Who's the winner? Wharfedale Linton 85th vs. EVO 4.4 - Soundtest

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  • @georgejones9059
    @georgejones9059 Рік тому +12

    In this test, with the same Audiolab 9000 that I’ve just purchased, the Lintons sound better in this video in every way to me. The 4.4's did come alive more with Retata but the Lintons still sounded better. Great video as I’m looking at the Lintons and the 4.4’s were also on my list.

  • @ivangreguric6053
    @ivangreguric6053 5 місяців тому +10

    I auditioned Lintons and Evo 4.2's side by side in a store (I needed something shelf mounted). I went in planning to buy the Lintons based on reviews, but I bought the Evo 4.2, and I am very happy with them. They sound somewhat different and it comes down to preference. I found the Lintons sound richer and forward in the mid to highs, which I did not like. In other words, I found the Lintons sound too forward and bright (in comparison), and preferred the 4.2's, which seemed more balanced and relaxed.
    Separately, I think the walnut Evo's are one of the best looking speakers around . I love the matt look. The Lintons look dated to me. But this is all personal preference.

    • @angelOcrisu
      @angelOcrisu 5 місяців тому

      Lintons brighter than evo? What amp did they used? The same soulless dry audiolab?

  • @babolababs4732
    @babolababs4732 Рік тому +9

    Same here as most of commenters - ended up with Lintons, although I tested Linton 85 speakers against both Diamond 11.4 (which I was told is a hidden gem and kicks way above its weight) and Evo 4.3, not 4.4. Similar sentiments as yours. I also found Diamond 11.4 a little too forward sounding, not in a bad way but still a little tiring. And yes, I added a subwoofer but I have had Wharfedale SW150 from before so was easy addition ;). Deffo god to have a subwoofer, agree.

  • @drazenbabich
    @drazenbabich Рік тому +27

    Tested both at my local Audio shop, took Lintons home. They were beautifully warm sounding, well balanced non tiring. Evo's were coming across as a little more clinical and I could tell the music coming separately from left and speakers with eyes closed, while the Lintons had centre-focused sound stage. One personal suggestion though, for both of these speakers, so make sure you add a sub, not a big or powerful one but sub nevertheless as it will fill a bit more at the bottom range. I use 10" sub and it's more than sufficient. Lintons dig a little deeper than Evos in low frequency range but still benefit from a sub, IMO.

    • @__DMC__82
      @__DMC__82 Рік тому

      Dreaming about the lintons with that new rel classic 98 subwoofer that just came out for my downstairs set up ❤

    • @DANVIIL
      @DANVIIL Рік тому

      I really don't think you need a sub with the Lintons but I listen to mainly jazz, classical and rock like Steely Dan etc. I don't listen to electronica etc.

    • @drazenbabich
      @drazenbabich Рік тому +2

      @@DANVIIL Sub requirement will depend on the size and characteristics of the room. Mine is medium size and while Linton's punch deeper than most speakers of this type, I got a completely different bass dimension and lower frequency extension by adding a dedicated sub. I also listen to Jazz predominately, addition of a 10" sub allows me to hear trombone and bass instruments in a whole different way.

  • @r2d3vadar92
    @r2d3vadar92 5 місяців тому +2

    Wow! You did a Great Job with this sound demo! Thank you.

  • @NOTSoGoodHikers
    @NOTSoGoodHikers Рік тому +7

    Evo 4.4 is much more open and has greater air.. my preference. The LINTONS are much warmer sounding. They also sound good.

  • @alferro3149
    @alferro3149 6 місяців тому +1

    I've got the Lintons and they are staying. They are connected to a Creek Evolution 100A (outstanding piece of kit). For the price, I can't ask for a better sound

  • @MannyDysangco
    @MannyDysangco 9 місяців тому +2

    Expecting a delivery of my Lintons today...can't wait.

    • @ep3typer543
      @ep3typer543 8 місяців тому

      I'm thinking of getting lintons myself. Any good?

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh Рік тому +6

    It's funny, to me the Linton sounds more forward, more impactful. Bass is "bigger"
    The EVO is more laid back, softer delicate treble and bass, less impact, more mid focused and "open" or diffuse. Can sometimes sound slightly hollow.
    Can't really say one is better than the other with this recording.
    They likely will sound different in person and especially in a different room. Also I personally would have the speakers playing on the outside, or, stagger them so they are always teh same distance apart

  • @alexkorff6479
    @alexkorff6479 Рік тому +32

    in my opinion, Linton is better, they are freer, relaxed, and 4.4 are constrained, sound like from under the bed ... I once had 4.3, and I am not at all enthusiastic about them, and I don’t think that 4.4 is much better than 4.3 ...

  • @chrissmith7069
    @chrissmith7069 7 місяців тому +1

    Thx for the sound test!! .
    I owned a pair of Evo 4.1's and swiftly sold/moved them on..
    I have been considering the Evo 4.4 but after listening to this i'd sooner pass and go with the Lintons!
    Cheers

  • @ep3typer543
    @ep3typer543 26 днів тому +1

    I have the lintons paired with an audiolab 6000a
    To me, the lintons have a big, rich, relaxed sound that is never fatiguing. Bass is big.
    My dad has the evo 4.4 with a rotel ra 1572 mkii
    The evos sound more focused to me and a little more detailed.
    For speakers made by the same company they sound very different to each other

  • @pteamwheeler
    @pteamwheeler Рік тому +7

    You do a great job of putting this vid together, well done.

  • @DANVIIL
    @DANVIIL Рік тому +2

    I really like the Lintons in my 19' x 14.5' room and have never felt the need for a woofer but I strictly listen to 2 channel music and no TV etc.

    • @yuribotnaru3359
      @yuribotnaru3359 8 місяців тому

      Did they arrived? Are you happy with them?

    • @DANVIIL
      @DANVIIL 8 місяців тому

      Yes, I'm very happy with them.They are a great value, in my opinion.@@yuribotnaru3359

  • @davidbennett3098
    @davidbennett3098 Рік тому +9

    The Lintons are designed to have the grills on.

  • @gtric1466
    @gtric1466 2 місяці тому +2

    Lintons sound more open and lively. The Evos sound a little more boxy and a bit bright in the upper mid range

  • @loneronta
    @loneronta Рік тому +3

    En la última canción se puede apreciar como las Evo manejan mejor la parte alta. Las Linton ofrecen un sonido desordenado. Por lo menos eso escucho con mis auriculares.

  • @r.8405
    @r.8405 5 місяців тому +3

    The Lintons have more punch, a far more audible and articulate bass, and are more detailed, but if you listen to the violins and chellos during the Pachelbel track, the treble gets a tad too sharp, which is a huge minus in my book. The Evos are too laid back to be detailed or powerful enough.

  • @46dude41
    @46dude41 Рік тому +4

    Love linton´s stage.

  • @vincentcasasanta3049
    @vincentcasasanta3049 Рік тому +9

    Thank you for posting your sound test videos! Can easily hear the sound signature differences between speakers, using earbuds/headphones, even through YT video playback is compressed.
    I prefer the L85’s laid-back sound over the forward and bright Evo 4.4. I own the bookshelf Denton 85 (D85) and glad I didn’t almost purchase the Evo 4.2. Below is my comment posted to your L85 vs D85 sound test demo:
    “I have the Denton 85’s (4 ohms) paired with a Denon 1600ne integrated amp (140W) and SVS PB-2000 Pro subwoofer (550W). Not bright sounding at all (older, hearing tops out @ 12kHz). Absolutely love these bookshelves!! Mainly listen to Jazz. D85 excels in mid-range clarity and tonality of instruments (sax, guitars, string bass, drums, piano, etc). Set-up in 16’x22’ family room. Can play loud/clear/controlled to 95dB (meter positioned 3’ in front of speaker) and reach 85dB @ center listening chair 16’ away. Also sounds good at low listening levels, too. Love these D85’s, pure musical bliss, every time I turn my system on!!”
    PS: Stream music using the BlueSound Node, however, bypassed its DAC and now use the internal DAC on the Denon 1600ne amp (Burr Brown chip, PCM 1795). It’s ever so slightly better/fuller sounding than the BlueSound DAC.

    • @vincentcasasanta3049
      @vincentcasasanta3049 Рік тому +2

      Correction to my above system. Subwoofer pairing is the SVS SB-2000 Pro (a sealed unit), ‘not’ the PB-2000 Pro (ported). SB is better for music and a perfect match for my bookshelf Denton 85’s.
      Additional useful info .. traded-up SB-1000 Pro subwoofer to the SB-2000 Pro, the 1000 played at its max limits, drew attention to itself, in my mid-size listening room. The 2000 now blends beautifully and effortlessly with the D85’s! Possibly my end-game system? In the future, plan to A/B the D85 and the highly praised Criton 1TD-X bookshelf speakers (w/upgraded cross-over). These two apparently have a similar laid-back and musical sound signature (not overly bright & fatiguing). Will the Criton’s win out? Only time will tell :-)

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 5 місяців тому

      I felt the 4.4s were too laid back in the high end during my year of ownership

  • @andrewwebb4635
    @andrewwebb4635 Рік тому +1

    Evo’s sound a little strained at the top? Could be that strange tweeter.

  • @markgriffiths6540
    @markgriffiths6540 Рік тому +1

    Interesting. Like my Evo 4.1 - the 4.4s sound a bit 'strangled'. I rebuilt my old Ruark Sabres with Peerless D27TG35-06 and Monacor SPH-165 with a home-made crossover, and while maybe a little bright, sound far more 'open' than the Evos - similar to (but more so than) the contrast between the 4.4s and the Lintons. I have the old 'Ruarks' on re-capped Arcam 8R/8P combo which sounds 'better' (but a lot less bassy though) then the Evo 4.1s on a Rotel A11 Tribute - the difference is like listening to the Evos music through a beanie (hat).

  • @SkyNeonPie
    @SkyNeonPie Рік тому +4

    I feel Evo Series is made to use with EQ, subs, and play High volume. Because that’s where the AMT tweeter really shines around 80DB in my honest opinion. I have the 4.1 and WH-D10 sub. And it sounds great with 80 crossover. I’m considering upgrading to surround with either 4.3 or 4.4 and adding another WH-D10. They’re great for my Denon AVR.

    • @yanlinchen6973
      @yanlinchen6973 7 місяців тому

      I use Marantz pm6007 Integrated Amp with my evo4.1 and sw-150 sub.
      I want to upgrade my system.
      Can you tell me what amplifier you use? and give me some suggest.
      plan1 : evo 4.1 > evo 4.4
      plan2 : marantz pm6007 > audiolab9000a
      thanks for sharing.

    • @SkyNeonPie
      @SkyNeonPie 7 місяців тому

      @@yanlinchen6973 Hey there. I have it setup with a Denon AVC-S660h. I have since the OP, upgraded and added another WH-D10. I’m still running 2.1 Stereo. And I enjoy music and movies. I would recommend a Marantz amplifier, if you’re exclusively utilizing them for stereo music. But if you want best of both worlds I would suggest, probably a DENON AVR-X1800H or very similar. Nothing more than 80-85 watts, in my experience, since you don’t need a lot to drive them. But a maximum of 100w at 8ohms is probably safe enough if you are gentle with, volume/channel level. I highly recommend to stay at or below 85w amp for 4.1, or I would go for the 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4. I’m going to upgrade yet again and add a center speaker for better movie dialogue.
      Hope it helps, Cheers.

    • @SkyNeonPie
      @SkyNeonPie 7 місяців тому

      What I meant to say. 4.1 is a great surround bookshelf speaker. That delivers sound, that lives up to THX sound pressure levels, *if* you include a subwoofer.

  • @TheSalami73
    @TheSalami73 10 місяців тому

    What are your thoughts on how the Lintons would perform with an Aperion super tweeter and 8" subwoofer?

  • @giannislarch
    @giannislarch Рік тому +2

    But, what are the sources and amplifiers?

    • @Audiophilesdoteu
      @Audiophilesdoteu  Рік тому +2

      Audiolab 9000A and Node 2i digital out to the 9000A.

    • @NetMediaLab
      @NetMediaLab Рік тому

      @@Audiophilesdoteu Good Morning! thank you very much for the reply. Nice....

    • @giannislarch
      @giannislarch Рік тому

      @@Audiophilesdoteu nice, thanks.. All are nice devices, and of my favorites..

  • @Carl-bd1rf
    @Carl-bd1rf Місяць тому +1

    The two presentations are definitely different. I think I prefer the Linton.

  • @jonathanle1761
    @jonathanle1761 10 місяців тому +1

    EVO sound is more relaxed and recessed to me while Linton has great clarity. However, Linton sound is not forward and neutral to listen to. Mine goes to Linton.

  • @MrSplit57
    @MrSplit57 5 місяців тому

    I own Evo4.2 and this listening test confirmed me I made a good choise! In Pachelbel Canon Evo reproduce a real sound of violin, not some schreeching cats.

  • @RainbowCharade
    @RainbowCharade 13 днів тому

    The Ratata track sounds much airier and exciting with the Lintons. I wonder if the Evo will open up more with use...(?)

  • @jeezuschryst
    @jeezuschryst Місяць тому

    Why did the right linton not have the grill on??

  • @sourav0vlsi
    @sourav0vlsi Рік тому +1

    Wrong time stamps on Curtis Cole - Ratata. Please correct.

  • @larrysmac
    @larrysmac 2 місяці тому +2

    Understanding that a legitimate assessment via UA-cam's codec is virtually impossible, I don't like either. The EVO's sound unnaturally bright, and while the Linton's highs may sound more natural, the mids and lows are a bit too muddy, IMO. Unfortunately hearing either of them in person is a challenge in Michigan, which is an audio wasteland.

  • @rdolle990
    @rdolle990 Рік тому +7

    The 4.4 has more detail but somehow is not as balanced and natural as the Linton's .

  • @mietekkowalski935
    @mietekkowalski935 Рік тому +2

    Linton🏆👍👍👍👍✌🏻✌🏻

  • @tone-369
    @tone-369 Рік тому +3

    I definitely choose Linton, (evo sounds weird)

  • @vatromet1
    @vatromet1 Рік тому

    Great presentation. Question and your advice. I'm about to buy a Yamaha amplifier AS 1200. But I'm undecided between these two types of speakers. Can you tell me. Is the Fharfadale Evo 4.4 a better choice?

  • @SpineTingler007
    @SpineTingler007 Місяць тому

    You need a much warmer amp to pair with those Evos.

  • @seaneckhart9914
    @seaneckhart9914 Рік тому

    That jazz song is just a world of difference from the Lintons. The choice is clear

  • @themarksmanABP
    @themarksmanABP Рік тому

    Could you pair the lintons to a chord mojo 2 and drive them sufficiently as the DAC amp? Or could you use the mojo 2 as the DAC and then buy a seperate amp plus add a sub? Also, i'd need to stream my Tidal music to the speakers aswell. I wonder how these would sound using the mojo 2 DAC.
    Never looked into a HI-FI system but a new house now means a cinema room. These lintons appear to sound nice from my online research, I'd need to hear in person with my playlists though.
    Input anyone?

    • @guystpierrecomposer
      @guystpierrecomposer Рік тому

      I drive my Lintons with a 15 watts SMSL A1 using a mojo 2 as DAC. It is fantastic below 80/85 db. The mojo alone is not enough (yes it work, but not loud enough). The mojo 2 is a great dac and the Lintons can reveal the mojo 2 refinement. My SMSL A1 is powered true the Audiolab DC block filter and it make a noticeable difference in the hi's definition of the Linton.

  • @bhadrapad
    @bhadrapad Рік тому +2

    Jeez man ,how can someone say smthing over...."4.4 lack bass and all" YES ,they have,Insane amount of bass,anyway ,need a good positioning are awesome for acoustic music deff no for electronics.thinking to change them for Transpulse 1000 ,cheers ;)

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 5 місяців тому +1

      In my year of ownership I thought the bass of the 4.4's was their strong point. Mids were very good by the high end was far too laid back for me

  • @johnfu5831
    @johnfu5831 Рік тому +2

    EVO 4.4 has a clear stage and separation but lack deep bass in comparison. Linton sound more round and warm because of the bass but also muddier. EVO 4.4 would be great in a 2.1 environment or a home theatre setup. Linton is used in a small room standalone setup. So in my opinion they shouldn't directly compare because the different use scenario.

  • @FNGyoutube
    @FNGyoutube 2 місяці тому

    I prefer Mission 700/ 770 to Wharfedale Linton 85/ Evo 4.4

  • @alrangele9915
    @alrangele9915 Рік тому +2

    Stil go for e70 and e90 series! The best!

    • @johnbancroft5242
      @johnbancroft5242 Рік тому

      I regret giving my E70's away 20 years ago. I had them 20 years myself. they were great fun.

  • @markrhodes5474
    @markrhodes5474 Рік тому

    Love the look of the Evo 4.4 but I think the Lintons sound better but look a little old fashioned

    • @34332
      @34332 Рік тому +2

      Lol, that retro look is the whole point and their vintage sound too. Instant classic, imo.

  • @victorquero6599
    @victorquero6599 Рік тому +2

    Las Linton 85 tiene más ataqué las Evo con ese tweter de cinta son más suaves

  • @Bas1lio
    @Bas1lio 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice idea to compare the sound through mobile phone…

  • @themastroiannis
    @themastroiannis Рік тому +1

    evo sounds 'clearer' , more definition of notes, but definitely, less fun... the lintons have a fuller more relaxed sound. for the classical music example i did prefer the Evos; the other examples, the lintons, no question. thanks

  • @fusingkwok852
    @fusingkwok852 11 місяців тому +1

    85th👍

  • @JPWinters
    @JPWinters 2 місяці тому

    Lintons sound much better, Evo's look much better.

  • @nellomarrazzo9601
    @nellomarrazzo9601 5 місяців тому +1

    non riesco a capire come fate a dire che le Linton sono migliori. A un certo punto diventono assordanti e fastidiose. Le Evo sono sempre morbide, equilibrate e dettagliate. E se alzate il volume restano spenditamente bilanciate e si esalta anche il tweeter. mah

  • @ukaszandrzejewski4888
    @ukaszandrzejewski4888 Рік тому +1

    Lintony they sound fuller and warmer, definitely Linton wins!

  • @mattroland5943
    @mattroland5943 17 днів тому +1

    Evo's sounded hollower, narrow......Linton , more wider

  • @naveenthakur9303
    @naveenthakur9303 9 місяців тому +1

    Linton 4 me

  • @michaeledwards5241
    @michaeledwards5241 10 місяців тому

    Sounds like the Evo’s need a bigger amp.

  • @ruefelix5847
    @ruefelix5847 Рік тому +1

    linton speaker win

  • @dulichion
    @dulichion Рік тому +18

    These comments are fucking hysterical, like you can honestly make a judgment from an audio recording on youtube? You call yourselves audiophiles to boot, that's grand! lol

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh Рік тому +4

      You can get a decent idea from well recording, good room setups, with good headphones. I cross referenced with speakers I knew the sound signature of, and ended up buying based on research including listening samples. The speakers sound about as expected!
      This video, not the greatest, but you can still get a rough idea. When you can't listen in person, what have you got? Common brands like B&W, KEF, Polk, Monitor Audio and then the store doesn't even have the ones I may be interested in.

    • @larrysmac
      @larrysmac 2 місяці тому

      You mean, considering dropping several K based on a UA-cam codec is not a wise choice? 😜
      Many self proclaimed "audiophiles" remind me of an article describing a self proclaimed wine 'aficionado' reciting a glossary of terms to a world renowned winemaker, who simply replied, "That's great, but do you like it?"

    • @henryhymc2709
      @henryhymc2709 21 день тому

      4.4 was outclass by the Linton 85th which has more low end thump & wider soundstage.

  • @syavagor
    @syavagor Рік тому +1

    4.4 сравнить бы с S60e ua-cam.com/video/rVwKJCm1ckQ/v-deo.html

  • @TriAmpMyFi
    @TriAmpMyFi Рік тому

    DoveDale ! DoveDale ! DoveDale ! DoveDale ! ................lol 🔈🔉🔊

  • @psysword
    @psysword Рік тому +1

    Lintons all the way

  • @natural12-c3c
    @natural12-c3c 9 місяців тому

    Lingtong from Xi´an/China

  • @theewok1444
    @theewok1444 10 місяців тому

    I had the 4.4 and didn't like them at all.

  • @tomwebb7091
    @tomwebb7091 Рік тому

    Sod them both...buy the equivalent priced Focal and hear what proper in house drivers and decent crossovers made by the actual designers themselves can do.

    • @ElkTheHammer
      @ElkTheHammer 10 місяців тому

      I demoed Focals at a similar price flabby base and shrill treble

    • @tomwebb7091
      @tomwebb7091 10 місяців тому

      @@ElkTheHammer Check your head lol. Frankly, I feel sorry for your ears. I dont mind the older proper Wharfedales such as the 500 series from the 80's when they were made in house in Yorkshire, England. But these mass produced Chinese speakers sound mostly awful. Evo 4.1 is muddy with a suck out leading to harsh treble and the AMT sweet spot is so miniscule that the soundstage and coherence collapses if you dont keep your head still. But nothing is as bad as the muffled distorted mess of the Linton. Honestly buy £100 worth of classic model 507.2 and actually hear bass and treble properly and not this flat muffled grey sound with grainy uppers that the Lintons offer. As for Focal their speakers are in another league entirely for driver quality and sound. I can accept the Chinese Wharfedales are at least nicely veneered for the money but at their price points the drivers are low rent and especially the crossovers are a joke. Of course most audiphools buy with their eyes not their ears especially at the low end

    • @tomwebb7091
      @tomwebb7091 5 місяців тому

      @@ElkTheHammer Flabby bass? Thx for confirming your full of BS. The Wharfedale signature sound is muddy, rolled off and devoid of reproducing transients properly ie UNMUSICAL. Focal the total opposite.

  • @olegvayzmin5253
    @olegvayzmin5253 Рік тому

    Спасибо. ЗАШИБИСЬ.

  • @Zoomerland
    @Zoomerland 4 місяці тому

    I owned a pair of 4.4s, buying them based on a few online/youtube reviews. I hated them and sold them after 7 months. Cheaply made, does not pass the knock test. I won't buy anything from wharfedale, terrible workmanship and drivers.

  • @williamrobert4306
    @williamrobert4306 Рік тому +1

    Much better soundstage with the Lintons …not as sterile

  • @СтепанФилипас
    @СтепанФилипас Рік тому +1

    85th with out bass

  • @BumHunter
    @BumHunter 5 місяців тому

    They both greate, but not perfect, hard choice

  • @georgemakos5655
    @georgemakos5655 Рік тому

    Both of them, sound the same.
    No one different. / 🎵🤔 🎶🤔

  • @-Cybin
    @-Cybin Рік тому +3

    those "soundtests" make no sense lmao. what am I supposed to hear ? i hear your speaker... on my speaker. It demonstrates nothing

  • @freemind279
    @freemind279 Місяць тому +1

    Evo 4.4 wins.