5 of the Most Influential Economists in 5 Minutes

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  • @h0ser
    @h0ser  Рік тому +1826

    Disclaimer: This video is a very simplified version of every economist’s views and ideas. I would recommend reading more about them if you’re interested.
    Also this video should be titled “Five of the most influential WESTERN economists” as it centres around Western thought.

    • @thereita1052
      @thereita1052 Рік тому +25

      Lovely video t'ho yes a bit too compressed. Gotta hit the 10 minute mark to hit the monetization sweet spot.

    • @JimAllen-Persona
      @JimAllen-Persona Рік тому +48

      Glad you clarified that. I wasted an entire semester in History of Economics.

    • @cyb3rklev872
      @cyb3rklev872 Рік тому +8

      Next video should be a longer video (15-20 min) about less influential but still relevant economists such as the Freiburg school boys

    • @sujosrw3272
      @sujosrw3272 Рік тому +2

      hoser i love you and your existence

    • @cempur7599
      @cempur7599 Рік тому +5

      As a current Econ student I'd say it's a good intro to economists, works well as a quick info dump and refresher.

  • @albevanhanoy
    @albevanhanoy Рік тому +4138

    Adam Smith is really the economist that everyone quotes but nobody reads. His overall view of the economy is fairly liberal, but he did not actually advocate for complete laissez-faire.
    "It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion." - Adam Smith, "father of capitalism" .

    • @meowtherainbowx4163
      @meowtherainbowx4163 Рік тому +675

      He also hated landlords

    • @orion5055
      @orion5055 Рік тому +202

      The only thing people are denying is trying to tax the rich obscenely. Because of two reasons:
      1. They *already* pay the most on taxes, contributing far far more than your average person. This is just and fair, because they can afford it.
      2. If you tax them or their property too much they will just leave. Leaving the higher taxes at the foot of everyone else's bill.
      Generally though I think your comment shows in a good way that using spectrums or trying to place names on people's ideas really doesn't do much other than detract from the *whole* of there ideas.

    • @James-jh3sz
      @James-jh3sz Рік тому +437

      @@orion5055
      1. Of course they pay the most taxes, they have the most money. People want them to pay even more than what they make proportionally because they need a smaller proportion of their wealth to be comfortable. That extra money spent on taxing them can be used much better on a larger group of people. I won't even touch on that last sentence, it's just silly.
      2. Just don't let them take "their" money (Wealthy people generally have their wealth in assets which can not be freely liquidated, such as stocks and real estate). Wealth isn't tied to a rich person, nor is the person themselves all that important, you can replace them with some relative ease.

    • @tkokflux6322
      @tkokflux6322 Рік тому +1

      @@James-jh3sz RICH SHOULD PAY EXACTLY SAME AMOUNT AS OTHERS PAY IF WE ARE GETTING SAME SERVICES WE SHOULD ALL PAY SAME! OHHHH IT CAN BE USED BETTER FOR LARGER GROUPS WHY TF SHOULD I BE FORCED TO CARE FOR OTHER PPL IF U ASK THEM THEY WONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ME SO IDC AND YES ITS THEIR MONEY U DIRTBAG

    • @therealspeedwagon1451
      @therealspeedwagon1451 Рік тому +89

      @@meowtherainbowx4163 as you should. Honestly nobody should own land and just rent it from government or some other collectively owning entity. Land taxes can generate far more revenue than income taxes.

  • @TheStrangeBloke
    @TheStrangeBloke Рік тому +1696

    You're ignoring that Adam Smith strongly argued for gov't regulation to maintain the freedom of the market. Saying that the gov't needed to break up monopolies and landlords.

    • @TheSpiritlol
      @TheSpiritlol Рік тому +95

      glad someone mentioned it

    • @rimondas6729
      @rimondas6729 Рік тому

      Adam Smith overlooked now because The capitalist Rentiers can't handle his ideas

    • @wojtek1582
      @wojtek1582 Рік тому +113

      Yep, it is often forgotten that this was to be free market with checks and balances :)

    • @orion5055
      @orion5055 Рік тому

      Yeah, most people now don't understand that Smith's capitalist ideals and America's economic policy is EXTREMELY protectionist. For the better I'd say, but there's always a line in keeping it a free-market vs a state-controlled one.

    • @Stellar_Politics
      @Stellar_Politics Рік тому +79

      I honestly feel like the bare minimum research was put into this video, it's short yes, but I could find the same info with a Google search and the same bias that paints Adam Smith as a lover of lasiefair capitalism and neoliberalism.

  • @go-gogodlike6179
    @go-gogodlike6179 Рік тому +1976

    I find it very humanizing that for all the lofty complexity of these grand economic theorems they all started as just men seeing worst of their homelands and thinking "there HAS to be something better".
    Good bit sized vid, hoser.

    • @101jir
      @101jir Рік тому +141

      I mean that's also pretty much the history of academia overall, albeit this more along the lines of philosophy and political science. Stuff like engineering is more like "there has to be a way to do this better."

    • @j.37
      @j.37 Рік тому +22

      that can apply to a whole lot of historical events which is simply beautiful

    • @prettygrllswagg
      @prettygrllswagg Рік тому +13

      @@j.37 human ingenuity at work :D

    • @willyorgy4677
      @willyorgy4677 Рік тому +47

      @@101jir the difference between engineering is that it’s absolute. If you do your calculations right and didn’t fail your physics and engineering classes (big if), you will get a certain result. It’s rooted in actual hard science. Economics isn’t science because none of the theories have any sort of universal application. It’s too subjective and no one can agree on anything and it’s always been that way. We just don’t know what the hell we are doing.

    • @101jir
      @101jir Рік тому +28

      @@willyorgy4677 I never said it was, but both are rooted in the pursuit of human improvement.

  • @corymorimacori1059
    @corymorimacori1059 Рік тому +2906

    “A bad economy and weak governments meant that the people are a little unhappy.”

    • @user-xi5ej4ox5s
      @user-xi5ej4ox5s Рік тому +67

      And bad economy and strong governments?

    • @shooby117
      @shooby117 Рік тому +471

      ​@@user-xi5ej4ox5s the people are forced to look happy

    • @niclas3672
      @niclas3672 Рік тому +119

      @@user-xi5ej4ox5s But good economy and strong government 😎

    • @TheSwedishHistorian
      @TheSwedishHistorian Рік тому +121

      @@niclas3672 happiness

    • @kakahass8845
      @kakahass8845 Рік тому +54

      @@niclas3672 What about a good economy and a weak government?

  • @petersteinga2430
    @petersteinga2430 Рік тому +776

    Side note: at 0:47 the GDP is mentioned in context of Adam Smiths theory. But actually, the GDP as a mearsurement for a national economy wasn't developed until the 1940s.

    • @alioshax7797
      @alioshax7797 Рік тому +14

      1934 to be precise, with the work of Simon Kuznet. But there were other, relatively similar indicators before. Also, the way we calculate GDP today is significatively different from the way we did it in the 1930s.

    • @deek0146
      @deek0146 Рік тому +18

      Adam Smith described a concept which we today label GDP. He did not name it as such, in fact I don't recall him giving it a name aside from "the sum total of all the productive labours of a nation" or similar, but it was the same concept.

  • @smegleymunroe863
    @smegleymunroe863 Рік тому +163

    Y’know, Marx actually cites Smith a HELL of a lot in Kapital. They weren’t fundamentally opposed

    • @pablolarreategui9489
      @pablolarreategui9489 3 місяці тому +3

      He used Smith has a medium for his theoretical socialism, one we can argue most of those analysis about Smith were incorrect. He used to disarticulate and criticize free market theory

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 3 місяці тому +8

      Yeah. The "labour theory of value" is not a socialist thing and not from Marx, it's laid out explicitly in The Wealth of Nations.

  • @Dd-fr6vc
    @Dd-fr6vc Рік тому +172

    Important to say with smith is that he also believed that consumers should have an good education so they would make the most sensibel decisions for a happy life

    • @shrekeyes2410
      @shrekeyes2410 Рік тому +18

      This is a given, its sad to see how little economy and politics looks at elementary education

    • @thehumanian634
      @thehumanian634 Рік тому +3

      @@shrekeyes2410sounds too expensive isn’t it bruv

    • @Dd-fr6vc
      @Dd-fr6vc Рік тому +5

      @@thehumanian634 its the basis of our modern society so maybe we should see it as an necessary cost that should not be cut cost on

    • @thehumanian634
      @thehumanian634 Рік тому +11

      @@Dd-fr6vc absolutely, but since children don’t vote the voting age population have to keep that in mind, and for the voters to do that, what do they have to be?

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +3

      @@shrekeyes2410 Economics was possibly the most influential class I took yet bruh. I was ass with it, but it was still really interesting.
      Ima be honest, its probably PURPOSEFULL why Economics is somehow not mandatory, while schools put money towards stupid shit.
      Me and a buddy of mine started an investing club awhile back. Economics and shit is actually really popular with kids too.
      It was literally a trend awhile back to open up a robinhood account and gamble your shit away.
      Thats literally what keynes did but on a more deterministic sense with his ideas too.
      Also parents complained about economics not being taught, so the school instead decided to teach kids about fucking "making a budget" or "loaning to a bank" instead of actually teaching us how the economy works.
      Bro I swear if the deepstate actually does exist, their probably the reason why macroeconomics isn't mandatory.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +1975

    "first modern man to really think of how to run an economy and he told us not to run it at all" immaculate advice seeing the current state of economy

    • @Ravtaku
      @Ravtaku Рік тому +22

      Hello Heisenberg 🗿🤝

    • @TheStrangeBloke
      @TheStrangeBloke Рік тому +382

      Adam Smith did actually favor interventions to break up non-producing rent-seekers like landlords and monopolists. This aspect of his advice is consistently ignored by people who are really fans of Friedman or Austrian Economics

    • @Merle1987
      @Merle1987 Рік тому +117

      @@TheStrangeBloke He was also against joint stock companies. No one ever listens to that. The stock market does create a kind of de facto oligarchy of the rich, given enough time.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Рік тому +56

      ​@@Merle1987 I'd take Adam Smith as an economist over whoever we currently have 💀

    • @darkshaver1
      @darkshaver1 Рік тому +7

      @Heisenberg Easy to say with the hindsight you're afforded while sitting behind a screen. Not even the most prominent economists can say for sure what would've happened otherwise, so don't crack wise as if you do.

  • @fritz1851
    @fritz1851 Рік тому +177

    i love the part where he said "Its Stimulatin' time!" and stimulated all over the place

    • @kurosu-samaklipleri7090
      @kurosu-samaklipleri7090 3 місяці тому +2

      I love simulations, especially ones that are giving to poor and needed, not already rich.

  • @viktator4205
    @viktator4205 Рік тому +86

    Fun fact for how influential Keynesian economics has been, economists still debate exactly what he meant in many parts of his General Theory.

    • @thedestoryer21
      @thedestoryer21 Рік тому +18

      For instance, Keynes advocates for a budget surplus, lower spending, during positive output gaps but I never see any politicians who do so making their “scientific” fiscal policies.

    • @ardendarling5613
      @ardendarling5613 Рік тому +8

      Isn't that more or less true for pretty much any influential thinker?

    • @therealgaben5527
      @therealgaben5527 Рік тому +6

      @@thedestoryer21 ya politicians like to do the spending part, but not to stop spending when they should

    • @megapeiron
      @megapeiron 4 місяці тому +1

      At the same time he did not know what Say meant.

  • @willburddr7060
    @willburddr7060 Рік тому +250

    1:14 Ay to say that Marx disliked Smith is complete bullshit. Marx’s ideas are a reaction to the developing capitalism of the 1800’s, but the actual economics Marx employs in Das Kapital are completely classical (IE, built on the work of Smith ). Marx paid lots of credit to Smith in his writing for essentially formalizing the study of economic relations. Keep in mind, Marx understood socialism to be the system which resolves the existential contradictions innate to the structure of capitalism. Marx even repeatedly remarks on the capacity of capitalism to rapidly develop and radically change huge swathes of literal continents - his issue was that the system is built to fail and its built on the back of a captive working class.

    • @shrekeyes2410
      @shrekeyes2410 Рік тому +17

      I admire marx , but the communist manifesto was a joke and the interpretations of marxism were terrible.

    • @manfacepfp9
      @manfacepfp9 Рік тому

      ​@@shrekeyes2410 same

    • @willburddr7060
      @willburddr7060 Рік тому +1

      @@shrekeyes2410 People are retarded and take the Manifesto as Marx’s end-all-be-all. Its really supposed to be a primer for the rest of his work, but that’s lost on 90% of classes and most history teachers in the west.

    • @tekinet7958
      @tekinet7958 Рік тому +11

      ​@@shrekeyes2410 how's so?

    • @nateisawesome766
      @nateisawesome766 Рік тому +57

      ​@@shrekeyes2410 you haven't read Marx

  • @ImtheHitcher
    @ImtheHitcher Рік тому +40

    Think yuo've done Adam Smith a lil dirty there - his ideas were massive because before him people believed in mercantlism (i.e every trade has a winner and a loser and that there is only so much wealth in the world which you need to compete for) whereas Smith understood that trade can, and does, add value on both sides of the trade

  • @NHCVMohammedNawaz
    @NHCVMohammedNawaz 4 місяці тому +13

    As a student of economics, it is wrong to say Marx hated Smith. One who has read Wealth of Nations and Das Capital will know that they have a lot more in common that people think

    • @nikolaizaicev9297
      @nikolaizaicev9297 Місяць тому

      For that to know, one needs to read his works on the surplus value theory. Mostly people don't even go beyond few pages of the capital.

  • @jackiemoffitt6780
    @jackiemoffitt6780 4 місяці тому +15

    Adam Smith actually also believed in labor theory of value which laid the groundwork for Marx.

  • @damonedrington3453
    @damonedrington3453 Рік тому +328

    Gotta love how it took humanity over 3000 years to develop the first real economic theory, and it was “eh, let it be”

    • @LowestofheDead
      @LowestofheDead Рік тому +23

      Nah, Ibn Khaldun did it first in the 1200s. He came up with the famous pin factory example about division of labor.

    • @Zurvanox
      @Zurvanox Рік тому +21

      Nah, the ancients had them first. Inflation by giving out coins with less value is not new.

    • @treboleekem499
      @treboleekem499 Рік тому +7

      Yeah maybe modern economist, but I read a 1000 page book about the entire history of economics. THAT I DON'T FUCKING REMEMBER 90 PERCENT OF BECAUSE IT IS SO BORING. But yeah there were economists even before the death of jaysus

    • @richhornie7000
      @richhornie7000 11 місяців тому +1

      That's how you got Great Depression

    • @luccaskingo
      @luccaskingo 11 місяців тому

      Socorro

  • @wordwatcher9495
    @wordwatcher9495 3 місяці тому +8

    Marx was not the first economist to argue that value can be objectively quantified by the amount of labor used to produce it. Ricardo and even Smith have argued for forms of the labor theory of value. Marx's contribution to the theory was to refine the source of value to be socially averaged necessary labor time.

    • @jackri7676
      @jackri7676 3 місяці тому +1

      and hence non observable labor time since it becomes abstracted in the act of exchange! cant expect much from these vdieos, but everything he said ab marx was wrong...

  • @zinedinezethro9157
    @zinedinezethro9157 4 місяці тому +24

    The whole thing is basically one guy saying to another guy: "NUH UH"

  • @RIGEL.K
    @RIGEL.K Рік тому +583

    Hayek never said State Welfare would lead to Totalitarianism. Infact he was in favor of some State Welfare. The Road to Serfdom is Simply about that Central Planning leads to Totalitarianism and without Private property you cannot have Political Freedom

    • @pridefulobserver3807
      @pridefulobserver3807 Рік тому

      so basically State welfare leads to totalitarianism... you just counterargumented yourself...

    • @oliverfern8039
      @oliverfern8039 Рік тому +123

      People debate his stance on welfare because, like most people, he changed his mind a lot. But because he is mostly cited by libertarians, his legacy has become "state welfare leads to totalitarianism"
      Which is a shame

    • @chbert1373
      @chbert1373 Рік тому +48

      Agree, but Hayek was against the welfare in a traditional way, more prefering decentralised welfare like Germany, Austria or Canada have, and he was also against government subsidies to welfare saying that it would be more effecrtive for welfare to compete on a rules of market, than as a legal monopoly

    • @II__argo__II
      @II__argo__II Рік тому +21

      ​@@chbert1373 this has always been my argument for UBI over current welfare systems - instead of the govt making all these rules about what you can/cant buy, and therefore spending even more money to police that, why not just give the money directly to the people and let them decide for themselves what they need? its basically "free market welfare" lol
      think of someone below the poverty line who owns a small, cheap house - they can probably afford food/water/electricity, but may not be able to afford major repairs necessary to keep their home in working order. current welfare systems dont help this person, but UBI would, and would be easier/cheaper for the govt

    • @paonippobemduro
      @paonippobemduro Рік тому +1

      @@oliverfern8039 but doesn't it leads? Lmao

  • @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM
    @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM Рік тому +26

    You got something a bit wrong, or inaccurate, in your video, Adam Smith also used the Labor Theory of Value, not just Marx. They were in agreement on quite a lot, as basically all classical economists were.

    • @spahbed7150
      @spahbed7150 Рік тому

      there's an awful lot in this video that is just horseshit

  • @urbaneblobfish9624
    @urbaneblobfish9624 Рік тому +13

    Two Corrections:
    GDP, a specific unit of measurement, did not exist when Adam Smith was alive. It's a more recent invention.
    Both Adam Smith and Karl Marx agreed that value came from the labor put into it. They came to different conclusions about this, of course.

  • @azaraniichan
    @azaraniichan Рік тому +309

    Marx did not believe value could be objectively calculated based on the labour time, that's something you find in Smith's philosophy. Estimating the value of labour based on objective notions of labour-time to social use was according to Marx part of the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism. The real value the workers should reclaim is mainly use-value, the access to the bare natural materials and the freedom to shape them and use them as needed.

    • @pridefulobserver3807
      @pridefulobserver3807 Рік тому +41

      labour has no value, the value is in the energy of transforming something into a product, and for that labour is NOT necesary, automations proves it.

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Рік тому +42

      People debating what Marx actually said, tale as old as time.

    • @azaraniichan
      @azaraniichan Рік тому +95

      @@Web720 A lot of those people haven't read Marx also (including a lot of marxists), which makes them debate arguments he never held

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Рік тому +24

      @@azaraniichan Again, a tale as old as time.

    • @azaraniichan
      @azaraniichan Рік тому

      @@pridefulobserver3807 Yeah, if I'm not mistaken that's why automation/industrialization is an integral part of marxism, to free people from labour as an objective and exchangeable value

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 Рік тому

    Nice to see a short format video that just gives you the basics

  • @bachpham6862
    @bachpham6862 Рік тому +1046

    Hayek and Friedman was walking down the road when they both see a pile of manure.
    Hayek said: "I am going to give you $1000 to eat some of them." Friedman agreed.
    Friedman then said: "Now I am going to give you $1000 to eat some of them." Hayek agreed.
    After that, Hayek asks: "Did nothing change at all?"
    Friedman said: "No, the GDP has increased by $2000."

    • @EspHack
      @EspHack Рік тому +133

      AND, there's less manure now

    • @sla8tful
      @sla8tful Рік тому +33

      These are the last two economists to say that…

    • @Tovarisch_Shen
      @Tovarisch_Shen Рік тому

      I’d eat manure for free maaaaan

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Рік тому +1

      Friedman's claim is wrong. The GDP did not increase. Hayek is also wrong, because something did change: Their dental health went down the fucking toilet by eating manure. Two of the worst economists to ever exist on this Earth.

    • @Stellar_Politics
      @Stellar_Politics Рік тому +1

      Karl Marx: but why are we eating manure in the first place??? This is clearly a coercive exploitation of the money incentive!

  • @ekut1922
    @ekut1922 Рік тому +4

    I think Keynes was kinda hype ngl, probably has the most badass quote. Your channel literally got me into economics and I'm writing exams next week, thank you for being an inspiration

  • @tabletuser123
    @tabletuser123 Рік тому +18

    my favorite moment was when Kaynes said “It’s stimulatin’ time” and stimulated the economy

  • @samwiseshanti
    @samwiseshanti Рік тому +7

    I like how this video shows that these aren't just people who have different ideas, they have ideas that draw from and build on each other.

  • @lamarnash2439
    @lamarnash2439 Рік тому +2

    Whoa, that was a great explanation of all the best. Imagine having this memorized for casual talk.

  • @jamesclarke2789
    @jamesclarke2789 Рік тому +17

    The video mentioned Smith as "the first modern man to really think of how to run an economy", though that status probably belongs to Anders Chydenius.
    His book, 'The National Gain', expressed and discussed views on economics very similar to the views Smith would independently develop, with 'The National Gain' predating 'The Wealth of Nations' by 11 years. Though aside from having his face plastered onto a Finnish banknote, Chydenius is largely forgotten and overlooked.
    Also, important to note is that the way the term 'The Invisible Hand' is currently used is a result of later economists changing and broadening the term to mean what it currently does. Smith was the first one to use the phrase, in both 'The Wealth of Nations' and his earlier work, 'The Theory of Moral Sentiments', though what he meant by The Invisible hand was actually far more constrained than what modern economists seem to suggest.

    • @frantisekhajek6775
      @frantisekhajek6775 Рік тому +3

      And then there is Xenophon who wrote about the benefits of trade and specialization as a sidenote to his military a philosophic text. He was a pupil of Socrates.

  • @manga-e-filosofia96
    @manga-e-filosofia96 4 місяці тому +10

    Workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains.

    • @zMasterFlashSz
      @zMasterFlashSz 4 місяці тому +2

      Porém podem perder a sua comida e seus empregos

    • @thesecondsilvereich7828
      @thesecondsilvereich7828 Місяць тому

      We know the ussr failed it was a dictatorship of people

    • @user-hg9pu9ju8w
      @user-hg9pu9ju8w 9 днів тому

      ​@@zMasterFlashSzpq os brasileiros são tão anti-socialismo?

    • @idzidz833
      @idzidz833 3 дні тому

      @@zMasterFlashSz escravo

  • @superhond1733
    @superhond1733 4 місяці тому

    This video changed my life. Got me invested into economics.
    Just read the road to serfdom.
    Your great. Thx.

  • @CrazyBros64
    @CrazyBros64 Рік тому

    I like your videos so much! and you only put up this video 5 minutes ago when I saw the video! Thank goodness I found this video early!

  • @wholesomedeus1655
    @wholesomedeus1655 Рік тому +4

    I desire a longer version of this

  • @Corkerstein
    @Corkerstein Рік тому +6

    Pretty cool video, I like how objective it is

  • @nenish
    @nenish Рік тому +52

    Glad to see some love for Hayek

  • @lordrefrigerator
    @lordrefrigerator Рік тому +21

    Very informative! You should make more videos like this.

  • @StateoftheWorld
    @StateoftheWorld Рік тому +8

    Wow hoser you’ve really outdone yourself I’m so proud xoxo

  • @edugames1238
    @edugames1238 4 місяці тому +58

    As an economics student this video hurts immensely 💀

    • @crocodilepoet
      @crocodilepoet 4 місяці тому +7

      Could you recommend some study material for someone who wants to understand economics but doesn’t have a formal education?

    • @raylo996
      @raylo996 3 місяці тому +5

      Are you going to public university in USA or Canada? Likely you are being taught state approved economics classes that teach Keynes bs

    • @edugames1238
      @edugames1238 3 місяці тому

      @@crocodilepoet try reading Adam smith thoughts on value, Ricardo’s too, Marx etc. I’m at my second year so I don’t know much to suggest you, I know there’s a lot of good stuff coming in these next years. I will come back here eventually with more interesting stuff, but for now, try reading the classics. A good book is The Great Transformation by Karl Polanyi, and Caliban and the Witch by Silvia Federici

    • @edugames1238
      @edugames1238 3 місяці тому +16

      @@raylo996 my dude, I’m being taught everything, I’m at a state university at São Paulo, the biggest state at Brazil, so I’m fine, thanks for asking? And it’s very naive of you to think state approved stuff are Keynesian stuff lol 😂, in Yugoslavia? Maybe. But in the United States? Come on, be honest

    • @bernardopedro4441
      @bernardopedro4441 3 місяці тому

      ​@@edugames1238 USP?

  • @ronstukysunde6283
    @ronstukysunde6283 4 місяці тому

    This 5 minutes vid is so good bro. I swallow all the knowledge without need for drinks

  • @jamesharrison6569
    @jamesharrison6569 Рік тому +617

    Interesting , a number of the most eminent market experts have been expressing their views on the severity of the impending economic downturn and the extent to which equities might plummet. This is because the economy is heading towards a recession and inflation is persistently above the Federal Reserve's 2% target. As I'm aiming to create a portfolio worth no less than $850,000 before I turn 60, I would appreciate any advice on potential investments.

    • @serenasmith2859
      @serenasmith2859 Рік тому

      I've been in touch with a financial advisor ever since I started my business. Knowing today's culture The challenge is knowing when to purchase or sell when investing in trending stocks, which is pretty simple. On my portfolio, which has grown over $900k in a little over a year, my adviser chooses entry and exit orders.

    • @serenasmith2859
      @serenasmith2859 Рік тому

      My advisor is SOFIA ERAILDA SEMA , a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market

    • @jamesgeorge5896
      @jamesgeorge5896 Рік тому

      @@serenasmith2859 Well, that's a good suggestion! Sofia is someone I also know. She is my mentor as well. I heartily endorse her

    • @juvnal
      @juvnal Рік тому +8

      @@jamesgeorge5896 I'll be sure to avoid SOFIA ERAILDA SEMA as a financial advisor if I ever come across her. Thanks!

    • @jamesgeorge5896
      @jamesgeorge5896 Рік тому +1

      @@juvnal no one cares

  • @nrkapa
    @nrkapa 4 місяці тому +5

    Adam Smith defended the labor theory of value, I don't understand why everytime people who don't know about economics reference Adam Smith it's to mention that "invisible hand of the market" bullshit. He did a lot more than this.

    • @allergy5634
      @allergy5634 4 місяці тому

      Adam Smith was the first to describe free market capitalism. People who haven’t actually read him think that that means he uncritically supported it even though anyone who has actually read Wealth of Nations would know that isn’t the case.

    • @zMasterFlashSz
      @zMasterFlashSz 4 місяці тому

      Adam Smith errou muito. Valor-trabalho foi um desses erros.

    • @Spido68_the_spectator
      @Spido68_the_spectator 2 місяці тому

      He DID NOT speak about the invisible hand of market. STOP SPREADING THE LIE.
      He did speak about an invisible hand 3 times, each in a different book, but to refer to... God !
      Smith also criticised markets and the division of labor as potential threats to our humanity... and freedom

  • @Drewstir68
    @Drewstir68 Рік тому +15

    Hats off to you for doing a decent crash course, felt like Econ political thought all over again

    • @ynk1611
      @ynk1611 Рік тому +3

      Yeah because this is 75% wrong

    • @Drewstir68
      @Drewstir68 Рік тому +1

      @@ynk1611 okk mister cat

  • @alejandrobielsabracamonte5304

    thanks bro really educationally interesting

  • @charliemaine9304
    @charliemaine9304 Рік тому +71

    This is really good for a crash course! Please do Ricardo, Malthus, Schumpeter, & Mill next. If you want a hero-like figure (subjective ofc), try Paul Volcker and his campaign against high inflation in the 70s.

    • @Jokkkkke
      @Jokkkkke Рік тому +1

      Should add Nicholas Kaldor and Elinor Ostrom to that list!

    • @MrKobus-rz4qy
      @MrKobus-rz4qy Рік тому +3

      Thomas Sowell is a must have

    • @cantthinkofaname812
      @cantthinkofaname812 Рік тому +3

      Henry George please! (Is Pope Leo XIII, Chesterton, and Proudhon also an option?)

    • @rimondas6729
      @rimondas6729 Рік тому +4

      @@MrKobus-rz4qy no he isn't a prominent economist

    • @MrKobus-rz4qy
      @MrKobus-rz4qy Рік тому +1

      @RIMON DAS dude he is the most prominent in our current day and age, and he's arguable the smartest aswell. Being honest, I have not heard of a single person the comment listed

  • @corymorimacori1059
    @corymorimacori1059 Рік тому +4

    You should do a video on Sweden, Austria, Poland, France, Germany, and Mongolia

  • @Xilir2009
    @Xilir2009 4 місяці тому +3

    The problem with all of them expept marx and adam is that they didn't account for big multinational companies. These monopoly or ogypogoly make that the companies can just destroy all competition and set prices to anything

    • @zMasterFlashSz
      @zMasterFlashSz 4 місяці тому

      Não existem monopólios em um genuíno livre-mercado. É simplesmente impossível.

    • @allergy5634
      @allergy5634 4 місяці тому +3

      @@zMasterFlashSznot only is monopolisation possible, it’s inevitable.

  • @AlexAyoub_
    @AlexAyoub_ Рік тому +5

    4:45 The bottom picture with the red arrow is not Friedman - it is Alan Greenspan. Not sure if you are pointing at Greenspan to emphasize the Federal Reserve, but the other arrows were all pointing at Milton Friedman, so I assumed that you intended to do the same with the third. :)

  • @sumansaxena2277
    @sumansaxena2277 Рік тому +415

    So basically, capitalism runs on the basis of
    "They will buy that Joe"
    "Why do you think that?"
    "They just will"
    and it works

    • @otavongryf1379
      @otavongryf1379 Рік тому

      No, only if there is demand. If I am producing useless products, no one will buy them

    • @jackjackingson3497
      @jackjackingson3497 Рік тому +57

      Yeah, basically. It's essentially a streamlined barter system.

    • @iandavidvillaloboswong5180
      @iandavidvillaloboswong5180 Рік тому +97

      Capitalism is the principle of supply and demand which is how any economy works

    • @itsawill9268
      @itsawill9268 Рік тому +6

      Economics is tough no way to simplify really

    • @monkey-d-lukey1667
      @monkey-d-lukey1667 Рік тому +6

      @@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 you mean which is how any capitalist economy works

  • @meowingsoup8293
    @meowingsoup8293 Рік тому

    Let's goooo!!!! This channel is the best, and I just finished another video and now there a new video!! 😮😮😮

  • @be_al
    @be_al Рік тому

    A true privilege to gain knowledge regarding the historical backgrounds and philosophies of economics!

  • @johndoh1000
    @johndoh1000 Рік тому +3

    Pretty good summary of their ideas. Great as an introduction. Bad as a means of engaging in economic theory. There’s so much more to talk about regarding each economic theory’s outcome and the nuance that comes with it.
    Overall though, for what the video was supposed to be its pretty good 👍

  • @bendavis7817
    @bendavis7817 Рік тому +91

    Wow! Really good quick explanation. I teach intro to economics at a high school and will definitely be incorporating this into my curriculum next year! Good stuff!

    • @o.s.h.4613
      @o.s.h.4613 7 місяців тому +7

      Please do not. His representation of Smith and Marx here is abysmal. Marx is particularly more egregious here, the only thing represented semi-correctly is “Capitalist profits are based on theft,” which is describing it at a mile’s distance; it’s like speaking of calculus as “Using numbers and letters for math.” It’s vague and unusable

    • @epicgamer-ur1wg
      @epicgamer-ur1wg 6 місяців тому +1

      😟

    • @gunpowderwithnosulfur9042
      @gunpowderwithnosulfur9042 4 місяці тому

      so both the replies here were urging you not to, and, honestly...maybe don't use it as a genuine representation of information? BUT it might be helpful to get the students wanting for actual knowledge behind the figures

  • @SpazTc01
    @SpazTc01 Рік тому

    Bro your Chanel makes me wanna learn.

  • @Rockstarmade224
    @Rockstarmade224 Рік тому

    This is a helpgul video for me considering I want to become an economist

  • @aidenkrysciak1904
    @aidenkrysciak1904 Рік тому +4

    i hope you realize that adam smith actually came up with the labor theory of value. also you get the distinction between value and price mixed up for Marx who thought that labor value was a sort of baseline for market price alongside use value

  • @MrCmon113
    @MrCmon113 Рік тому +9

    Halfway in and this is already extremely cringe.
    Adam Smith used the metaphor of an "invisible hand" once and his theory of how economies function was accepted by Marx. Smith also explicitly laid out the "labour theory of value". Marx really agreed with Smith about almost everything.

    • @TheChewman2001
      @TheChewman2001 Рік тому +1

      i literally came to say exactly this. the labor theory of value was literally what even the american government subscribed to until fairly recently.

  • @pepela8214
    @pepela8214 3 місяці тому +1

    I love that this video included a little bit about their backgrounds and the conditions in which their ideas developed.
    Like, if you grew up during hyperinflation you'd arrive at different conclusions than if you grew up during the great depression.

  • @esotericcommonsense6366
    @esotericcommonsense6366 Рік тому +2

    Hearing a bunch of different famous economists theories is like hearing the story of blind me groping an elephant to figure out what it is.

  • @Quatschtotal
    @Quatschtotal Рік тому +4

    For the next part you have to add Ludwig Erhard and his impact on Europe with his concept of social market economy which still dominates European economics and started the post war "Wirtschaftswunder".

    • @___alessandro.337
      @___alessandro.337 Рік тому

      #LongLiveMarketEconomy😘

    • @maxfeeldcomp
      @maxfeeldcomp Рік тому +1

      Except that it wasn't his concept, but he was forced into doing it by the general strikes of 1948

  • @alexanderflores2160
    @alexanderflores2160 Рік тому +5

    Was it not David Ricardo that would present the specialization of trade and nations for comparative advantage and not smith? Smith from what i recall would still believe in Absolute advantage for trade.

  • @stanislavgeorgiev992
    @stanislavgeorgiev992 3 місяці тому

    special thanks for directly getting to the point and not putting intro and outro

  • @Staul_
    @Staul_ 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video. However, at 4:44, the person on the bottom photo is not Milton Friedman but rather Alan Greenspan.

  • @tomwilson874
    @tomwilson874 Рік тому +7

    Would be great if Friedman was alive through the covid money printing era.

  • @Zed_Oud
    @Zed_Oud Рік тому +20

    Amazing how Henry George disappears when Hayek and Keynes had to contend with or justify their work in contrast to his work in their time.

  • @javieralvarez2792
    @javieralvarez2792 Рік тому

    Love ur videos!

  • @gsp_admirador
    @gsp_admirador 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video. Which book should I read to understand the thoughts of these great thinkers in detail?

    • @jackri7676
      @jackri7676 3 місяці тому

      miochael ehinrich's introduction to the 3 volumes of capital

  • @whapadoodle
    @whapadoodle Рік тому +49

    this is the most interested i’ll ever be in economics

  • @back_togetherr
    @back_togetherr Рік тому +4

    money is quite a good thing i do believe

  • @shinsenshogun900
    @shinsenshogun900 Рік тому

    We need to have a video on the most influential ancient economists empires have ever bought

  • @SabeethThePilot
    @SabeethThePilot Рік тому

    You should make a video about countries like Bangladesh, Peru, Angola, Sudan since they would be interesting.

  • @user-gr9fq9gt9w
    @user-gr9fq9gt9w Рік тому +3

    0:49
    h0ser just made a Neo-Doggerland

  • @JOGA_Wills
    @JOGA_Wills Рік тому +3

    Henry George is slowly on the rise

  • @redgribben7679
    @redgribben7679 3 місяці тому +1

    David Ricardo is more influential than Hayek. He is the reason we have international trade. He put forth the idea of comparative advantages, where even if i am objectively worse at producing something, because if i am relatively better we can still trade.

  • @watsup1506
    @watsup1506 Рік тому +2

    The 'invest in BITCOIN' quote over Kayens is just pure art. Oh the irony lol

  • @maracabo1176
    @maracabo1176 11 місяців тому +8

    What we call learn from this is that economist absolutism is a thing to aware of, this economic theories were based on the environment these people lived in, so their theories are based on how to fight the economic difficulties that their countries were facing at the time, so each of their theories can be used in different places at different times and the idea that one is absolutely good or absolutely bad is something that all interested in economics should ditch before even beginning to study the subject

    • @iruleatgames
      @iruleatgames 5 місяців тому +1

      The idea that all economic systems are equally true is laughable false, regardless of where on the political and economic spectrum one finds themselves. The theories contradict each other at their core, therefore, they are incompatible.

    • @gaeig
      @gaeig 3 місяці тому

      Marxism is the only theory which made sense in a deeply hierarchical Western world back then, and makes sense in the Global South exploited by Global North MNCs now

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 3 місяці тому

      That's just the framing of the video, lol.

  • @AlexmanFore
    @AlexmanFore Рік тому +3

    Actually a very good summary. Great video

    • @frocco7125
      @frocco7125 Рік тому +1

      No. Every single one of these economists was misinterpreted or lied about lol.

  • @uiopisreal9966
    @uiopisreal9966 Рік тому

    thats a very good video, sir

  • @abraxasee8946
    @abraxasee8946 Рік тому +2

    In the way you put this, it sounds like if every man in this video was smoking something when they write about economy.

  • @spahbed7150
    @spahbed7150 Рік тому +150

    Your stuff is usually good but this is an awfully researched video. The entire thing about the "invisible hand" in Adam Smith is a myth that started out of Samuelson's textbook in the 40s which he later tried to correct, to no avail. Smith uses the metaphor only once in the entire book and for a completely different reason, it's really of almost no significance if you read the book itself. Furthermore, Marx and Smith did not disagree regarding the value of commodities either, they BOTH upheld the labour theory of value, in fact every major economist until the 20th century did so. Furthermore, Marx's analysis of capitalism doesn't start from class struggle, you did a terrible job of distinguishing Marx's critique of capitalism from his political principles. Class struggle and crisis theory ARE discovered in his critique of political economy, as they are in both Smith and Ricardo, but they are discovered in the process of the critique, they ARE NOT starting points. You seem to have gone from popular conceptions rather than actually researching these thinkers.

    • @blocks4857
      @blocks4857 Рік тому +3

      My only problem is that he describes Adam Smith the father of economics

    • @jsegovia
      @jsegovia Рік тому +16

      @@blocks4857 That was one of the only things he got right!

    • @blocks4857
      @blocks4857 Рік тому

      @@jsegovia but he isn't

    • @tognah6918
      @tognah6918 Рік тому

      Adam smith fans are the biggest wankers

    • @Staygold1999
      @Staygold1999 Рік тому

      LTV was the standard until the 19th century actually, it was mainly left aside after the marginalist revolution and Alfred Marshall's books became the standard in the first economics schools

  • @gaspy2458
    @gaspy2458 Рік тому +6

    A little known fact is that most of Keynesian theories are inspired by the measures taken by the Japanese central bank to fight off the great depression.

  • @Genaaa916
    @Genaaa916 Рік тому

    This has an impressive amount of information for a 5-minute video.

  • @TheJudge_Carls_Junior_Rep
    @TheJudge_Carls_Junior_Rep Рік тому

    Now we need another economist and future ones to do stuff that stabilizes

  • @pridefulobserver3807
    @pridefulobserver3807 Рік тому +15

    We need more heroes like Hayek and less a totalitarian enablers like keynes

    • @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM
      @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM Рік тому +4

      Your government uses Keynesian policy, I can guarantee it. Especially after a recession, Keynesian policy is the go to of every government. To call him authoritarian is silly.

    • @treboleekem499
      @treboleekem499 Рік тому +5

      @@B4CKWARDS_CH4RM Keynes is authoritarian. And he completely messed up peoples perceptions of why recessions happen. I'm not going to explain, but the one economist they left off the list was Ludwig Von Mises. I'd recommend you look him up.

  • @ajfallacious
    @ajfallacious Рік тому +4

    adam smith also believed the labor theory of value

    • @Coraxiom
      @Coraxiom 4 місяці тому

      And he was also wrong :). The labor theory of value is the fallacy he copied directly from Adams.

  • @thomasfoltin3832
    @thomasfoltin3832 3 місяці тому +1

    Putting “just print more money” above Milton Friedmans picture in the thumbnail is criminal lmao

  • @atreyustratula
    @atreyustratula Рік тому

    Bro that final graph is scary AF

  • @matthawkins123
    @matthawkins123 Рік тому +31

    Was marx an economist? i always thought of him as more of a sociologist.

    • @pridefulobserver3807
      @pridefulobserver3807 Рік тому +2

      he was freeloader an a fraud

    • @pedrosalvador6341
      @pedrosalvador6341 Рік тому

      Nowadays, he is more important in sociology rather than economics. I think you may guess why Marxism is kinda out of fashion in economics... hahaha

    • @shrekeyes2410
      @shrekeyes2410 Рік тому +8

      Yeah well uhh.. classical leftism = sociology

    • @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM
      @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM Рік тому +47

      He studied what was then called “political economy” which is basically political science, economics, and philosophy all mixed together. It wasn’t until the 1900s (especially after WWII) that people had a distinction between these studies at all.
      So yes you could say Marx was an economist, but also a philosopher, sociologist, and political scientist.

    • @___alessandro.337
      @___alessandro.337 Рік тому +1

      I always though of him as more a philosopher

  • @treboleekem499
    @treboleekem499 Рік тому +3

    Keynes literally admitted he was wrong the week before he died

  • @lingv_26599
    @lingv_26599 Рік тому

    Good video essay, you get an A+ sir...

  • @ihateuilovepoke
    @ihateuilovepoke Рік тому

    Can't wait to watch :)

  • @WannabeMarsanach
    @WannabeMarsanach Рік тому +3

    RIP Henry George

  • @thejwoom9912
    @thejwoom9912 Рік тому +4

    No Henry George
    😢😢😢

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Рік тому +1

    I think part of the problem here is that different people have really different ideas what they mean when they say "value."
    I can think of several completely different definitions here.
    1. Marginal time spent making it.
    2. Average time spent making it including amortizing capital goods.
    3. Average time spent making it including amortizing capital goods and human capital.
    4. Monetary cost to a co-op with no wage floor and inherited capital. I.E. the raw cost to buy the inputs of production.
    5. Monetary costs incurred by a slave-owner after amortizing the cost of slaves and capital goods.
    6. Monetary costs incurred by a for-profit businesses with wage labor amortizing the cost of training and capital goods.
    8. Maximum Prosumption price. The maximum price at which it is more economically favorable for the producer to use a newly produced item themselves than sell it on the market.
    9. Minimum viable market price. The lowest price at which it would be economically rational for the seller to sell instead of either using the good for themselves or not producing it at all, irrespective of market conditions or equilibrium price. Below this price, commodity production will not occur much if at all.
    10. Monopsony price. The price when an all powerful consumer's union dictates the price. Maximizes the absolute benefit to consumers.
    11. "true" Equilibrium price. What would the chil- I mean good, sell for on the open market to an end user? Largely assumes that buyers and sellers don't negotiate on price and that price discrimination policies don't exist or are circumvented effortlessly, also assumes that speculation does not occur. Note this means it is not accurate to real market conditions. This is the price that causes the largest absolute economic value added from the sale of this good on the market in aggregate, though not necessarily the most efficient gain of value when there are many different goods on a market competing for production resources.
    11. Mean market price. Dollars paid over goods sold. The actual price on a market under real conditions, with haggling, senior discounts, and rampant speculative purchasing. Anything from an honest reflection of the equilibrium price for better or worse, to pure chaos and madness.
    12. Maximum level playing field monopoly price. The maximum price that a cartel or monopoly can charge while keeping barriers to entry high enough that nobody can actually compete with THAT price.
    13. Monopoly price. The price a monopoly that doesn't worry about competition because it has anticompetitive practices or exclusive rights or state backing or death squads or controls every viable source of an important resource would charge. Maximizes industry-wide profit at the expense of consumers.
    14. Maximum viable price. The maximum price someone could actually buy something at while feeling like they have gained enough from the transaction to justify the effort of making it.
    15. Use value. The actual utility someone attributes to their possession of a good.

  • @bastard-took-the-name-I-had
    @bastard-took-the-name-I-had 4 місяці тому

    Its like each economist is only allowed to discover one piece of the puzzle

  • @Zed_Oud
    @Zed_Oud Рік тому +23

    Henry George was significantly more popular in his time than Marx.
    He divided the economy into labor, capitalists, and *land owners*.
    You can see land owners were more influential than capitalists given how successfully George’s idea were snuffed out compared to Marx.

    • @Noam_.Menashe
      @Noam_.Menashe Рік тому +3

      No, more people are landowners, so they didn't like a theory that went against them.
      Marx went against the Jews and the rich, and people couldn't have cared less about them.

    • @patrickbateman1660
      @patrickbateman1660 7 місяців тому +3

      The overlap between capitalists and land owners is almost 99.9%

    • @terdragontra8900
      @terdragontra8900 5 місяців тому

      ​@@patrickbateman1660 i believe the point is that if the system were different, capitalists wouldnt be land owners (to the same extent) which would be better

  • @lordspongebobofhousesquare1616

    I understand that they are all influential, but I don't think Karl Marx and Friedrich Hayek is that influential in the modern subject of economics itself. That goes for Adam Smith as well, but he started the subject and discovered its basic ideas, so I guess he's still influential

    • @shrekeyes2410
      @shrekeyes2410 Рік тому +6

      those 3 are super influential, and hayek was the first influential right winging economist in modernity

    • @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM
      @B4CKWARDS_CH4RM Рік тому +9

      Marx is the basis for the largest heterodox economics school, Marxist economics. They don’t follow Marx’s ideas down the line, but he’s still very important to the study of economics.

  • @Domnom22
    @Domnom22 Рік тому +1

    Sometimes I think that maybe I can understand economics a little and then I think about it for like 30 seconds and remember why I don't know anything about economics

  • @aggressiveq8229
    @aggressiveq8229 Рік тому

    Would love to see you make a video on kuwait .

  • @reddoctorproductions3746
    @reddoctorproductions3746 Рік тому +3

    Didn't Adam Smith also subscribe to the labor theory of value? And Marx's main issue with capitalism wasn't that it stole from workers, it was that it made workers sell their labor in the first place.

  • @thehumanian634
    @thehumanian634 Рік тому +4

    So, genuine question.
    Is private ownership a necessity for individual freedom?
    And if so, while also assuming individual freedom is the most important good.
    Does that make Marxist-socialism inherently as evil as feudalism?
    I have heard convincing arguments for why it’s inherently imperialistic but I am curious as to what y’all think.

    • @gaeig
      @gaeig 3 місяці тому

      In an ideal communist state you are technically free to do whatever you like and have full freedom in all senses of the word only if you don't consider the freedom of using/continue using the land, wealth, property and other socio-economic privileges steeped in just plain tradition you might have the right to legally inherit or the opportunity to exploit from your bourgeois family as a commercial enterprise as a violation of individual freedoms.
      However, in many communist states this hasn't been the case even where it was as simple as criticism of the state because of an irrational paranoia that the global bourgeoisie can use any evidence of civil dissatisfaction as a legal justification to fund the Western politicians for feigning off all strokes of communism from its own territories and to suffocate the infant communist regimes via trade blockades, tariffs etc etc