My daughter had the mini, the dipstck design is terrible, i was never able to read the oil level. We were pleased when someone smashed into it while parked up.
2014 Subaru Outback owner. 98k miles. I can confirm It burns about a quart and a half between oil changes. If you own one, you’ve got to keep up with the oil levels. That being said, I’m probably going to keep driving until it dies because it’s cheaper to add oil than to buy a new car nowadays. Dealer stock is low, and they gouge for what they do have in stock.
Same here, 2008 Accord, uses oil like crazy but other than that it’s a great car, I just keep a close eye on the oil and add frequently. It’s odd because back in the day you could tell if a car was using oil by the blue smoke from the exhaust, not anymore, no sign of it using oil unless you check the dipstick, it certainly is an annoying problem for an otherwise great vehicle.
Try switching to Valvoline Restore and Protect. It’s made to clean piston rings and any type of varnish/carbon build up below the piston. Your best bet for any carbon cleaning above the piston would probably be a walnut blast.
I had a 2012 Volvo S60 t6 awd with the 3.0 liter 6 cylinder and had this issue for the entire length of time that I owned the car. This engine is a carry over to other models other than XC70 in this video, but also the S60, S80, XC90, and XC60 with the 3.0 liter 6 cylinder. I would strong recommend avoiding them unless you have a lot of money to put into these cars! I traded it in and cut my losses!
Some Lexus LS460 are known to burn up to 4 qts of oil between oil changes. Since the oil pan holds 9.7 qts (instead of typical 5 qts), the loss of 1- 4 qts of oil isn't really noticed.
I had to put in 1ltr of oil in my 2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 Special Edition petrol. It was a known issue I believe. But I loved the speed and handling. Stuck to the road like glue. Toyotas - no problem at all.
I owned an Audi Q5 3.2. Thing burned through oil very fast. I panicked during a trip when the oil light came (yes this was after a couple weeks prior to an oil change). Luckily a gas station had just the right viscosity to get me through the trip. Worst money pit ever
I had a 2017 Hyundai Sonata that was a great car for a while. I did regular oil changes with full synthetic recommended oil and filter changes and once it hit 50,000 miles the oil started disappearing. At 65,000 it went to a quart every 500 miles. I sold it at 99,000 miles.
Same with my 2016 Sonata. Someone hit me and totaled it a couple weeks ago. I hate that I feel this way, but I am not sad about it. Got way more from insurance than I would have gotten selling or trading it in.
If you were the original owner, Hyundai has a 10 year - 100K mile warranty on the powertrain. You can request an oil usage test, and if you use a quart every 500 miles then they are obligated to fix it. If a dealer gives you any flack about that, you should open a case with Hyundai Motor America, and seek legal advice if that does not work. Having been on several Hyundai forums, it appears to me that Hyundai does honor its warranty, if you maintained the car as required in the owner's manual. I own a 2009 Hyundai Genesis with the 3.8L V6, and my engine does not use ANY noticeable amount of oil in-between oil changes (according to the dipstick reading), but I only have 77K miles on it.
My Equinox had the blowing oil problem. Chevrolet fixed the problem and replaced all the pistons. I had six months left on the warranty. 162,000 miles and running like a top. Other than tires, an AC issue and the piston replacement I have had no repairs. It’s a 2013.
My last car a Volvo XC60 T6 3 ltr. Was literally the most unreliable car I ever had in my ownership....so many engine issues...literally a nightmare...still suffering from nightmares
Spiros K, I bought a 1990 Volvo 240dl in Sept of 2000. Drove that car for 21 years and loved it. It didn't burn oil, conquered the winter months here in the northern midwest and got driven everywhere. Late in 2021 I finally had to just retire it for good, rust was just taking over the lower body & undercarriage. It had well over 300,000 miles on it and I'd have bought another one as a replacement if I could have found one within a reasonable distance from me .... but there were none around.
I love Volvos, the main point that he is missing is stating 3.0 turbo charged anything turbo or supercharged will burn oil because of the pressure. i had two xc90 with 3.2 engine no problem i have xc70 with 3.2 naturally aspirated engine no issues. so buy regular engine and you can do 400.000 km no problem
It is insane that some cars depreciate faster than they accelerate. Anything thats expensive will do that , and the movement the warranty is over (usually 4 years) you are the one that starts bleeding . BMW and Audi will be sort of problem free during the warranty period, but they even put a few quarts of oil in your trunk! If you don't care about "Image" avoid any GDI engine, and most Eurotrash.
Subaru -- sub par reliability never thought I would hear these words !!!!! Also petrol Audis in the mid 2000's did have an oil consumption issue which was due to the narrowness of the oil scraper rings having a tendency to become blocked with carbon thereby ceasing their function of oil control. How did I guess that BMW would be at the top of the UA-cam bashers list ! WE rub along perfectly ok in the UK with our Beemers !
As someone with a 2014 Subaru Legacy, I can say it is one of the ONLY cars I've ever own that does NOT consume oil like it's going out of style. My BMW was the worst with it, a qt. every 1000 EASILY if not more.
If you live in the snow belt, buy any of these vehicles that have external oil leaks. This way you can greatly reduce under body rusting from salted roads. Better than undercoating lol. Yes. Stay away.
Too thin oil is a huge contributor to this. The oil returns are too small also so they tried to offset this with thinner oil. Another contributing factor is the thinner oil atomizing and basically evaporating. They also boosted the oil pumps speed to offset the oil viscosity to create a higher oil pressure. Finally the recommended oil change intervals are further apart which causes the oil to thicken and sludge in the engine. The cause of all this I point to EPA standards and poor engineering. Adding turbos and superchargers to this increases the likelihood for problems and not only relating to oil consumption.
Our Mazdas and Fords use thinner oil and burn or leak nary a drop between oil changes. Two went well beyond 100k miles and two more show every sign of repeating that.
There’s a fundamental misunderstanding about how high performance engines are engineered. In high performance, particularly turbocharged and supercharged applications, piston ring gaps are much larger to accommodate expansion due to higher cylinder pressure and temperature. This allows combustion gasses to “blow by” the pistons and pressurize the crank case. These modern engines have a complex crank case ventilation and oil separating system to handle this. If your engine is burning oil, likely the positive crankcase ventilation system needs to be serviced or replaced. Also driving habits definitely influence the issue. Running the engine hard before it’s had a chance to warm up and close the ring gaps will introduce significantly more pressure in the crank case. What am I basing this on? Owning several Volkswagen and Audi products ranging from 1.8Ts to 4.0Ts, turbo and supercharged, up to 250k miles on some. I’ve never had an oil consumption issue. As a byproduct I’ve never had an intake carbon issue on an FSI engine. Maintain your stuff and warm your engine up before you smash your foot in it.
@@howardkerr8174 That’s awesome! It really all comes down to personal preference. I personally like a lot of power combined with good economy which boosted DI engines provide. And I’m willing to live with the extra care and maintenance that comes with that. A lot of people don’t want to worry about it and that’s cool too. I think you made an informed decision based on what you want in a car and that’s awesome. Sadly a lot of people don’t do their research and we end up with misleading propaganda like this video.
UA-cam is stacked with people saying how horrible the GM High Value V6 is yet there doesnt seem to be data to support this in cars where the oil was changed as recommended.
Guys avoid all these vehicles. Excessive oil consumption eventually destroys the catalytic converter. That is a very expensive repair. The engine is shot and the cat is shot. Forget it, the car us mechanically totalled!
@Alfred Weber I've owned a 2000 Hyundai, a 2010 Hyundai, a 2018 Hyundai, and a 2009 KIA. Changed the oil every 4000 miles on all of them and never had to add ANY oil between changes to any of them.
This video freaked me out and I ran to check the oil level on my 2012 Mazda6 2.5 with 269,000kms for my very first time! The car hasn’t burnt a drop since the last oil change 9k ago! I honestly thought oil burning was a thing of the past… poor bastards.
@@monkmchorning Full synthetic oil changes every 10,000kms on the dot without fail! The car still runs flawlessly while the dealership mourns my absence.
Meanwhile, I've owned 3 cheap-ass Hyundais and 1 cheap-ass Kia and changed the oil every 4000 miles and never had to add any oil between changes on any of them. Come to think of it, I've never had to do much of anything to them. Should I buy a BMW next time, to impress my idiot neighbors?
@@Slavic_Boer Believe or disbelieve whatever you like . I'm just stating the facts of my experience with Hyundais and Kias. And I'm a retired auto tech with almost 40 years experience (including being a "BMW Certified Master Technician"), so I think I know a little bit about cars, at least how to check my oil.
I picked up an 08 kia rio5 manual Trans for $500 from an older neighbor that stopped driving. It sat for 2 years un driven. I put a battery in it and it fired right up. Changed the timing belt and all the fluids and it's a great little car. I bought it with the intention of doing a quick flip but it runs so good and is so cheap and easy to work on, I've decided to keep it.
I own a 2009 Hyundai Genesis with the 3.8L V6, and my engine does not use ANY noticeable amount of oil in-between oil changes (according to the dipstick reading), but I only have 77K miles on it. I purchased the car new, and do all the oil changes myself with Mobil 1 Extended Protection 5W-30.
You missed the 2015,16,17 Volve S&V 60's with 2.0l T5 Turbo engines. Actually I think all the Volvo engines had oil consumption issuses. The oil rings are the issue getting clogged up. For all that have an issue with oil consumption with an otherwise good running engine try a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil next time you have to add a quart. You may not see an immediate reduction but you should some over the long term. My Volvo went from having to put a quart in every 400mi miles to over 1400mi. I'm hoping the number will continue increase.
2015.5 Volvo S60. Even though a service bulletin was issued, Volvo expects the owner to pay for new pistons and rings to be installed. Volvo used this SAME piston and ring design as in the previous years six cylinder engines in this video, so they knew. The car made it to 98,000 miles and was burning a quart every 400 miles. Yes, four hundred miles. First and last Volvo we will ever own.
My 2015 Kia Soul with the 2.0 GDI engine wasn’t Then at 90,000 miles it started Then consistently burning a quart every 1000 miles It destroyed my catalytic converter Which wasn’t under the extended 15 year 150000 warranty And Kia won’t repair or replace the engine Last Kia I’ll ever buy
@@shawnellsworth7623 I never considered that burining oil would kill the catalytic converters until my own needed to be replaced after just 3 years. My car drinks oil, but pouring it in is cheaper than buying a new car.
My 03 Camry,3.0 V6 I've had this car for about a year now and it doesn't use or burn a drop of oil.the four cylinder models are oil burners, head gasket issues too.
I have an old daily driver, a 2010 Dodge Avenger with 180k miles. It's just now beginning to use a little oil but not even a quart between changes. Maybe it's because I still change the oil/filter between 3k and 4k miles ??
To be fair, my comment isn't about calling out my much enjoyed brand, Chrysler/dodge. That said, my wifes and my '04 Durango (5.7l V8) burns a qt every ~1k miles or so, but runs like a beast at 172k miles and rolling, and my '05 Sebring (2.4l i4) burns a qt every 1,500-2,000 miles with 151k miles on the odometer, but still a fun little sedan. As these cars get older and see wear and tear, and some fun times, I don't expect them to be burn-free, but if it's fresh off the assembly line and less than 100k miles, it shouldn't go through more than a qt in 5k miles, just my opinion. :)
He'll love the Mazda 3! If he's into cars he'll understand why. They're reliable, practical, economical and fun to drive. Especially the manual, it's a great transmission.
Unfortunately, too many parents buy what they think are good vehicles for their children...but never really research the car or truck they are considering. This parent (Tim W.) is doing it right. My nieces each got Hondas or Mazdas while in school. When they finally bought their own cars they bought what appealed to them, to their dissatisfaction.
If you have a used ride and it ONLY uses one quart between changes, count yourself lucky. Aluminum blocks, aluminum heads, aluminum or alloy pistons, government regulations forcing quality sacrifice for fuel economy....you should expect even a new ride to use a little oil. A quart every 1k miles is ridiculous though on new or late model rides.
Stop It I’ve owned 3 Audis all services on time all lasted 200,000 plus miles before I sold them off…. You mean don’t buy luxury cars if your are a simp that can’t do any simple work on your own car…. I don’t want to be in a Toyota or Honda cuz those cars are boring…. Give me some muscle and some speed….. give me passion….
I have a 2011 BMW X5 twin turbo xdrive35i, it doesn't appear to use much oil, but I always seem to smell burnt oil. In fact when it sits for a while and I start it up you can see the oil burned smoke coming through the vents. Anybody have any ideas? I just drove it 2,000 miles to and from Texas it did not appear to use much oil but once the car is heated up and driving I don't smell that burn oil smell, maybe only very occasionally. It's when it sits for a while and you started up then you can smell that horrible burned oil smell.
@@ShadowBannedagain it is the truth, especially with turbos. They have looser clearances to run more efficiently. Forced induction will push that thin oil through the piston rings. Catch cans are a must on newer shitty engines
This is mainly the cause of manufacturers trying to lower the internal friction inside an engine, so they fit piston rings with less spring pressure. These softer rings are the cause of all modern engines having consumption issues because they don't make a decent seal between the rings and the cylinder wall. In the search for better fuel mileage we are going backwards with sound engineering standards. 30 and 40 years ago cars would use negligible oil and were much more reliable. Audious502 GTS ...?Piston ring gaps? ...Yeah, okay.
Building to last isn`t that difficult, building economically and only as necessary is difficult. They used to built engines and parts which could do +500.000km and then at one point they all pulled their old models from the scrapyard, disassembled everything and looked at it. Everything which was still in good condition but on a car which went to a scrapyard anyway was downgraded. Add the pressure of competition and the ever more increasing pressure from your customer for a fuel efficient and inexpensive car, BUT with all the features and gimmicks a car has to have these days. After warranty of 5-7 years its none of the manufacturers business, it`s only a used car out in the wild. They would gladly sell you a new one and everything older then 10 years is considered ancient anyway by most people these days. So they also don`t really care.
@@bug2011 been driving my aunt’s 97, before getting a 2011 . she bought her 97 in 2013. Never had issue , until a snow drift wreck . She still drives it up until this year.
Honda/acura vtec engines all burn oil. Had a 2001 acura gsr vtec burned 1-2 bottles every couple weeks. Had a 2010 crv ex-l with k24 vtec high output engine. Burned a bottle every couple weeks. Will never buy a honda again. Not even my 2001 chevy camaro nor my 2002 pontiac gtp supercharged burned a drop of oil!! My new 2014 camry did not burn a drop of oil sold it cause it was too boring. My old 2008 corolla s gas saver doesn’t burn a drop!!
If you aren't checking your oil even on a brand new ride ONCE A WEEK you're asking for problems. Surely you have enough time to pop the hood and check the stick. It's not just the cars on this video. Chevy has a new 3 cylinder turbo engine. How long will it take to use up a 3 cylinder that runs at high rpm and heat ranges. GM is discontinuing the V6 3.6L engine which is a shame. Ford has already discontinued their V6 option in rides other than trucks. I have a 2015 Chevy Equinox, like the one on this video. BUT it has the 3.6L V6. NO oil burning, better power. It was a problem in the first couple years but by 2014 was likely the best domestic V6 on the market.
Volvo: Synthetic oil frequently should be changed every 7,500 - 10,000 miles. So 1 qt between 3750 miles and 5000 miles. OMG, the horror! and 25% of customers reported that. Are you a mechanic/Technician? And a hint, oil leaks like from the valve cover isn't oil burning.
@@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386 my ex wife had one maintained perfect, trans died at 120k replaced, then spun rod bearing in engine at less than 200k junked it. In those yrs had replace starter water pump radiator alternator twice frond end work just over 100k, bought her camry like one i have now. 400k 1 alt 1 radiator, 1 02 sensor, everything else original like.mine at 350k
Yea I have an 2013 Audi Q7 I have to add a quart of oil between oil changes I just take it to the dealership & they just top it off they have the oil sitting there lol they know what’s going on
@@felixkimani7404 reliability is great I only replaced the air pump for the suspension cost around $550 everything else still good jus keep up on them oil changes $150/60
It's possible to choose carefully and do fine - at least I have so far, with a US Model 2014 Audi A5 2.0T (now 67,000 miles, engine code CPMB) and a 2017 Subaru Forester XT 2.0T (now 72,000 miles, FA20A engine). Both my cars consume virtually zero oil between 5,000 mile changes still today. Also, give Audi some credit for the electronic dipstick - it is a lot easier to push a button or two to see your oil level anytime you want, than pull and wipe a dipstick. I have done enough of my own science experimentation to have proved that the electronic dipstick can accurately register an oil loss of as little as one-quarter of one quart (8 fl. oz.). And I believe if you hit the oil's "minimum" mark the car will alert you automatically, you don't have to seek a check. As for Subaru, dipstick-checking technique has to be careful - you cannot get an accurate reading without first extracting the stick, wiping it off, and reinserting it. Level ground is essential. The video also glosses over a very major change in Subaru engines which happened in the early 2010s decade for various models - the change from 'EJ" engines to "FA" and "FB" engines. (you can see the engine type on the car's door-jamb data plate). The EJ engine is the main source of the head-gasket talk, while the Fs are the main source of the oil consumption talk. So either type can present an issue, but be very sure that your mechanic knows which is which.
Thats a lot of good info Mark. Do you know when is the best time to check the oil? when its cold and sitting for a while or run the engine for a minute then check it?
@@frankd9015 I'd say the important thing is to be consistent - no matter when you check the oil, if you see it staying the same, you know you don't have much consumption and you're fine. And as long as you let the oil drain for more than a few minutes, and you wipe the dipstick off carefully, all my cars have always been quite consistent between hot and cold, parked or recently running. Also - make sure you use level ground, or at least always the same location pointing the same direction.
My 2007 #Dodge #GrandCaravan SXT with the 3.8L V6 used up a quart of #oil every 1 thousand miles when purchased in 2009 with 73 thousand miles, #Mopar say's this is normal......#ThinkNot!
You forget the worst car oil consumption Toyota Camry has very bad oil burning and very bad reviews Models to avoid: Toyota Camry 2007 to 2010 included hybrid.
A Toyota Ad shows up before this vid plays! 😂😂😂😂😂 Toyota is my #1 dream brand. Since I cannot afford a car later than 2010, which I can land the right running Yaris of 2009 or 10. Or Camry of same time frame with sunroof.
When is the best time to buy a BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar? When they're new, under warranty and you can afford to buy them and don't mind the HUGE depreciation when you get rid of it. NEVER buy a used one, any of them, unless you have a truck load of money to spend on repairs.
About VAG and BMW engines thats no news at all....Subaru pre 2010 2.0 turbo engine with some proper maintenance can last for more than 200k miles...unfortunately I had to sacrifice my hard earned cash to acquire the knowledge and experience.....T6 Volvo engines are utterly rubish
Toyotas have problems too but youtubers all sucking on the toy juice ignore it but quick to notice few issues on other car manufacturers. My advice drive what you love and run it until the wheels falls off.
My daughter had the mini, the dipstck design is terrible, i was never able to read the oil level. We were pleased when someone smashed into it while parked up.
2014 Subaru Outback owner. 98k miles. I can confirm It burns about a quart and a half between oil changes. If you own one, you’ve got to keep up with the oil levels. That being said, I’m probably going to keep driving until it dies because it’s cheaper to add oil than to buy a new car nowadays. Dealer stock is low, and they gouge for what they do have in stock.
Same here, 2008 Accord, uses oil like crazy but other than that it’s a great car, I just keep a close eye on the oil and add frequently. It’s odd because back in the day you could tell if a car was using oil by the blue smoke from the exhaust, not anymore, no sign of it using oil unless you check the dipstick, it certainly is an annoying problem for an otherwise great vehicle.
Yes cheaper to add oil then buy a new vehicle with new car dealerships gouging.
Try switching to Valvoline Restore and Protect. It’s made to clean piston rings and any type of varnish/carbon build up below the piston. Your best bet for any carbon cleaning above the piston would probably be a walnut blast.
I had a 2012 Volvo S60 t6 awd with the 3.0 liter 6 cylinder and had this issue for the entire length of time that I owned the car. This engine is a carry over to other models other than XC70 in this video, but also the S60, S80, XC90, and XC60 with the 3.0 liter 6 cylinder. I would strong recommend avoiding them unless you have a lot of money to put into these cars! I traded it in and cut my losses!
Some Lexus LS460 are known to burn up to 4 qts of oil between oil changes. Since the oil pan holds 9.7 qts (instead of typical 5 qts), the loss of 1- 4 qts of oil isn't really noticed.
Consumer Reports will never throw any toyotas under the bus
Certain Honda K series engines drank oil like water. I had an 07 Civic Si and 11 Accord coupe that didn’t have a leak but I always had to add oil.
I had to put in 1ltr of oil in my 2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 Special Edition petrol. It was a known issue I believe. But I loved the speed and handling. Stuck to the road like glue. Toyotas - no problem at all.
I have a Toyota Highlander 2015 and it burns through so much oil its crazy. I have to add oil about every 2 weeks.
I owned an Audi Q5 3.2. Thing burned through oil very fast. I panicked during a trip when the oil light came (yes this was after a couple weeks prior to an oil change). Luckily a gas station had just the right viscosity to get me through the trip. Worst money pit ever
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Before I clicked this video I already knew the list was gonna be full of Subarus lol.
I had a 2017 Hyundai Sonata that was a great car for a while. I did regular oil changes with full synthetic recommended oil and filter changes and once it hit 50,000 miles the oil started disappearing. At 65,000 it went to a quart every 500 miles. I sold it at 99,000 miles.
Same with my 2016 Sonata. Someone hit me and totaled it a couple weeks ago. I hate that I feel this way, but I am not sad about it. Got way more from insurance than I would have gotten selling or trading it in.
If you were the original owner, Hyundai has a 10 year - 100K mile warranty on the powertrain. You can request an oil usage test, and if you use a quart every 500 miles then they are obligated to fix it. If a dealer gives you any flack about that, you should open a case with Hyundai Motor America, and seek legal advice if that does not work. Having been on several Hyundai forums, it appears to me that Hyundai does honor its warranty, if you maintained the car as required in the owner's manual. I own a 2009 Hyundai Genesis with the 3.8L V6, and my engine does not use ANY noticeable amount of oil in-between oil changes (according to the dipstick reading), but I only have 77K miles on it.
Agree - oil had to be changed so frequently despite of not driving my much of my Audi Q5 2013 model
How frequently ? I got a 2014 Q5 2.0 and I change the oil every 5000K and never had to add any oil
Oil burning is a deal breaker for me. I can’t tolerate it.
We have a 2018 Ford Edge purchased new. Only 15k miles but never added any oil. I check the dipstick each month. Our Edge has the 3.5 v6.
I have a Honda with the 3.5 V6 it’s always full at oil changes every 5000 miles at 102,000 miles.
Thank you very much.! I will keep that in my mind.👌👌😁😁
My Equinox had the blowing oil problem. Chevrolet fixed the problem and replaced all the pistons. I had six months left on the warranty. 162,000 miles and running like a top. Other than tires, an AC issue and the piston replacement I have had no repairs. It’s a 2013.
My last car a Volvo XC60 T6 3 ltr. Was literally the most unreliable car I ever had in my ownership....so many engine issues...literally a nightmare...still suffering from nightmares
Spiros K, I bought a 1990 Volvo 240dl in Sept of 2000. Drove that car for 21 years and loved it. It didn't burn oil, conquered the winter months here in the northern midwest and got driven everywhere. Late in 2021 I finally had to just retire it for good, rust was just taking over the lower body & undercarriage. It had well over 300,000 miles on it and I'd have bought another one as a replacement if I could have found one within a reasonable distance from me .... but there were none around.
I have a 2012 Volvo XC 60 t6 3.0 , absolutely loved, 131000 miles without issues, it use some oil, but i like to change oil every 3000 miles
I love Volvos, the main point that he is missing is stating 3.0 turbo charged anything turbo or supercharged will burn oil because of the pressure. i had two xc90 with 3.2 engine no problem
i have xc70 with 3.2 naturally aspirated engine no issues. so buy regular engine and you can do 400.000 km no problem
It is insane that some cars depreciate faster than they accelerate. Anything thats expensive
will do that , and the movement the warranty is over (usually 4 years) you are the one that starts bleeding . BMW and Audi will be sort of problem free during the warranty period, but
they even put a few quarts of oil in your trunk! If you don't care about "Image" avoid any GDI engine, and most Eurotrash.
Exactly… the word is cave man technology!
My 2009 Honda Pilot burns 1 quart per 300 miles. Right out the tailpipe. I have stopped regular oil changes. I just change the filter.
Subaru -- sub par reliability never thought I would hear these words !!!!! Also petrol Audis in the mid 2000's did have an oil consumption issue which was due to the narrowness of the oil scraper rings having a tendency to become blocked with carbon thereby ceasing their function of oil control. How did I guess that BMW would be at the top of the UA-cam bashers list ! WE rub along perfectly ok in the UK with our Beemers !
As someone with a 2014 Subaru Legacy, I can say it is one of the ONLY cars I've ever own that does NOT consume oil like it's going out of style. My BMW was the worst with it, a qt. every 1000 EASILY if not more.
If you live in the snow belt, buy any of these vehicles that have external oil leaks. This way you can greatly reduce under body rusting from salted roads. Better than undercoating lol.
Yes. Stay away.
Too thin oil is a huge contributor to this. The oil returns are too small also so they tried to offset this with thinner oil. Another contributing factor is the thinner oil atomizing and basically evaporating. They also boosted the oil pumps speed to offset the oil viscosity to create a higher oil pressure. Finally the recommended oil change intervals are further apart which causes the oil to thicken and sludge in the engine. The cause of all this I point to EPA standards and poor engineering. Adding turbos and superchargers to this increases the likelihood for problems and not only relating to oil consumption.
Our Mazdas and Fords use thinner oil and burn or leak nary a drop between oil changes. Two went well beyond 100k miles and two more show every sign of repeating that.
There’s a fundamental misunderstanding about how high performance engines are engineered. In high performance, particularly turbocharged and supercharged applications, piston ring gaps are much larger to accommodate expansion due to higher cylinder pressure and temperature. This allows combustion gasses to “blow by” the pistons and pressurize the crank case. These modern engines have a complex crank case ventilation and oil separating system to handle this. If your engine is burning oil, likely the positive crankcase ventilation system needs to be serviced or replaced. Also driving habits definitely influence the issue. Running the engine hard before it’s had a chance to warm up and close the ring gaps will introduce significantly more pressure in the crank case. What am I basing this on? Owning several Volkswagen and Audi products ranging from 1.8Ts to 4.0Ts, turbo and supercharged, up to 250k miles on some. I’ve never had an oil consumption issue. As a byproduct I’ve never had an intake carbon issue on an FSI engine. Maintain your stuff and warm your engine up before you smash your foot in it.
Again Turbos are getting bad press….People shouldn’t buy products they don’t understand. They watch too many movies
@@dcmsr5141 *DANGER TO MANIFOLD* 🤣😂
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Recently bought a lightly used Ford Fusion, I purposely avoided the turbocharged models and the direct injection models.
@@howardkerr8174 That’s awesome! It really all comes down to personal preference. I personally like a lot of power combined with good economy which boosted DI engines provide. And I’m willing to live with the extra care and maintenance that comes with that. A lot of people don’t want to worry about it and that’s cool too. I think you made an informed decision based on what you want in a car and that’s awesome. Sadly a lot of people don’t do their research and we end up with misleading propaganda like this video.
UA-cam is stacked with people saying how horrible the GM High Value V6 is yet there doesnt seem to be data to support this in cars where the oil was changed as recommended.
check you PCV valve and clean it to stop oil shortages
Replace it with OEM part
Hi, very pleased to see that only ONE of these cars is made in America!!! That said something about American made car quality.
NOTE: Both my 2005 Acura MDX and 2013 Audi A6 3.0s burn oil every month. BUT they both rock!!! So worth it.
No mention of 2021 Mazda turbo. That has a known issue.
Guys avoid all these vehicles. Excessive oil consumption eventually destroys the catalytic converter. That is a very expensive repair. The engine is shot and the cat is shot. Forget it, the car us mechanically totalled!
Also Toyota Camry 4 cylinder and Corolla burning oil
Consumer Reports, strangely quite on toyota oil burning
It was the 2007 - 2009 Camry with the 2AZ-FE engines built 4:56 with the faulty piston rings
Basically dont buy any bmw, vw, audi, gm suv or chrysler
Thank You E Sanford!!
Exactly
Don't Lie
@Alfred Weber I've owned a 2000 Hyundai, a 2010 Hyundai, a 2018 Hyundai, and a 2009 KIA. Changed the oil every 4000 miles on all of them and never had to add ANY oil between changes to any of them.
It's actually cheaper and more reliable to take public transportation ☺️
Very nice job 👍👍👍👍👍!
Thank you, vry much for educating us, in details
This video freaked me out and I ran to check the oil level on my 2012 Mazda6 2.5 with 269,000kms for my very first time! The car hasn’t burnt a drop since the last oil change 9k ago! I honestly thought oil burning was a thing of the past… poor bastards.
I hope you changed the oil since then.
@@monkmchorning Full synthetic oil changes every 10,000kms on the dot without fail! The car still runs flawlessly while the dealership mourns my absence.
@@meyo1860 Misread. Kilometers, not miles. That's a horse of a different color.
Great info, thank you
Meanwhile, I've owned 3 cheap-ass Hyundais and 1 cheap-ass Kia and changed the oil every 4000 miles and never had to add any oil between changes on any of them. Come to think of it, I've never had to do much of anything to them. Should I buy a BMW next time, to impress my idiot neighbors?
@@Slavic_Boer Believe or disbelieve whatever you like . I'm just stating the facts of my experience with Hyundais and Kias. And I'm a retired auto tech with almost 40 years experience (including being a "BMW Certified Master Technician"), so I think I know a little bit about cars, at least how to check my oil.
Barry Ervin, negative on that BMW
I picked up an 08 kia rio5 manual Trans for $500 from an older neighbor that stopped driving. It sat for 2 years un driven. I put a battery in it and it fired right up. Changed the timing belt and all the fluids and it's a great little car. I bought it with the intention of doing a quick flip but it runs so good and is so cheap and easy to work on, I've decided to keep it.
@@barryervin8536
I own a 2009 Hyundai Genesis with the 3.8L V6, and my engine does not use ANY noticeable amount of oil in-between oil changes (according to the dipstick reading), but I only have 77K miles on it. I purchased the car new, and do all the oil changes myself with Mobil 1 Extended Protection 5W-30.
Did any of them need a quart of oil at regular oil change?
Just kidding. Gr8 stuff.
Subbed.
You missed the 2015,16,17 Volve S&V 60's with 2.0l T5 Turbo engines. Actually I think all the Volvo engines had oil consumption issuses. The oil rings are the issue getting clogged up. For all that have an issue with oil consumption with an otherwise good running engine try a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil next time you have to add a quart. You may not see an immediate reduction but you should some over the long term. My Volvo went from having to put a quart in every 400mi miles to over 1400mi. I'm hoping the number will continue increase.
2015.5 Volvo S60. Even though a service bulletin was issued, Volvo expects the owner to pay for new pistons and rings to be installed. Volvo used this SAME piston and ring design as in the previous years six cylinder engines in this video, so they knew. The car made it to 98,000 miles and was burning a quart every 400 miles. Yes, four hundred miles. First and last Volvo we will ever own.
We have a 2013 Kia Optima at 171,000 miles going through oil like crazy! Dealer says that’s “normal” due to it higher mileage 🤷♂️
My 2015 Kia Soul with the 2.0 GDI engine wasn’t Then at 90,000 miles it started
Then consistently burning a quart every 1000 miles
It destroyed my catalytic converter
Which wasn’t under the extended 15 year 150000 warranty
And Kia won’t repair or replace the engine
Last Kia I’ll ever buy
@@shawnellsworth7623 I never considered that burining oil would kill the catalytic converters until my own needed to be replaced after just 3 years. My car drinks oil, but pouring it in is cheaper than buying a new car.
My 2002 Toyota Corolla consumed much oil. It has to do with some seals that were cheaply made in the 2001and 2002 engines.
My 2002 Mitsubishi Lancer LS does not consume oil it currently has 145k miles on it.
My 03 Camry,3.0 V6 I've had this car for about a year now and it doesn't use or burn a drop of oil.the four cylinder models are oil burners, head gasket issues too.
@@davidcarder6364 that's great 👍 I have a 2003 Honda Element, same as yours uses absolutely no oil.
I have an old daily driver, a 2010 Dodge Avenger with 180k miles. It's just now beginning to use a little oil but not even a quart between changes. Maybe it's because I still change the oil/filter between 3k and 4k miles ??
My A5 3.2fsi 2008 drank 800ml of oil in 5000kms. I'm fine with that since the previous cars I've owned drank 1 litre every 500km
To be fair, my comment isn't about calling out my much enjoyed brand, Chrysler/dodge. That said, my wifes and my '04 Durango (5.7l V8) burns a qt every ~1k miles or so, but runs like a beast at 172k miles and rolling, and my '05 Sebring (2.4l i4) burns a qt every 1,500-2,000 miles with 151k miles on the odometer, but still a fun little sedan.
As these cars get older and see wear and tear, and some fun times, I don't expect them to be burn-free, but if it's fresh off the assembly line and less than 100k miles, it shouldn't go through more than a qt in 5k miles, just my opinion. :)
Kingswood7189, those things also burned gas. Lol
I was looking at the Equinox as a college car for my son but it's in too many of these videos... the Mazda3 hatchback seems to be the better choice
He'll love the Mazda 3! If he's into cars he'll understand why. They're reliable, practical, economical and fun to drive. Especially the manual, it's a great transmission.
Unfortunately, too many parents buy what they think are good vehicles for their children...but never really research the car or truck they are considering. This parent (Tim W.) is doing it right.
My nieces each got Hondas or Mazdas while in school. When they finally bought their own cars they bought what appealed to them, to their dissatisfaction.
Wow! NO Hyundais or KIAs on the list!!!!!!!!
thank you for the information
I drive a 07 mercury mariner and it just keeps running and looks nice to. But I’m not claiming all are like that
Scion 2008 XB well known issue...Toyota had a recall for years...
When they mentioned GMC, my late loving father popped in my mind. He warned me against them.
Cars were the best from 2001-2006
Naw, 80s
If you have a used ride and it ONLY uses one quart between changes, count yourself lucky. Aluminum blocks, aluminum heads, aluminum or alloy pistons, government regulations forcing quality sacrifice for fuel economy....you should expect even a new ride to use a little oil. A quart every 1k miles is ridiculous though on new or late model rides.
Now that sounds like Mary ....bless him
Stop
It I’ve owned 3 Audis all services on time all lasted 200,000 plus miles before I sold them off…. You mean don’t buy luxury cars if your are a simp that can’t do any simple work on your own car…. I don’t want to be in a Toyota or Honda cuz those cars are boring…. Give me some muscle and some speed….. give me passion….
I had a 2012 toyota venza 1 qt every 1000 miles. I traded it in got a 2019 hyundai tucson same problem.
Having same issue w my Tucson. Worst mistake buying this car. Should have bought a Toyota :(
You ought to buy a bicycle next time lady
I had a 2017 Hyundia Sonata with a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder. C
I have a 2011 BMW X5 twin turbo xdrive35i, it doesn't appear to use much oil, but I always seem to smell burnt oil. In fact when it sits for a while and I start it up you can see the oil burned smoke coming through the vents. Anybody have any ideas? I just drove it 2,000 miles to and from Texas it did not appear to use much oil but once the car is heated up and driving I don't smell that burn oil smell, maybe only very occasionally. It's when it sits for a while and you started up then you can smell that horrible burned oil smell.
Newer cars tend to consume more oil due to looser engine tolerances. Thinner oil just seeps by the piston rings
@@ShadowBannedagain it is the truth, especially with turbos. They have looser clearances to run more efficiently. Forced induction will push that thin oil through the piston rings. Catch cans are a must on newer shitty engines
How did you miss the Honda CR-V? More timing chains replaced due to low oil than any other car ever...
My 2012 civic si uses oil. I didnt buy it new but it was barely used and it's always had used oil.
This is mainly the cause of manufacturers trying to lower the internal friction inside an engine, so they fit piston rings with less spring pressure. These softer rings are the cause of all modern engines having consumption issues because they don't make a decent seal between the rings and the cylinder wall. In the search for better fuel mileage we are going backwards with sound engineering standards. 30 and 40 years ago cars would use negligible oil and were much more reliable.
Audious502 GTS ...?Piston ring gaps? ...Yeah, okay.
BMW 8 Cyl 750 oil burner
How come car manufacturing companies don't ask a Rocket Scientist how to built durable car engines???😱
Building to last isn`t that difficult, building economically and only as necessary is difficult.
They used to built engines and parts which could do +500.000km and then at one point they all pulled their old models from the scrapyard, disassembled everything and looked at it. Everything which was still in good condition but on a car which went to a scrapyard anyway was downgraded.
Add the pressure of competition and the ever more increasing pressure from your customer for a fuel efficient and inexpensive car, BUT with all the features and gimmicks a car has to have these days.
After warranty of 5-7 years its none of the manufacturers business, it`s only a used car out in the wild. They would gladly sell you a new one and everything older then 10 years is considered ancient anyway by most people these days. So they also don`t really care.
Because it’s not rocket science? 😂
Omg, I have to add a quart of oil every month to my 2010 GMC Acadia SLT AWD... such a headache 😮💨
A junky car all around
Better than every week bwhaha
Add the 2018 Subaru forester to that list...
Reason why, I would always go for Toyota !!!
We have a 09 Camry 4 cylinder that has always drank oil. One quart every 400 miles.
@@bug2011 been driving my aunt’s 97, before getting a 2011 . she bought her 97 in 2013. Never had issue , until a snow drift wreck . She still drives it up until this year.
Are all of these cars Post Great Recession? Looks like it.
Actually all the new and old GMC Terrain have the same issue
I'm good. I wouldn't ever want any of these vehicles to begin with.
Surprised Cadillac wasn’t on here.
Honda/acura vtec engines all burn oil. Had a 2001 acura gsr vtec burned 1-2 bottles every couple weeks. Had a 2010 crv ex-l with k24 vtec high output engine. Burned a bottle every couple weeks. Will never buy a honda again. Not even my 2001 chevy camaro nor my 2002 pontiac gtp supercharged burned a drop of oil!! My new 2014 camry did not burn a drop of oil sold it cause it was too boring. My old 2008 corolla s gas saver doesn’t burn a drop!!
Oil scmoil 🤷🏽♂️ Sometimes you can’t win em all
If you aren't checking your oil even on a brand new ride ONCE A WEEK you're asking for problems. Surely you have enough time to pop the hood and check the stick. It's not just the cars on this video. Chevy has a new 3 cylinder turbo engine. How long will it take to use up a 3 cylinder that runs at high rpm and heat ranges. GM is discontinuing the V6 3.6L engine which is a shame. Ford has already discontinued their V6 option in rides other than trucks. I have a 2015 Chevy Equinox, like the one on this video. BUT it has the 3.6L V6. NO oil burning, better power. It was a problem in the first couple years but by 2014 was likely the best domestic V6 on the market.
The Cadillac CTS burns oil
I guess they forgot to mention the CRV. Not surprised
Why change oil at all, f the motor is burning it ?
Maybe a new filter every five years or 50,000 miles.@ one quart every two-three weeks.
Volvo: Synthetic oil frequently should be changed every 7,500 - 10,000 miles. So 1 qt between 3750 miles and 5000 miles. OMG, the horror! and 25% of customers reported that. Are you a mechanic/Technician? And a hint, oil leaks like from the valve cover isn't oil burning.
Yes I have a 2011 and it's burn oil badly Chevy traverse
USA vehicles did pretty well.........USA USA.
@Kent Teffeteller Thanks Professor...How about USA designed?
Great american burns no oil, just dies at 100k or literally falls apart by 100k and cost a ton.
@@rt2255 ,except my daily driver. 1997 Dodge Intrepid with 367,000 km on it and guess what, the 3.3 L V6 DOES NOT BURN ANY OIL.
@@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386 my ex wife had one maintained perfect, trans died at 120k replaced, then spun rod bearing in engine at less than 200k junked it. In those yrs had replace starter water pump radiator alternator twice frond end work just over 100k, bought her camry like one i have now. 400k 1 alt 1 radiator, 1 02 sensor, everything else original like.mine at 350k
Yea I have an 2013 Audi Q7 I have to add a quart of oil between oil changes I just take it to the dealership & they just top it off they have the oil sitting there lol they know what’s going on
hows the overall reliability am looking to get a 2018 model one approved used
@@felixkimani7404 reliability is great I only replaced the air pump for the suspension cost around $550 everything else still good jus keep up on them oil changes $150/60
Well Mercedes, BMWs,and Audis are known to use oil from the get go. The Germans never tell you this.
I have an 88 Chevy Caprice with 305 with 140 000 miles and it doesn't burn this much oil
It's possible to choose carefully and do fine - at least I have so far, with a US Model 2014 Audi A5 2.0T (now 67,000 miles, engine code CPMB) and a 2017 Subaru Forester XT 2.0T (now 72,000 miles, FA20A engine). Both my cars consume virtually zero oil between 5,000 mile changes still today. Also, give Audi some credit for the electronic dipstick - it is a lot easier to push a button or two to see your oil level anytime you want, than pull and wipe a dipstick. I have done enough of my own science experimentation to have proved that the electronic dipstick can accurately register an oil loss of as little as one-quarter of one quart (8 fl. oz.). And I believe if you hit the oil's "minimum" mark the car will alert you automatically, you don't have to seek a check. As for Subaru, dipstick-checking technique has to be careful - you cannot get an accurate reading without first extracting the stick, wiping it off, and reinserting it. Level ground is essential. The video also glosses over a very major change in Subaru engines which happened in the early 2010s decade for various models - the change from 'EJ" engines to "FA" and "FB" engines. (you can see the engine type on the car's door-jamb data plate). The EJ engine is the main source of the head-gasket talk, while the Fs are the main source of the oil consumption talk. So either type can present an issue, but be very sure that your mechanic knows which is which.
Thats a lot of good info Mark. Do you know when is the best time to check the oil? when its cold and sitting for a while or run the engine for a minute then check it?
@@frankd9015 I'd say the important thing is to be consistent - no matter when you check the oil, if you see it staying the same, you know you don't have much consumption and you're fine. And as long as you let the oil drain for more than a few minutes, and you wipe the dipstick off carefully, all my cars have always been quite consistent between hot and cold, parked or recently running. Also - make sure you use level ground, or at least always the same location pointing the same direction.
My 2007 #Dodge #GrandCaravan SXT with the 3.8L V6 used up a quart of #oil every 1 thousand miles when purchased in 2009 with 73 thousand miles, #Mopar say's this is normal......#ThinkNot!
Vw jetta i bought 3 modela 2011. 2012 it burn 1 lt every 4000 miles
You forget the worst car oil consumption
Toyota Camry has very bad oil burning and very bad reviews
Models to avoid: Toyota Camry 2007 to 2010 included hybrid.
A Toyota Ad shows up before this vid plays!
😂😂😂😂😂
Toyota is my #1 dream brand. Since I cannot afford a car later than 2010, which I can land the right running Yaris of 2009 or 10. Or Camry of same time frame with sunroof.
When is the best time to buy a BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar? When they're new, under warranty and you can afford to buy them and don't mind the HUGE depreciation when you get rid of it. NEVER buy a used one, any of them, unless you have a truck load of money to spend on repairs.
crazy !1 quart is nearly 1 litre of oil ..
Oil burner 2008 Jeep Wrangler
heed the warning or live with the headache the choice is yours
My wife burns oil when she's frying the chicken
About VAG and BMW engines thats no news at all....Subaru pre 2010 2.0 turbo engine with some proper maintenance can last for more than 200k miles...unfortunately I had to sacrifice my hard earned cash to acquire the knowledge and experience.....T6 Volvo engines are utterly rubish
No Chrysler products on the list 👍
It says used cars over 10 years old. Chrysler don’t last that long. 😂
Sad for Volvo, the I-5 motor was a brick
In specs with these engines. Money pit.
Expensive cars = Expensive parts & Repairs
Toyota cars are the boss
Toyotas have problems too but youtubers all sucking on the toy juice ignore it but quick to notice few issues on other car manufacturers. My advice drive what you love and run it until the wheels falls off.
Upside is car always has fresh clean oil lol