I have two characters. main is at 3650cp, alt at 3100. Ive spent 100usd to get the celebration pack(6k lucent) because i want to support the game. Ive made about 10k lucent on my main and 8k on my alt. I made A LOT of mistakes gearing up and learning the game. Cant believe im gon say this - but this game is doing math right! You can save thousands sometimes upwards of 50% of the total cost to upgrade your gear if you do your research and crunch some numbers. Yes it is really basic math, but fun!
For reference I'm 100% free to play. 3000 combat power mainly all purple with traits. Made 20k lucent with alt chapter selling all the blues he has. Hes only 2100 for dungeon farming. This game is very much free to play
U got more lucky than i did i only made around 10k so far, but still ye its f2p unless you want to be on the top ofc then u gotta pay for the normal ppl.
@@emeukal7683yeah that’s the main factor that makes it hard to believe for some people, a lot of luck goes into the drops. you still have to keep up with it all farming wise, but 2 people farming the same thing for 10hrs will have very different profits at the end on this game .
He farmed 50k lucent(including 100 euro bundle) from the first day he started to play from early access(1st october). So about three weeks. There are people that farmed more than this but you don`t see it cause they uppgrade their gear.
Thanks for the video! I was upgrading my gear but wasn't sure how or if I was doing it right, thankfully your video clear up most of my questions for this weird traits system, please keep doing videos you are literally the best content creator of this game for me
my best tipp is. Make a second character only for Koop Dungeon and selling all gear to the AH plus when you have time you can try to make gear complete sellable with this 20% chance of sucessfull gear craft. You have no risk to spend materials for crafting and you dont need much time to do that.
I'm also completly f2p with 3400 combat power right now, i was completly clueless and made alot of mistakes in the first week, but with some guides it was easy to upgrade my gear. i wasnt lucky with a world boss drop or something like that, just playing the game with dungeons and contracts, having and alt character for some items to sell and now i am nearly maxed out with bis traits
37k lucent. If you keep in mind that he already had purples and if i compare his gear with my gear, he proly played as much as i did...which is a lot cause im on vacation atm. Id say you could proly get all that gear with knowledge in 2 weeks and then another 50k lucent to get that gear score and your already way above what you need for all PvE content. I casually hit 2.6 yesterday and can 1combo level 50 OpenWorld mobs as a tank, i can pack clear level 50 dungeons already and can take whipe mechs without dying. I don't feel any urge to get more Gear Score and will just keep goin casually like i did all the time. But in short, if i compare T+L with LA its a lot less P2W tbh. Well im not talking about PvP...there is no such thing as no P2W advantage in PvP in almost all other games these days. Back in my days with no P2W elements they started using aimbots, glitches and other "features" to have an advantage, company's couldn't keep up with preventing and patching the ways of the "cheaters" Nowadays they just earn money with it.
Bro your build has been awesome. I have acquired all items except shadow harvester pants. Its been so much fun in Large/small pvp. Everyone was doubting the 1000+ hit in my guild when i told them what i was doing. Ty for the info.You are the man. I'm slaying on Karnix server thanks to you dude!
it's better to go lvl 7 and 30% on gear u want to transfer and then upgrade it imo. Its cheaper with growthstone wise if im not wrong. Great video, encouraging ppl to not quit cuz they think they cant make lucent in game. Keep it up
@@FRESHY_GG but i heard items are more expensive on US servers! Do you know if we can transfer a character which is in an european server into an US server ?
great video! question...why do you go ranged/magic evasion instead of melee? are you just accepting that if melee gets in range you're okay dying? also what do you do if you have fully traited melee evasion and want to change to ranged? if you trait convert does it go back to a lvl 1 trait?
U cant build for all 3, u will always get fked by one class, and melee classes can be outranged so theres a way of dealing with it better than ranged onew
Little helpful tip if you level your purple item upto level 7 30% you can add a full level 9 rare item to make your epic item level 9 without spending alot more growth stones to upgrade your epic from level 6-9 with purple growth stones.
Good vid, I got a question: you started with 4m solant and ended with 6m after all transfers and traits, did you make this all in one go or made it as you were able to get all pieces? or can you explain the process of coming up with solant money and avoid being broke? thanks in advance.
The build looks solid, but I’m curios of the toublek bow over karnix, and 2 your stat points are not where they should be imo, you need at least the 50 strength for 100 heavy attack chance.
No..pay to win feels like "you work all day to make money and then you use that money to keep you on the same level as the person who games all day". Oh wait...maybe you're right.
My friend, I need your advice. I got the universal ring as a weekly reward and at the moment it is very expensive in the game. It works for my final game but I am full blue Straits. Do you recommend I keep it for my build or sell it and equip myself in full purple? 200 hours of f2p have finally been compensated!
without any previous knowledge about this game i did half of that, got 3150 item power now i don't feel like spending any more lucent will get me noticable power, that's the point where i'll wait for prices to go down
Also. Were you out of purple item growthstones? Normally i would think it is much cheaper to manually level the purple gear the first 5+ levels and then tranfer the blue into it? Or did you find another wsy to level purple from 6 to 9? Gz with the Lucent, I guess the whsles were very happy to Purchase all you sold🎉
blessing pouches give contracts two of them if you get lucky thats like 10 per day with contracts giving them as well as the merchant 1 per day (also 15 from ornate coins)
I’m at 2450 gear score as F2P and I on,y get a few hours a night to play after work. I’m a Bow/Wand healer and I heal all content and do fine in PvP if I don’t screw myself so you absolutely can play this with no swiping.
Hi you replaced movement speed on boots with Magic Endurance and on some things Mana Regen with Magic Endurance in build. Is it worth following this and redoing t4 traits with the changed ones in build?
@@smai2831 u dont have to, i noticed that mana regen traits dont really fix mana problems and we will have to wait for t2 gear to fix mana problems. With magic endurance u can reach 1000 which is really good for pvp, but if u are mainly pve player u can stay with mana regen traits as magic endurance wont have any benefit to ur char in pve
I dotn understand, bottom right corner says calculated total 9.000 Lucent. The numbers on the screen (last 100 items sold) do not seem to add up to 9k so... where do the other 41k come from?
Out of his most recent 100 items he made 9k. AH dropped off now but since we were all EA gamers things were selling for insane amounts of luncent for example people were buying dungeon drops and jewlrey lithos for like 10k lucent…
@@Keyshawn13 Bro didnt read what i said. I said it seems like the numbers for that 100 solds didnt add up to the total on the bottom meaning the total would extend the 100 recent sells.
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Many say he is p2w, but i made 1k without knowing wtf I'm doing, all i know is that on my server, selling gear is better than traits. However, that 20% tax hurts😢
1 k is nothing, he only earned 9 k himself. 6 k he got from the $100 pack. Even assuming he had an alt, highly doubt he made the 30 k on them alone. He payed hundreds of dollars. Most of the big money starts have passed. Now you just have to get lucky or spend all day sniping the market.
@thesoul777 i made more than 80k my frind as a full f2p , the only thing i bought was the game for early Access. Let me tell you a thing , the first few days the dungeon lithographs were selling for like 5k+ . Also it doesn't show all your transactions as time passes by so that 9k of his is probably recent.
@@thesoul777if you watch the video that’s 9k from just this week. The auction house only shows the last 100 items sold. The items from last week and week before won’t show because he’s sold more than 100. This is proven when he scrolls down and his last item sold is from Monday the 14th. He’s been playing since the game came out and there’s videos of him saving his lucent. He had the knowledge of what was best to sell early. Why hate and cope?
Did u know AH only shows last 100 items sold? How do i show the whole list. My last item is literally 14th oct, u rly think i didnt sell anything for 3 weeks, stop being dumb pls
Damn, you spammed all that cheap crap all the way to the top. That's impressive! I don't even bother with anything less that 80 lucent when it comes to sales.
I think you proved the opposite man ... I am doing the same thing. I wanted to see if I don't spend anything how far I can get. I have to say, you farmed or got lucky way more than I did, but you might be 1 week ahead of me, since I started on normal free to play servers and I am 2900 gear score and 350 hours in. I finally decided that I enjoy playing it and I should support them and I bought a pack of 50 euro and spend them on cosmetics so that they don't influence my gearing lucent. Overall I have to say I made about between 12000 to 15000 lucent and spent it all on gear. I don't see it as pay to win, I see it as grind to gear normal progression with the opportunity of the whales to get ahead of you day 1 (that makes it pay to win 100% for them). But if you enjoy grinding and gearing slower, as a game progression, you can literally not spend 1 dime. 1 caviat here, this method do not applies if you want to do Arena or small scale pvp, because if you don't have all gear needed in the first week, you will get blasted by the whales that they do and arena is the only way they can show it off, but everything else including large scale PVP is viable without pay to win.
Okay pls Help: I currently playing greatsword and dagger. I have blue dagger on lvl 9 and full traits. Anr the magna gs at lvl 7 and 2 traits at 40. Now i want to switch to bow and stuff. I already got the toublek stuff and tomorrow i can craft the toublek bow. How can i do this with my weapons or what should i do now
I am p2w, I admit it, but i have 2 friends who are sitting on 3.3k+, that are 100% f2p(I know this because they are poor as hell =/), with pc running at 50-60 fps on arena and 20fps on mass pvp. One of them is 2k+ rating on arena! So if you can nolife the game, create alts to get lucent as well, yeah, you can beat ppl as a f2p
Yes, being able to buy gear to increase your power in game using a currency that can be purchased with real money IS the textbook definition of pay-to-win. A game can be BOTH free-to-play and pay-to-win. One does not negate the other. It’s great that you accumulated so much grinding as F2P. That does not negate the fact that the game is also very much P2W
Everyone understands the terminology people who played the game don't really care because as of present day is irrelevant. BiS necklace to buy and fully trait out on my server is over 1k cash all for a minor power boost in the grand scheme of things. I farmed the necklace and can fully trait it out in less time compared to the hours my job pays me to buy and upgrade the darn thing. It's closer to pay to lose financially than to win in the game. End of the day the guy that drops 5 figures to min max still gets destroyed in pvp. No one would know he's a swiper.
There isn't anything in the game that can only be acquired with real money, so it's not pay-to-win. Stop with this nonsense. At least you can say is pay to progress but it's not worth it IMO
@@FicsyCy As I'd like to agree with your statement however, Paying to win only means that if you spend money you get a competitive advantage in some form. And in this game, yes, you CAN speed up and access early content that others might not be able to by putting money into it. (Like making a guild that gets all pvp stuff cause you're fighting people at 1.6k on day 1 while you have 2-3k already). That's textbook definition of having an advantage even if with time things get even.
Yea yea, that's true, it's a pick your poison rule, u can pay to progress max it out, but u have a poison which means there's a character or players with different build that u can't win..
Im confusing when im transfer my purple chest to another purple chest the game wont allow me to do it. It is full traits unlike when you transfer your kanix bow to another bow. It that the reason why?
we need the same item with whatever trait we want on it, to unluck a new trait on a weapon but however , after to upgrade that trait , we can use any extract with the same trait? does not matter if it is purple or blue? Thank you.
It is better for damage and higher base range so if you have a support bow with you with Karnix then you get the % buff since its party wide so it is overall better
Kernix is better dmg according to all top charts when both are compared (PvP as well) toublex better range. Overall dmg kernix is better. I have both maxed tried for myself to compare with charts from other top players using both.
I see all of this possible without spending, just having clue about the game since the start. Ome thing tho, how on earth u having 665 trait conversion stones?? oO
One of the worst sales systems among the most diverse MMO games that have ever existed. To be considered bad, it still has to improve a lot. #wakeupdeadman
50k is possible. i have made near 25k but i have checked too late how i can make money. so i loose 4-5 days. and in the first days you can made the most money.
Sadly I'm on a bunk server it's impossible to find ppl to run anything with matchmaking never works lfg in chat don't work ima have to pay to win my gear or pray for server mergers or the ability to transfer from na east to na west were all my friends are i came in late only have 60 hours in its my first mmorpg ive got alot to learn sucks my friends can't help me out rip me
haha Great video, sadly this one literally helped me take a decision that I was struggling taking, which is quiting the game before I get deeper into it. I'm not mad at you or anything its actually very good and informative. Its just that by principal I don't spend in any P2W game, the only games I accept to pay for are games that sells boxes or sub based games cause you pay for what you get and your progress will only be impacted by how much time you put in and sadly that's not the case for P2W games. Been playing since the start of launch servers and only managed to get to 2.5k GS and obviously since I don't know all the tricks to upgrade gear etc, and the game doesn't teach you those tricks, I just transfered all my untraited blue to purple to boost my GS and now to trait those purple pieces will cost me waaaaaaaay more than what you showcased on the video and that depends obviously on my luck if I manage to get anything good to sell cause as I said I'm not paying a single peny in the game. So its gonna be more of a struggle than a good time and its better to call it here :D
@@FRESHY_GG yes but there’s nothing that says that in the game, cause the second you reach 50 you start getting purples and I bet anyone who wasn’t watching guides on YT did the same as me, that’s fine it was a fun two weeks of messing around
@@rashash9954I got to level 50 in 3 days, maybe about 15-20 hours of playtime, definitely not being efficient. You could just chill, enjoy the game, create a new character, and test new weapons with the knowledge you now have. The game isn't going anywhere. If you find it fun, you could just chill and set goals and enjoy yourself. But I understand how it might feel like you wasted so much time and respect your decision nonetheless.
@@avocado-pj8mw The thing is, its not even my fault. Games should teach players about their systems and their depth, you can't expect 100% of the player base to be living on UA-cam watching guides to not fall into those traps especially that those mistakes costs you a lot more on T&L than mmos such as wow, ffxiv, gw2 etc especially as a F2P player
GJ hoarding 50k lucent and u gonna be way more geared gearing now when prices have already dropped but damn u mustve been weak this past month.. wouldnt it be worth to just spend it early and be a god this 1st month ?
I love the game but this system sucks hard... takes out the joy when you drop a nice purple from a boss, and it has poor trait.... then you need at least 3 more of the same item... so not fun
I got the build from our servers best Bow/Staff DPS (Secret dungeons hes always 15-20 sec faster as the 2nd guy and top 6 Rank in PVP) He plays Karnix over Toublex
@@FRESHY_GG but not much. 10k lucent is not enough. You need like 50k for your whole purples with traits, maybe a little more. As i said i dropped 3 world boss items (morokai gs, excev9 wand and cherno gs) and only made around 10k lucent with selling those. People in EA sold 1 drop for like 15k lucent.
@@FRESHY_GGmaybe not be such a jersey, you ate showing people you farmed 50k but staying a 100 dollar outfit saying you farmed 50k when you bought 6k is misleading so he probably assumed you were f2p
@@FRESHY_GG hey you can't fix dumb but doesn't mean you have to point it out. There could've been a nicer way of saying it is all I'm saying man or don't even say it at all just let him wonder xD
perfect vid. i was confused on transferring a max purple with traits into another and u just cleared the doubt i had of my blessings transferring.
I have two characters. main is at 3650cp, alt at 3100. Ive spent 100usd to get the celebration pack(6k lucent) because i want to support the game. Ive made about 10k lucent on my main and 8k on my alt. I made A LOT of mistakes gearing up and learning the game. Cant believe im gon say this - but this game is doing math right! You can save thousands sometimes upwards of 50% of the total cost to upgrade your gear if you do your research and crunch some numbers. Yes it is really basic math, but fun!
For reference I'm 100% free to play. 3000 combat power mainly all purple with traits. Made 20k lucent with alt chapter selling all the blues he has. Hes only 2100 for dungeon farming. This game is very much free to play
U got more lucky than i did i only made around 10k so far, but still ye its f2p unless you want to be on the top ofc then u gotta pay for the normal ppl.
Yeah you can farm your lucent and with a bit of rng you might get lucky expensive traits. Salty people in the comments want it easy
@@emeukal7683yeah that’s the main factor that makes it hard to believe for some people, a lot of luck goes into the drops. you still have to keep up with it all farming wise, but 2 people farming the same thing for 10hrs will have very different profits at the end on this game .
It's f2p as much as you put the work in , average guy will never compete with a whale but it is what it is I'm fully addicted
I need to make an alt!
He farmed 50k lucent(including 100 euro bundle) from the first day he started to play from early access(1st october). So about three weeks. There are people that farmed more than this but you don`t see it cause they uppgrade their gear.
26th sept* i started making lucent in EA
@@FRESHY_GG Please tell me if I use Longbow of the world Tree to transfer the trait to Karnix will I get the same amount of blessing or less?
@@alexmagelan9567 yes
Thanks for the video! I was upgrading my gear but wasn't sure how or if I was doing it right, thankfully your video clear up most of my questions for this weird traits system, please keep doing videos you are literally the best content creator of this game for me
my best tipp is. Make a second character only for Koop Dungeon and selling all gear to the AH plus when you have time you can try to make gear complete sellable with this 20% chance of sucessfull gear craft. You have no risk to spend materials for crafting and you dont need much time to do that.
You are fortunate to have started early, every day that passes become harder to make lucent and prices and demand is falling
I'm also completly f2p with 3400 combat power right now, i was completly clueless and made alot of mistakes in the first week, but with some guides it was easy to upgrade my gear. i wasnt lucky with a world boss drop or something like that, just playing the game with dungeons and contracts, having and alt character for some items to sell and now i am nearly maxed out with bis traits
Watch when the real gear drops and your ass can't keep up. 3.4k is baby food and you still might be lying
F2P here also with 280 hours and 25-30k lucent earned on my main, and 3k earned on my alt. As a result…
3.5GS Bow/Staff
2.6GS Bow/Wand
Bro you are the best everything is perfectly explained thank you so much
37k lucent. If you keep in mind that he already had purples and if i compare his gear with my gear, he proly played as much as i did...which is a lot cause im on vacation atm.
Id say you could proly get all that gear with knowledge in 2 weeks and then another 50k lucent to get that gear score and your already way above what you need for all PvE content.
I casually hit 2.6 yesterday and can 1combo level 50 OpenWorld mobs as a tank, i can pack clear level 50 dungeons already and can take whipe mechs without dying. I don't feel any urge to get more Gear Score and will just keep goin casually like i did all the time.
But in short, if i compare T+L with LA its a lot less P2W tbh.
Well im not talking about PvP...there is no such thing as no P2W advantage in PvP in almost all other games these days. Back in my days with no P2W elements they started using aimbots, glitches and other "features" to have an advantage, company's couldn't keep up with preventing and patching the ways of the "cheaters"
Nowadays they just earn money with it.
Bro your build has been awesome. I have acquired all items except shadow harvester pants. Its been so much fun in Large/small pvp. Everyone was doubting the 1000+ hit in my guild when i told them what i was doing. Ty for the info.You are the man. I'm slaying on Karnix server thanks to you dude!
Yea i tested it in pvp and range is insane, ive been not missing as much anymore
it's better to go lvl 7 and 30% on gear u want to transfer and then upgrade it imo. Its cheaper with growthstone wise if im not wrong.
Great video, encouraging ppl to not quit cuz they think they cant make lucent in game. Keep it up
ur best bet would be trying to find builds and guides on questlog. most creators keep it there, maxroll is also good place for guides
Hi good job for all man, that’s a lot of work. Which server do you recommend to farm lucent with an alt ?
@@Adam-yf5fs where ur main is, use that server
@@FRESHY_GG but i heard items are more expensive on US servers! Do you know if we can transfer a character which is in an european server into an US server ?
@@Adam-yf5fs no ,but u can create 2 alts on NA region and that lucent can be used on your EU chars
@@FRESHY_GG perfect man, Thanks a lot for your time 💪🏽
Great educational video! Thank you.
great video! question...why do you go ranged/magic evasion instead of melee? are you just accepting that if melee gets in range you're okay dying? also what do you do if you have fully traited melee evasion and want to change to ranged? if you trait convert does it go back to a lvl 1 trait?
U cant build for all 3, u will always get fked by one class, and melee classes can be outranged so theres a way of dealing with it better than ranged onew
Little helpful tip if you level your purple item upto level 7 30% you can add a full level 9 rare item to make your epic item level 9 without spending alot more growth stones to upgrade your epic from level 6-9 with purple growth stones.
Good vid, I got a question: you started with 4m solant and ended with 6m after all transfers and traits, did you make this all in one go or made it as you were able to get all pieces? or can you explain the process of coming up with solant money and avoid being broke? thanks in advance.
Buy the epic blue marind ore at auction and sell it to any merchant for 432k sollant each
The build looks solid, but I’m curios of the toublek bow over karnix, and 2 your stat points are not where they should be imo, you need at least the 50 strength for 100 heavy attack chance.
Cant have 50 str with toublek, and im missing 2 important gear items for perfect stat distribution
Yes i spent it then bought marinds to sell for sollant
whats the accepted ratio of trait extraction stones too lucent? 1:10? 50 lucent min for a blue trait seems so steep to make lucent
20-30 for blue is fine
No..pay to win feels like "you work all day to make money and then you use that money to keep you on the same level as the person who games all day". Oh wait...maybe you're right.
My friend, I need your advice. I got the universal ring as a weekly reward and at the moment it is very expensive in the game. It works for my final game but I am full blue Straits. Do you recommend I keep it for my build or sell it and equip myself in full purple? 200 hours of f2p have finally been compensated!
@@yinzo_ag sell it. U will have other oportunities to get it cheaper later
@@yinzo_ag sell it. U will have other oportunities to get it cheaper later
well done man ❤ keep it up!!!
without any previous knowledge about this game i did half of that, got 3150 item power
now i don't feel like spending any more lucent will get me noticable power, that's the point where i'll wait for prices to go down
Also. Were you out of purple item growthstones? Normally i would think it is much cheaper to manually level the purple gear the first 5+ levels and then tranfer the blue into it? Or did you find another wsy to level purple from 6 to 9?
Gz with the Lucent, I guess the whsles were very happy to Purchase all you sold🎉
@@123cxzaqwe i had a lot of blue stones that i crafted up to purple
U just worked hard for this nice one when is the next livestream
Soon
How did you get 230 Abyss Currency? i did not have so much scrolls.
blessing pouches give contracts two of them if you get lucky thats like 10 per day with contracts giving them as well as the merchant 1 per day (also 15 from ornate coins)
Just rng with blessing pouches
I’m at 2450 gear score as F2P and I on,y get a few hours a night to play after work. I’m a Bow/Wand healer and I heal all content and do fine in PvP if I don’t screw myself so you absolutely can play this with no swiping.
I’m in the same boat. Got to 3,2k combat power with an average of 4 hours a day since release, I only bought the battle pass.
Hi! Question, how do you transfer lucent/sollant between alt characters? And can we do that for items as well?
U cant transfer sollant, but lucent stays on your account and is shared between chars
Hi
you replaced movement speed on boots with Magic Endurance and on some things Mana Regen with Magic Endurance in build. Is it worth following this and redoing t4 traits with the changed ones in build?
@@smai2831 u dont have to, i noticed that mana regen traits dont really fix mana problems and we will have to wait for t2 gear to fix mana problems. With magic endurance u can reach 1000 which is really good for pvp, but if u are mainly pve player u can stay with mana regen traits as magic endurance wont have any benefit to ur char in pve
nice info about how TnL is P2W dependant. I'm not calling it bad, just as it is, useful for those who still wondering about it
truth but you must also tell the people that as a f2p its just as possible to reach the level that p2w players reach too.👌
@@nicoopiee P2W players work 8 hours a day so they can swipe. F2P players play 8 hours to catch up with the whales 😂 same goal, different approach.
As long as they keep the balance between PVE and PVP (not forcing progression through PVP), I truly don't care about the P2W element.
thank u bro i rly learned a lot from this video
I dotn understand, bottom right corner says calculated total 9.000 Lucent. The numbers on the screen (last 100 items sold) do not seem to add up to 9k so... where do the other 41k come from?
Out of his most recent 100 items he made 9k. AH dropped off now but since we were all EA gamers things were selling for insane amounts of luncent for example people were buying dungeon drops and jewlrey lithos for like 10k lucent…
Also, if you have an alt, Lucent is shared by both characters. He may have sold his blues on his alt, but that's just my opinion..
AH shows only 100 last items sold. I live stream and i show my history on alt all the time
Bro didn't listen to the beginning of the video
@@Keyshawn13 Bro didnt read what i said. I said it seems like the numbers for that 100 solds didnt add up to the total on the bottom meaning the total would extend the 100 recent sells.
thank you for the Video
Is this the best in slot for pvp or u just avoid wolf head/chest set ant harvester trousers cause of the price ?
@@mattiafrancati8992 i avoid cause of the stats
@FRESHY_GG Please tell me if I use Longbow of the world Tree to transfer the trait to Karnix will I get the same amount of blessing or less?
If ur transfering the whole weapon +9 fully traits u will get 1500 blessing. It depends how many traits u have on tree longbow
*PAY-TO-WIN = ANY kind of Advantage by using Creditcard.*
*Allowing that person an Advantage in Time, Progression or Power.*
*Throne and Liberty is Objectively a Pay-to-Win Game.* 😎
true
Many say he is p2w, but i made 1k without knowing wtf I'm doing, all i know is that on my server, selling gear is better than traits. However, that 20% tax hurts😢
1 k is nothing, he only earned 9 k himself. 6 k he got from the $100 pack. Even assuming he had an alt, highly doubt he made the 30 k on them alone. He payed hundreds of dollars. Most of the big money starts have passed. Now you just have to get lucky or spend all day sniping the market.
@thesoul777 i made more than 80k my frind as a full f2p , the only thing i bought was the game for early Access. Let me tell you a thing , the first few days the dungeon lithographs were selling for like 5k+ . Also it doesn't show all your transactions as time passes by so that 9k of his is probably recent.
@@thesoul777if you watch the video that’s 9k from just this week. The auction house only shows the last 100 items sold. The items from last week and week before won’t show because he’s sold more than 100. This is proven when he scrolls down and his last item sold is from Monday the 14th. He’s been playing since the game came out and there’s videos of him saving his lucent. He had the knowledge of what was best to sell early. Why hate and cope?
Did u know AH only shows last 100 items sold? How do i show the whole list. My last item is literally 14th oct, u rly think i didnt sell anything for 3 weeks, stop being dumb pls
Dont bother explaining it to these bozos, they dont even know how AH works
Hi i have a question, what bow use for pvp karnix or toublek ?
@@MarkSaberon-s2q toublek
@@FRESHY_GG thankyou sir
Damn, you spammed all that cheap crap all the way to the top. That's impressive! I don't even bother with anything less that 80 lucent when it comes to sales.
Anything that sell for more than 10 lucent gets sold
I think you proved the opposite man ... I am doing the same thing. I wanted to see if I don't spend anything how far I can get. I have to say, you farmed or got lucky way more than I did, but you might be 1 week ahead of me, since I started on normal free to play servers and I am 2900 gear score and 350 hours in. I finally decided that I enjoy playing it and I should support them and I bought a pack of 50 euro and spend them on cosmetics so that they don't influence my gearing lucent. Overall I have to say I made about between 12000 to 15000 lucent and spent it all on gear. I don't see it as pay to win, I see it as grind to gear normal progression with the opportunity of the whales to get ahead of you day 1 (that makes it pay to win 100% for them). But if you enjoy grinding and gearing slower, as a game progression, you can literally not spend 1 dime. 1 caviat here, this method do not applies if you want to do Arena or small scale pvp, because if you don't have all gear needed in the first week, you will get blasted by the whales that they do and arena is the only way they can show it off, but everything else including large scale PVP is viable without pay to win.
Okay pls Help:
I currently playing greatsword and dagger. I have blue dagger on lvl 9 and full traits. Anr the magna gs at lvl 7 and 2 traits at 40.
Now i want to switch to bow and stuff. I already got the toublek stuff and tomorrow i can craft the toublek bow. How can i do this with my weapons or what should i do now
check my previous video i explain how to swap to other weapons
@@FRESHY_GG thank u man. Love ur videos
Why change karnix to toublek? Which build are you going for?
pvp oriented build with toublek for range
I am p2w, I admit it, but i have 2 friends who are sitting on 3.3k+, that are 100% f2p(I know this because they are poor as hell =/), with pc running at 50-60 fps on arena and 20fps on mass pvp. One of them is 2k+ rating on arena!
So if you can nolife the game, create alts to get lucent as well, yeah, you can beat ppl as a f2p
That 3.3k you talking about is most likely a fake power. With a bunch of mana regen, hp regens, max mana on their traits 😂
Which server do you recommend to farm many lucent with an alt ?
bro hits us with ambiant elevator theme music
Very chill piano music
i farmed 50k lucent with the power of my debit card! Kappa nice vid though
Would be 100k then. 50k farmed 50k paypal, would be even better video.
uhh question, why you never used trait unlock stone? is it randomized also
Waste on t1
It is All about RNG, craft anything and get mana reg :)
by all means spend on blues, I appreciate you buying my traits on the market , that's what they are there for XD
Hell yeah
Hey, is there a good way to get purple gear upgrade stones? Maybe even with lucent?
Farm open world dungs , u will have a lot
Yes, being able to buy gear to increase your power in game using a currency that can be purchased with real money IS the textbook definition of pay-to-win.
A game can be BOTH free-to-play and pay-to-win. One does not negate the other. It’s great that you accumulated so much grinding as F2P. That does not negate the fact that the game is also very much P2W
Everyone understands the terminology people who played the game don't really care because as of present day is irrelevant. BiS necklace to buy and fully trait out on my server is over 1k cash all for a minor power boost in the grand scheme of things. I farmed the necklace and can fully trait it out in less time compared to the hours my job pays me to buy and upgrade the darn thing. It's closer to pay to lose financially than to win in the game. End of the day the guy that drops 5 figures to min max still gets destroyed in pvp. No one would know he's a swiper.
Never said it isnt p2w, its just a f2p players can also p2w at the cost of whales
There isn't anything in the game that can only be acquired with real money, so it's not pay-to-win. Stop with this nonsense. At least you can say is pay to progress but it's not worth it IMO
@@FicsyCy As I'd like to agree with your statement however, Paying to win only means that if you spend money you get a competitive advantage in some form. And in this game, yes, you CAN speed up and access early content that others might not be able to by putting money into it. (Like making a guild that gets all pvp stuff cause you're fighting people at 1.6k on day 1 while you have 2-3k already). That's textbook definition of having an advantage even if with time things get even.
Yea yea, that's true, it's a pick your poison rule, u can pay to progress max it out, but u have a poison which means there's a character or players with different build that u can't win..
how about if you transfer a fully traited BLUE item to a PURPLE one, how much blessing are you getting?
960
Uninstalling as soon as I finish the story :D Hvala na videu.
Why did you choose toublek? Everyone is running Karnix.
@@ssdeaglez range in pvp
Man I’m playing 5hrs a day and I’m making like 300 lucent a day doing coop dungeons and open dungeons 😮💨
Thats good profit
Oof when you realize how much just his rings cost
Yes and neck
wait till you actually wanna go for the BiS ring from Queen Bellandir..
@@YuIivee trait unlock stones
You can also make 2 characters per server region that all share the same lucent
Yes
You look like a jedi from star wars
Well hello there!
He clearly bought 6k lucent outside of that, its all earned. He livestreams
I guess i farmed only 44k lucent, im not hiding i spent 100eur on a pack, and yes i stream and i showed and explained how i made the lucent
@@FRESHY_GG I Farmed 50,000 Lucent Then Spent It All Upgrading Gear, dont lie to us bro, you just spent 37K lucent on this video, not the 50k :(
@@edgarvizcaino992 u got me there.
How you extracted so many traits?
7:04 isnt it better to + the weapon first? For growthstone economic i believe
Yea
Im confusing when im transfer my purple chest to another purple chest the game wont allow me to do it. It is full traits unlike when you transfer your kanix bow to another bow. It that the reason why?
Has to be level 0 and not have previous transfer on it
How do you not run out of trait extract stones when you’re selling things for 10 lucent???
u can buy loads from various sources
Doesn't 4k blessing give anymore when I transfer an item, it shows 1300 blessing for me?
it adds on top of what the item already has. so if u had 2k blessing on it, and u transfer 1300, that item will have 3300 blessing
Should have leveled your gloves first to lvl 7 with 30% first just for optomisation
Forgot
we need the same item with whatever trait we want on it, to unluck a new trait on a weapon but however , after to upgrade that trait , we can use any extract with the same trait? does not matter if it is purple or blue? Thank you.
Yes
Nice now you are done with the game :)
Yup, cu in 2 months for tier 2 gear where ill have to do the same again
Why why toublex over kernix bow?
It is better for damage and higher base range so if you have a support bow with you with Karnix then you get the % buff since its party wide so it is overall better
theyre both bis, just get one, it doesnt matter, what matters is archboss bow which hasnt been unlocked yet
Range
Kernix is better dmg according to all top charts when both are compared (PvP as well) toublex better range. Overall dmg kernix is better. I have both maxed tried for myself to compare with charts from other top players using both.
@@Fhormula but in large scale pvp you want as much range as possible for survival especially in castle siege when you look at videos
Yo m8. Why did you not spent 420 blessings on your Clasp of the Conqueror. That could be a free upgrade for the highest cost trait.🎉
@@123cxzaqwe cuz im blind and i didnt notice it
Can you share your build? Just surprised you go for the death mark bow.
On my channel
This works for boss items like cherno sns too, right?
Should yes
How do you obtain so many armor/weapon growth stones?? That bs takes way to long to get. Someone please explain a good way as a f2p to get that.
@@PSNDarkSouL farm open world dungs
No gameplay test at the end? :(
Different pvp and pve videos incoming
calculated total 9646, it shows past month sales. You prob got some good boss drops on your another acc :D
Not past month, past 100 sales
I see all of this possible without spending, just having clue about the game since the start.
Ome thing tho, how on earth u having 665 trait conversion stones?? oO
Grab 100 every week from guild merchant, buy them in ornate coin shop, buy them in star shop, do mystic portals
Is that 50k including the lucent from the 100$ starter bundle?
Ye i guess only 44k was farmed
Why not melee evasion instead of magic evasion? You'll get fked up by daggers a lot.
but then i get fked up by staff players.
@@FRESHY_GG Yeah but literally %99 of the players use dagger, thought you'd be more worried about them?
@@EthernalOynuyor sns wand and sns gs are bigger problems, cause they are unkillable
@@FRESHY_GG SnS/GS here smiling at you :)
Where did you farm all the blues to sell
@@garettelordi8686 pouches
One of the worst sales systems among the most diverse MMO games that have ever existed. To be considered bad, it still has to improve a lot. #wakeupdeadman
It aint that bad
50k is possible. i have made near 25k but i have checked too late how i can make money. so i loose 4-5 days. and in the first days you can made the most money.
Sadly I'm on a bunk server it's impossible to find ppl to run anything with matchmaking never works lfg in chat don't work ima have to pay to win my gear or pray for server mergers or the ability to transfer from na east to na west were all my friends are i came in late only have 60 hours in its my first mmorpg ive got alot to learn sucks my friends can't help me out rip me
Party board is cross region, use that
I feel like I scammed the game upgrading the umbramancer to full traits with 800 lucent
Its gonna be even cheaper
Another amazing video Freshy, you are the best throne and liberty creator I’ve seen in all my scouring of UA-cam. Thank you
Cant tell if ur being sarcastic or not🤣
gj u swipe a lot
Only 100 eur
3 weeks and all I have made is 2k lucent.
Sell even blue traits
How do you have so many stat points??
From gear
haha Great video, sadly this one literally helped me take a decision that I was struggling taking, which is quiting the game before I get deeper into it.
I'm not mad at you or anything its actually very good and informative. Its just that by principal I don't spend in any P2W game, the only games I accept to pay for are games that sells boxes or sub based games cause you pay for what you get and your progress will only be impacted by how much time you put in and sadly that's not the case for P2W games.
Been playing since the start of launch servers and only managed to get to 2.5k GS and obviously since I don't know all the tricks to upgrade gear etc, and the game doesn't teach you those tricks, I just transfered all my untraited blue to purple to boost my GS and now to trait those purple pieces will cost me waaaaaaaay more than what you showcased on the video and that depends obviously on my luck if I manage to get anything good to sell cause as I said I'm not paying a single peny in the game. So its gonna be more of a struggle than a good time and its better to call it here :D
That is the problem with you. You skipped to fully trait your blues by jumping into purples lol!
You should have traited blue first then transfer
@@FRESHY_GG yes but there’s nothing that says that in the game, cause the second you reach 50 you start getting purples and I bet anyone who wasn’t watching guides on YT did the same as me, that’s fine it was a fun two weeks of messing around
@@rashash9954I got to level 50 in 3 days, maybe about 15-20 hours of playtime, definitely not being efficient. You could just chill, enjoy the game, create a new character, and test new weapons with the knowledge you now have. The game isn't going anywhere. If you find it fun, you could just chill and set goals and enjoy yourself. But I understand how it might feel like you wasted so much time and respect your decision nonetheless.
@@avocado-pj8mw The thing is, its not even my fault. Games should teach players about their systems and their depth, you can't expect 100% of the player base to be living on UA-cam watching guides to not fall into those traps especially that those mistakes costs you a lot more on T&L than mmos such as wow, ffxiv, gw2 etc especially as a F2P player
Can you unlock trait using extracted same item?
Yes
GJ hoarding 50k lucent and u gonna be way more geared gearing now when prices have already dropped but damn u mustve been weak this past month.. wouldnt it be worth to just spend it early and be a god this 1st month ?
Would need 100k lucent to gear everything early, thats why i waited
Why toublek over karnix?
Range
I love the game but this system sucks hard... takes out the joy when you drop a nice purple from a boss, and it has poor trait.... then you need at least 3 more of the same item... so not fun
Eventually u drop something valuable and ur gonna be happy
U meant to say bought lucent :D
No
So even without contracts people farm in dungeons? How are you even able to with all those players? 😂
Find empty spot..there are 4 dungs u can farm
@@FRESHY_GG I'll try it with a friend, cause doing just contract is very limiting.
man, i regret getting karnix bow over toublek, i didnt know i need alot of dex to cast faster and getting 70 dex is only viable if i use doublek
I got the build from our servers best Bow/Staff DPS (Secret dungeons hes always 15-20 sec faster as the 2nd guy and top 6 Rank in PVP) He plays Karnix over Toublex
And u get range
@@Sneygel show me the ways, oh wait im bow dagger not gonna work for me
So you kinda say if you were not EA you are kinda screwed right?
Not rly u can still make lucent
@@FRESHY_GG but not much. 10k lucent is not enough. You need like 50k for your whole purples with traits, maybe a little more.
As i said i dropped 3 world boss items (morokai gs, excev9 wand and cherno gs) and only made around 10k lucent with selling those. People in EA sold 1 drop for like 15k lucent.
@@xdregon25x55 early on ud need 100k lucent to do what i did with 50k. Shit was expensive
@@FRESHY_GG someone bought the adentus sword for 100k lmao
@@xdregon25x55 3 drops from world bosses, you say? nice. I've got over 50 kills and zero to show for it.
why the silver bracelet bro? its so bad
Its not
Lots of jealous idiots here. He even has a video how did he make 20k lucent. Lol
Yea idk what the problem is here. I guess grinding is bad nowadays
News Flash: The next DLC its all worthless. Congrats...you played yourself.
Not really. Gl trying to get into t2 dungs and clearing it sub 3k gs
6 clasps with all bad traits.. bruh.
Crazy huh
How did u get the skin from the $100 lucent pack as f2p? 😆
I never said im f2p, did u even watch the video with audio on?
@@FRESHY_GGmaybe not be such a jersey, you ate showing people you farmed 50k but staying a 100 dollar outfit saying you farmed 50k when you bought 6k is misleading so he probably assumed you were f2p
@@FRESHY_GG not a good way to get subs by answering people like that
@@xGreedzz cause ppl dont even watch first 30 secs where i explained everything
@@FRESHY_GG hey you can't fix dumb but doesn't mean you have to point it out. There could've been a nicer way of saying it is all I'm saying man or don't even say it at all just let him wonder xD