I loved this interview and look forward to reading "The Best Minds." I am 64 years old and came from a long family lineage of mental illness. When I was 13, I started having depressive episodes. As I aged, the episodes became deeper and strong suicidal ideation set in. I was in and out of mental hospitals for about 10 years. I was in what was considered good psychiatric hospitals and had many court ordered stays in state psychiatric hospitals. I have had 2 very serious suicide attempts. My father hung himself at 52. My mother died young, as I believe her extreme manic depressive episodes just had worn her body out. If it hadn't been for my husband, I know I would of been dead a long time ago. He was my strength and advocated for me to get the help I needed. At 23, I was diagnosed with manic depression. My manias were mild, but the depression was what I called the cancer of my soul. My anxiety attacks I referred to as horses charging through my chest. We eventually found a very skilled psychiatrist, and for many years now, while taking a particular psychiatric medication, I live a very happy and sane life. I still see that same doctor. I have 2 wonderful sons and a wonderful daughter-in-law. My marriage has endured, and we celebrated our 40th wedding anniversary in May. I live a life I never imagined. So Jonathan's story really touched me. I have traveled some rough roads searching for sanity. I am so sorry that Jonathan's friends story ended so tragically. Our current mental health care in America is so flawed and incompetent. I, too, see the mentally ill on the street. That could be me as well.
I am the mother of a person who is severely bipolar and by the grace of God we had a superior psychiatrist and he was with us until he retired last year. I am sure we have the same stories except his manic episodes were explosive. Without our psychiatrist we would not still have him 50 years later. Our mental health system is useless.
@lindaartz3297 I agree. It's sad, too, because there are so many medications that can be tried now. Compared to years ago when treatment options were so limited. I believe that if my father had better medications available to him, he would not of killed himself. If my mother had been medicated with Lithium sooner than she did, she would of lived longer. Mental health treatment is so limited. Psychiatrist hospitalizations are limited to just a few days of insurance coverage. I know for myself that I pay for all my psychiatric expenses. My insurance basically only covers the cost of medication. I thank the good Lord every morning and night for the sanity I have now.
We had to pay our way too. Insurance did not cover anything but medical blood levels or medical tests our family Dr could order. We were fortunate that we did finally get Rx coverage. We did Baker act one time and dug up the money for a private hospital. I’m am now widowed and lead a very simple life but have no regrets that we didn’t have a big retirement fund because he is now mid d 50’s and has a wonderful relationship with a woman who was widowed with 3 kids that are nearly grown and they love him to death and are happy he is in their life. He is also experiencing having family experiences, like filling up a teenager after football practice and working the snack bar during games. Just writing this gives me a lift today because he was in a few of the early studies of bipolar and one of the Dr conducting one of the studies told us we’d be lucky to still have him at 25. It was rough at times but at 76 when I have a family cook out and he has a family who loves my daughters family and they are all in the yard having so much fun it brings a tear.
😓 My sister was Affective Schizophrenic- she was both bi-polar and schizophrenic. Her life was very hard and she made life for her sons, daughters in law, our parents, her grandchildren, her brother, and myself hard too. She never had to live on the street, but she did. Because of that experience, she understood people on the streets. She was the most generous person! She once gave away brand new athletic shoes to someone. She wore that persons ugly shoes instead. She had so many good qualities. I choose to remember the good things about her. She hated taking her medicine… I love my sister forever and ever.😢
I listened to Klavan's interview with Mr. Rosen when it aired as part of the show and knew that I would have to read his book. I reserved it at the library and it arrived yesterday. I could not put it down until I finished it this afternoon. It was spellbinding. It is the story of friendship and families, but more importantly a portrait of an era with all of its politics and cultural interests which conditioned the responses of those around Michael Laudor as he succumbed to his first psychotic episode and then returned to Yale Law School. The book's clear explanations of the cultural and political forces that informed the law faculty's understanding of mental illness and recovery are so important to the reader because they show how the faculty's "best intentions" led to Laudor's completely mismanaged care and the terrible tragedy of his fiancée's murder.
I grew up with a mother who was paranoid schizophrenic and I can attest to how frightening it could be as a small child. She went through shock therapy in the early 60's and then was medicated fir the balance of her life after that. She would be in a mental facility about every 18 months. Later in life I had a friend who's wife had the same illness and she attempted to kill her husband and children on several occasions. I had no idea growing up how much danger we were in.
"The Myth of Mental Illness" and the "Manufacture of Madness" by Thomas Szaz had me hooked. Decades later, mental illness in my family brought me back to reality. A family memeber was hospitalized after an aggressive psychotic incident. Hospital staff followed protocol in getting his permission before even the smallest things. But how could he do that when he wasn't living in the "real world"? His paranoia was directed at me, his next of kin and caretaker after a brain injury, so he wouldn't give permission for anyone to communicate with me. I couldn't even give them useful information about what had happened since his childhood. They could not communicate with me about his diagnosis, medication, or directions for taking the meds--even though he needed me to supervise all this.
After beating this drum for a few years, I am so grateful that Jonathan Rosen could bring more attention to this issue with his writing. It is NOT a homelessness issue, it is a mental illness issue! And so long as we use the term "mental health," no one will take the issue seriously. The current mindset of DEI is contributing even more to the mental illness problem. You can't help mental illness with equity or view severe mental illness as an example of diversity.
One of the best interviews I've ever heard. Love to hear a several hour long discussion between you--there's so much more I want to learn from your interaction on these topics.
I actually love the new intro. Don't get me wrong, I'd wear a Tickety-boo t-shirt. Great interview. An interviewer / host sitting quietly soaking up the answer to a question is rare. I lost a friend to lack of regard for the reality of their illness. It is a very hard problem with few good answers available. His friends that confronted the reality where shunned in favor of those who ignored reality or played along with my friend's altered reality. From my experience, I would tell anyone going through this to as a friend group, assign one or two people that deal with the ill person as if their reality is aligned with actual reality. That way you can keep in touch and give help where necessary.
The advent of the age of psychotherapy was the single most damaging notion ever inflicted on individuals suffering from psychotic, or neurotic disorders. There was the conviction that anyone could be psychoanalyzed out of any mental illness if the causative mechanisms occurring in childhood could be identified and dealt with on a conscious level. It wasn’t true, of course, but it led to many years of absolutely useless and ineffective treatment. Schizophrenia is a horrifying illness striking its victims in late teens and early adulthood. It must have been terrifying before the time of recognition of the physical causes. It remains a difficult illness to treat on a consistent level and many patients live their lives coming in and out of acute care for psychotic episodes usually resulting from poor compliance with their medication regimens. Some are just not amenable to medication and even those who are, are subject to often very unpleasant side effects. Such people have my profound sympathy, it is a truly awful disease.
The biggest issue with 'psycho-therapy' is the notion that all mental illness is emotional and it never addresses the idea that many causes are physical
It makes perfect sense to promote "The House of Love and Death" but I just finished the "Another Kingdom" trilogy and loved it! More people need to know about that series.
Thank you, Mr. Rosen for sharing this tragic story from the view of a friend. Heartbreaking on every front. "There was such a romantic embrace of the idea of madness, especially in the 60s when the policies changed the laws that helped create the system that failed Michael when he most needed help. They elevated madness to a plane of being." How descriptive of the current approach to "trans-ideology." And the description of liberals without a grasp of God' take on Michael as a mystic - brilliantly perceptive. I love the new theme music and look, Andrew. 😉
Thanks for the interview, Andrew. Going to read this book. I truly hope you have him on for a longer discussion. You ended things on a fascinating note!
I've never heard from another a story like my own. I too was diagnosed with schizophrenia, but for me it was a life saver to get OFF medication. Had I continued with that poison it's likely I would have taken my own life.
Yeah, I hardly think things have "worked out". Forgive me I know you mean well. But unless you think that a grown man being reduced to tears, sobbing worse than a small child for the last year has been "working out", then it's only because you have the wrong impression. I'm just saying that this so called "medicine" would have probably shortened my life by 25 years. It left me feeling empty, without meaning during the short time that it was forced on me. Please take no offense. The only reason I'm still around, and I'm surprised by the fact that I am, is because I'm a rebellious bastard that refuses to die. I want to die, especially now for the last year, but I will not do it by my own hand. I've never attempted suicide, but when they put me on that stuff about 25 years ago I certainly thought about it. Something did happen about a year ago today that has devastated me...right down to the bone of my soul. I put a knife to my heart, not with the intention of taking my life but rather demonstrating to God that He had sunken to a new low....He had delivered the final death blow to my heart, my will to live. But I shall not die by my own hand. I'm too ornery to do that. But had I been on that sh*t they put me on as a young man I don't think I'd be singing the same tune. I think it could be the fear of God that keeps me hanging around I'm not sure. The only thing that I am sure of, the ONLY thing that I want, is to see her again...to hold her in my arms once more. God is the orchestrator of my sorrow, and only God can redeem me. Every day is as painful as the first day I found out. But that crap they put into me isn't going to help one iota
I'm bi-polar and found that state meds were far worse than the condition (i refuse to call it a disease) My condition is relatively mild thank god so now i just accept going thru my "A$$h0le phase"
Not going to lie, I love E-books, because they're way cheaper than buying the physical copy, and you don't have to find somewhere to put them when you are done reading them.
Boo to daily wire for not putting member content on the DW website and their support team not having a clue regarding missing member content. Why should platforms that hate conservatives get priority?
I'm only seven minutes in but I'd like to make a note at this point. Lots of stories have the theme of having difficulty understanding what's really going on, it's hard to separate fantasy from reality. Jacob's Ladder, Sixth Sense, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Fight Club, Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance to name a few, but I'm sure there are many more.
I bought the book and it was as good as advertised. The only problem - I am watching the show Mr. Robot at the same time. I started to wonder if I was schizophrenic . I would fall asleep and a whole episode went by and I was unaware!
how arrogant and irrational it is to think you could possibly know what another person is thinking precisely, even a most skilled fbi profiler or psychologist does not possess telepathy
What about adult guardianship? I know from personal experience that it's much easier simply to pay a forensic phychiatrist simply legally and medically someone incapable of making correct decisions and acting in their own best interests than to prove them a danger to themselves and others? One great advantage is you can persuade the judge the person can't even defend themselves legally because of their certified legal incompetence. i
Actually, although my diagnosis is autism rather than scizophrenia and I have and my academic degrees are in History rather than economic and law, I related strongly to Mr .Lauder. Indeed, I've displayed some of the same symptoms as Mr .Lauder and the other schizophrenics described by Mr.Rosen. (which is why doctors have frequently misdiagnosed autistic patients as szizophrenics.
Not to detract from this video - but perhaps we now know what Andrew would look like with hair. I can't believe how similar the two of them favor one another.
Great interview, Andrew. It's a feather in your cap that this guy Rosen is spending half an hour with you. Because he really is very brilliant. But so was Foucault. And I know something about this subject, both from personal experience and from study. And I'm sorry to say, both Rosen and Foucault got it wrong. "Mental illness," so called, is neither primarily a "social construct"--though there is a great deal of truth in Foucault's argument. Nor is it primarily a "chemical imbalance" like diabetes--though if you go crazy, naturally there are going to be some chemical changes that result. Duh. Instead, the real essence of "mentail illness" is a spiritual problem. And the only real, true answer to the pain--and sometimes the danger--of such an altered state is acknowledging that spiritual reality. As for the notion that madness--or "mental illness" if you like--is ever the cause of murder: Sorry, but I'm not buying it. It's a dynamite fairytale, of course. Just the thing for Hollywood. People always buy tickets to see that kind of crap. The "psycho-thriller" is one of America's most boffo show-biz inventions. But the data simply does not support such a notion. On the contrary, it has long been well established that people who are judged "mentally ill" are much less likely to victimize other people than people who are judged "sane." Very rarely there are gray areas. If you really and truly believe that the FedEx driver is a secret assassin sent by Duchess Meghan and Hubby Harry to murder you for knowing too much about them, then that might get you a little bit of sympathy when you are arrested and tried for stabbing the poor schmuck to death in "self defense." But ultimately, murder is murder. And you should be found guilty as sin regardless of what the shrinks want the jury to believe.
Just more proof that Focault provides nothing at all of value for mankind. What does this mean? That all of the intersectional philosophy and wokeism, being downstream from Focault is completely void of value even as a lens for viewing itself.
Do these people read something other than bombastic summaries of Focault? In my opinion neither has read Focault qua Focault. And is psychophrenia and belief based not on materialistic experience (in other words Faith) that different? Torqumeda's Faith certainly led to a lot of deaths. This clip should be entitled how Faith Trumps Psychophrenia!!!
I loved this interview and look forward to reading "The Best Minds."
I am 64 years old and came from a long family lineage of mental illness.
When I was 13, I started having depressive episodes. As I aged, the episodes became deeper and strong suicidal ideation set in.
I was in and out of mental hospitals for about 10 years. I was in what was considered good psychiatric hospitals and had many court ordered stays in state psychiatric hospitals.
I have had 2 very serious suicide attempts. My father hung himself at 52. My mother died young, as I believe her extreme manic depressive episodes just had worn her body out.
If it hadn't been for my husband, I know I would of been dead a long time ago. He was my strength and advocated for me to get the help I needed.
At 23, I was diagnosed with manic depression. My manias were mild, but the depression was what I called the cancer of my soul. My anxiety attacks I referred to as horses charging through my chest.
We eventually found a very skilled psychiatrist, and for many years now, while taking a particular psychiatric medication, I live a very happy and sane life. I still see that same doctor.
I have 2 wonderful sons and a wonderful daughter-in-law. My marriage has endured, and we celebrated our 40th wedding anniversary in May. I live a life I never imagined.
So Jonathan's story really touched me. I have traveled some rough roads searching for sanity. I am so sorry that Jonathan's friends story ended so tragically.
Our current mental health care in America is so flawed and incompetent. I, too, see the mentally ill on the street. That could be me as well.
Thank you for sharing! God bless.
@@cdfatlanta9841 Thanks so much. God bless you as well.
I am the mother of a person who is severely bipolar and by the grace of God we had a superior psychiatrist and he was with us until he retired last year. I am sure we have the same stories except his manic episodes were explosive. Without our psychiatrist we would not still have him 50 years later. Our mental health system is useless.
@lindaartz3297 I agree. It's sad, too, because there are so many medications that can be tried now. Compared to years ago when treatment options were so limited.
I believe that if my father had better medications available to him, he would not of killed himself.
If my mother had been medicated with Lithium sooner than she did, she would of lived longer.
Mental health treatment is so limited. Psychiatrist hospitalizations are limited to just a few days of insurance coverage. I know for myself that I pay for all my psychiatric expenses. My insurance basically only covers the cost of medication.
I thank the good Lord every morning and night for the sanity I have now.
We had to pay our way too. Insurance did not cover anything but medical blood levels or medical tests our family Dr could order. We were fortunate that we did finally get Rx coverage. We did Baker act one time and dug up the money for a private hospital. I’m am now widowed and lead a very simple life but have no regrets that we didn’t have a big retirement fund because he is now mid d 50’s and has a wonderful relationship with a woman who was widowed with 3 kids that are nearly grown and they love him to death and are happy he is in their life. He is also experiencing having family experiences, like filling up a teenager after football practice and working the snack bar during games. Just writing this gives me a lift today because he was in a few of the early studies of bipolar and one of the Dr conducting one of the studies told us we’d be lucky to still have him at 25. It was rough at times but at 76 when I have a family cook out and he has a family who loves my daughters family and they are all in the yard having so much fun it brings a tear.
😓 My sister was Affective Schizophrenic- she was both bi-polar and schizophrenic. Her life was very hard and she made life for her sons, daughters in law, our parents, her grandchildren, her brother, and myself hard too. She never had to live on the street, but she did. Because of that experience, she understood people on the streets. She was the most generous person! She once gave away brand new athletic shoes to someone. She wore that persons ugly shoes instead. She had so many good qualities. I choose to remember the good things about her. She hated taking her medicine… I love my sister forever and ever.😢
I listened to Klavan's interview with Mr. Rosen when it aired as part of the show and knew that I would have to read his book. I reserved it at the library and it arrived yesterday. I could not put it down until I finished it this afternoon. It was spellbinding. It is the story of friendship and families, but more importantly a portrait of an era with all of its politics and cultural interests which conditioned the responses of those around Michael Laudor as he succumbed to his first psychotic episode and then returned to Yale Law School. The book's clear explanations of the cultural and political forces that informed the law faculty's understanding of mental illness and recovery are so important to the reader because they show how the faculty's "best intentions" led to Laudor's completely mismanaged care and the terrible tragedy of his fiancée's murder.
I grew up with a mother who was paranoid schizophrenic and I can attest to how frightening it could be as a small child. She went through shock therapy in the early 60's and then was medicated fir the balance of her life after that. She would be in a mental facility about every 18 months. Later in life I had a friend who's wife had the same illness and she attempted to kill her husband and children on several occasions. I had no idea growing up how much danger we were in.
My mother had schizophrenia. She was medicated to the point of nearly being a zombie. But she had her episodes that terrified me as a child.
"The Myth of Mental Illness" and the "Manufacture of Madness" by Thomas Szaz had me hooked. Decades later, mental illness in my family brought me back to reality. A family memeber was hospitalized after an aggressive psychotic incident. Hospital staff followed protocol in getting his permission before even the smallest things. But how could he do that when he wasn't living in the "real world"? His paranoia was directed at me, his next of kin and caretaker after a brain injury, so he wouldn't give permission for anyone to communicate with me. I couldn't even give them useful information about what had happened since his childhood. They could not communicate with me about his diagnosis, medication, or directions for taking the meds--even though he needed me to supervise all this.
After beating this drum for a few years, I am so grateful that Jonathan Rosen could bring more attention to this issue with his writing. It is NOT a homelessness issue, it is a mental illness issue! And so long as we use the term "mental health," no one will take the issue seriously. The current mindset of DEI is contributing even more to the mental illness problem. You can't help mental illness with equity or view severe mental illness as an example of diversity.
One of the best interviews I've ever heard. Love to hear a several hour long discussion between you--there's so much more I want to learn from your interaction on these topics.
Have him back! I could have listen to that all day
I actually love the new intro. Don't get me wrong, I'd wear a Tickety-boo t-shirt.
Great interview. An interviewer / host sitting quietly soaking up the answer to a question is rare.
I lost a friend to lack of regard for the reality of their illness. It is a very hard problem with few good answers available. His friends that confronted the reality where shunned in favor of those who ignored reality or played along with my friend's altered reality. From my experience, I would tell anyone going through this to as a friend group, assign one or two people that deal with the ill person as if their reality is aligned with actual reality. That way you can keep in touch and give help where necessary.
The advent of the age of psychotherapy was the single most damaging notion ever inflicted on individuals suffering from psychotic, or neurotic disorders. There was the conviction that anyone could be psychoanalyzed out of any mental illness if the causative mechanisms occurring in childhood could be identified and dealt with on a conscious level. It wasn’t true, of course, but it led to many years of absolutely useless and ineffective treatment. Schizophrenia is a horrifying illness striking its victims in late teens and early adulthood. It must have been terrifying before the time of recognition of the physical causes. It remains a difficult illness to treat on a consistent level and many patients live their lives coming in and out of acute care for psychotic episodes usually resulting from poor compliance with their medication regimens. Some are just not amenable to medication and even those who are, are subject to often very unpleasant side effects. Such people have my profound sympathy, it is a truly awful disease.
The biggest issue with 'psycho-therapy' is the notion that all mental illness is emotional and it never addresses the idea that many causes are physical
Responsibility and integrity are so much more important than intelligence.
Klavan's by far my favorite Daily Wire host but I've always seen his interviews as pointless. HOT DAMN, this one's exceptional. Thank you.
The last 5 minutes of this discussion blew my mind. Thank you again.
Made me wish they expanded more on it.
@@asamtaviajando8388We absolutely need a longer conversation between these two.
It makes perfect sense to promote "The House of Love and Death" but I just finished the "Another Kingdom" trilogy and loved it! More people need to know about that series.
Thank you, Mr. Rosen for sharing this tragic story from the view of a friend. Heartbreaking on every front.
"There was such a romantic embrace of the idea of madness, especially in the 60s when the policies changed the laws that helped create the system that failed Michael when he most needed help. They elevated madness to a plane of being." How descriptive of the current approach to "trans-ideology."
And the description of liberals without a grasp of God' take on Michael as a mystic - brilliantly perceptive.
I love the new theme music and look, Andrew. 😉
Thanks for the interview, Andrew. Going to read this book. I truly hope you have him on for a longer discussion. You ended things on a fascinating note!
A brilliant and fascinating interview. Thank you, Andrew.
"Hard to get motivated,Hard to articulate anything" that sounds like Bi-Polar as well
I feel the hunky dunky song could be a good way to end each video. Keep classy klavan while preserving our cherished tickety boo
Exactly. The original theme song is his brand and it’s pretty sad that it isn’t a part of the show anymore.
Why isn’t it part of the show anymore?
I miss it too! 😭
@@LazyStarrfishCorporate bosses?
This is the intro Klavan deserves, cuz he's cool like that. Buuuut I do miss the old one
Fascinating discussion. Ty
Audible should give drew a commission for all the books I’ve purchased through his recommendations
I've never heard from another a story like my own.
I too was diagnosed with schizophrenia, but for me it was a life saver to get OFF medication.
Had I continued with that poison it's likely I would have taken my own life.
One man’s medicine. I’m glad things worked out for you. You must have a great support system.
Yeah, I hardly think things have "worked out".
Forgive me I know you mean well.
But unless you think that a grown man being reduced to tears, sobbing worse than a small child for the last year has been "working out", then it's only because you have the wrong impression.
I'm just saying that this so called "medicine" would have probably shortened my life by 25 years.
It left me feeling empty, without meaning during the short time that it was forced on me.
Please take no offense.
The only reason I'm still around, and I'm surprised by the fact that I am, is because I'm a rebellious bastard that refuses to die.
I want to die, especially now for the last year, but I will not do it by my own hand.
I've never attempted suicide, but when they put me on that stuff about 25 years ago I certainly thought about it.
Something did happen about a year ago today that has devastated me...right down to the bone of my soul.
I put a knife to my heart, not with the intention of taking my life but rather demonstrating to God that He had sunken to a new low....He had delivered the final death blow to my heart, my will to live.
But I shall not die by my own hand. I'm too ornery to do that.
But had I been on that sh*t they put me on as a young man I don't think I'd be singing the same tune.
I think it could be the fear of God that keeps me hanging around I'm not sure.
The only thing that I am sure of, the ONLY thing that I want, is to see her again...to hold her in my arms once more.
God is the orchestrator of my sorrow, and only God can redeem me.
Every day is as painful as the first day I found out.
But that crap they put into me isn't going to help one iota
I'm bi-polar and found that state meds were far worse than the condition (i refuse to call it a disease) My condition is relatively mild thank god so now i just accept going thru my "A$$h0le phase"
@@maddhatter3564 . It takes so long to find the right cocktail. And find the right experienced doctor. Do you have any good reads?
Great interview. Hope you have a more authors and recommend more books.
Great interview
Amazing interview.
Wow! That was what I needed at this very moment.
Great interview. Loved it!
This is great! Looking forward to reading this book.
This is a very sad story,
Excellent interview.
Hence the old saying, the fine line between genius and insanity.
Drat you, Drew Klavan: excellent interview, but NOW I have to read the book!!
Not going to lie, I love E-books, because they're way cheaper than buying the physical copy, and you don't have to find somewhere to put them when you are done reading them.
Yes. Really interesting interview.
I miss the old intro.
Bring it back Andrew
The new intro. isn’t as good as the old intro.
Bravo!
Boo to daily wire for not putting member content on the DW website and their support team not having a clue regarding missing member content. Why should platforms that hate conservatives get priority?
Bring back Hunky Dunky 😤
I'm only seven minutes in but I'd like to make a note at this point. Lots of stories have the theme of having difficulty understanding what's really going on, it's hard to separate fantasy from reality. Jacob's Ladder, Sixth Sense, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Fight Club, Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance to name a few, but I'm sure there are many more.
What an interview!
I bought the book and it was as good as advertised. The only problem - I am watching the show Mr. Robot at the same time. I started to wonder if I was schizophrenic . I would fall asleep and a whole episode went by and I was unaware!
I think the real tragedy was the fiance getting murdered.
Very interesting.
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how arrogant and irrational it is to think you could possibly know what another person is thinking precisely,
even a most skilled fbi profiler or psychologist does not possess telepathy
What about adult guardianship? I know from personal experience that it's much easier simply to pay a forensic phychiatrist simply legally and medically someone incapable of making correct decisions and acting in their own best interests than to prove them a danger to themselves and others? One great advantage is you can persuade the judge the person can't even defend themselves legally because of their certified legal incompetence. i
so... second hand knowledge, and "i know crazy when I see it" should be the standard on which we deprive someones liberty and future prospects?
Actually, although my diagnosis is autism rather than scizophrenia and I have and my academic degrees are in History rather than economic and law, I related strongly to Mr .Lauder. Indeed, I've displayed some of the same symptoms as Mr .Lauder and the other schizophrenics described by Mr.Rosen. (which is why doctors have frequently misdiagnosed autistic patients as szizophrenics.
Not to detract from this video - but perhaps we now know what Andrew would look like with hair. I can't believe how similar the two of them favor one another.
Great interview, Andrew. It's a feather in your cap that this guy Rosen is spending half an hour with you. Because he really is very brilliant. But so was Foucault. And I know something about this subject, both from personal experience and from study. And I'm sorry to say, both Rosen and Foucault got it wrong.
"Mental illness," so called, is neither primarily a "social construct"--though there is a great deal of truth in Foucault's argument. Nor is it primarily a "chemical imbalance" like diabetes--though if you go crazy, naturally there are going to be some chemical changes that result. Duh.
Instead, the real essence of "mentail illness" is a spiritual problem. And the only real, true answer to the pain--and sometimes the danger--of such an altered state is acknowledging that spiritual reality.
As for the notion that madness--or "mental illness" if you like--is ever the cause of murder: Sorry, but I'm not buying it. It's a dynamite fairytale, of course. Just the thing for Hollywood. People always buy tickets to see that kind of crap. The "psycho-thriller" is one of America's most boffo show-biz inventions. But the data simply does not support such a notion. On the contrary, it has long been well established that people who are judged "mentally ill" are much less likely to victimize other people than people who are judged "sane."
Very rarely there are gray areas. If you really and truly believe that the FedEx driver is a secret assassin sent by Duchess Meghan and Hubby Harry to murder you for knowing too much about them, then that might get you a little bit of sympathy when you are arrested and tried for stabbing the poor schmuck to death in "self defense." But ultimately, murder is murder. And you should be found guilty as sin regardless of what the shrinks want the jury to believe.
The anxiety this interview produced didn’t take the position of a bad hair day. Remarkable!💋⚔️🕊
Some things should never be made into movies.
Just more proof that Focault provides nothing at all of value for mankind. What does this mean? That all of the intersectional philosophy and wokeism, being downstream from Focault is completely void of value even as a lens for viewing itself.
You nailed it, what roll does atheism play
A person can get locked away for mental reasons at the drop of the hat due to endless subjectivity's
Do these people read something other than bombastic summaries of Focault? In my opinion neither has read Focault qua Focault.
And is psychophrenia and belief based not on materialistic experience (in other words Faith) that different? Torqumeda's Faith certainly led to a lot of deaths.
This clip should be entitled how Faith Trumps Psychophrenia!!!
Stop talking about the military be warned
Yuck to the intro.