I had the privilege to listen to this amazing truth in person. I was in awe the whole time as to the amazing Glory of Christ and what He did for His people. I left from this sermon more convinced in my whole life that the reformed view of salvation is the correct interpretation of the Bible. Fantastic sermon! God bless.
This doctrine once terrified me to the core. While many tried to convince me that I was saved, I didn’t believe it. I saw and read what saved souls looked like, and I wasn’t one of them. Because I know that choice laid in God’s hands alone. Looking back on the time I was enabled to believe in God’s sovereign grace through faith in the atoning work of Christ, I see that those fears prodded me along ‘til I came to Him by faith.
So when we REFUSE to believe and call upon God to be saved is that what God wants or do WE refuse His help for our own reasons - because are we too willful, stubborn and proud to accept God's help? Sometimes we are like a drowning man who in his terror fights against his rescuer. Even then He is patient with us: 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is PATIENT with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE TO PERISH to perish but EVERYONE to come to REPENTANCE. (2 Peter 3:9) God's compassionate and condescending appeal to us to change their minds by surrendering our to HIS will is seen here: "But to Israel he says: “All day long I have STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS To a DISOBEDIENT and CONTRARY people.” (Romans 10:21) 2. I have STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS....By "the stretching out of the hands" he means the daily iINVITATION. There are various ways in which the Lord "stretches out his hands to us;" for he DRAWS us to him, either effectually or BY THE WORD. In this passage it must relate chiefly to the word. The Lord never speaks to us without at the same time "stretching out his hand" to JOIN US TO HIMSELF, or without causing us to feel, on the other hand, that HE IS NEAR TO US. He even EMBRACES US, and shews the anxiety of a father, so that, IF WE DO NOT COMPLY with his invitation, it must be owing ENTIRELY TO OUR OWN FAULT [Calvin's Commentaries, Isaiah 65:, sec.2] biblehub.com/commentaries/calvin/isaiah/65.htm
It is funny that we call this Calvinism, yet it is the gospel given by Christ and through the Holy Spirit. It is the message proclaimed by Peter, James, John and Paul. It is the message of God's Sovereignty that caused me to quit fighting with my brothers and sisters and just start speaking the truth. Thank you Mike, I love your preaching.
Reading most of John 17 leaving out of Jesus’ Prayer, that the last part, that World may believe is horrifying! Jesus is praying that the World may believe you have sent me. Please read the full context. This Pastor denies the 30 times the scripture that Jesus died for the sin of whole world. 1 John 2:2 Jesus Himself is our propitiation or atoning sacrifice for our sins, not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole World. John 3:16,17 God so loved the World that He gave His Only Begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. God did not send His Son into the World to condemn the World, but by Him it may be saved. May is a conditional word, conditioned on faith.
@@theresaread72 The world believing in this context is not speaking of salvation as Leighton would like you to believe. The prayer of Jesus will be answered. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Most will just do it when it is too late .
@@benny.patsyevans122 is that what the text says, Jesus is praying for the world not to believe and hopes it will be judged because He, Jesus did not die for them? It seems Jesus is praying for three groups: The first: John 17:1-19 Praying for Himself then for His Apostles who is with, as Jesus will be arrested that night for protection, and sanctification in the truth, they have believed you have sent me. The Second: John 20- Those who would believe in their, the Apostles Word The Third: John17:21-That the World May believe you have sent me
I prefer to believe Jesus and the Apostles rather than Spurgeon. Historically Calvinism is just a name for Augustinianism. Augustine drew his teaching on unilateral DETERMINISM and HUMAN INABILITY from what he learned while he was a member of the Persian Cult of Mani. No other orthodox Christian teacher in the Ante-Nicene period believed it before Augustine imported this idea into the Church in the Fifth Century
@@JimiSurvivor Hahaha...Ignorant statement. Here is a source for Pre-Augustinian fathers who. held to 1 or more of the TULIP!! The Cause of God and of Truth-John Gill. It's free on Internet Archive. Do yourself a favor.
Christ knew us before the foundation of the world. What believers must understand is that limited atonement is biblical and just. We are are sinners headed to hell who deserve that punishment, but by the Grace and mercy of God, sending His son to pay for the sins of all the elect throughout history who would believe and repent, and out His Grace and mercy and power on display through Us as His witnesses. And not even because any of are special and should become arrogant, but recognizing that we are sinners who have been saved merely by Gods soverign Grace and to proclaim the gospel, as it is not our buisness to know who the elect are, that’s for God to know only
"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.". Romans 8:29 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.". Revelation 22:13
Leighton is completely ready to fight against every point. He has steeled himself against every Bible verse that speaks about Election, predestination, and Foreknowledge. He can't hear the words in context. I often used to wonder how they can't clearly see what Scripture says. Especially when men like Dr. James White have expounded it out. My only conclusion is that maybe, just maybe they are still the Natural man of 1 Cor 2:14. What else can it be? God Bless. 📖🌷
Ephesians 5:25-27 - “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her (cf. John 10:11), so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.” It doesn't say that Christ loved and gave Himself up for absolutely everyone without exception, but ONLY the church - the groom purchases only His bride (Cf. Genesis 34:12). This accords well with His teaching in John 17 where He doesn't even pray for the world, but only for those whom the Father has given to Him out of the world (cf. John 6:44). Even Paul recognized that his own striving was for the sake of the elect, that they may obtain salvation (2 Timothy 2:10). When he writes to Titus, he declares that he is “a slave of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of God’s elect” (Titus 1:1). He makes no mention of working for those who are not elect, nor does he say that the non-elect can even have faith. In fact, in the following verse (2 Timothy 2:11), he says: “if we died with Him, we will also live with Him.” Here in this “if/then” statement, he is teaching the particular and definite nature of the atonement (Cf. Colossians 2:14) in order that he might demonstrate that his own striving is not in vain, that if Jesus died for an individual, that individual will most assuredly be saved (Cf. Romans 6:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:10); therefore he declares his duty to them only to bring them to faith. This accords precisely to what Jesus taught, that He laid His life down for the sheep (John 10:15), that the sheep are His people whom He came to save from their sins (Matthew 1:21), and that it is only the sheep who will believe (John 10:26). *No mention is made in Ephesians 5:25-27 of a love of Christ or a death of Christ for that which is not His bride, those who are not the true church which is sanctified by God's cleansing Word (Ephesians 5:26, John 17:17-19) and presented spotless at the last day (Ephesians 5:27). If Christ did actually love and die for absolutely everyone without exception (which necessarily would include the false church), then Christ "loved the church AND the false church, and gave himself up for them." Consequently, because husbands are commanded to imitate Christ, they would have to love and give themselves up for both their wives and whores even as Christ loves His bride and a whore, the false church, and gave Himself up for them.* The concept of a universal atonement turns both God and men into philanderers.
I can hear all the Self Determinists now, the Leighton Flowers and like kind, saying "I am the Determiner, I am autonomous, I could have said no to Gods grace (although he said he didn't), I used the power of my imaginary autonomous free will to decide whether or not I made mySelf the Bride of Christ, and my imaginary autonomous free wills ability to make the right choice to believe made me one of Christs Sheep." "I thank God for me, my choice that saved me, and...oh...also, with a little assistance from Gods grace." Yes, praise God, ALL Gods elect will be justified, sanctified, and ultimately glorified by the effectual power of Gods grace through the works, faith, and shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Regeneration preceeds receiving the salvific faith (Seed of Abraham) of Jesus Christ.
Sir, if someone purchases you a car and offers you the keys I’m pretty sure you aren’t gonna brag to everyone about your ability to take said keys. You’ll most likely honor the person that bought the car.. Belief is our choice, the atonement was Gods choice, whosoever believes will receive whosoever doesn’t will not.. in our state we can look at facts and believe something or not. Just like you can look at the evidence and conclude that 911 was an inside job or done by terrorist. Otherwise John 3:16 would say whosoever the father chooses to regenerate or whosoever is elected for salvation.
@anchoredinword The "so" in the verse you quoted, reflects the work of God for those who He only came for, "the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt 15:24. Who else did Christ come for? None..but..the lost sheep of the house of Israel. That verse you're quoting, ARE you who Christ says He only came for? Do you open mail not addressed to you and read it as though the Person was writing it to you? John 3:16 isn't for any "world" other than those God took out of the world, and called His own. John 15:19, John 17:6, John 17:23, 1 John 3:1. The "how" God demonstrates "His" love for those He has taken out of the world and called His own, the "so" of John 3:16, is revealed to His chosen people just a few verses prior, 13 verses prior to be exact, in John 3:3, and concludes in verse 8. If you can describe for me where the wind starts, why it changes speed and direction, and where it ends, then too can you tell me how you became a new creature in Christ Jesus, a requirement to not only see the kingdom of God, but to enter it. Your "faith" is not the power of God, it's Christs faith. If you can move mountains with "your" faith, then you've been given the faith of Christ, it's NOT your own, and its only given by Gods grace to whosoever He wills.
@@ManassehJones 1. you are inserting Calvinism into all the texts you quoted. Belief is a yes or no statement, all or none. Faith is something in measure it can grow, “some 30, 60, and 100 fold.” If Calvinism were true God would not use words such as belief which imply choice on the creature that the creature can make. Now if the requirement for salvation were perfection then yes we have total inability but if it’s belief that is in our power but, once again it’s not something to boast over. It’s a misnomer to say that free will is a superpower that saved us. Sir without Christ atonement our belief, faith or works is powerless. God gets all the glory for salvation because he did all the work, belief is not a work neither is faith. 2. If your view were true have you ever thought about the implications? You think you give God all the glory because He does the electing, irresistible regeneration etc. but then He gets all the blame in those He passes over. So the unbelievers get the perfect excuse in why they didn’t come to him. They were hated before the foundation of the world, God passes over them, they were dead so they couldn’t believe, God made their nature sinful, by Gods decree they did their sinning.. so they become victims instead of responsible. God would be the author of sin and unjust… and the Calvinist response is Romans 9 who are you o man to talk back to God.. really?? These implications should have you pausing because there’s no benefit in believing determinism.. this is just one example of how this system breaks down.. 3. Why does God save some and damn others? If you say it’s for His glory then does He get equal glory in salvation and damnation? If so why not save everyone? If He gets more glory for damnation and God wants maximum glory why diminish His glory with saving some? If He gets more glory in salvation why damn so many? The glory argument breaks down in Calvinism. 4.The atonement is a potential atonement that’s the only way that God can get Maximum glory. He sends ambassadors to share the gospel because they actually have the ability to believe. Order of salvation is belief, regeneration/new birth, faith that grows the more you read the word. Yes it’s supernatural and a choice to believe. God gets all the glory, man has responsibility, God is just when He damns unbelievers.
@@ManassehJones yes, I believe the gospel that Paul preached. 1 cor 15:1-4 the death burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, i affirm the deity of Christ as the second person of the triune God. God has made me His son by faith and I rest in His completed work.
I find it remarkable that God chose to reveal these truths to sinful man. He could easily have recorded in His word; " God saves sinners". He knew the deeper machinations of How He precisely accomplishes salvation would be offensive to some; He would be called "unloving" or "unfair" . Knowing Jesus actually SAVED and not merely "made salvation possible" has caused my love and esteem for Him greatly increase.
A...in His name REPENTANCE and FORGIVENESS OF SINS will be proclaimed to ALL NATIONS, beginning in Jerusalem (Luke 24:47) Why would God want us to proclaim repentance and forgiveness TO ALL NATIONS while simultaneously making it impossible for the majority of most to repent and be forgiven? Offering a promise of forgiveness while secretly making it impossible to obtain is deceitful B. On Calvinism, God does not love the world, and so He has no MOTIVE to die for them but the Bible says: "For God so LOVED THE WORLD that He gave His one and only Son, that EVERYONE who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the WORLD through Him.… (John 3:16-17) C. According to this passage, God sent His Son into the world TO SAVE it not to JUDGE it, ANYONE IN the world willing to accept the conviction of guilt by the Holy Spirit and REPENT OF SIN and TRUST in Jesus CAN BE SAVED. That is the gospel, the good news that has been given to us. It gives us hope and invites everyone to trust in the God who loves us
God not only COULD have recorded in His Word "God saves sinners" these words are actually recorded in the text. Paul said them himself. 15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves FULL ACCEPTANCE: Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS-of whom I am the WORST. (1 Timothy 1:15) Paul admits that Jesus came even to save the worst of men which he considers himself because he persecuted the Church. Despite that, Paul put his faith in Christ and was saved. If someone as bad as he was can be saved Paul figured God could save ANYONE
So the reason why people go to hell is not because they sinned and didn’t place their faith in Jesus (because they couldn’t) but because they were not loved by God?
Uh, no... it's because they sinned and didn't place their trust in Christ. There, that wasn't hard, was it. Now go tell Leighton Flowers to leave you alone and start reading the Bible.
This is a fundamental error made by many. God existed out side of time. There is no future, past now and then, etc. There is logical order but not temporal order. Because we live in this material universe with its dimension of time, things unfold over time, but not to God in His transcendent existence. LF and other false teachers don't understand how different God and His existence are from us. They simply think God is just a bigger, stronger, smarter version of us. They makes this are and frequently refer to our being made in God's image. That doesn't mean that He is totally different from us. That a major part of Hos holiness is. His otherness. So yes, they are condemned for their sin, that they willing committed, which includes unbelief. @@nesto2851
This issue is helpful to expose the Calvinist's disregard for Scripture. They assume that atonement is synonymous with salvation (it's a necessary component but there is more), that the death of Christ saves the soul. They could still maintain distinctive Calvinistic beliefs (T, U, I, P) while recognizing the Scriptural message in how important the resurrection is in the saving of the soul (1 Cor 15), that the Bible never says that we are saved by His death (see Romans 5:10 where salvation is a future event owing to His life relative to the reconciling atonement already accomplished on the cross.) The atonement reconciles the world (2 Cor 5:19) and the entire kosmos (in earth and heaven - Col 1:20 taking away the sin of the world (John 1:29) as a propitiation (1 John 2:2.) Having one's sin debt paid is necessary, but not sufficient, for salvation as only one of man's two-fold shortfalls, identified in Rom 3:23, is discharged. In the 52 minute video on atonement, I doubt the resurrection is going to be mentioned (I'll take the hit if someone identifies the timestamp that falsifies my hypothesis but I have better things to do with my time to hear the oft-repeated reformed canards.)
Very good point! The Atonement is what makes salvation POSSIBLE but it is not in effect until the blood of the Lamb is applied to the entrance to an individual's "house."
I understand and agree that Christ died only for his people, if he died for everyone, everyone would be saved. But who are his people? His people are those who put there faith in him. It seems at the heart of this debate is whether or not faith is a free-will choice of the believer, or if those who have faith only have faith because God allowed them to. If people only put faith in Christ because he essentially makes them have faith, it seems that the opposite would also be true and that people are going to hell because God didn’t want to save them for some reason. If this is true, how can it be true that God desires all to be saved? I’m interested in learning more about this.
There s this thing called paradox when we talk about God's sovereign election and man's responsibility. You cannot explain them. You have to accept them as they are. We know that faith is a gift from God (Ephesians 2:8,9) but at the same time, every man should fear God and obey his rules (Ecclesiastes 12:13).
@@grantvv8971 Not if the gift is from omnipotent, omniscient God. Is your breath or heartbeat a gift you can reject? Was your birth from your mother's womb a gift which you could reject?
Gods greatest gift of faith begins when He grants the sinner the 100% confidence of just how wicked, deceitful, and self loving the unregenerates heart is. Until, or unless, God grants this faith, this absolute, objective, undeniable truth and fact about ones own sinful heart and depravity, "faith" in Christ is impossible.
I hear the relentless arguing of those from the Calvinist & Arminian groups. My question is how does anyone know they are one of those chosen for redemption? Would either belief change the way someone would carry out the great commission?
Belief within itself is a gift. Ephesians 2:8-9. You know you’ve been chosen by your lifestyle. It’s not about what you say you are it’s about your conduct. It’s how you present yourselves. Please read Ephesians 2:1-10 to understand all of mankind and then who children of God then become
...Romans 8:16 is what was revealed to me when l was Born Again into God's Kingdom. The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God. I was instantly zealous to tell everyone. Now having studied for 5 years...l see that To the Elect our preaching is good news, for the unsaved, it's a judgement against them. We tell everyone. God Bless...💞📖✝️
@@elitecaosuk3141 I agree it absolutely changes both presentation of The Gospel and for doing the work of an evangelist. There is a fervency and joy when evangelizing that is wider, higher, deeper and of greater breadth when you believe that God desires that all would come to salvation.
Calvinism vs Arminianism is a false dichotomy. Arminias still believed certain doctrines of Calvin like ORIGINAL SIN and total INABILITY which were inventions of Augustine.
Those who curse the particular redemption of Gods elect who have by Gods effectual grace and calling in regeneration by the imputed seed of Abraham, which IS the salvific faith OF Jesus Christ and the righteousness of God, ie. " the Provisionists," are visibly, to this very hour, being judicially hardened to Gods grace more and more each day, every podcast. They will do entire one, or two hour videos on Soteriology and NOT ONCE mention the words "Gods grace." Genesis 12:1-3 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And👉 I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee:👈 and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Here, in verse 3, is the LORD Gods Sovereignty, His Dominion over all the inhabitants of the earth, solidified, in that He, God, will either bless or curse those who reject Gods effectual grace and power for His particular people.
According to your own belief system, is it not IMPOSSIBLE to resist God's EFFECTUAL grace? BTW where does the Bible use the term EFFECTUAL GRACE. This is an extra-Biblical construct not derived by Biblical exegesis of the text but by dishonest EISEGESIS, its purpose being to support a system of theology that came from outside Christiananity
@JimiSurvivor "Systems" are of this world. We sons of God are NOT of this world, and the Spirit of God that dwells in us cannot resist the power of Gods grace. No born again from above son of God could EVER say Gods grace is resistable.
@@JimiSurvivor Ephesians 3:7 KJV - Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the 👉effectual working of his power.👈
This to me only instils doubt and confusion of salvation . So no one can be sure that they are saved . Can't buy it . I came to The Lord because I believe His word in that is a promise of salvation . I know I'm saved because the Bible says so If I'm not then God is a liar and that's impossible.
Scripture gives us tests. Read Hebrews 4-6, 1 John 1-2, etc. We know we are saved because we have new affections and we yearn for our full redemption in glorification
The phrase "SOVEREIGNTY over the ATONEMENT" appears to be God-honoring but all it really comes down to is that Christ's sacrifice is INSUFFICIENT to "take away the sin of the WORLD" The Bible says this about the all-sufficiency of the Lamb's sacrifice: 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who TAKES AWAY (ὁ αἴρων) CARRIES AWAY the sin of the WORLD! (John 1:29) The phrase "takes away" is a PRESENT TENSE participle which indicates an ACTION that is CONTINUAL and ONGOING. Every time every time sinners repent and looked to Jesus for deliverance the Lamb forgaves. The limiting variable in this was not His SACRIFICE but the willingness of people to trust Him and "call upon the name of the Lord". In Calvin's system the blood is only adequate to save a small minority pre-selected by God, By contrast, the blood of the historic Passover Lamb saved even those who were not among the CHOSEN PEOPLE so long as they put the Lamb's blood on their doorposts Paul said about the gospel HE PREACHED: 16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES, first to the Jew, then to the Greek (Romans 1:16).
Letter to all the prisoners in the world: I am God and Christmas and the presents are coming. You just have to be wise and grab what's good for you, war or peace and prosperity for all. Life is an unbelievable miracle and one day you are punished in an overcrowded tiny cell and the next day you could be free with your loves ones dancing in the discotheque. I am a recovering addict and the greatest psychologist of all time and you can change your personality in no time understanding God, the intelligent creator of the universe, is the perfect living metaphysical entity all is part of, Time and Space. I would like you to memorize and understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Wisdom is not "spam" to be destroyed.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Anything else is heresy 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. John 3:14-16 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. It is no wonder the doctrine of men you preach relieves you of your responsibility to respond, believe and choose… never hear the word GOSPEL in any presentation… interesting
40:35 your gospel is different. That is not good news. Only good news YOU have is that you are elect. Can you fathom how proud it is to say Lord what you required is not possible.
@@owenyoumans5597 It diminishes the atonement. It limits the work of Christ. And this in turn has many negative consequences. And unfortunately I don't have time to develop that here. But there is plenty of literature dealing with it.
@@svenskbibel It does the exact opposite actually. An unlimited atonement diminishes the atonement because you have to say that Christ failed at saving a ton of people that are paying for their sin in Hell.
@@owenyoumans5597 No, the unsaved in hell are not there because Christ atoned for the sins of the world, but because they did not repent and believe. Christ has done EVERYTHING for them to be saved. But they would not believe. But if limited atonement is true, then all those in hell have the right to accuse both the Father and the Son of being unrighteous and unjust because Christ did not die for them for some unfathomable reason. So the cries from hell when they accuse God, those cries become righteous for all eternity, because God did not let his Son die for them.
@@svenskbibel Them not repenting and believing and Christ not dying for them can be true at the same time. Everyone that goes to Hell is going there because they didn't repent of their sin and believe the gospel. You are right about that. The people in Hell have no right to accuse God of being unrighteous because they themselves are unrighteous. That's the whole reason for them being there. The whole flaw of unlimited atonement like you said, "Christ has done EVERYTHING for them to be saved", is that it sounds like you believe that if Christ has actually done everything for us, then his hands are tied by our unbelief when in fact he can give us faith in himself but for the ones that are in Hell, he just chooses not to. A good thing to remember for this conversation in predestination or definite atonement is that God doesn't have to save anyone but he chooses to graciously do so.
This is so funny... You're literally saying you can't help but be saved despite how bad or how flawed you are. If god picked you you're going to heaven. Do no effort of your own. What a soothing religious perspective you have... And the false humility does not cover the enormous ego displayed in this sermon. God loved you so much he saved you but other people... eh Is like all religions your only stating the thoughts in your head. Massive ego to think... You have any idea the intent or will of a god no one can verify. You're simply proclaiming your own thoughts and desires as divine.
@HearGodsWord that's what she said.... Meaning you and I, the G3 speakers, the human authors of all religious texts, the readers of those texts, the preachers, pastors, the audience, the congregation, the UA-cam watchers.... all... all find their own mind focused meaning. You're just proving my points
The question of soverieignty is the number #1 barrier for so many coming to the Lord. In our natural hearts, we want to be our own god.
I thought not believing in Jesus was.
Because (the calvinistic caricature of) God sovereignly decreed in eternity past that we would want to be our own god?
So if you don’t believe in determinism you’re not saved?
Jesus is God. Thats why they refuse to acknowledge Him as God.@@nesto2851
No, if you don't confess Jesus as LORD.@@anchoredinword
I had the privilege to listen to this amazing truth in person. I was in awe the whole time as to the amazing Glory of Christ and what He did for His people. I left from this sermon more convinced in my whole life that the reformed view of salvation is the correct interpretation of the Bible. Fantastic sermon! God bless.
What a powerful sermon,Soli Deo Gloria.
What's his age?
Glory, Glory, and great mighty bunches of glory after that! Praise the Lord!
This doctrine once terrified me to the core. While many tried to convince me that I was saved, I didn’t believe it. I saw and read what saved souls looked like, and I wasn’t one of them. Because I know that choice laid in God’s hands alone. Looking back on the time I was enabled to believe in God’s sovereign grace through faith in the atoning work of Christ, I see that those fears prodded me along ‘til I came to Him by faith.
So when we REFUSE to believe and call upon God to be saved is that what God wants or do WE refuse His help for our own reasons - because are we too willful, stubborn and proud to accept God's help? Sometimes we are like a drowning man who in his terror fights against his rescuer. Even then He is patient with us:
9 The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is PATIENT with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE TO PERISH to perish but EVERYONE to come to REPENTANCE. (2 Peter 3:9)
God's compassionate and condescending appeal to us to change their minds by surrendering our to HIS will is seen here:
"But to Israel he says: “All day long I have STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS To a DISOBEDIENT and CONTRARY people.” (Romans 10:21)
2. I have STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS....By "the stretching out of the hands" he means the daily iINVITATION. There are various ways in which the Lord "stretches out his hands to us;" for he DRAWS us to him, either effectually or BY THE WORD. In this passage it must relate chiefly to the word. The Lord never speaks to us without at the same time "stretching out his hand" to JOIN US TO HIMSELF, or without causing us to feel, on the other hand, that HE IS NEAR TO US. He even EMBRACES US, and shews the anxiety of a father, so that, IF WE DO NOT COMPLY with his invitation, it must be owing ENTIRELY TO OUR OWN FAULT
[Calvin's Commentaries, Isaiah 65:, sec.2]
biblehub.com/commentaries/calvin/isaiah/65.htm
One of the best sermons I've ever seen
Such an important topic to plant in our hearts. I will listen to it again and again. I am keeping an eye on Mike. I like how he preaches 😊
It is funny that we call this Calvinism, yet it is the gospel given by Christ and through the Holy Spirit. It is the message proclaimed by Peter, James, John and Paul. It is the message of God's Sovereignty that caused me to quit fighting with my brothers and sisters and just start speaking the truth. Thank you Mike, I love your preaching.
Calvanism is a nickname
Reading most of John 17 leaving out of Jesus’ Prayer, that the last part, that World may believe is horrifying! Jesus is praying that the World may believe you have sent me. Please read the full context. This Pastor denies the 30 times the scripture that Jesus died for the sin of whole world. 1 John 2:2 Jesus Himself is our propitiation or atoning sacrifice for our sins, not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole World. John 3:16,17 God so loved the World that He gave His Only Begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. God did not send His Son into the World to condemn the World, but by Him it may be saved. May is a conditional word, conditioned on faith.
@@theresaread72 The world believing in this context is not speaking of salvation as Leighton would like you to believe. The prayer of Jesus will be answered. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Most will just do it when it is too late .
@@benny.patsyevans122 is that what the text says, Jesus is praying for the world not to believe and hopes it will be judged because He, Jesus did not die for them?
It seems Jesus is praying for three groups:
The first: John 17:1-19 Praying for Himself then for His Apostles who is with, as Jesus will be arrested that night for protection, and sanctification in the truth, they have believed you have sent me.
The Second: John 20- Those who would believe in their, the Apostles Word
The Third: John17:21-That the World May believe you have sent me
@@theresaread72 Did Jesus die to save all those destroyed by God in the flood of Noah's day?
Thank you Pst Mike and g3 for putting this together.
"Calvinism is nothing else than a nickname for the true Gospel" C. Spurgeon
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I prefer to believe Jesus and the Apostles rather than Spurgeon. Historically Calvinism is just a name for Augustinianism. Augustine drew his teaching on unilateral DETERMINISM and HUMAN INABILITY from what he learned while he was a member of the Persian Cult of Mani. No other orthodox Christian teacher in the Ante-Nicene period believed it before Augustine imported this idea into the Church in the Fifth Century
Christ didn't give his gospel nickname.
Calvinism Is Not The Gospel.
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@@JimiSurvivor Paul was long before Augustine.
@@JimiSurvivor Hahaha...Ignorant statement. Here is a source for Pre-Augustinian fathers who. held to 1 or more of the TULIP!! The Cause of God and of Truth-John Gill. It's free on Internet Archive. Do yourself a favor.
Move of the Spirit! Clear!
Thank you Mike for a wonderful message. I did believe in the sovereignty of God in redemption. But your explanation was really helpful.
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Christ knew us before the foundation of the world. What believers must understand is that limited atonement is biblical and just. We are are sinners headed to hell who deserve that punishment, but by the Grace and mercy of God, sending His son to pay for the sins of all the elect throughout history who would believe and repent, and out His Grace and mercy and power on display through Us as His witnesses. And not even because any of are special and should become arrogant, but recognizing that we are sinners who have been saved merely by Gods soverign Grace and to proclaim the gospel, as it is not our buisness to know who the elect are, that’s for God to know only
"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.". Romans 8:29
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.". Revelation 22:13
If you want the abridged version of the death of death in the death of Christ…..
What a talk!
Amen! Amen!
Leighton Flowers needs to see this.
😂 he wouldn’t like it
Leighton is more interested in defending his position then he is about being biblical.
Leighton is completely ready to fight against every point. He has steeled himself against every Bible verse that speaks about Election, predestination, and Foreknowledge. He can't hear the words in context. I often used to wonder how they can't clearly see what Scripture says. Especially when men like Dr. James White have expounded it out. My only conclusion is that maybe, just maybe they are still the Natural man of 1 Cor 2:14. What else can it be? God Bless. 📖🌷
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Leighton Flowers needs to repent and believe in Jesus
Ephesians 5:25-27 - “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her (cf. John 10:11), so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.”
It doesn't say that Christ loved and gave Himself up for absolutely everyone without exception, but ONLY the church - the groom purchases only His bride (Cf. Genesis 34:12). This accords well with His teaching in John 17 where He doesn't even pray for the world, but only for those whom the Father has given to Him out of the world (cf. John 6:44).
Even Paul recognized that his own striving was for the sake of the elect, that they may obtain salvation (2 Timothy 2:10). When he writes to Titus, he declares that he is “a slave of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of God’s elect” (Titus 1:1). He makes no mention of working for those who are not elect, nor does he say that the non-elect can even have faith. In fact, in the following verse (2 Timothy 2:11), he says: “if we died with Him, we will also live with Him.” Here in this “if/then” statement, he is teaching the particular and definite nature of the atonement (Cf. Colossians 2:14) in order that he might demonstrate that his own striving is not in vain, that if Jesus died for an individual, that individual will most assuredly be saved (Cf. Romans 6:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:10); therefore he declares his duty to them only to bring them to faith. This accords precisely to what Jesus taught, that He laid His life down for the sheep (John 10:15), that the sheep are His people whom He came to save from their sins (Matthew 1:21), and that it is only the sheep who will believe (John 10:26).
*No mention is made in Ephesians 5:25-27 of a love of Christ or a death of Christ for that which is not His bride, those who are not the true church which is sanctified by God's cleansing Word (Ephesians 5:26, John 17:17-19) and presented spotless at the last day (Ephesians 5:27). If Christ did actually love and die for absolutely everyone without exception (which necessarily would include the false church), then Christ "loved the church AND the false church, and gave himself up for them." Consequently, because husbands are commanded to imitate Christ, they would have to love and give themselves up for both their wives and whores even as Christ loves His bride and a whore, the false church, and gave Himself up for them.*
The concept of a universal atonement turns both God and men into philanderers.
Praise God for His wisdom given you, Brother Lawrence.
So why doesn’t God elect everyone in your view if sovereignty means determinism through election and regeneration?
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Paul explains in Romans 9:22-26, so that God may demonstrate all of His attributes, including His wrath and judgment.
@@lawrencestanley8989 couldnt God displaying His wrath in the judgment of Satan and the fallen angels be sufficient?
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Why engage in hypotheticals? Do you not want to believe what the Bible teaches?
I can hear all the Self Determinists now, the Leighton Flowers and like kind, saying "I am the Determiner, I am autonomous, I could have said no to Gods grace (although he said he didn't), I used the power of my imaginary autonomous free will to decide whether or not I made mySelf the Bride of Christ, and my imaginary autonomous free wills ability to make the right choice to believe made me one of Christs Sheep." "I thank God for me, my choice that saved me, and...oh...also, with a little assistance from Gods grace."
Yes, praise God, ALL Gods elect will be justified, sanctified, and ultimately glorified by the effectual power of Gods grace through the works, faith, and shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Regeneration preceeds receiving the salvific faith (Seed of Abraham) of Jesus Christ.
Sir, if someone purchases you a car and offers you the keys I’m pretty sure you aren’t gonna brag to everyone about your ability to take said keys. You’ll most likely honor the person that bought the car..
Belief is our choice, the atonement was Gods choice, whosoever believes will receive whosoever doesn’t will not.. in our state we can look at facts and believe something or not. Just like you can look at the evidence and conclude that 911 was an inside job or done by terrorist. Otherwise John 3:16 would say whosoever the father chooses to regenerate or whosoever is elected for salvation.
@anchoredinword The "so" in the verse you quoted, reflects the work of God for those who He only came for, "the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt 15:24. Who else did Christ come for? None..but..the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
That verse you're quoting, ARE you who Christ says He only came for? Do you open mail not addressed to you and read it as though the Person was writing it to you? John 3:16 isn't for any "world" other than those God took out of the world, and called His own. John 15:19, John 17:6, John 17:23, 1 John 3:1.
The "how" God demonstrates "His" love for those He has taken out of the world and called His own, the "so" of John 3:16, is revealed to His chosen people just a few verses prior, 13 verses prior to be exact, in John 3:3, and concludes in verse 8.
If you can describe for me where the wind starts, why it changes speed and direction, and where it ends, then too can you tell me how you became a new creature in Christ Jesus, a requirement to not only see the kingdom of God, but to enter it.
Your "faith" is not the power of God, it's Christs faith. If you can move mountains with "your" faith, then you've been given the faith of Christ, it's NOT your own, and its only given by Gods grace to whosoever He wills.
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1. you are inserting Calvinism into all the texts you quoted. Belief is a yes or no statement, all or none. Faith is something in measure it can grow, “some 30, 60, and 100 fold.” If Calvinism were true God would not use words such as belief which imply choice on the creature that the creature can make. Now if the requirement for salvation were perfection then yes we have total inability but if it’s belief that is in our power but, once again it’s not something to boast over. It’s a misnomer to say that free will is a superpower that saved us. Sir without Christ atonement our belief, faith or works is powerless. God gets all the glory for salvation because he did all the work, belief is not a work neither is faith.
2. If your view were true have you ever thought about the implications? You think you give God all the glory because He does the electing, irresistible regeneration etc. but then He gets all the blame in those He passes over. So the unbelievers get the perfect excuse in why they didn’t come to him. They were hated before the foundation of the world, God passes over them, they were dead so they couldn’t believe, God made their nature sinful, by Gods decree they did their sinning.. so they become victims instead of responsible. God would be the author of sin and unjust… and the Calvinist response is Romans 9 who are you o man to talk back to God.. really?? These implications should have you pausing because there’s no benefit in believing determinism.. this is just one example of how this system breaks down..
3. Why does God save some and damn others? If you say it’s for His glory then does He get equal glory in salvation and damnation? If so why not save everyone? If He gets more glory for damnation and God wants maximum glory why diminish His glory with saving some? If He gets more glory in salvation why damn so many? The glory argument breaks down in Calvinism.
4.The atonement is a potential atonement that’s the only way that God can get Maximum glory. He sends ambassadors to share the gospel because they actually have the ability to believe. Order of salvation is belief, regeneration/new birth, faith that grows the more you read the word. Yes it’s supernatural and a choice to believe. God gets all the glory, man has responsibility, God is just when He damns unbelievers.
@anchoredinword Im not a Calvinist. I am a son of God. Are you saved by grace?
@@ManassehJones yes, I believe the gospel that Paul preached. 1 cor 15:1-4 the death burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, i affirm the deity of Christ as the second person of the triune God. God has made me His son by faith and I rest in His completed work.
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I find it remarkable that God chose to reveal these truths to sinful man. He could easily have recorded in His
word; " God saves sinners". He knew the deeper machinations of How He precisely accomplishes salvation would be offensive to some; He would be called "unloving" or "unfair" . Knowing Jesus actually SAVED and not merely "made salvation possible" has caused my love and esteem for Him greatly increase.
A...in His name REPENTANCE and FORGIVENESS OF SINS will be proclaimed to ALL NATIONS, beginning in Jerusalem (Luke 24:47)
Why would God want us to proclaim repentance and forgiveness TO ALL NATIONS while simultaneously making it impossible for the majority of most to repent and be forgiven? Offering a promise of forgiveness while secretly making it impossible to obtain is deceitful
B. On Calvinism, God does not love the world, and so He has no MOTIVE to die for them
but the Bible says: "For God so LOVED THE WORLD that He gave His one and only Son, that EVERYONE who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the WORLD through Him.…
(John 3:16-17)
C. According to this passage, God sent His Son into the world TO SAVE it not to JUDGE it, ANYONE IN the world willing to accept the conviction of guilt by the Holy Spirit and REPENT OF SIN and TRUST in Jesus CAN BE SAVED. That is the gospel, the good news that has been given to us. It gives us hope and invites everyone to trust in the God who loves us
God not only COULD have recorded in His Word "God saves sinners" these words are actually recorded in the text. Paul said them himself.
15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves FULL ACCEPTANCE: Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS-of whom I am the WORST.
(1 Timothy 1:15)
Paul admits that Jesus came even to save the worst of men which he considers himself because he persecuted the Church. Despite that, Paul put his faith in Christ and was saved. If someone as bad as he was can be saved Paul figured God could save ANYONE
i was hoping that he would explain how he folds John 3 into his position
That would be quite a card trick reducing the universal love God has for man into hate for the majority
Great sermon by Mike Riccardi ! Many thanks for sharing this!
He is a dead caretaker of a dead system
So the reason why people go to hell is not because they sinned and didn’t place their faith in Jesus (because they couldn’t) but because they were not loved by God?
Uh, no... it's because they sinned and didn't place their trust in Christ. There, that wasn't hard, was it. Now go tell Leighton Flowers to leave you alone and start reading the Bible.
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I thought before they did anything good or bad people are determined to go to hell by God. So it’s not because they sinned.
This is a fundamental error made by many. God existed out side of time. There is no future, past now and then, etc. There is logical order but not temporal order. Because we live in this material universe with its dimension of time, things unfold over time, but not to God in His transcendent existence. LF and other false teachers don't understand how different God and His existence are from us. They simply think God is just a bigger, stronger, smarter version of us. They makes this are and frequently refer to our being made in God's image. That doesn't mean that He is totally different from us. That a major part of Hos holiness is. His otherness. So yes, they are condemned for their sin, that they willing committed, which includes unbelief. @@nesto2851
This issue is helpful to expose the Calvinist's disregard for Scripture. They assume that atonement is synonymous with salvation (it's a necessary component but there is more), that the death of Christ saves the soul. They could still maintain distinctive Calvinistic beliefs (T, U, I, P) while recognizing the Scriptural message in how important the resurrection is in the saving of the soul (1 Cor 15), that the Bible never says that we are saved by His death (see Romans 5:10 where salvation is a future event owing to His life relative to the reconciling atonement already accomplished on the cross.) The atonement reconciles the world (2 Cor 5:19) and the entire kosmos (in earth and heaven - Col 1:20 taking away the sin of the world (John 1:29) as a propitiation (1 John 2:2.) Having one's sin debt paid is necessary, but not sufficient, for salvation as only one of man's two-fold shortfalls, identified in Rom 3:23, is discharged.
In the 52 minute video on atonement, I doubt the resurrection is going to be mentioned (I'll take the hit if someone identifies the timestamp that falsifies my hypothesis but I have better things to do with my time to hear the oft-repeated reformed canards.)
Very good point! The Atonement is what makes salvation POSSIBLE but it is not in effect until the blood of the Lamb is applied to the entrance to an individual's "house."
Golly, that is incredibly stupid!!
I understand and agree that Christ died only for his people, if he died for everyone, everyone would be saved. But who are his people? His people are those who put there faith in him. It seems at the heart of this debate is whether or not faith is a free-will choice of the believer, or if those who have faith only have faith because God allowed them to. If people only put faith in Christ because he essentially makes them have faith, it seems that the opposite would also be true and that people are going to hell because God didn’t want to save them for some reason. If this is true, how can it be true that God desires all to be saved? I’m interested in learning more about this.
There s this thing called paradox when we talk about God's sovereign election and man's responsibility. You cannot explain them. You have to accept them as they are. We know that faith is a gift from God (Ephesians 2:8,9) but at the same time, every man should fear God and obey his rules (Ecclesiastes 12:13).
Those who have faith have it not because they were allowed to have it but because it was given to them by God. Eph. 2:8-9.
@@benny.patsyevans122faith is a gift, yes, but can’t a gift be accepted or rejected?
@@grantvv8971 Not if the gift is from omnipotent, omniscient God. Is your breath or heartbeat a gift you can reject? Was your birth from your mother's womb a gift which you could reject?
Gods greatest gift of faith begins when He grants the sinner the 100% confidence of just how wicked, deceitful, and self loving the unregenerates heart is. Until, or unless, God grants this faith, this absolute, objective, undeniable truth and fact about ones own sinful heart and depravity, "faith" in Christ is impossible.
who is this guy? for a minute i thought i was listening to Lawson, Sproul or America's pastor MacArthur
Oh yeah, you need to check out his book "To Save Sinners." It is an EXCELLENT treatise on the nature and the extent of the atonement.
Mike Riccardi serves as the Pastor of Local Outreach Ministries at Grace Community Church
This was the apex of the conference! By far my favorite preacher.
I hear the relentless arguing of those from the Calvinist & Arminian groups. My question is how does anyone know they are one of those chosen for redemption? Would either belief change the way someone would carry out the great commission?
Belief within itself is a gift. Ephesians 2:8-9. You know you’ve been chosen by your lifestyle. It’s not about what you say you are it’s about your conduct. It’s how you present yourselves. Please read Ephesians 2:1-10 to understand all of mankind and then who children of God then become
Yes. It does change the way the great commission is carried out. It even has an effect on the way in which the Gospel is preached.
...Romans 8:16 is what was revealed to me when l was Born Again into God's Kingdom. The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God. I was instantly zealous to tell everyone. Now having studied for 5 years...l see that To the Elect our preaching is good news, for the unsaved, it's a judgement against them. We tell everyone. God Bless...💞📖✝️
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I agree it absolutely changes both presentation of The Gospel and for doing the work of an evangelist.
There is a fervency and joy when evangelizing that is wider, higher, deeper and of greater breadth when you believe that God desires that all would come to salvation.
Calvinism vs Arminianism is a false dichotomy. Arminias still believed certain doctrines of Calvin like ORIGINAL SIN and total INABILITY which were inventions of Augustine.
Up until Augustine, this sermon would have been considered deeply heretical.
Those who curse the particular redemption of Gods elect who have by Gods effectual grace and calling in regeneration by the imputed seed of Abraham, which IS the salvific faith OF Jesus Christ and the righteousness of God, ie. " the Provisionists," are visibly, to this very hour, being judicially hardened to Gods grace more and more each day, every podcast. They will do entire one, or two hour videos on Soteriology and NOT ONCE mention the words "Gods grace."
Genesis 12:1-3 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And👉 I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee:👈 and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Here, in verse 3, is the LORD Gods Sovereignty, His Dominion over all the inhabitants of the earth, solidified, in that He, God, will either bless or curse those who reject Gods effectual grace and power for His particular people.
According to your own belief system, is it not IMPOSSIBLE to resist God's EFFECTUAL grace? BTW where does the Bible use the term EFFECTUAL GRACE. This is an extra-Biblical construct not derived by Biblical exegesis of the text but by dishonest EISEGESIS, its purpose being to support a system of theology that came from outside Christiananity
@JimiSurvivor "Systems" are of this world. We sons of God are NOT of this world, and the Spirit of God that dwells in us cannot resist the power of Gods grace. No born again from above son of God could EVER say Gods grace is resistable.
@@JimiSurvivor Ephesians 3:7 KJV - Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the 👉effectual working of his power.👈
This to me only instils doubt and confusion of salvation . So no one can be sure that they are saved . Can't buy it . I came to The Lord because I believe His word in that is a promise of salvation . I know I'm saved because the Bible says so If I'm not then God is a liar and that's impossible.
Actually it makes salvation so certain even you couldn't mess it up.
Scripture gives us tests. Read Hebrews 4-6, 1 John 1-2, etc. We know we are saved because we have new affections and we yearn for our full redemption in glorification
The phrase "SOVEREIGNTY over the ATONEMENT" appears to be God-honoring but all it really comes down to is that Christ's sacrifice is INSUFFICIENT to "take away the sin of the WORLD"
The Bible says this about the all-sufficiency of the Lamb's sacrifice:
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who TAKES AWAY (ὁ αἴρων) CARRIES AWAY the sin of the WORLD! (John 1:29)
The phrase "takes away" is a PRESENT TENSE participle which indicates an ACTION that is CONTINUAL and ONGOING. Every time every time sinners repent and looked to Jesus for deliverance the Lamb forgaves. The limiting variable in this was not His SACRIFICE but the willingness of people to trust Him and "call upon the name of the Lord".
In Calvin's system the blood is only adequate to save a small minority pre-selected by God, By contrast, the blood of the historic Passover Lamb saved even those who were not among the CHOSEN PEOPLE so long as they put the Lamb's blood on their doorposts
Paul said about the gospel HE PREACHED: 16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES, first to the Jew, then to the Greek
(Romans 1:16).
Letter to all the prisoners in the world: I am God and Christmas and the presents are coming. You just have to be wise and grab what's good for you, war or peace and prosperity for all. Life is an unbelievable miracle and one day you are punished in an overcrowded tiny cell and the next day you could be free with your loves ones dancing in the discotheque. I am a recovering addict and the greatest psychologist of all time and you can change your personality in no time understanding God, the intelligent creator of the universe, is the perfect living metaphysical entity all is part of, Time and Space. I would like you to memorize and understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Wisdom is not "spam" to be destroyed.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Anything else is heresy
1 Timothy 2:4
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
John 3:14-16
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It is no wonder the doctrine of men you preach relieves you of your responsibility to respond, believe and choose… never hear the word GOSPEL in any presentation… interesting
40:35 your gospel is different. That is not good news. Only good news YOU have is that you are elect. Can you fathom how proud it is to say Lord what you required is not possible.
How do you shave news?
Calvinism contributes to God's church. But limited/particular atonement does not. It is a great and dangerous doctrine.
How is it dangerous?
@@owenyoumans5597 It diminishes the atonement. It limits the work of Christ. And this in turn has many negative consequences. And unfortunately I don't have time to develop that here. But there is plenty of literature dealing with it.
@@svenskbibel It does the exact opposite actually. An unlimited atonement diminishes the atonement because you have to say that Christ failed at saving a ton of people that are paying for their sin in Hell.
@@owenyoumans5597 No, the unsaved in hell are not there because Christ atoned for the sins of the world, but because they did not repent and believe. Christ has done EVERYTHING for them to be saved. But they would not believe.
But if limited atonement is true, then all those in hell have the right to accuse both the Father and the Son of being unrighteous and unjust because Christ did not die for them for some unfathomable reason. So the cries from hell when they accuse God, those cries become righteous for all eternity, because God did not let his Son die for them.
@@svenskbibel Them not repenting and believing and Christ not dying for them can be true at the same time. Everyone that goes to Hell is going there because they didn't repent of their sin and believe the gospel. You are right about that. The people in Hell have no right to accuse God of being unrighteous because they themselves are unrighteous. That's the whole reason for them being there. The whole flaw of unlimited atonement like you said, "Christ has done EVERYTHING for them to be saved", is that it sounds like you believe that if Christ has actually done everything for us, then his hands are tied by our unbelief when in fact he can give us faith in himself but for the ones that are in Hell, he just chooses not to. A good thing to remember for this conversation in predestination or definite atonement is that God doesn't have to save anyone but he chooses to graciously do so.
False gospel.
True Gospel
Then you deny the word of God. Because it's clearly stated multiple times
This is so funny... You're literally saying you can't help but be saved despite how bad or how flawed you are. If god picked you you're going to heaven. Do no effort of your own.
What a soothing religious perspective you have... And the false humility does not cover the enormous ego displayed in this sermon.
God loved you so much he saved you but other people... eh
Is like all religions your only stating the thoughts in your head.
Massive ego to think... You have any idea the intent or will of a god no one can verify.
You're simply proclaiming your own thoughts and desires as divine.
It doesn't seem you understood the talk
@HearGodsWord that's what she said....
Meaning you and I, the G3 speakers, the human authors of all religious texts, the readers of those texts, the preachers, pastors, the audience, the congregation, the UA-cam watchers....
all... all find their own mind focused meaning.
You're just proving my points
Mike isn't a she, so I don't know who you were actually listening to. Your reply actually proved my point, not yours.