pan o gold, I meant compared to sr2, I could run sr3 on a lenovo thinkpad t530 with an old buisness nvidia gpu on low settings at 900p(the laptops native resolution), I don't have the laptop anymore because it was a school laptop, so I can't do a benchmark, but try lowering your graphics settings.
I remember playing through System Shock 2 on a 266 MHz Pentium with a basic display adapter and some kind of knock off 3Dfx card. I had no way of measuring FPS, but it felt like a slide show and the more dangerous enemy types could almost kill me before they were drawn. But hey, as far as I knew back then, that was just how gaming was.
you should have mentioned that the pc port of Saints Row 2 also has an idiotic flaw in the fact that instead of porting the same high quality audio files from the xbox 360, what they did is extremely high compression, turning all the audio in the game from 320kbps stereo into sub 64kbps MONO. resulting in headaches and overall completely annoying sounds, this is mostly noticeable on the radio stations, and yes i do believe a community patch for the audio has been released (it was over 3gb if i remember correctly)
That's what made me get a refund! I was on about 40 fps which I was willing to accept until I sat in a car and the hip hop station sounded like it was being beamed to me via tin can and string...
I'm so sorry to bring you this bad news. But I forgot to say "hello everyone and welcome to another video" at the start. So please take that previous "hello everyone and welcome to another video" as the "hello everyone and welcome to another video that should have been at the start ;)
GTA IV was a disaster at launch but dude, it can't hold a candle to Saints Row 2. In the pantheon of the worst PC ports of all time Saints Row 2 stands alone at number 1. BY the way, you know who ported that to PC? It wasn't Volition, they got someone else to do it, and that studio was... wait for it... CD Projekt! Yep, Saints Row 2 is the black sheep of that studio. I don't think they've done that kind of work since. Keep in mind this was back in late 2008, early 2009, they only had The Witcher made by their Red label, and that sold well, but of course they needed even more money for The Witcher 2 and I bet the THQ money was good (but the timetable must have been ridiculous, which explains the state of the game at launch and still to this date, they clearly didn't have anywhere near enough time to port this properly).
@@Tommy-tq9dw The thing is - the game's optimization is really bad on PC. It's a great game, actually my 1st/2nd favorite in GTA series, but it's PC optimization is notoriously known. You may be lucky, I have the exact same GPU like you (6 GBs, right?). It doesn't run stable 60 fps. Sometimes it drops down to 30, which is a lot of fps ups and downs. The fact that you may have top tier gaming PC but it doesn't necessarily have to run properly, while your friend has a notebook with integrated GPU and it runs nicely on higher settings can be very frustrating. As I said, you were lucky on this one.
@@Tommy-tq9dw Because it didn't worked for millions of people during the first five years minimum from the launch. GTX 60 didn't exist up until recently. Try running it on era correct build and a build versions from back then and see what happens. You will be lucky to be able to even start it without crashing.
@@Ebosan87 2008 was the era where PC games declined in quality and were pumped out fast to milk the naive idiots and those numbers became high by today because the games are equally garbage performance and gameplay wise and seems like it sells out better then before. I don't even want to know the mindsets who trow away money on such toxic garbage. And for the ones who complain, what do you expect, you bought a PC game which were a known cancer for the passed 15 years.
What do you know about code this joke only shows how ignorant you are No offence but as a programmer i get frustrated at people who have no idea what they are talking about.
We've finally done it boys, Volition just announced that they found the long lost original source code for saints row 2, now they're gonna release a patch that will fix and enhance everything!
The only issue I'm having is crashes. Most of my settings are on High with my 1060 GB OC'd and it runs around 55 fps avg. That's damn good for the age of the card. Some are even on ultra.
@@sandcrakes If you're talking 4k 60fps sure, but that's future proofing, you are not meant to play it at those settings in 4k if you want 60 fps. If anything RDR 2 is very well optimized, and one of the most scalable AAA PC games in recent time. So the fact that there are people around pretending like RDR 2 is an unoptimized mess, when it's the exact opposite, just absolutely angers me. I'm playing RDR 2 with an RX 580 and a damn FX-8320 and it runs at an average of 50 fps on all high. A damn FX CPU can run Red Dead Redemption 2 in 2019 without any issues, and people call it unoptimized... HOW???
@@Ebosan87 elitists, man. The moment they realize one doesnt need to run everything at the highest settings with the most powerful and expensive rig to enjoy a game, the earth will shake.
As an active Planetside 2 player I can relate to bad optimization, although it ahs gotten better over the years. Guess somewhere in 2022 all of these games are playable on rock solid 60 fps.
@@mateotierno3780 Considering how one x can get 30 fps at 4k on rdr2 but a pc with much better specs achieves the same. That sounds like poor optimization to me.
The game was made for console. They spent years optimizing for just two systems. They can't achieve the same level of optimization for all kinds of pc configurations in just one year
+CloroxBleach The fact is, these people have just gotten soft with all the 4K 60fps. They're like lost children if you throw them in a game running at 30. I remember the time when I used to play GTA4 at 25fps on medium settings.....ah...the old innocent days.
Funy thing: The original Doom will not work on modern systems without emulation. It runs on DOS. And even if one manages to get it running in pure DOS on modern hardware, there will be no input as there is no USB support.
Alvor the blacksmith I've been playing a couple of dozen old games through dosbox for a couple of years now. Dosbox can be a bit of a hassle, but then dos in general was a hassle compared to today's OSes. You also have to be aware the some versions of dosbox work great for some games and totally break others, but having a different numbered version can make all the difference. DosBox isn't always convenient, I accept that, but that doesn't make it shit when it does run dos programs to such a fine tuned degree that I don't tend to see in other emulators.
Tenzing Khedup i dont think so, i tried to play it in june, with an i5 6500, 8gb of ram and a rx 460 and it could barely reach 50 fps on medium at 1080p
I bought Saint Row 2 (as well as 3 and 4) on a recent GOG sale, and I did not have any problem, or stutter with it. Either GOG patched this game very well, or I just lucked out. But since I'm using a i7-6700K@4.4GHz, I think it's the former.
Hmm... framerate seems to be locked at 30 FPS, even with v-sync off. But hey, at least there isn't any stutter. 1080p everything on high, I'd say at least it's completely playable.
Can confirm it runs smooth on my laptop with an i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz ~3.5GHz and a GTX960M at highest settings, my cousin also played this when it was released on pc which ran smooth as well?
Yardnuk If you play modern titles, you just need > 1070. Museum hardware is not meant for gaming, retro games only, you have any museum builds? What to do we products you get after a review?
I don't completely understand your last question, but as for what you said, you can easily play modern titles with a 1050Ti or a 1060, you don't need at least a 1070. Also, I have a few "museum" builds, I enjoy building computers as a hobby, so I have probably around 4-5 builds in my garage with older parts in them.
BanterEdits Plays MUCH better than this. Done. Side note, GTA 4's port is WAY too overrated and it's not the WORST that ppl keep saying. SR2 and the original port of RE4 (which had less graphical effects than the console AND no mouse support at all) is much worse.
BanterEdits GTA 4 is awesome but too bad it's not that well optimized, all tho my old PC with a old AMD FX 4100 and GTX 650Ti and 6GB RAM, Runs it very well at max settings and a low version of ICEenchancer and textures and models I got from the ICEenchancer website, I'm running it in patch 1040 on Episodes from Liberty City which is still GTA 4, Just DLC.
Why didn't you try 720p? I'm pretty sure that was the native resolution of the 360 version they ported the game from. Also it only ran at 30fps on consoles (even dipping into the single digits at times) so I don't think 60fps was ever a target for them. That said I'm sure it could be fixed a bit more with some ini file tweaks.
Weird how much worse it was running for you than it was for my Phenom II X4 840 "Propus" and HD 6770 (1 GB). I was getting 40fps+ and virtually no stuttering at my native 1440x900. Of course, I was playing on medium-ish settings rather than high, but still...
It all turns somewhat better when you install the Gentlemen of the Row mod, which not only fixes TONS of performance issues, but it adds in a shit ton of new content into the game. Even DLC missions from Xbox.
Yeah, the port was pretty good. But as a game, SR2 is better than all the others. Saints Row became a generic adventure game like prototype or crackdown after 2.
The thing is, the game doesn't use custom(simplified) physics shapes for objects, but instead it uses original models, which is much harder to process. So every time you hit something, the game freezes. The only benefit of that approach is that you can have dead bodies bouncing inside your car, as all the car interior physics is based on its actual geometry. Not sure if it was worth it.
That's impressive. At least with GTA IV, if you get hardware new enough and don't crank the settings too high, you can get it to work pretty well (granted there are frame drops still on a 1050 Ti, but really it's not that bad considering it's bound to happen with GTA IV anyway).This is just applause-worthy, and I can imagine people thinking "what the hell were the devs thinking?"
I have gtx 650 ti and GTA 4 runs maxed out without shadows and with not maxed out draw distances. Shadows for some reason kill fps. Draw distances lowered due to only having 1 gb vram. I get around 50 fps, sometimes drops, but I suspect my AMD FX 6300 running at stock clock speeds. It's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
So, if my CPU would be stronger then that would mean that I cold max out GTA 4. Pretty cool, considering that some people with GTX 780s and I7s couldn't do that well.
The problem with SR2 is the streaming engine. Assets were not optimized to be read from the HDD, instead it was meant to be read from a DVD disc. It would probably be playable using an SSD, but I played it on an overclocked c2d e6300 @ 2.8ghz and overclocked gtx460 768mb and it was quite playable...at 1680x1050.
@Irthiza Ahmad I see, thank's. I currently have 8gigs of ram, what if I add another 4gigs? Will that solve it? Can't go any higher than that due to budget and the current price spikes on RAMs
UPDATE : i5 + 16gb ddr3 + gtx 780 Ti; max settings and blur disabled the game started at 40 fps, going to 35 under stress then it progressively cranked up to a stable 60 fps
He forgot one thing in this review. HE'S USING A RYZEN CPU, in other words, Mr. Lame performance for older than 2017 videogames. Even an i3 will perform better in this case, superior single core performance.
The reason performance isn't really improved by changing the graphics settings is that the workload isn't too tough for the CPU or GPU. It's that the game only seems to use 20-odd% of the hardware performance, which is stupid.
It's only pegging like 2 cores of the cpu. Basically holding everything back. I know this is an old comment but I've done some experiments with this bad port lol. Anyway I just play this on series X It's a rock solid 31fps? Weirdly.
This stands in contrast to the experience that I've had on my A8 9600 APU over the past few days where the game runs very well (probably because the processor runs up to 3.4 GHz which is close to the aforementioned clock speed of the 360) except on the highways were stuttering can begin, but I don't know if that is related to my chip just getting hot because I'm using a stock cooler or because it ate all of my ram (I've only got 8gb of ddr4). I'm not too surprised that it runs well on my APU, though, because not too many PC gamers fully understand that when they are discussing the consoles' performance they are actually discussing the performance of dedicated integrated graphics. This is all the concoles are at their core: dedicated integrated graphics. The tests done in this video are, thus, not very representative because of the latencies between the dedicated graphics and cpu processing cores. APUs, by contrast (and more specifically AMD APUs), are more tightly bound just as they are in the consoles.
A buddy and I were unfortunate enough to snag this on a steam sale years ago. It was unbelievably badly optimized. We both had decent rigs for the time and neither of us get it to run anywhere near smooth enough.
bazzle592 thx for the tip, but I don’t want to constantly switch physx from the nvidia control panel each time I want to play borderlands, I wish they release a patch to fix this because it’s clearly a bug or optimization issues for new hardware.
Tasso gamer you could turn off physx, it's not a common feature at all, the console versions didn't have it and it kind of looks strange anyway in my opinion. It just adds extra blood (with some bad artifacts) and flags and cloth can be torn and move with the wind.
was never that bad for me when i played it, and i played ove 500+ hours on the game, i had more crashing in fallout 4 and NV than 3. NV being the worst off the 3.
Jonathan Watson For me it’s the opposite, NV and 4 run pretty smoothly but 3 was just a mess from the start. Steam even says it’s not optimized for windows 7 and above. (I use 10.) As much as I do like NV and 4, I started at 3 and it’s just sad that it won’t work flawlessly without crashing no matter what “fixes” are done. So I had to ditch 3 permanently until someone actually makes a legit “Windows 7 + anti crashing mod” for it. Also I did consider doing tales of two wastelands but I decided against it as I want my NV game to be completely separate from 3 and I feel like it would be a hassle to see which mods between the 2 would actually be compatible with TTW
NV was a buggy mess from day 1 and i played it both on PC and xbox, both crashed like shit, and i even got the bug were you game just stopped letting you do quests after you send the ghouls to space. and dont get me started on fallout 4 dam for the 1st month i just was not able to play as it crashed so much, i was running at 80+ FPS yet it crash or start to lag after about 1 hour off playing (if it last that long) but they were all good games bar fallout 4 that was just a kick in the nuts for fallout fans as it was a joke how much they had taken out thee game and how fucking easy it was.
the closer your cpu speed is to 3.20Ghz the better, the game was un-optimized because it was basically a literal port from the console which relied on the same clock speed regardless of what console you played it on.
If this game stutters on the following setup, it's the god (more like the devil) of terrible optimization. 2x Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 ultra OC 4x NVIDIA Titan V ultra OC 128GB RAM 4266MHz ultra low latency liquid nitrogen cooling 1600w 80 plus titanium psu 10x Samsung 960 Pro 2TB in RAID
MLG Dew cores and threads aren't everything when it comes to gaming, if they were the ryzen series would be raping the 7th generation and below Intel processors, and also the Xeon are more work based processors while the I9 is a streaming/multimedia/gaming CPU.
PUBG, yeah. Watch Dogs 2? Nah, its optimised quite well. I know it doesn't run very well on most systems, that's because its graphically strong and runs a lot of tasks on the CPU as well. I find it as a better benchmark to use for Open World gaming than Shadow Mordor (very old), GTA V (heavily Nvidia-biased), Witcher III (old), Just Cause 3 (too many inconsistencies). There's Assasin's Creed Origins, and it too is NOT unoptimised. Its simply very demanding. Watch Dogs 2 is one of the best game to use as a benchmark for current games and hardware (4c/4t, 8GB-2400, RX470 tier). And I think Half Life 2 is the best game to use as a benchmark for old games (2c/2t, 4GB-1300, GTX 660 or lower). The best scalable game is Ashes of Singularity. It scales up with different CPU speeds, cores, threads, ram speed, VRAM amount, and graphics card performance. It's also not AMD or Nvidia biased. I believe future games will behave like this. (8c/16t, 32GB-3200, 1080 Ti).
I can run Saints Row 2 on an Intel i7-6500U Skylake processor and GeForce GTX 950M graphics card with high graphics without stuttering and FPS drops and with minimal crashes. Also, I wasn't using the Gentlemen of the Row mod at the time. Even with that mod, I didn't see any improvement because there wasn't anything to improve in the first place.
Random gaming, im surely not the only 1 but i have a decent pc: i5 3570k 16gb ram ddr3 1600mhz Hd 7870(planning on getting a 780ti) 1tb 850 evo sdd and i run saints row 2 at ultra 60 to 80 fps except at night times irt drop to 20 fps I don't nknow why but i can handle saints row 2
mine runs between 30-40fps at low with some of settings on like HDR btw I'm using gents of row mod that improves graphics, performance and stuff to the game
Joshua Minke you are confusing optimization with high performance. The game is very graphically demandingso of course at uselessly high settings it will have 60fps. Plus thats BS, as i just watched a vid of this guy getting 60-80 fps on 1080p epic settings with a 1080ti and at worst he drops to 57 fps sometimes, which is not a big deal on that game, and all you would have to do to fix that is turn down one demanding setting to ultra instead.
Saints Row 2 is the one where some Yakuza guy attacks you during the funeral and your gang gets really mad for that? I played it on PC and was having fun, but I can't remember how modified it was and what settings it was on, or even what hardware (probably a GTX 450)
It's not the clock speed of the 360 vs PC but rather that the 360's PowerPC CPU architecture is based on a Reduced Instruction Set Chip (RISC) rather than the Complex Instruction Set Chip (CISC) architecture of X86/64 CPUs as used in PCs which means that if it's a direct port then it relies on the "in-order code execution" which is extremely wasteful of CPU cycles. Also, the PowerPC CPU has a feature known as eFUSE which can allow different parts of the chip to be dynamically reprogrammed for different functions. Basically, the 360s CPU is very different in both function and design than x86 ones and without recoding to take advantage of SIMD functions on x86 chips the PC will struggle to get any stable performance to make up for the lack of the features of the differing architecture.
Update, I have a way higher spec pc(ryzen 7 3700x, gtx 1070, 16gb of RAM) and I force myself to play SR2 in windowed max settings, Fullscreen breaks missions even with community patches
Whats weird is that a few months ago i fired up SR2 on my PC with no patches or anything and had a completely stable 60FPS for hours until i stopped playing. (4790K and a GTX 1060)
Finner Vlogs yeah same I guess Windows just chooses to harass some people. I mean I even disabled the Windows update process, but the bish only stops when I stop the service when it is updating.
I don't quite understand this. I bought SR2 off Steam a few years ago and played it with an originally non-gaming computer on high settings(I7 processor plus a GTX 570 to replace the original GT420). Although I didn't measure the frame rate, it ran smoothly and was very "playable" - as was GTA IV. The only obvious issue was the superfast driving and mouse control. Perhaps I'm just easily pleased?
Was hoping this was about STALKER Clear Sky (2008). I can just barely max it and keep a stableish 60 fps with an i9-13900KF / RTX 3090 / 32GB 6400MHz RAM combo (at 5120x1440). Certainly far, far more demanding than Saints Row 2 ever was. And the only nice thing visually in Clear Sky, is the lighting effects.
Now it went from "can it run crysis" to "can it run saints row"
Clement Wong Saints row 2, saints row was an xbox 360 exclusive, and Saints row the third ob pc eas actually a great port
Great port? My build runs SR3 like ass, and I have a Ryzen 5 1600 and an RX 580 8GB.
pan o gold, I meant compared to sr2, I could run sr3 on a lenovo thinkpad t530 with an old buisness nvidia gpu on low settings at 900p(the laptops native resolution), I don't have the laptop anymore because it was a school laptop, so I can't do a benchmark, but try lowering your graphics settings.
pan o gold I get 144hz 1080p max graphics with a gtx 970m
lol i have 60 fps in saints row 2 with 750ti and i5 4460 8 gb ram
Me with an RTX 2080Ti: Runs game at lowest settings at 480p
Saints Row: *70* . Take it or leave it
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Really?
@@jagdeepsingh9515 No.
NO NOW ITS RDR2 XD
@@SuperHANGER18 Nah you fake
Aaaah, glorious 10fps gaming. My childhood in one sentence.
😂😂
Same, I had a bad laptop for gaming before I got my first gaming pc. But I could play older games with 30 fps, so there's that.
@@manganistDIMITRI at what settings?
@@nazgulbarakas5767 mostly medium settings. Could play new vegas that way.
I remember playing through System Shock 2 on a 266 MHz Pentium with a basic display adapter and some kind of knock off 3Dfx card. I had no way of measuring FPS, but it felt like a slide show and the more dangerous enemy types could almost kill me before they were drawn. But hey, as far as I knew back then, that was just how gaming was.
RTX 2080 Ti vs Saints Row 2 PC
no! intel HD 630
@Bill Drake Some say he died during the test because he couldn't take the performance looking at what he paid for.😂
@III-GabeN-III yo, u good?
@III-GabeN-III i would say F, but actually your PC is a bonus, this is almost a win-win situation
@III-GabeN-III im getting average 70 fps on 8600K and 2070
you should have mentioned that the pc port of Saints Row 2 also has an idiotic flaw in the fact that instead of porting the same high quality audio files from the xbox 360, what they did is extremely high compression, turning all the audio in the game from 320kbps stereo into sub 64kbps MONO.
resulting in headaches and overall completely annoying sounds, this is mostly noticeable on the radio stations, and yes i do believe a community patch for the audio has been released (it was over 3gb if i remember correctly)
HoLDoN4Sec You might be thinking of Gentlemen of the Row.
That's what made me get a refund! I was on about 40 fps which I was willing to accept until I sat in a car and the hip hop station sounded like it was being beamed to me via tin can and string...
I'm so sorry to bring you this bad news. But I forgot to say "hello everyone and welcome to another video" at the start. So please take that previous "hello everyone and welcome to another video" as the "hello everyone and welcome to another video that should have been at the start ;)
accidents happen
RandomGaminginHD that's bad
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RandomGaminginHD you are may fav youtuber of alltime
Ur literally Hitler
"...about as useful as a handbrake on a canoe..."
Actually made me laugh out loud. That is a beautiful analogy.
NoobSniper haha thank you. There were a lot that came to mind but thats one of my favourites
NoobSniper you weren't the only one
same lol
NoobSniper I almost died right now... Right as soon as he said that I started reading it 😂
That was Yahtzee level when it comes to analogies.
My canoe handbrake works very well actually
Uwatwat haha sorry
I think you're on the old Kayak version. You should update to the Canoe patch.
*coughs in GTA IV*
RandomGaminginHD, my cousin, let's go bowling in 20fps.
GTA IV was a disaster at launch but dude, it can't hold a candle to Saints Row 2. In the pantheon of the worst PC ports of all time Saints Row 2 stands alone at number 1. BY the way, you know who ported that to PC? It wasn't Volition, they got someone else to do it, and that studio was... wait for it... CD Projekt! Yep, Saints Row 2 is the black sheep of that studio. I don't think they've done that kind of work since. Keep in mind this was back in late 2008, early 2009, they only had The Witcher made by their Red label, and that sold well, but of course they needed even more money for The Witcher 2 and I bet the THQ money was good (but the timetable must have been ridiculous, which explains the state of the game at launch and still to this date, they clearly didn't have anywhere near enough time to port this properly).
GTA IV at high settings and 1080p runs at 120 fps with my Gtx 1060 so i dont get why everybody is hating on gta 4
@@Tommy-tq9dw The thing is - the game's optimization is really bad on PC. It's a great game, actually my 1st/2nd favorite in GTA series, but it's PC optimization is notoriously known. You may be lucky, I have the exact same GPU like you (6 GBs, right?). It doesn't run stable 60 fps. Sometimes it drops down to 30, which is a lot of fps ups and downs. The fact that you may have top tier gaming PC but it doesn't necessarily have to run properly, while your friend has a notebook with integrated GPU and it runs nicely on higher settings can be very frustrating. As I said, you were lucky on this one.
@@Tommy-tq9dw Because it didn't worked for millions of people during the first five years minimum from the launch. GTX 60 didn't exist up until recently. Try running it on era correct build and a build versions from back then and see what happens. You will be lucky to be able to even start it without crashing.
@@Ebosan87 2008 was the era where PC games declined in quality and were pumped out fast to milk the naive idiots and those numbers became high by today because the games are equally garbage performance and gameplay wise and seems like it sells out better then before. I don't even want to know the mindsets who trow away money on such toxic garbage. And for the ones who complain, what do you expect, you bought a PC game which were a known cancer for the passed 15 years.
Had a PUBG add before the video.
The irony
I had a league of legends one through out the day.
*ad
more like bugG
@Nithin Krishna no lol
Who would do that
Has PUBG gotten any better in the last three years?
Now try 4 of the weakest graphics cards against the them ;D
Budget-Builds Official hi
OccyFN: Hello
It wouldn't really work, because those 4 would be literally the first graphics cards in the world :D
That would cause a tearing in the fabric of space-time continuum
try the 'buget deeplearning card' Titan V for this :)
Legend has it that PUBG uses the same code as Saints Row 2..
Haha it seems that’s a little improved these days.
What do you know about code this joke only shows how ignorant you are No offence but as a programmer i get frustrated at people who have no idea what they are talking about.
mr.MYSTERIOUS,YT u stream mobile games, sthu losee
mr.MYSTERIOUS,YT I was just about to say.
so what ? what is your point
*but can it run saints row 2?*
siisti nimi
the more impprtant question is "Can it run Minecraft 60fps?" (jk lol)
But can it do this "leans back"
EenGamer I see where you coming from
Tämäkin on nimi. You cant change the prophecy! It just changing Rush B to Rush A!
We've finally done it boys, Volition just announced that they found the long lost original source code for saints row 2, now they're gonna release a patch that will fix and enhance everything!
Really ?
@@dudeletsplay4792 yup, look up their channel!
That's lit !!!
That's awesome haha
It was in a flash drive behind the toilet.
Saints Row 2: Im the most unoptimized game ever
GTA IV: No! im the most unoptimized game ever
Rdr2 PC: *Laughs in the Distance*
RDR2 is nowhere near the disaster that GTA IV PC was back in 2008.
Even RTX 2080ti can't handle RDR2
The only issue I'm having is crashes. Most of my settings are on High with my 1060 GB OC'd and it runs around 55 fps avg. That's damn good for the age of the card. Some are even on ultra.
@@sandcrakes If you're talking 4k 60fps sure, but that's future proofing, you are not meant to play it at those settings in 4k if you want 60 fps. If anything RDR 2 is very well optimized, and one of the most scalable AAA PC games in recent time.
So the fact that there are people around pretending like RDR 2 is an unoptimized mess, when it's the exact opposite, just absolutely angers me. I'm playing RDR 2 with an RX 580 and a damn FX-8320 and it runs at an average of 50 fps on all high. A damn FX CPU can run Red Dead Redemption 2 in 2019 without any issues, and people call it unoptimized... HOW???
@@Ebosan87 elitists, man. The moment they realize one doesnt need to run everything at the highest settings with the most powerful and expensive rig to enjoy a game, the earth will shake.
Saints Row 2 is by far the best in the whole series .
But that was not enjoyable due to bad pc port .
Saints row 2 was the best imo. Made improvements on the first one. Doing all activities before the main story made it dead easy.
Saints Row 4 anyone?
Jordan Brown You can fuck off with Saints Row 4
Jordan Brown
Saints row 4 was alright in my opinion. I enjoyed saints row 3 a bit more though.
Saints row 3 was where everything turned idiotic and goofy, all "seriousness" the game had from the previous series got completely removed
And you thought PUBG and ark were bad
Brendan9140 well the new pubg update is actually really good
JaNkA stable framerates? In pubg?! Blasphemy
Yeah ikr
As an active Planetside 2 player I can relate to bad optimization, although it ahs gotten better over the years.
Guess somewhere in 2022 all of these games are playable on rock solid 60 fps.
Yeah, PUBG is a dumpster fire. People saying it's good now are liars.
7:01 GTA VI sneak peak
it looks pretty damn good
what simpsons game is that
Still in beta
"Ok guys i inserted the GTA 6 disc into my Atari oh my god guys it's starting"
I wonder how much folks will have to pay in order to unlock even more awesome features..
2019: Introducing Red Dead Redemption 2 ladies and gentleman
Nah it's poorly optimized but definetly not the worst, considering how it looks
@@mateotierno3780 Considering how one x can get 30 fps at 4k on rdr2 but a pc with much better specs achieves the same. That sounds like poor optimization to me.
@@kazzng2087 that's upscaled 1080p at low settings
The game was made for console. They spent years optimizing for just two systems. They can't achieve the same level of optimization for all kinds of pc configurations in just one year
@@juanleon7758 the advertised the recommended specs of a gtx 1060 to get 60 fps on ultra yet a 2060 can barely get that
A PC patch for the game is coming lol. They found the original source code
8 months later....
@@mr.b9613 true lol, we haven't heard a single thing!
@@MrEditsCinema I hope they're still working on it. I'd buy it day 1
@@mr.b9613 1 year later lol
I have 84 hours on Saints Row 2 with 8GB RAM, i3-5157U ,Intel HD 6100 graphics at 24fps average
I'd rather drink your profile pic than accomplish that
You got the gentlemen of the row patch/mod? It dramatically improves the performance of the game among a few other things.
I have met someone on Steam who has a crappy laptop and has over 2000 hours on Warframe running at about 15-20 FPS. Like... why? -.-
+CloroxBleach The fact is, these people have just gotten soft with all the 4K 60fps. They're like lost children if you throw them in a game running at 30. I remember the time when I used to play GTA4 at 25fps on medium settings.....ah...the old innocent days.
+Eduardo Vega Sometimes you just got to make do man.
But can it run crisis!!!!
I know games can't play other games but still!
Funy thing: The original Doom will not work on modern systems without emulation. It runs on DOS.
And even if one manages to get it running in pure DOS on modern hardware, there will be no input as there is no USB support.
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul what if you buy a ps/2 keyboard and mouse specifically for this reason?? Would it work then?
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul dosbox ?
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul From what I've heard dosbox is shit
Alvor the blacksmith I've been playing a couple of dozen old games through dosbox for a couple of years now.
Dosbox can be a bit of a hassle, but then dos in general was a hassle compared to today's OSes.
You also have to be aware the some versions of dosbox work great for some games and totally break others, but having a different numbered version can make all the difference.
DosBox isn't always convenient, I accept that, but that doesn't make it shit when it does run dos programs to such a fine tuned degree that I don't tend to see in other emulators.
ohh, i thought this was a video about gta 4, my bad..
Xenor Ex no I've now experienced something worse, I had no idea it was possible haha
you sure did....barely 60 fps with a 1070..damm thats high quality optimization right there
Xenor Ex GTA4's bad port is pretty overrated when there are worse one like this and original RE4 on PC.
Tenzing Khedup i dont think so, i tried to play it in june, with an i5 6500, 8gb of ram and a rx 460 and it could barely reach 50 fps on medium at 1080p
Xenor Ex in 720p
I’ll update this when I test out my 1070ti in the latest and greatest benchmarking game: Saints Row 2
SR3 on 1080p High on an rx 570: 80fps
SR2 on 1080p High on an gtx 1060: 43fps
This whole time I just thought my pc was just bad until I got a massive upgrade and still got lag
Testing an fps-capped game with a 1070 is like putting an extra spare tire on a canoe.
Saints Row 2 is "officially" capped at 100 FPS, though the in-game cinematics act up above 60FPS.
More like paddling a canoe against a wall
"extra spare"
Extra and spare is pleonasm
a spare tire is already an extra tire so why use them in the same sentence.. sorry for being a grammar nazi but just curious.
you mean... one unoptimized boi?
YE
B O I
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boi
4 VGA BOI
VS
1 UNOPTIMIZED BOI
I bought Saint Row 2 (as well as 3 and 4) on a recent GOG sale, and I did not have any problem, or stutter with it. Either GOG patched this game very well, or I just lucked out. But since I'm using a i7-6700K@4.4GHz, I think it's the former.
Evan Dark this is the original copy
Hmm... framerate seems to be locked at 30 FPS, even with v-sync off. But hey, at least there isn't any stutter. 1080p everything on high, I'd say at least it's completely playable.
Can confirm it runs smooth on my laptop with an i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz ~3.5GHz and a GTX960M at highest settings, my cousin also played this when it was released on pc which ran smooth as well?
Evan Dark
The GOG version is hard capped at 30fps. Probably to help relieve stutter.
DaddyDirection There's a software, forgot the name but it forces games to 60 fps, I used it back on guilty gear rev 1
Performance tweak patches turns is into Simpsons Road Rage
On the thumbnail, it looks like there is a black car out of Legos
Wait, MSI let you keep that GTX 1070?
Yardnuk That's what I was wondering
Maybe he recoreded it before returning?
Yardnuk
If you play modern titles, you just need > 1070. Museum hardware is not meant for gaming, retro games only, you have any museum builds?
What to do we products you get after a review?
I don't completely understand your last question, but as for what you said, you can easily play modern titles with a 1050Ti or a 1060, you don't need at least a 1070. Also, I have a few "museum" builds, I enjoy building computers as a hobby, so I have probably around 4-5 builds in my garage with older parts in them.
Yardnuk depends on what you need, if you want to play in 2560 × 1440 at 144hz a 1060 won't be enough
Make one with GTA 4
BanterEdits Too easy, 7xx line of GTX handles it better than most modern cards
BanterEdits Plays MUCH better than this. Done.
Side note, GTA 4's port is WAY too overrated and it's not the WORST that ppl keep saying. SR2 and the original port of RE4 (which had less graphical effects than the console AND no mouse support at all) is much worse.
Tenzing Khedup I bought saints row 2 on PC years ago. Couldn't stand playing it for more than a moment.
BanterEdits GTA 4 is awesome but too bad it's not that well optimized, all tho my old PC with a old AMD FX 4100 and GTX 650Ti and 6GB RAM, Runs it very well at max settings and a low version of ICEenchancer and textures and models I got from the ICEenchancer website, I'm running it in patch 1040 on Episodes from Liberty City which is still GTA 4, Just DLC.
Cesar Alvarez my rx 580 8gb can't run it at 30 fps it jumps to 14 or 12 then 56 something like that pretty much unplayable
See? PC performance still didn't even match the performance of the oldgen consoles! (Yes, I'm joking)
Nothing can match Far cry 3 performance on ps3 , best optimization ever .
Beautiful 21 fps
Jack Bunny Car Fry 3 was better. Glorious *non-existent* FPS.
Lol unfortunately the consoles versions also dropped down to 9fps at times. Especially that boat scene at the beginning.
Kamil Szabo Hah, you think old gen consoles are superior? Any public phone could beat those console!
DzkAD Z did I offend you?
Why didn't you try 720p? I'm pretty sure that was the native resolution of the 360 version they ported the game from. Also it only ran at 30fps on consoles (even dipping into the single digits at times) so I don't think 60fps was ever a target for them. That said I'm sure it could be fixed a bit more with some ini file tweaks.
Weird how much worse it was running for you than it was for my Phenom II X4 840 "Propus" and HD 6770 (1 GB). I was getting 40fps+ and virtually no stuttering at my native 1440x900. Of course, I was playing on medium-ish settings rather than high, but still...
"handbrake on a canoe..." Lmao
comments in Rgihd's channel after 2017 be like
but can it run saints row 2 ?
Harmon Jp Answer, no.. xD
Please keep making intros like this but dont forget to say hello everyone and welcome to another video
eri steaj oh yeah my mistake sorry haha
RandomGaminginHD I think you should make a few sketches
thank you for going through all this trouble to make this informative video. Cheers mate!
It all turns somewhat better when you install the Gentlemen of the Row mod, which not only fixes TONS of performance issues, but it adds in a shit ton of new content into the game. Even DLC missions from Xbox.
Such a shame, this is a masterpiece of a game, love it to bits on my XBOX. SR2 doesn't this shitty port.
SR3 was way better, they clearly learrned from that port.
Yeah, the port was pretty good. But as a game, SR2 is better than all the others.
Saints Row became a generic adventure game like prototype or crackdown after 2.
"Masterpiece" learn what that means first
But can it run Saints Row 2 ??
2:35 "as useful as a handbrake on a canoe"
I laughed so hard hearing that
The thing is, the game doesn't use custom(simplified) physics shapes for objects, but instead it uses original models, which is much harder to process. So every time you hit something, the game freezes. The only benefit of that approach is that you can have dead bodies bouncing inside your car, as all the car interior physics is based on its actual geometry. Not sure if it was worth it.
My Intel HD 4000 buddy is crying while watching this video
That's impressive. At least with GTA IV, if you get hardware new enough and don't crank the settings too high, you can get it to work pretty well (granted there are frame drops still on a 1050 Ti, but really it's not that bad considering it's bound to happen with GTA IV anyway).This is just applause-worthy, and I can imagine people thinking "what the hell were the devs thinking?"
Jordan Woolery I played GTA 4 on integrated graphics. However I got better framrate on GTA 5 with integrated graphics lol
DisLiKeD_ FoRtniTe Jesus what are your framerates
I have gtx 650 ti and GTA 4 runs maxed out without shadows and with not maxed out draw distances. Shadows for some reason kill fps. Draw distances lowered due to only having 1 gb vram. I get around 50 fps, sometimes drops, but I suspect my AMD FX 6300 running at stock clock speeds. It's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
Mantas Jurksa because shadows are insanely CPU intensive.
So, if my CPU would be stronger then that would mean that I cold max out GTA 4. Pretty cool, considering that some people with GTX 780s and I7s couldn't do that well.
Saints row 2 was one of my favorite games on 360. It's sad to see that it's shit on pc.
Blue Bandit there's a player made patch for it.
Blue Bandit Yeah MUCH better than SR3 and 4.
Tenzing Khedup agreed
Blue Bandit it's not shit on pc lol just play it on low settings
Kaloop Spring isn't that just the same as the 360?
Who plays Saints Row 2 On PC without the “Gentleman of the Row” mod!
Yeah this mod/patch help a lot. Make game so much better.
Conor didnt know about that, bought the game a whilw ago but have not played it. so im going to get that patch before i play the game
Germans ;)
Omg the most smartest person here.
With Gentlemen of the row mod the game runs just fine on my i7 6700k and 1070.
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Funny thing? The Saints Row 2 pc port was made by CD Projekt Red, now they are one of the best software house on the market.
Cough......cough 90% of Ubisoft titles
When you said 580 all I was thinking about was the RX 580.
And I was like man this thing is poorly optimized.
For that game it doesn't matter if RX 580 or GTX 580.
Pretty sure there would be no different between FX 5700 and 5700 XT either.
@@HappyBeezerStudios 😂
This channel is comfy
The problem with SR2 is the streaming engine. Assets were not optimized to be read from the HDD, instead it was meant to be read from a DVD disc. It would probably be playable using an SSD, but I played it on an overclocked c2d e6300 @ 2.8ghz and overclocked gtx460 768mb and it was quite playable...at 1680x1050.
Fuck, even Arkham Knight is in a playable state these days. This... geeze.
i wonder if you'll revisit Saints Row 2 with these cards after they release the update for it
When you said one of the most unoptimized game, I thought its PUBG lol
Soviet Roll PUBG is well optimized, I used to run it on a gt 730 Now I run it amazingly in my gtx 1050
CaldTheLad_SLG It was unoptimized before but because of continuous updates you can run it on ultra 60fps in 1080p on a 1050ti.
With the recent updates, pubg isn't to badly optimized.
Funny how people say it's well optimized now. Yes, it does run much better on lower spec cards but it still drops a lot of frames even on better PCs.
@Irthiza Ahmad I see, thank's. I currently have 8gigs of ram, what if I add another 4gigs? Will that solve it? Can't go any higher than that due to budget and the current price spikes on RAMs
idk i remember playing SR2 like 3 month ago on pc max setting with gtx 780 Ti and i5 3.4ghz, and it ran well
i will download again, need to check this for real
UPDATE : i5 + 16gb ddr3 + gtx 780 Ti; max settings and blur disabled
the game started at 40 fps, going to 35 under stress
then it progressively cranked up to a stable 60 fps
Rias Lucifer I maxed it out at 60fps on my old 2012 Mac book pro with Windows 10 installed lmao
He forgot one thing in this review. HE'S USING A RYZEN CPU, in other words, Mr. Lame performance for older than 2017 videogames. Even an i3 will perform better in this case, superior single core performance.
The reason performance isn't really improved by changing the graphics settings is that the workload isn't too tough for the CPU or GPU. It's that the game only seems to use 20-odd% of the hardware performance, which is stupid.
It's only pegging like 2 cores of the cpu. Basically holding everything back. I know this is an old comment but I've done some experiments with this bad port lol. Anyway I just play this on series X It's a rock solid 31fps? Weirdly.
Does saints row run at 4K at highest settings on a RTX 4090 and Intel Core i9 13900KS?
I never had any issue running this always ran at a decent FPS on all my systems.
you lie
This guy has the exact voice I imagined for someone who finds 38fps "unplayable".
Lmfao true that. Always the British niggas or people with higher pitch and virgin voices.
This game runs horrible on AMD chips.
This stands in contrast to the experience that I've had on my A8 9600 APU over the past few days where the game runs very well (probably because the processor runs up to 3.4 GHz which is close to the aforementioned clock speed of the 360) except on the highways were stuttering can begin, but I don't know if that is related to my chip just getting hot because I'm using a stock cooler or because it ate all of my ram (I've only got 8gb of ddr4).
I'm not too surprised that it runs well on my APU, though, because not too many PC gamers fully understand that when they are discussing the consoles' performance they are actually discussing the performance of dedicated integrated graphics. This is all the concoles are at their core: dedicated integrated graphics.
The tests done in this video are, thus, not very representative because of the latencies between the dedicated graphics and cpu processing cores. APUs, by contrast (and more specifically AMD APUs), are more tightly bound just as they are in the consoles.
Num1shark this game runs badly on any pc which is sad because this game is amazing
A buddy and I were unfortunate enough to snag this on a steam sale years ago. It was unbelievably badly optimized. We both had decent rigs for the time and neither of us get it to run anywhere near smooth enough.
So glad they found the source code to this game. We're getting an optimization patch to make it run properly finally in vanilla.
Bro when I heard that on stream, Damn.
This game reminds me of borderlands 2 on my GTX 980ti runs at 50fps on 1080P yet only uses 20% of my gpu power and 10% cpu power. Nice one 😂😂
Tasso gamer Seriously. I run a 970 and it dips below 30 at times. I found switching PhysX to CPU helps though.
bazzle592 thx for the tip, but I don’t want to constantly switch physx from the nvidia control panel each time I want to play borderlands, I wish they release a patch to fix this because it’s clearly a bug or optimization issues for new hardware.
Tasso gamer you could turn off physx, it's not a common feature at all, the console versions didn't have it and it kind of looks strange anyway in my opinion. It just adds extra blood (with some bad artifacts) and flags and cloth can be torn and move with the wind.
i get the same performance but with a vega 64 and a fx 8350
borderlands 2 has shit optimization
Why the *fuck* are you mixing a Vega 64 with a fx 8350?
Don’t forget that this game also crashes randomly which is total bs. And I thought Fallout 3 on pc was bad for random crashes.
fallout 3 was not bad if you use mods to fix it.
Jonathan Watson Even with those mods the game still randomly crashes
was never that bad for me when i played it, and i played ove 500+ hours on the game, i had more crashing in fallout 4 and NV than 3. NV being the worst off the 3.
Jonathan Watson For me it’s the opposite, NV and 4 run pretty smoothly but 3 was just a mess from the start. Steam even says it’s not optimized for windows 7 and above. (I use 10.) As much as I do like NV and 4, I started at 3 and it’s just sad that it won’t work flawlessly without crashing no matter what “fixes” are done. So I had to ditch 3 permanently until someone actually makes a legit “Windows 7 + anti crashing mod” for it. Also I did consider doing tales of two wastelands but I decided against it as I want my NV game to be completely separate from 3 and I feel like it would be a hassle to see which mods between the 2 would actually be compatible with TTW
NV was a buggy mess from day 1 and i played it both on PC and xbox, both crashed like shit, and i even got the bug were you game just stopped letting you do quests after you send the ghouls to space. and dont get me started on fallout 4 dam for the 1st month i just was not able to play as it crashed so much, i was running at 80+ FPS yet it crash or start to lag after about 1 hour off playing (if it last that long) but they were all good games bar fallout 4 that was just a kick in the nuts for fallout fans as it was a joke how much they had taken out thee game and how fucking easy it was.
0:52 Dark Sauce
😂
the closer your cpu speed is to 3.20Ghz the better, the game was un-optimized because it was basically a literal port from the console which relied on the same clock speed regardless of what console you played it on.
at 480p low, it looks like the old gta ps2 games
If this game stutters on the following setup, it's the god (more like the devil) of terrible optimization.
2x Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 ultra OC
4x NVIDIA Titan V ultra OC
128GB RAM 4266MHz ultra low latency
liquid nitrogen cooling
1600w 80 plus titanium psu
10x Samsung 960 Pro 2TB in RAID
MLG Dew you must think people are stupid. 4 Titan V? Keep dreaming.
Did you really think I was serious? Btw It's no wonder that this game ran terribly on my GMA 4500MHD lol.
These processors would not be good, it would make more sense to use an overclocked i9 7980XE
JUAU Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 = 24 cores 48 threads
2x Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 = 48 cores 96 threads
Intel Core i9-7980XE = 18 cores 36 threads
Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 > Intel Core i9-7980XE
2x Intel Xeon E7-8894 v4 > Intel Core i9-7980XE
MLG Dew cores and threads aren't everything when it comes to gaming, if they were the ryzen series would be raping the 7th generation and below Intel processors, and also the Xeon are more work based processors while the I9 is a streaming/multimedia/gaming CPU.
i thought it was pubg or watch dogs 2
Relatively young to PC gaming? :P PUBG and Watch Dogs 2 aren't really that bad, there are many many many more games with worse performance
watch dogs 2 is bad, i have the game
Watch_Dogs_2 was actually alright. I got decent frames, with my decent hardware.
initially or after updates...
PUBG, yeah. Watch Dogs 2?
Nah, its optimised quite well. I know it doesn't run very well on most systems, that's because its graphically strong and runs a lot of tasks on the CPU as well. I find it as a better benchmark to use for Open World gaming than Shadow Mordor (very old), GTA V (heavily Nvidia-biased), Witcher III (old), Just Cause 3 (too many inconsistencies). There's Assasin's Creed Origins, and it too is NOT unoptimised. Its simply very demanding.
Watch Dogs 2 is one of the best game to use as a benchmark for current games and hardware (4c/4t, 8GB-2400, RX470 tier).
And I think Half Life 2 is the best game to use as a benchmark for old games (2c/2t, 4GB-1300, GTX 660 or lower).
The best scalable game is Ashes of Singularity. It scales up with different CPU speeds, cores, threads, ram speed, VRAM amount, and graphics card performance. It's also not AMD or Nvidia biased. I believe future games will behave like this. (8c/16t, 32GB-3200, 1080 Ti).
"Hand-brake on a canoe" - Yep genius, I'm taking that one, it's now mine.
I played this game on an FX - 4350 @ 4.8ghz and a Gtx 460 ( then later 580 ), ran great in windows vista compatibility mode.
I can run Saints Row 2 on an Intel i7-6500U Skylake processor and GeForce GTX 950M graphics card with high graphics without stuttering and FPS drops and with minimal crashes. Also, I wasn't using the Gentlemen of the Row mod at the time. Even with that mod, I didn't see any improvement because there wasn't anything to improve in the first place.
My GT 645 could play SR2 on Linux (with wine) and get 60 FPS. No mods and it is on highest settings.
It ain't about power, Compatibility.
Random gaming, im surely not the only 1 but i have a decent pc:
i5 3570k
16gb ram ddr3 1600mhz
Hd 7870(planning on getting a 780ti)
1tb 850 evo sdd
and i run saints row 2 at ultra 60 to 80 fps except at night times irt drop to 20 fps
I don't nknow why but i can handle saints row 2
I think it really is a mixed bag. I’ve heard mixed reports of performance across different hardware haha. It’s a bit messed up
Omfg my first reply from a youtuber and it was a my favourite 1 aswell my life is complete
My budget laptop runs saints row 2 playable at lowest...
By playable you mean 20 fps? I would consider 30 to be the thereshold
mine runs between 30-40fps at low with some of settings on like HDR btw I'm using gents of row mod that improves graphics, performance and stuff to the game
@@mattthegamerhongkong6948 the Xbox version often times runs worse than 30fps
nice video man keep up the good work
i was expecting the rest of the title to say something about unoptimized processors. But this is good too
Arma 2 is unoptimized game
yeah i dont know why they dont just fix it already its been 3 years since they have released it
Tydytek 555 less of a crap game, more of just crap optimization
I thought it was going to be ARK survival
ARK is very well optimized lol, it just requires a decent amount of RAM and a good GPU
Cuzeg Spiked it is well optimized, and you are entitled to your opinion
I can run ark on epic with 50-60 fps
BigMan7o0 no it is not, a 1080ti can't even get 60fps at 1080p epic settings
Joshua Minke you are confusing optimization with high performance. The game is very graphically demandingso of course at uselessly high settings it will have 60fps. Plus thats BS, as i just watched a vid of this guy getting 60-80 fps on 1080p epic settings with a 1080ti and at worst he drops to 57 fps sometimes, which is not a big deal on that game, and all you would have to do to fix that is turn down one demanding setting to ultra instead.
im gonna says gta 4 before watching this video
Bongo The Gipsy GTA IV runs way better than SR2 on PC. They both run like shit but GTA IV is the better of the two.
Gta V
Rulingmoss 55 GTA V is one of the most optimized PC games in recent years.
GTA is so optimized that you can play with i5 2nd gen + gtx 610
GTA V isn't one of the most optimzed games but it is well optimzed, a really good optimized game would be MGS V
What do you mean 20fps won't let you enjoy the game?
I play games too and 10fps is satisfactory for Intel hd graphics
Saints Row 2 is the one where some Yakuza guy attacks you during the funeral and your gang gets really mad for that? I played it on PC and was having fun, but I can't remember how modified it was and what settings it was on, or even what hardware (probably a GTX 450)
beautiful trailer
I remember playing saints row a cracked version on my old shitty laptop that had no gpu
60 fps -but its not that playable...
It's not the clock speed of the 360 vs PC but rather that the 360's PowerPC CPU architecture is based on a Reduced Instruction Set Chip (RISC) rather than the Complex Instruction Set Chip (CISC) architecture of X86/64 CPUs as used in PCs which means that if it's a direct port then it relies on the "in-order code execution" which is extremely wasteful of CPU cycles.
Also, the PowerPC CPU has a feature known as eFUSE which can allow different parts of the chip to be dynamically reprogrammed for different functions.
Basically, the 360s CPU is very different in both function and design than x86 ones and without recoding to take advantage of SIMD functions on x86 chips the PC will struggle to get any stable performance to make up for the lack of the features of the differing architecture.
Update, I have a way higher spec pc(ryzen 7 3700x, gtx 1070, 16gb of RAM) and I force myself to play SR2 in windowed max settings, Fullscreen breaks missions even with community patches
“Cough cough” Rust.
*”How* *to* *break* *your* *PC:* *Part* *1”*
Virgin question:
Can it run Crysis?
Chad conundrum:
Can it run Saints Row 2?
Whats weird is that a few months ago i fired up SR2 on my PC with no patches or anything and had a completely stable 60FPS for hours until i stopped playing. (4790K and a GTX 1060)
im pretty sure 1080p was NOT the norm in 2009. 720p was the main used resolution for gaming, considering PS3 and Xbox 360 used 720p for games.
Gta IV???
Who else hates when windows decides to update while your playing a game.
Finner Vlogs turn update off
Praveen Sharma I have but it force restarts my pc.
never happened to me
its never happened to me before :D
Finner Vlogs yeah same I guess Windows just chooses to harass some people. I mean I even disabled the Windows update process, but the bish only stops when I stop the service when it is updating.
Pc is still a better platform, one or two bad ports dosen’t mean every game is badly optimized.
Think of all those PC exclusives that consoles are never going to get.
Irthiza Ahmad well you never know…
I don't quite understand this. I bought SR2 off Steam a few years ago and played it with an originally non-gaming computer on high settings(I7 processor plus a GTX 570 to replace the original GT420). Although I didn't measure the frame rate, it ran smoothly and was very "playable" - as was GTA IV. The only obvious issue was the superfast driving and mouse control. Perhaps I'm just easily pleased?
Was hoping this was about STALKER Clear Sky (2008). I can just barely max it and keep a stableish 60 fps with an i9-13900KF / RTX 3090 / 32GB 6400MHz RAM combo (at 5120x1440). Certainly far, far more demanding than Saints Row 2 ever was. And the only nice thing visually in Clear Sky, is the lighting effects.