I believe the prepper bingo card is a .22 rifle like a 10/22, a centerfire pistol like a glock 19, an AR-15 or some sort of centerfire semiauto rifle, and a 12-gauge shotty. I've got the first two checked off, and a shotty might be next ... someday ...
Alex Carter I agree. I also think a 22 revolver and some kind of gun that can reach out and touch. I'm thinking something like a 6.5 Creedmoor Ruger American. They're fairly cheap for what they are. You can find ammunition even during pandemics and other outlier events like this coronavirus thing.
Goddamn 5 TB WD Black HDDs are expensive, as can be seen by the amount of platters in there. And it's a real blast from the past seeing and hearing Danny. He'll live on through your videos.
Just this morning I tested a cutshell/waxslug out of an mossberg 835 which is overboard or I wouldn't have ran a cutshell/slug cuz I was scared over pressure issues. Since it is over bored the cut part of the shell actually acts as a sabo and the crimp keeps the slug safe from heat and wind. It was very accurate and punched through a refrigerator box stuffed with debris. The box was about 24 to 30 wide and it punched both sides. The back side showed signs of the slug fragments but was still smaller than a baseball. I am going g to run a few more and then make a video on my final product. I am hoping to get a wax slug on a pie plate at 50 yards reliably. I think I am pretty close. 10 of the slug variants I made today shot just fine at 30 yards and maintained a 4inch group ( not bad for a smoothie and some ditch craft). I am making some more today. I also shot several uncut waxers and to my surprise they were just as accurate even though the barrel is way too big for the slugs base diameter but they worked fine and held a 4in @ 27yards. The cut shells and the waxers both love to tumble. The diff is that the waxer holds together if you do good work. ( yeah, you can make a shitty waxer ) and the cutshells flip the contents of the shot cup out randomly, alot of times once it loses some load it goes of track cuz the imbalance and stuff. Waxers are definitely better than cutters. The only ditchcraft that is as cheap and effective is a combination of the two. If you don't have an over or back board barrel I cannot recommend a waxed cutter ( play at your own risk type shit). Happy new year 2021
Just got home (9:30 pm here) after a 13 hours day at work. I Sit down, turn on the computer and hey! A new video from @TAOFLEDERMAUS Just what I needed to lift my mood ^^
Right?! Just spent my day off pulling apart a Chrysler and after fighting that bitch for 7 hours and finally getting it back together I’m sore, greasy, and tired. But I get home after defeating that beast, to a nice reward!!
Small thing I like about this channel...when they go from camera to camera they record the audio and you hear their reactions on all the cameras. Kind of makes you aware they aren't fudging the footage. Love you guys.
@@taofledermaus love the production. I was watching one of your videos from about 10 years ago and was really enjoying the Skrillex like music playing over all the shots :) You all really have this down now. Is it bad that I always worry everytime you all play with the lead plate? Always worried while you all are "exploring" the holes made, you will cut yourself and instant lead poisoning...im very rational...yep
You're asking him to go to his private top secret testing facility outside the Granola Curtain. Jeff lives in the PRK; flechette rounds are big "Nyet!"s to the commissars here...
i dont think you get how a wax slug works he explained it once its not the wax that holds everything together its only part of it, its the structure that the shot makes while its in the wax matrix that holds it together this is why flichets wont work it will just come apart
Always look forward to your videos. It is one of the 4 gun related channels I regularly watch, the others being OG's Dangershow, InRangeTv and Forgotten Weapons. Keep up the great videos!
It's almost sad. People have thousands of "good ideas" every day that last until they're tested. That one that does pass the test though, that's what keeps us coming back.
I’m just surprised they’re goin through that hood for a wax slug wow 😳. Great video Mouse Wildman Danny and Officer Greg. Y’all be safe out there and GOD BLESS your families Amen 🙏
The biggest improvement to those is using a shell cutter to just cut out the crimp so the wax slugs can't plunk out of the shell if racked into a pump action. (which can create a dangerous situation)
I've done a lot of experimenting on wax for black powder lube. Toilet ring wax is really gooey but it is tough stuff, it doesn't go to hell in the heat it just gets stickier. Paraffin for canning is nice and clean and dries hard but is brittle. If you really want a tough wax, melt down some long lasting survival candles. That stuff will hold together for a wax slug I bet.
Their back! I have missed the wax slugs. I actually wouldn't mind seeing a revisit of the wax slugs on modern targets and with the chronos camera. I don't remember if you already did this or not or I just missed it but if not then I would love to see it.
@Brian Landers seems like given the examples I've seen here and elsewhere it would go just fine at 7 yards. Unless they are wearing armor. But there are always bigger fish. But I could also see doing it wrong and having it break up st the muzzle. A box of 5 slugs or buckshot is pretty cheap.
Great video and projectile testing, thank you, Jeff & Danny! P.S. Be careful about shooting your wad too much, it could end up costing you for years and years!
Playing at your local theater is...THE WAX SLUG..... O'no not that !.....PS those hard drives have some mighty strong Magnets in them.....Thin you'allllll....Carry on...!
Would melting a plastic welding stick and mixing the shot in be better? Maybe filling a metal mold to ensure even melting and distribution of the plastic would work. Or maybe I’m just blowing smoke?
I hate this kind censorship, guns aren't evil. It's like watching porn without sex or showing genitals/breasts, or eating a hamburger with nothing but the bread (not even sesame seeds).
Can you make a video of how you guys remelt ballistic gel in your stainless steel mold? I think a lot of people would like to see how that's done since its so expensive to buy new each time. Also whats the website of that "CLEAR JELL" Company? Thanks for a great and fun channel. Yours truly, Officer Sims, LASD
Still blows my mind what that camera does, especially for the low cost of it. And Danny is a surgeon with that mass accelerator. Though Breanna is some pretty solid competition for him. Great video. Shame the slugs didn't work too well, but cool to watch regardless.
Those of you that say "just make a slug", or "just do a cut shell" are missing the point. The fun of wax slug is in the explosive impact they have. The terminal ballistics. I have numerous slug molds, but still often make "Waxers" 'cause they're fun!! I'm betting that with the info gained from this test, VettePilot Ballistics could make an improved version. Maybe they will. They put some nice effort into this one. MORE WAXERS JEFF!!
Solution to wax slugs - first, crayon wax is brittle so it's the last kind of wax you want to use. Another issue is that pellets or dust shot is being used to give it weight, which is good, except that they do nothing to preserve structural integrity and if anything, weaken it. Instead, I would suggest taking an approach similar to rebar reinforced cement or pykrete in that some sort of binder needs to be mixed with the wax - say a small, plastic mesh or fibers of some sort to help bind the whole thing together. I'm thinking maybe braided fishing line with split shot attached to it so you have both weight and a binding/reinforcing agent.
Crayon wax has worked perfectly. Any wax barely holds it together. If there are any voids (where the shot doesn't stack perfectly, it is a breaking point and also throws off the balance- which seems to be the issue with these.
Was he using paraffin wax? And you used crayons? I’ve been doing lost wax castings as a hobby lately and the type of was plays a huge role some are very hard and brittle while others are a lot more mushy and low melting point like paraffin. Just an idea maybe a future video to be tested…
Bees wax is what I use. Doesn't shatter and sticks better to the wad. I'm now looking at using cast bullet lube. The White label lubes X-lox 2500. Very sticky and not likely to shatter, a lot like bees wax. And cheap.
What about making a wax slug in a Diablo shaped casting? Maybe lose some weight because of size restrictions but proven design. Love all your videos! I learn so much
From the thumbnail it looks like the placement of the birdshot probably upsets the balance. Not nose heavy, but not tail heavy enough to do a flip in flight. I know each slug was different, but my hunch is a balance issue.
I thought about doing this about a year ago with the c-lbc wad. I really wish we could buy those black wads that were in demo ranch's vid years ago. Black cylinder wads with the top that screws off so you can fill it with whatever you want
A suggestion for the next wax slug test, use the wax from the top of several Maker's Mark Bourbon bottles. Like you said melt wax add shot from shotgun shells, pour, let cool, and shoot.
I want there to be commercially produced wax slugs. They have their uses. Do a lot of damage on the target and are somewhat accurate, but splatter after the first impact, reducing over penetration.
Jeff, years ago, IraqVeteran8888 had a video series about the "Little .410 That Could." Would you be able to do a video going over the topic in your own inimitable way?( yes, I am buttering you up a little 😉) I am curious about what the high speed camera would show. (Those little Brazilian .410s were cheap, but man are they tough.)
curiosity question what would I have to do for you to test the Walmart 12-gauge shotgun barrel cleaning shells I use them the other day and was thinking I wonder how they fly in slow motion
OK I got my Crosman red-skirted non-lead 16.7gr pellets, they're called "Red Flight" these days, and are product number LF22167. I tried pulling one of the red skirts off and this can be done with the fingers - it reveals a little "tail" on the metal part of the pellet which should actually make it fly a bit better than if it didn't have one. Interesting! I can only get green ramset blanks so far, but will keep looking around for brown or grey ones.
The 12 gauge shotgun is such a marvel. A ball of wax malfunctioning is still a lethal projectile up to 20 yards away. Truly most versatile firearm.
I believe the prepper bingo card is a .22 rifle like a 10/22, a centerfire pistol like a glock 19, an AR-15 or some sort of centerfire semiauto rifle, and a 12-gauge shotty. I've got the first two checked off, and a shotty might be next ... someday ...
Alex Carter I agree. I also think a 22 revolver and some kind of gun that can reach out and touch. I'm thinking something like a 6.5 Creedmoor Ruger American. They're fairly cheap for what they are. You can find ammunition even during pandemics and other outlier events like this coronavirus thing.
"Left and high"
"That's California windage"
I had to think about that one for a second. Funny as hell!!!
Totally expected!😂😂
Such a hilarious line!
Lovely joke, even as an English man I get it. 😂
Sad but true - I would love to see that state go back and vote for Trump 2020
@@annotten7413 trump doesn't care
Goddamn 5 TB WD Black HDDs are expensive, as can be seen by the amount of platters in there.
And it's a real blast from the past seeing and hearing Danny. He'll live on through your videos.
Danny: “Throw it on the ground? Oh. ‘Piece’ on earth!”🤣🤣🤣
I think instead of just calling it "Wax Slugs" we should call it "Crayons with Danny"
More like repurposed marine supplement
@@Initial_Gopnik now I was in the Canadian infantry, and I served with some Marines, and they don't like that joke but the rest of us do hahahahaha
"Crayons with Danny. Try to stay inside the lines!"
5:15 OG would be proud, being a professional hole inspector and all
😎👍
I was going to tag that time as "Demonitized for glory hole reference." LOL
The 'S' on the overshot card (or whatever it's called) is to remind you to shop smart, shop S-Mart.
Groovy!!!
Yeah dude!
Hail to the king.
Chew on this!!!
I’d like to see these tested against cut shells. That would be cool.
I would too, he did a video on cut shells and REALLY didn’t like them, I think it’s a bias
Just this morning I tested a cutshell/waxslug out of an mossberg 835 which is overboard or I wouldn't have ran a cutshell/slug cuz I was scared over pressure issues. Since it is over bored the cut part of the shell actually acts as a sabo and the crimp keeps the slug safe from heat and wind. It was very accurate and punched through a refrigerator box stuffed with debris. The box was about 24 to 30 wide and it punched both sides. The back side showed signs of the slug fragments but was still smaller than a baseball. I am going g to run a few more and then make a video on my final product. I am hoping to get a wax slug on a pie plate at 50 yards reliably. I think I am pretty close. 10 of the slug variants I made today shot just fine at 30 yards and maintained a 4inch group ( not bad for a smoothie and some ditch craft). I am making some more today. I also shot several uncut waxers and to my surprise they were just as accurate even though the barrel is way too big for the slugs base diameter but they worked fine and held a 4in @ 27yards. The cut shells and the waxers both love to tumble. The diff is that the waxer holds together if you do good work. ( yeah, you can make a shitty waxer ) and the cutshells flip the contents of the shot cup out randomly, alot of times once it loses some load it goes of track cuz the imbalance and stuff. Waxers are definitely better than cutters. The only ditchcraft that is as cheap and effective is a combination of the two. If you don't have an over or back board barrel I cannot recommend a waxed cutter ( play at your own risk type shit). Happy new year 2021
Just got home (9:30 pm here) after a 13 hours day at work. I Sit down, turn on the computer and hey! A new video from @TAOFLEDERMAUS
Just what I needed to lift my mood ^^
I feel your pain...
Lets hope for better days.
Working is better than no job, mate.
Right?! Just spent my day off pulling apart a Chrysler and after fighting that bitch for 7 hours and finally getting it back together I’m sore, greasy, and tired. But I get home after defeating that beast, to a nice reward!!
Agreed, after Taofledermaus it's Steve1989 and his MREs.
@@vertigo72480_official I agree. There is just something soothing about Steve's voice. Perfect chill-out videos
As always, great to stop by :) You got me on the "left and low" :) On to Buffalo's video.
Thank you Lars!!
We used to have an I.B. Proper range ..... but it was bought out by the Jack Meoff Exotic Dancers club
Officer Greg, is that you?
Small thing I like about this channel...when they go from camera to camera they record the audio and you hear their reactions on all the cameras. Kind of makes you aware they aren't fudging the footage.
Love you guys.
Yeah, we usually show every shot, good or bad.
@@taofledermaus love the production. I was watching one of your videos from about 10 years ago and was really enjoying the Skrillex like music playing over all the shots :)
You all really have this down now.
Is it bad that I always worry everytime you all play with the lead plate? Always worried while you all are "exploring" the holes made, you will cut yourself and instant lead poisoning...im very rational...yep
You guys are obsessed with wax now 😂😂😂🤣🤟🏿👍🏿 danny didn't look like he was too pleased with all this
The G Formula
Your right. These didn't live up to accuracy that I'm capable of. 😕. 🇺🇸😎
Hey Jeff, Flechette Wax Slug, plz?
You're asking him to go to his private top secret testing facility outside the Granola Curtain. Jeff lives in the PRK; flechette rounds are big "Nyet!"s to the commissars here...
I like your idea, but I want to suggest using "Sealing" or jewelers wax... (used for 'lost wax casting')... :)
i dont think you get how a wax slug works he explained it once its not the wax that holds everything together its only part of it, its the structure that the shot makes while its in the wax matrix that holds it together this is why flichets wont work it will just come apart
Loved the name of the "chute'in range!" The names crack me up 😆
UA-cam says we have to be at a proper shooting range, sooo
🤔 @@taofledermaus I always see proper procedure, backstops or plenty of distancing behind your targets. Nothing to see here, UA-cam. Carry on 😉
@@taofledermaus is this a new requirement for videos?
Always look forward to your videos. It is one of the 4 gun related channels I regularly watch, the others being OG's Dangershow, InRangeTv and Forgotten Weapons. Keep up the great videos!
ive finally found this channel again after years and im so happy 😁
Welcome back!
"California, everything seems to go left here... and low"
Exactly right
@@treytysinger1002 no, exactly left.
Jeff, good to hear Danny's voice.
Wonder what a large electrical cable cut into slugs would do. Big thick copper cable with heavy plastic insulation
2:14 it looks like the shot is motionless in mid air. It transferred all of its momentum to the plate.
I was just about to comment on the same thing. That looks really cool in the slow-mo.
Was typing the same thing out but you did it better :). Super cool clip
Wildman Danny on the particle accelerator
I was just over at duelist den, and got the notification. I love the waxers
> Shooting a 5TB hard drive like it's nothing in 2020
> People in 1980: 😳
People in the third world countries: 😳
Me:😳
And it was a WD Black 😥
Right? A child in Afrika could have eaten it... ;)
Left and Low? Yup, Anarchy
Fhtagn
Not even close.
2:06 Look at the group of shot stay suspended mid air, it imparted ALL of its energy wow that's cool.
It's almost sad. People have thousands of "good ideas" every day that last until they're tested.
That one that does pass the test though, that's what keeps us coming back.
So far none of his experiments are the epic level of stupid as mine. "Primer powered pellets" was utter fail.
@@alexcarter8807 Well hell, keep trying!
Danny fingering chinese armor is something ill never forget
I’m just surprised they’re goin through that hood for a wax slug wow 😳. Great video Mouse Wildman Danny and Officer Greg. Y’all be safe out there and GOD BLESS your families Amen 🙏
Thanks 👍
I'd rather just make cutshells Barry style! Simpler, and they work fine
The biggest improvement to those is using a shell cutter to just cut out the crimp so the wax slugs can't plunk out of the shell if racked into a pump action. (which can create a dangerous situation)
I've done a lot of experimenting on wax for black powder lube. Toilet ring wax is really gooey but it is tough stuff, it doesn't go to hell in the heat it just gets stickier. Paraffin for canning is nice and clean and dries hard but is brittle. If you really want a tough wax, melt down some long lasting survival candles. That stuff will hold together for a wax slug I bet.
Thanks guys! Love everything you do. Stay healthy and keep shooting!
Lesson learned: waxers are short-range only.
One of them had an extremely accurate proximity fuse!
lol
Love this channel. I think Jeff should put together a reloading manual for all of these interesting loads.
Your "Vic's 3D House of Beef" special effects while showing your crayon round was priceless :))...
Their back! I have missed the wax slugs. I actually wouldn't mind seeing a revisit of the wax slugs on modern targets and with the chronos camera. I don't remember if you already did this or not or I just missed it but if not then I would love to see it.
yeah, I need to show just the plain ones. I don't know if I have any footage with the Chronos or not.
The cloud of pellets that looked like it hovered during the slow mo on the first shot... thats cool
Cheap and easy like OG and me. You guys give us class buddy
I was just considering modifying my recent bird shot cartridge purchase. Science!
@Brian Landers google cut shotgun cartridges, the old timers would also open cartridges and pour wax into birdshot to make cheap slugs.
@Brian Landers seems like given the examples I've seen here and elsewhere it would go just fine at 7 yards. Unless they are wearing armor. But there are always bigger fish. But I could also see doing it wrong and having it break up st the muzzle. A box of 5 slugs or buckshot is pretty cheap.
Rifled chokes are real I got a rifled barrel for my Mossberg fully rifled.
What?
2:40 Danny lost some of his beard in a table fight
This might be my favorite method for maintaining data security I've ever seen 😆
Best way to improve user stress levels!
LOVELY!!!
Still... it's a promising idea and I love your wax slug concept.
It will work eventually... Keep up the wonderful work guys!!! :)
Thank you Saar!!
Yay Danny's back
At 10:10, I thought an OX Tools video started playing in another tab.
Hey Sailor - Letter Box
Great video and projectile testing, thank you, Jeff & Danny!
P.S. Be careful about shooting your wad too much, it could end up costing you for years and years!
lol thanks
Buffalo Outdoors is a great channel.
He really does a great job. Excellent shooter but modest about it.
"just throw it down on the ground...
Piece on Earth"
Haha, good one.
2:11 does indeed look fantastic with the shot apparently motionless before falling.
Playing at your local theater is...THE WAX SLUG..... O'no not that !.....PS those hard drives have some mighty strong Magnets in them.....Thin you'allllll....Carry on...!
Another great video from Tau and "Dead eye" Danny!
Glad you enjoyed it
Would melting a plastic welding stick and mixing the shot in be better? Maybe filling a metal mold to ensure even melting and distribution of the plastic would work. Or maybe I’m just blowing smoke?
Been waiting on this one.
Not as good as your video imho
Loved the California joke
Reiki is just thinking thanks for destroying the evidence
Maybe a piece of screen wire like on a screen door placed inside the wad before pouring the wax in the wad. Maybe that would help hold them together
"Keep it simple,Keep it cheap, keep it quick type of guy" Bet the missus isnt best pleased with that!!
"There's no firearms in the video"
Still you hear the pump.
Just the mass accelerator locking down.
I hate this kind censorship, guns aren't evil.
It's like watching porn without sex or showing genitals/breasts, or eating a hamburger with nothing but the bread (not even sesame seeds).
Rip barry
Can you make a video of how you guys remelt ballistic gel in your stainless steel mold? I think a lot of people would like to see how that's done since its so expensive to buy new each time. Also whats the website of that "CLEAR JELL" Company? Thanks for a great and fun channel. Yours truly, Officer Sims, LASD
Still blows my mind what that camera does, especially for the low cost of it. And Danny is a surgeon with that mass accelerator. Though Breanna is some pretty solid competition for him. Great video. Shame the slugs didn't work too well, but cool to watch regardless.
Poor Doug gets it every time man
Those of you that say "just make a slug", or "just do a cut shell" are missing the point. The fun of wax slug is in the explosive impact they have. The terminal ballistics. I have numerous slug molds, but still often make "Waxers" 'cause they're fun!!
I'm betting that with the info gained from this test, VettePilot Ballistics could make an improved version. Maybe they will. They put some nice effort into this one.
MORE WAXERS JEFF!!
“If Danny’s off it’s not his fault...”
Probably the whisky?
Solution to wax slugs - first, crayon wax is brittle so it's the last kind of wax you want to use. Another issue is that pellets or dust shot is being used to give it weight, which is good, except that they do nothing to preserve structural integrity and if anything, weaken it. Instead, I would suggest taking an approach similar to rebar reinforced cement or pykrete in that some sort of binder needs to be mixed with the wax - say a small, plastic mesh or fibers of some sort to help bind the whole thing together.
I'm thinking maybe braided fishing line with split shot attached to it so you have both weight and a binding/reinforcing agent.
Crayon wax has worked perfectly. Any wax barely holds it together. If there are any voids (where the shot doesn't stack perfectly, it is a breaking point and also throws off the balance- which seems to be the issue with these.
The projectile must be balanced for rifling to be effective.
Good work guys.
🙏🏽🙏🏽💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 Justifiable Jeff & Danny The Great!!!!!!! Another banger gentleman!
Was he using paraffin wax? And you used crayons? I’ve been doing lost wax castings as a hobby lately and the type of was plays a huge role some are very hard and brittle while others are a lot more mushy and low melting point like paraffin. Just an idea maybe a future video to be tested…
Bees wax is what I use. Doesn't shatter and sticks better to the wad. I'm now looking at using cast bullet lube. The White label lubes X-lox 2500. Very sticky and not likely to shatter, a lot like bees wax. And cheap.
Thanks! I always enjoy your videos
Glad you like them!
What about making a wax slug in a Diablo shaped casting? Maybe lose some weight because of size restrictions but proven design. Love all your videos! I learn so much
From the thumbnail it looks like the placement of the birdshot probably upsets the balance. Not nose heavy, but not tail heavy enough to do a flip in flight. I know each slug was different, but my hunch is a balance issue.
I wobble home from the tavern like that sometimes
Great shooting. I do not know how to reload slugs but it would be cool if someone used caulk or silicone to see if it stays together better.
I believe this concept needs revisiting with finer grain shot and possibly a sabot, but only for a few rounds.
I thought about doing this about a year ago with the c-lbc wad. I really wish we could buy those black wads that were in demo ranch's vid years ago. Black cylinder wads with the top that screws off so you can fill it with whatever you want
2:27 - Hillary Clinton still bothering you to dispose of her server drives today? The mad old witch!
A suggestion for the next wax slug test, use the wax from the top of several Maker's Mark Bourbon bottles. Like you said melt wax add shot from shotgun shells, pour, let cool, and shoot.
i think the type of wax you use would make a big difference and you could add things to the wax to change it's properties even more
KEEP THE GREAT VIDS COMING!!!
I want there to be commercially produced wax slugs. They have their uses. Do a lot of damage on the target and are somewhat accurate, but splatter after the first impact, reducing over penetration.
Jeff, years ago, IraqVeteran8888 had a video series about the "Little .410 That Could." Would you be able to do a video going over the topic in your own inimitable way?( yes, I am buttering you up a little 😉) I am curious about what the high speed camera would show. (Those little Brazilian .410s were cheap, but man are they tough.)
2:06 - Great example of momentum transfer! That's physics in action, folks. 😉
Something to brighten my morning!
I'd like to know what's in Winchester longbeard xr ? A great shotgun round for 50-60 yards !
Keep up the good stuff guys! Thanks
@11:15 - "Shooth Bore" - that was my nickname when I was on the debate team.
@12:38 - that was my nickname back in high school
curiosity question what would I have to do for you to test the Walmart 12-gauge shotgun barrel cleaning shells I use them the other day and was thinking I wonder how they fly in slow motion
Crazy idea melt plastic over the bird shot instead of wax.
I was legit doing this 8 years ago lol. This is great. Not as good as you'd like but better.
Weird mine were way better
Could you use flex seal instead of the wax, or maybe hot glue ??🤔
WOOOO love Buffalo!!!! 👍💯 Oh yeah... and y'all are good too. 🤣 Awesome video guys, thanks!!!
thanks!
OK I got my Crosman red-skirted non-lead 16.7gr pellets, they're called "Red Flight" these days, and are product number LF22167. I tried pulling one of the red skirts off and this can be done with the fingers - it reveals a little "tail" on the metal part of the pellet which should actually make it fly a bit better than if it didn't have one. Interesting! I can only get green ramset blanks so far, but will keep looking around for brown or grey ones.
So for now, we are best off using soup can ballistics. A worthy attempt at least.
I'd be interested to see tiny football slugs to see if the rifled barrel can keep a tight spiral.
"California windage" ---> this is why the slug's trajectory could not stay straight
You can use the steel shot cup and load with lead and wax
I have that rifled choke on my VR60. Best value upgrade to any Beretta Benelli Mobil choked shotgun.