I can't wait to see how many... erm, less scrupulous UA-camrs will prance about and proclaim that this is the greatest thing since the last great thing. Thanks Ashens for setting the record straight and do enjoy that Carlsberg... edit: or Sprite, not sure either way
I don't get why neo geo fans aren't more outraged than Nintendo fans. Neogeo is clearly taking the piss with their fans. They overpriced cheap products for years now. That's why I'm not a neogeo fan. I bought the first wave of neogeo mini to play a few games, I knew that they were full of anti customer CEOs so I never bothered to collect for them.
That's gotta be a sprite can, there's some yellow on it. I can't help think it'd have been easier to move it and or refilm than blur the damned thing though
@@Openreality Cuz Neo Geo fans are generally a more niche group and thus tend to know a bit more and will not go for something like this. We're not stupid. Nintendo fans are people who go absolutely mental at anything whereas Neo Geo fans are mostly adults who are able to go "yeah, this isn't worth it" and then move on with their fucking life.
“It gets many things right but sadly for the money it just ain’t good enough” I feel like that sums up pretty much all the Neo Geo stuff you have reviewed. It’s always got decent to good emulation and an ok selection of games but there’s always one thing that ruins it and the price is always too high
Here's a guess for the vertical scanlines: The emulator visual settings were designed with included options for vertically scrolling shooter games as well, which often had the built in monitor rotated 90°, so would have had vertical scanlines. The units the emulator would be used with likely wouldn't have a monitor that was mounted that way, they'd just rotate the image and not use the full screen. No clue about the 40° option... Would that have been relevant to any cabinet design, like one that used a mirror?
I had my suspicions it was something to do with that too. I suppose in theory that if you're building a custom-designed machine (which arcade machines are) there's no reason you couldn't control a CRT monitor in "portrait" orientation to scan at 90 degrees, so it was still "horizontal". Of course, you'd have to have the display chips output the display in that order as well. Whether there would be any benefit to that- let alone if it would be worth the hassle- and if anyone ever actually did it... I've no idea! If- as I suspect- at least some parts were off the shelf, they might be designed to assume horizontal scanning was in use, and fiddly to make work differently or replace(??)
@@NotATube I don't think anyone would really have cared about having the scanlines going one way or another, and components for 4:3 screens accepting signals in the normal orientation would have been plentiful and mature, can't really think of a reason to try and buck that trend for the small use case of arcade cabinets (I guess possible differences in text rendering could have been a reason, if desperate enough?). If you can use the exact same components and just change the mounting of the display, I'd probably end up with the same decision.
@@NotATube And while arcade machines are always somewhat custom, there were some standards. You might know of these, but for the benefit of anyone reading through these comments later who might not: Relevant to this discussion, Japan Amusement Machine and Marketing Association came up with the JAMMA Video Standard in 1996, so with the same cabinet you could slap in any JAMMA compatible game motherboard. Haven't looked into whether JAMMA compatible vertically scrolling games were prevalent, but say you have a few cabinets specifically for vertically scrolling shmups along with the normal ones, it would be an enticing option for the arcade manager to be able to just swap out the marquee and the board to update their game selection.
bad controls on a SNK system are weird. If there is any Games company known for no-compromise hardware, it's SNK. You bought the entire arcade board for your NeoGeo from them back in the day. that's why they were so extremely expensive. To see quality like this on any SNK machine is kinda really sad
In case anyone is wondering about the blurred can, it's actually because of the UK's rules on product placement. In America there are normally sponsors where you see products in the backgrounds with their logos visible, or use to drive the plot (See the Hawaii Five-o Subway scene, which I believe got banned in the UK.), over here it's against the rules to subtly promote stuff, you must make it clear if you are being sponsored by a product, which is why when American reality shows come over to the UK, you'll see T-Shirts and Coke cups blurred out almost all the time. And with UK shows, any products seen in the background are mainly turned around so that you just see labels and stuff (Although that is becoming a bit more lax here and there, if you see a faint "P" in the corner of the opening, that means there will be some product placement in the program.) So why's Stuart blurring a Sprite Can? Because believe it or not, UK internet personalities are getting contacted by the Government for subtly promoting stuff to their audience without explicitly saying that they are paid to do so, so Staurt has taken a precaution and blurred out the Can to show that he's not doing a sponsor and that maybe he forgot to remove it
And here I thought Germany was the only country suffering from a lot of ridiculous restrictions around product placement and online advertising. Except in our case it's not the fault of the government agency that should regulate this sort of stuff, they've got some pretty clear guidelines and as long as you stick to those they won't bother you. Instead it's an organisation that claims to act on behalf of their clients (but refuses to publicly name those clients) that sends out cease and desist letters left and right to anyone who ever mentions a brand or even tags another influencer or something in their posts. And if they drag you to court and you're not exceptionally lucky you'll encounter a jury that's probably never used UA-cam or Instagram and probably flips a coin. So we commiserate with you folks.
If you've ever been to the States and seen American TV there are more adverts than any actual programs. It's pretty much unwatchable. If it plays for 25 minutes in the UK that's because in the US it has 35 minutes of advertising around it.
@@SusanIvanova2257 yeah, in the UK you have to say "ad" in your description if you're advertising stuff -- pretty simple really. But places like UA-cam are becoming more and more corporatized. Now big money is there and willing to exert subtle influence, yeah you are gonna end up with weird cases like these
@@memethanYT Yeah probably because British ad placement rules (eg when American Idol (?) was shown here, the Coca Cola cups were blurred). I don't think he'd have got done for it, but better to err on the side of caution. Or maybe he's written personal information on it.
@@Zack_Wester that works too, I more meant just like they assume you already know it was on ashens and they're bragging about how big there product is by saying it's too big for the sofa
@@prawngravy18 Well, the controls _are_ relevant for playing the games. So if the controls are crap, you might as well build your own cabinet around an emulator. Except the primary audience for this are probably people who don't want to build their own cabinet.
@@AgentTasmania Aye, I know the struggle. FWIW btw the capitalization in my response wasn't for emphasis, that's the way Bosch officially stylizes IXO. =)
Fun story: I wanted a Neo Geo MVS machine, but it's impossible to find them in Ireland, so I built my own take on it with a PC inside it etc. Designed and made it all myself out of wood, a real labour of love. Nearing the end of completion of it now (after a couple of years of working on it on and off) and this comes out. It costs about 1/4 what mine cost to build. FML
Thank you for taking the time to open it up on camera. I was really curious whether or not the stick and buttons would be moddable, but it looks like they should be.
It should of just had all of the games for the system. I know that would take some extra licensing but come on if you're going all out like this just give us the entire library
@@RetroDrew That's about 150+ games, but it sure would be cool to see. They'd have to work out some licensing for games like Rage of the Dragons, Double Dragon (The fighting game) and Breakers, but it would have been cool. I'm just shocked that they left out AOF2 but they had AOF 1 and 3.
@@micshork Trust me I know how insane it would be to somehow license all 150+ games I'm just wishing that's what had happened. Especially since you can get a 2 player bar top arcade for around this same price with the entire Neo Geo library and more. Basically just wishful thinking
Well he could upgrade the joystick and buttons, but for this price they shouldn't be putting the cheapest shit they can find in it, you should be getting actual Sanwa hardware.
These are for folks that collect and the joysticks are decent the buttons are not bad but people want clicky buttons. Overall the quality is really nice and there few things that are lacking but these aren't for normal folks who just want to play. Stick to fortnight!
@Stix N' Stones in UK now to deal with COVID with have 3 tiers, tier I is minimal restrictions, tier II is moderate restrictions, mandatory face coverings in shops etc, tier III is full lockdown all over again.
@@SwiftStixx it's a giant pain in my ass, i was supposed to be flying out to the US in less than 15 days (via Serbia) to see my fiancé and start planning the wedding (i was bounced back to UK by US government when COVID started because although I have long term permission to stay I'm still a British Citizen) but it sounds like Manchester Airport is gonna be closed or have flights seriously reduced so that's possibly me missing Christmas with her and my step daughter. fuck my life.
As for six buttons, the recent Samurai Shodown Collection does allow for mapping special combinations to separate buttons, so there's that... not that these manufacturers knew that, I guess.
Ashens without the couch ... that is a new one ! 😏 15:40 thanks for the good look inside, you can do some awesome mods. Like the Pi, Pandora or a mini pc... only... spending first 500 dollar on a cabinet to rip it apart ...😅, maybe get something else if you want to start modding this. Aaah.. love the ashens channel for so many years ! 👌 (Even before I made video's myself) 😄
I guess they added the extra buttons to cater to people that are used to non standard layouts. In Brazil arcade machines had 6 buttons as a standard, Neo Geo games had the two extra buttons remapped to repeat one of the others or a combo of the two beside it.
I’ve been watching Stuart’s videos for years and I gotta say he’s always been consistent with being honest with his reviews. Good looking out 💯👌 also I watch his videos when I can’t sleep. Not that he’s boring but his voice calms me.
The bright side of this is that the buttons in this are really replacable. All you have to do is unclip the wires, unclip the buttons, and put new ones in. That said, that's unacceptable for $400 bones.
@@Supayone As a Neo Geo fan, I want good fucking parts if I'm playing fighting games, of which the Neo Geo is famous for. I'm not playing KOF '98 on a shite stick and buttons. There is literally no excuse for 500 bucks.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 years late, I have it and buttons are not an issue they were only an issue with the first run. They upgraded the speakers and buttons after the first run. They are way better than the 1up cabs by far.
@@user-yv2cz8oj1k that would drive the price up for no reason, the joysticks are not bad the buttons are not bad either but people want clicky sounds. Its like a 20 dollar upgrade and 30 mins to change the buttons if bothers you that much.
You know, when I clicked on this, I wasn’t expecting a cameo of the fucking Ixo Vino all these years later. I think that says more about the product than his actual review did.
Fyi, Take the front 3 screws out of each side & the controls come right out. Just unplug the ribbon cable before pulling it all the way off. No need to remove the monitor. Another guy said the button holes are a little small for the buttons he wanted to put in. Thanks for making this video for us.
For that price I would aim for an actual sized cabinet and restore it. I know this is easier to handle and store, but it barely gives the arcade vibe I want. I get the same result from plugging in an arcade stick to my PC and that has good joystick and buttons.
Stuart, if those are real leaf switches, you can adjust them to the sensitivity of your liking by spreading the contacts apart. That's the beauty of real leaf switches.
I could be wrong, but I believe the extra buttons are for people who use combination keys for actions in fighting games. So you can set up one button to press two or three other buttons at the same time.
You get most (if not all) of these SNK games for free with Amazon Gaming service (which is free, just links to your Amazon account), or atleast you could at some point earlier this year.
So, basically, with a bit of MDF, and old LCD monitor, an old gamepad and a raspberry pi, you could have something far more versatile. There's definately not £450 worth of tech and build quality in this thing. I've seen similar looking games machines with better controlls for half the price in Smyth'sToys!
The first review I've seen that thrashes this thing for everything else then the buttons. Also, still no mentioning of the slow UI and Times New Roman font.
After spending like $50 on amazon earlier this year to get the old NeoGeo Mini, was it going to be worth spending 10x as much to get 10 more games. Well, we could probably already guess that answer, but thank Ashens for confirming it.
The reason they come with 6 or 8 buttons, is because some games use only 2 or 3 buttons, and also SNK fighting games are played in various configs. OG setup is BCD A and isn't ideal for non fighters because A button under thumb King of Fighters and Mark of the Wolves tend to be played AC BD NeoCD players like CD AB and 2/3 buttons non-fighters tend to be ABC D
The buttons can be configured for box style and other competition configurations hence six buttons this was brought up in the RetroRGB review. As for VAT/Customs all units will ship from the German warehouse and if any are required it should be very little.
Looks like a cheap thing sold for a high price. From the volume knob to the cheapo screen, to the ebay buttons...yeah. Not particularly impressed with their products.
As someone who owns the MVSX, the buttons are definitely shite. I heard that the later versions of these machines have improved buttons though. In the end I replaced my buttons with Suzo Happs with D44x micro switches, and there are lots of YT videos explaining how to do that.
Something weird seems to be going on with Neo Turf Masters. The version on Switch has been updated and the name has been changed to Big Tournament Golf for some inexplicable reason.
that was the original japanese name, it even has the announcer say Big Tournament Golf on the title screen, they didn't re-record him to say neo turf masters when they came up with that title for some reason
Regarding the Vertical Scanline options: Occasionally Arcade machines had their CRTs rotated on the side, especially vertical shoot'em ups to give players more "forward viewspace", though granted the advantage is minuscule on 4:3/5:4 screens like that. But it was a game-changer when those widescreen tubes came out. Trivia: There were also some arcade machines that had the screen pointing up table-style, usually 4 player games.
Funny you bring up Arcade 1up in the description because that is *exactly* how the monitor looks assembled. So for $450, they're giving you half a $300 Arcade1up, (complete with the same piss-poor buttons and sticks) but pre-assembled?
"I've seen some cheap knock offs in my time... Obviously, I'm Ashens" should become the new slogan of the channel
I like how ashens still has that Bosch screwdriver after all these years. That's an obscure ass reference but yeah
Yep I spotted it too
I'm surprised its held its charge for so long.
glad to know i wasn't the only idiot to have noticed that
Wasn't it the Ixo Vino or something equally pretentious sounding?
Wine not use it?
I can't wait to see how many... erm, less scrupulous UA-camrs will prance about and proclaim that this is the greatest thing since the last great thing. Thanks Ashens for setting the record straight and do enjoy that Carlsberg...
edit: or Sprite, not sure either way
Waiting for Ben Heck to make it portable.
I don't get why neo geo fans aren't more outraged than Nintendo fans. Neogeo is clearly taking the piss with their fans. They overpriced cheap products for years now. That's why I'm not a neogeo fan. I bought the first wave of neogeo mini to play a few games, I knew that they were full of anti customer CEOs so I never bothered to collect for them.
That's gotta be a sprite can, there's some yellow on it. I can't help think it'd have been easier to move it and or refilm than blur the damned thing though
@@Openreality Cuz Neo Geo fans are generally a more niche group and thus tend to know a bit more and will not go for something like this. We're not stupid. Nintendo fans are people who go absolutely mental at anything whereas Neo Geo fans are mostly adults who are able to go "yeah, this isn't worth it" and then move on with their fucking life.
“It gets many things right but sadly for the money it just ain’t good enough”
I feel like that sums up pretty much all the Neo Geo stuff you have reviewed. It’s always got decent to good emulation and an ok selection of games but there’s always one thing that ruins it and the price is always too high
Classic neo geo...
Overpriced and not worth what they want
Here's a guess for the vertical scanlines: The emulator visual settings were designed with included options for vertically scrolling shooter games as well, which often had the built in monitor rotated 90°, so would have had vertical scanlines. The units the emulator would be used with likely wouldn't have a monitor that was mounted that way, they'd just rotate the image and not use the full screen.
No clue about the 40° option... Would that have been relevant to any cabinet design, like one that used a mirror?
I had my suspicions it was something to do with that too.
I suppose in theory that if you're building a custom-designed machine (which arcade machines are) there's no reason you couldn't control a CRT monitor in "portrait" orientation to scan at 90 degrees, so it was still "horizontal". Of course, you'd have to have the display chips output the display in that order as well. Whether there would be any benefit to that- let alone if it would be worth the hassle- and if anyone ever actually did it... I've no idea!
If- as I suspect- at least some parts were off the shelf, they might be designed to assume horizontal scanning was in use, and fiddly to make work differently or replace(??)
@@NotATube I don't think anyone would really have cared about having the scanlines going one way or another, and components for 4:3 screens accepting signals in the normal orientation would have been plentiful and mature, can't really think of a reason to try and buck that trend for the small use case of arcade cabinets (I guess possible differences in text rendering could have been a reason, if desperate enough?). If you can use the exact same components and just change the mounting of the display, I'd probably end up with the same decision.
@@NotATube And while arcade machines are always somewhat custom, there were some standards. You might know of these, but for the benefit of anyone reading through these comments later who might not: Relevant to this discussion, Japan Amusement Machine and Marketing Association came up with the JAMMA Video Standard in 1996, so with the same cabinet you could slap in any JAMMA compatible game motherboard. Haven't looked into whether JAMMA compatible vertically scrolling games were prevalent, but say you have a few cabinets specifically for vertically scrolling shmups along with the normal ones, it would be an enticing option for the arcade manager to be able to just swap out the marquee and the board to update their game selection.
You nonce
not neo geo shooters though
bad controls on a SNK system are weird. If there is any Games company known for no-compromise hardware, it's SNK. You bought the entire arcade board for your NeoGeo from them back in the day. that's why they were so extremely expensive. To see quality like this on any SNK machine is kinda really sad
good old SNK, too rich for my blood in the 1990s, still too rich for my blood in the 2020....go figure.
lol some things never change
@@Jesse__H **coughs** Milla Jovovich **coughs**
You can actually buy the games on Arcade Archives for 8 bucks each. It’s quite relieving when you think about how cheap they actually are. 😂
@@TheoZaHero Oh, yeah... forgot about that.
This unit is for people who collect the 3/4 arcades, if you just wanted to play these games an emulator would be free easy choice.
In case anyone is wondering about the blurred can, it's actually because of the UK's rules on product placement.
In America there are normally sponsors where you see products in the backgrounds with their logos visible, or use to drive the plot (See the Hawaii Five-o Subway scene, which I believe got banned in the UK.), over here it's against the rules to subtly promote stuff, you must make it clear if you are being sponsored by a product, which is why when American reality shows come over to the UK, you'll see T-Shirts and Coke cups blurred out almost all the time. And with UK shows, any products seen in the background are mainly turned around so that you just see labels and stuff (Although that is becoming a bit more lax here and there, if you see a faint "P" in the corner of the opening, that means there will be some product placement in the program.)
So why's Stuart blurring a Sprite Can? Because believe it or not, UK internet personalities are getting contacted by the Government for subtly promoting stuff to their audience without explicitly saying that they are paid to do so, so Staurt has taken a precaution and blurred out the Can to show that he's not doing a sponsor and that maybe he forgot to remove it
And here I thought Germany was the only country suffering from a lot of ridiculous restrictions around product placement and online advertising. Except in our case it's not the fault of the government agency that should regulate this sort of stuff, they've got some pretty clear guidelines and as long as you stick to those they won't bother you. Instead it's an organisation that claims to act on behalf of their clients (but refuses to publicly name those clients) that sends out cease and desist letters left and right to anyone who ever mentions a brand or even tags another influencer or something in their posts. And if they drag you to court and you're not exceptionally lucky you'll encounter a jury that's probably never used UA-cam or Instagram and probably flips a coin.
So we commiserate with you folks.
If you've ever been to the States and seen American TV there are more adverts than any actual programs. It's pretty much unwatchable. If it plays for 25 minutes in the UK that's because in the US it has 35 minutes of advertising around it.
@@SusanIvanova2257 yeah, in the UK you have to say "ad" in your description if you're advertising stuff -- pretty simple really. But places like UA-cam are becoming more and more corporatized. Now big money is there and willing to exert subtle influence, yeah you are gonna end up with weird cases like these
How come he doesn't need to blur all the Neo-Geo stuff?
11:03 I like how Ashens looks at the camera for a reaction even though we can't see his face and no one else is there.
It's just one of those odd little tics people have, I've spent the last year doing physical comedy over voice only Discord calls
I'm thirsty for a Sprite for some odd reason after watching this.
I’d take a blurry Sprite right now if it weren’t 2 in the morning.
Sprite... We got high on Coke! With a slice of lemon.
That confused me. Why take the time to blur the can out?
To avoid accidental product placement I guess?
@@memethanYT Yeah probably because British ad placement rules (eg when American Idol (?) was shown here, the Coca Cola cups were blurred). I don't think he'd have got done for it, but better to err on the side of caution.
Or maybe he's written personal information on it.
Can products start putting too big for the sofa as a selling point now
what you mean like the old as seen on TV. but instead as Seen on ashens Sofa.
@@Zack_Wester that works too, I more meant just like they assume you already know it was on ashens and they're bragging about how big there product is by saying it's too big for the sofa
Can you use some grammar please, that took me about 5 attempts to properly read.
@@memethanYT how would you phrase that
@@Zack_Wester YES!
I wouldn't mind one :D
Goto sleep larry
@Larry I certainly would not mind one two. But need to save my pennies for my new GPU.
@@ServiusTheBear you don't need expensive GPU for NEO-GEO xD
It's the same one they are sending around to all the UA-camrs. Gross.
@@FlashThunder_ I need a new one for my computer!
When ASHENS says the controls are crap... Run... Run Far Away and Never Look Back
the controls are the ONLY reason to get a cabinet. without them, what's the point?
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 another reason is for COLLECTING, DISPLAYING and PLAYING that's the other reasons to buy them.
@@prawngravy18 Well, the controls _are_ relevant for playing the games. So if the controls are crap, you might as well build your own cabinet around an emulator. Except the primary audience for this are probably people who don't want to build their own cabinet.
You comment is inappropriate and gayyy
I wonder why all those who are selling this type of bartops are getting cheap with the switches and joysticks.
That little old electric screwdriver from the Ixo Vino still lives, eh?
IXO Vino. =)
@@jubuttib
Ten years to the hour using iPhones, I haven't found how to turn auto-wrong off on my droid yet
@@AgentTasmania Aye, I know the struggle. FWIW btw the capitalization in my response wasn't for emphasis, that's the way Bosch officially stylizes IXO. =)
Bosch does tend to make decent stuff, I guess.
Android predictive text was better teen years ago. And the fact it put teen is a case in point.
Fun story: I wanted a Neo Geo MVS machine, but it's impossible to find them in Ireland, so I built my own take on it with a PC inside it etc. Designed and made it all myself out of wood, a real labour of love. Nearing the end of completion of it now (after a couple of years of working on it on and off) and this comes out. It costs about 1/4 what mine cost to build. FML
Yeah, but on the plus side, I'm assuming your one doesn't have unusably shite buttons...
@@NotATube that's true. Mine is also much bigger, like a real cabinet and it can run more than just mvs games, and with much better emulation
“Obviously.... I’m Ashens”
2020 line of the year.
The marquee has the art of 4 random games because that´s the way MVS arcade machines used to be.
the games where suposed to be ones that the owner had put in the cabinet
That thing is such a con. Thanks for this video, highlighting it. Those buttons are unforgivable.
18:36 the universally accepted noise for British displeasure
Thank you for taking the time to open it up on camera. I was really curious whether or not the stick and buttons would be moddable, but it looks like they should be.
The buttons will be replacement, the joystick though, might be a pain to replace.
Doesn't look right without the cigarette burns.😂
Your comment is inappropriate and gayyy
@@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 You’ve said this on multiple comments, you’re actually tragic hahaha
Not like you’ve got a brain have you pal?
@@Siegmeyer_ Brilliant come back I see you’ve had to edit your comment did you have trouble thinking what to say bless you lmfao.... 🤣🤣🤣🖕🏻
@@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 no I made a typo 😂
@@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 you obviously struggle with this whole comment thing so as Ashens says “that’s a bloody shame” 😂😂😂
I just wish it had Art of Fighting 2 and Shock Troopers 2
It should of just had all of the games for the system. I know that would take some extra licensing but come on if you're going all out like this just give us the entire library
@@RetroDrew That's about 150+ games, but it sure would be cool to see. They'd have to work out some licensing for games like Rage of the Dragons, Double Dragon (The fighting game) and Breakers, but it would have been cool.
I'm just shocked that they left out AOF2 but they had AOF 1 and 3.
The Path of the Warrior is the Art of Fighting 2 I think
They got to make an Custom Firmware for the console
@@micshork Trust me I know how insane it would be to somehow license all 150+ games I'm just wishing that's what had happened. Especially since you can get a 2 player bar top arcade for around this same price with the entire Neo Geo library and more. Basically just wishful thinking
It's a relief when these things turn out to be shit. Saves me money.
Well he could upgrade the joystick and buttons, but for this price they shouldn't be putting the cheapest shit they can find in it, you should be getting actual Sanwa hardware.
These are for folks that collect and the joysticks are decent the buttons are not bad but people want clicky buttons. Overall the quality is really nice and there few things that are lacking but these aren't for normal folks who just want to play. Stick to fortnight!
the last time i was this early...
no i can't be bothered, my home city just went back to tier 3 so I'm just glad Ashens uploaded.
@Stix N' Stones in UK now to deal with COVID with have 3 tiers, tier I is minimal restrictions, tier II is moderate restrictions, mandatory face coverings in shops etc, tier III is full lockdown all over again.
@@88HEATHENWOLF bollocks. Sorry to hear that mate, hope you’re doing fine
@@SwiftStixx it's a giant pain in my ass, i was supposed to be flying out to the US in less than 15 days (via Serbia) to see my fiancé and start planning the wedding (i was bounced back to UK by US government when COVID started because although I have long term permission to stay I'm still a British Citizen) but it sounds like Manchester Airport is gonna be closed or have flights seriously reduced so that's possibly me missing Christmas with her and my step daughter. fuck my life.
@@88HEATHENWOLF at least you’re alive unlike 1+ million. Big baby
@@kingkui12 "at least you're not dead" has to be the dumbest gatekeeping I've ever seen
As for six buttons, the recent Samurai Shodown Collection does allow for mapping special combinations to separate buttons, so there's that... not that these manufacturers knew that, I guess.
Ashens without the couch ... that is a new one ! 😏
15:40 thanks for the good look inside, you can do some awesome mods.
Like the Pi, Pandora or a mini pc... only... spending first 500 dollar on a cabinet to rip it apart ...😅, maybe get something else if you want to start modding this.
Aaah.. love the ashens channel for so many years ! 👌 (Even before I made video's myself) 😄
I guess they added the extra buttons to cater to people that are used to non standard layouts. In Brazil arcade machines had 6 buttons as a standard, Neo Geo games had the two extra buttons remapped to repeat one of the others or a combo of the two beside it.
I’ve been watching Stuart’s videos for years and I gotta say he’s always been consistent with being honest with his reviews. Good looking out 💯👌 also I watch his videos when I can’t sleep. Not that he’s boring but his voice calms me.
as soon as he said "just want you to think about that" about the buttons, I immediately knew the ones on the MVSX are going to be crap lol
Does Chekhov's Gun apply to tech reviews?
@@dominateeye Chekhov's Button
Damn it ashens, when are you going to make more "cheapo" episodes?
The bright side of this is that the buttons in this are really replacable. All you have to do is unclip the wires, unclip the buttons, and put new ones in. That said, that's unacceptable for $400 bones.
Four hundred dollar bones? Outrageous.
Four hundred dollars bones? 🤔
(Also this thing is $500. Did you fall for the old "people will see 499 and think 400" trick?)
This is for collectors, stick to fortnight as the cab is well made and the buttons nowhere as bad as folks make them out to be.
@@Supayone As a Neo Geo fan, I want good fucking parts if I'm playing fighting games, of which the Neo Geo is famous for. I'm not playing KOF '98 on a shite stick and buttons. There is literally no excuse for 500 bucks.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 years late, I have it and buttons are not an issue they were only an issue with the first run. They upgraded the speakers and buttons after the first run. They are way better than the 1up cabs by far.
"Hi! this is my nice arcade console, let me show you how terrible it is"
Well obviously it's nice, but the controls are shit, and for that price, if they are buying in bulk, I'm sure Sanwa would have cut them a deal.
@@user-yv2cz8oj1k that would drive the price up for no reason, the joysticks are not bad the buttons are not bad either but people want clicky sounds. Its like a 20 dollar upgrade and 30 mins to change the buttons if bothers you that much.
You know, when I clicked on this, I wasn’t expecting a cameo of the fucking Ixo Vino all these years later. I think that says more about the product than his actual review did.
Thank christ, a game related review at last! Not had one for a while.
Your comment is inappropriate and gayyy
@@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 Much like yourself old son.
@@TheRivieraKid 🖕🏻👈🏻
Fyi, Take the front 3 screws out of each side & the controls come right out. Just unplug the ribbon cable before pulling it all the way off.
No need to remove the monitor.
Another guy said the button holes are a little small for the buttons he wanted to put in.
Thanks for making this video for us.
Yeah easy
_"I'm Ashens"_ *-Ashens, 2020*
In fairness, he's right.
Ashens 2020 sounds like it would be either a cool streaming series or videogame.
One of his more popular phrases
I love your content asheeeens keep up the good work of reviews!
This video actually got me interested in that Arcade stick you showed at the beginning .
For that price I would aim for an actual sized cabinet and restore it. I know this is easier to handle and store, but it barely gives the arcade vibe I want. I get the same result from plugging in an arcade stick to my PC and that has good joystick and buttons.
2:05 Stuart, is that a can of 7Up you're blurring there?
i was very disrated by the blurred can XD
It's more sprite...
Sprite can
@@inewulf3204 I drink enough 7up to know sprite is darker green
Ashens was involved in a legal dispute with Sprite in the mid 00's over the phrase "mmmm call me captain refreshed"
You're using the Bosch Ixo Vino electric screwdriver thing you reviewed years ago! That's quality continuity right there, take that Vince Gilligan.
...Is that the Ixo Vino screwdriver? First a sequel to THE GOOSE, now this.
Now I want an Ixo Vino....
Stuart, if those are real leaf switches, you can adjust them to the sensitivity of your liking by spreading the contacts apart. That's the beauty of real leaf switches.
How many times are they going to re-release the same old games poorly emulated and shitty controls?
Until people stop buying them at hugely inflated prices I suppose!
Well the games and controls are fine it's just this was ruined by the buttons like Ashen's said
Don't matter. You kids keep buying this crap.
Seeing as the games are very well emulated...
@@jerryinohio1978 Kids? I'm pretty sure it's all a bunch of middle aged men who can't get over the toys they played with at children.
You should have put a chef excellence sticker on that can so you didnt have to blur it out.
the plug and play of my dreams, except it's way more than i thought it was
So weird, I just rewatched all your neogeo videos lastnight!
Ashens uploads, I watch. It's that simple.
I mean, surely that applies to most channels one would subscribe to :)
So say we all
simple as
Been marathoning your videos again, always great to see a new one!
The Arcade Stick Pro can be used on PC and Android as a standalone controller. That's why it has the extra 4 buttons.
Please, can someone write a horror story called "the gubbins inside"
Ashens and The Gubbins Inside is the Eldritch horror final installment of the trilogy
*Looks good but quite expensive*
You could build this for half the price have more customization and better quality
@@ivanravenski your comment is inappropriate and gayyy
@@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 Stop it
Awww, I love Neo Turf Masters... ON THE GWEEEEEN!
I could be wrong, but I believe the extra buttons are for people who use combination keys for actions in fighting games. So you can set up one button to press two or three other buttons at the same time.
You get most (if not all) of these SNK games for free with Amazon Gaming service (which is free, just links to your Amazon account), or atleast you could at some point earlier this year.
So, basically, with a bit of MDF, and old LCD monitor, an old gamepad and a raspberry pi, you could have something far more versatile. There's definately not £450 worth of tech and build quality in this thing. I've seen similar looking games machines with better controlls for half the price in Smyth'sToys!
I read the thumbnail in the same tone as "too hot for TV"
13:42 What happened there? All of reality went a bit wibbly wobbly.
He’s on his sofa with the MVSX on his knees.
Ashens is probably the only you tuber that didn't try to sugar coat this thing
I've been playing Neo Geo games in a browser ever since Ashens reviewed the Neo Geo X.
The first review I've seen that thrashes this thing for everything else then the buttons. Also, still no mentioning of the slow UI and Times New Roman font.
If I had to guess about the extra buttons, it's probably for the Atomiswave SNK games.
After spending like $50 on amazon earlier this year to get the old NeoGeo Mini, was it going to be worth spending 10x as much to get 10 more games. Well, we could probably already guess that answer, but thank Ashens for confirming it.
and some games come with anti aliasing turned on and you cant change that...
Ugh
ew
Some??
The return of the Bosch screwdriver and a censored sprite can
The reason they come with 6 or 8 buttons, is because some games use only 2 or 3 buttons, and also SNK fighting games are played in various configs.
OG setup is
BCD
A
and isn't ideal for non fighters because A button under thumb
King of Fighters and Mark of the Wolves tend to be played
AC
BD
NeoCD players like
CD
AB
and 2/3 buttons non-fighters tend to be
ABC
D
I have a love for arcade cabinets, especially small ones.
My favorite SNK game was that dancing one bust a move where you had the arrows you had to step on.
puzzle bobble was also really good
Good to see you've protected the identity of that can of sprite.
When it transitioned to the bar, I was sad that Barry wasn't there 😢
"All the Controls, LCD monitor, and Cabinet are all commercial quality."
Love the LCD numbers near the 'Right Player Start'! 😁
the Neo Geo stick has the extra buttons because you can hook it up to a PS4 or Switch
I could recognise that volume knob anywhere - it's the same as in Scythe Kama Amp Kro.
That's right Sprite you'll get no free advertising here! Wait... DAMMIT
2:09 i don't know about you guys but i could really go for a can of *CENSORED* right now.
Wow the Ixo Vino... That's oldschool Ashens
The buttons can be configured for box style and other competition configurations hence six buttons this was brought up in the RetroRGB review. As for VAT/Customs all units will ship from the German warehouse and if any are required it should be very little.
Ashens providing his own handheld lighting.
The best bit of kit in this video is that Ming the Merciless screwdriver
This is unbelievable. $500 shipped for this thing? I bought an actual Neo Geo 4-slot cabinet for $500 a few years ago.
Looks like a cheap thing sold for a high price. From the volume knob to the cheapo screen, to the ebay buttons...yeah. Not particularly impressed with their products.
Not when they will buy in bulk and you could build the same thing for a lot less buying the parts yourself.
As someone who owns the MVSX, the buttons are definitely shite. I heard that the later versions of these machines have improved buttons though. In the end I replaced my buttons with Suzo Happs with D44x micro switches, and there are lots of YT videos explaining how to do that.
Something weird seems to be going on with Neo Turf Masters. The version on Switch has been updated and the name has been changed to Big Tournament Golf for some inexplicable reason.
...Must be license issues with Callaway or something...
that was the original japanese name, it even has the announcer say Big Tournament Golf on the title screen, they didn't re-record him to say neo turf masters when they came up with that title for some reason
@@MadGaz85 Ah, that makes sense.
@@MadGaz85 So AN argued they have a trademark on the word "Master"?
Fuck that.
The arcade stick has extra buttons because you can use it as a stand alone arcade stick for other systems, it's pretty neat.
When he dropped the screw got me😂😂😂
i wish i found old arcade things more exciting than screws dropping.
Preordered this. If the only problem are the buttons I can replace them for like $15.
Too big for the Couch?! I’m scared!
Thinking about the amount of import tax you'll pay for this beast makes my eyes water.
It’s cool to see Stu using the electric screwdriver he reviewed years ago.
Just made it to the under 1000 club
I see ashens, I click.
I watch ashens, I smile 😊
At least it is easy to open up and replace those crappy buttons for some proper Sanwa arcade ones.
The extra buttons are for shortcuts.
Every time Ashens says "That's good Innit" I am reminded how badly I'd want a shirt of that.
Regarding the Vertical Scanline options:
Occasionally Arcade machines had their CRTs rotated on the side, especially vertical shoot'em ups to give players more "forward viewspace", though granted the advantage is minuscule on 4:3/5:4 screens like that. But it was a game-changer when those widescreen tubes came out.
Trivia: There were also some arcade machines that had the screen pointing up table-style, usually 4 player games.
Neo Geo games were (apparently) never rotated though; even the shooters.
Funny you bring up Arcade 1up in the description because that is *exactly* how the monitor looks assembled.
So for $450, they're giving you half a $300 Arcade1up, (complete with the same piss-poor buttons and sticks) but pre-assembled?
you can tell from Stuart's intonation that there's a big BUT coming your way.
What's the betting this was designed as a Capcom emulator box and repurposed for SNK?
The Neo Geo arcade stick has eight buttons because you can switch it into stick mode and use it as an arcade stick for any console.