The project is a success. That is an absolutely gorgeous and elegant rifle in a tasteful configuration. Your choice of caliber is also superb. That rifle would be the absolute star of 99% of gun collections in the world. I am totally blown away.
It's not everyday that a person gets to see a *true* custom gun, and even rarer to see both a prototype and finished product, especially one so beautifully finished and mechanically executed. I fall into the camp of people who favor manual actions, and my gun collection is quite small, with the only autoloader I have being my carry gun for the last 25+ years, a Smith & Wesson 1006 10mm Auto. Everything else is bolt action, lever action, pump action, or a revolver. It's good to know that there are still some people out there who understand that there's something to be said for good old fashioned walnut and steel and taking the time to focus on marksmanship.
I watched one of your videos about 4 hours ago and still watching. I appreciate your passion for your collection and the history of firearms. Regarding your project, it's nice work. Where would we be without the ideas of John Moses Browning--Winchester, Samuel Colt, Smith & Wesson, and other European firearm inventors. There is no such thing as a bad idea. Firearms are art with a purpose. Some of us appreciate the art as much as the purpose. Your blessed to be able to use your creative mind and the resources to put the paint on the canvas. Thank you for your videos.
Gorgeous rifle, sir. Truly a work of art and would be the pride of any collection. I actually came across your channel because I too have always wanted a falling block double and you took that and made it a reality! You have an excellent channel and a truly fantastic collection and I do appreciate you sharing it with your viewers.
Thank you for writing and for watching. Someone should go ahead and build some falling block doubles. Maybe I should contact one of the overseas manufacturers. I'll see what happens next. Cheers.
I have always had a special place in my heart for side by side rifles, in-spite of never owning or even shooting one. Your falling block design is beautiful and fascinating, I would certainly quantify its production as a success. I’m a younger gun enthusiast, and I hope that my generation embraces the finer things, and tradition, and heritage. So that quality firearms that are functioning works of art, can live on and be passed down for generations. I appreciate your videos and your sharing your collection and knowledge with us. Thank you.
I have watched thousands of videos but never commented on one until now. What an absolutely beautiful and amazing rifle I would be in heaven to hold let alone own such a work of art and genius thanks for spending the time and money creating it and thank you so much for sharing.
That's a truly incredible rifle. I think even though it would be expensive to build I think guys like yourself that have a true appreciation for a fine elegant gun would pay for it. Thanks that was very interesting.
Absolute genius, the Hagen rifles you have shown are things of pure beauty and the fact that it was your idea to create it is wonderful. I have a limited rifle budget to there aren't any falling blocks that I will be able to afford. And that the shame because but every one that I have seen is a work of art.
Hey I just watched this video where you talk about this rifle that you designed, really impressive stuff man. It's a great looking gun, you should be proud of yourself. I constantly have ideas that I mull over and then come back to and ponder some more. I like to try and think of new or possibly modified versions of existing calibers. Like you said there's very little that hasn't already been done but still it's fun to try and think of new ideas for guns and so forth. You never know what might come out of it, especially when there is so many different variations to consider ...
My Dear USOG, I have admired your fine collection and enjoyed your informative, yet humble presentation style for a couple of years. When I realized this video featured a bespoke rifle of your own design it sent chills down my spine. I have a love of Gunsmithing and have refurbished several guns for my friends and myself. I have even unexpectedly won a gun building contest by reworking a Sears shotgun. I have just enough knowledge to recognize a grand accomplishment when I see it. I am so proud of you to have the courage to produce your Ideal rifle. It is magnificent in design and execution. What a joy it must be for you to hold. I have always known that you are extremely well educated and have a deeper and broader knowledge or firearms than I. But I just didn’t know how far ahead of me you are. God bless you and your family and thank you for sharing a collection that is beyond me. Jim in Kentucky
Hi Jim - I am so grateful for your kind words. I tried hard and did everything I could to finally get that rifle together and working; it took more of everything than I thought - which is usually the case. I'm not so sure I'm far ahead of you - or ahead of you at all - but I did get that double done. : ) I receive so many wonderful notes and thoughts from the great people of Kentucky - one of the finest gun and hunting states and still free. God Bless you, your family and friends an it is Dec. 1 so I wish you a happy, safe, and peaceful Christmas!
It's so great to see guns in such a classy and classic presentation. Modern firearms have moved to more functional than beautiful and classy. That's not always a bad thing but I will always take the warmth of wood and blued steel.
I'm looking back through some of your older videos and I've watched this one loads of times. But your double rifle is one of the most beautiful guns I've ever seen and I have to have another look every now and then! I wish I had No. 2!!!
A really wonderful design, this would make a first class driven Boar rifle, especially in that calibre, the double trigger is essential for most double rifle applications as it gives an instant choice of solid, or soft point, and the only reason for a double discharge is that the shooter has a very strange trigger control, or the action is faulty, the recoil jolts the sear out of bent, having made several falling block rifles on the Farquharson design I can appreciate the amount of work that has gone into this masterpiece , Many thanks for posting this,(we should be neighbours). Chris B.
Incredible double rifles, very beautiful. Thank you very much for sharing! It would be very interesting to know more about the insights involved in designing and manufacturing these double rifles and particularly about that single one production run. Very interesting indeed. Greetings from Argentina!
Such a beautiful rifle. You should be very proud of your accomplishment. I'm constantly amazed at your knowledge of firearms and the beautiful examples you have in your collection.
Simply amazing sir. I would qualify that as a major success. Just a thing of beauty, mechanically and visually. If I may ask a couple of questions? I guess the first is What was the process you used to determine the configuration of the action. Like the lever closing when you pull the triggers. Using double triggers instead of a single trigger. Did you ever consider taking 2 existing actions and modifying them? Like 2 Remington rolling block or 2 Martini actions. How were you able to compensate for ammunition differences and maintain a 200 yard focal point? And a hundred more questions . You have done what I and a friend have kicked around for years. We actually have some initial concept mechanical drawings for a pair of Rolling block style actions with a single trigger and have pretty much decided on a 6.5 mm or the .444 cartridge. Any insight you have will be greatly appreciated.
Great questions. Based on what I knew from years with falling blocks I felt the span of the wider block to span two chambers was a workable idea. I had seen two Winchester 92's welded together and owned a couple of Winchester Model 24 shotguns - which is something like a double comprised of 2 single shots "connected" - and I decided the falling block double could be a stand alone design. From there it was a matter of working out the pivot points and action dimensions which had to be smaller in order to compensate for the larger width of the action - or else the action would have been too heavy. Barrel attachment was an issue and many different methods were explored - including threading - which is interesting still. The lever closing was the clever and somewhat unexpected result of how the hammer springs interact with the the block. The double triggers were a natural as one avoids another mechanism (a single trigger mechanism) and related potential problems - including where to locate a transfer bar etc... in an already tight mechanism. The whole project was interesting and maybe one day there will be a production run. I hope you go ahead with your ideas!
I’m in love with double rifles. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to buy one. This video and story is truly amazing. You are a very interesting and intelligent guy. What a beautiful double rifle. A awesome falling block design too! If you ever put these into production it would top my “guns I want to buy”! A two barrel set would be heaven. I would like a 45-70 and a 458 win mag....
I know this is a late comment but I will make it anyway. I admire your attention to detail, quality and the marrying in of practicality. I appreciate your vieos and I watch some everyday. Thanks Mike
I too like single shot rifles . I have a Ruger #1 in 25/06 , a Winchester hi-wall in 25/06 , a Pedersoli trapdoor in 45/70 and 2- 1870/71 Enfields in .577 cal.
Wow! So glad u made and posted this. Many many years ago I had wondered and hoped for the same. It's a beautiful and inspired creation. I have long considered the configuration superior to break open double rifles in several ways (using a rest or firing in the prone and kneeling position and other reasons) Would like to get me one of those in the future. Congratulations and such fine execution!
Hey, beautiful. Nicely done. I like that you chose 7x57 for the caliber. I think there would be a market for double rifles in a medium caliber, instead of the more typical big bores.
I really admire the effort you made to execute this project and its result. I saw your article in the Doublegun Journal (1998?) that showed this superb example of Austrian gunmaking. I still have that issue and kept it to read that article now and then. As much as I would like to commission one, it would only happen if I were a newly divorced single man or, alternatively, forever consigned to the couch.
I think your double would be cool with a peep sight and front blade for each barrel, I saw that somewhere on a double. Perhaps it is not necessary as the barrels are well tuned to each other, maybe it is a crazy idea, but not if you wanted each barrel a different caliber.
That's a very good idea - I remember something like that on an Italian double 45-70 - maybe they called it the Kodiak; I could be wrong. Your idea is solid as even when regulated there is a convergence point at say 100 yards - the bullets are not parallel - with separate sights each barrel could be sighted in any way the owner likes - which is your idea!
Ho WOW, I'm a fan of the Rugger No1, I had 2( I'm not a gun maniac or collector) I still own the No1 international in 30-06 and love that rifle! But that one you designed is something of beauty!! I never seen something that beautiful!! That would be my dream rifle in what I think is the best round, 30-06 of course! What an amazing feat to design and get something like that actually built, I'm so impress. I know this video is 2 years old but I'm super happy I found it! If you here of anyone currently making a double falling block I would be really interested in knowing. Again, what a fantastic looking rifle!
Thank you David! Here is a link to Bailey Bradshaw www.bradshawgunandrifle.com/rising-block-single-shot.html Bailey can build one - I have not examined one but his work is first class. Glad you are on the channel. All the best.
I like your double, much more then the one in 9.3-74, was just curious how much it cost to build that one. I have entertained ideas of building things many times, but don't have the money to. I am glad you were able to, it is very impressive.
What good fortune for me! I stumbled across your channel looking at Ruger #1 videos as I am determined to make one my next firearm purchase and then saw the title of this video and immediately hit play, 16 minutes of time well spent in my opinion. Simply put.....wow. Both those rifles are stunning, but particularly the second one. A falling block double, what a fantastic idea. I have dreamt of owning a break action classic double rifle, but I may now have a new dream!! Good for you to follow through on a project like this, easy for me to say because it wasn't my money spent, but it appears to be well worth it, I consider rifles like these to be functional art. If I win a lottery I'm asking you to commission serial #2 in 375 H&H or 450-400 NE.
Hi Jesse - such fine words and I'd build #2 in a heartbeat; but as it is, not enough demand or awareness to tool up for a production run. Maybe one day... : ) It is all good.
Absolutely stunning! Martin Hagn does incredible work. Personally, I would have gone with a more DG-appropriate cartridge, maybe a .348 or .405 Win or something. But this is something to be very proud of.
I can see the appeal in taking on a project like this. Where I live there are no regulations on black powder firearms and the building of them so I am mid build on my second bp firearm, which is going to be a percussion cap double rifle. So far it is coming along well and I must say, I believe having something you had a part in creating will always trump something the was just purchased off the rack at a shop.
Hi Jonathon - fantastic project you have going. Wish I had time - I'd love build a BP rifle. Maybe one day. Any way, I admire your spirit and dedication. Sports and beer is a lot easier; but we all know what that accomplishes. The very best to you.
USOG When you are young and broke sometimes teaching yourself how to make the things that you desire is the best way to obtain them, but nothing wrong with buying these pieces either, if only I could swing the money for them, I would aswell. Btw nice that you interact with your viewers, too many UA-cam’s forget to make that connection with the audience.
a side-sliding block could be designed (I think some were) along something similar to this, and allow for O/U (which I prefer more than SxS). That Austrian SxS is a beauty though, and I think that double rifle you had made is an improvement! With CNC being as affordable as it is, you could possibly still get it in production, you would just have to get together with other small-scale gun designers/makers and offer a handful of atypical designs at somewhat reasonable prices (For my Muzzle Loading guns I make, I have 3 finish levels: field, mid, and best; they're all good, functional guns, but the higher levels of finish have more to do with making the gun prettier and some extra fitting time, the field grade is just a plain-jane gun that functions decently). You'll never make and sell the volume Remington or Winchester do, but then again, people that want these sort of arms know that these type of guns cost more, so it works out ok in the end (just have to keep your costs down as best you can). You realistically could get your field grade models out there for about the same price ($750-800 for a single, about $1200 for a double) as the big companies' mid-range model bolt-guns (and have the same level of finish and function). You'll never compete with the budget guns ($200), but then again, you're not trying to. MFG license (for modern guns) isn't too expensive, and the Fed excise tax is only 11% on rifles and shotguns, 10% on pistols.
Hi and yes - it was pointed out to me that the Mini 14 is apparently offered in .300 - I'll have to get one - not quite the same as the M1 Carbine but close.
Hmm, I suppose it doesn't take long before upscaling the M1 Carbine's action gets you a Mini-14. Perhaps it's possible a craftsman can make a wooden stock for the Mini 14 that resembles a M1 Carbine stock?
Wow is all i can say , you did a knockout task of building a double falling block rifle .. I really like that , looks very well designed with sleek lines, very well done .. Yes you should market that double rifle ... I'm a Ruger #1 person and have been for years and love it ..One of my brothers owns 2 of the Ruger #1 rifles also ... I did own the Browning single shot falling block and like you showed.. i do like the exposed hammer but anyway my Browning which was plagued with problems from the start , firing pin bushing, to broken trigger mech . then one scope ring screw broke ( metric screws and threads , gunsmith said he could drill out all of the remaining holes and retap them ) during hunting season so that was it for the China made Browning ..I can't count how many times i had the rifle to a gunsmith .. never owned a rifle like that in my life ..
Thanks Norman - took a lot to organize and complete but at last it all cam together. So much to it - hard to believe. I think of Browning and the other really great gun designers and am in awe of their dedication, inspiration and brilliance.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have followed many firearm designers throughout my lifetime. Great inventors with a dream some made it come true for centuries in Europe and still do.. I think you did fantastic, how many folks could do that? Not many.
Damn that double of yours is so beautiful, the Hagns! I wonder of one could be commercially made the way the Rugger #1 is done do drop the cost down!! I would buy one for sure if it was in the $2000 range and in a northern canadian caliber, maybe like 35 Wheelen ..... • •
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Make that special edition in a universally useful chambering, perhaps 7x57, give us about 5 years lead time, and maybe I can save enough nickels! Its be a dream come true!
I’d pick that as my one rifle. I’d pick 22 hornet left, 243 right. That be slick Since you helped or designed it. Is a vertical milling machine, and heat treat oven enough for a guy to build it in his garage? If so what fixtures would one need. Rotary table, ect? Understanding one would use gunsmith to fit the barrel, not having enough money to buy a lathe
Hi Mike - A milling machine and files should do the trick. Parts can be hand made but a lot of work. With the drawings one could edm cut intricate parts or have them made. Same goes for heat treating - easier to send out; or go for color case hardening. Springs are easier to order. Still - everything can be done if you have one to work off of and one to build...as you likely know. Cheers.
That’s a awesome rifle it’s beautiful that’s cooler than any AK it’s a good looking rifle you did a great job I don’t know a lot about these falling block rifles but I can say it’s better looking than the first one you showed yours looks sleek and we’re as the other looked awkward as a previous comment you should be very proud of such a accomplishment
That is really a nice rifle. It would be nice if you could produce them. I would like one in 9.3 x 74R or .375 mag. Also thanks for passing on the info on not setting the rifle down on the cheek piece. I didn’t know that but I will remember and do that from now on. Great channel. Thanks.
I missed out on the Ruger #1 in .303 British but one of your rifles (if I ever won the lottery) in .303 Brit would literally be the perfect hunting rifle for the way I love to hunt!!
Hello TWP - As my Cree friend likes to say "There is bounty in everything and waiting for you." I'm sure you'll find a way to buy a .303 #1 and you know, any cal. in that rifle is fine.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns oh I know the #1 is awesome in any cartridge, Im just very partial to it. I just harvested a fall black bear that came in at just under 400lbs gross with a .303 Brit that Ive owned for almost 30 years. I own newer but that old girl has not ever let me down and is my go to for almost anything.
The world can never have too many double rifles. I’m glad you could take your idea to a finished project. Beautiful rifle!
Thanks Richard!
As a owner of a Ruger No 1, I find a thrill in anything falling block (except my car).
I love the concept of a Falling Block Double-rifle.
It's beautiful, You should to be proud of yourself. I love the design.
Thank you my friend.
Beautiful work. Not many people see guns as functional art but the ones that do will appreciate that double rifle.
The project is a success. That is an absolutely gorgeous and elegant rifle in a tasteful configuration. Your choice of caliber is also superb. That rifle would be the absolute star of 99% of gun collections in the world. I am totally blown away.
That is a rifle. The checkering alone , + concept and design. Congratulations
Thank you!
Yes, even without an HD close-up, one can see that checkering is exceptionally fine work.
These actions are timeless. I’m in the school of simplicity is often the best as reliability, especially in a weapon, is essential.
Simplicity always has a beauty to it.
That USOG N*01 is a very cool piece of craftsmanship and a thing of beauty. Thank you for taking the time to share it.
I guess I had a dream - and no 1 was the result. : )
Another thoroughly enjoyable video, very nice to hear the story of how your idea became a reality, a work of art and function. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely beautiful rifles. I have been watching all your videos and really enjoyed every single one.
It's not everyday that a person gets to see a *true* custom gun, and even rarer to see both a prototype and finished product, especially one so beautifully finished and mechanically executed.
I fall into the camp of people who favor manual actions, and my gun collection is quite small, with the only autoloader I have being my carry gun for the last 25+ years, a Smith & Wesson 1006 10mm Auto.
Everything else is bolt action, lever action, pump action, or a revolver.
It's good to know that there are still some people out there who understand that there's something to be said for good old fashioned walnut and steel and taking the time to focus on marksmanship.
Fine words PinkOld
What a beautiful piece! You and the maker are geniuses! It looks strong enough for African calibers!
I watched one of your videos about 4 hours ago and still watching. I appreciate your passion for your collection and the history of firearms. Regarding your project, it's nice work. Where would we be without the ideas of John Moses Browning--Winchester, Samuel Colt, Smith & Wesson, and other European firearm inventors. There is no such thing as a bad idea. Firearms are art with a purpose. Some of us appreciate the art as much as the purpose. Your blessed to be able to use your creative mind and the resources to put the paint on the canvas. Thank you for your videos.
What an accomplishment for a gun aficionado. Really something. I'll take one of the takedown models when you start up production ; )
Amen to that!
I never get tired of looking at firearms or shooting them. Thanks again for showing us and educating us.
Thanks Steve
very interesting stuff, keep it coming. I really enjoy the more esoteric firearms you bring to the table (literally)
I'll keep going - thanks for the support.
Gorgeous rifle, sir. Truly a work of art and would be the pride of any collection.
I actually came across your channel because I too have always wanted a falling block double and you took that and made it a reality!
You have an excellent channel and a truly fantastic collection and I do appreciate you sharing it with your viewers.
Thank you for writing and for watching. Someone should go ahead and build some falling block doubles. Maybe I should contact one of the overseas manufacturers. I'll see what happens next. Cheers.
This is fantastic. Thank you for sharing something you are so passionate about with us.
What absolutely wonderful specimens. They are beautifully made. I would absolutely love one of your No.1 designs. What a perfect double rifle.
Interesting design and great calibre. Thanks for sharing.
I have always had a special place in my heart for side by side rifles, in-spite of never owning or even shooting one. Your falling block design is beautiful and fascinating, I would certainly quantify its production as a success. I’m a younger gun enthusiast, and I hope that my generation embraces the finer things, and tradition, and heritage. So that quality firearms that are functioning works of art, can live on and be passed down for generations.
I appreciate your videos and your sharing your collection and knowledge with us. Thank you.
Beautiful! A wonderful result to a challenging project. Doesn't get more custom than designing one's own action.
Thank you very much!
I would buy that rifle if produced. Beautifully designed
Absolutely gorgeous, well done, Mike. 👏 👏👏
The shadow line on that cheek piece is quite impressive.
I have watched thousands of videos but never commented on one until now. What an absolutely beautiful and amazing rifle I would be in heaven to hold let alone own such a work of art and genius thanks for spending the time and money creating it and thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you Jared. Your kind words help me a lot. All the best to you.
This is a wonderfully designed work of art , I congratulate you.
That's a truly incredible rifle. I think even though it would be expensive to build I think guys like yourself that have a true appreciation for a fine elegant gun would pay for it. Thanks that was very interesting.
Thanks Brian - so much time and thought in these rifles. I appreciate all your notes and that you took the time to watch and write. Best to you.
Absolute genius, the Hagen rifles you have shown are things of pure beauty and the fact that it was your idea to create it is wonderful. I have a limited rifle budget to there aren't any falling blocks that I will be able to afford. And that the shame because but every one that I have seen is a work of art.
Thank you brokendad - Maybe one day I'll get back to the project and find a way to manufacture a number of these.
Hey I just watched this video where you talk about this rifle that you designed, really impressive stuff man. It's a great looking gun, you should be proud of yourself. I constantly have ideas that I mull over and then come back to and ponder some more. I like to try and think of new or possibly modified versions of existing calibers. Like you said there's very little that hasn't already been done but still it's fun to try and think of new ideas for guns and so forth. You never know what might come out of it, especially when there is so many different variations to consider ...
Thank you for your encouraging words! I hope you go ahead with your ideas; as you write...one never knows what comes out of it.
It's a wonderful rifle would love to have it although I cannot a ford it, thank you for sharing.
My Dear USOG, I have admired your fine collection and enjoyed your informative, yet humble presentation style for a couple of years. When I realized this video featured a bespoke rifle of your own design it sent chills down my spine.
I have a love of Gunsmithing and have refurbished several guns for my friends and myself. I have even unexpectedly won a gun building contest by reworking a Sears shotgun.
I have just enough knowledge to recognize a grand accomplishment when I see it. I am so proud of you to have the courage to produce your Ideal rifle.
It is magnificent in design and execution. What a joy it must be for you to hold.
I have always known that you are extremely well educated and have a deeper and broader knowledge or firearms than I. But I just didn’t know how far ahead of me you are.
God bless you and your family and thank you for sharing a collection that is beyond me.
Jim in Kentucky
Hi Jim - I am so grateful for your kind words. I tried hard and did everything I could to finally get that rifle together and working; it took more of everything than I thought - which is usually the case. I'm not so sure I'm far ahead of you - or ahead of you at all - but I did get that double done. : ) I receive so many wonderful notes and thoughts from the great people of Kentucky - one of the finest gun and hunting states and still free. God Bless you, your family and friends an it is Dec. 1 so I wish you a happy, safe, and peaceful Christmas!
It's so great to see guns in such a classy and classic presentation. Modern firearms have moved to more functional than beautiful and classy. That's not always a bad thing but I will always take the warmth of wood and blued steel.
Looks like a great design. Hopefully someday a manufacturer comes calling.
I run to the door for years when the bell rings thinking it is Ruger or Winchester or CZ coming to call!!!! Then....I remember I ordered pizza. : )
Beautiful rifle! Falling blocks are my favorite action.
Your taste in rifles is well developed! Thanks for sharing your wonderful firearms with us!
Thank you AF
I'm looking back through some of your older videos and I've watched this one loads of times. But your double rifle is one of the most beautiful guns I've ever seen and I have to have another look every now and then! I wish I had No. 2!!!
Thanks Grendel
A really wonderful design, this would make a first class driven Boar rifle, especially in that calibre, the double trigger is essential for most double rifle applications as it gives an instant choice of solid, or soft point, and the only reason for a double discharge is that the shooter has a very strange trigger control, or the action is faulty, the recoil jolts the sear out of bent, having made several falling block rifles on the Farquharson design I can appreciate the amount of work that has gone into this masterpiece , Many thanks for posting this,(we should be neighbours). Chris B.
Hi Chris - endless thinking and drawings and misguided ideas....but eventually even a blind squirrel finds an acorn : )
A very well made rifle and a great look in the falling block pattern and a double amazing.
It’s beautiful and should one day be in a gun museum.
Incredible double rifles, very beautiful. Thank you very much for sharing! It would be very interesting to know more about the insights involved in designing and manufacturing these double rifles and particularly about that single one production run. Very interesting indeed. Greetings from Argentina!
Really nice rifles. Nice design. Love the falling block double idea!
Stunning! Congrats on having it made. Excellent. 😃
Thanks Rick!
Such a beautiful rifle. You should be very proud of your accomplishment. I'm constantly amazed at your knowledge of firearms and the beautiful examples you have in your collection.
Thank you!
What a joy to see those rifles! Thanks!
I can only imagine how much that cost to produce. Work of art👍
So much time and money - like everything else - but worth it in the end. Thanks for the thumbs up!
You have undoubtedly designed the single finest, and potentially most expensive sporting rifle of all time 😍
Hi Devon - thank you so much. For sure I tried. : )
That is a beautiful rifle. I hope you do start to produce it. I would save up for one quite a while.
Maybe I should John - such a pity money got in my way - as if often does.
Simply amazing sir. I would qualify that as a major success. Just a thing of beauty, mechanically and visually. If I may ask a couple of questions? I guess the first is What was the process you used to determine the configuration of the action. Like the lever closing when you pull the triggers. Using double triggers instead of a single trigger. Did you ever consider taking 2 existing actions and modifying them? Like 2 Remington rolling block or 2 Martini actions. How were you able to compensate for ammunition differences and maintain a 200 yard focal point? And a hundred more questions .
You have done what I and a friend have kicked around for years. We actually have some initial concept mechanical drawings for a pair of Rolling block style actions with a single trigger and have pretty much decided on a 6.5 mm or the .444 cartridge. Any insight you have will be greatly appreciated.
Great questions. Based on what I knew from years with falling blocks I felt the span of the wider block to span two chambers was a workable idea. I had seen two Winchester 92's welded together and owned a couple of Winchester Model 24 shotguns - which is something like a double comprised of 2 single shots "connected" - and I decided the falling block double could be a stand alone design. From there it was a matter of working out the pivot points and action dimensions which had to be smaller in order to compensate for the larger width of the action - or else the action would have been too heavy. Barrel attachment was an issue and many different methods were explored - including threading - which is interesting still. The lever closing was the clever and somewhat unexpected result of how the hammer springs interact with the the block. The double triggers were a natural as one avoids another mechanism (a single trigger mechanism) and related potential problems - including where to locate a transfer bar etc... in an already tight mechanism. The whole project was interesting and maybe one day there will be a production run. I hope you go ahead with your ideas!
I’m in love with double rifles. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to buy one. This video and story is truly amazing. You are a very interesting and intelligent guy. What a beautiful double rifle. A awesome falling block design too! If you ever put these into production it would top my “guns I want to buy”! A two barrel set would be heaven. I would like a 45-70 and a 458 win mag....
I know this is a late comment but I will make it anyway. I admire your attention to detail, quality and the marrying in of practicality. I appreciate your vieos and I watch some everyday. Thanks Mike
Thank you Gordon - your kind words are much appreciated!
What a great looking firearm. Definitely something that I would be proud to own.
That is a very nice project you may buy and sell a lot of guns but for sure that one is a keeper for life
I too like single shot rifles . I have a Ruger #1 in 25/06 , a Winchester hi-wall in 25/06 , a Pedersoli trapdoor in 45/70 and 2- 1870/71 Enfields in .577 cal.
Hi Bill, Not too many people have a near royal flush like that - good on you.
Wow! So glad u made and posted this. Many many years ago I had wondered and hoped for the same. It's a beautiful and inspired creation. I have long considered the configuration superior to break open double rifles in several ways (using a rest or firing in the prone and kneeling position and other reasons) Would like to get me one of those in the future. Congratulations and such fine execution!
Thanks so much for sharing your collection and information!
Superb rifles, very elegant and fine, good cartridges also. Fine to see some thing different also.
That is an elegant rifle. Good show old chap.
Hey, beautiful. Nicely done. I like that you chose 7x57 for the caliber. I think there would be a market for double rifles in a medium caliber, instead of the more typical big bores.
I really admire the effort you made to execute this project and its result. I saw your article in the Doublegun Journal (1998?) that showed this superb example of Austrian gunmaking. I still have that issue and kept it to read that article now and then. As much as I would like to commission one, it would only happen if I were a newly divorced single man or, alternatively, forever consigned to the couch.
Either seems a fair trade-off!
You, Sir, are a man of exquisite taste.
Thanks Noman!
That is absolutely beautiful.
I think your double would be cool with a peep sight and front blade for each barrel, I saw that somewhere on a double. Perhaps it is not necessary as the barrels are well tuned to each other, maybe it is a crazy idea, but not if you wanted each barrel a different caliber.
That's a very good idea - I remember something like that on an Italian double 45-70 - maybe they called it the Kodiak; I could be wrong. Your idea is solid as even when regulated there is a convergence point at say 100 yards - the bullets are not parallel - with separate sights each barrel could be sighted in any way the owner likes - which is your idea!
I like your idea and the execution of it. Good video too. Thanks
Thanks John - big project for me and at least some kind of success.
Ho WOW, I'm a fan of the Rugger No1, I had 2( I'm not a gun maniac or collector) I still own the No1 international in 30-06 and love that rifle! But that one you designed is something of beauty!! I never seen something that beautiful!! That would be my dream rifle in what I think is the best round, 30-06 of course! What an amazing feat to design and get something like that actually built, I'm so impress. I know this video is 2 years old but I'm super happy I found it! If you here of anyone currently making a double falling block I would be really interested in knowing. Again, what a fantastic looking rifle!
Thank you David! Here is a link to Bailey Bradshaw www.bradshawgunandrifle.com/rising-block-single-shot.html
Bailey can build one - I have not examined one but his work is first class. Glad you are on the channel. All the best.
I like your double, much more then the one in 9.3-74, was just curious how much it cost to build that one. I have entertained ideas of building things many times, but don't have the money to. I am glad you were able to, it is very impressive.
Beautifully done. That's it.
That Hagn action is gorgeous.
Truly amazing Ian.
What good fortune for me! I stumbled across your channel looking at Ruger #1 videos as I am determined to make one my next firearm purchase and then saw the title of this video and immediately hit play, 16 minutes of time well spent in my opinion.
Simply put.....wow. Both those rifles are stunning, but particularly the second one. A falling block double, what a fantastic idea. I have dreamt of owning a break action classic double rifle, but I may now have a new dream!! Good for you to follow through on a project like this, easy for me to say because it wasn't my money spent, but it appears to be well worth it, I consider rifles like these to be functional art. If I win a lottery I'm asking you to commission serial #2 in 375 H&H or 450-400 NE.
Hi Jesse - such fine words and I'd build #2 in a heartbeat; but as it is, not enough demand or awareness to tool up for a production run. Maybe one day... : ) It is all good.
A beautiful rifle and if I ever win the lottery I'll put in an order
Absolutely stunning! Martin Hagn does incredible work. Personally, I would have gone with a more DG-appropriate cartridge, maybe a .348 or .405 Win or something. But this is something to be very proud of.
I agree - I got carried away buy the A Square. 404 would have been ideal or even .375 H&H.
I can see the appeal in taking on a project like this. Where I live there are no regulations on black powder firearms and the building of them so I am mid build on my second bp firearm, which is going to be a percussion cap double rifle. So far it is coming along well and I must say, I believe having something you had a part in creating will always trump something the was just purchased off the rack at a shop.
Hi Jonathon - fantastic project you have going. Wish I had time - I'd love build a BP rifle. Maybe one day. Any way, I admire your spirit and dedication. Sports and beer is a lot easier; but we all know what that accomplishes. The very best to you.
USOG When you are young and broke sometimes teaching yourself how to make the things that you desire is the best way to obtain them, but nothing wrong with buying these pieces either, if only I could swing the money for them, I would aswell.
Btw nice that you interact with your viewers, too many UA-cam’s forget to make that connection with the audience.
a side-sliding block could be designed (I think some were) along something similar to this, and allow for O/U (which I prefer more than SxS). That Austrian SxS is a beauty though, and I think that double rifle you had made is an improvement!
With CNC being as affordable as it is, you could possibly still get it in production, you would just have to get together with other small-scale gun designers/makers and offer a handful of atypical designs at somewhat reasonable prices (For my Muzzle Loading guns I make, I have 3 finish levels: field, mid, and best; they're all good, functional guns, but the higher levels of finish have more to do with making the gun prettier and some extra fitting time, the field grade is just a plain-jane gun that functions decently). You'll never make and sell the volume Remington or Winchester do, but then again, people that want these sort of arms know that these type of guns cost more, so it works out ok in the end (just have to keep your costs down as best you can). You realistically could get your field grade models out there for about the same price ($750-800 for a single, about $1200 for a double) as the big companies' mid-range model bolt-guns (and have the same level of finish and function). You'll never compete with the budget guns ($200), but then again, you're not trying to. MFG license (for modern guns) isn't too expensive, and the Fed excise tax is only 11% on rifles and shotguns, 10% on pistols.
On the topic of your clever ideas, have you had any response on your .300blk M1 Carbine idea yet?
Hi and yes - it was pointed out to me that the Mini 14 is apparently offered in .300 - I'll have to get one - not quite the same as the M1 Carbine but close.
Hmm, I suppose it doesn't take long before upscaling the M1 Carbine's action gets you a Mini-14. Perhaps it's possible a craftsman can make a wooden stock for the Mini 14 that resembles a M1 Carbine stock?
Beautiful piece !
Look up the Stradivari rifle... bullpup falling block made in Italy- wood stock and quite good looking.
A double Stradivari would be fantastic.
That's amazing. Thank you!
Wow is all i can say , you did a knockout task of building a double falling block rifle .. I really like that , looks very well designed with sleek lines, very well done .. Yes you should market that double rifle ... I'm a Ruger #1 person and have been for years and love it ..One of my brothers owns 2 of the Ruger #1 rifles also ... I did own the Browning single shot falling block and like you showed.. i do like the exposed hammer but anyway my Browning which was plagued with problems from the start , firing pin bushing, to broken trigger mech . then one scope ring screw broke ( metric screws and threads , gunsmith said he could drill out all of the remaining holes and retap them ) during hunting season so that was it for the China made Browning ..I can't count how many times i had the rifle to a gunsmith .. never owned a rifle like that in my life ..
Thanks Norman - took a lot to organize and complete but at last it all cam together. So much to it - hard to believe. I think of Browning and the other really great gun designers and am in awe of their dedication, inspiration and brilliance.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have followed many firearm designers throughout my lifetime.
Great inventors with a dream some made it come true for centuries in Europe and still do.. I think you did fantastic, how many folks could do that? Not many.
Oh just noticed that you posted this today! Happens to be my Daughter's Birthday. A good omen :-)
Happy Brithday little one!
that is a serious caliber and the kick seems reasonable lovely piece your are to be congratulations
Thanks Tim!
Amazing and beautiful rifles. Wow
Congratulations on a beautiful piece!
Beautiful workmanship...
Thanks Roger.
Browning had a rifle bbl. set as an accessory
Have you seen Bailey Bradshaw's falling block double?
omg im speechless....you sir are doing life right! i doubt a finer gun exists on planet earth!
Mike what do you think of the CVA scout 444 marlin rifle they are priced at about 650$ Canadian?
Damn that double of yours is so beautiful, the Hagns! I wonder of one could be commercially made the way the Rugger #1 is done do drop the cost down!! I would buy one for sure if it was in the $2000 range and in a northern canadian caliber, maybe like 35 Wheelen .....
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Hi David - I looked at a lot of different ways. Maybe when I have more time I'll have a special edition of them made - maybe a hundred or something.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Make that special edition in a universally useful chambering, perhaps 7x57, give us about 5 years lead time, and maybe I can save enough nickels! Its be a dream come true!
I woukd buy it in an instant would it be available or on order.....I find the entire concept appealing whereby the workmanship appears very nice....
Thank you Jens - I wish there were more people like you. I put so much into that design. Oh well...the effort was its own reward. : )
Beautiful firearm, Thanks for sharing it.
These are beautifully engineered I have one in 220 swift
I’d pick that as my one rifle. I’d pick 22 hornet left, 243 right. That be slick
Since you helped or designed it. Is a vertical milling machine, and heat treat oven enough for a guy to build it in his garage? If so what fixtures would one need. Rotary table, ect? Understanding one would use gunsmith to fit the barrel, not having enough money to buy a lathe
Hi Mike - A milling machine and files should do the trick. Parts can be hand made but a lot of work. With the drawings one could edm cut intricate parts or have them made. Same goes for heat treating - easier to send out; or go for color case hardening. Springs are easier to order. Still - everything can be done if you have one to work off of and one to build...as you likely know. Cheers.
Grand work, congratulations. Thank you.
Thanks Ray!
fantastic videos, i m learning a lot , with respect Vladimir
I'm so glad Vladimir!
I’d love to have one! I think there’d be a market with PHs in Africa and with hunters going to Africa.
That’s a awesome rifle it’s beautiful that’s cooler than any AK it’s a good looking rifle you did a great job I don’t know a lot about these falling block rifles but I can say it’s better looking than the first one you showed yours looks sleek and we’re as the other looked awkward as a previous comment you should be very proud of such a accomplishment
Thanks Jeff - one has to try : )
Another fascinating, informative video about unusual guns.
Thanks Kenneth!
Nice piece of work.
That is really a nice rifle. It would be nice if you could produce them. I would like one in 9.3 x 74R or .375 mag. Also thanks for passing on the info on not setting the rifle down on the cheek piece. I didn’t know that but I will remember and do that from now on. Great channel. Thanks.
Thank you Daq - I'll keep approaching manufacturers - thanks for the support.
I missed out on the Ruger #1 in .303 British but one of your rifles (if I ever won the lottery) in .303 Brit would literally be the perfect hunting rifle for the way I love to hunt!!
Hello TWP - As my Cree friend likes to say "There is bounty in everything and waiting for you." I'm sure you'll find a way to buy a .303 #1 and you know, any cal. in that rifle is fine.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns oh I know the #1 is awesome in any cartridge, Im just very partial to it. I just harvested a fall black bear that came in at just under 400lbs gross with a .303 Brit that Ive owned for almost 30 years. I own newer but that old girl has not ever let me down and is my go to for almost anything.