Here's what no one is telling you about the HeyGears Ultracraft Reflex
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Some additional thoughts to add here..
- I forgot to add a LANGUAGE WARNING. This video has naughty words. If that offends you, too bad.
- I don't think I mentioned it so just to clarify: You CANNOT use Lychee, Chitubox or any other slicer to prepare files for a Reflex printer.
- Updates to Blueprint Studio can also brick the device as Jeremy from @FigureFeedback discovered.
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- Blueprint Studio is also completely unusable without an active internet connection. I just tested it, and even if you're logged in and have access to the slicer, you cannot create a new print project because it won't let you choose a printer, resin, or layer height. This was worth making another video for, and you can see that here:
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- No you really do not need an inbuilt heater, I made a whole video about it. Aftermarket plug and play solutions are plentiful and work great. Don't believe the hype.
- All my criticisms of the closed ecosystem, Blueprint Studio, and materials also apply to the new Reflex RS. I'll have an in depth look at that machine out soon, but tl;dr is I think that is the one to buy if you're still convinced a HeyGears machine is for you.
- Regarding my criticism of the automatic supports. I don't have a dog in the fight. I haven't done presupport work professionally in years, I offer no presupport services today, and I make zero dollars presupporting minis. Minirater.com is also not monetized in any way either. I'm actually all for a good auto supports engine, and I look forward to the day we have one.
- I personally have had great success now with countless resins and machines printing miniatures by putting in no more work than simply adjusting the normal layer exposure, and bottom layer exposure values. Please if you're new don't be discouraged by calibrating a resin. It usually takes no more than a single print, and it's set and forget. Do it once, never worry about it again, and the experience from that point on is the same as a printer like this that's come with a pre calibrated resin profile.
You can go deeper with calibration if you want with the other settings, but honestly you don't have to. Again, this is worth reiterating: I've dialed in countless resins on multiple machines by simply changing nothing more than the two exposure settings. One of them effects how well parts stick to the bed (bottom layer exposure) and the other effects how sharp the detail is, and more importantly how well support tips can hold on (normal layer exposure).
All those other settings people talk about to try and scare you off, that stuff is there only if you want to make calibration a hobby. If you really want to rule out the guess work though, then just take the hit to print time and decrease lift speed and add some light off delay, THEN run an exposure calibration print, and then just enjoy resin 3D printing without ever thinking about settings again.
Resin printers produce such insanely high detailed prints, you won't notice if your resin is perfectly dialed in or not when it comes to sharpness, unless you like pixel peeping with expensive macro photography gear. So please don't sweat calibration, it's easy and fast. I think I'll even make a video about it soon, so let me know here if you want to see that.
For now, my Comprehensive Guide to Resin 3D Printing Miniatures already includes this quick and simple calibration process if you can't wait
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I wouldn't buy a printer that would require me to log into their servers to slice a print.
The other thing is I pay about $17/kg for resin from a local company. I just need to add 10-15% tenacious so it adds a little bit to that cost.
Heygears resin cost is 2-4 times the cost of what I'm willing to pay.
They need to realize were artists/gamers, not dentists.
No way am i buying a online-only printer. If i pay for it, i get to use it without outside control.
Especially a Chinese one.
When Chinese companies that wants to sell their stuff aboard, they try their hardest to hide the fact that they're a Chinese company. (They most likely not have a "About us" in their page or they'll say something vague and say WHEN they started but leaves out the WHERE.)
And I can tell you from the two decades living there, almost all of the medium size and above companies required to have a CCP department inside, especially the tech ones. For info gathering of course, they are required by Chinese law to give information on demand to the CCP.
So, whether you wanna POTENTIONALLY give your info to this basically a shady organized criminal group (CCP), it is up to you.
And thus I have a Phrozen instead, with Lychee for the slicer. (Taiwanese Phrozen & French Lychee
However, I want to use the latest 3D printing process package to stay at the forefront of technology.
@@omi_liang Hello Corporate Account, how are you?
Wait wait wait... you cannot use the slicer offline? Meaning that you can only prepare your models if you have an internet connection? That is a big no-no. Huge thanks to you for pointing this out.
yep, even if you start it when online, if you lose connection for whatever reason the slicer entirely stops working.
@@threecreepio I've been scouting the market for a new printer and looking into the reviews on youtube to help me decide between this one and the GK3. I was almost conviced to get the HeyGears but this online only system is a dealbreaker for me. Not considering getting one anymore unless they open up the system like BambuLab has.
Yep, no internet no printer!
Hey guy, Smart phone time now
I'm glad one of you guys finally said it, I'm sure heygears are unlikely to work with you again after this but this needed to be made. Good on you!
Who knows, they've been open to critical feedback and they've known for a long time I dislike their approach. I'm optimistic they might listen and change things up! But if not, whatever I'll happily just buy next year's mod if it looks interesting enough to make a video about.
@@OnceinaSixSide They would probably fear you buying the next one and doing a review _fully_ off the reservation, with no obligation to spin it positively. I think you've guaranteed your next sponsorship from them with this!
Oh god I was just seriously considering the Reflex Printer because my Saturn 3 Ultra was giving me so much trouble and I was so happy with my Bambu. But this complete requirement is a deal breaker. Not making this up. Always give an option to let me use things locally and completely offline.
I just measured my s3u uv uniformity, rated 92% actualy 52%, so 6x bigger difference between brightest and darkest point than advertised. elegoo is seriously a stain on this industry.
Get the Saturn 4 ultra. It's waaaaay better than the S3
@@awildtomappeared5925all LCD screens weaken over time until pixels completely stop working.
@@jasoncombs3232 Nah the problem I have is the lasagna bug and that still exists on the Saturn 4 Ultra, where it gets overwhelmed if there are too many pixels in one line and then the image starts flickering on the screen.
@@TashiMortier my Saturn 4 Ultra has been running since it's launch and I don't have that problem or "bug" It's rock solid and far better than my other 8 printers.
Online only appliances? Hell no xD
Not.
Even.
Once.
Pull your collective heads out of your asses HeyGears.
Thankfully Heygears don't sell to New Zealand, just like Elegoo, so they fail the only test that matters as far as I am concerned - availability.
As for online only, f3ck that. I'm still using my Kenwood Chef mixer built in 1964, because it's got no digital components. The motor has been refurbished and rewound twice so far and should be good for another 10-15 years before another rebuild. Some of my power tools are older than me, for the same reason. Bought once, maintained and constantly in use.
Decentralization is the point of 3d printing. I was planning to get one of these in the spring, but this walled garden approach isn’t the future I’m willing to invest in.
Online only is the step before subscription only. And they're already doing subscriptions with their resin... Nope! Thanks Once in a Six Side, this kind of unbiased review is gold.
Lets goo
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I havent even got ten minutes in, but thank you already. I dont see anywhere near enough people actually talking about this side of it. I'm 36, in all that time 100% of my experiences with closed ecosystems i've either bought into or been proximal to have wound up being negative. Something ALWAYS happens eventually, its not if, its when
Proprietary resin makes it a no from me
Forcing me to log into their server makes it hell no
Glad you pointed this out......I haven't heard it anywhere else
Yeah, HeyGears could go out of business or you could lose internet access... What's more likely to happen, IMO, is they move the slicer to a subscription model and now you're forced to choose between having a useless printer or spending $30/mo to use it. They've already locked down their resin system, so they have no problem making your life harder for their financial benefit. Why should we believe they aren't going to try to squeeze every penny out of you?
And, yeah, having a resin profile for your specific resin is great! But... as far as I can tell, they use a LED light source... LEDs dim with age, so either the new printers are overexposing or the older printers are going to start underexposing and causing more print failures. If you can't edit the profile, you're hooped.
100% they will deprecate features, add them in with a paid subscription model, and hope to play chicken with their users who face the prospect of having an expensive paperweight or continuing to pay.
Thank you for this big picture look at the HeyGears product. I actually dropped FauxHammer due to his horrific review. Love it or hate it, whatever its their review its their truth, but at least be honest and tell people about the damn product in it entirety. How the hell can you miss always online BS, you can't without smelling your own shit that's for sure.
I still cant understand how this printer is taking UA-camrs by storm, its literally the Bambu Reddit was making up in their heads to fear monger about. I could never get behind $$$ for a printer that actively strips out basic features that every printer has to force you into their ecosystem for one reason, greed. Imagine an X1C where only Bambu filament is allowed and that's it, that's bananas for a makers tool.
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I honestly don't understand how anyone can trust fauxhammer when every other printer he """reviews""" is "the best printer ever" or "the new industry standard". He's just a shill who will happily clickbait you trying to get you to buy crap, as long as he's getting paid by the manufacturer of said crap.
No doubting it's a good printer but, apart from the huge cost, being dependent on the internet for slicing and tied into HeyGears resins as well, no way. As always, you tell it like it is, that's why I subscribe to your excellent channel. Great stuff )O(
I run a small print farm. We were just discussing options to expand our printers, with the two main options being HeyGears Reflex RS or the Uniformation GK3. I don't have giant qualms about the proprietary resin, but this is the first I've heard (after watching a few reviews) that the HeyGears is Online Only.
Online Only is a deal breaker for me. We were going to buy 3 - 5 of them.
This has been my biggest hangup with the HeyGears printers. Bambu does the same sort of "customer experience" thing but i atill have full control of that orinter and im not locked in to proprietary consumables. Try harder HG
I don't own a 3d printer, I don't print, I don't play warhammer or any other games using miniatures, recently have become interested in 3d printing, watched a lot of videos. Saw a ton of reviews of this printer, they all look bought tbh, and your honesty here is commendable
yep, I'll stay with my Saturn's. Thanks for the heads up.
Regarding the bad smell of the resin: I guess this may be a hot take, but I think resin being stinky is a good thing and should be required: it's toxic stuff that you shouldn't be smelling it, and being odorless makes you comfortable with not taking proper safety measures. It's like kitchen gas: it's naturally odorless and can kill you without you knowing, so they add some smell to make you aware that you are inhaling it.
Decentralization is the point of 3d printing. I was planning to get one of these in the spring, but this walled garden approach isn’t the future I’m willing to invest in.
Always online is so damn stupid, seriously....
no offline mode and no 3rd party resins = no sale
Thanks for this, was just researching 3d printing for a potential future purchase, watched several videos on the Heygears printers and no one mentioned a online only requirement. NOT A CHANCE IN HELL, no way do I want a £1500 unless lump when they eventually shut the servers down/stop support (and they will, it's only a matter of time). Also I don't see any reason they can't have an auto and manual option for settings, just put a warning on that they take no responsibility if you make a mess of it. I really hate it with anything when there's an issue that could be fixed by myself in 5 mins and I have to wait for a company to do it.
This printer would be completely out of contention for any government, corporation, or school that have policies against sharing information with third parties.
This is basically consumer only printer, and only for suckers who are okay with getting locked into an ecosystem and not having control of their own products.
After breaking out of the Apple Ecosystem this year I’m not willing to get locked into any new ecosystems and for this reason HeyGears won’t ever be a printer I’m willing to buy. A cage, even one made of gold, is still a cage.
This man right here speakin’ facts about beginning resin printing and whatnot. All those gatekeepers or bigger channels creating fear. I remember it took me months of and months of research to pick up my first printer to find out that, it pretty much worked right out of the box. Easy asf. I hope those bigger channels take note as well as Heygears because you are doing it right.
I see always online and all I think is
Remote bricking or 'software updates' to encourage me to upgrade.
Also what protections are on my data?
Always online and remote servers is a hard pass from me.
It could be the best machine on earth and I would use it to hold my door open !
Glad you are bringing this up, best reviewer in the resin space. Definitely second guessing HeyGears now if they don't fix this.
It's not your printer. It's the kind of printer GW would use to sell you their miniatures.
3d printer that requires an internet connection, yeah nah, noone wants that, thanks for warning us this printer relies on a service
This printer has NO PLACE in the maker space
The requirements for the login / always connected crap is unforgivable! I dislike proprietary resin, but it won't stop most. But the online only should never be something the community lets ANY company g t away with.
Closed ecosystems are a hard pass for me.
Can't believe this is the first time I'm hearing that you can only use the Hey Gears slicer with their printers. Thanks for letting me know. I think it's unacceptable for a peripheral to use a proprietary format to communicate a print job. Imagine having to use "Epson writer" to write and print a document on your Epson printer... No thanks.
As a fallback if HeyGears refuses to standardize alternative people with HeyGears printers could sniff their network packets try to reverse engineer the authentication.
Proprietary resin at $60 a litre shipped to Texas from China is $80. For. One. Litre... I currently use Sunlu ABS Like resin for $20 per lite available next day from Amazon. For me, that one thing makes it a deal breaker.
I won't buy a locked in printer, full stop. I OWN what I buy not the company. There's a reason that I won't buy certain printers etc. They locked it all down.
Thank you for the honest review! Agree with all the pain points you covered that other reviewers have glossed over.
I could buy 2 printers for the price of a single HeyGears printer. That's all I need to know xd
Would never buy a printer that locks me into their system in this way.
I was looking at this thing a couple of days ago. But secure login required online? That's a BIG NOOOOOO. Never. Upcoming California legislation is going to make it illegal to claim they're "SELLING" you this gear. If you can be locked out because you can't log in, you're LICENSING only. It's a rental. A lease. You don't own this printer.
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You're absolutely correct. Here in the U.S. there are farmers who are locked out from working on their own tractors because of B.S. like this. Not going to buy into a printer that plays this nonsense. I own it. I use it. I modify it. I maintain it.
I shouldn't have to ask permission to use something I own. Period. End of story.
If I'm spending premium money on a premium product, I'm not paying for an explicitly closed system like one from HeyGears or one that could be bricked with one tiny firmware update like what Bambu Lab has to offer. I'm happy with my Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K (I do way more FDM printing than SLA printing) but if I had a need and the cash to get a better printer, I'm getting something from Uniformation long before I even consider HeyGears.
Also: holy dogfucking shit, that pulse release module is loud. That's might be as bad as an old FDM printer without silent stepper motor drivers. Imagine being someone looking to get their first printer to make minis or sculptures or whatever and you go all out to buy the "easiest" printer to use, and then you get BWARRGHRGHGHRGHGRHGRGRHGRHRGH noises the entire time. Every video I see on a HeyGears printer makes me like them a little less, and that shouldn't be the case for hardware that clearly has had a lot of thought put into the design.
Thank you for this honest and brutal review. Ive seen a few videos like your last one that show off how great it is (and even in this video, you still compliment it!) But getting into the nitty gritty on issues and things that need improved really puts the real user experience into perspective. I had considered this as an upgrade when my Mars 3 stops satisfying, but it looks like the workhorse will continue to work.
Back in 2019 I bought a 3d scanner. The program that runs the scanner requires website authentication after installing the software on a computer. This was fine until the company was involved in a lawsuit, delayed by Covid, that shut down the company. I can run the scanner on my old laptop, but I cannot use my new computer to run the scanner. The company I work for has the same scanner and cannot use it because we upgraded our computers. The $5000 scanner is now being offered on the secondary market for $150.
Damn! That's a great example of what I'm worried about here with HG machines. Do you recall the name of the company and the scanner? Would love to read up a bit more on it.
Amazing videos that are great to watch even if you don't own that specific printer. I'm a noob and just changed my first FEP (a fear of mine) and I still am learning supports/calibration. I use this channel to help me the best possible and I Thank you. Great job and keep the videos coming.
Reminds me some mini painting channel announced their own boardgames with 3D printed figures. Nothing too big. They also announced the only way to play it was via an app which caused most of their fan base to immediately say no. After all the moment the app stops working the boardgames would be useless. So it had, at best, a 5-10 year shelf life.
Haven't heard anything about the project since.
I want a few changes like the log in, better ventilation, a build plate that doesnt store resin, custom and easily shareable profiles, a sealable case, heated bed standard and make the FEP sheet change easy.
I will never understand why everyone requires dozens of screws for the FEP when it could be done with a few levers.
First, writing from Kyiv, people in the heart of global conflict with frequent power and internet outages still print, and not only drone parts. Power generators and big batteries solve power issues, but not exactly internet.
Second, for engineering parts this is even more unusable as every engineering application needs different resins, and for any other "hobby" printer you not only can choose from tens of engineering resins, you can also make custom mixes to suit your needs. Overexposure is also very bad for engineering parts so that's a straight no go with closed system. They are not Stratasys or even Formlabs so you can be sure of longevity, resin availability or quality.
Or, yeah, changing profiles "behind the scenes" - that's a "good" feature - imagine you finetuned your model in cad to accomodate all shrinkages, overexposure and stuff, slice a new version and suddenly parts don't fit andl threads don't screw. Brilliant!
The price alone was plenty of reason for me to not consider it. Especially since I get what I want/need out the machines I have. But seeing all the other hassles and failures in this, definitely a no for me. And I really think they are trying to ride the coat tails of Bambu's popularity and reputation. Trying to be the Bambu of resin printers. And this clearly is not the case. Thanks for pointing all of this out. Up until now all I have hear was "this is the greatest resin printer ever and you need it". Keep spreading the truth.
I love this dude, this channel should be the number one 3D printing channel on UA-cam for everything not just miniatures, and I think ice as a community should make this happen I know some of the fanboys won't help but honestly we don't wanna have anything to do with them anyways........... This channel is one out of two or three channels I look forward two new videos coming out and enjoy every minute of the content pause if I can't fully pay attention or step away for a second while other channels just feel like every video is an ad about that particular thing that they're trying to sell me..............
They say controversial videos drive the algorithm, so good job with that. But I appreciate the other side of things because I am really new to resin printing and the early bird discount causes a great fear of missing out but who's to say the price won't drop below that by the time I actually have TIME to use this?
And the proprietary nature of the machine concerns me, too.
Thank you. This is what I believed when I saw every youtuber I follow reviewed this printer, but they refused to adress! I would not be interested a printer that is so restrictive.
Won’t buy anything that is online only…Won’t buy any printer where I cannot change the settings. ESPECALLY not one this expensive
I would never buy into something this expensive, if it required online connectivity. It's bad enough with modern consoles.
This printer has an identity crisis.
It has design elements that are meant for professional controlled environments, like a lack of ability to vent (like it assumes you are in a climate controlled, ventilated manufacturing space)
It's login locked slicer assumes you're a professional company paying for licenses who have built their business model around operating the HeyGears.
It's locked resin profiles assume that you have some sort of locked in distribution contract with them, like in a professional environment.
And with all of those professional features and snags, they are trying to sell it to hobbyists and miniature gamers.
If you are a miniature gamer who is into 3D printing, you are FAMOUSLY against high price tags and closed ecosystems. They are trying to sell this thing to the wrong crowd.
They are one step away from just flat out saying they will only allow bulk licensing and have an admin portal to manage the users.
Half the point of a printer is being able to fix shit when you can't get it anywhere else. Being forced to be online AND trusting they don't shut down the servers? Hell no.
Hey look, it's the review that I heard imprinted in the last video.
All the criticisms you couldn't say because it was an actual ad, as you made very clear. Love it
I'm glad someone came out and pointed out how locked down the system is with no way to get around it. All the other content creators just skirt around the issue or handwave it away as not a problem. Even with bambu, at the very least you can print locally over lan, you can print using an SD. You aren't locked into their slicer or their filament.
Yeah I've basically been shouting at my screen with every other HeyGears video I've suffered through.
I love that you're bringing some attention to this. I've written to a few reviewers to try to nudge them to at least include something about the online-only locked down approach and most seem to feel that no consumer actually cares about that stuff, or everyone already expects software to work that way anyway. The resin *price* issue seems almost irrelevant to me, if you're willing to spend thousands to get a 'premium' printer setup, you're probably not that price sensitive on the resin side.
Yeah everyone has completely missed the real issues in my view. I don't really care about the high cost of the resin either, it totally makes sense. But locking out the settings and making it online only is insanity.
Lets go! Or, I'm ready! Something like that just to stoke the algorithm and help me get this out there.
Totally needs to not have a login to use the slicer. Optional, sure, but not required.
The good news is all the fumes killing your brain means you eventually won't mind spending thousands of dollars on this crap!
Haha
This video is why I continue to watch your videos. Thanks for not being a shill.
Algorithm! have fun!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!
Algorithm! have fun!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!
Online only for a Physical printer you owe and have locally?
Hell no!
Let's go! Or, I'm ready!
Like that, right? Nailed it...
Drone parts. For reasons. Indeed.
Very true…that is why I got the Bambu X1C. I wanted high quality printing and speed so I can only worry about designing terrain for my channel without tinkering. When I feel or have time for tinkering..got my CR10.
That is the reason I wouldn’t buy it. Online only things….deal breaker for me. Where I live the internet isn’t the best and reliable.
I have seen the online settings on a few newer printers. I have an older XYZ and that company does not even exist any more. Not something I would want to buy into.
It's a hard NO from me. It was in my top 5, but now, eh, no thanks.
Great video! Locked eco-systems are bulldust.
HeyGears seem to be sending a lot of these out of review.
It's a tool not a toy heygears! Act like it!
1. No for me if I need to logged online to use my printer … my router craps out and I can’t print anything or make money while my connection is down ?
2. Then having to use proprietary resin where they control the price and stock ya hard pass.
3. Then having to buy accessories that should be part of the build , like other less expensive competitor already include.
4. Being locked into what they think is a best “print profile” and not being able to adjust or change anything.
5. Premium price on a printer that you won’t have support or even ability to use if they go under or for some odd reason we can’t log in to their servers 1k+ paper weight
I was about to buy 10 of these for my Print farm.. No way I'm doing that now! I need to be able to run these offline!
Oh damn, glad I got this out in time for you then! Yeah it's not clear at all from any of the publicly available information from HeyGears that this limitation exists, and I've watched I think every other creators video on these printers and I've not seen a single mention of it anywhere.
@@OnceinaSixSide If they are so proud of their system, why are they not right up front about the lock down? They KNOW it is something we don't want.
I subscribed just because of this video.
Yeah this system sounds gross.
Any company that thinks it knows better than the consumer when it comes to the user experience, doesn't deserve my money.
It doesn't matter how good your product is; if the experience around that product is a locked-down dystopia, it will just die on arrival. Stop trying to be 2006 itunes. Just listen to your community and build goodwill. I would sacrifice some levels of convenience and even quality to go with a company that has shown goodwill towards the community 100% of the time.
Ok, when I saw this pop up on my screen as I was eating my turkey bacon like sandwich drenched in curry sauce, I thought, WTF !!!
Yes, I have just pre ordered a HeyGears RS & heated vat & pumping thing, I'm sitting here in anticipation waiting for the day it is dragged up to my 2 nd floor flat by a loving delivery driver who couldn't wait for this box to enter his life either... So, what a very bad feeling & it to defend the honour of my newest resin printer, I listened intensely, waiting to jump in & say how very wrong you are etc... Hang on, no actually I totally agree with what you are saying & I truthfully think HeyGears should open their ears & eyes & take what your saying on board, it is in fact the very reason I bought my Bambu Labs X1 Carbon, I love it intensely. I can 110% concur what your saying to HeyGears, stop mucking about, this isn't an industrial venture, your playing with the guys that ponder to the non professional buyer out there, guys & girls that love machines because they are the best & want to be better by sucking this part of the non industrial industry dry...I get it, why can't they? I'm no way cancelling my RS I have no intention of pandering to only using £50 & £90 resins... truly am buying this printer because of its quality & software, to think I might be kicked out of it if my internet goes down is worse, HeyGears is horrendous... Listen to this guy, listen to us all HeyGears, you can't do this & survive long term with the Reflex or RS... Someone will break this special privilege you think you can keep & take away your long term sales... This guy is right, I am backing this video completely & hope you are listening, good job Onceinasixside, well said 👍 subscribed & very big like... If I knew how to patron you I'd be doing it now 👍🤔
PS, I just bought an Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra a few weeks ago & after watching this to the end might even cancel the HeyGears?? I'm pondering....😢
I found your Patron, I'm ok for a while to help a tiny bit with your channel, if HeyGears listens to our whining Ill be here a bit longer as a bonus lol 🤭 not sure with all this expensive resin buying how long it can last though 🤔
They can do what they want. Hopefully they listen.
Check out what formlabs did. The community baked in this company. They promised an open material system in the Form3 and now they selling this Upgrade for 2k per licence.
I have this paperweight printer in my basement and not willing to pay 160€ for one liter grey resin ever again.
In the end we can be lucky that we can fill whatever we want into the vat of the reflex. Allready bought the rs combo by myself If I didn't watched this video. Just for the good slicer alone. But Imagine a new AI auto support slicer come to the market or lychee catches up one day. Would be nice to have an open printer around than.
Yeah there's no way in hell I'd even consider buying that printer with all the listed issues unless they were changed!
You can still play halo 2 online through lan and a computer program.
Yup, Halo 2 is a pretty bad example most of it is still functional with just the disc, especially when there's been plenty of games in the last 10 years that are completely unplayable now the servers are down.
Let’s go
Another great video, I don’t see the internet connection as a massive issue personally but as you said, this printer and the new reflex are NOT for everyone, only a narrow section of the hobby
The only issue that makes me pause is the lack of an offline mode for the slicing software, and I think you're the only one to mention it so far. I have issues with my internet sometimes, and I would really be annoyed if a project was delayed, or work lost because my internet dropped out. I have the same criticism as you of the "one-click-print" orientation algorithm, it sucks. I suspect HeyGears will work on that as they get deeper into the hobbyist realm, but it may take a while. As for the resin, I don't think it's a big deal, or a crap shoot, using 3rd party resins. The more I see about this and the RS, the more it seems to me that the suite of sensors and the software that operates the machine is the key here. I have yet to see anyone who tries 3rd party resins have a failure.
You can have a successful print that is still garbage due to over or under exposer destroying many of the details, which is where the crap shoot on 3rd party resins becomes a major issue.
@@amberphoenixfire3510 Except it doesn't, unless you're hyper finicky about exposure. Most detail on miniatures isn't as sensitive to precise exposure times as some people think. That and the differences between resins isn't as significant if you keep it within similar types. If you use the Heygears water washable profile for a 3rd party ABS-like, you may have a problem, but if you pay attention to what they say their resins are for and match your 3rd party resin to the similar profile, you aren't likely to have an issue. The real issue with using 3rd party in a HeyGears machine is that you won't get support if you have a failure, as they will talk you through a few things if you are still in their ecosystem. That's a problem if you rely on Reddit or the like for troubleshooting answers because it'll be hard to find any nugget of good information in the answers that will be 75% ragging because you spent too much and aren't a real 3D printing hobbiest, and the other 25% variations on "level the bed" or "increase your base layer exposure."
10years?!?! 3d printing is such an evolving hobby that in 4years it will be obsolete.
Funny I own and use 4 printers.
2 fdm
2 Resin
My prusa is 8 years old and mars 1 is about 4.
Both still get regular use.
@@MrBizteck sure...my grandpa still driving a car without airbags, parking sensors, AC, etc etc..and he is still be able to go from A to B
As a beginner who got into this printing. I bought the Elegoo Mars 4 DLP under exceedingly high recommendations and the amount of times I have wanted to hit it with a sledgehammer is incalculable. I have gone through 9 bottles of resin and only got 7 successful prints (2 of which would be classed as fails if I couldn't cannibalize other parts from failed prints). I have no interest in spending hours upon hours calibrating for settings. I want prints which I can paint. That's it! I have spent well over 100 hours calibrating this accursed printer I have basically given up. That's why I'm interested and want a Reflex as it takes near all human error out of it. I have thrown more money at this Elegoo than I would have just buying a reflex. Unless you know the perfect settings for the DLP with Elegoo's ceramic grey water washable resin which gives me perfect prints near every time (like you have claimed lower cost machines can do) I will stick to saving for the Reflex, one thing is for sure. I will NEVER buy another Elegoo product
I’m ready, let’s go, I’m excited about the algorithm.
From someone that prints professionally THANK YOU for such a good and honest review!
Heygears contacted me about the reflex sooooo glad I missed the email I had a play with my friends and not a fan of the slicer or the resin, he has a good sized print farm and the reflex never gets used because it requires models to be resliced using there slicer and no one can be bothered with it..
I had to ask him 10 times to collect it because he just didn't care, I don't think he's even plugged it back in!!
He needs all his printers running to make money so for him not to bother with it speaks volumes, also it prints REALLY slow..
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This is wall to wall red flags for me. Proprietary ecosystems, no access to settings, online only, limited resin choice. Nope.
I was already really put off by the ecosystem and this has just solidified the fact that I'm never going to buy anything from this company.
Thankfully I am not in the market for a new resin printer, I'm still extremely happy with my Anycubic. But if I was looking for a new one this would defiantly not be the one. I have had it with locked down hardware/software, been there, done that and have my share of rusting garden ornaments. What are Haygears thinking (apart from making more profit, which is the only reason I can think of to lock down a product), nobody in their right mind wants a hobby item that they can not use the way they want to. Most manufacturers realise this and don't do it in the hobby market. It doesn't matter how good an item is it will never sell as well as an unlocked machine, look at PRUSA.
Thanks for your video. I've watched as many as I could about this printer because I was choosing between this and the GK3 Ultra. Yours is the only one that was real about this printer.
Ross at "FauxHammer" is claiming that this printer is working for him offline and thinks you have made some sort of mistake. It occurs to me that _perhaps_ both of you are right. You're in Australia and he's in the UK. It is possible that there are regional differences in the way the slicer operates, since consumer protection laws vary from country to country. Could it be that these printers are more "locked down" in Australia than they are in the UK/Europe? We need to get to the bottom of this!
Regardless of the truth of the matter, I would *never* do business with a company like HeyGears that wants to do this sort of thing to _any_ of their customers and is only restrained in some places by legislation. A company like that is not worth supporting. If they want to rent/lease the printer, then do so honestly and openly, and don't expect customers to spend thousands of dollars to "buy" something they'll never really own!
stick it to them! Or hell yeah brother! or... let's go!
So, to buy one of these printers and ship it to Alaska, you have to contact their support and do a custom quote for shipping. That process isn't super smooth like a one-click purchase, so I had been dragging my heels on getting my purchase made. I won't be making that purchase as long as their online-only slicer is the only option, along with the other BS enclosements they've engineered for themselves. I will pay for and use their resin because it simplifies my workflow and saves me time, but I demand the right to change the exposure settings on a machine I paid hundreds or thousands of dollars for. I'll be responding to my customer support thread with these thoughts as well, and link them to this video so they know the spark.