For Saw VIII, they should have Tobin Bell just show up totally alive, and be like "You thought I died, but that was not Jigsaw who died. That was my brother, Twinsaw."
TypischTygo I can just picture a scene in Saw 16 where one of Jigsaw's minions is just sitting in his car with some binoculars and spots a guy throwing a piece of gum on the ground. He then runs up to the guy, knocks him out and makes him murder his entire family.
Scene from Saw 27: *Jigsaw stares intensely at security feed* *Rando guy nonchalantly picks nose* Jigsaw: *~Phones minion~* SET HIM UP IN THE TRAP WHERE HE HAS TO DECIDE BETWEEN KILLING A NUN AND A PUPPY!
Going into this video I actually thought it was Strahm who was the killer, it's been quite a few years since I saw the movies and the two characters seem to have kinda just merged together in my head over time
Strahm also kind of looks like Nicholas Cage. Also, not only we can't tell some Asians apart,but now white peoples aswell. (I am not rasict and an Asian myself)
People aren’t desensitized. You just know if something is real or fake. Example, SAW movies don’t make me cringe, but him vommitting into a bucket makes me almost throw up. Your mind knows when something is real or fake
+Logan Carlile Yeah. The things that got me the most in the Saw films was when people like Adam vomits upon seeing the body in the bathroom in Saw, and when John starts vomiting when he is having a seizure in Saw III. Also, the head surgery in Saw III, and John’s autopsy in Saw IV made me shudder too, because it’s closer to something that goes on in real life, not like a British guy being blown to bits with nail bombs in Saw V.
I beg to differ; I know I for one have become almost completly numb to violence and fear from my long career of watching horror movies and playing horror games. His real life puking also didn't effect me.
@@notsae66 I thought I was completely numb as a result of those, then I took some medical classes and had to go sit in an ambulance for clinicals, and uh, nope. I don't get sick at the sight of it, but you definitely don't become desensitized just as a result of exposure to it in media: you were likely to be indifferent toward it regardless, the movies don't do anything when you see it in front of you. Nothing in a horror movie can prepare you for when you actually see organs struggling to stay inside somebody. That media will never be able to convey that level of stress, the smells, the sounds.. it can try, but trust me, it doesn't prepare you for the real experience.
Same here. But my breakfast seems like it stayed in my stomach, is it normal or do I have th*BLLLLLRRRRGGGGHHHB* *BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH*
To pass the "pound of flesh" test, instead of cutting pieces off of myself and putting them on the scale, I would put the knives & cleavers on the scale instead. Steel has got to weight more right?
*Jigsaw makes you cut your legs off* Jigsaw: “Don’t you appreciate your life more?” Me: “Actually, my standard of living has decreased significantly.” Jigsaw: “So, yes?”
I’m pretty sure it’s implied (at least in the first three movies) that John Kramer is fucking INSANE, and the only reason he gets other people involved with the jigsaw project is a) they are very vulnerable and easy to manipulate or b) they are fucking sadists that like hurting people anyways. I don’t know why people think this character is acting rationally when his backstory is that he tried to kill himself when he got diagnosed with cancer but he just so happen to survive and he took it as a sign to start his new calling to do the same for other people to convince them to live too. I don’t know how anyone reads this as anything else but the ramblings of a mad man.
@@mosura2695I’ve seen a lot of saw fans acknowledge that John is crazy and a hypocrite. One of the of big things is how often the games tie into people that screwed him even though he tells Hoffman not to make it personal.
for reference and for some of you that want to see Adam barfing, or for those of you that want to avoid that portion of the video, here are the timestamps: 2:25 - 2:55
I'd say that was what a typical teen would be, now an edgy teen looks fem or you can't tell what gender it is, has half of it's hair pink or purple, a pearl necklace, and a twelve year old anime girl Hot Topic shirt. And of course will take offence at my comment naturally lol.
Well no. Any nick in the major vein will work. About in the armpit, and in the crotch, the airway. Lots of places you can do to kill someone with a small knife. If you know your anatomy it isn't that hard to think of this.
AltShiftSpam also the neck is an easy spot to hit. chances are they won't be actively defending it. whereas stabbing someone in the armpit means they have to have raised their arm and if they have done that they are probably swinging a punch right at your face.
AltShiftSpam Actually under the jaw, unless you hit the major veins, is not going to kill everyone. The fact is you can kill someone FAST by just slicing under the arm because you are cutting a major vein. From where he is stabbing in several cases he is stabbing Up into the jaw. In that area. That's not exactly a kill shot. Its easier to make a nick on the major veins, and leave since the person is going to be concentrated on stopping their bleeding out. Just watch the 'fight' scenes again. You'll see SOME of the stabs aren't even in deadly areas. It can be HARD to hit the major veins in the neck. Unless he is going for the wind pipe, or the base of the brain, he isn't always hitting the major areas. And on that, that knife isn't big enough to HIT the base of the brain. Not accounting for the brain of course.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid not quite. The man in that was possibly just as deranged and vile as *some* of his wards. I think we're looking more at Dexter than Human Centipede 3.
Because every time I've ever seen a romantic/sexual situation where it's one guy and two girls the two girls end up attacking each other instead of ganging up on the guy who is sleeping with both of them and knowing cheating on them with each other.
+stave I'd prefer a bad last 10 minutes of a Paranormal Activity than a bad Saw movie. The only thing I've been interested in in the Paranormal Activity movies were the endings. Those are the only parts I remember, to be honest. All the goreshit in Saw gets kinda old after a while, while tension of that kind doesn't get old that fast.
Alex Hendel The lead singer of Linkin Park that he mentioned having having a cameo in the last movie. He committed suicide a few months ago. Kinda messed up to see him in it now.
Funny how we're so desensitized to violence that the scenes from the movies don't bother us but once he starts gagging into a bucket suddenly everyone goes mad.
+Brad Laws It's easier to relate to vomiting and its nasty feeling than getting hacked into pieces. That's why it feels more icky. There's a pretty (overrated) horror film called Deep Red where they actually tried to make all the murders more "relatable" than your usual slasher deaths. Like getting your teeth hit against a sharp corner of the table, burning yourself with hot water etc. While I didn't care for the film itself, those deaths did feel more disturbing because I can actually imagine how all that shit would feel, but there's no way I could relate to the Saw's reverse bear trap mask for example. Just food for thought or something lol
I can stand gore on the screen but I couldn't stand seeing a crow get hit by a car in reality. I'm not desensitized to real violence, only fictional violence. Even then I have my limits. I can't stand living cannibalism, as seen in the anime Pupa.
+Brad Laws That's because people see a film and are aware its not real, its so over the top and bullshit we don't recognize it as something to be scared of because our brains know its not really happening. Him puking was entirely real so it gets a real reaction.
+Brad Laws That's because people see a film and are aware its not real, its so over the top and bullshit we don't recognize it as something to be scared of because our brains know its not really happening. Him puking was entirely real so it gets a real reaction.
For an actor that Dr. Gordon fellow is the worst liar i've ever seen. "Saw 7 is by faaar the best" - shakes his head no. "But... you know i have lots of fans from many different movies" - Shakes his head no again.
I liked the first two Saw movies because it was genuinely about a madman who wanted to teach people to appreciate their lives. Sure the second one had plot holes and inconsistencies, but it was still a solid Saw movie with a bunch of people who were anything but innocent. I could get behind a twisted villain who didn't think he was doing anything wrong on that basis. And despite the fact that his victims were morally reprehensible, you could still sympathise with them. Like, for example, the black guy in the second movie. Yes, he was a criminal, but he repented/paid for his crimes and wanted to move on. Amanda was just a suicidal junkie with a hard life. It's not like she'd killed anyone ... yet. The blonde chick and Spanish chick in the second movie were only thieves or something. It's not like the audience didn't root for them. And obviously the characters in the first movie were iconic and likeable. But after those two movies, Jigsaw and his little posse started killing innocent people for no reason. About every other victim was a nobody who, at the very MOST, deserved a slap on the wrist. Unless they were the worst of the worst, like the fat rapist in the ... fifth movie? I don't know anymore. But yeah, when they brought in characters like that, no one gave a shit when they died. Why would we? There was no sense of tension, no suspense, no need for deductions, no horror, no satisfying conclusion; it was just a cluster fuck of gore. The wife burning to death in the last film was absolutely disgusting. They gave her the most grisly and arguably painful death in the entire franchise, when she didn't do anything wrong. Jigsaw _never_ would have done that. I know it was his trap, but the writers/directors lost the plot way before that. They actually _did_ turn Saw into nothing more than mindless torture porn, with an added nonsensical twist at the end of every sequel that screamed, "Look! We're still smart! We're not _just_ about the violence!" -_______-
kirikakirikakirika in the first film Jigsaw placed a mother and her young daughter in the game faced with a man who was told to shoot them both if her husband didn’t complete the game in time - so I disagree that Jigsaw wouldn’t have mistreated innocent people. Maybe he wouldn’t have used something as harrowing as a brazen bull, but he certainly traumatized two young children (Saw and Saw III) and wantonly threatened their lives. He also placed an immobilized but still alive guy in with Amanda, and she had to stab into his stomach to get her key - he didn’t have a chance either. The death of the loyal wife in Saw 3D was particularly nasty, but Cramer was always a psychotic, delusional asshole.
@@steves1015 I said Saw III wasn't really a film I enjoyed. Just the first two. I agree he probably traumatised the wife and daughter in the first film, but didn't it turn out that they were never actually in any danger? It's been a while since I've watched it, but didn't he set it up in such a way that the shooter would be taken out before hurting them? And Amanda's boyfriend, wasn't he also a junkie and her dealer? And he could've lived, Amanda just had to spare him and sacrifice herself. I'm not saying his games weren't unfair, but for the most part you understood where he was coming from. He was wrong and insane, but interesting and understandable. Then with Saw III and everything after ... it just went way down hill.
Could also argue the two main characters in the first film being punished was unjustified? You got a paparrazi/photographer, and a doctor who actually saves lives or makes them better and should not be punished.
As much as I love Tobin Bell's acting, seeing him with a hoodie and a backwards baseball cap made me laugh. It's like he's pretending to be a teen or something.
+juppukun Lol same. I'm kinda expecting him to say, "Well, me and my fourth form chums think it would be quite corking if you'd sign over your oil well to the local energy concern."
@OpGamers Is that the same advice you'd give if Adum decided to graphically illustrate his pee and poop plan with closeups of the organs responsible while performing their respective functions?
I usually binge watch yms reviews every so often, and I always forget which is the vomiting one. Glad I have fast reflexes, I don't need to see that more than once.
Is it me, or does the blood in Saw 3D look really pink? I mean, sometimes it's mostly red but just a little discolored, but at the end, it's Danganronpa levels of discolored.
Probably. It's actually a way to get around the censors. By desaturating the colour of the blood you can get away with showing so much more blood It's stupid, but it works and I assume that's why they did it
Fun fact, Danganronpa’s pink blood was never censorship, it’s a common misconception. It’s actually an intentional stylistic choice. Kodaka said it looked cool and fit the “psycho pop” aesthetics of the game. He even said “the imagery of red blood was kinda meh”
+coolfunkDJ I watched the review to see if I should watch all the ones after the first, and as it turns out, I've seen them all at some point. talk about unmemorable, huh?
For some reason before watching this video I watched saw and laughed at every death. For example the killing spree thing I laughed throughout the movie theater...and people sorta noticed my laughing soooooo...yeah
Adam Gall I thought it was gross until the guy started talking about bugs while the puking continued. Made me laugh my ass off. puking = gross, puking + off-topic rambling = hilarious. Comedy is weird.
His pectoral muscles would’ve been far too damaged to pull the same trick (hook) twice, all Jigsaw had to do was say, “take your shirt off.” That kind of scar would never heal enough to be completely hidden-hell, I messed with a scratch on my forehead one time too many, and now it’s got a mark on it for life. Even surgery would leave a mark.
The anticipation of pain, with no physical feedback could work. If the video game was designed right, like perhaps making choices between characters the player has attachment to. And I don't know how advanced Vive controllers are or anything, but Switch joycon's HD rumble can create illusions of weight, so with the right equipment it would be possible to simulate some thing physical. Either way it's a terrible idea because if it gets pulled off correctly it would be extremely traumatizing.
Edgy Veggie Cult of Chucky was one big ass clusterfuck. Who put that movie on all the drugs? By the way they ended it, it makes it look like they are expecting to make another one. However, I am looking forward to Jigsaw.
shortcake gogh I would love to go and watch Jigsaw but it's R18+ over here so I can't watch it. I'll definitely watch it once it's on blu ray. Or even just an online copy.
9:48 this is why I love your reviews, they are all put together in a way witch makes the whole thing fun to watch, and you addin stuff like this just because, you are my favorite UA-camr.
LOL WTF I have never seen anyone puke like that. It's like the people that can burp on command but you do it with vomit. Jigsaw: I just force fed you something poisonous, if you want the antidote you have to cut off your arm. Adam: **pukes** Jigsaw: **disgusted face** How did you do that?? Adam: Nope still goin' **bleghhhh** Jigsaw: ...Please stop. Adam: **blEGGHHHHH** Jigsaw: PLEASE JUST LEAVE YOU'RE FREE TO GO Adam: Still pukin'! **BLEEEGHGHGHHHGH!!** appreciate life more jackass **BLEGHHGHH**
Have you ever made yourself burp? Its very similar to that. Its called regurgitating and there's this dude thats famous for doing it with water. He drinks hella water and acts like a human hose 😂😂😂
Can we just assume that the pig people with Dr. Gordon are Michael Tapp and Melissa Sing from the Saw games? In the cannon end of the first game we don't find out what happened to Melissa, and at the end of the second we don't know what happened to Michael, so I'm going to assume that they're the ones helping Dr. Gordon
21:02 I think he's making a valid point. Yes it would be bloody painful to have your throat damaged, but she heard the tape telling her to stay silent! As soon as it finishes, she starts screaming like she WANTS to die! You can see her screaming when the key is out of her mouth as well, so if she stayed silent for that bit, she could have gotten out!
_Spiral_ abandoned this overarching overdrawn theme of the later sequels, and instead just established that apparently most unrelated serial killers in the world of _Saw_ function like Jigsaw, because making all these recordings and putting victims in elaborate traps is just so much cooler than killing them on the spot. Even those killers who just want to kill their target without any consideration for giving them a choice or a chance to survive will still go through the trouble of setting up an elaborate trap and the illusion of choice, kind of like what Hoffman did to his first victim only even more elaborate. This isn’t even a plot twist - the movie and even the trailer clearly establish from the very start that the villain is a completely new serial killer, he just chose to kill his victims that way Jigsaw did.
Watching Adam make himself throw up was somehow 50 times more upsetting than anything in any Saw movie.
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
@@ZyrusSmith tf does that even mean
@@CarlsCozyCorner i understand it
@@CarlsCozyCorner If you've been out in the world you would know exactly what that means. Adum lets his freak-flag fly and we love him for it.
@@CarlsCozyCorner he’s trying to say Adam looks like he could be bulimic which is beyond fucked up.
For Saw VIII, they should have Tobin Bell just show up totally alive, and be like "You thought I died, but that was not Jigsaw who died. That was my brother, Twinsaw."
the worst part is that the series was more far fetched than that after saw 2
Makes sense
+qwertyMrJINX That sounds like a spin-off series if I've even heard it; Twinsaw; 20 movies at least.
+qwertyMrJINX You were expecting Jigsaw, but it was me! Dio!
It was Punished Venom Jigsaw all along.
why is it so funny that Jigsaw just randomly put a janitor in his trap for being a smoker
TypischTygo I can just picture a scene in Saw 16 where one of Jigsaw's minions is just sitting in his car with some binoculars and spots a guy throwing a piece of gum on the ground. He then runs up to the guy, knocks him out and makes him murder his entire family.
Scene from Saw 27:
*Jigsaw stares intensely at security feed*
*Rando guy nonchalantly picks nose*
Jigsaw: *~Phones minion~* SET HIM UP IN THE TRAP WHERE HE HAS TO DECIDE BETWEEN KILLING A NUN AND A PUPPY!
The only way to save himself is to finger his own nose off his face!
Average Gamer TG “YOURE ALL RACISTS!”
I could now imagine Jigsaw making someone run over an entire class of kids just because he said "I think school sucks".
Yo I was eating
TF you doing here this late?
@@furno1089 It's almost like youtube videos are allowed to be rewatched after they come out
@@bkjstudio Blasphemy!
Ich hätte dich nie hier vor zwei Monaten erwartet lol
Damn your content looks really good but I don’t speak german
Was the whole part where you vomited really necessary
+InDeepPudding He was showing that he could make the audience more uncomfortable than the movies. I think.
It's pretty cool though that he can do that on command
+InDeepPudding Yes.
just skip it, that's what I did. Problem solved
+InDeepPudding Yes it was.
Adam: or I would just vomit into it
Me: *skips a few seconds into video*
I didn't switch tabs in time...ugh the noises.
+Kcjoe 2004 you did yourself a favour... that was very off putting.. wasn't even funny..
When he said "Just use your stomach as a lung" I tried it as if it was one breath and now I feel like im about to die
I...did the same thing...
@@RikXtreme4 I thought it was funny... I seem to be in the minority on that opinion though.
8:30
"When you're killing me, you look at me!"
Honestly those are some pretty badass last words.
Joe Hollingsworth then proceeds to whimper
Delivery was shit, though.
Turned into Batman at that point
Someone is CLEARLY trying to get an Emmy
Man 1: Cocks gun.
Man 2: Look a man in the face before you kill him.
Man 1: *BANG.*
Imagine you're in the weight trap versus some skinny white dude who removes his shirt and starts puking with hardly any expression on his face
I can never tell Strahm and Hoffman apart, which makes it even harder to follow the convoluted story
Going into this video I actually thought it was Strahm who was the killer, it's been quite a few years since I saw the movies and the two characters seem to have kinda just merged together in my head over time
Strahm also kind of looks like Nicholas Cage.
Also, not only we can't tell some Asians apart,but now white peoples aswell.
(I am not rasict and an Asian myself)
@@r7ahtesham885 all races just have people that genuinely look alike 😅
@@rosestar1324 Yes I know, I included so that libtards don't cry their ass out
Okay, I thought I was the only one. I was confused when one was in the box
People aren’t desensitized. You just know if something is real or fake. Example, SAW movies don’t make me cringe, but him vommitting into a bucket makes me almost throw up. Your mind knows when something is real or fake
+Logan Carlile Yeah. The things that got me the most in the Saw films was when people like Adam vomits upon seeing the body in the bathroom in Saw, and when John starts vomiting when he is having a seizure in Saw III. Also, the head surgery in Saw III, and John’s autopsy in Saw IV made me shudder too, because it’s closer to something that goes on in real life, not like a British guy being blown to bits with nail bombs in Saw V.
I beg to differ; I know I for one have become almost completly numb to violence and fear from my long career of watching horror movies and playing horror games. His real life puking also didn't effect me.
how about stop being a pussy
@@zoidbergmaybe edgelord
@@notsae66 I thought I was completely numb as a result of those, then I took some medical classes and had to go sit in an ambulance for clinicals, and uh, nope. I don't get sick at the sight of it, but you definitely don't become desensitized just as a result of exposure to it in media: you were likely to be indifferent toward it regardless, the movies don't do anything when you see it in front of you. Nothing in a horror movie can prepare you for when you actually see organs struggling to stay inside somebody. That media will never be able to convey that level of stress, the smells, the sounds.. it can try, but trust me, it doesn't prepare you for the real experience.
Please no one ever vomit again.
+PuddingTrucks *bleurgh* *urrgh* sorry.
+PuddingTrucks i was fucking eating
Nothing in these Saw films made me as sick as watching this guy vomit.
I was eating breakfast :(
Same here. But my breakfast seems like it stayed in my stomach, is it normal or do I have th*BLLLLLRRRRGGGGHHHB* *BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH*
The *BEST* quote from saw:
*I tHinK wErE bReAkInG uP wITh yOU tINA*
Bros before hoes dude
Nah it's
"Piranha"
*Dina
Holy shit, I hit that part in the video as I scrolled down and saw you.
Nah best line is “KILLING IS DISTASTEFUL”
To pass the "pound of flesh" test, instead of cutting pieces off of myself and putting them on the scale, I would put the knives & cleavers on the scale instead. Steel has got to weight more right?
Well, it's heavier n' feathers
Couldn’t you just push the scale down
Well if people made decisions like that, we wouldn’t have a franchise.
the knifes were chained to the table and were dull soh they could'nt cut the chains
@@viniciusfurtado5568 Yeah, if only those knives were sharp they would have sliced clean through that steel chain.
Damn you, Jigsaw!
*Jigsaw makes you cut your legs off*
Jigsaw: “Don’t you appreciate your life more?”
Me: “Actually, my standard of living has decreased significantly.”
Jigsaw: “So, yes?”
“Actually, my standard of living has decreased significantly.”
Something about the formal way you wrote that was so funny
ye like this people mutilate themselves and they dont even know if they'll come out alive, why bother
I’m pretty sure it’s implied (at least in the first three movies) that John Kramer is fucking INSANE, and the only reason he gets other people involved with the jigsaw project is a) they are very vulnerable and easy to manipulate or b) they are fucking sadists that like hurting people anyways. I don’t know why people think this character is acting rationally when his backstory is that he tried to kill himself when he got diagnosed with cancer but he just so happen to survive and he took it as a sign to start his new calling to do the same for other people to convince them to live too. I don’t know how anyone reads this as anything else but the ramblings of a mad man.
Man, smell that desperation for lulz.
@@mosura2695I’ve seen a lot of saw fans acknowledge that John is crazy and a hypocrite. One of the of big things is how often the games tie into people that screwed him even though he tells Hoffman not to make it personal.
Hoffman in the Saw Movies is just a live action representation of ignoring the stealth in a stealth video game and just tanking the enemies instead
Why did you show us 18 seconds of vomiting without warning
Cheybat he did warn you
kelland
No, he didnt
@OpGamers LMAO dawg I'd bet money you didn't know it was coming, unless you're as omniscient as Jigsaw here
At least he didn't piss.
Because he showed you 28 minutes of Saw
Shotgun scene
"A fuckin blast"
its a "nyece" pun
why are there two bill nyes
*hopes to God you noticed the pun*
+ReD BuLL|Teh realest dipsh*t ayyyyyyyy
+ReD BuLL|Teh realest dipsh*t This is all "bill" shit...
Please don't ever put puke in your video again.
Don't worry, this is from 2012. I doubt he'll do it again.
thank god, that was the worst part of this whole vid. wasn't even humorous
RikXtreme4 I was eating while that was happening and I lost my appetite
@@Mxxxgamer I feel sick now
@@Mxxxgamer
I pity you more than anyone or anything else in the whole world
8:23 - 8:38 That actually gave me chills. Something about the helplessness of it all and the resign in his voice. Weirdly heartbreaking for a Saw film
This is 2 years late, but yeah! That was some gut wrenching acting
@@chrisj403 The way he goes from pissed off to scared out of his mind just gets to me. This guy is only in one scene yet he steals the show.
The way William looks up at him emotionlessly after he tells him to look at him, I- 🥺🤧🤚
It's the music as well but yes, one of the best pieces of acting in the series.
"You killed my father, but now you must face me...Jigson."
for reference and for some of you that want to see Adam barfing, or for those of you that want to avoid that portion of the video, here are the timestamps:
2:25 - 2:55
Thanks!
Bro I didn’t read the comments beforehand :(
...too late...god that was so unnecessary.
Thanks I need another round of fapping
Thanks, it’s so friggin cool
21:10
Did anyone else see Tobin dressed up like an edgy teen & just lose all fear of the character? I laughed my ass off.
What is up my fellow kids
ikr right? Like why is he dressed up as Eminem??
@@deadpoolnerd That backwards cap is just... *Chef's kiss*
@@Katyamuffin takes 35 years off him
I'd say that was what a typical teen would be, now an edgy teen looks fem or you can't tell what gender it is, has half of it's hair pink or purple, a pearl necklace, and a twelve year old anime girl Hot Topic shirt. And of course will take offence at my comment naturally lol.
Jigsaw isn't the omniscient god. Tobin Bell himself is the god.
he makes me think he knows exactly what im going to do next, even the slightest detail its terrifying
The writers' obeyed HIM more than the actual producer, i can see why. He looks like he'd kill you without moving, talking or blinking.
I thought the same until I saw his earlier role in Seinfeld, then I felt like he was just a normal human with a deep voice
@@totalwartimelapses6359 well I need to finish up Seinfeld cause I don't think I've seen that one
I have to think he's brother to Mike Ehrmantraut.
The “when your killing me, you look at me!” Is such a bad ass moment.
You're*
@@Delowist yeah i fucking know and this is not my mother language so
@@thevirtuoso8362 proud of u
Yes then he start crying ( which is normal but for the movie no)
It would've been better without the overacting.
LOL the opening trap in saw7 is the ultimate ''bros before hoes"" moment if I've ever seen one.
mother fuckers joined Thot Patrol in unison
MGTOW: trap edition
Saw starts cutting her body.
(Hehe wink - get it saw)
Me: *Fuck Yeah!*
The anti simps
My head-canon is that they both realize after this that they are bisexual and become a gay couple. No one can convince me otherwise.
Hoffman just LOOOOOVES that under-the-jaw stab, doesn't he?
to be fair when you have a tiny shiv like that it's one of the only ways you can actually kill people.
Well no. Any nick in the major vein will work. About in the armpit, and in the crotch, the airway. Lots of places you can do to kill someone with a small knife. If you know your anatomy it isn't that hard to think of this.
Yeah why not go for the fastest and easiest way when you can torture someone and aim for the armpit lol mr. edgelord.
AltShiftSpam also the neck is an easy spot to hit. chances are they won't be actively defending it. whereas stabbing someone in the armpit means they have to have raised their arm and if they have done that they are probably swinging a punch right at your face.
AltShiftSpam Actually under the jaw, unless you hit the major veins, is not going to kill everyone. The fact is you can kill someone FAST by just slicing under the arm because you are cutting a major vein. From where he is stabbing in several cases he is stabbing Up into the jaw. In that area. That's not exactly a kill shot. Its easier to make a nick on the major veins, and leave since the person is going to be concentrated on stopping their bleeding out. Just watch the 'fight' scenes again. You'll see SOME of the stabs aren't even in deadly areas. It can be HARD to hit the major veins in the neck. Unless he is going for the wind pipe, or the base of the brain, he isn't always hitting the major areas.
And on that, that knife isn't big enough to HIT the base of the brain. Not accounting for the brain of course.
That vomit thing you did was more scary than most of the saw films.
In what situation would being able to vomit on command ever be practical?
@@TeamFriendship8600 if don’t want to go to school or work you can call in sick
lowkey wish i can do that
I think what insults me the most is that people actually believe that these movies are brilliant and the character of Jigsaw is in any way noble.
I guess the argument is there that he started off noble but after the first two movies that notion had just gone out the window
Maybe me if he was doing it to rapists and serial killers it would be noble rather than up its own arse
@@Tickerchicken So like whatever the last Human Centipede was?
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid not quite. The man in that was possibly just as deranged and vile as *some* of his wards. I think we're looking more at Dexter than Human Centipede 3.
@@oddeyes9413 I blanked on Dexter! Thanks for reminding me.
Tobin Bell in that backwards hat, "What's up fellow teens?"
Damn! That car scene really made my skin crawl. Those wounds will not heal. But in the end it doesn't even matter!
get out
+Luna “The Smol Bean” Guanna but i tried so hard
+John Werner you got so far :^)
He tried so hard and got so far
+Slammed Mustang66 But in the end... it didn't even matter.
Fun fact: In French, Saw 6 is pronounced exactly like "Saucisse" which means "Sausage".
ooob
This is not a joke that is sau cease is how would actually pronounce it in French
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate you.
Munjee Syed he already explained this. Why Are you repeating what He Said??
@@meinname5788 just confirming that this was actually true not something the guy made up
Me:
[Sees gore and intense torture]
This is okay.
[Sees vomit]
OH FUCK THAT'S DISGUSTING
WasabiKitKat same
SAME
I'm an emetophobe, which is just a fancy word for someone who is irrationally terrified of vomit. This is me up to eleven.
"someone who is irrationally terrified of vomit" isnt the fancy way of saying it??
WasabiKitKat yeah same vomit is just gross
"Why I am up against a fat guy?"
You're right, completely unfair.
I genuinely thought the opening trap of 3d with the girl and two guys was a parody...omg
Why do I have a feeling that if it had been two girls and a guy they would've killed each other fighting over the guy? Too much "Springer" I guess. :)
Because every time I've ever seen a romantic/sexual situation where it's one guy and two girls the two girls end up attacking each other instead of ganging up on the guy who is sleeping with both of them and knowing cheating on them with each other.
Chris McWilliams No that's only on fucking tv and movies dumbass
Huniepop Wasn't a mistake
Saw is a movie
Chris McWilliams Lmao, that’s Hollywood. If it was real life, the girls would gang up on the guy, without a second thought
I'd prefer a bad saw movie over a bad paranormal activity.
for me is the other way.
+stave I'd prefer a bad last 10 minutes of a Paranormal Activity than a bad Saw movie.
The only thing I've been interested in in the Paranormal Activity movies were the endings. Those are the only parts I remember, to be honest. All the goreshit in Saw gets kinda old after a while, while tension of that kind doesn't get old that fast.
Basically you're saying you prefer a Saw movie to a Paranormal Activity movie.
+Snipper Joey hell no paranormal activity please
stave Same. I can't stand paranormal
Hoffman kills everyone like he's playing a stealth video game
RIP Chester Bennington.
An actually decent actor.
2:38 is grosser than all the gore I saw in this review. Why do you do this.
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
@@ZyrusSmith agreed, he actually does
Seeing that Chester cameo is pretty depressing now...
why?
who the fuck is Chester?
Alex Hendel The lead singer of Linkin Park that he mentioned having having a cameo in the last movie. He committed suicide a few months ago. Kinda messed up to see him in it now.
Yup....RIP Chester
Cause he ded
Funny how we're so desensitized to violence that the scenes from the movies don't bother us but once he starts gagging into a bucket suddenly everyone goes mad.
+Brad Laws
It's easier to relate to vomiting and its nasty feeling than getting hacked into pieces. That's why it feels more icky.
There's a pretty (overrated) horror film called Deep Red where they actually tried to make all the murders more "relatable" than your usual slasher deaths. Like getting your teeth hit against a sharp corner of the table, burning yourself with hot water etc. While I didn't care for the film itself, those deaths did feel more disturbing because I can actually imagine how all that shit would feel, but there's no way I could relate to the Saw's reverse bear trap mask for example.
Just food for thought or something lol
I can stand gore on the screen but I couldn't stand seeing a crow get hit by a car in reality.
I'm not desensitized to real violence, only fictional violence. Even then I have my limits. I can't stand living cannibalism, as seen in the anime Pupa.
+Brad Laws
Movie = Fake
Vomit = Real
Movie = Entertainment
Vomit = Vomit
+Brad Laws That's because people see a film and are aware its not real, its so over the top and bullshit we don't recognize it as something to be scared of because our brains know its not really happening. Him puking was entirely real so it gets a real reaction.
+Brad Laws That's because people see a film and are aware its not real, its so over the top and bullshit we don't recognize it as something to be scared of because our brains know its not really happening. Him puking was entirely real so it gets a real reaction.
For an actor that Dr. Gordon fellow is the worst liar i've ever seen.
"Saw 7 is by faaar the best" - shakes his head no.
"But... you know i have lots of fans from many different movies" - Shakes his head no again.
He was in "Liar, Liar" after all.
@@chrissawyer1484 Also
"Robin Hood: (idk how it was called further)", it was a Comedy
@@lettuce7539
Men in Tights.
Princess Bride?? That is a CLASSIC
I liked the first two Saw movies because it was genuinely about a madman who wanted to teach people to appreciate their lives. Sure the second one had plot holes and inconsistencies, but it was still a solid Saw movie with a bunch of people who were anything but innocent. I could get behind a twisted villain who didn't think he was doing anything wrong on that basis. And despite the fact that his victims were morally reprehensible, you could still sympathise with them. Like, for example, the black guy in the second movie. Yes, he was a criminal, but he repented/paid for his crimes and wanted to move on. Amanda was just a suicidal junkie with a hard life. It's not like she'd killed anyone ... yet. The blonde chick and Spanish chick in the second movie were only thieves or something. It's not like the audience didn't root for them. And obviously the characters in the first movie were iconic and likeable.
But after those two movies, Jigsaw and his little posse started killing innocent people for no reason. About every other victim was a nobody who, at the very MOST, deserved a slap on the wrist. Unless they were the worst of the worst, like the fat rapist in the ... fifth movie? I don't know anymore. But yeah, when they brought in characters like that, no one gave a shit when they died. Why would we? There was no sense of tension, no suspense, no need for deductions, no horror, no satisfying conclusion; it was just a cluster fuck of gore. The wife burning to death in the last film was absolutely disgusting. They gave her the most grisly and arguably painful death in the entire franchise, when she didn't do anything wrong. Jigsaw _never_ would have done that. I know it was his trap, but the writers/directors lost the plot way before that. They actually _did_ turn Saw into nothing more than mindless torture porn, with an added nonsensical twist at the end of every sequel that screamed, "Look! We're still smart! We're not _just_ about the violence!"
-_______-
kirikakirikakirika in the first film Jigsaw placed a mother and her young daughter in the game faced with a man who was told to shoot them both if her husband didn’t complete the game in time - so I disagree that Jigsaw wouldn’t have mistreated innocent people. Maybe he wouldn’t have used something as harrowing as a brazen bull, but he certainly traumatized two young children (Saw and Saw III) and wantonly threatened their lives.
He also placed an immobilized but still alive guy in with Amanda, and she had to stab into his stomach to get her key - he didn’t have a chance either.
The death of the loyal wife in Saw 3D was particularly nasty, but Cramer was always a psychotic, delusional asshole.
@@steves1015
I said Saw III wasn't really a film I enjoyed. Just the first two. I agree he probably traumatised the wife and daughter in the first film, but didn't it turn out that they were never actually in any danger? It's been a while since I've watched it, but didn't he set it up in such a way that the shooter would be taken out before hurting them? And Amanda's boyfriend, wasn't he also a junkie and her dealer? And he could've lived, Amanda just had to spare him and sacrifice herself. I'm not saying his games weren't unfair, but for the most part you understood where he was coming from. He was wrong and insane, but interesting and understandable. Then with Saw III and everything after ... it just went way down hill.
MF's be writing full-blown essays here in the UA-cam comments
It's magnificent
@spun_home 🤣🤣 best comment ever im dead
Could also argue the two main characters in the first film being punished was unjustified? You got a paparrazi/photographer, and a doctor who actually saves lives or makes them better and should not be punished.
As much as I love Tobin Bell's acting, seeing him with a hoodie and a backwards baseball cap made me laugh. It's like he's pretending to be a teen or something.
*****
wat
Me too. XD It seemed like they were digging into Freddy Krueger territory.
+juppukun Lol same. I'm kinda expecting him to say, "Well, me and my fourth form chums think it would be quite corking if you'd sign over your oil well to the local energy concern."
juppukun "Hello my fellow teenagers."
oh my god, adum, was the vomiting really necessary?
Yeah I clicked off there 😐
@OpGamers Is that the same advice you'd give if Adum decided to graphically illustrate his pee and poop plan with closeups of the organs responsible while performing their respective functions?
@OpGamers So you would watch a closeup of Adum's butthole squeezing out a turd? Interesting.
Yes
@Hecking Bamboozled
Yes. It was completely necessary.
The puke thing is one of the weirdest flex I have ever seen
2012: "There'll be a really shitty reboot in the future."
2017: Oh look a reboot of the Saw series "Jigsaw"
Not a reboot tho it continues the story
“”””””””””””””””””Story”””””””””””””””””””
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Bud please never barf in a vid again
Try it at home!
I literally gagged.
yeah, I mean..i get what he was going for, but it wasn't even funny. just completely grossed out..
Creative Function too deep
@@JM-ft8lw I can't imagine why you would spend all day typing about dog fucking in online internet forums.
Eating while watching the video.
Sees gore:
takes bite of burger
Sees Adam throw up:
bitch im out
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
The actor who plays Hoffman seems like genuinely nice guy. I feel bad for him that the series ended.
he got a cameo in saw x :)
@@leeshapon I call that epic good luck
I usually binge watch yms reviews every so often, and I always forget which is the vomiting one. Glad I have fast reflexes, I don't need to see that more than once.
Same
The Hoffman leaning back and tilting his head "U MAD BRO" interpretation is amazing.
This 10 year old video still holds up, comedy and editing wise. I was 12 back then holy shit
Hell yeah man Adam was way ahead of his time
music is kinda loud but yeah
Is it me, or does the blood in Saw 3D look really pink? I mean, sometimes it's mostly red but just a little discolored, but at the end, it's Danganronpa levels of discolored.
Probably.
It's actually a way to get around the censors.
By desaturating the colour of the blood you can get away with showing so much more blood
It's stupid, but it works and I assume that's why they did it
Saw 7 is a 3d movie you need 3d glasses to see the reds in the faded pink.
Fun fact, Danganronpa’s pink blood was never censorship, it’s a common misconception. It’s actually an intentional stylistic choice. Kodaka said it looked cool and fit the “psycho pop” aesthetics of the game. He even said “the imagery of red blood was kinda meh”
I actually belive that Jigsaw/Hoffman really enjoyed being in these movies.
In the Saw movies there's always a twist.
THE SAME ONE.
*"A"* twist
For all
I default to putting this review on while I work all the time haha, I love the saw movies, and I love these reviews!
Vivziepop I love your art!
Vivziepop Hey you're that person I subscribed to a few days ago because of that cool series trailer
Wow this is a small world owo.
Holy shit, the creator of Hazbin Hotel does the same thing I do with this video.
That's pretty dope.
Didn't expect to find a comment of yours here
I was so pissed when the liar's wife got killed
literally never felt anything for any other of the saw's victims
Before he starred in Diary of a wimpy kid, Rodrick was making deathly choices on who lives or dies!
Omfg i was thinking the same thing
zoo wee mama
Those films are awful.
Mayo I knew the kid in saw vI was rodrick I just knew IT!
Books were alright though.
R.I.P. Chester. I only now knew you were in a fuckin saw movie
Rest In Peace, Chester.
Zech Evans. ПОХУЙ
"use your stomach as a third lung" is always what my vocal instructor said, I guess that's why I always threw up during chorus concerts..
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
Maybe they were just trying to describe how to project your voice with your diaphragm
@@henrynelson9301 I was lying anyway I was never in chorus because I am not gay
I watched all the Saw movies just to watch this review.
My life is a sham.
+MaroonThief DUDE SAME
+coolfunkDJ I watched the review to see if I should watch all the ones after the first, and as it turns out, I've seen them all at some point. talk about unmemorable, huh?
I did the same thing except I really have only seen the first.
I love Chester's death scream scene, sounds like crawling in my skin.
Oz-suka oh that is so sad now.
Blank Paper lol
Oz-suka it gave me a wound that will not heal.
oh boy
This comment did not age well, yiiiikes
Why does the blood look pink in the final saw movie?
They're taking notes from Danganronpa. All the wrong ones, apparently.
Rusted Pickle It's something to do with the red blood not looking as good in 3D
I didn't watch it in 3D tho.
Rusted Pickle I know, but I t was altered, and never changed for the non-3D version.
Danganronpa.
Watched these as a kid, didn’t realize there was a story until now
“Story”
@@NotaUnfamiliar *"s* *t* *o* *r* *y"*
" *S*
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sToRy
I wonder how many people actually took these movies seriously and got upset at the confusing twist, time-lines and plot holes
RIP Chester
But not racist Chester.
Or "Evan"
Amen
Adam Owens. ПОХУЙ
the real Chester would never. he is missed so much.
Poor Linkin Park guy, he almost made it
He tried so hard, and got so far...
we got his suicide on tape ahaha
His character actually survives the trap.
But in the end, it didn't even matter.
@@yooziinsertname5667 tf is wrong with ya
@@themightyranger6321 ikr 😒
Aside from that nasty puking shit, these Saw videos of yours have been very entertaining.
For some reason before watching this video I watched saw and laughed at every death. For example the killing spree thing I laughed throughout the movie theater...and people sorta noticed my laughing soooooo...yeah
its a wet burp not a puke..lol
+Nocturne1501 Or that the movies are just laughably terrible.
+Benjamin Black: no its puke, he puked on himself
Adam Gall I thought it was gross until the guy started talking about bugs while the puking continued. Made me laugh my ass off. puking = gross, puking + off-topic rambling = hilarious. Comedy is weird.
His pectoral muscles would’ve been far too damaged to pull the same trick (hook) twice, all Jigsaw had to do was say, “take your shirt off.”
That kind of scar would never heal enough to be completely hidden-hell, I messed with a scratch on my forehead one time too many, and now it’s got a mark on it for life. Even surgery would leave a mark.
I liked the part where you just started vomiting.
D-Demo senpai..
no.
I was about to start vomiting, good god it was gross.
No, the noises.... The noises!
Trash I don't know who that is. I just liked the part where he started vomiting.
Rest In Peace Chester. Completely forgot he was in saw 3D
Oooh so that's how he died
@@xhantTheFirst really tacky thing to say.
"All you have to do is use your stomach as if it's one of your lungs" WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
Jared Clark it’s the same way you would clear your lungs of phlegm only with your stomach...and vomit! Lol
16:38 - 17:50
R.I.P. Chester Bennington
Ryan Hartwell So that’s how he died. Shame.
@@micahwright5901 welp
I'm going to hell for giggling at that
He tried so hard and got so far..
8:19 my favourite bit of acting in the whole movie.
Straight up the most badass last words
Those two woman talking to eachother.... no joke sound the same. And they kinda look the same.
The Lawrence "I'm a doctor" Gordon scene where he slow claps and slips into his British accent is so iconic.
I feel like Saw would be a really good/horrifying fit for VR.
But then again, maybe that's an absolutely terrible idea, lol.
Brian Hope nah that’s a great idea
Saw doesn’t lend itself to a game very well since the fact that you’re not feeling the pain yourself, and therefore there’s no real conflict
xfritz5375 oh yeah, forgot about that
The anticipation of pain, with no physical feedback could work. If the video game was designed right, like perhaps making choices between characters the player has attachment to. And I don't know how advanced Vive controllers are or anything, but Switch joycon's HD rumble can create illusions of weight, so with the right equipment it would be possible to simulate some thing physical.
Either way it's a terrible idea because if it gets pulled off correctly it would be extremely traumatizing.
That honestly sounds great
Cant wait for YMS: Saw 8 and YMS: Cult of Chucky i knew 2017 was gonna be such a fun YMS year
Oricadia actually saw 8 seems pretty ok. Cult of Chucky is a big question mark as far as I'm concerned.
Edgy Veggie Cult of Chucky was one big ass clusterfuck. Who put that movie on all the drugs? By the way they ended it, it makes it look like they are expecting to make another one. However, I am looking forward to Jigsaw.
shortcake gogh I would love to go and watch Jigsaw but it's R18+ over here so I can't watch it. I'll definitely watch it once it's on blu ray. Or even just an online copy.
Louis Rachmanstein it was alright
Cult was such a clusterfuck especially compared to Curse
9:48 this is why I love your reviews, they are all put together in a way witch makes the whole thing fun to watch, and you addin stuff like this just because, you are my favorite UA-camr.
It's only occurred to me now that Walter White completely stole the whole "M60 on a swivelling turret" thing from Hoffmann.
Sharky McShark lol
17:25 When it's a hot summer day and you're in a leather chair shirtless and you decide to get up
"You better bet there will be a really shitty reboot in the future..."
2017: and here we go!
TrueDTBreezy Adam Predicts the future
it's a sequel, not a reboot.
3 minutes in and the only thing that really got to me was Adam puking on command. Hats off to you guy, that's a nasty cool trick.
something about Cary Elwes not giving a shit about the Saw films makes me like him a lot
LOL WTF I have never seen anyone puke like that. It's like the people that can burp on command but you do it with vomit.
Jigsaw: I just force fed you something poisonous, if you want the antidote you have to cut off your arm.
Adam: **pukes**
Jigsaw: **disgusted face** How did you do that??
Adam: Nope still goin' **bleghhhh**
Jigsaw: ...Please stop.
Adam: **blEGGHHHHH**
Jigsaw: PLEASE JUST LEAVE YOU'RE FREE TO GO
Adam: Still pukin'! **BLEEEGHGHGHHHGH!!** appreciate life more jackass **BLEGHHGHH**
Wait, some people can't burp on command?
@@JustKelso1993 i can't for some reason.
@@Azrielfiend Wow, that is strange. I guess it isn't any different than whistling.
Bro finally someone else who thinks Adam throwing up is funny
I can't whistle but I can burp on command
25:25 "BESTY Russell" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Edited on 2020-01-08:
Over 300 likes? Gee whiz guys, cool stuff! :)
53,000 people have watched this and you were the first to notice it.
YourMovieSucksDOTorg
Thank you, kind sir :)
+Sraigius whats the song name, man?
michaelgtho darude sandstorm
Sraigius Thanks man
0:00 Right, finished my KFC, got some squash to drink, let's watch.
2:25 oh dear god why
Dave-K u drink squash?
What kind of sicko drinks squash after a kfc?!
mmm, cup of squash
You’re literally watching a video about one of the most gruesome horror franchises...and you decide to eat KFC...
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
Watching this knowing that jigsaw came out yesterday laughing at all the promises about saw 3d being the last one.
Srry M8 same lmao
Loool ikr 😂
"This ones the one that's been editing the films from the very beginning." Sounds like a saw twist.
I like the saw movies. That doesn't mean they're good, I just enjoy them
Gross. You can vomit on command
anyone can do it
just have to use your stomach like your lungs :D
Well you could be forcing stomach acid into your throat which will burn it. Not to mention dehydration.
Have to find a way to keep that slender figure
"Men, attack on my command!"
*vomits*
TO BATTLE!!
I don't know what's more horrifying, the traps of the vomiting on command.
Have you ever made yourself burp? Its very similar to that. Its called regurgitating and there's this dude thats famous for doing it with water. He drinks hella water and acts like a human hose 😂😂😂
I had my headphones on...
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
me: *is squeamish to gore that involves ripping off skin*
also me when I have a new scab: *R I P A N D T E A R*
Can we just assume that the pig people with Dr. Gordon are Michael Tapp and Melissa Sing from the Saw games? In the cannon end of the first game we don't find out what happened to Melissa, and at the end of the second we don't know what happened to Michael, so I'm going to assume that they're the ones helping Dr. Gordon
Mickspad According to the director's commentary those two are actually the two guys from the public execution trap at the start of the movie.
BowserTheSecond is there a place to listen to the directors commentary online? I bought the full pack and didn't realize it wasn't included
Mickspad Unfortunately not as far as I know. The next best thing I can suggest is checking info on the Saw Wiki.
I could have sworn detective Tapp killed himself in the game.
@@RosieHip24 His son is the character you play in the second game. In the "canon" ending he lives.
"use your stomach as if it were one of your lungs"
So, how the fuck do you do that?
ikr
You pump it
21:02 I think he's making a valid point. Yes it would be bloody painful to have your throat damaged, but she heard the tape telling her to stay silent! As soon as it finishes, she starts screaming like she WANTS to die! You can see her screaming when the key is out of her mouth as well, so if she stayed silent for that bit, she could have gotten out!
The vomiting was actually the only part of the video I had to look away for.
Be honest.
He looks exactly like the kind of guy who would know how to do that.
@@ZyrusSmith Lol true.
@@ZyrusSmith Are you a bot? You put the exact same comment in response to so many people I've lost count.
25:26 Man I love Besty Russell. What a great actress! Even IGN didn't like her.
She looks really good in that shot tho
The carousel of death is probably the best scene in Saw, period.
How the fuck do you use your stomach as your lungs???
+No One Knows what I'm thinking is try to exhale with a bunch of pressure on your stomach
Oh boy I can't wait for saw XXIV when they reveal there was a team of 100 people working with Jigsaw
_Spiral_ abandoned this overarching overdrawn theme of the later sequels, and instead just established that apparently most unrelated serial killers in the world of _Saw_ function like Jigsaw, because making all these recordings and putting victims in elaborate traps is just so much cooler than killing them on the spot. Even those killers who just want to kill their target without any consideration for giving them a choice or a chance to survive will still go through the trouble of setting up an elaborate trap and the illusion of choice, kind of like what Hoffman did to his first victim only even more elaborate. This isn’t even a plot twist - the movie and even the trailer clearly establish from the very start that the villain is a completely new serial killer, he just chose to kill his victims that way Jigsaw did.