I love the xtr 6.5 components I've had 2 sets 1 on my front and 1 on the rear doors for couple of years now and I just finished adding 2 pairs of of the xtr pro xpm8"s to both sets making them into a 3 way component sets running it all active off a dsp and man it sounds so good orion needs to make a 3way setup even if they just did it with a 6.5",4" & the xtr tweet it'd still sound so good
The Pioneers hold more midbass better: Look at his reactions throughout the 1st song!!🤔 But the orions have a better overall balanced sound. I prefer more midbass with a tweeter added separately. the Orion's are great speakers but they're Too damn BIG!! Too much modifying to do look how big the spacer rings are!! Like Mike says we need Neo versions of these and other loudspeakers GREAT video👍👍
jason mason yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I guess if you have the room and have a good EQ and X- Over system, the Orion would be choice. The pioneer with a good tweeter will do just as good. I think the Orion is good if your running a lot of power. Plus it depends if you get 8 or 4 ohms. That will have an effect on your set up.
I had the hcca 64n I have the XTR 64n and mobile quartz 216 series ,,mobile courts are the same in height as the hcca 64's the xtr64n are 3/4 in shorter much more shallow speaker,,((mid& High only , nothing lower than 150 Hertz on the xtr64n
Watching from Suriname 🇸🇷 , awesome channel I bought 4 off these orion midrange speakers before watching this and now I’m even more exited , keep it up 👍🏽
Excellent Video and sound tests.... Just ordered the Orion. But im had myself asking whats the difference with the XTR Pro and the HCCA besides the price... Think you can compare them together?
very good for Orion :) but if you want this a beast the GROUND ZERO GZCM 8-4PPX i think destroy it :) i you have the possibility try it tnx tony from italy :) of course new sub :)
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels man why don’t you break the speakers up a little more? Your calling it the best midrange /midbass but it looks like you have a lot of coaxials on the table. Mid range/mid bass speaker should be dedicated to mid range and mid bass- not which one sounds more clear. EDIT: clear would be a good thing, what I meant was which one does full range best in other words no highs necessary to win. After all it is a mid range. But to each his own! Love your vids tho , but as long as your testing can I ask that favor? Lol
XPM654MBF is no longer available and neither is the HCCA64NHP - pisses me off the 2 speakers I want are both discontinued... I ordered the HCCA64NHP and they sent me the HCCA68NHP and I requested a swap, they told me the HCCA64NHP is no longer available and HCCA68NHP was only one left and the only 4ohm in that class was HCCA64N at 100w RMS less AND get this... the PRICE was HIGHER! FFS, Orion left a bad taste in my mouth after this... they called me yesterday to deal with this and nothing... All I wanted was a refund, I guess I will go DS18 now.
I love your videos. Do you think you could do one with the best results from the different price ranges? like $50 and under, 50-100, 100+? I don't exactly have a ton of room for those Orions, is there a set that are maybe a little smaller? I know you have reviewed the xtr's do you think they are the best in their price range and size?
At first I was thinking the Pioneer Pro was disappointing in this test - but after more listening, I'm beginning to feel as though the Orion sounds louder because it has more dynamic range - however, what I'm questioning is how each speaker would sound when properly paired-up with a tweeter/bullet etc, to produce a full sound - because now, I'm thinking the Orion may result in an overly bright setup, as there will be overlap between the mid to high frequency - which may or may not work against it, in terms of overall sound balance and quality. Does that make any sense?
Every component has a sound signature. Like each speaker will never sound the same and the EQ will not be able to make it sound like another speaker because of the bleeding of frequencies into each other making it complex. It's better to start off with a sound signature which you like.
i want to build a nice and strong costum car audio, but i havent decided about the midrange speakers what is better (6x)6,5 inch or (4x)8 inch speakers ? for loud and quality sound? also i want your opnion for sp audio speakers
I dont know what to do about my system. I have a 2015 chrysler 300. I want tweeters in dash 6.5mid range in doors, and 6x9 full range in the rear with 12 in sub. I already have an amp for sub and 6 channel audio control d-6 1200. I just dont know what speakers to buy for my doors. Any suggestion speakers for the sound stage im trying to go for
what would the Orion xpm658mbf sound? According to Orion it should react the same just would pull less power than the 4 Ohm version . What do you think?
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels looking forward to the reviews soon !! I am almost sold on the Orion’s and I am looking at purchasing the 3 pairs of 8s and 3 pairs of 6.5s, but waiting on your new reviews to pull the trigger. Excited to hear the outcome of the next upload 😃😃. Let’s see if Orion will come out king.
@@wendellpaul9143 @Wendell Paul I'm wondering the same. I had a hard time finding the Orion's in stock that he reviewed. I have a ne hi's amp on the way (425 watts rms x4 @ 2 ohm stereo) it will be here tomorrow and NEED to get some mids on the way lol Mike Angel's any info would be much appreciated 💪👊
How about doing a video of some 6.5 Orion cobalt midrange coxals vs some JL Audio c2650 as well as some midrange speakers from both companies? Plus keep up the good work. Your channel has definitely helped me in choosing the right system for my car.
ya but, how do Orions and the Pioneer pro sound at low-moderate volume? like say 50 watts. ---I listen loud most of the time, but also like speakers that sound good at lower volumes. Would you recommend the B&C or do the Orions sound good at lower power?
Please include replacement speakers for bookshelf and floor standing 8 and 4 ohms. Everyone nowadays is doing videos on car speakers but home stereo receivers.
Do I need a box for these? I'm looking for rear speakers for my Integra sedan. 6.5 and found these for a good deal. If know, what would a good daily driver be in the 6.5 range. I love my loud bass. Currently have 2 sundown 15s with a Orion 5000 watt amp. My rear speakers could couldn't take it anymore
I like the pioneer 6.5 better it gives you more midbass like what you expect from a midbass woofer the pioneer super tweeter would make up for the clarity of the midbass
HELP!!!! So I bought infinity kapp and refernece for car and the kappas were upfront but they crapped out on me. Keep the rear as reference but looking for front speakers. I paid 160 for the kappas
Can u put the bass rockers 6.5 neodynium vs the prv 6.5 neodynium these two speakers are put agaist eachother would like your opinion on which is better and great videos
Im in Greece and as I can see from any site its not worth to buy Orion in terms of the price that goes up with shippinh and taxes,can you suggest a same range speaker that can come without so much taxes in Greece? I love your videos and comparisons they are precise AF!!
The Orion's are loud but the pioneers reproduce mid-range way better. If you just want loud, sure, go with the Orion's. If you want you music played right, well, you know where I'm going with this.
@@mallorycainjr.1921 subs are good for the 80hz and bellow. Maybe 100hrz. Any higher and it would be easy to be localized. Mid-range is a compleatly different sound spectrum.
@@andraeb1981 so what speaker is the go too? I'm trying to replace my front door speakers I got 18 year old kenwood dual mag component speakers and for the subs I have 2 rf hx2s. I'm a musical guy so I was looking for speakers where I can hear the guy snapping in the back with the pianos or the snares and the kicks the saxophone I want to hear everything. I dont have a amp but the components throughout the years sounded nice until now. I got a 02 chevy impala 6.5 in the front. I was looking at the orion, infinity ref-6530cx, CT sounds meso and strato speakers and maximo 6 speakers. I was gonna get the infinities but the 3 ohms is throwing me off and I think my radio can only take 4-8 plus my rears are 4 ohm its tuff man 🤣
I just bought this speakers. ( DB)..... AP- M67AF? There is not a good video of this guys of good reviews but I bought them case they're 1.75" coils that was the only reason .
I like how you've added the speaker icon to show which is playing 👍
You know its a good speaker when it puts a smile on your face. Im looking to upgrade my speakers and definitely considering Orion!
Just ordered some Orion XTR65.SC, partially based off of your reviews of these Orions. Thanks!
It's not the same one he is demonstrating.
baby41 Mr.bridgers I realize that, thanks.
@@baby41mr.bridgers87 "partially" i think is the qualifier there. meaning not because they are the exact.
I love the xtr 6.5 components I've had 2 sets 1 on my front and 1 on the rear doors for couple of years now and I just finished adding 2 pairs of of the xtr pro xpm8"s to both sets making them into a 3 way component sets running it all active off a dsp and man it sounds so good orion needs to make a 3way setup even if they just did it with a 6.5",4" & the xtr tweet it'd still sound so good
Nice to see your videos get better and better as your channel grows. Keep up the good editing and great work.
The Pioneers hold more midbass better: Look at his reactions throughout the 1st song!!🤔 But the orions have a better overall balanced sound. I prefer more midbass with a tweeter added separately. the Orion's are great speakers but they're Too damn BIG!! Too much modifying to do look how big the spacer rings are!! Like Mike says we need Neo versions of these and other loudspeakers GREAT video👍👍
Here´s your Orion with Neo magnet ;D ----- HCCA 64N ----- ;)
That's because the Orions aren't the box and they still sound better
jason mason yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I guess if you have the room and have a good EQ and X- Over system, the Orion would be choice. The pioneer with a good tweeter will do just as good. I think the Orion is good if your running a lot of power. Plus it depends if you get 8 or 4 ohms. That will have an effect on your set up.
I have neo's and the basket it big orion is just over sized won't fit in my bike
I had the hcca 64n I have the XTR 64n and mobile quartz 216 series ,,mobile courts are the same in height as the hcca 64's the xtr64n are 3/4 in shorter much more shallow speaker,,((mid& High only , nothing lower than 150 Hertz on the xtr64n
I actually picked the pioneer because I'm going to be running subs and tweeters. If I was just looking for an all around speaker, I'd get the Orion.
Nice, what about trying the 3 different Orion speakers you have in comparison!
a tip : watch movies at flixzone. I've been using it for watching loads of movies recently.
@Tony Sutton Definitely, been using Flixzone} for months myself :)
Hello my name is Orion and I'm here to get loud and louder until no speaker is left to beat.
dude your channel got me obsessed with pro mids! they are soooo much better that car speakers!
Watching from Suriname 🇸🇷 , awesome channel I bought 4 off these orion midrange speakers before watching this and now I’m even more exited , keep it up 👍🏽
Excellent Video and sound tests.... Just ordered the Orion. But im had myself asking whats the difference with the XTR Pro and the HCCA besides the price... Think you can compare them together?
LIVE CHAT was good Im gonna do that more often 😂👍
very good for Orion :) but if you want this a beast the GROUND ZERO GZCM 8-4PPX i think destroy it :) i you have the possibility try it tnx tony from italy :) of course new sub :)
@@antonioc.3449 welcome to real life and salute to Italy
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels man why don’t you break the speakers up a little more?
Your calling it the best midrange /midbass but it looks like you have a lot of coaxials on the table.
Mid range/mid bass speaker should be dedicated to mid range and mid bass- not which one sounds more clear. EDIT: clear would be a good thing, what I meant was which one does full range best in other words no highs necessary to win. After all it is a mid range. But to each his own!
Love your vids tho , but as long as your testing can I ask that favor? Lol
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XPM654MBF is no longer available and neither is the HCCA64NHP - pisses me off the 2 speakers I want are both discontinued... I ordered the HCCA64NHP and they sent me the HCCA68NHP and I requested a swap, they told me the HCCA64NHP is no longer available and HCCA68NHP was only one left and the only 4ohm in that class was HCCA64N at 100w RMS less AND get this... the PRICE was HIGHER! FFS, Orion left a bad taste in my mouth after this... they called me yesterday to deal with this and nothing... All I wanted was a refund, I guess I will go DS18 now.
That orion is killing it across the board
Almost to 10K 👀 . keep it up bro. 👍👍
You definitely need to tryout a DS18 PRO HY6.4MSL 6.5” speakers. Absolutely love them! HIGHLY recommend!
Bought the XTX Orion 6.5" love them. Thanks for the review
We need to get the Soundqubed QP-MR 6.5, the SSA Evil 6.5, the Fi N.7, the Crescendo UN65 and the Rockville RM64PRO in the ring!
Yep step by step )
Avatar mbr 6.5 budget with soundqubed 6.5 skar fsx .
Timpano tpt 6.5
I'm curious as to how the Fi n.7 would compare. I personally love them but there is not much info online about them.
I love your videos. Do you think you could do one with the best results from the different price ranges? like $50 and under, 50-100, 100+? I don't exactly have a ton of room for those Orions, is there a set that are maybe a little smaller? I know you have reviewed the xtr's do you think they are the best in their price range and size?
Yes Im gonna do that Im ordering a bunch of mediums so will run them with each other
Hello mate! Do you recommend the pionner drivers for and SQL system? And if so what you think is the ideal high pass crossover point for them? Cheers
At first I was thinking the Pioneer Pro was disappointing in this test - but after more listening, I'm beginning to feel as though the Orion sounds louder because it has more dynamic range - however, what I'm questioning is how each speaker would sound when properly paired-up with a tweeter/bullet etc, to produce a full sound - because now, I'm thinking the Orion may result in an overly bright setup, as there will be overlap between the mid to high frequency - which may or may not work against it, in terms of overall sound balance and quality.
Does that make any sense?
Makes sense, but that's why lpf exists, just cut off the higher frequencies and it's done😉
@@justinatmidi not really, material of speaker and it's design will affect brightness
@@Anthony-cc8bx that's why eq exists, to adjust and taylor it to your liking
Every component has a sound signature. Like each speaker will never sound the same and the EQ will not be able to make it sound like another speaker because of the bleeding of frequencies into each other making it complex. It's better to start off with a sound signature which you like.
Hey i heard B2 Audio rage power series are the best. What do you think?
No doubt the ORION kicks ass!! Thanks for video bro✌
I love these pioneers I have the 8's but that Orion sounds so much better👍
Hey Mike can you test the Orion xtr805 neo please the 8 inch
Orion Rocked had my headset on! Fun comparison I like it loud! I had as much gun as you thanks!
i want to build a nice and strong costum car audio, but i havent decided about the midrange speakers what is better (6x)6,5 inch or (4x)8 inch speakers ? for loud and quality sound?
also i want your opnion for sp audio speakers
what is the cutout size for the magnet and depth of the speaker, thank you.
I dont know what to do about my system. I have a 2015 chrysler 300. I want tweeters in dash 6.5mid range in doors, and 6x9 full range in the rear with 12 in sub. I already have an amp for sub and 6 channel audio control d-6 1200. I just dont know what speakers to buy for my doors. Any suggestion speakers for the sound stage im trying to go for
what would the Orion xpm658mbf sound? According to Orion it should react the same just would pull less power than the 4 Ohm version . What do you think?
18 sound 6nd430 or orion xpm654mbf which one is better?
Does the orion fit doors? Without modifications?
I have a question what kind of amp you using ?
Hey Mike . Excellent Videos my brother 👊🏾!! Loved the unbiased reviews and real life comparisons .. When is the next video being posted ??
Hi thank you for watching) im doing deaf bounce and bunch of other high ends speakers now soon ill start uploading
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels looking forward to the reviews soon !! I am almost sold on the Orion’s and I am looking at purchasing the 3 pairs of 8s and 3 pairs of 6.5s, but waiting on your new reviews to pull the trigger. Excited to hear the outcome of the next upload 😃😃. Let’s see if Orion will come out king.
@@wendellpaul9143 @Wendell Paul I'm wondering the same. I had a hard time finding the Orion's in stock that he reviewed. I have a ne hi's amp on the way (425 watts rms x4 @ 2 ohm stereo) it will be here tomorrow and NEED to get some mids on the way lol Mike Angel's any info would be much appreciated 💪👊
Where do you even find those orion's anymore? they are sold out everywhere online.
Love your videos man, I’m going to try these Orion’s in my current build
Wait till i do arnolds
@@LIFEINSPEED Arnold's.. Idk to me they are just like lots... Same thing different sticker..
Assuming no high pass filter on either? Is this run in active or using passives?
Is there an 8” speaker that Orion makes that’s equivalent to this 6.5”???
Pioneers imo bro! More deep sound. Definitely going to put the M-650’s in my bike. I’m ready to take those TS-M650 pros off your hands! LOL
Philly 3099 ppl don’t understand the pioneers have better control through the frequency range which will make it easier to tune
Curt August well said!
which speaker is that? I know its an Orion but what model, the HCCA?
How about doing a video of some 6.5 Orion cobalt midrange coxals vs some JL Audio c2650 as well as some midrange speakers from both companies? Plus keep up the good work. Your channel has definitely helped me in choosing the right system for my car.
Is it O-Ryan or Or-eon
Would love to see the marin speaker sound quality
ya but, how do Orions and the Pioneer pro sound at low-moderate volume? like say 50 watts.
---I listen loud most of the time, but also like speakers that sound good at lower volumes. Would you recommend the B&C or do the Orions sound good at lower power?
both sounds amazing on low volume But Orion is better
Please include replacement speakers for bookshelf and floor standing 8 and 4 ohms. Everyone nowadays is doing videos on car speakers but home stereo receivers.
Now that the XMP654MBF is no longer made, what midbass is its replacement from Orion? Which one is the next best thing to buy?
Yeah bro they sold out right away we waiting to them to bring it back
What about massive audio m6.5?
I want a battle between SP Audio 200RMS 16cm against the Orion:-)
I love Orion!!!! Thanks for your videos Mike
the skar with the ds18 tweeter sounded good. do these 6.5 speakers win by a long shot or close?
What amp are you using to drive the speakers? How many watts are you pushing to them?
Orion HCCA 1200.2
Love what your doing keep those videos coming 💪🏽👍🏽
Do I need a box for these? I'm looking for rear speakers for my Integra sedan. 6.5 and found these for a good deal. If know, what would a good daily driver be in the 6.5 range. I love my loud bass. Currently have 2 sundown 15s with a Orion 5000 watt amp. My rear speakers could couldn't take it anymore
Yep get them or neos tune them 140hz and you will enjoy loudness
Have you ever tested mmats pro audio
I would like to see the orion go heads up against the lanzar opti6pm.
Idk but think the opti would be a good contender
Please crescendo UN's I think they win over all in terms of loudspeaker capability.
Please put the orion 8inches /8ohms i wanna see it how IT works. It's only 99usd/pair on Amazon
Orion for the win!!!
I like the pioneer 6.5 better it gives you more midbass like what you expect from a midbass woofer the pioneer super tweeter would make up for the clarity of the midbass
HELP!!!! So I bought infinity kapp and refernece for car and the kappas were upfront but they crapped out on me. Keep the rear as reference but looking for front speakers. I paid 160 for the kappas
hahahahaha you make my day mike good job! we need your help!! thank you !!
What Orion is that one with the foam build up. Thanks
Mike are you working on your new videos. Still waiting.......
Very soon I'm editing one )
where can i get the Orion or something as loud? looks like they got discontinued
Get pioneer or deaf bonce
Can u put the bass rockers 6.5 neodynium vs the prv 6.5 neodynium these two speakers are put agaist eachother would like your opinion on which is better and great videos
Yes i will
one of the problem is a lot of these mid-bass midrange speakers are not available anymore.
What happened to the zt6 vs the orion
Can you put HCCA654NHP vs xpm658mbf? If you get a chance...or which one do you think is better??
Yep soon
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels can’t wait dying to buy 8 of which ever sounds best for the maxima to add to the Orion hcca 15 in sub...
Just wowww orion is killing it holy smokes super loud like sheeshhh lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im in Greece and as I can see from any site its not worth to buy Orion in terms of the price that goes up with shippinh and taxes,can you suggest a same range speaker that can come without so much taxes in Greece? I love your videos and comparisons they are precise AF!!
Salute to our friend from Greece ) wat i have another speakers im testing now wait until I upload some new ons
When will the new videos be uploaded cant wait to see
Test the Faital Pro 6FE200 I want to know your opinion.
Hi love your video orion it is
Idk? I feel kinda partially to the 8" prv bullet.
Great video just wish the test was done using variety of genres instead of one.
did u ever tried 18sound 6ND410?
I'm interested in seeing CT sounds, Dayton, SB Acoustics, Anarchy 7 inch and B2 Audio.
Please do a review of ct sound meso 6.5s :)
Maybe the pioneer just needed more power and and a set of tweeters? The Orion just sounded a little harsh
Can we slide some, made in USA speakers into the mix. Like Digital Design audio.
yep you right I have to do that
Orion HCCA64N 1400 Watt 4-Ohm Loud Car Audio High Efficiency Mid-Range Speakers
Neo version
HI there, which is better the XTX654 or the XTR650 NEO 6.5?
Neo all day
Thnx man.. love ur videos❤❤🔊🔊🔊🔊
I'd like to see you compare these to the Focal 6WM 6/12 utopia
Where's the footage of the yellow cone Lanzar?
Never new Orion was that bad ass
I think somebody should make videos on customizing home speakers.
It would be great to see you compare the Orion XPM654MBF XTR Pro 6.5 vs Rockford Fosgate PPS4-6 Punch Pro 6.5
I did already Check my 6.5 midbass playlist
@@LIFEINSPEED ok.....will check it out....Thanks....I love your videos...start watching them today & I'm now a subscriber 😁
Patiently waiting
Thanks for the Upload.
Really put a smile on my face.
I want those exact Orion’s but I can’t find them, the link you put for amazon only brings up a 1300 watt speaker 😞
Thats why Im telling they dot have get neos little expensive but good speakers
The Orion's are loud but the pioneers reproduce mid-range way better. If you just want loud, sure, go with the Orion's. If you want you music played right, well, you know where I'm going with this.
What if you got subwoofers?
@@mallorycainjr.1921 subs are good for the 80hz and bellow. Maybe 100hrz. Any higher and it would be easy to be localized. Mid-range is a compleatly different sound spectrum.
@@andraeb1981 so what speaker is the go too? I'm trying to replace my front door speakers I got 18 year old kenwood dual mag component speakers and for the subs I have 2 rf hx2s. I'm a musical guy so I was looking for speakers where I can hear the guy snapping in the back with the pianos or the snares and the kicks the saxophone I want to hear everything. I dont have a amp but the components throughout the years sounded nice until now. I got a 02 chevy impala 6.5 in the front. I was looking at the orion, infinity ref-6530cx, CT sounds meso and strato speakers and maximo 6 speakers. I was gonna get the infinities but the 3 ohms is throwing me off and I think my radio can only take 4-8 plus my rears are 4 ohm its tuff man 🤣
You need to review cerwin vega with the Red foam 500 watts the best 6 by 9s please check it out
I just bought this speakers. ( DB)..... AP- M67AF? There is not a good video of this guys of good reviews but I bought them case they're 1.75" coils that was the only reason .
For the Orions to sound like that and not be in the box.... That's the better Mid
suppose to be mid-bass. not highs that's what the mid/tweet is for
I'm planning to buy 4 Orion xtx654 based on your reviews Mike. If I dont like the sound I will check you for a rebate or refund. Lol
Bro hold on in ordering arnolds and bunch other ons just wait )
How does infinity kappa compare to orion?
kappa is small guy comparing to pro audio
The Orion is almost there on the bass but the pioneer has better presence imo.
Compare the audison to the Orion
Great job mike your the blast
Been looking for those orion but theyre out of stock everywhere
Yep they will be back to stock soon
Just subbed bro