Nord Keyboards "Symphobia Strings" Samples Review and Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @NL355
    @NL355 4 роки тому +2

    As always you know how to make people happy Marc !

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Nico! Thanks for your support - you get what I'm trying to do - thanks for noticing!

  • @MRFThorne
    @MRFThorne 4 роки тому +1

    What beautiful playing, Marc, and great visuals to accompany the music. Bach is heavenly, for sure! :) I hope you enjoyed NAMM 2020; I've been transfixed to the various UA-cam videos that have emerged since then - based on what I've seen, I think Nord Wave 2 looks closer to what I'm after in synth terms than the Roland X synthesiser would be; I see a lot of folk trying out vintage patches with that, but no videos have given any clear indication what the programming capabilities are like. I'm loving the Stage 3 so much (and I've recently uploaded the White Grand - wow, that has to be the best piano sample to date, superseding even the Royal Grand 3D), I think I can safely say I'm a Nord man now! These Symphobia Strings are of exceptional quality. SO much to get excited about!!

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Mark! Thanks so much for your warm compliments. It is rewarding to see you getting to know and love your Stage 3.
      So yes, I think the Wave 2 will be amazing. So much time in the demos so far has been spent on the "synthy stuff" that it can do - and that's awesome for sure. But so much of the sampling/layering capability appears to have been overlooked/overshadowed a bit. I plan on digging this out and refining it for all of us to discover/enjoy over this year. I have this vision of what I'm going to be able to do with the Nord Wave 2 having 4 layers and a sample on each - wow! So yes, a lot to get excited about!! Oh and read my response to Rebecca in the comments here on my future plans...

  • @rebeccadudley7669
    @rebeccadudley7669 4 роки тому +4

    What a relief! My most unpreferred synth sample is those scratchy violins! This is great, and so is the timing. I am covering Led Zeppelin this month and this will go well with "Kashmir"!!! :D

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Rebecca! Wow, covering Kashmir - that should be fun! For those, you'll want a nice tight sustain (or very little sustain) and fast attack and just a touch of reverb. It's almost as if the bow of the strings is barely touching to make the sound. I'm sure there's a name for that, but I never played strings 😊 Oh, and I still have the Cars song on my list - it's getting closer... Thanks for stopping by!

    • @rebeccadudley7669
      @rebeccadudley7669 4 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic You Betcha! Hey, you said at about 2:14 you were going to sometime in the future make a vid on loading a sample. Is that going to include a comprehensive on the Nord Sample Editor? I hope so. I like your other video on it and refer to it from time to time. You mentioned you could make an hour video on just the Sample Editor. I am sure I am not the only one who would appreciate it if you did :) Great videos, always, Cars or not, its all good!

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      ​@@rebeccadudley7669 Oh you pay attention! Yes, I'm going to be doing a few things here related to your questions:
      I'll be making a brand new video on how to download a sample and configure that in the Sound Manager. I'll be doing a separate video for downloading pianos too. I plan to demonstrate on both platforms and point out all the bear traps with that. I need a quick video to point to people when the question comes up "how do I load a sample into the keyboard?"
      Then, I'll be making a free "mini-course" called "Master the Nord Sample Editor 3" available only at www.MyKeysToMusic.com so that I have the power and flexibility to switch out lessons as the application evolves and as I get better at making samples. People are going to have a million ideas here and this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to working with samples. And with the Nord Wave 2 on the way featuring 1 GB of sample space, people are going to go nuts with all this stuff. So, I want to be ahead of the curve and present the free course so that people can get the best education on it possible. Then later when they're ready, they may benefit from taking one of the paid courses for either the Nord Stage 3, the Nord Electro 5/6 and a future course planned for the Nord Wave 2. That's the "secret" master plan for now. 😊Now I just need a clone...

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      On second thought, I realized I already have a comprehensive series of videos on how to update the OS, download and work the Nord samples and sample library, the Nord Piano library and the Nord Sound Manager here: ua-cam.com/play/PLvND2qkkWygoQCy9WDSx3w6XBM-9e4Lkz.html So, for now at least, I'm calling that good.

  • @playnamz78
    @playnamz78 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Marc, excellent videos as usual! I really enjoy your patient teacher's approach in your videos. I have 2 questions for you regarding sample/programs:
    1) Did you find the default string samples lacking/artificial as I did? I tried to build some patch for Christian devotional playing (Grand + Strings) but they just sounded uninspiring, but I'd like to use something other than just "Soft Pad" for my pads. Or did you tweak parameters and find them useful for your purposes? (I think we've got similar genre)
    2) Were there any batch of programs/samples that you removed as you began loading your NS3 with patches/samples you like? I ask because I downloaded Symphobia as well as other official Nord patches they put out like C3P0, etc. but there's NO ROOM and I have to offboard sounds first before I can even try these... I understand it's purely personal taste and you can always reset, but being a new owner myself (got it in Feb!) I'm trying not to overhaul my board. Insights appreciated!

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Eric K. Sorry for the delay on this response here. Let me try to answer these:
      1) Some of the original strings are not nearly as good as the Symphobia ones but with tweaking, you can enhance just about any sample starting point. I tend to play with the envelope, frequency cutoff and envelope a bit which can make an impact one way or another.
      2) I tend to open up the Nord Sound Manager and sort from largest sample to smallest. I remove a lot of the larger ones that I don't need. If you start with the larger ones first, you have less overall to remove to make room for the new stuff. I also tend to setup the keyboard based on if I'm using it for a gig versus something in the studio. Technically speaking, if your needs were vastly different between occasions, you could create an entire backup and then restore from that backup based on the what you need to do on a given day.
      Hopefully this provided some perspective for you. Good luck with your setups and thanks for watching!

    • @playnamz78
      @playnamz78 4 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic Thank you Marc, will try that for strings. I did do offload big samples and was able to put in 2 producers patches!

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Awesome to hear that Eric!

  • @mdahl
    @mdahl 4 роки тому +1

    Sounded great! Thanks for posting.

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Thanks mdahl! And thanks for stopping by. 👍

  • @recordlabeldao7820
    @recordlabeldao7820 4 роки тому +1

    I have 4 of these new sound its some music i play and these are so good that i have download them to my electro and i didnt needed to delete some sound :)

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Wow, that's great news Akmusicbassman! Glad you had room on your Electro. Easy enough to delete existing samples if you needed to.

    • @recordlabeldao7820
      @recordlabeldao7820 4 роки тому +1

      My Keys To Music yup i like the sound of nords ive never had any problems or issue with the keyboard and i had the leyboard 1year and 3 month and no issue someone get issues and alot keyboardist dont get problems at all

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      @@recordlabeldao7820 I've had a similar experience. (I have owned or still own 5 Nord keyboards) which have all been free from any defects. According to the numerous people that come across this channel, it seems that the quality is mostly good. But yes, there are stories of people with various hardware issues here and there. In all the cases that I've heard about, the issues got resolved eventually either with the merchant who sold the keyboard or with Clavia directly. Hard to say if the issues come over time or as a result of something that happened during shipment. Software issues do happen from time to time which tend to be addressed fairly quickly with regular OS updates. Thanks for sharing your experience here!

    • @recordlabeldao7820
      @recordlabeldao7820 4 роки тому +1

      My Keys To Music it can be they never have update the nord os software and OS system are their to solve the issues and the first thing i say its try to update the software before ever send them back

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      @@recordlabeldao7820 You could be right!

  • @mikecampbell6938
    @mikecampbell6938 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, very beautiful sounds

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Yes Mike - I agree, they sound nice in this combo.

  • @heikohass
    @heikohass 3 роки тому

    Thanks Marc, I built this combination and it sounds great. It is inspiring for me as I am not the big sound developer for far ;-) Gre Heiko

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  3 роки тому +1

      Well done Heiko! It's very rewarding for me to know that you can use these tips and duplicate them on your end so that you can take your journey of learning and inspiration/fun to the next level. Bravo! Continue to enjoy your Nord keyboard!

  • @monsterjazzlicks
    @monsterjazzlicks 4 роки тому +1

    Cheers Marc, I was not aware of this recent release.

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Monsterjazzlicks! Ya, I'm on the email list that I signed up for on the Nord Website. So the news rolls in right away. It makes it good for a guy like me with a channel so I can bring the news to the people in my own way. Cheers!

  • @instrumentalistjade8367
    @instrumentalistjade8367 3 роки тому +1

    Hope Nord will provide a good sax and trumpet sounds

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  3 роки тому

      Hello @instrumentalist Jade (long time no hear!). Unfortunately, sax and trumpet are some of the hardest instruments to imitate well via samples and such. But have you already seen this one where I demonstrated a "somewhat decent" tenor sax on the Nord Stage 3? ua-cam.com/video/37Mcow0Kzfk/v-deo.html Thanks for stopping by... 🎷

  • @elwafi2001
    @elwafi2001 2 роки тому +1

    Hi There, I’m wondering if you can share a bundle of program that will work with my recently purchased Nord piano 5, I’ll really appreciate it! Thanks 🙏 in advance,

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  2 роки тому

      Hello @elwafi2001 I would have a look here for some bundles with your Nord Piano 5: www.synthonia.com/marketplace/nord/piano-series I'm not sure if there are others, but this is the place I would start. You can take a look around at the Nord User Forum to see if you can find more info there.

  • @jpag57
    @jpag57 4 роки тому +1

    You had me at Bach. 🎹🎵👍🏻

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Hi Jean-Pierre Garau. Yes, I think this piece demonstrates the breadth of the strings sample well. Thanks for watching

  • @aaronbarber6238
    @aaronbarber6238 4 роки тому +1

    Okay then! Time to make some space, these samples sound great.

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Yup! I found that I was only loading one or two at a time and that helped. Easy enough to download the entire package from the website and then just switch them out on the fly in the Nord Sound Manager while testing them out.

  • @lucasmonteiro8153
    @lucasmonteiro8153 3 роки тому +1

    How can I get the chords/notes from this songs??

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  3 роки тому

      Hi @Lucas monteiro You can find the music I used right here: www.8notes.com/scores/19133.asp

  • @MarkoPejcic
    @MarkoPejcic 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you! 🙏

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Happy to do it, Marko! Thanks for your comment. Hey, nice name... 😊

    • @MarkoPejcic
      @MarkoPejcic 4 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic Hah! Thanks! Cheers!

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 3 роки тому

    quite beautiful.

  • @haarman77
    @haarman77 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful

  • @undisclosedundisclosed7247
    @undisclosedundisclosed7247 4 роки тому

    Marc - l am totally new to the Nord Stage 3. Can samples from other providers such as EastWest be loaded into the Nord Stage 3? If so, and I hope so, will you cover how to do that on you upcoming video on loading samples into Nord products?

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Hello there. You are one of the few people that spell my name with a "c" - thanks for noticing the details! So, first sorry for the delay on this post and welcome to the world of the Nord Stage 3! Samples from other providers cannot be played directly on the Nord Stage 3. The sample format is proprietary to Nord. However, if you can manage to get the samples in an AIFF or WAV format, you could technically load them up using the Nord Sample Editor 3 software and then assign them to keys and a program on your Nord. Now, they may not be exactly the same in the end - especially if add'l velocity settings were pre-programmed into the samples, but it will be a good place to start. Thanks for watching and enjoy the discovery! 🎼

    • @undisclosedundisclosed7247
      @undisclosedundisclosed7247 4 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic Thanks Marc. Truly appreciated. Strange to me, and a little disappointing, that Nord would not more simply accommodate samples from other providers for such a top-of-the line keyboard. I can understand how a proprietary forma protects Nord samples to remain on their devices, but why not let samples from other providers be easily loaded and used to make beautiful music on a beautiful keyboard. It would be interesting to know their rationale for that decision. I'll play around and see how some .WAV format files work converted through the Nord Sample Editor software and let others here know the outcome for their benefit.

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      @@undisclosedundisclosed7247 It could be a matter of resources relative to reward. Clavia is a much smaller company than let's say Korg, Yamaha, or Roland and as a result, they probably do what they can within the confines of their size. They also pick their battles too. For example, they don't really fully explore certain aspects of their MIDI connectivity such as the ability to send a master clock signal out through MIDI and there is no audio out option with USB either. So, I think they lean their ladder on a given wall and head in that direction. For Clavia/Nord, I think the ladder is to focus on what a piano/organ/synth player needs in terms of overall sound quality, playability, and performance-oriented features by having all knobs/buttons on the top etc. Now, by me saying this, I'm making some gross assumptions because I don't' know for sure, but I assume (like with any product today), decisions and features are created one way or another based on a series of factors. Allowing for other third party samples to be used means they have to also support that too and that could lead to a long list of unknown variables in the mix as nice as that theory is on paper. I agree with what you're saying here, and I (like many others) indulge in looking for possible reasons why" something exists or not. I keep a personal list of wish list items for Clavia on this end. I'll add this to it.

  • @whittle1961
    @whittle1961 4 роки тому

    strings not a patch on the Kronos Kurt Ader pack, sound a bit synthetic

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Hi Andy. Are you saying that the strings on the Nord or the Kronos sound synthetic? On a side note, this guy (Kurt Ader) has some great sounding stuff: ua-cam.com/video/l_xEZSj84qk/v-deo.html

    • @whittle1961
      @whittle1961 4 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic yes.. compared to the Kurt Ader packs for the Kronos

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      ah yes. Well the Kurt Ader packs sound great from the little that I've seen on UA-cam already on this.

  • @ChristianDanvill
    @ChristianDanvill 4 роки тому +1

    Perfect

  • @albertfabregat9051
    @albertfabregat9051 4 роки тому +4

    Great samples! But in my opinion Clavia should put bigger ROM on their products. Why big memory for piano patches, some of them very similar to each other and not enough room for samples? Even I erased all the samples of non-keyboard patches (guitars, bases, etc...) There's not enough ROM to put samples. I'd love to give a try to that symphobia strings, but I'm afraid I should erase a big amount of other useful samples....

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +4

      Hi Albert. The bigger the new samples get, the more you realize that you have to "compromise" other samples in order to use them. So, I have to agree with you on this. The upcoming Wave 2 has a 1GB of memory which will help new users but there needs to be a way to "expand" this somehow for the older keyboards (or create something in a future OS that finds a way to further compress the samples down). I don't know if there is an easy answer for this, but I do agree that it certainly would be convenient to have more room for samples.
      Today, I find myself making "Backups" / "Bundles" to save my live performance sounds (the ones I use for gigs) so that I have them ready and saved. This then gives me the ability to completely wipe my programs/samples so that I can experiment with them for the UA-cam channel. That has worked out pretty well so far, but it would be nice not to have to do that. I'll mention this technique when I do a new video on how to "download samples sounds into your Nord keyboard" coming up soon. 😎

    • @albertfabregat9051
      @albertfabregat9051 4 роки тому +2

      @@MyKeysToMusic I'd do the same: bundles.... But I'm afraid these strings are going to sound incredible in a studio situation, but you know, as you explained on the video about piano sample sizes, it won't cut through the mix in a live set where you have to struggle with furious guitar players!

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому +2

      @@albertfabregat9051 I agree. I already have the sense that these strings won't cut through in a live band setting. Even the regular strings samples sometimes have a hard time until you tweak the EQ a little. Sometimes the prettier the sample, the less it cuts through. Must be a sound/physics thing. But I definitely get what you're saying and someone else brought up this very same thing on my FaceBook page. I think it's hard for people to fully appreciate this notion unless they play regularly in a band/live setting with "furious guitar players" 😊

    • @playnamz78
      @playnamz78 4 роки тому

      I agree. all excited to try different sounds and BAMN, no room (in Samples)whatsoever to download new sounds! (2.7MB free - you kidding me?!) Hope Clavia develops a way to add ROM...

  • @hot88s23
    @hot88s23 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds far superior to the stock factory strings

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      Hey Hot 88s - long time no hear! (Your last post was about 5 months ago). I agree - in many ways the new sounds are better than the original stock strings for sure. However, the stock strings have their place for straight pad-type sounds that may cut through better in a live setting. Time will tell. Haven't tried them live yet and the groups I play in don't call from string sounds. They certainly do the trick on the classical stuff and they were born to work with movie scores/symphonic environments out of the box.

    • @hot88s23
      @hot88s23 4 роки тому

      @@MyKeysToMusic Yes, I was off for a while. It was hard to remain excited over spending so much on an instrument that was not making me any money. I've programmed a total of 1 song in 'Song' mode. (quite by accident, I'm sure)
      How do I access certain 'Sample' sounds when I want to create a split or layer?

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  4 роки тому

      @@hot88s23 Welcome back! Have a look at this video. It explains splitting two samples. After watching this, you likely understand how to split your keyboard and then how to select a given sample as well: ua-cam.com/video/72jPR9LZUG8/v-deo.html. Good luck!

  • @robertmichalscheck3072
    @robertmichalscheck3072 3 роки тому

    Talk,talk,talk,talk

    • @MyKeysToMusic
      @MyKeysToMusic  3 роки тому

      Hello @Robert Michalscheck Yes, the demo part of the video starts at ua-cam.com/video/HN9WJNmkUKk/v-deo.html I've also just included chapter markers directly in the video for those who don't enjoy my longish pre-amble and wish to scrub directly to the meat of the video.

    • @robertmichalscheck3072
      @robertmichalscheck3072 3 роки тому +1

      @@MyKeysToMusic okay,thx