Installing Wire Rope Clips - The Right Way
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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In this video, we'll show you how to use and install Wire Rope Clips. We demonstrate the processes of assembling an eye on a wire rope, using a pulley as a thimble, creating a lap splice to connect two sections of wire rope, using and sizing vinyl-coated cable, and how to use and assemble stamped cable clamps.
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0:28 Terminology of Wire Rope Clip Parts
1:12 Materials for Assembly of Wire Rope Clips
1:33 Seizing Cable
1:55 Measuring Turnback Length
2:22 Applying Wire Rope Clips to Wire Rope
4:10 Test Working Load on Assembly
4:32 Termination Efficiency
5:09 Reusing Wire Rope Clips
5:58 Pulley Assembly
6:20 Fist Grip Clips
6:44 Vinyl-Coated Cable
8:46 Assembling a Lap Splice
10:08 Stamped Cable Clamps
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Im here because I'm connecting a stainless steel wire rope to a 2hp submersible well pump as a safety cable. As a back up. Using stainless steel clamp assembly. Thank you for your video. I was going to do 3 clamps at the end and alternate the saddles. Glad i saw this. I wont now. Pump and my galvanized pipe will weigh about 890 lbs. In order to not lose or srop anything in a 260 ft well, its important my wire rope is secure and tight.
Excellent video! I saw a 1/8” wire rope kit at the hardware store and figured it’d be great to string some lights over my backyard. I definitely would have saddled a dead horse had I not watched this video.
I’ll say though, it’s harder than you make it look. I ended up securing the wire in a woodworking clamp while I attached the clips, and I still had trouble getting them lined up. No matter how careful I was, I could never get the clips pointed in exactly the same direction after tightening. I know this isn’t a “real” issue, but as a perfectionist it bothers me.
thanks for taking the time to record- very informative!
I'm rearranging my garage with unistrut, came across a couple videos using cables to reinforce and/or add functionality to strut assemblies. Those 2 videos led me to you. I'm glad they did. I've used wire ropes on various projects, successfully and with out issue. However seeing this video, I now realize the things that I didn't know before that I'm glad to know now. Kind of a "you don't know what you don't know" moment.
I really appreciate the informative and direct to the point format of this video, as well as the detailed explanations. I subscribed to your channel just based on this video because I appreciate your content. Thank you for providing this information in a simple and easy to digest way. It seems as though you are only intermittently active, just posting to provide quality content. If you enjoy making videos, you should collaborate with others that have knowledge to share in other trades or skills. Bringing your quality production/editing style to videos about other topics would be a worthwhile endeavor if you actually enjoy doing it.
I was reading a text description of the usage of wire rope clips in my school reading material and I could not make any sense of it. The visual demonstration offered by this video has made all of that clear. Thank you!
Thank you for such a comprehensive tutorial on wire clips! I certainly have an all new appreciation for this job now. You taught me what I need to know.
Fantastic video! Clear, concise, and complete!
This video satisfies my ocd
Really helpful video. Thanks for taking the time to make and post it.
Excellent Video! Thank you! Very comprehensive.
Thank you for that video, I was not sure how to do it correctly. cheers, Howard in Brisbane Australia
Helpful information, thank you !
Very helpful, thank you.
Very helpful. Thanks
Thanks for this very informative and greatly understandable video. Well done!!👍👍
Thank god I really needed this!
This is how you do an instructional video! Well done- Watched at 1.5x speed and it was perfect.
Very good overview
Great video thankyou ! I'm creating a gym pulley system
The most played segment is just EPIC!
Great video
This is the BEST instructional vid I have seen on this topic. Thank you!
wish I would have seen your website before! Would have saved me a ton of money. Great video,Thanks!
VERY very helpful as I set up cable for my home workout room! Much safer than what I had planned on doing for connecting to my lat bar and pulley. THANKS!
Glad it helped!
Helpful thanks!
Thank you so much. Very clear and concise! You have saved many homeowner diy'ers 💰💰💰
That's why we're here! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the video =)
Very useful
"Don't saddle a dead horse (wire)". Now that's memorable.
Very nice
Excellent informative tutorial, Thanks very much, I will soon be applying what I have learned here.
Mike
EXCELLENT INSTRUCTIONS VERY HELPFUL THANKS ❤
Very nice work, well done instructional vid !
Thank you! We are glad that it helped!
Thank you so much
Great video. Making them was very easy and they worked well
Great to hear!
Very well explained. Very useful information.
Great information, I have completed projections after viewing your video.Thanks
A pesar de no saber Inglés puede entender perfectamente el video para hacer mi proyecto.
Thanks
I will definitely vouch for stripping the plastic before attaching the clips! (though the advice is two broken ribs and a lacerated spleen too late)
And thanks for explaining the "don't saddle a dead horse".
Since my injury (almost two decades ago), I've read somewhere that the best way to make a safe termination is to loop back twice, so that the two kinks in the wire stop the wire from slipping through. Has anyone done any experiments to find out if this is true?
Subscribed! Great information, thanks 👍
I just found your video
I didn’t strip the coating for my 1/8 coated cable
The coating broke and the cable came loose
This is for landscape lighting so not a lot of stress
Hey JM, thanks for the comment! Replying mainly for other viewers' sake. YES, always strip the vinyl coating from where you plan to install your first wire rope clip all the way through the dead end of the cable. Much like your situation, the vinyl coating will weaken over time causing the splice to fail. Even in landscape lighting and other light-load scenarios, it's important to have a safe and secure connection to whatever you're suspending
Very interesant !
Useful video.
YOU get 100% strenght when cable is braided proberly your method is gessing the strength. Im a retired union pipe fitter and when we rig with a crane we must prove the equiptments lifting capacity not guess.
Pleasy muy bueno puede ser subtitulado lo nesecito para seguridad e higiene thanks
Thanks, im a novice rigger and need as much info as possible.
Great video. Which clamps are the strongest? I'm tiring down my Rv to some Earth anchors..
Geeat learning. Can u do a video of which (n/m)tourque wrench should we use for different size of cable nd what r the torque need for different size cables
We have that information available on our product pages. www.e-rigging.com/Galvanized-Drop-Forged-Wire-Rope-Clips_c_3717.html
Bagus ada gunanya buat saya jadi tahu
You'd make a great 1st grade teacher!
Looks like you could vice the sides of the stamped double clip after torquing the nuts.
Former Comm tower climber here. This video can save a life and structure from collapsing for real. Always use a thimble
Thanks Matt! Fully agreed!
Is there any OSHA reference on this? Thanks very good video
what part do I need for a removeable cable wire I'll be using for outside canvas hung on an arbor that can be taken down for storms.
Can we use this type of clips in the gym??
do you use lock washers on the wire rope clips ?
dumb question but is this better than crimping? I'm trying to set up some steel rope for our boxing ring.
I just used this similar technique to fix my winch cable on my ATV for plowing snow hope it holds up haha random comment for the day
great video thank you! I would appreciate some help since I'm very amateur with these applications. I do some DIY installations for myself and I want a very thin wire that will go from wall to wall ( 4m length). Since my wire is a lot stronger than the weight I that intent to use (it can hold 40kg while i barely need 4kg) is it possible to just do a knot with the wire and not use all these bolts? thank you!
Can you make tutor for aircraft landing gear cable rigging
When applying the clamps always remember never saddle a dead horse
how much inch or foot lbs. do i use on a 3/16 wire rope clip ?
Great video. What kind of tape do you use to tape the rope ends? I can't find anything called "seizing tape". Thanks.
Black Electrical tape is often sufficient
Never knew. Know now
Never saddle a dead horse
Glad I saw this video or I wouldn't have known to "don't saddle a dead horse." I would have messed it up.
As someone who grew up around horses, I totally disagree with him. I’ve lost several horses that were really close to me over the years, and I’ve always continued to saddle them after death, for even as long as 6 months in some cases. I think it’s a great way to honor them, and it causes no harm to anyone. The real saying should be to “never ride a dead horse,” as I’ve attempted to do on multiple occasions, injuring myself each and every time. I now know from experience that you should never ride a dead horse, with or without a saddle. Saddling a dead horse, however, is a perfectly safe and fun activity for the whole family, and I’d recommend it to anyone lucky enough to own a dead horse and a saddle. This man may know something about wire rope, but he obviously has no understanding of deceased horses. He should probably stay in his lane, and leave dead horses to the dead horse experts.
@@chriswebster24Sick and twisted. That’s awesome!!!!
Outstanding video, thank you. I'm using this sort of cable to hang a plant in a basket from an oak tree. I plan for the cable to form a closed loop around the limb of the tree using two interconnected eyes. I've taped off the cable ends using duct tape and have the outer saddles placed over the duck tape, is that acceptable? Also, what is meant by the 5:1 design factor? I've cable that has a working load limit of 740 lbs. Is it safe to hang a plant weighing up to 592 lbs.? By the way, will the thickness of the cable expand or contract over time? Thanks for any additional info.
We don't recommend that you place anything besides cable in the compression area of the wire rope clips. Although if one layer of the tail of the tape is just slightly held in the edge of the saddle, that shouldn't be too big of an issue. See our comments in the video regarding stripping the vinyl coating from the cable before tightening because it will reduce the load holding ability. Tape would be the same concept. Design factor is the ratio between the breaking strength and the rated working load limit. In this case a 5:1 design factor means the cable assembly will break 5 times the working load limit. Design factor is intended to buffer against unexpected swinging loads, old worn out cable, and general long term service life. If the working load limit is greater than the load you are supporting, then you should be fine. Please visit E-Rigging.com to learn more, or get in touch with our support staff.
@@E-rigging Understood. Thanks for all the additional info.
Not to beat a dead horse but what's the best way to attach a CAT5 cable to the supporting wired catenary cables? Surely not zip ties?
Do you ever loctite your bolts? Great vid thanks
Hey Erik, typically loctite is not used for the nuts and bolts on wire rope clips, but we don't see any reason as to why you wouldn't be able to do that.
Thanks for the question!!!!
Can you electrify this type of cable?
Can u pls suggest me
For gym 6 mm cables what size of trimbles should i use
M16
Or
M18
Or any other sizes
6mm is nearly 1/4". Use the matching size thimbles for the cable you are using.
I noticed that there are no locknuts or lock washers on the u-bolts. Is it recommended to use either of these or to use Locktight?
No locknuts or lock washers are required or recommended. Proper torquing is designed to hold the nuts from backing off.
Very well done, thank you. For some reason I can't wrap my head around the reason why installing the clip in any direction would change anything, mechanically speaking. Any idea?
Well, you always want the saddle of the clip to be on the what's referred to as the live end of the cable. The saddle of the wire rope clip offers the most support and securement to the cable, rather than the u-bolt. One way to think about it would be that the u-bolt is designed to hold secure the cable to the saddle.
The way I think of it is-the saddle has grooves that grip, so it grabs the part of the cable that gets pulled on (live end). The dead end is 'after the fact'. If it was the other way around it would try to tighten the loop.
I found out the U bolt can weaken the wire rope and assist in causing a failure. Wasn’t me, it was a boss I had for about a week before I decided there were safer paychecks elsewhere.
Do I use 1/4" clamps for 1/4" cable, or do I need 1/2" clamps?
Yes, if you are using 1/4" cable, use 1/4" clamps.
Is it necessary to use the thimble with the wire rope clips? I notice the thimble is left there when using the normal rope clips but is not left there when using the stamped cable clamps.
The thimble is recommended and it helps reinforce the eye from getting frayed and losing strength. The eye tends to be where the cable wears out quickest without the thimble. Considering how cheap and strong they are, there’s really no reason not to use them.
When working with diameters, how do you slide the u bolt and saddle all the way to the thimble. Doing so by hand seems impossible, and I'm struggling to get within 3 inches of the thimble on a 3/8 1x19 application.
James, Once you get the first clip on you can place the thimble and cable eye in a vise to hold it together while you fasten the remaining clips. Or you can hand fasten the remaining clips on the cable and slide them up by force with a light tap from a hammer on the saddle.
What is the size of this cable?
Would this work for rope? Looking just at attach a C-clam to pull maybe 100 pounds.
What reference material specifies the turnback length?
ASME B30.9 This video is more for DIY home use and not true rigging
what is the wire size you use on this video?
This is 3/8" 7x19 cable
One criticism.... you should explain WHY one should never "saddle a dead horse"
Thanks for that suggestion! We're coming out with new and updated content soon, so we'll make sure to cover this topic more fully.
You'll scare every other horse in the barn...
For reference material why didn't you tell us what torque your particular example called for ? Missed opportunity .
Nearly got it right
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Can't seem to get my thimble tight enough in the loop. Does anyone know can I loosen the saddles and start over? Or once you tighten everything that's all she wrote?
That’s currently my dilemma too-having issues getting the loop tight
One day I’m going to knock someone’s socks off by knowing this 🤣
😂😂
Funny enough the next day I was talking to my friend’s boyfriend and said “never saddle a dead horse” and he was so impressed! I couldn’t believe I got to flex this so soon! 😂 thanks for the video, I’m going to have the sickest string light setup in the neighborhood (let’s be real probably the whole town 🤣)
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Never saddle a dead horse. This has been a problem for a long time. I have seen people who, you would think, would know better . I find it best to explain why. It's the u-bolt. The u-bolt deformes the wire, lessening the wires' strength . The dead end does not see the tension force as the live end. Would you ever saddle a dead horse?
You said:Neve apply the saddle of the clip to the dead end. Why?I couldnt underestad. May you explane more please?
In order to provide the best strength and longevity to your cable, you must attach the "saddle" portion of the clip to the "live" end of the cable. The dead end will touch the U-Bolt side.
@@E-rigging Thanks so much🌷🌷🌷
This guy is great. The complex and difficult presented simply and informatively. Good camera work too.
Señor, ese morseto está armado al revés. La línea viva es la.que lleva el hojal del morseto y no al revés. ASME b30.26 y ASME b30.10
I want to produce a rope from discarded clutch wires of motor cycles. This rope would be used to tow a car. The length may be 10 to 12 ft.
I really liked this presentation...BUT, at 6:38 he is using the adjustable wrench backwards! Drives me crazy, like using a file wrong. I know, I sometimes do it as well...but I don't let anyone watch!
I was just about to make the same comment. Something like that makes me think the guy is a model because I was stopped from doing that at about 7 by my grandfather.
That’s the best way, lead with the fixed jaw. Only use the spanner the other way when you need to in a restricted space. When you lead with the trailing jaw it carries the load further out from the screw and puts more leverage/strain on it.
Look at a spanner on a nut and check where the corner of the nut contacts the jaw when turning.
Didn't include the thimble in the needed tools and materials-
"Don't saddle a dead horse" - does it really matter? Do you have test data that shows it makes a difference?
Great question! Although the saying has become colloquially accepted as "best practice", test data has shown that the WLL is greatly reduced on a rig if the dead end is saddled. Even if one clip is improperly installed, it can compromise the load capacity. Here are some practical reasons why this happens:
1) The U-bolt could pinch/crush the internal core of the live end. The live end is especially important since it's the part of the eye splice that's supporting the load. This type of damage is especially dangerous since you can't see the IWRC to inspect it.
2) Wire rope clips have a zinc-plated U-bolt which is less "grippy" than the saddle of the clip. The chances of the live end slipping through the U-bolt is greater than if the saddle is oriented incorrectly.
Hope this answers your question!
@@E-rigging Thank you for your informative answer. I can appreciate why U-bolt crushing of the live end should be avoided.
Old sailor/rigger, sayin- "Never saddle a "DEAD" HORSE". !
Wired flex but okay.
These clamps probably do not need an excessive amount of foot-pounds to tighten them in place, but if you are tightening anything heavier, flip that wrench over (at 6:37) so that the force is coming from the more massive part of the wrench. The smaller (movable) part of the wrench can break off under a heavy load. Maybe even worse is that you will not get any sympathy from the mechanics that use the wrench correctly, especially after putting it in a video and posting it.
A serious mechanic doesn't use cheap Chinese tools.. Just saying... bad form...