I friend of mine and I did a roll roofing job for my dad on and old rental dwelling in the rear of his former residence property here in SE Louisiana. It was very affordable and served the purpose for at least 15 years. It did have that mild slope you speak of. My dad made his Beer, Bread and Egg money from that little "Shack" in his retirement years.
@@rsz90182 Do you really need an explanation? And the list of things they fucked up is so long it can't be addressed in a comment. You would need another full length video. But for starters, in just the first 30 seconds, any time you install a roof over an existing roof you are doing it wrong.
You give a warranty on that work? Been roofing all my life, that is a easy roof to install,that's facts,,it's just not the best flat roof system to install on that building,it's one of the worst in my opinion..tpo,,epmd,even hot tar is better than that peel in stick...with that roof having walls going down both sides like that & all the penitrations coming through the roof,I would of went with epdm or tpo just my opinion,,using a sealant for flashing is only temporary...
I agree with Steven Gee. Also, you should NEVER run ur base seams within a minimum of 8 inches from ur cap seams. He is pretty much right on top of the base seams. That ruins the whole point/value of having a 2 plied roof. Now it’s basically just really thick single plied roof. JOKE!
I'm a certified flat roofer EPDM TPO cold process as well as slope roofs , most common repair i have done on similar roof systems is seams and perimeter not adhering. if you want to do this system invest in the seam sealant. you could also do a seal coat over the existing roof for a similar price. EPDM is my preferred system.
Absolute clown 🤡, he is teaching people to throw away money with zero experience in the industry . I’m in tears watching this . If he worked for me he would last 15 minutes not a second more .
I have a bakery that I have patched the roof on for 25 years. Each year I got better. NOW I can put a new roof on because of your video. I watched most all of them. (No way my wife will go up there). This is my first comment ever. I have to let you know I appreciate your work.
I don't recommend you to do what you saw in this video unless existing roofing surface as sound as it is here and it's slope is a little bit steeper. The installers did not pay good enough attention to overlap seems, besides should use a heat- gun to weld together. I recommend you to find a roofer with experience and install a torch-down modified roof on your flat roof otherwise you can end up with more problems than you bargained for.
Great video.... I see 2 problems 1: you always have to cut your first run of S A base in half alway. To prevent a lap on lap Meaning when you run your cap sheet you're gonna have a lap on top of the other lap thats not good . Cutting your first run in half prevent this . 2 : You need to use an 80 pound roller . The roller is used to remove any air pockets that may be trapped in between the materials. In the summer when its hot the gasses starts to build up in the pockets causing the material bubble up or causing the material to separate in time .
Stepping on it and not pass the roll on it is the same thing and he also didn't use primer on the roof before he installed the base sheet some roofer call it glue
Nice to see a new video. And how about you pros, working a five gallon tar bucket with clean hands! I have a flat roof with a slight pitch, so I’ll stay tuned. Y’all make it look easy. Thanks from Michigan.
Ya he made a lot of mistakes that may come back to haunt him. But, Im a bonified roofer. I had my license. Retired now. All you wanna be's give him a break! You know this man put a lot of confidence in people who needed an answer to their roof issue. He made it look easy and very entertaining. You guys know dam well this roof may never leak. He did some things you called out right away without remembering that the rain was coming. How would you have sealed that edge? By torching it! Wrong! He did it right cuz he had to come back to it. Good job, Ol man.
@@AlloyedFrequencies you stated that he made a lot of mistakes and you didn't mention a single one and then you say way to go, which is it? Name those mistakes Educate us.
Sorry it was not a bad try for doing yourself but it was inproper installation. As a roofer for 25 year I'll tell you what you did wrong. Before you lay out the base you have to apply primer which some roofer call glue, the second thing you did wrong was when you installed the cap sheet you have to stagger it from the base so the laps don't land on the same spot you had to cut the first roll of cap down the middle but I would have cut was the base so I could start with a full roll of the cap the way you did it if one of the laps fail the lap underneath it could fail to because of the trapped water. I don't know where you live but if you get winter weather that will be an issue.
Your installation on the pipe is wrong you are supposed to install a cone over the pipe then put a piece of base down on the cone then put you cap on and it would be in 2 piece s so it wouldn't look like garbage you lay out a piece to pass the pipe cut around it the next piece 6 inch overlap the other way on the pipe and it's good to go and looks nice too and don't forget to use asphalt primer on the cone
Allsand is meant as a last resort of large pipes that they don't make cone inserts for not a wash room pipe and your wash room vent pipe you should have risen it up that cap comes off and you should have built it up with 2 layer of 2by4 and flash it in with your base and cap sheet it you live in an area where it snows you are going to have problems
I have been roofing for 25 years. That type of roof is not made to be installed over an existing roof without an ISO panel or clean sub. It also needs to be rolled down with an 80 lb roller to bond materials. It specifically tells you not to use torch or flame. You are supposed to use a hot air gun. Its not a torch down system. It will def be a problem
Ok truther that's your third worning I'm not going to write you up this time though looks like we're going to need you tomorrow but mostly it's forcuz I am no longer read and rite be cause this video break me mind not work
As they say, a little knowledge is dangerous. There are so many fatal errors in this roof installation, I lost count in the first five minutes. For starters, this is not a "rubber" roof, as he states. It as an asphalt-based "modified bitumen membrane. Second, it can sometimes be installed over existing roof systems, but cannot be installed over "anything", as he states. Beyond that, nearly every application instruction is incorrect. If this roof is watertight at all, it is sure to fail within a few years, max. Please do not take this person's roofing advice. People should stick to things they know!
You should leave it to a professional. It is never waterproof. And what your son did to the pipe hurts to watch. It's just a waste of materials. Good job
That underlay is awesome not seen that in UK. The only worry i have is if the old roof was leaking anywhere there could be rotten boards under your new cap felt? I would always recommend a re board and felt where possible, What do i know you are the flat roof god haha love your videos thanks for the refresh i have one on next week unfortunately with a leak which most likely will need new boards fitting.
I am in South Florida and this roof has to pass an inspection by a licensed roofing contractor to get insurance. While it looks simple, we do not know if this DIY approach will survive heavy winds, high heat, and torrential rains…sometimes all at the same time. I really wish it were this simple and affordable and appreciate the information, but the comments by roofers point out many potential problems with the installation.
In south Florida you're not allowed to put roll roofing over an existing roof layer. "TopShield Pro underlayment roofing systems membranes shall not be applied over an existing roof membrane."
@@jamescole3152 I don't need to show anything. I have been roofing all through the US. As a speacilst in government roofing. I don't need to prove a dam thing to you.
Why are you laying the runs across the roof? Why no lengthways? Plus, would it not be better to have done the flat roof first, then the parapets, to achieve proper weathering?
What causes the granules to come off a torch down roof like that? Have a 5 yrs old roof, has lost considerable granules, they clog the scupper box which requires us to clean it out 2x a year. We are going to have to silver coat soon otherwise the roof will be too exposed to UV. It's nuts for a roof to start failing that quickly but from talking to supply house, granules coming off is becoming more and more common
I had to scrole down the comments to, thanfully not far till i came to yours. I watched this bull S@@t till the end thinking that they would reveal the April fools joke. im also 43 years in the game and i have never seen anything like it. Do the people in the comments realise what this cowboy is doing?..its one thing to doing a fly job and running but unbelievable they would record it and put it on youtube!, and advise anyone this is the correct method for torch on or any aplication regarding flat roofs. Yor comment made my day because i was beggining to think im living in an alternate reality. Im from the school of three layers crossed in hot pitch on a PREPARED surface, that means strip off as well. This roof is a disaster but the only upside i can see is it gives the good guys more work. Im saddened for the clients who have no idea what costs are coming their way when this fails, and it will! thats the only guarantee this guy can give.
@@stevengee4562 as someone who knows nothing about roofs, what will fail about this? In the video he mentions he did the old roof on this building 20 years ago. Obviously it couldn't have leaked or he wouldn't have been rehired right?
Ya I have 23 years of commercial flat roofing my self I wouldn’t share a video of an install like that pretty scary to watch that will leak or blow away with in a couple years no recovery board existing roof not primed no wall flashing not supposed to torch SA plus not a big fan of SA it should stick pretty good or not be installed until warmer day plus all those wrinkles coming into seam he stepped down will pop back open when weather changes he seamed like a smart man just not knowledgeable with product or flat roofing all together maybe??
@@stevengee4562 I've done 1000s of meters with hot pot green mineral finish pasting over the laps so you can cut off the access bitumen which leaves a clean edge. Obviously you know what I'm talking about if you're old school 👍
This is wrong and guarantee it has issues. Why are you teaching people lies. Youre going to destroy homes and properties doing stuff like this. You didn't tear off because you save money only having your wife help. Good luck Dr.DOOM
Great video, i have a 3-12 pitch roof with shingles is this too steep; will the shingles and under lament need to be removed before applying this peal and stick base and top?
Can you please send me the name of your products to see what I can get her in Mexico for a house my mother has that they keep redoing every 3 years. Please
when you do a new installation of peel and stick its a 3 layer process versus 2 and it's just as effective as torch if done properly. If you a layover is just a bandaid youll be really surpised how many homes make it 15-20 more years with a band aid.
I think that's kind of the idea given the title of the video. It's the old saying in business... "you can have it fast, right or cheap... and u can only pick 2." This was fast and cheap, not necessarily "right" according to pro-roofers. BUT, for a homeowner w a bad leak who is desperate for a fast & inexpensive solution (that doesn't necessarily need to last 10 years) this video is semi-helpful. I don't even have $2 to spend per square foot so I'm totally screwed. Was considering using 4x8 coroplast boards ( only cuz i have like 100 sheets just sitting in my garage) to go over the current roof (glued down). Then i want to tape the seams with EPDM tape and coat the entire surface with expoxy resin. Then put on new perimeter flashing. I realize I'm going to create more issues but I'm stuck and SOMETHING must be done ASAP. Unless some roofers want to donate their labor AND materials, I'm on my own. Water is a sinister foe!
I enjoyed your video. Thank you for posting it. That said I have a couple of questions. I am about to venture into doing a roof in a commercial property of mine after I got quoted a ridiculous amount of money to either repair or install a new roof on a 4500 square feet roof top. On your video looks like to just put the new roof membranes atop the old roof. I was under the impression that the old membranes or old roof had to be removed? Please advice. Thank you very much . Sami
Now, what manufacturers would approve this hack method? You can do cheap work, like any other Home Depot contractor or you could actually do it right and give your customer a 20 year warranty.
Most counties of the USA allow a max of 2 layers to a flat roof (check with YOUR a county building Dept). After that you have to remove the old down to the plywood strata. Also, roofers comments indicate and 80 lb roller is needed to rollover the material.
I have a question about roofing, I have gotten several contractors over to give me estimate for replacement of the roof every last one wants to install edpm roof material over the current roof, ( old roof hot tar, last roof torch down bitumen) they all want to do only third roof of edpm . Why? Why won’t anyone remove the old roof fix the old Douglas Fir t&g decking and torch down two layers over fire resistant paper? Your demonstration of this project video is showing proof of why they don’t want to do any roof removal and repair. They can complete the entire job in one day. No old material to dispose of. No complicated process. Minor torch around the edges. Maximum return on their time. My flat roof is pitched both sides to the middle and a scupper with a drain pipe in the center. Where can I obtain the materials from your video? I’m not about to do the work myself but it’s possible with some help to complete the project in a day and complete the flashing process without worrying about complicated step flashing or anything else. Thank you.
EPDM is the worst type of roofing material do have on a roof. You are correct in all the other points. You can hire a few handy guys and have then do your roof with little cost. No need to strip the old roof.
Sometimes Home Depot will carry the Liberty Brand od Peel and Stick. But any roofing supply place carry this material. Beacon Building Supply, ABC Roofing Supply or any other local roofing supply place. The Brand does not really matter.
Reject those bids and keep requiring your specifications only ! Many regions of the country have bad contractors ! Break down the roof work scope into, tear down demo, roof repairs if any then actual new roof area if any ! Doc is right you can re-layer if needed ! Keep calling for free and sane estimates only ! Good handymen with insurance bond can do small if needed !
Do u have a list of everything u used and where u possibly bought everything u used. I live in Pennsylvania and am not sure where to buy everything we need and need to know how to extend our roof out to add gutters to our lower deck
Materials and Labor ! for roofs with complete tear outs and new roof can be 3x materials $5K will get you $15K final ! Always always get many bidders and learn from the bids !
Great video Roof Doctor. you have inspired me to fix my mobile home roof. I was wondering if I could buy a few minutes of your time for a video call or phone call to let you see my situation and recommend what approach to take, be it peel and stick, torch down or some other kind of approach.
What is cashier over the rubber? Water shield ? I'm in WI shop Nenards. Trying do mobile home addition with flat roof. How do I get rubber roll up on roof by myself?
I’m a commercial roofer. Have roofed some of the highest profile roofs on Earth. This guy’s a hack. So much hackery I legitimately don’t know where to begin.
@@primeworld1830 when you’re putting down a multi-million dollar roof on a hospital or a new skyscraper, there’s minimal hackery- people don’t get paid, warranties don’t get issued, if there’s any, so anything not to par is getting rectified.
Uh oh god forbids someone gets the job done for cheaper, as long my roof dont leak I'm good with it. This guy just embarrassed a whole industry really. He just laid down a great roof with just him and his wife and it didn't cost him 10 billion dollars....what lol
This looks like a potentially AWESOME product. Clearly it has ease of APPLICATION. Next test is PERFORMANCE (i.e., no leaks) and then LONGEVITY. (Those are the three test and the final TEST or issue is PRICE.) $2 psf is very tolerable if the performance is good and the longevity is long.
As a 35 year roofer I have never seen such a thing in my life. But I am not a fan of recovering any roof. Any one who has tore off two or more layer's of roofing know's what is going on with the roof under the top one. Old roof continues to decompose, witch takes away from the life of the new installed roof. Even if a recover board it put down. And at min and install some one way vaper vents, so hot condensated air can escape.
Why did you stop using the UV silver coating on the Polyseal? Not necessary anymore or is it a cosmetic finishing for white roofs? Thanks for the entertaining videos.
We are planning to go back and do another video on the flashing part in a few weeks and that is when we will apply the silver coating. Good observation. Cheers
Please do not put a self adhered modified roof on like this guy. Anyone who has ever put stickers on anything knows it needs to be clean and smooth. Even roofover he could of screwed down a insulation board. The roof runs up the wall a few inches, base and cap. Then you hang a wall flashing. Why am i telling you folks what the instructions and pictures on the package say. Just read them. I am 3rd generation 38 year commercial flatroofer. If you got any questions just ask. This is not the way.
Turbo poly seal is $200 per gallon you have a 5-gallon bucket there that means you paid $1,000 for a bucket My customers won't pay me spend money like that
Was this the video which began with $6000+ bill for materials? So if labor costs are charged according to book estimating manuel, how much labor wage does roof owner pay?
Absolutely one of the worst roof installations I have seen in my 52 years of built up roofing. The entire roof should have been primed before installing the base. This roof will now blister, and start leaking 15 years before the end of its serviceable life. The flashings will ALL leak in the next 5 years. Watch some Manufacturer's videos to learn the proper methods.(GAF, Polyglas)
"We didn't use base because we were in a hurry" are you kidding me? These guys are showing 4 different applications without doing any of them properly. Absolutely do not follow any of this guys money saving tips because when it leaks your not only going to rip off twice as much crap but your insulation ceiling drywall and flooring will be in need of repair also. Go watch 50 other videos but don't watch or follow anything from this hack job. "Cheapest roof" is going to be the one that doesn't leak for 50 years!
Hey, my question is what self adhering material would you use over torch down gutters on a home? I have one corner that leaks, but almost 30 years old & going strong.
Yes but there is a speciality trowel and a 7 gallon bucket of Elmer's glue sold by a second company but you have to be a preferred contractor licensed and insured
What great honor his son brings to his dad! Beautiful! God bless you and yours!
My man is killing all the capitalist roofing cos. Good Job Flat Roof Doctor👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I friend of mine and I did a roll roofing job for my dad on and old rental dwelling in the rear of his former residence property here in SE Louisiana. It was very affordable and served the purpose for at least 15 years. It did have that mild slope you speak of. My dad made his Beer, Bread and Egg money from that little "Shack" in his retirement years.
Great video. I just need a wife who will go up there because mine wont!!! 😁
People who work together,....................stay together. Great work!!! Excellent content! Thank you!
This is like a master class in how NOT to install a roof...
I so agree! But they will call us haters. I don't know what kind of Dr. he is, but surly not a roof Dr.
Not haters, just jealous couch potatoes without any explanations.
@@rsz90182 Do you really need an explanation? And the list of things they fucked up is so long it can't be addressed in a comment. You would need another full length video. But for starters, in just the first 30 seconds, any time you install a roof over an existing roof you are doing it wrong.
You give a warranty on that work? Been roofing all my life, that is a easy roof to install,that's facts,,it's just not the best flat roof system to install on that building,it's one of the worst in my opinion..tpo,,epmd,even hot tar is better than that peel in stick...with that roof having walls going down both sides like that & all the penitrations coming through the roof,I would of went with epdm or tpo just my opinion,,using a sealant for flashing is only temporary...
Thanks for the video my friend❤
I agree with Steven Gee. Also, you should NEVER run ur base seams within a minimum of 8 inches from ur cap seams. He is pretty much right on top of the base seams. That ruins the whole point/value of having a 2 plied roof. Now it’s basically just really thick single plied roof. JOKE!
Absolutely never seem on seem. This is beyond a joke.
I'm a potter and I got the knowledge how to do my own roof now thanks 😉
That's great!
You really have a great wife there two people makes it so much easier working together in life
Good overall but no flashing? And I say invest in a 80 lb roller and dog ear the corners on the over lap you got this doc
I just took a selfy of my flashing on the roof hang on I'm still posting the pics
fantastic video! you guys are class acts!!!
Wow , nice family, but you’re roofing technics are wrong wrong wrong ,, maybe ok for a shed at camp , but nota house or commercial building ,,
ok
I'm a certified flat roofer EPDM TPO cold process as well as slope roofs , most common repair i have done on similar roof systems is seams and perimeter not adhering. if you want to do this system invest in the seam sealant. you could also do a seal coat over the existing roof for a similar price. EPDM is my preferred system.
Which seam sealant do you recommend?
Can this be used on a brand new plywood sheeting sloped roof?
What a beautiful couple nice job guys keep doing your great videos
Absolute clown 🤡, he is teaching people to throw away money with zero experience in the industry . I’m in tears watching this . If he worked for me he would last 15 minutes not a second more .
I would like to see your video.
do you mean that you wouldn't coach or instruct the people you hire?... just fire them?... some businessman you are
I watch his videos for entertainment
I think the part where you torched and glued will leak overtime. The proper way is to install the ridge and overlap the tarp.
good video but that is 1 part was a very bad instruction...
I have a bakery that I have patched the roof on for 25 years. Each year I got better. NOW I can put a new roof on because of your video. I watched most all of them. (No way my wife will go up there). This is my first comment ever. I have to let you know I appreciate your work.
That is awesome!
Yeah, wish I have one of those wife tools😉 very nice video. 👍
Having a bakery your probably great at spreading frosting roofing is almost the same
The lord parts with knowledge in many ways young jedi. These are not the roofs you are looking for
I don't recommend you to do what you saw in this video unless existing roofing surface as sound as it is here and it's slope is a little bit steeper.
The installers did not pay good enough attention to overlap seems, besides should use a heat- gun to weld together.
I recommend you to find a roofer with experience and install a torch-down modified roof on your flat roof otherwise you can end up with more problems than you bargained for.
Great video.... I see 2 problems
1: you always have to cut your first run of S A base in half alway. To prevent a lap on lap Meaning when you run your cap sheet you're gonna have a lap on top of the other lap thats not good . Cutting your first run in half prevent this .
2 : You need to use an 80 pound roller . The roller is used to remove any air pockets that may be trapped in between the materials. In the summer when its hot the gasses starts to build up in the pockets causing the material bubble up or causing the material to separate in time .
He mentions the roller at 21:10 but they step on it instead.
Stepping on it and not pass the roll on it is the same thing and he also didn't use primer on the roof before he installed the base sheet some roofer call it glue
@@migueldefreitas1367 yeah I s
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Wow no gloves should protect your hands your eyes I've been roofing for 35 years always protect myself
Nice to see a new video. And how about you pros, working a five gallon tar bucket with clean hands! I have a flat roof with a slight pitch, so I’ll stay tuned. Y’all make it look easy. Thanks from Michigan.
It is really that easy. my wife and I did that very fast
Yea man it's easy to keep those hands kleen just never touch it
I really love how simple this roof material goes down
Ya he made a lot of mistakes that may come back to haunt him. But,
Im a bonified roofer.
I had my license.
Retired now.
All you wanna be's give him a break! You know this man put a lot of confidence in people who needed an answer to their roof issue. He made it look easy and very entertaining.
You guys know dam well this roof may never leak. He did some things you called out right away without remembering that the rain was coming. How would you have sealed that edge? By torching it! Wrong! He did it right cuz he had to come back to it.
Good job, Ol man.
yeah it looks really nice
Your comment is clear as mud.
@@info411 no it’s your fault. You don’t do roofing
@@AlloyedFrequencies you stated that he made a lot of mistakes and you didn't mention a single one and then you say way to go, which is it? Name those mistakes Educate us.
Never encourage improper techniques. No I’m not a wanna be. 39 years installer
can you provide me with the name of each of the rolls you used on these jobs. thank you.
I automatically liked your video because your wife is doing all the work lol
Sorry it was not a bad try for doing yourself but it was inproper installation. As a roofer for 25 year I'll tell you what you did wrong. Before you lay out the base you have to apply primer which some roofer call glue, the second thing you did wrong was when you installed the cap sheet you have to stagger it from the base so the laps don't land on the same spot you had to cut the first roll of cap down the middle but I would have cut was the base so I could start with a full roll of the cap the way you did it if one of the laps fail the lap underneath it could fail to because of the trapped water. I don't know where you live but if you get winter weather that will be an issue.
Your installation on the pipe is wrong you are supposed to install a cone over the pipe then put a piece of base down on the cone then put you cap on and it would be in 2 piece s so it wouldn't look like garbage you lay out a piece to pass the pipe cut around it the next piece 6 inch overlap the other way on the pipe and it's good to go and looks nice too and don't forget to use asphalt primer on the cone
You didn't need to you plastic cement on the seams to make it watertight all you had to do was pass you roofing touch on the seams
Allsand is meant as a last resort of large pipes that they don't make cone inserts for not a wash room pipe and your wash room vent pipe you should have risen it up that cap comes off and you should have built it up with 2 layer of 2by4 and flash it in with your base and cap sheet it you live in an area where it snows you are going to have problems
@@migueldefreitas1367 if you have a roof with tar and gravel (flat) do you need to scrap It up before doing this process to it?
No you can put down what roofers call protection board first and screw it down to the existing roof
I have been roofing for 25 years. That type of roof is not made to be installed over an existing roof without an ISO panel or clean sub. It also needs to be rolled down with an 80 lb roller to bond materials. It specifically tells you not to use torch or flame. You are supposed to use a hot air gun. Its not a torch down system. It will def be a problem
Ok truther that's your third worning I'm not going to write you up this time though looks like we're going to need you tomorrow but mostly it's forcuz I am no longer read and rite be cause this video break me mind not work
He's going to roll his imported wife over it
I think it's time the old Doc retires !
Well the roof doctor has been doing this for much longer than you. His way must work.
Ok Karen!! Lol
You guys are awesome
Great job Dr. and Gracias for the Tips looks to easy I'll find out tomorrow GOD BLESS YOU
As they say, a little knowledge is dangerous. There are so many fatal errors in this roof installation, I lost count in the first five minutes. For starters, this is not a "rubber" roof, as he states. It as an asphalt-based "modified bitumen membrane. Second, it can sometimes be installed over existing roof systems, but cannot be installed over "anything", as he states. Beyond that, nearly every application instruction is incorrect. If this roof is watertight at all, it is sure to fail within a few years, max. Please do not take this person's roofing advice. People should stick to things they know!
I like the whole process. I am in kenya how can I get this materials?. Do you have an agent
Thank you for so much for sharing, my question is that you don't need to take out of the old membrane ?
Ok Alexa turn off but first say th least intelligent video you sell me more about college
You should leave it to a professional. It is never waterproof. And what your son did to the pipe hurts to watch. It's just a waste of materials. Good job
That underlay is awesome not seen that in UK. The only worry i have is if the old roof was leaking anywhere there could be rotten boards under your new cap felt? I would always recommend a re board and felt where possible, What do i know you are the flat roof god haha love your videos thanks for the refresh i have one on next week unfortunately with a leak which most likely will need new boards fitting.
I think the roof was made of Twin-T's (concrete)
Wait for the video old wood doesn't rot in the end,try to keep up before you get fired
Great video I enjoy Watching your wife; son and you working together Congratulations
I am in South Florida and this roof has to pass an inspection by a licensed roofing contractor to get insurance. While it looks simple, we do not know if this DIY approach will survive heavy winds, high heat, and torrential rains…sometimes all at the same time. I really wish it were this simple and affordable and appreciate the information, but the comments by roofers point out many potential problems with the installation.
Just wait for terrible weather and then do a.i. 45 minutes video on just how good it not being
In south Florida you're not allowed to put roll roofing over an existing roof layer. "TopShield Pro underlayment roofing systems membranes shall not be applied over an existing roof membrane."
Truthfully as a 35 year roofer I would not put this on a dog house. Just my opinion.
@@shawncummings4653 Show us your video then. This guy has been doing this for many years with no problems.
@@jamescole3152 I don't need to show anything. I have been roofing all through the US. As a speacilst in government roofing. I don't need to prove a dam thing to you.
What a mess going trying to get the air out of the felt by walking onit iwould not let him felt a rabbit hutch
Pervert
Why are you laying the runs across the roof? Why no lengthways? Plus, would it not be better to have done the flat roof first, then the parapets, to achieve proper weathering?
What causes the granules to come off a torch down roof like that? Have a 5 yrs old roof, has lost considerable granules, they clog the scupper box which requires us to clean it out 2x a year. We are going to have to silver coat soon otherwise the roof will be too exposed to UV. It's nuts for a roof to start failing that quickly but from talking to supply house, granules coming off is becoming more and more common
How embarrassing. 37 years of experience flat roofing I have never seen anything like it 🙈
I had to scrole down the comments to, thanfully not far till i came to yours. I watched this bull S@@t till the end thinking that they would reveal the April fools joke. im also 43 years in the game and i have never seen anything like it. Do the people in the comments realise what this cowboy is doing?..its one thing to doing a fly job and running but unbelievable they would record it and put it on youtube!, and advise anyone this is the correct method for torch on or any aplication regarding flat roofs. Yor comment made my day because i was beggining to think im living in an alternate reality. Im from the school of three layers crossed in hot pitch on a PREPARED surface, that means strip off as well. This roof is a disaster but the only upside i can see is it gives the good guys more work. Im saddened for the clients who have no idea what costs are coming their way when this fails, and it will! thats the only guarantee this guy can give.
@@stevengee4562 as someone who knows nothing about roofs, what will fail about this? In the video he mentions he did the old roof on this building 20 years ago. Obviously it couldn't have leaked or he wouldn't have been rehired right?
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Ya I have 23 years of commercial flat roofing my self I wouldn’t share a video of an install like that pretty scary to watch that will leak or blow away with in a couple years no recovery board existing roof not primed no wall flashing not supposed to torch SA plus not a big fan of SA it should stick pretty good or not be installed until warmer day plus all those wrinkles coming into seam he stepped down will pop back open when weather changes he seamed like a smart man just not knowledgeable with product or flat roofing all together maybe??
@@stevengee4562 I've done 1000s of meters with hot pot green mineral finish pasting over the laps so you can cut off the access bitumen which leaves a clean edge. Obviously you know what I'm talking about if you're old school 👍
This is wrong and guarantee it has issues. Why are you teaching people lies. Youre going to destroy homes and properties doing stuff like this. You didn't tear off because you save money only having your wife help. Good luck Dr.DOOM
Good job, now I going to doing , I hope doing good like your people thank you God Bless everyone 🤍🤍🧡🧡🙏🙏
Brain only parts need be
Bless you cause know any sleep not mak cents brain not rest to harder for am
What Rubber Roof brand to you recommend?
Great video, i have a 3-12 pitch roof with shingles is this too steep; will the shingles and under lament need to be removed before applying this peal and stick base and top?
Don’t listen to this guy. He’s a hack job. Torch down modify would’ve been half the price and more reliable
Can you please send me the name of your products to see what I can get her in Mexico for a house my mother has that they keep redoing every 3 years.
Please
This job is one giant bandaid ,reminds me of when I had to patch a hole on the inner tube of my bicycle.
when you do a new installation of peel and stick its a 3 layer process versus 2 and it's just as effective as torch if done properly. If you a layover is just a bandaid youll be really surpised how many homes make it 15-20 more years with a band aid.
I think that's kind of the idea given the title of the video. It's the old saying in business... "you can have it fast, right or cheap... and u can only pick 2." This was fast and cheap, not necessarily "right" according to pro-roofers. BUT, for a homeowner w a bad leak who is desperate for a fast & inexpensive solution (that doesn't necessarily need to last 10 years) this video is semi-helpful.
I don't even have $2 to spend per square foot so I'm totally screwed. Was considering using 4x8 coroplast boards ( only cuz i have like 100 sheets just sitting in my garage) to go over the current roof (glued down). Then i want to tape the seams with EPDM tape and coat the entire surface with expoxy resin. Then put on new perimeter flashing. I realize I'm going to create more issues but I'm stuck and SOMETHING must be done ASAP. Unless some roofers want to donate their labor AND materials, I'm on my own. Water is a sinister foe!
@@Jimd905Well, he just spent $6,500 on materials that are bound to fail within a year or two. Doesn't seem very economical to me.
Maybe he’s going to sell the house right away?
I enjoyed your video. Thank you for posting it. That said I have a couple of questions. I am about to venture into doing a roof in a commercial property of mine after I got quoted a ridiculous amount of money to either repair or install a new roof on a 4500 square feet roof top. On your video looks like to just put the new roof membranes atop the old roof. I was under the impression that the old membranes or old roof had to be removed? Please advice. Thank you very much . Sami
Now, what manufacturers would approve this hack method? You can do cheap work, like any other Home Depot contractor or you could actually do it right and give your customer a 20 year warranty.
I'm currently addicted to stupid so this is triggering 😂
I love his pipe vent flashing 😂
Most counties of the USA allow a max of 2 layers to a flat roof (check with YOUR a county building Dept). After that you have to remove the old down to the plywood strata. Also, roofers comments indicate and 80 lb roller is needed to rollover the material.
I have a question about roofing, I have gotten several contractors over to give me estimate for replacement of the roof every last one wants to install edpm roof material over the current roof, ( old roof hot tar, last roof torch down bitumen) they all want to do only third roof of edpm .
Why?
Why won’t anyone remove the old roof fix the old Douglas Fir t&g decking and torch down two layers over fire resistant paper?
Your demonstration of this project video is showing proof of why they don’t want to do any roof removal and repair.
They can complete the entire job in one day.
No old material to dispose of.
No complicated process.
Minor torch around the edges.
Maximum return on their time.
My flat roof is pitched both sides to the middle and a scupper with a drain pipe in the center.
Where can I obtain the materials from your video?
I’m not about to do the work myself but it’s possible with some help to complete the project in a day and complete the flashing process without worrying about complicated step flashing or anything else.
Thank you.
EPDM is the worst type of roofing material do have on a roof. You are correct in all the other points.
You can hire a few handy guys and have then do your roof with little cost. No need to strip the old roof.
Sometimes Home Depot will carry the Liberty Brand od Peel and Stick. But any roofing supply place carry this material. Beacon Building Supply, ABC Roofing Supply or any other local roofing supply place. The Brand does not really matter.
Reject those bids and keep requiring your specifications only ! Many regions of the country have bad contractors ! Break down the roof work scope into, tear down demo, roof repairs if any then actual new roof area if any ! Doc is right you can re-layer if needed ! Keep calling for free and sane estimates only ! Good handymen with insurance bond can do small if needed !
Plz explain how to make pitch
Can I roll it over a flat roof that already has elastamoric coating?
Thanks you so much 🙏🏽
Do u have a list of everything u used and where u possibly bought everything u used. I live in Pennsylvania and am not sure where to buy everything we need and need to know how to extend our roof out to add gutters to our lower deck
So the pipes can I just place boots to them for extra protection? Also where did you buy the torch?
Anyone with enough common sense knows that cheap actually means very expensive to repair, buyer, beware!
True in most cases. In this case, it is cheap because you can do it yourself saving a lot on labor. The material is not cheap
Where do you purchase the materials
Is he cooking the books? Nobody mentioned preparing roof with thorough cleaning. This guy is hiding cards up his sleeve!
I don't like your comments that is an honest holesome couple with the best financial interests of the homeowner in mind
thank you I'm going to do my roof just like this , I got a estimate for 10,000 that's a eye 👀 opener
Materials and Labor ! for roofs with complete tear outs and new roof can be 3x materials $5K will get you $15K final ! Always always get many bidders and learn from the bids !
always lay a upside down nailed sheet around edges
Our crew always leaves extra nails for the next couple
Great video Roof Doctor. you have inspired me to fix my mobile home roof. I was wondering if I could buy a few minutes of your time for a video call or phone call to let you see my situation and recommend what approach to take, be it peel and stick, torch down or some other kind of approach.
I admire your wife. To me, this what all women should aspire to be; less Kim Kardasian and MORE hard work!
Can I use Tri Built Granular Surface Self Adhering Underlayment as a Base layer before the Torch Down ?
I do that many times and it works good
Guess what else roofers lay down in straight lines with extra help from trusted colleagues. Hint,starts with a C and ends with ocaine
Just keep in mind there is no warranty here. None of this roof membrane was installed to manufacture specs.
What is cashier over the rubber? Water shield ? I'm in WI shop Nenards. Trying do mobile home addition with flat roof. How do I get rubber roll up on roof by myself?
I’m a commercial roofer. Have roofed some of the highest profile roofs on Earth. This guy’s a hack. So much hackery I legitimately don’t know where to begin.
Roofing business is itself a hack to make recurring money! Isn't it?
@@primeworld1830 when you’re putting down a multi-million dollar roof on a hospital or a new skyscraper, there’s minimal hackery- people don’t get paid, warranties don’t get issued, if there’s any, so anything not to par is getting rectified.
Dude you roofers are thieves, I think they teach you how to ruin mfkrs as an apprentice. Labor, materials cost 5k you charge 20k
Uh oh god forbids someone gets the job done for cheaper, as long my roof dont leak I'm good with it. This guy just embarrassed a whole industry really. He just laid down a great roof with just him and his wife and it didn't cost him 10 billion dollars....what lol
@@wolfywolf420 he laid down a sh*t roof
Also way too many wrinkles
I have something with to many wrinkles that I need to rub out
Good video . How do ya know if you are allowed to add another layer ? What if a couple already ? Are there rules ? Thanks
This looks like a potentially AWESOME product. Clearly it has ease of APPLICATION. Next test is PERFORMANCE (i.e., no leaks) and then LONGEVITY. (Those are the three test and the final TEST or issue is PRICE.) $2 psf is very tolerable if the performance is good and the longevity is long.
I like it thank you
You need to watch it again all the way to where the robot pisses off the roof
I like butts
As a 35 year roofer I have never seen such a thing in my life. But I am not a fan of recovering any roof. Any one who has tore off two or more layer's of roofing know's what is going on with the roof under the top one. Old roof continues to decompose, witch takes away from the life of the new installed roof. Even if a recover board it put down. And at min and install some one way vaper vents, so hot condensated air can escape.
How much does a roll weigh? Would that work for a Florida room?
I thought you were South Africans when you started speaking and then your son sounded American 😂.
I have Henry 887tropi cool silicone put on flack roof but have some bubbles how do I fix still use silicone or use different material
where is your insulation layer?
did it pass inspection? it all looks like a big half *ss temporary repair, very sloppy wow.
Great stuffs! Thanks Doc. Immensely enjoyed it (what about the silverly UV protectant at the end?)
can this be installed over a metal roof?
As a 35 year roofing expert, I would not recommend it.
Yes, if you like throwing money away.
@@shawncummings4653 thank you.
Why did you stop using the UV silver coating on the Polyseal? Not necessary anymore or is it a cosmetic finishing for white roofs? Thanks for the entertaining videos.
We are planning to go back and do another video on the flashing part in a few weeks and that is when we will apply the silver coating. Good observation.
Cheers
Only issue is when you laid the cap sheet you need to get a proper bleed out on your seams and you're not
There's no bleedout with peel & stick membranes
My issue is why use this cheep crap. And why is he torching peal and stick at all.
Please do not put a self adhered modified roof on like this guy.
Anyone who has ever put stickers on anything knows it needs to be clean and smooth.
Even roofover he could of screwed down a insulation board.
The roof runs up the wall a few inches, base and cap. Then you hang a wall flashing.
Why am i telling you folks what the instructions and pictures on the package say. Just read them.
I am 3rd generation 38 year commercial flatroofer. If you got any questions just ask. This is not the way.
Turbo poly seal is $200 per gallon you have a 5-gallon bucket there that means you paid $1,000 for a bucket
My customers won't pay me spend money like that
Was this the video which began with $6000+ bill for materials? So if labor costs are charged according to book estimating manuel, how much labor wage does roof owner pay?
Now do the meth using current cocain prices andthen 'm going to need raise
Excellent work
Thanks
By what standard is this excellent work, its complete BS.
This a crap install of a good product. Not supposed to install this over an existing membrane.
Absolutely one of the worst roof installations I have seen in my 52 years of built up roofing. The entire roof should have been primed before installing the base. This roof will now blister, and start leaking 15 years before the end of its serviceable life. The flashings will ALL leak in the next 5 years. Watch some Manufacturer's videos to learn the proper methods.(GAF, Polyglas)
Hie do you ship these materials to Zimbabwe
sorry, they don't ship outside of the US
Not available in most countries please check your iq
"We didn't use base because we were in a hurry" are you kidding me? These guys are showing 4 different applications without doing any of them properly. Absolutely do not follow any of this guys money saving tips because when it leaks your not only going to rip off twice as much crap but your insulation ceiling drywall and flooring will be in need of repair also. Go watch 50 other videos but don't watch or follow anything from this hack job. "Cheapest roof" is going to be the one that doesn't leak for 50 years!
Very informative!
Where is the bleed,three quarter inch bleed manufacturer spesifacation
His wife is so beautiful!
Thank You for this information. I will watch 20 more UA-cam instructional videos and compare techniques.
Be careful up there.
Je suis etancheurs professionnel et j'aimerais intégrer votre équipe
Lots of roofers with 50 years of experience, but they dont like his methods. No explanations nor reasons, just complaining.
Hey, my question is what self adhering material would you use over torch down gutters on a home? I have one corner that leaks, but almost 30 years old & going strong.
what about a flat roof? mine has no slope at all.
Was that TOILET PAPER you used for the flashing ?
Polyester Fleece
Yes but there is a speciality trowel and a 7 gallon bucket of Elmer's glue sold by a second company but you have to be a preferred contractor licensed and insured
The Catalina wine mixer
Wait. They are trying to hide some &$"$$$#
I am in California where can I buy Karnak 81
What is the best option for a completely flat roof with no pitch? Thanks
I prefer Torch Down over peel and Stick base. I think that is by far the toughest roof out there. Then TPO and then maybe EPDM
Thank you. Parts of the roof have silver coat, will torch down stick fine to those parts? Thanks again I really appreciate the help