are a hit in the shop.
ya know whats fucked up is that i have an uncle who's a machinist, i just havent gotten to talk to him about it yet because i dont feel like im ready to start yet, i need to be in the right place career wise
@@ltheo2000 I feel you. Watching UA-cam of people who inspire me always makes me wish I knew them. I wish there was a way creators could easily contact a few people but then again they would get flooded with people so I understand why there isn't.
@@Gwallacec2 Not that I'm anyone in particular, but I have an "Ask Max" series on my channel for exactly that reason. If you hunt around a little, a lot of your favorite creators probably have an email, Instragram, etc where you can contact them. Lots of Discord servers and Reddit forums for their communities where you'll find lots of helpful people too.
I have never machined or welded in my life nor will I probably ever, although not for lack of interest, yet this is one of maybe three channels that make me go all giddy when I see a new video of theirs in my feed. Hats off to you, Old Tony, and thanks for all the laughs and information I will not have any use for in the foreseeable future! Cheers!
Most of TOT’s videos are beyond my capabilities and a lot just sails over my head. That being said I watch them because he is so freaking hilarious. It's a tool oriented stand up comedy jam everytime. Thanks This Old Tony
I seem to remember watching a few videos by some old fellow, who taught me about brazing dissimilar metals. Can't remember the name, but I'm pretty sure he was like thís old..
Now I'm actually curious: CAN you braze unweldable alloys? I assume the weldbeat popped off that thing because of some ridiculous thermal expansion factor, so you might have the same issues as with welding. Then again, the issue might only be a matter of bonding and/or surface wetting. I am truely curious about the answer to that question.
@@horrorhotel1999 Yes, you can use the HTS2000 type brazing rods for most of the 7000 series alloys, especially given that the brazing rod has a lot of zinc and that's a major alloying component of those metals, so they bond well. The joint is actually stronger than something like 7075 can achieve by itself.
I LOVE how much you’re posting now! You don’t know how many times a week I check for new this old tony videos, and hey your videos are the only way I can fall asleep nowadays, it’s soothing
Thanks for another great video. I _think_ I’ve seen all your videos and I love how you make the process understandable for people like me who have no education on the subjects. Never thought I’d understand the magic behind the correct shape of a lathe tool or a drill bit. Would love to see an in depthe explanation on milling bits and the different kinds of those.
Wow! Fantastic! Two TOT videos in just a couple of days! This one was so good, it almost makes up for the forty eight minutes and one second of my life that I will never get back. 😜
Thank you ToT, good advise. I still have lung issue after 30 years of brazing a leaky galvanized soak tank that was originaly sealed with lead soldering. The detergent chewed it's way through over many years. I thought it would be a good idea to braze it with the yellow flux bronze rod. I wish I knew better or that someone took the torch out of my hands.
Thankyou Tony, for at least attempting to weld 7000 series alloy, because we use some at work and I told the Engineers that the handbook says "that stuff is unweldable", and now you have proven it. I have heard that "some" are weldable under special methods, BUT most are NOT, we have 7075 at work, and the book says ...NO.
In the 70’s I applied for a job in a big metal fab shop. No interview or resumes, “just come out in the shop and weld this magnesium pipe closed” I got the job in 5 minutes.
I'm a hobbyist, just starting and getting by with the scraps I can find here and there. Nothing that matters yet, just goofing around and learning as I go. I'd been doing all right with aluminum; not great, but making progress... and then I hit a spell in my scrap pile where I just could not get a good puddle to form, could not get good bonds going, and got pretty much the exact results you did. This explains so much! Thanks for the informative and funny videos! (Right?)
Your comment about the mad scientist got me curious, so I did a little googling. Turns out, Prof. Xiaochun Li and his team at UCLA managed to develop what's basically a filler rod for 7075 that's infused with titanium carbide nanoparticles, which somehow fix the uneven flow issues of 7075. Tensile strength of the welds were up to 392 megapascals. Not exactly accessible for a home gamer, but apparently they're working with a bike manufacturer on implementing it into production. Sounds like one day, maybe in the not too distant future, we'll be able to weld 7075.
Well, yes and no. There's two distinct problems with welding 7000-series. The first is that the chemistry of the material is such that conventional methods and materials don't actually weld it. That could be fixable by specific filler rods with specialist chemistry. The second is that this is ZINC alloyed aluminum we're talking about. Welding processes are generally hot enough to boil zinc off/out of the material being welded, creating an extremely dangerous fume. That's where that white residue Tony found below the failed bead comes from. On a manufacturing line, you're probably using robotic welders, so you aren't worried about exposing workers to the zinc fumes. For the home welder...just don't. It's possible to protect yourself very effectively, but to do it really well you'd need to combine a welding mask and a respirator with the correct kind of filter for protecting against both fume and dust forms of zinc. You'd also have the possibility of fine zinc dust loose in the shop, which is not a happy thought.
OMT!!!! The ToT has granted us meer mortals another video!!!! Just like winning a quadrupedal jackpot in Vegas! Just wish it was longer... But, Thanks Tony.
Strange, this is the first video of yours sent to me in ages. I’m a subscriber and personally find your videos my favorite. I’m not sure why UA-cam doesn’t want me watching.
Tony! I set aside 50 minutes so I wouldn't have to watch it at ~5X speed like last video, now I have to watch this at ~1/8X speed! Gotta make my quotas...
Here so early. Old Tony is so old. We are watching in 480p! Even I had to hit the side of my Tube TV to stop being so fuzzy. Also, moved the rabbit ears.
Tony, it's the same as if you take a sheet of aluminum and try to form that sheet, it will crack when you try to have it conform to a specific form. But if you cook/temper in an oven that same sheet of aluminum, after you won't have any problem to make that aluminum to conform to the curve shape and you would see any cracks. NOw in your case, that alloy you tried to weld. What happens when you try to weld cast iron cold, it will crack after next to the weld. Now that alloy did the same, the weld bead lifted when it began to turn cold. A friend of mine had this same problem to fix a machined bracket that cracked and broke off that was made of a similar alloy, it looked like aluminum but was impossible to weld. Here what we did to weld these two pieces. We made a jig to hold these two pieces for welding. Now we heated in an oven both pieces for about 20 minutes so these be very hot. ONce we pulled them out we placed them in the jig and started to tig weld them and the weld did stick and held. And is still holding today. Now if by any chance your pipe is made of the same alloy, maybe you should try heating that part in an oven and take it out of the oven and put a bead on it. And see if the bead stay welded to the part. PS. Don't forget to remove any oxydation after the part comes out of the oven if at the first attemp it did not work. And if it doesn't work, well you have something different for an alloy.
Really nice to see Tony's hands with a tig torch in them again. Seems to have been a lot of Maho stuff recently. All interesting, but there's something therapeutic about watching a nice bead being laid down.
Pfft.....all metal I try to weld is unweldable.
Hi :)
Dude, me too, until I kept practicing. Now it actually sticks together well and I'm working on making it look pretty. But I think pretty is kinda overrated.
@@rhull3939 A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't! ;)
@@Xeddyhime the grinder became my best buddy in the workshop.
Bahahahahahahahahaahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is why you only use cruelty-free, organic, grass-fed, stock without added preservatives.
NO HARVEST OF METAL IS CRUELTY-FREE, METAL LIFE MATTERS!
Not conflict free?
I blame it on the Gluten!
@@666Blaine damn gluten *wave my fist*
did you take that joke out of ToT's stock pile? cuz that's totally his humor material
ToT: Imma weld this round stock here.
Round stock: I zinc not!
nice!!
This guy has the perfect blend of knowledge, applied experience, and "humor".
Hmm must have been aluminium and not aluminum.
What's the difference between sodium and sodum... me? I dunno, but why muricans add the letter i to sodum (for example) but not to aluminum? It's so dumb...
i bet
Lol lengthy chuckle!
@@ssc00p have you looked into the history of the spelling of aluminum/aluminium.
lol
The middle piece is from Europe and is in metric. The other parts are in imperial. You can't make them fit together.
They use metric elements, can't use those together.
Everybody knows you can't weld Aluminum to Aluminium.... duh!
@@spacenomad5484 Don't get it?
@@crackedemerald4930 Can, pretty much, for a few sizes
Can't fit metric to imperial? Have you tried a bigger hammer? ;)
That missing “right?” Makes me feel like I held in a sneeze...
I thought for a moment I paused the video, pressed 'k' and actually paused it. I never felt dumber than at that moment.
Tony's humour is superb, this "right" thing made my day!
For him. it's a walk in the cake.
The day I dreaded has come. I have finished watching every video on your channel in the 2 months since I discovered it. No more 'new' videos to watch. Your videos are the highlight of my day in my depressing life. I guess I will have to start from the beginning again.
I have learned a lot even though I do not work with metals or machines. Now I know what tools other youtubers are using just by looking at them. I can even predict what they will do next or what tool they will use. I can just see it coming. I now know WHY they do what they do. This was because of you. Thank you for making such amazing, educating and entertaining videos.
Although I do not get all your jokes, the ones I get are just perfect. It is an amazing feeling when I 'get' what you don't even say. Your humour is the right mix of expectation subversion and expectation subversion-subversion. I came for machining, I stayed for the humour.
P.S.: Your comment section is a pleasure to read too.
Careful with that zinc stuff, breathed a little of that in and 3 years later I was hit by a car
damn bro. i breathed some in and 2 months later lost a game of monopoly. its dangerous stuff.
Well crap 3 years earlier I was hit by a car . . . (well almost 3 years ago. . .)
Guess I'll blame it on the Zinc . . .
@redxpen Maybe lithium + copper? That could make purple.
(as minor additives, obviously. Not that the metal is an alloy of just those!)
@redxpen
My guess is magnesium
Though he said it felt heavy.
@redxpen
Yup the wire peeling post weld, the green arc and the zinc even.
The builders want their scaffolding pole back!
lol
Hey I am missing a brace tube.
@@ironworkerfxr7105 Shop Rule 2; Never turn your back on a welder. Shop Rule 3; Welders that wander around with a tape measure are NOT "On Break". Shop Rule 4; Don't look behind the welding curtain, you can't unsee it.
It's called a tube. You put flags on poles.
Perhaps there was a flag on the scaffolding? 🤔
I was kind of hoping it was magnesium. Everyone loves fireworks :-)
Painful painful fireworks with a show too bright to enjoy.
I was gonna say it looked a bit magnesium like, but turns out we don't get a lights show today.
If This Old Tony was Electroboom
Yeah and when it's on fire get the kiddies to use the garden hose to put it out.
you know magnesium is weldable right?
"and that is still hot." -- Every welder ever
It's not hot...
It's just Heavy!
And HVAC tech. Don't ask about the funny looking scars on my arms
every, damn, time.
Reply just perfectly sums it up really
It never takes me too long to look at a hot piece of metal!
I don't have much to say, but I want to give tony his "viewer engagement" points. Keep up the good work!
reminds me a bit of Magnum p.i. : "I know what you're thinking - and you're right..."
same
Count me in!
5th-ed
Ditto.
“This New Anthony” sure puts out videos more frequently than the previous host, “This Old Tony”.
Looks like his little brother finally fixed Anthony, even if deep down in his heart, Anthony still thinks his little brother stinks.
That Middle-aged Antimony?
TNA means something completely different where I live
LoL
he probably has a lot of time at home now because of covid quarantine.
Looks to me like you got your hands on a rare piece of Scrapbinium.
That stuff goes for a fortune. Better keep piling it up, never know when you might need it.
Not too rare, I convert common metals to it quite frequently.
This Old Tony: "Thanks for watching, and as always..."
Me: "Keep your-"
TOT: "Play safe!"
Me: "That too, I guess."
ah, a man of culture
You got your what stuck in a WHAT?! LOL
I thought it was only me who heard it... :)
Yes, this
Reminded me of Scott Manley "Fly Safe!"
Why didn't you just taste it¿?
Aluminum has an aluminummy taste.... Kind of bland but still good, but alloy mixes taste like a crisp clean river among the mountains as an upside down fairy, a tweaking fawn, a bare bear, a goose w/ horns and a homeless squirrel watches in the distance as you quench your thirst.
Or that's just the hallucinations from severe metal poisoning.... Either way, you would have known as soon as you stopped seizing.
Best comment, I don't need to read the rest.
Stopped here to 🤣
That aluminummy taste caused me to scrap a set of home-made silverware that took me 3 years to make. They turned black in the dishwasher anyway.
7000 series aluminum tastes a little more sour than the rest of them
It's spelled Aluminiummy...... I know ....I know, potato popobot
✋ I've seen a video titled "7075, 7076... Whatever It Takes" of someone welding pegs on his bike. You should get in touch with that guy!
7075 is stronger in UTS terms than mild steels while still being way less dense, so it has its uses, just not as a weldable material. Unless many bike manufacturers lie about their materials (Which wouldn't surprise me at all to be honest, the industry seems to mostly be populated with designers and snake oil salesmen who think they're engineers) 7005 is weldable.
@@peglor OR do they use industrial welding options? There are larger/higher power requirements you can get in a commercial setting, that you cannot get in a home.
@@TechyBen The problem is that welding them with anything that relies on melting (like TIG) significantly weakens the aluminum, regardless of weld power. Friction Stir or another solid-state welding process could be used, but it's usually easier to machine these small bits out of a solid block.
@@peglor 7005 is weldable and used in some aluminium bicycle frames.
Thanks for another excellent video, Tony! I wonder what alloy that motorcycle part was that you welded a while ago - it was also an 'unweldable' alloy, as I recall.
I think the difference between this material and the motorbike footpeg is this is a non-weldable alloy, and the footpeg is a non-weldable grade. The difference being that the grade is in fact possible to weld, though you lose some of the desirable characteristics of the grade (toughness, strength) but a non-weldable alloy means the composition of the metal rejects the metal supplied by the aluminum welding rod.
The footpegs were 7075 aluminum if I remember right
@@magicoddeffect Correct - UA-cam recommended the video, so I went back and watched it. Now I'm wondering how the footpegs are holding up. Might be a good follow up chat video.
ua-cam.com/video/AhMil-ibUTY/v-deo.html
@@Ddabig40mac In the metallurgical world, 'grade' and 'alloy' are synonymous. What you describe is condition - hot-rolled, cold-worked, quenched and tempered, solution treated and aged, etc. Grade refers to an alloy specification, which usually includes a prescribed chemical composition.
Welds are always susceptible to cracking due to a variety of factors like formation of brittle phases, grain boundary segregation, solidification shrinkage, and degradation of mechanical properties in the heat-affected zone. Certain grades of aluminium, including most 2000 and 7000 series alloys, are especially susceptible to liquation cracking as they exhibit a large solidification range (difference between liquidus and solidus temperatures) due to their chemical composition. This can be avoided to some extent by judicious choice of filler metal, but some alloys just cannot be fusion welded no matter what filler metal you use.
@@purerhodium Yah, what he said...
"Shoulda been a walk in the cake." Classic!
You could measure volume and weight and find it's density on a chart.
An actual application of middle school science!
how precise would it need to be though ?
Archimedes to the rescue!
The density of alloy 7075 is 2,81 and 6061 sits at 2,70 g/cm³. That difference should be possible to measure with regular home shop stuff.
do it. doo eet.
Watching him try and weld that gave me that smell of zinc in the nostrils I've gotten used to when I do things I'm not supposed to.
Right?....
I worked for a company that had us weld galvanized steel, had metal fume fever. Now my hands shake
@@maknswarf3684 Damn. I'm sorry, man. It's not right.that employers can expose people to risk like that, let alone not compensate for the harm.
Stay strong.
ToT: “Run of the mill. Get it?”
Me: Right.
Slow clap
Send some to CodysLab, and have him hit it with his xray element detector thing.
He no longer has it as he was borrowing it from his materials science prof and has been kicked out of the school for doing experiments using lab equipment without prior approval.
@@wetpaperbag1346 Only a matter of time before Ben from Applied Science puts one of these together in his basement.
@@richardb4313 AFAIR Ben has one of those... There's a video he made some time ago... O, this one here: ua-cam.com/video/KdfHVcU8U7U/v-deo.html
Applied Science was going to be my next suggestion. I'm pretty sure he has a working unit, I remember him using it on a glass jar full of powder, yttrium something I think.
@@wetpaperbag1346 based
Has anyone else just sat at the tube watching TOT reruns waiting for the next episode or is it just me?
Every week
Heck no, to many Tubalcain episodes to get out of the way. When I get certafried and find a way to refill the Argon, then I can really bust some chips on the Lathe walking the cup.
Yep but UA-cam just keeps "autoplaying" the same vids. Grinding hss tools and the "gears" vids I have seen way to man times.
Sometimes I wake up in the morning singing "Maho, mahoman."
It's horrible really, but I can't stop.
I used to work in a factory and in there unweldable just meant "more amps and hope for the best"
Rings a bell.
Lol I had a feeling it was going end up being some 7000 series alloy. I think a lot of the 7000 series alloys are used in machining operations because they tend to have exceptionally high hardness, harder than mild steel a lot of times. Most of them aren’t weldable by any conventional fusion arc welding methods though. This is the first time I’ve seen someone actually attempt it though. That was a pretty catastrophic reaction to welding lmao!
I'm still waiting for a ToT store, so i can buy some "Extremely Danger" stickers. This Old Store?
"Or....you have to go pee. Go ahead" hahaha
about time... my hand was getting tired.
I was waiting for the toilet flush after that...
@@moandco2438 You have to listen closely, but it's at 6:10
I need some TOT “Extremely Danger” and “Play Safe” stickers in my life! Like the ones AvE sells.
"Extremely Danger" sign needs a symbol too, maybe a guy on fire, and drowning, and attacked by a shark, and being hit by lightning.
I want that as a workshop sign!
I got the "engage safety squints" for the welding bay at work 👌
People still buy stickers these days?
@@turbocpt1 I bought them but put them on some magnetic sheets so I could put them on my toolbox at work and change them around as I please. The "Not To Be Operated By Fuckwits" and "Engage Safety Squints" are a hit in the shop.
@@SuperSecretSquirell ah, ok, sold. I will.order some.
This is absolutely my favorite UA-cam channel. The style, content, and editing are just perfect
Right?
Thank you, TOT. I will make sure to count this alloy into metals I will never weld when I finally buy the welding machine.
These new black 2021 sleeves give the hole thing a “Just one more thing“ vibe
I thought he was going for a disembodied hands effect.
@@davidtaylor6124 I thought that they already were disembodied?
I wish he was my uncle or something. Never had a cool machinist in my life.
ya know whats fucked up is that i have an uncle who's a machinist, i just havent gotten to talk to him about it yet because i dont feel like im ready to start yet, i need to be in the right place career wise
@@Sausketo Start that conversation immediately. If he's willing to help, start now.
Uncle?? Screw that, I want him to adopt me!!
@@ltheo2000 I feel you. Watching UA-cam of people who inspire me always makes me wish I knew them. I wish there was a way creators could easily contact a few people but then again they would get flooded with people so I understand why there isn't.
@@Gwallacec2 Not that I'm anyone in particular, but I have an "Ask Max" series on my channel for exactly that reason. If you hunt around a little, a lot of your favorite creators probably have an email, Instragram, etc where you can contact them. Lots of Discord servers and Reddit forums for their communities where you'll find lots of helpful people too.
I have never machined or welded in my life nor will I probably ever, although not for lack of interest, yet this is one of maybe three channels that make me go all giddy when I see a new video of theirs in my feed. Hats off to you, Old Tony, and thanks for all the laughs and information I will not have any use for in the foreseeable future! Cheers!
You make me happy, friend. It's nice to take break with TOT and forget about everything else except fabrication!!! You're like my meditation...
I too sleep in the workshop on my bench! Just naked though, a real man needs no Duvet!
You have been caught out !
Try making stuff without show us while you are doing doing it. Serves you right!
Still glad you showed us the aftermath.
Amazed at how easily Tony brushes off these deadly encounters!
Most of TOT’s videos are beyond my capabilities and a lot just sails over my head. That being said I watch them because he is so freaking hilarious. It's a tool oriented stand up comedy jam everytime. Thanks This Old Tony
I seem to remember watching a few videos by some old fellow, who taught me about brazing dissimilar metals.
Can't remember the name, but I'm pretty sure he was like thís old..
Now I'm actually curious: CAN you braze unweldable alloys? I assume the weldbeat popped off that thing because of some ridiculous thermal expansion factor, so you might have the same issues as with welding. Then again, the issue might only be a matter of bonding and/or surface wetting. I am truely curious about the answer to that question.
@@horrorhotel1999 Yes, you can use the HTS2000 type brazing rods for most of the 7000 series alloys, especially given that the brazing rod has a lot of zinc and that's a major alloying component of those metals, so they bond well. The joint is actually stronger than something like 7075 can achieve by itself.
For the rest of the video, I was waiting for another "right" so I could lose the rest of my marbles
ikr, right?
:-P
Well 3 rights make a left , unless they are 3 wrongs . . .Then one gets pulled over for going the wrong way in a one way only lane ...
I LOVE how much you’re posting now! You don’t know how many times a week I check for new this old tony videos, and hey your videos are the only way I can fall asleep nowadays, it’s soothing
Thanks for another great video. I _think_ I’ve seen all your videos and I love how you make the process understandable for people like me who have no education on the subjects. Never thought I’d understand the magic behind the correct shape of a lathe tool or a drill bit. Would love to see an in depthe explanation on milling bits and the different kinds of those.
Easy, just use a hot melt glue gun and stack-the-dimes to make it look proper! That's what I do.
...and paint it.
@@greeceuranusputin
A grinder and paint makes a welder what he ain't...
Yep and try not to apply any load until the paint has fully dried.
If the part doesn't look like it'll hold up, clearly not enough coats of paint. The paint is structural remember.
This man is a global treasure. Protect him with high speed steel
Wow! Fantastic! Two TOT videos in just a couple of days! This one was so good, it almost makes up for the forty eight minutes and one second of my life that I will never get back. 😜
The final, "Thanks for watching, and like always, play it safe" broke my brain for a second.
Thank you ToT, good advise. I still have lung issue after 30 years of brazing a leaky galvanized soak tank that was originaly sealed with lead soldering. The detergent chewed it's way through over many years. I thought it would be a good idea to braze it with the yellow flux bronze rod. I wish I knew better or that someone took the torch out of my hands.
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Am I dreaming? The second video in a week!
Thankyou Tony, for at least attempting to weld 7000 series alloy, because we use some at work and I told the Engineers that the handbook says "that stuff is unweldable", and now you have proven it. I have heard that "some" are weldable under special methods, BUT most are NOT, we have 7075 at work, and the book says ...NO.
Thanks for being YOU TOT. You have taught me so much more than I didn't know that I didn't know.
“I’m This Old Tony.... Play Safe...” Quantum entanglement of UA-cam favourites 😍😍😍
Magnesium would do the same thing. Chalky spatter. However it might also flash into a brilliant firework.
In the 70’s I applied for a job in a big metal fab shop. No interview or resumes, “just come out in the shop and weld this magnesium pipe closed” I got the job in 5 minutes.
I'm a hobbyist, just starting and getting by with the scraps I can find here and there. Nothing that matters yet, just goofing around and learning as I go. I'd been doing all right with aluminum; not great, but making progress... and then I hit a spell in my scrap pile where I just could not get a good puddle to form, could not get good bonds going, and got pretty much the exact results you did. This explains so much! Thanks for the informative and funny videos! (Right?)
Great vid as always Tony. Thankyou. Your content and presentation is brilliant!!!
Your comment about the mad scientist got me curious, so I did a little googling. Turns out, Prof. Xiaochun Li and his team at UCLA managed to develop what's basically a filler rod for 7075 that's infused with titanium carbide nanoparticles, which somehow fix the uneven flow issues of 7075. Tensile strength of the welds were up to 392 megapascals.
Not exactly accessible for a home gamer, but apparently they're working with a bike manufacturer on implementing it into production. Sounds like one day, maybe in the not too distant future, we'll be able to weld 7075.
Well, yes and no. There's two distinct problems with welding 7000-series. The first is that the chemistry of the material is such that conventional methods and materials don't actually weld it. That could be fixable by specific filler rods with specialist chemistry. The second is that this is ZINC alloyed aluminum we're talking about. Welding processes are generally hot enough to boil zinc off/out of the material being welded, creating an extremely dangerous fume. That's where that white residue Tony found below the failed bead comes from. On a manufacturing line, you're probably using robotic welders, so you aren't worried about exposing workers to the zinc fumes. For the home welder...just don't. It's possible to protect yourself very effectively, but to do it really well you'd need to combine a welding mask and a respirator with the correct kind of filter for protecting against both fume and dust forms of zinc. You'd also have the possibility of fine zinc dust loose in the shop, which is not a happy thought.
@@evensgrey See, you can tell I've never actually welded.
Transparent aluminum with some “parent” mixed in.
OMT!!!! The ToT has granted us meer mortals another video!!!! Just like winning a quadrupedal jackpot in Vegas! Just wish it was longer... But, Thanks Tony.
A second video in the same week?!??!?! My sunday evening just got better. Tmrw morning i'll start my work week w a big smile:)
"play safe" sounded like a tribute to Scott Manley - fly safe!
Exactly.:-) I was looking for a bald dome. :-D
@@mortisCZ wouldn't mind to see TOT machining a satelite.
Wouldn't be that surprised either.
Two This Old Tony vids within the past several days?? I'm buying some lottery tickets!
The chuckle density of this video is great
Thanks Tony very important advice in the video.
I need a shirt that says "Extremely Danger" and a few stickers, maybe even a ball gag.
This Old Store
@@PoodlePuncher Shirt with Extremely Danger is not in the store
@@simongroot7147 I was agreeing with you, and that the should be called "This Old Store"... is there already a store someplace?
Combine that with a "Situation Norminal" (spacex) and a "Keep your Stick on the Ice" (or its modern equivalent) and you'd have a real mashup.
Needing some Extremely Danger stickers myself...
Strange, this is the first video of yours sent to me in ages. I’m a subscriber and personally find your videos my favorite. I’m not sure why UA-cam doesn’t want me watching.
Thanks for the video, Tony!
A walk in the cake :) I am definitely going to use that. Thanks Tony!
Best used in a sentence like: 'Rocket surgery is no walk in the cake.'
It's good, but it leaves you with a piece of park to clutter up the scrap bin.
"6061.....run of the mill. Get it?" If I did, I'm sure I can take shots for it. Get it? ;)
Tony! I set aside 50 minutes so I wouldn't have to watch it at ~5X speed like last video, now I have to watch this at ~1/8X speed! Gotta make my quotas...
Love your videos, always a joy to watch and learn.
Pah. All metals are unweldable to me!
(Goes to cry)
you are not alone! :-) can i cry with you? haha
What were those sparks at 4:51 when you touched the loose weld?
magnesium?
Metal goblins with their hair on fire, they always leave the scene of the crime real fast.
Watching it at 0.25x speed makes for some good entertainment.
Thanks for the vid mate. All the best from Australia
You never cease to make me laugh, no matter what the subject is.
Whoa whoa, 2 videos in a week? You feeling alright Tony?
He was...until the zinc bong hit he just took from that 7000 aluminum lol funny as hell video.
Must be another lockdown.
Tony, it's been so long. Good to see you again!
This is my favorite UA-cam channel!
It's only Monday morning and I already learned something. Thanks!
Here so early. Old Tony is so old. We are watching in 480p! Even I had to hit the side of my Tube TV to stop being so fuzzy. Also, moved the rabbit ears.
You'll need to shake your fist at the kids on your lawn for best reception quality.
For some reason I expected different outcome. I wanted to see it welded, despite being “unweldable”.
That chicken at 1:40 is well placed, almost overlooked it.Chapeau!
Thanks Tony!
Speaking of unweldable, what happened with the bike repair on the "unweldable" alloy?
scratched knees.
And some choice words
‘Minding my own business’........ hahahahaha. Thanks for sharing with us
Thanks for the public service announcement and sharing.
Tony, it's the same as if you take a sheet of aluminum and try to form that sheet, it will crack when you try to have it conform to a specific form. But if you cook/temper in an oven that same sheet of aluminum, after you won't have any problem to make that aluminum to conform to the curve shape and you would see any cracks. NOw in your case, that alloy you tried to weld. What happens when you try to weld cast iron cold, it will crack after next to the weld. Now that alloy did the same, the weld bead lifted when it began to turn cold.
A friend of mine had this same problem to fix a machined bracket that cracked and broke off that was made of a similar alloy, it looked like aluminum but was impossible to weld.
Here what we did to weld these two pieces. We made a jig to hold these two pieces for welding. Now we heated in an oven both pieces for about 20 minutes so these be very hot. ONce we pulled them out we placed them in the jig and started to tig weld them and the weld did stick and held. And is still holding today. Now if by any chance your pipe is made of the same alloy, maybe you should try heating that part in an oven and take it out of the oven and put a bead on it. And see if the bead stay welded to the part. PS. Don't forget to remove any oxydation after the part comes out of the oven if at the first attemp it did not work. And if it doesn't work, well you have something different for an alloy.
"A walk in the cake." Good one!!!!!! If you walk in the cake, do it with your mouth open.
It tastes batter that way!
Especially if you plan on putting your foot in mouth.
@@blahblahblahblah2933 Oops , lol.
I was waiting for it to be magnesium and catch fire while welding.
Keep them coming, viewer engagement accomplished. More people should know about the channel
Those spikes in your retention analytics are where I rewind when my wife is interrupting me watching this video. Must be half a dozen spikes or so.
Did anyone else say "right" after the sentence when Tony didn't say it haha
"Play safe" outro, has someone been watching Scott Manley?
Yeah. Might as well use "Keep your safe in a vice" ;-)
"Fly"
Thought the same, I think its a reference
Right?
Scott isn't the one who says right all the time, right?
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2 Videos in one Week👉🏻best Week of my life
Greetings from Germany
Its always fun to learn something new. Great video.
Thanks Tony I was holding that pee for 5 minutes
why would you hold that?
i hope you washed the pee off your hands.
Could you please do a shop tour? And don't clean it up we want to see the interesting things ;)
I am pretty sure what we see is the whole shop. Bench, lathe, mill, welder, and a bit of floor, all suspender in the outer space.
The huge swarf pile behind the lathe bed sated me! I felt extreme tranquility and peace after that “money shot”!
Tony, you found that piece of unobtainium I lost years ago. Good on ya.
Really nice to see Tony's hands with a tig torch in them again. Seems to have been a lot of Maho stuff recently. All interesting, but there's something therapeutic about watching a nice bead being laid down.