You can also use a dab of hot glue on the end of the type a (7:27) cable. When you want to remove it you can use a little bit of isopropyl alcohol. Great video!
Yep, especially the other end seemed vulnerable to shorting after prolonged (ab)use. Thanks for the tip on removal haha, didn't know this before. It will come in damn handy in the future.
Just a tip when preparing the cable 1) First, prepare the USB connectors 2) Strip the outer sleeve 3) Feed the cable through the USB case 4) now separated the pairs 5) cut the pairs to required length Doing it this way makes threading the cable into the case easier and you can identify each pair easier before cutting to length ready for soldering
Just a correction: On the second end it's not a type-B connector, but a type A receptacle. The type B is the square one you often find in printers and other large devices. Nice video regardless
The majority of printers use a type-A to type-B cable, type-A for the computer, type-B for the printer side Easy as that, just search online for a printer cable Btw, the creator of the video used a female USB-A port, not USB-B
you know what's even better? scrap shielded pair!. you can attach the shield to the USB shell and this way you'll get lower interference. cheap USB cables usually have no shielding at all where a good ones have
Up to 15 meters can be achieved with the following configuration: Orange-Orange White -> Positive Vcc Green White -> Data Negative Green -> Data Positive Blue-Blue White -> Negative Vcc Brown-Brown White -> Metal covering the port
Are these colors because of the twists per inch? is it because of the separate pairs for voltage and ground? Is it because of the separate shield pair? Please explain how this increases the length of the cable.
@@jolex_nerd8132 Twisted pair is only needed for data, the rest are doubled to reduce the electrical resistance of the cable. The quadruple negative polarity prevents interference. If you don't double it, you can only achieve a maximum of 7 meters.
I mean its a weird use case, but I can see it working to make connections for a KVM i guess. USB 2.0 goes up to 480mpbs, 50% slower than a gigabit connection and Power Over Ethernet might be way better either way. But if you found a way to do Power Delivery over this usb, that would be a massive upgrade. Either way, great idea!
Hey, heads up, as someone has dig pretty deep into some ethernet cables, pls make sure that your cable is solid core or stranded solid copper and not CCA, because power over CCA is pretty damn dangerous, and signal integrity is horrible too!
Brother thank you. I have been looking ev here on how to extend a usb for a camera. N I have all this Cat5e laying around you are one of the few who didn’t say. Go buy a bigger cable. Duh!! So liked and subbed. Ty ty
Great idea! I’d just suggest anyone trying this to use solder flush. It really makes life easier.
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Usb and ethernet differential pairs have different nominal characteristic impedance (90 and 100 ohm respectively), but it should work, since thy are in each other tolerance range.
Using a shielded variant if the CAT-5e cable, and mounting the shield to the usb connectors casing, can further improve in shielding the signal from outside interference.
I have tried this with usb 3.0 with little succes. We made rj45 adapters for both ends, and we also made use of the twisted pairs. It does work for cables under 20 cm, but any longer did not work at all. We tried various cables, some with improved shielding, but it did not improve. After some reading, we found out this is due to signal integrity in usb 3.0, and that the cable should follow very strict requirements in order to work. Do not attempt, it is not worth the trouble
Can this method be used to connect a xbox one/ps4 controller in a 15m run from said xbox one/ps4 to another room?. Ive ran a 15m hdmi run in the same direction for satellite tv. Thought why not try using my roll of ethernet creating a usb run to control my Xbox or ps4 connected to that HDMI run. Thanks
Wow this is very useful for stuff which has a super short cable and for beginners and also since you made the ground and the 5v+ with two wires together it's super strong and works perfectly, thank you so much my friend, and could you please make a video about almost the same thing but with the other end use a micro plug (exactly a great DIY USB charging cable) cause a lot of people tried and failed cause they only connected the ground and the 5v+ they didn't soldier the data +and- together during their work, and thank you anyways you don't have to do it but thank you both ways my friend I literally IN LOVE with such stuff anything electric or electronic so I love your channel you make anything looks so simple thanks man also i love your soldiering gun (it's not a gun shaped I know but...... 😂I don't know what its called, ironer or something like that i don't know however I love it) Aw and please please could you make an another video about how to make a DIY small ironer tip from a piece of copper wire or the best material you've worked with, cause most of soldiering guns or ironers comes with a big ceramic tips and they're not fit to work with mobile's boards and not the best, we want one which can work with complicated electronics and narrow soldiering spaces so yeah i will be super thankful if you make it and also thank you anyways & sorry for this long comment 😅
have you tested max length, would it work for usb 2.0 with 10utp? and what are symptoms of cable being too long, will data corrupt or will speeed just drop, thanks
Up to 15 meters can be achieved with the following configuration: Orange-Orange White -> Positive Green White -> Data- Green -> Data+ Blue-Blue White -> Negative Brown-Brown White -> Metal covering the port
did it work with no external power supply over such distance ? i want to use smartphone as modem for 4g internet connection. from phone to computer is 50 meters distance and i would like to charge phone and tether internet connection over same usb cable. i wonder if it would work over such long distance
The meter markings on the ethernet cable are deceptive. I bought d-link cat 6 cable. Upon measuring with a tape it turned out to be only 80cm per meter marking.
never seen such a case in my entire career. Cable is sold in 305 meter reels which are used in hundreds for big installations. if they were 80% from needed the producing company would be bankrupt almost instantly after going to market from the legal fines they would way every integrator company su 12:35 12:35 12:35 ing it.
@@Dingleberry1856 yes, if there are no links shorter than that. but they are not thrown away but collected and either delivering to the customer along with the full installation or taken with them to account at own storage. sometimes may be sold through own shops
is there an advantage to use TWO twisted pairs for data? so that the data line will have bigger overall copper area and less voltage drop? im talking devices that are notoriously hard to connect with long leads for example webcam set to max datarate etc. thx for the video btw
I think it's mostly about passing high frequency, not voltage drop. If you need an extra long line, you should use a cable with better shielding, e.g. FTP cat 6 cable.
I purchased a USB extender set of adapters (which turn male USB into RJ45 interface so I can use up to 150ft of cat5/6/7 cable and on the other end rj45 interface back to USB female) which didn't work at all for me. Doing what you've shown here worked PERFECTLY!!!!!!! I''m thanking Father GOD and His Father, Jesus Christ for your excellent solution of a video!!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!! There is a video screen which I have to center content on and it was extremely difficult but this allows me to walk outside with a keyboard and your usb extender cable and easily center the content from there... a shame I don't know of a way to do this so the screen stays permanently where I put it but I've yet to find software that allows for this...
did it work with no external power supply over such distance ? i want to use smartphone as modem for 4g internet connection. from phone to computer is 50 meters distance and i would like to charge phone and tether internet connection over same usb cable. i wonder if it would work over such long distance
Shielded ethernet cable can also cause issues when using those kind adapters. I had connection problems before both of ethernet cable shield ends had connected to both of USB connectors cases. 10 meter cable here.
@@kakalys This is very likely a BS story or someone how is VERY lucky to have it work over such distance. USB spec says 5m for USB 2 and 2-3m for USB 3 gen 1 recommendation. Anything above is not guaranteed to work. 150ft (45m) is WAY beyond spec. Not saying it *can't* work, but I am very, *very* sceptical that this works or will keep working.
If you use CAT5 UTP cable it can be up to 15 meters. But it also depends on the USB device. Power greedy devices may not work because the cable is too long and a voltage drop occurs on the +5v line.
HAve you tried with an actual device? I remember having issues when I wanted to plug a 360 pad over a USB extender, and these bad boys DO have extra wire which would probably become an issue on a large extender!
USB Spec says 5m for USB 2. USB 3.0 and 3.1 Gen 1 cables don’t have an official maximum length, but their recommended maximum is around 2-3 meters. Anything beyond that is *NOT* guaranteed to work but *could* work.
DO NOT USE EXTENDERS FOR USB-C CABLES. NOT ALL CABLES ARE THE SAME AND SOME EVEN HAVE ACTIVE COMPONENTS. Mostly just don't use them for power, only data.
@RonMattino I made something similar back in the day when iphone wasn't even out yet. I found that because of the long cord, the resistance went way up and it would charge slow as. :( Will this slow down data transfers or have much of an affect on new phones?
Not really. If it can detect the USB device, it will work as it should. If device is not detected, it won't work at all. There isn't a 3rd option here. Did you use twisted pair in your cable that you mention?
If you do as you do, using USB 3.0 will be more reasonable because you only need to solder 8 pins to connect 3.0 (remove the GND_DRAIN pin). Of course it is backward compatible with 2.0
Good video. however, even 2 single cat 5 wires are much thicker than any usb cables power wires, and they are copper. ven if it was 20 meters its more than enough to carry the voltage and current, if anything doubling them up might be detrimental as the lengh gets greater. more resistance nothing gained. maybe even more interfierence, due to the cables twist being designed a certain way. Most of the time, its not the power thats an issue with extending, its the data. reading a USB is very different to running for example a camera.
Wrong you can't just do that the data transfer will be slow and other devices will not accept less than 5v with that cable's resistance the voltage drop is the case bad idea 💡
@ Until now I don 't recall seeing the part in the title that says 7 meters long. I'm also American and so my brain could have thinking imperial standard. That said, I have an old security cam that is POE an never had the original (if there actually was one) power supply so I bought a TP Link POE switch that in the instructions mentions "Long-Range POE....reaches up to 250 m..." I'm assuming that is 250 meters. Either way, without it being switched to Extended Mode the camera works perfect on a 50 foot cable. It is the only POE device on the switch that gets power so I believe that 67w is available to it. Otherwise, if I'm reading correctly, that 67w is divided among the 4 if 4 devices are drawing power. Still seems like 7 meters wouldn't be too long, but I'm just learning about this stuff so I have no problem admitting I could be wrong and gladly accept valid corrections.
You can also use a dab of hot glue on the end of the type a (7:27) cable. When you want to remove it you can use a little bit of isopropyl alcohol. Great video!
Yep, especially the other end seemed vulnerable to shorting after prolonged (ab)use. Thanks for the tip on removal haha, didn't know this before. It will come in damn handy in the future.
@@ibendiben yeah hot glue is near impossible to remove without isopropyl alcohol. It just gives up when it's drunk lol.
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Just a tip when preparing the cable
1) First, prepare the USB connectors
2) Strip the outer sleeve
3) Feed the cable through the USB case
4) now separated the pairs
5) cut the pairs to required length
Doing it this way makes threading the cable into the case easier and you can identify each pair easier before cutting to length ready for soldering
Just a correction: On the second end it's not a type-B connector, but a type A receptacle. The type B is the square one you often find in printers and other large devices. Nice video regardless
Incorrect. Type A is the printer.
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The majority of printers use a type-A to type-B cable, type-A for the computer, type-B for the printer side
Easy as that, just search online for a printer cable
Btw, the creator of the video used a female USB-A port, not USB-B
you know what's even better? scrap shielded pair!. you can attach the shield to the USB shell and this way you'll get lower interference. cheap USB cables usually have no shielding at all where a good ones have
Exactly. You can use FTP instead of UTP and it'll work even better.
This may be very useful when using SDRs. You can have your dongle next to your antenna and then just run the long usb cable to the computer.
Up to 15 meters can be achieved with the following configuration:
Orange-Orange White -> Positive Vcc
Green White -> Data Negative
Green -> Data Positive
Blue-Blue White -> Negative Vcc
Brown-Brown White -> Metal covering the port
Are these colors because of the twists per inch? is it because of the separate pairs for voltage and ground? Is it because of the separate shield pair? Please explain how this increases the length of the cable.
@@jolex_nerd8132 Twisted pair is only needed for data, the rest are doubled to reduce the electrical resistance of the cable. The quadruple negative polarity prevents interference. If you don't double it, you can only achieve a maximum of 7 meters.
What is the wire guage that you used to achieve 15m?
@@lawrencechong8997 I used UTP 5e Standard
I mean its a weird use case, but I can see it working to make connections for a KVM i guess.
USB 2.0 goes up to 480mpbs, 50% slower than a gigabit connection and Power Over Ethernet might be way better either way.
But if you found a way to do Power Delivery over this usb, that would be a massive upgrade.
Either way, great idea!
POE is better, absolutely, but not all devices support Ethernet. Some are still USB. :)
Hey, heads up, as someone has dig pretty deep into some ethernet cables, pls make sure that your cable is solid core or stranded solid copper and not CCA, because power over CCA is pretty damn dangerous, and signal integrity is horrible too!
Why didn't I think of this before? Thanks, it's an awesome tip.
Brother thank you. I have been looking ev here on how to extend a usb for a camera. N I have all this Cat5e laying around you are one of the few who didn’t say. Go buy a bigger cable. Duh!! So liked and subbed. Ty ty
Huh. I used this for signalling between the two halves of a keyboard but it never occurred to me to use my huge drum of CAT6 cable for USB. Thanks!
Great idea! I’d just suggest anyone trying this to use solder flush. It really makes life easier.
Usb and ethernet differential pairs have different nominal characteristic impedance (90 and 100 ohm respectively), but it should work, since thy are in each other tolerance range.
Quite useful, good idea to take advantage of this type of cable and useful tips for soldering. Thanks a lot.
Using a shielded variant if the CAT-5e cable, and mounting the shield to the usb connectors casing, can further improve in shielding the signal from outside interference.
Yes, the cable can run as long as 15m then, true.
I have tried this with usb 3.0 with little succes. We made rj45 adapters for both ends, and we also made use of the twisted pairs. It does work for cables under 20 cm, but any longer did not work at all. We tried various cables, some with improved shielding, but it did not improve. After some reading, we found out this is due to signal integrity in usb 3.0, and that the cable should follow very strict requirements in order to work. Do not attempt, it is not worth the trouble
Usb 3 uses in total 9 cables you can use the 7 data wires
and get the vcc and ground from a seperate suply
Did you tried it with a cat7 cable?
Can this method be used to connect a xbox one/ps4 controller in a 15m run from said xbox one/ps4 to another room?. Ive ran a 15m hdmi run in the same direction for satellite tv. Thought why not try using my roll of ethernet creating a usb run to control my Xbox or ps4 connected to that HDMI run. Thanks
For 15m I would use CAT6 FTP cable.
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Wow this is very useful for stuff which has a super short cable and for beginners and also since you made the ground and the 5v+ with two wires together it's super strong and works perfectly, thank you so much my friend, and could you please make a video about almost the same thing but with the other end use a micro plug (exactly a great DIY USB charging cable) cause a lot of people tried and failed cause they only connected the ground and the 5v+ they didn't soldier the data +and- together during their work, and thank you anyways you don't have to do it but thank you both ways my friend I literally IN LOVE with such stuff anything electric or electronic so I love your channel you make anything looks so simple thanks man also i love your soldiering gun (it's not a gun shaped I know but...... 😂I don't know what its called, ironer or something like that i don't know however I love it) Aw and please please could you make an another video about how to make a DIY small ironer tip from a piece of copper wire or the best material you've worked with, cause most of soldiering guns or ironers comes with a big ceramic tips and they're not fit to work with mobile's boards and not the best, we want one which can work with complicated electronics and narrow soldiering spaces so yeah i will be super thankful if you make it and also thank you anyways & sorry for this long comment 😅
have you tested max length, would it work for usb 2.0 with 10utp? and what are symptoms of cable being too long, will data corrupt or will speeed just drop, thanks
Up to 15 meters can be achieved with the following configuration:
Orange-Orange White -> Positive
Green White -> Data-
Green -> Data+
Blue-Blue White -> Negative
Brown-Brown White -> Metal covering the port
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9:57 so funny, nice to see you trimmed that lil green bit off the bottom corner hahaha
did it work with no external power supply over such distance ? i want to use smartphone as modem for 4g internet connection. from phone to computer is 50 meters distance and i would like to charge phone and tether internet connection over same usb cable. i wonder if it would work over such long distance
So how many USB-Acan I put on a cat six shielded cable?
your voice is relaxing 🗿
What is we make ethernet RJ45 connector at other end
11:50 the signal lines looked like they were touching
O.M.G!!! thaccum like tripel redundancyyy!!!!!! for gnd and 5v!!!
Can I use rj45 on the B side and female usb for usb type wifi card?
u can add a capacitor to reserve the power for long distance just in case the DC volt drop over a long cable.
test the data rate
Can we interchange the position of Green Wire with Green+White Wire ?
This can be used in wifi adapter ?🤔🤔🤔
Great video.
I really enjoyed 👍
Is it work as extension for mobile charging cable? I mean is it enough for delivery the power from the charger to mobile?
Thanks for useful video can i use this for connecting router and laptop.
The meter markings on the ethernet cable are deceptive. I bought d-link cat 6 cable. Upon measuring with a tape it turned out to be only 80cm per meter marking.
never seen such a case in my entire career. Cable is sold in 305 meter reels which are used in hundreds for big installations. if they were 80% from needed the producing company would be bankrupt almost instantly after going to market from the legal fines they would way every integrator company su 12:35 12:35 12:35 ing it.
@@NuttyGeek how would the company know? They throw away the reels with 61 meters left on the reel.
@@Dingleberry1856 yes, if there are no links shorter than that. but they are not thrown away but collected and either delivering to the customer along with the full installation or taken with them to account at own storage. sometimes may be sold through own shops
mine has a outer layer of cable, it connects to the usb outer shell, its different from the four prongs.
Great video! Really cool!
Thank you so much brother
is there an advantage to use TWO twisted pairs for data? so that the data line will have bigger overall copper area and less voltage drop? im talking devices that are notoriously hard to connect with long leads for example webcam set to max datarate etc. thx for the video btw
I think it's mostly about passing high frequency, not voltage drop. If you need an extra long line, you should use a cable with better shielding, e.g. FTP cat 6 cable.
I purchased a USB extender set of adapters (which turn male USB into RJ45 interface so I can use up to 150ft of cat5/6/7 cable and on the other end rj45 interface back to USB female) which didn't work at all for me. Doing what you've shown here worked PERFECTLY!!!!!!!
I''m thanking Father GOD and His Father, Jesus Christ for your excellent solution of a video!!!!!!
Thank you so much!!!!!
There is a video screen which I have to center content on and it was extremely difficult but this allows me to walk outside with a keyboard and your usb extender cable and easily center the content from there... a shame I don't know of a way to do this so the screen stays permanently where I put it but I've yet to find software that allows for this...
did it work with no external power supply over such distance ? i want to use smartphone as modem for 4g internet connection. from phone to computer is 50 meters distance and i would like to charge phone and tether internet connection over same usb cable. i wonder if it would work over such long distance
Shielded ethernet cable can also cause issues when using those kind adapters. I had connection problems before both of ethernet cable shield ends had connected to both of USB connectors cases. 10 meter cable here.
@@kakalys This is very likely a BS story or someone how is VERY lucky to have it work over such distance. USB spec says 5m for USB 2 and 2-3m for USB 3 gen 1 recommendation. Anything above is not guaranteed to work. 150ft (45m) is WAY beyond spec. Not saying it *can't* work, but I am very, *very* sceptical that this works or will keep working.
Can you do it USB to Lan?
i would like to know the maximum distance using this method
If you use CAT5 UTP cable it can be up to 15 meters. But it also depends on the USB device. Power greedy devices may not work because the cable is too long and a voltage drop occurs on the +5v line.
I had to look for days on UA-cam to find out a cheep solution to my cable problem. Is it possible to run 1 USB to 2 usb C's with this method?
All I can say, so far it won't work for USB3, unless you want to use the Type-C connection for USB2.0.
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No mention of other USB types?
well, USB 2 has 2 data lines and 2 power lines. USB 3 added 5 more data lines, so 9 in total. since cat6 has 8 conductors in it, no way
HAve you tried with an actual device? I remember having issues when I wanted to plug a 360 pad over a USB extender, and these bad boys DO have extra wire which would probably become an issue on a large extender!
D+ and D- should not be placed in the same twisted pair but paired with a GND.
Never slice the cable there is a string inside you pull to strip the sheathing off .....
USB and Ethernet share the same twisted cable transmission standard because USB can tether hotspot data using the Ethernet protocol.
They share the same hardware standard. USB tethering is something else. :)
How many meters do you think you could have it? 20m?
USB Spec says 5m for USB 2. USB 3.0 and 3.1 Gen 1 cables don’t have an official maximum length, but their recommended maximum is around 2-3 meters. Anything beyond that is *NOT* guaranteed to work but *could* work.
Isn't it bad to use twisted pairs for current? Won't it act as a coil and consume energy?
It's DC, so it won't act as a coil.
DO NOT USE EXTENDERS FOR USB-C CABLES.
NOT ALL CABLES ARE THE SAME AND SOME EVEN HAVE ACTIVE COMPONENTS.
Mostly just don't use them for power, only data.
@RonMattino I made something similar back in the day when iphone wasn't even out yet. I found that because of the long cord, the resistance went way up and it would charge slow as. :(
Will this slow down data transfers or have much of an affect on new phones?
Not really. If it can detect the USB device, it will work as it should. If device is not detected, it won't work at all. There isn't a 3rd option here. Did you use twisted pair in your cable that you mention?
can extend the wire into 15 meters?
With the FTP cable it works up to 10 meters, not sure about 15.
Great job.
If you do as you do, using USB 3.0 will be more reasonable because you only need to solder 8 pins to connect 3.0 (remove the GND_DRAIN pin).
Of course it is backward compatible with 2.0
I refer from this page: wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0
How about a usb speed test. Can this be done with USB 3.0, or does that require more wires?
Yes, USB 3.0 has more wires, actually two more twisted pairs. But 90% devices today still use the 2.0 standard.
@@RonMattino most 3.0 devices also fall backs to 2.0 but run slower
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Solid wires cables could break after long time use vs Stranded
Hmm ethernet cable could also handle usb 3.0 since its extra 4 data pins
Very nice
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А что по скорости?;)
Thank bro
most of the Ethernet cables now a days don't have copper inside them usually the cheaper ones
I thought he would try to make the usb to Ethernet adapter😂
Great video, thank you!
could you not just... stitch the wires together? no need for solder or other such?
Yea u could, it may lose connection sometimes
Good video. however, even 2 single cat 5 wires are much thicker than any usb cables power wires, and they are copper. ven if it was 20 meters its more than enough to carry the voltage and current, if anything doubling them up might be detrimental as the lengh gets greater. more resistance nothing gained. maybe even more interfierence, due to the cables twist being designed a certain way. Most of the time, its not the power thats an issue with extending, its the data. reading a USB is very different to running for example a camera.
But, I need a connection between usb to ethernet,
But here u r just replaced a wire with a lengthy one😊
Wrong you can't just do that the data transfer will be slow and other devices will not accept less than 5v with that cable's resistance the voltage drop is the case bad idea 💡
Use this trick to extend keyboard and mouse !
Power is not going this far. The power should be supllied at the end with the device externallyy
Then what good is POE (Power Over Ethernet)? It's been a thing for a while now.
@@MrSpaz12 POE minimizing the losses by using higher voltage like 44-57v
No need to. Most USB devices consume 500ma at most. Won't work with USB hard drives probably. :)
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Until now I don 't recall seeing the part in the title that says 7 meters long. I'm also American and so my brain could have thinking imperial standard. That said, I have an old security cam that is POE an never had the original (if there actually was one) power supply so I bought a TP Link POE switch that in the instructions mentions "Long-Range POE....reaches up to 250 m..." I'm assuming that is 250 meters. Either way, without it being switched to Extended Mode the camera works perfect on a 50 foot cable. It is the only POE device on the switch that gets power so I believe that 67w is available to it. Otherwise, if I'm reading correctly, that 67w is divided among the 4 if 4 devices are drawing power. Still seems like 7 meters wouldn't be too long, but I'm just learning about this stuff so I have no problem admitting I could be wrong and gladly accept valid corrections.
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for this basic work , you made a 14 mins video ? it should not have been a 5 mins video
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Only thing that I didn't understand is why you used ethernet cable. You need 4 cable et the end. 🙄🤔
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