The Remarkable Rise & Fall of the NASL

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • From Franz Beckenbauer and Pele at the New York Cosmos to George Best and Johan Cruyff with the Los Angeles Aztecs, during the late 1970s and early 1980s, the North American Soccer League - NASL - attracted some of the finest footballers / soccer players on Earth at one time.
    Despite the influx of big names and some clubs attracting large crowds, ultimately the league became unsustainable and suffered financial collapse in 1984.
    In this short documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look back at the rise, fall, and downright madness of the North American Soccer League, and it's legacy in terms of the history of soccer in United States and worldwide to this day.
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  • @Roscododger
    @Roscododger 4 роки тому +301

    I know these videos get like 12 views but I really love these. Anyone can make a video on 7 players who "..." but not everyone can make a football history video with accurate and unbiased information like you do. I think your talents really show through in these videos and I hope they keep coming.

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 4 роки тому

      Rosco Dodger why do you think it not get a lot some of these type get loooadsss

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 4 роки тому +1

      Like what has gone wrong for pep

    • @harveyholmes9533
      @harveyholmes9533 4 роки тому +8

      GothicGolem29 think he means the historical videos, some of the best football content out there and it doesn’t do as well as the 7s videos

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 4 роки тому +1

      @@harveyholmes9533 ohhh nt the documentry 1s like pep and Liverpool ok

    • @GCAbleism158
      @GCAbleism158 4 роки тому

      If you like the us soccer videos I recommend checking out DannyTRadio.

  • @bullmaguire7330
    @bullmaguire7330 4 роки тому +150

    Honestly super greatful that's there's a European football channel giving objective and fair coverage to U.S. football/soccer 👍
    Thank you!! 🙏

  • @pkingglazersout6665
    @pkingglazersout6665 4 роки тому +102

    Alfie as you are making videos on ideas like these , I recommend you to do one on the Bosman's Law which came in effect in the 1990s europe, it changed the trajectory of transfers in football. A very interesting topic to cover.

    • @goattm2
      @goattm2 4 роки тому +6

      What this guy said. Do that.

  • @goattm2
    @goattm2 4 роки тому +123

    I remember watching those "American penalties" as a kid when they showed NASL highlights on Transworld Sport. The American supporters couldn't handle draws so every game that ended a draw (league included) they would have to go through a penalty shootout to determine a winner. It was a bit strange and changed the dynamic of matches. An away draw against a strong team is a good result and they did away with draws being seen as a good result.

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +14

      Draws are integral to football/soccer, though those penalties are quite intriguing.

    • @hawkinsstern5356
      @hawkinsstern5356 4 роки тому +11

      personally I like those better. Not only do they actually resemble the game, unlike a dead ball, but as a goalkeeper you can influence the play even if a shooter takes their approach really well. a well taken PK probably isnt savable

    • @tlawal7
      @tlawal7 4 роки тому +12

      I would actually like this in all football. Losing a draw penalty shootout would be 1 point and winning it would be 2

    • @tenko5541
      @tenko5541 4 роки тому +3

      Draws are shit. It's the thing I like least about football.

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 4 роки тому +11

      @@tlawal7 See, this is what I've thought football could take from hockey. Especially w/ the 3pt system. A draw is 1 point, a shootout win is 2, and a proper win would be 3.
      The hockey-style penalty shot, to me, is a better game-decider than the lay-up contest that is penalties proper. There is actual skill for both the taker and the keeper involved. And the conversion percentages were lower than penalties as well. Now, the kick-ins and the offside line and other things NASL tried to make soccer more like outdoor ice hockey? Well, I love hockey. But I love it for itself. :P

  • @paulmiller7838
    @paulmiller7838 4 роки тому +27

    It is interesting that you brought up some of the new "rules" that the NASL invented that the world just ended up adopted but no one gives them credit for. It's very similar to how the XFL which lasted only 1 season came up with some new ideas that the NFL ended up adopting but will naturally never give them credit for. It's also interesting how many current MLS teams are named after former NASL teams such as the Vancouver Whitecaps and Seattle Sounders.

    • @toritwopointoh
      @toritwopointoh 4 роки тому +4

      the Sounders have some sort of direct lineage to their NASL team, no?

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 4 роки тому +3

      @@toritwopointoh Not being a Sounders fan there are probably others more qualified to answer but if I am not mistaken the answer is no. They were a USL team which was named after the NASL team but were their own independent team taking up the old name and look to honor the team of old. Then they paid to become an MLS team and technically no longer hold claim to any of their achievements in USL (not that I know if they actually achieved anything there) but still kept the team name and look. Basically, they are the Sounders in name but have no direct link to the NASL team. However, I could be mistaken.

    • @davidw860
      @davidw860 4 роки тому +3

      Spiritual mostly. Theme song, name, Schmetzer. The USL Sounders maintained the logo and look of the NASL Sounders, but when they went MLS, they were almost Seattle United, and it was only due to a fan outcry that the name "Sounders" was kept as "Sounders FC". There was a new crest, but many players and coaches and owners came across (Schmetzer, Le Toux) but MLS Sounders are basically a different organization.
      FWIW, there is an unofficial thing called the NASL "Heritage Cup" between San Jose Earthquakes, Seattle Sounders, Vancouver Whitecaps, and Portland Timbers as teams that kept their NASL names. The Cascadia Cup is the only one these teams care about though so it hasn't become a thing.

  • @alhollywood6486
    @alhollywood6486 4 роки тому +29

    I went to LA Aztecs and California Surf matches back when I was a kid. Thanks for this!

    • @peterdraper2611
      @peterdraper2611 3 роки тому

      Day 2 of asking for the best footballer for each of the top 50 most common first names

  • @bishiamme4981
    @bishiamme4981 4 роки тому +45

    It's like the company man series but instead of business, we're talking about football

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending 4 роки тому +1

      Company man used to have a basketball channel iirc

  • @AndyisAverage
    @AndyisAverage 4 роки тому +60

    7 teams ripped apart after success eg Monaco

    • @suhaylmirza884
      @suhaylmirza884 4 роки тому +2

      Ajax as well

    • @georgewhitfield503
      @georgewhitfield503 4 роки тому +1

      @@suhaylmirza884 ajax is still quite decent tho

    • @suhaylmirza884
      @suhaylmirza884 4 роки тому +3

      @@georgewhitfield503 Not saying they aren't, some of their best like de ligt, de Jong, ziyech and van de beek have gone tho

    • @qkomodo9098
      @qkomodo9098 4 роки тому

      Barça have become a SHADOW of what they were since MSN & Xavi

    • @dfez6884
      @dfez6884 4 роки тому

      @@qkomodo9098 they weren't ripped apart. They just got old and eventually left one by one

  • @rmzidann
    @rmzidann 3 роки тому +3

    MLS is a stable league… the more we see Americans in Chelsea, Barca, Dortmund, and Juve, the better for the future of football in the USA! 🇺🇸👍🏼

  • @ratedpending
    @ratedpending 4 роки тому +21

    6:19 also part of the reason that it was called "soccer goes american" is because that team (Bob Rigby included) was largely american, unlike most NASL teams

  • @connorbardine4072
    @connorbardine4072 4 роки тому +68

    I highly recommend "Once in a Lifetime: The Extraordinary Story of the New York Cosmos." It's one of the best football documentaries out there.

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +5

      I'd love to see it as an MLS fan.

    • @jaquandrejones
      @jaquandrejones 4 роки тому +1

      @@3dsaulgoodman43 you don't deserve the sport of soccer if you're a MLS fan. Read up about how your only value as a fan is the TV rights for the national team. The same governing body sells the TV rights for the national team and MLS but if you want the national team you gotta buy the MLS rights too. That's the only reason your league exists. Oh and to line pockets with expansion fees.

    • @BruhMoment-tb8qm
      @BruhMoment-tb8qm 4 роки тому +13

      @@jaquandrejones uhhh ok

    • @chim6090
      @chim6090 4 роки тому +3

      I was just going to comment this, it’s brilliant!

    • @timeshareproductions3695
      @timeshareproductions3695 4 роки тому +2

      Seen it very good. I vouch for him it legit.

  • @thevirtualjonathan1284
    @thevirtualjonathan1284 4 роки тому +18

    No one is rating these videos. Perhaps people mean "undervalued" and "under viewed". But "underrated" just doesn't apply.
    I agree these videos are really good and a nice change of pace from the lists.
    I hope alfie gets enough financial help to be able to work on more projects of love and interest.
    Great video.

  • @dangerclose6303
    @dangerclose6303 4 роки тому +15

    We‘re the Rambling Rogues of Memphis! The biggest Kick in Town! God I loved going to their games as a boy!

  • @roboticalJ
    @roboticalJ 4 роки тому +17

    These videos are CRIMINALLY underrated

  • @3dsaulgoodman43
    @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +44

    Love these US Soccer videos! Very interesting, and is basically a middle finger to the Eurosnobs. Maybe one on Australian Soccer in the future?

    • @robbiebalboa
      @robbiebalboa 4 роки тому +11

      the transition from NSL to the A-League. The old Migrant community clubs making way for gimmick clubs. pretty much MLS’s not as famous and poorer cousin.

    • @jake-mn2ns
      @jake-mn2ns 4 роки тому +7

      as an american, seeing the parallels between american and australian soccer is very interesting so i would love this

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 4 роки тому +1

      Eurosnobs? to quote Rafa Marquez, "that is where the good football is". Even the best US players at the moment are all at European clubs, even sold from European clubs. Introduce relegation and promotion, and we'll talk.

    • @toritwopointoh
      @toritwopointoh 4 роки тому +1

      jake domínguez the parallels between Australia and America don't stop at soccer/football, the two countries are extremely similar

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +7

      @@SantomPh What I mean by Eurosnobs are people who insult US Soccer for absolutely no reason despite it's recent growth and successes.

  • @ivaneurope
    @ivaneurope 4 роки тому +5

    The reason why NASL received so little media coverage can be traced to the fact that some other sports had 2 competing leagues like the NBA vs. ABA in basketball and NHL vs. WHA in hockey. Not to mention the NFL, MLB and college sports are also in the mix. Even though the MLS is making progress nowdays, its viewing figures are peanuts compared to the NBA and especially NFL with European leagues such as the Premier League have better ratings (duh) despite the time zone issues.

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому

      The old NASL was MUCH MUCH more popular and respected than today's crappy MLS and had WAY HIGHER TV ratings. MLS is a failure by comparison.

  • @3dsaulgoodman43
    @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +40

    DannyTRadio, an MLS UA-camr made a video on why the NASL failed. I seriously recommend his channel to those that want to learn more about the MLS. He's an extremely underrated UA-camr.

    • @cactitiger
      @cactitiger 4 роки тому +1

      I love that channel. So great for Mls content.

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending 4 роки тому +6

      YES I love DannyTRadio's videos, I wish there were more MLS creators because it'd do so much for the league

    • @danielleeskelton
      @danielleeskelton 4 роки тому +5

      I agree. His channel is good whether you watch the MLS are just want to learn more about it.

    • @joshuasimmons8160
      @joshuasimmons8160 4 роки тому +1

      I love that guys channel. I wish he would post more often

  • @1anonymousb
    @1anonymousb 4 роки тому +13

    I kinda like the "shootout" that the NASL and early days MLS more than penalties too. I didn't like that they were used to settle draws though. A somewhat interesting fact about the American sports landscape back in and around the '20s is that NFL football wasn't popular at all. It didn't become popular until heavy marketing was thrown at it sometime mid century. Of course, baseball was already entrenched. Football/soccer in America had every chance to be the dominant sport, but mismanagement doomed the leagues. Balkanized leagues and bringing in almost exclusively foreign players allowed other leagues to paint soccer as a "foreign" sport and thus influence Americans to prefer our homegrown ones instead. What a shame. We could possibly have a few World Cup titles by now. I guess the bright side is I get to watch the sport and league(s) grow here in my lifetime.

    • @HeroYMR
      @HeroYMR 3 роки тому +1

      Am i right in saying theres no promotions and relagations in your soccer league? As a brit i feel if use adopted this model it would only improve your game. Thats what makes football so exciting. Theres nothing more exciting than a last day promotion win and in the same breath nothing as devastating as geting relagated.

    • @lukepitts8529
      @lukepitts8529 3 роки тому +1

      @@HeroYMR you're correct, and i agree that it would benefit us

    • @mrepix8287
      @mrepix8287 3 роки тому

      @@HeroYMR Promotion abs relegation would be utterly disastrous in such a new league with a smattering of franchises only a few years old

    • @RumRayven
      @RumRayven 3 роки тому +2

      @@HeroYMR People who advocate Pro/Rel don't consider how closed leagues work with franchises. You have to pay into the league to get a franchise and you are subject to a salary cap for players and a end of season draft for parity. Since the clubs are a franchise of the league they aren't as individually run as European soccer clubs who are able to take them and compete in pan national competitions. Which is not the case for closed league teams as they are only competing for the franchise championship. There's nothing inherently wrong with either system but trying to switch to pro rel would tank a lot of teams into financial oblivion, leaving small markets in the US without professional teams.

    • @LordZontar
      @LordZontar 2 роки тому

      A word here: "A somewhat interesting fact about the American sports landscape back in and around the '20s is that NFL football wasn't popular at all."
      NFL football did slowly, steadily grow in popularity through the mid-late 1930s and after World War II but for years still wasn't anywhere near as popular as college football which was far more extensively established, and it wasn't until the 1960s when professional American football was finally being grudgingly considered equal to the college game in athletic proficiency. Network television picking up on the NFL and the rise of the AFL in that crucial period tipped the balance. But who knows what would have happened if the American Soccer League had managed to survive the Great Depression and grow following World War II. You might never have heard of the NFL today or it would be about on the same level as the NHL instead of the bloated marquee sports-entertainment it is today. The whole American sports landscape would be quite different as basketball might never have become so popular either in an environment dominated by baseball, college gridiron football and soccer/football.

  • @micshork
    @micshork 3 роки тому +4

    I kinda wish that MLS had nicknames like the NASL did, in MLS most teams are just called clubs, when NASL had the Spurs, the Cosmos, the Rowdies, the Sting and more.
    One thing NASL does have over MLS is that NASL got a video game in 1979 for the Intellivision.

  • @LoonaVanza
    @LoonaVanza 4 роки тому +19

    All time Premier League 11 vs All time La Liga 11
    And same could be done for other Leagues
    SeriesA, League1 and Bundisliga

    • @abhaagrawal5780
      @abhaagrawal5780 4 роки тому +1

      Also Considering players who played in English top flight before the creation of premier league in 1992, here is my all pl vs la liga XI-
      ENGLISH league-
      Gordon Banks
      G.Neville Bobby Moore John Charles Ashley Cole
      Roy Keane
      Bobby charlton Tom finny
      Stanley Matthews George Best
      Henry
      This as far as I know.
      La liga is better.
      End of story.

    • @sanathkadalayil6890
      @sanathkadalayil6890 4 роки тому

      Ligue 1*

    • @elliotabrahams8673
      @elliotabrahams8673 4 роки тому

      All time PL (1992-) XI looks something like
      Cech
      G. Neville
      Terry
      Vidic
      A. Cole
      Vieira
      Keane
      Henry
      Lampard
      Bergkamp
      Shearer
      All time La Liga XI looks like
      Casillas
      Alves
      Ramos
      Koeman or Puyol
      Roberto Carlos
      Hierro
      Xavi
      Iniesta
      Di Stefano
      Messi
      Ronaldo

  • @Pingthescribe
    @Pingthescribe 4 роки тому +5

    Holy shit, totally missed this when it came out! Thanks for covering the NASL! I'm almost certain the NASL is presented in uni courses as a way to show how one DOESN'T run a sports league!
    Edit: now that I've finished it, I should say that one thing you only touched on was that the NASL was spending money on an indoor league each winter, which was money they could have been spending on the outdoor league.

  • @eligriffen3422
    @eligriffen3422 4 роки тому +5

    Everyone who sees this, have an amazing day, and I hope you are well.

  • @aishikpanja3931
    @aishikpanja3931 4 роки тому +11

    make a video on the problems in indian football. i can link you to local journalists here

  • @NathanChwalik
    @NathanChwalik 4 роки тому +5

    US Soccer is still a mess, and the soccer wars are as relevant as ever.
    I'm working on starting a grassroots club (Delaware Rising FC) in my local city to help players in my area.

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +4

      Nice to see you're trying to make soccer a better sport in the US. Hope you succeed in the state of Joe Biden. If I'm not wrong, was Delaware was the first every US state.

    • @NathanChwalik
      @NathanChwalik 4 роки тому

      @@3dsaulgoodman43 Thanks, I appreciate the wishes. I probably should've referenced that Delaware is also a small city in Ohio. Cool fact nonetheless!

    • @leonardotavaresdardenne9955
      @leonardotavaresdardenne9955 3 роки тому

      To sound like an arrogant foreigner, my tip would be to avoid the corny baseball-esque club names...

  • @danielmurphy8262
    @danielmurphy8262 4 роки тому +9

    Love videos like this! Would love to see a similar one on the League of Ireland and its state (or even Irish football as a whole with the FAI). You dont talk enough about the #GreatestLeagueintheWorld

    • @Zoltanlouis2009
      @Zoltanlouis2009 3 роки тому +1

      The origins of the all Ireland league and the split would make an interesting video. Cliftonville are the oldest club on the island of Ireland who of course play in the North, that's in the Irish Premiership rather than the Irish Premier League which is in the South (nothing confusing about that then!)
      The (original - pre-parition) Irish FA still is the governing body up north, rather than the FA of Ireland which governs the game in the republic.
      Now of course there have been rumblings about the formation of an All-Island League being debated, and supported by a lot of the bigger clubs in the North, despite there being less places for the IFA affiliated teams.
      Football on the island of Ireland would be an interesting video in the making!

  • @benjamineckford1718
    @benjamineckford1718 4 роки тому +4

    You should have mentioned Dennis Tueart. A star for Man City and an England international, he signed for the Cosmos when he was only 28. They signed him to replace Pele, that’s how good he was

  • @stephenwodz7593
    @stephenwodz7593 3 роки тому +3

    Remember, it was the NORTH American Soccer League. There were many Canadian teams in the league, and they won a couple of Soccer Bowls.

  • @JaviFuego93
    @JaviFuego93 4 роки тому +8

    Make a video on the Australian league I’m from the US but their league seems to me to be more similar to MLS than soccer in the rest of the world. From team names to them I believe also having a salary cap and DPs

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 4 роки тому +2

      they are in a similar situation to the US, so it makes sense. Cities spread apart on a continent, competition from native sportslike AFL and other sports like tennis, cricket and rugby. They also have a collective bargaining agreement as well as a team from outside the country competing (Wellington from NZ). There is also no relegation and promotion and the Aussie tradition of the wooden spoon is practiced instead (like a boobie award).
      The only real difference is that the A League doesn't have a major college network to recruit young talent, who usually sign on as teenagers and train within a club's youth system like in the UK.

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +1

      @@SantomPh Is the A-League more city influenced like the AFL(where a.hige chunk of clubs are around Melbourne) and NRL(where a huge chunk of clubs are around Sydney).

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому

      A-League is at least 10-20 years ahead of MLS in quality and player development. Imagine if Australia had the US's population - they'd win multiple WC's and be on par w/ France.

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому

      @@SantomPh Australia has a more developed soccer culture than the US. Also there is no pro/rel btwn A-League and lower divs. but there are plans for it. Unlike the US, AUS has a real pyramid below the A-League w/ traditional pro/rel.

    • @Rikenm14
      @Rikenm14 4 роки тому +2

      @@LeeGeorge08 A-league is 10 years behind MLS. the next phase of the A-league is to have their own stadiums.

  • @alegori2295
    @alegori2295 4 роки тому +4

    I've got a suggestion for another football loving nation documentary "Indonesia", it's got a very weird history from world cup, unrealistic bids, corruption, two football associations, the galatama (model for the first j league), some stars there (kempes and Roger Milla), voodoo magic, clubs being runned to the ground, hooliganism, and many more

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +3

      In Malaysia we tend to stereotype Indonesian football fans as hooligans. Tak apa lah. Kita masih suka bola kan?

  • @69JMAN420
    @69JMAN420 4 роки тому +4

    Day 2 of asking for the best footballer for each of the top 50 most common first names

  • @insertgenericusernamehere2402
    @insertgenericusernamehere2402 4 роки тому +3

    Recommended video.
    The Best Team in the English leagues made up of former players that are now managers.
    For example. Lampard and Oli

  • @goattm2
    @goattm2 4 роки тому +5

    Interesting fact, Phil Woosnam who started up NASL was related to the Welsh golfing legend Ian Woosnam.

  • @charlestruppi7793
    @charlestruppi7793 Рік тому +1

    Way late on this, but the issue with all these efforts to increase scoring and eliminate ties was completely wasted. The die hard American sports fans (many of which who were very anti-soccer at the time) couldn’t care less if the games ended 0-0 or 5-4. I went to a Cosmos game in the early 80s with a neighbor (who had some interest in soccer) and his very traditional sports American dad. I remember the Cosmos won the game 5-3 and the Dad said he was bored out of his mind after the game. On the way home he had on the radio the Yankees baseball game which ended 2-1 or something and he made a comment like “now that’s a great sport”. There was nothing any soccer league could do to win these guys over.
    The 35 yard line was also terrible. It literally eliminated all midfield play and games were like basketball - get the ball to the attacking third, finish the play and the other team comes down the field to their attacking third. All intricate tactics, movement, etc were eliminated, again to try and win over people that couldn’t care less. I went to see Cosmos play Anderlecht in the early 80s with some friends whose only exposure to soccer was typical NASL games. Because it was a game against a Euro club, no 35 yard line. My friends were amazed at the speed of play, the intricate passing through MF and Anderlecht’s very aggressive and coordinated off side trap. They couldn’t believe this was the same sport as they were used to seeing in NASL. The Cosmos played them toe to toe and the game finished like 2-1 or something. Had NASL allowed soccer to move forward like this, I bet more people would have become fans, as they have being exposed to EPL, ECL, World Cup, etc the last 10-15 years. Soccer is the “beautiful game” and NASL lacked the confident and vision to believe that Americans would appreciate the sport as it’s played all over the world.

  • @CheekandBluster
    @CheekandBluster 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for saying so, Alfie -- and indeed you're right, the NASL 35-yard/5 second penalty try WAS better than the 12-yard spot kick. It's a shame it didn't catch on in other leagues.

  • @sbongadlamini388
    @sbongadlamini388 4 роки тому +3

    During apartheid South Africa when most European leagues banned South African football players most of the best players went to America...I can name Ace Ntsoelengoe ( inducted in American Sports Hall of Fame), Vusi 'Computer' Lamola and Jomo Sono to name a few
    *Ace Ntsoelengoe was probably one of the best players in the world in the 1970s to early 80s( not exaggerating look him up), too bad Europe never got to see his greatness

  • @spencerharding4287
    @spencerharding4287 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the excellent videos about the USA lately

  • @sebastianaraque354
    @sebastianaraque354 3 роки тому +2

    Do a MLS documentary

  • @ruthsingleton7753
    @ruthsingleton7753 3 роки тому +2

    if it wasnt for Pele, i would never have loved the game

  • @espben360
    @espben360 4 роки тому +1

    NASL problems Sounds bit like What some English championship teams, and definitely league 1 and league 2 teams face.

  • @jonnymiller1
    @jonnymiller1 Рік тому +1

    A documentary about Giogio Chinaglia would be very interesting given his journey from Italy to USA then his post playing legal issues and premature death.

  • @SuperSirianRigel
    @SuperSirianRigel 4 роки тому +2

    I love your USA videos! Keep them coming! :D

  • @CrozzymodoYT
    @CrozzymodoYT 4 роки тому +2

    Dont mind me just gonna wait here until the Team America Soccer video comes out

  • @LeeGeorge08
    @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому +1

    Back in the late 70's or early 80's the NASL should've had pro/rel w/ the ASL 2.0 and both leagues could've been saved. Then form regional amateur leagues below and we'd have a fully developed American soccer pyramid today and the USMNT wouldn't be worse than tiny Caribbean islands of semi-pro teams. After 25 years of MLS the US soccer situation is worse than 1994. FIFA needs to take the 2026 WC away from the US and PERMANENTLY ban them until pro/rel is implemented.

    • @cactitiger
      @cactitiger 3 роки тому

      Pro rel wouldn’t have saved the league. Also why should the USA be banned just because their domestic league doesn’t have pro rel?

  • @oscarbaruch1
    @oscarbaruch1 4 роки тому +3

    Love these videos from you I learn so much and they’re a nice distraction during my morning workouts 😎

  • @dragonmark9092
    @dragonmark9092 4 роки тому +2

    I loved the 35 yard (I think) penalties, a lot of people don't realize how difficult and intense that is. Now its more about how well the attacker can put away a penalty with a keeper given ample amount of prep time.

  • @javiermoreno5898
    @javiermoreno5898 4 роки тому +1

    For the unitial fact of the league being the second most popular, the NFL did not exist in the Early 1900’s until the 1920s, college football was a thing but nothing impressive. The 35-yardline hand-to-hand penalties were sick, and nowadays would be more nailbiting, the clock, the players, man that would be awesome if it returned sometime

  • @peterdraper2611
    @peterdraper2611 3 роки тому +1

    make a video on the problems in indian football. i can link you to local journalists here

  • @damianpriday8194
    @damianpriday8194 4 роки тому +2

    Greetings! From the founder of the founder of the (Amateur) modern version of the Boston Rovers!

  • @helixgaming-gamingvlogskin6630
    @helixgaming-gamingvlogskin6630 4 роки тому +2

    Keep coming out with USA stuff I’m a American and love it. (RedBulls fan if u wanna hook me up lol)

    • @3dsaulgoodman43
      @3dsaulgoodman43 4 роки тому +1

      Do you admit that you're club is actually in New Jersey and not in New York?

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому

      @@3dsaulgoodman43 Also RBNY isn't a club, it's a McFranchise of soulless corporate MLS fake league.

  • @robertperrella4194
    @robertperrella4194 4 роки тому +1

    i like that comment"THE NASL WAS A GLORIOUS FAILURE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1,,,,BRILLIANT research by HITC Sevens!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @eeeeewewew
    @eeeeewewew 4 роки тому +2

    Jesus that video about the age of players in America was 3 years ago? Keep it up Alfie. Long time subscriber

  • @johncquiroz
    @johncquiroz 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this! Not much is talked about the first national American football league

  • @fhlostonparaphrase
    @fhlostonparaphrase 4 роки тому +1

    I can't get over how awful those numbers at the front of the shirt looks, hideous!

  • @mkar01
    @mkar01 2 роки тому +1

    one could only imagine what the football landscape in the united states would look like today if the afl had somehow survived through the great depression… teams with nearly a hundred years of history and the sport probably would be the most popular in the country

  • @InlandEmpiresoccer909
    @InlandEmpiresoccer909 4 роки тому +1

    Fun fact in a corner kick the ref will tell the player to hold on for a good couple of minutes for CBS to play commercials. Awkward if you’re in attendance and not know what’s happening

  • @ottmarmontes
    @ottmarmontes 4 роки тому +1

    When I was in highschool soccer games didn't go to penalties during playoffs and instead they copied the system in the NASL.

  • @DaniMrtini
    @DaniMrtini 4 роки тому +1

    You're not American? I would have never imagined

  • @owenschneider6432
    @owenschneider6432 4 роки тому +2

    Love the American theme videos and the documentary style videos so a combo is great

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 3 роки тому +1

    But could Stoke City do it on a cold rainy night in Cleveland? That's what I want to know.

  • @mustaqiimmustaqiim6354
    @mustaqiimmustaqiim6354 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video mannn.....Rise of the USL mabye?

  • @johnnylama7803
    @johnnylama7803 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you Alfie you are the best 😊💐💖

  • @archstanton6102
    @archstanton6102 4 роки тому +2

    Escape to Victory XI where are they now?

  • @briankoelbel1362
    @briankoelbel1362 4 роки тому +1

    Great NASL video, a magical time for those of us lucky enough to "live it!" One fact check tho....the 1978 Soccer Bowl at Giants Stadium did indeed draw 74,901 fans. The record, though, occurred on August 16, 1977. For the Cosmos v Strikers playoff game, the total was 77,691. Stadium capacity was 75,646, but the pre-sales levels were so large that the NJSEA (New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority) allowed for standing room only sales. So you're probably asking what kind of nerd would know that? I worked in the ticket office for the team, and had to reconcile every ticket and stub (yes, actual paper tickets) so I could watch the second half of the game! Keep up the great videos!

  • @LuisMartinez-cd6uo
    @LuisMartinez-cd6uo 4 роки тому +1

    Where are 2011 U-17 World Cup Champions Mexico's players now?

  • @Rikenm14
    @Rikenm14 4 роки тому +1

    You forgot to mention why only soccer died due to the Great Depression. It was because most of these clubs were based on factories/mills which had European immigrants/workers playing the game. These mills/factories got shut down when the Great Depression hit. Literally all clubs died. Baseball did not have this association with factories which meant it survived.

    • @benardboateng8291
      @benardboateng8291 2 роки тому

      If that's true then for me that's a wtf moment right there

  • @matthewkeefe1377
    @matthewkeefe1377 4 роки тому +1

    Also, many of the NASL stadiums had 1970s-era artificial turf, which was probably an adjustment for players used to regular grass pitches.

  • @bfdcitybullsjosh6797
    @bfdcitybullsjosh6797 4 роки тому +1

    7 players who could of turned proffesional in another sport ?

  • @jamesdeegan211
    @jamesdeegan211 4 роки тому +1

    I have been subscribed for more than 3 years🤘

  • @marcusgotti8231
    @marcusgotti8231 4 роки тому +2

    Great video as usual Alfie! You always choose really interesting topics

  • @mrsomeone846
    @mrsomeone846 4 роки тому +4

    How about doing a vid on Mexico’s national team. In theory they should be beasts, huge population, football’s their most popular sport...
    If countries like Chile and Colombia can produce some class players I don’t see why Mexico can’t. Their last truly world class player was Raphael Marquez.

    • @thevirtualjonathan1284
      @thevirtualjonathan1284 4 роки тому

      I'd bet, without any research, that organized crime and corruption have a lot to do with it.

    • @mrsomeone846
      @mrsomeone846 4 роки тому

      The Virtual Jonathan
      That doesn’t seem to hold Brazil back.

  • @YeOldeFootballChannel
    @YeOldeFootballChannel 4 роки тому +1

    The only "positive" of the NASL was that Canada, who had some teams there (Vancouver, who won the Soccer Bowl, Montreal or Toronto) had a decent number of good players and they qualified for the World Cup in 1986. The likes of Lenarduzzi, Tino Lettieri or Bruce Wilson were playing at the tail end of the league and helped the Canucks to enter the World Cup ahead of other super-powers such as Honduras.

    • @cactitiger
      @cactitiger 3 роки тому

      Another positive is that if it wasn’t for the NASL the mls probably would’ve failed

  • @ipodzrock1
    @ipodzrock1 4 роки тому +2

    Much love from the US! Americans love actual football as well

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому

      We want real soccer/football but everyone hates MLS. That garbage league GOTTA GO! Way past time.

    • @cactitiger
      @cactitiger 3 роки тому

      Most Americans are fine with the mls

  • @westheking12
    @westheking12 3 роки тому +1

    The American soccer league in the 20s if it continued would've been one of the top leagues in the world today. We had great players in that league, Europeans do not give America any credit for the sport. They think we are just now getting into it when we had interest in it since the 1920s. And even then we called it football and the league was more popular then the NFL only behind MLB, just insane to think what could've been. Now we do have a solid more organized league in the MLS. But we will be low tier quality wise until the higher ups of MLS allow clubs to spend more on better talent and keep the young talented players. We are clearly improving on quality every year. And it is no longer easy to become a star player, but it won't be for years until we are up there with the European leagues if we don't allow spending. We have the infrastructure and quality of life that can get good players to come here, but limited spending is the biggest obstacle I see right now.

    • @jayh3283
      @jayh3283 3 роки тому

      Being a league in CONCACAF will be the thing to hold MLS back in the end. No league outside of UEFA and CONMEBOL (before they fell from grace) has reached elite status or even top 10. Regardless of the salary cap, MLS may only reach the heights and quality of Liga MX because MLS has nothing to offer top young talent while in CONCACAF. MLS can have the highest attendance in the world or even the richest, but they won't have the prestige that comes with being in an elite FIFA Confederation that to make them widely respected. The prestige is what increases a player's value when performing well and Europe is also paying players hundreds of millions to billions of Euros (which is worth more than the American dollar).

    • @westheking12
      @westheking12 3 роки тому +1

      @@jayh3283 I disagree, it is very possible to become a top league. And I think the MLS will be better then Liga MX in the future. Their players are already choosing the MLS over Liga MX. Yeah Europe has the "Prestige" but so is the Libertadores even tho the clubs are not to the level it was when say Pele was playing. It's all about if the continent and the leagues want to become better and make their own way. As long as the fans of that continent grow to care, the rest of the world will have to follow suit.

  • @robertcabrera6232
    @robertcabrera6232 3 роки тому +1

    As a kid growing up in the 1970s in South Florida we were blessed in having a dominant American football team (the Dolphins appeared in 3 straight Super Bowls and going one season undefeated), and having the Miami Gatos (which became the Fort Lauderdale Strikers) of the NASL. Tickets for Dolphins games were mostly unobtainable and ridiculously expensive, while Gatos/Strikers games were affordable and plentiful. I saw at least a dozen games between them and the Cosmos, and arch rivals the Tampa Bay Rowdies, which always seemed to be in the way of the Strikers achieving greatness. There was one heartbreaking season I vividly remember when the Strikers had the best record in the league, only to lose to the Rowdies in the playoffs. Unfortunately, the league ultimately met the same demise as the upstart WFL and USFL (American football leagues) in that they over paid for talent hoping to capture the imagination of the public, but went bankrupt in the process.

  • @archstanton6102
    @archstanton6102 4 роки тому +2

    When MLS started in 96 they had dribbling shootouts over penalties.
    It was nuts as you had to score by 5 seconds. So ball had to cross goal line. Not even be in the air travelling towards the goal

    • @davidw860
      @davidw860 4 роки тому

      That's why it failed I think. Too much controversy over timing. Maybe VAR would save it now, but it was just ridiculous to have a ball cross the line in 6 seconds and have it called back. I did like the premise though. I am happier with ties now honestly because I grew sick of the cluster that OT was. I'd rather go home with a point than wait another hour in the rain on a Thursday night over a largely meaningless game to be decided by a bad ref call.

    • @sdeepj
      @sdeepj 3 роки тому

      At the time FIFA was exploring rule changes, they saw MLS would be a guinea pig to try out these ideas

  • @CMunsk
    @CMunsk 4 роки тому +1

    You should do a video on the Philadelphia Union! It is a great case study in showing what happens when you don't have a plan (the first couple years) and when you do have a plan and stick to a system and make savvy moneyball signings mixed with youth development (now). They have a fantastic academy you can touch on as a part of their slow build success

  • @maromano5675
    @maromano5675 4 роки тому +1

    The shootouts! I once saw a friendly between juventus and idontrememberwho that finished in draw and was resolved via shootout, I remember Salas embarrassing himself.

  • @beyondthepage9389
    @beyondthepage9389 4 роки тому +1

    I've always thought the five second shoot out was a great idea and I'm not sure I know to many people that don't. Like you say, it a much better test of skill and ability and a much better spectacle for fans.

  • @100percentSNAFU
    @100percentSNAFU 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly, I have to credit the NASL for my interest in the sport at a young age, as well as going on to play for many years. It was quite big still in the United States in the early 80's when I was just starting out on my first youth team at 6 years old. In fact, many of our youth league team names were names from the NASL, like Cosmos, Rowdies, Strikers, Aztecs, etc.

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 3 роки тому

    Before I start, lets get one thing striahgt ... The "s" word comes's from the 19th cenuary when the English Upper Class ran/admisistrated Association Football. They liked to shorten or nick-name words ... they did the same with Rubgy ... calling it "Raggah" ... so to shorten Association Football they said "soccer" so that proves the word is NOT official as The World Name for Our World Game is FOOTBALL ... Fact!.
    As a kid in the 1970s I remember the n.a.s.l. we got video updates on I.T.V.s World of Sport's On The Ball football review. The downfall of that set up, was the lack of foundation or infrastructure in the establishment of having a pathway of coaching - clubs to join and a National programme (In stark contrast to The Womens Game in the U.S.)
    They set up teams franchises (Not Football Clubs) without any Back up structure.
    in regard to what you said about A Grave Yard of Spent Footballers ... That was Very True as you were a very young fooballer getting experience or an below standard lower division footballer trying to make some money or a 30s plus footballer On your Way Out!.
    What you said about some of The Rasamatas of what they did then is very true ... We "us in our home countries and Main Land Europe" laughed at them! a prime example was when England played Team America in the U.S. in 1976 ... the match was not recognised by F.I.F.A.
    From my perspective then I laughed as well ... however in my teens onwords I have wanted North America (The U.S. & Canada) to grow and prosper in our World Game of FOOTBALL.

  • @iBhacaBeats
    @iBhacaBeats 3 роки тому +1

    Proud to say that the owner of Kaizer Chiefs FC, Kaizer Motaung, played with Pele at Atlanta. He was also a magician with his feet.

  • @iBhacaBeats
    @iBhacaBeats 3 роки тому

    We must also remember that all US production companies don't or never had soccer movies. They have baseball, basket ball, car racing, horses, hockey, American football but never have soccer. All these sports are famous outside AMERICA through hollywood. They probably can't shoot soccer coz doesn't only need a good actor, it needs a good soccer player or a stunt double who's very good with soccer.
    The only time you see soccer in movies is when the father is taking his daughter or son for soccer day. Its never taken serious. Whats funny is that it regarded a dangerous sport, more dangerous than american football, ice hockey, rally racing and nascar.

  • @paulutd69
    @paulutd69 Рік тому

    American Soccer League. Bob Cousy of Celtic lore was the Commissioner.

  • @sonataonmymind
    @sonataonmymind 9 місяців тому

    Regarding the issue of the age of the players, at the end of Warner's period with the Cosmos they began to take even young promises there. Romerito played for Cosmos before going to Fluminese and becoming Brazilian champion, before going to Barcelona too.

  • @michaelmaguire8132
    @michaelmaguire8132 4 роки тому +1

    7 best footballers playing in premier league 2 division 1 and 2 (ones you haven't made a premier league appearance ) e.g shanbia wolves,

  • @benhaney9629
    @benhaney9629 3 роки тому +1

    I love the Simpsons episode where they go to a soccer game...
    “And ties, ties, ties!”
    “He holds it! Holds it! HOLDS IT!”

    • @GorgeDawes
      @GorgeDawes 3 роки тому

      “Open wide for some SOCCAAAAH!”
      That episode came out about 15 years after the high point of the NASL so it’s quite possible that the writers were influenced by it.
      If I remember correctly there’s a pretty savage jab at Pelé and his fondness for a bag of cash.
      The whole soccer match is the set-up for what is my favourite ever Simpsons episode, the name of the gun shop where Homer goes to buy his handgun is in my view the funniest ever Simpsons sight-gag.

    • @eggy6745
      @eggy6745 2 роки тому

      @@GorgeDawes the fact that Willie turns round and shouts "we'll show them a real soccer riot" shows that they may know about a certain incident that took place in the 1980 scottish cup final

  • @brianwalsh9958
    @brianwalsh9958 3 роки тому +1

    This video was absolutely fantastic, I love all of your American videos because it’s a league I definitely want to get into but I really know very little about it. I like Orlando because of kaka and the purple shirt but other than that I’ve never really looked into the whole set up of it. I’m Irish and would love to watch some videos about the history of Irish soccer, Bobby charlton played for waterford united, Sam allardyce started his managerial career in Limerick etc could be very interesting

    • @cactitiger
      @cactitiger 3 роки тому

      Unique is the best way to describe it

  • @adamtondowsky6953
    @adamtondowsky6953 2 роки тому

    Re: soccer is the 3rd most watched sport in America. Yes, but European soccer, not MLS.

  • @patoren3gou653
    @patoren3gou653 Рік тому

    I have a feeling that if they hadn't been bought by RedBull, the Metrostars would have dug up and revived the cosmos name around the same time as the Sounders and Timbers made their MLS debuts

  • @jackkelesoglu9640
    @jackkelesoglu9640 4 роки тому +2

    Those old hockey style penalties are so cool to watch. They also used them in the early years if he MLS. They were the perfect example of Americanizing the sport to become more enticing to the American public without being too sacrilegious and making a novelty out of the sport

    • @diezgp
      @diezgp 3 роки тому

      It's actually quite sacrilegious for anyone that likes football.

    • @clemenx
      @clemenx Рік тому

      @@diezgp Not really. Plenty of us futbol fans have hated penalties forever and it is honestly a travesty that 2 world cups have gotten decided by them. Any attempt at improving them is welcome in my book.

    • @diezgp
      @diezgp Рік тому

      @@clemenx The MLS penalties are cool, but most football fans are quite traditional. There's a reason this sport doesn't change its rules too much in ~150 years. Even if it goes against the entertainment and fun.
      You'll see many more classic penalty shootouts in your lifetime.
      Besides that, everybody liked what happened in the last final of the world cup. It was quite exciting what Dibu Martínez did.

  • @KipGuitar1
    @KipGuitar1 Рік тому +1

    Some of those clubs still exists in mls

  • @darshanbhatt4676
    @darshanbhatt4676 4 роки тому +2

    Looking at this history, I have some hope for indian super league now.

    • @LeeGeorge08
      @LeeGeorge08 4 роки тому +1

      You should be hopeful since India has gotten more things right about soccer/football than the US. I see China and India both passing the US soon.

    • @ryanjohnson6272
      @ryanjohnson6272 3 роки тому

      @@LeeGeorge08 wtf are you smoking lol

  • @fadingaway...
    @fadingaway... 4 роки тому +1

    these kind of videos are the best ones you work on. Good job once again.

  • @DoublDD2000
    @DoublDD2000 4 роки тому +1

    Quality video Alfie, thoroughly enjoyed that one

  • @prisang0417
    @prisang0417 4 роки тому +1

    Video on footballers that almost transferred to a big team seven years ago and where they end up today

  • @trbd
    @trbd 3 роки тому

    I also liked how they name their teams. Too bad they just copy the europeans these days

  • @kevinfield5930
    @kevinfield5930 4 роки тому +1

    loving the USA football videos

  • @giancarlotorres3520
    @giancarlotorres3520 4 роки тому +1

    The penalty shootouts are so much fun!

  • @kolovgygorchik9557
    @kolovgygorchik9557 3 роки тому +1

    Do a video on New Mexico United.

  • @TheCdecisneros
    @TheCdecisneros 4 роки тому +1

    The blood of the nasl fueled the national team and mla.