Microphones: Large Diaphragm Condenser Shootout at Vintage King - Warren Huart - Produce Like A Pro
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2016
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When looking for a new microphone, you can spend countless hours or even days on blogs, review sites, reading articles and watching demo videos. The variety of microphones available is just as vast as the number of opinions on each of them.
How do you find the one microphone that really suits your needs and allows you to capture the high quality recordings that are looking for?
Should you pick up classic industry standards like the U68, U87, U47 or the Telefunken 251? Or maybe consider purchasing a modern clone of these microphones? How do these modern clones compare to the original classics?
What about new condenser microphones that are not trying to emulate anything and have their own modern character?
With this video, I want to help you to make an educated decision and choose perfect mic for you!
Vintage King was kind enough to let us use their showroom to test out a wide variety of large diaphragm condenser microphones:
We test over 20 microphones, ranging from $500- $10000, discuss their frequency response and unique characteristics. But most importantly, we'll give you insights on possible uses for each of these mics and discuss the main points to consider when choosing a microphone.
Produce Like A Pro is a website which features great tips to help the beginning recordist make incredible sounding home recordings on a budget.
Check out the microphones we reviewed:
➡️➡️Flea 47 with EF12 Tube: vintageking.com/flea-microphon...
➡️➡️Wunder CM7 GS M7: vintageking.com/wunder-audio-c...
➡️➡️Wunder CM7 S: vintageking.com/wunder-audio-c...
➡️➡️Telefunken U47: vintageking.com/telefunken-usa...
➡️➡️Slate VMS: vintageking.com/slate-digital-...
➡️➡️Soyuz SU-017 Large Diaphragm Condenser: vintageking.com/soyuz-su-017-l...
➡️➡️Mojave MA 300 (Tube): vintageking.com/mojave-audio-m...
➡️➡️Mojave MA 301 FET: vintageking.com/mojave-audio-m...
➡️➡️Placid Audio Copperphone: vintageking.com/placid-audio-c...
➡️➡️Gefell CMV 563 M7: vintageking.com/gefell-cmv-563...
➡️➡️Manley Reference Cardioid: vintageking.com/manley-referen...
➡️➡️Flea 49: vintageking.com/flea-microphon...
➡️➡️Peluso Lab P-87: vintageking.com/peluso-microph...
➡️➡️Telefunken 251: vintageking.com/telefunken-usa...
➡️➡️Bock 251: vintageking.com/bock-audio-251
➡️➡️Lauten LA-320 (Tube): vintageking.com/lauten-audio-s...
➡️➡️Shure SM7B: vintageking.com/shure-sm7b
➡️➡️Royer 122: vintageking.com/royer-labs-r-1...
➡️➡️Gefell UM 900 Halfmoon: vintageking.com/gefell-um900-h...
➡️➡️Peluso Lab P-67: vintageking.com/peluso-microph...
➡️➡️Manley Reference Gold: vintageking.com/manley-referen...
➡️➡️Pearlman TM 1: vintageking.com/pearlman-tm-1
A room with a million dollars worth of microphones and I still reach for a $300 bluebird. In my peasant world, this video is akin to a child visiting Disneyland. Snapping back to reality is a SOB. All of these mics are more expensive than my entire signal chain. Even still, 1.75hrs of pros diddling about is a pleasure to watch!
Thank you very much for the priceless video!!
U47 21:13 22:01 59:11 sm7 1:21:56 u67 1:24:52 1:25:52 59:07 58:32 reference gold 1:29:07 1:29:47 251 1:29:52 1:13:12 gefell 563 49:09 49:47 manley cardioid 53:59 flea 49 1:01:38 1:02:07 u87 1:08:04 1:08:10
One of your best videos! Very educational. Thank you. The Flea 49, Manley Gold, Telefunken 251 and Wunder 67 were my favorites.
You and Alex have great chemistry together in front of the camera! The video flew by
What's great is everybody comes back with a favourite microphone. Just goes to show we're not all the same, don't have the same ears, and most importantly there IS a mic out there, somewhere, that will be perfect for our taste and budget. Thanks for this great side-by-side, Warren and Alex!
One of the most informative videos I've seen you do, and the best one ever on mics. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to do it, it's much appreciated.
You're most welcome Larry! So glad you enjoyed the video! Special thanks to Vintage King for letting us come by and do this! I found it extremely rewarding and informative!! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
This is maybe the best shootout clip I ever saw. Thanks so much!
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It’s incredibly helpful.
Lots of GREAT input! Watched the entire segment and learned a lot. Thank you for putting all the together!
Holy 2 hour interview Batman... :-). These comparisons are extremely helpful, Warren. Thank you and Alex Oana for putting together these side-by-sides. I can't imagine how long the interview actually was before editing - but well worth it from my perspective. I am always appreciative and the time and dedication you put towards the community. Kudos and thank you.
Hi Kevin, thanks ever so much for the great comment! I really appreciate it! Haha yes it was a lonnnnggggg review!! Haha Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Well, after that, I'm sure it'll be a long time before I forget your name, Warren! Thanks to you and Alex for all of that -- this is by far the best microphone video I have ever seen!
Just picked up a Lauten Audio LA-320...I am so happy just to have my 320 in that room...wow. Truly pleased with just how good this mic sounds. Another great vid Warren. Cheers.
I keep watching this....Its amazing hearing people speak about microphones with such passion.. thanks again for posting
Thanks ever so much Kyle! Glad to be able to do this! Special thanks to Vintage King for letting us come by and do this! That was extremely generous of them! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Just amazing guys....what is great is your enthusiasm and knowledge and love of mics
I'm only a quarter of the way into the video and I love it. Warren, you're the man!
"One, two, one, two, two, two, two, one.... two."
-Warren Huart, 2016
I know João! One day I will learn how to say 'three'! Haha Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Ah, thanks, Mr. Huart! I'm really enjoying these gear shootouts. Keep up with the great work!
Thanks very much Joao!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thank you guys..probably my biggest lesson on microphones yet...vey informative!!
You just helped a whole bunch of folks. Thanks Warren!
Thanks Jeremy! I am so glad to help and very thankful to Vintage King for letting us come and check out all the mics! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
All flattery aside this is by FAR the best video on microphones on youtube.
It also reinforced my feelings on the reference Cardioid as my dream mic.
Cheers!
Thanks ever so much Luuk! That's extremely kind of you! So glad it was able to help, Vintage King were wonderfully kind to let us go through the whole collection and try them out!! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
It is also by FAR the longest video on UA-cam. I stopped after about 5 minutes of skipping around. :)
I watched the comparisson to the end wow. More exciting than some movies. Not 1 min too long. Thanks a lot for sharing!
I have to go get some coffee, this is as long as a movie, but much appreciated.
Hi Friends, Vintage King was kind enough to let us use their showroom to test a wide variety of large diaphragm condenser microphones. In this shootout, we test over 20 microphones in the $500- $10000 price range. We discuss their frequency response and unique characteristics, but most importantly, we'll share insights into possible uses for each of these mics and discuss the most important points to consider when choosing a microphone.
I hope this video will help you to narrow down your choices and find a microphone that will be a great asset for you in any given recording situation.
Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Here's to an amazing 2017! Happy New Year!
Thank you for this video.Was there a reason for not including the Neumann U-47 FET? I've been considering that mic,but I want to make sure that i'm getting the most for my $4k.
Hi NURREDIN, thanks for the comment! The U47 Fet wasn't specifically excluded, it just wasn't in Vintage King's Mic Booth to be demoed! I like them a lot. they are great mics! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Why so close to the Mics? I always find getting to close to the mics is too much proximity/low end. Do you always track that close??
By the way.... You Rock Warren
Hi D&R, yes sometimes I do! It depends on the effect I want to achieve! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks guys for the work and for sharing! That room is the best! Need to be back. Love both the Gefell 563 and the Bock 251. Cheers! G
Hi Giulio, I have to agree that I have a soft spot for the Gefell! It's a beautiful mic!! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren just has an ear for exactly what a mic is doing and he describes the whole image of it instantly. Amazing
Wow! Thanks ever so much!!
I love this! Thanks guys! I need to visit this room.
Thank you Warren... Great to hear these mics side by side. Indeed, Produced Like A Pro! Angelo, that is an Avid S3 peeking out from behind the monitor :-)
The manley reference did give telefunken a run for the money, it really did. Thanks for the amazing comparison, also really liked Alex and Vintage King, feeling very passionate about what he is doing!
Fun video guys. Thanks. The Gefell - such transparency. Clearly a step above the rest. Wow.
Thanks! Fantastic
This video is a big game-changer when it comes to Great microphones wow I have something to really think about thank you so much for this video wonderful
That Manley Reference and Telefunken U47 made my little heart go pitter-patter. Killer mics.
Tom Spriggs yep, they are both awesome.
Thanks ever so much Tom! Agreed! Both great mics!
@@officialWWM indeed!
These two were my favorite. I agree that the Manley was richer and broader while the Telefunken had a more precise and present sound. It's slight, but all things equal, I'd grab the first for a singer and the second for a studio-standard spoken word.
Love Vintage King! I've made many a purchase from them. Great service and great products. Thanks for the video, Warren!
Picked up a pair of WA-47s --- and they are AMAZING! And a fraction of the cost.
Great Shootout, thank you.
Totally geeked out on this, thanks guys.
Very good input by some amazing, experienced ears. Thanks! I am personally very sensitive to any phase problems, noise and associated grit or gravel in the mids, and lack of openess in the highs. Probably why I gravitate to magnetic planar speakers.
Not that there isn’t plenty of room for a bit of overall warmth and other mic-specific contour for acoustic sources , vocals and other such sources- and we all hear things differently to some extent; but often it’s a matter of the sound you are looking to get. I was amazed when I first listened to some of the Schoeps, Sontronics and interestingly recently the Townsend L-22 with the right pre-amp and related hardware/settings. Source is such a complex part of it all, as I was in a studio with Mariah Carey a while back and listened to her absolutely bury a few top mics that worked great for many other good singers. It is a complex game we play.
Thanks for this! I'm looking for a new vocal mic, so this was really useful :)
Fantastic Tiege! That's great to hear! Let us know what you end up choosing! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Seriously the Slate VMS is the best option if you’re having multiple singers in your studio. The flexibility to change mics in mixdown to match the singer or cut through a dense mix is worth it weight in gold. All at a great price point too. I own 2 of them and they are well worth it.
nicely done guys!
Thanks GaragebandandBeyond! I really appreciate it! You have a great channel my friend!! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Those Mojaves are incredibly impressive. I was listening with my phone in my pocklet and as soon as Warren tested the MA300 I thought "wait a minute what was THAT" and pulled my phone out to see it. If I didn't already have a tube condenser I love (a CU29) I would absolutely consider getting an MA300.
Love Mojave gear
Those 251's were just audio velvet. Rich and smooth and so tasty. Love these Vintage King videos.
Thanks louderthangod! Agreed, all rather wonderful! Yes thanks to Vintage King for letting us come by! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
So glad i watched this! Thanks
Long video, but a great one. One of your best yet! Thank you so much. Going to a professional mastering studio tomorrow to sit in on a session and hopefully will help me get to the next level on my journey. Very excited.
Thanks very much Casey!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I saw a few times where they got an old, and I mean really olde piece of classy kit cleaned and repaired it. As a gear snob and demo studio engineer I would very much like to see more of that. Now that's porn good satisfying and often just as dirty . Thanks
this was amazing, thank you guys
excellent shootout. i learned a great deal.
Great test. Very educational. Was hoping you'd test the Gefell M930, but it was still great. Thanks Gentlemen!!
When is the wedding? Sheesh!! Glad you two enjoyed yourselves. It was nice to watch. Excellent content!
Might be the best video on youtube!
That was illuminating! Thanks Warren and Happy New Year!
Thanks noisesoundtonevibe! I really appreciate it! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Excellent insights, thanks Warren.
Warren this was WONDERFUL...the Vintage King videos to me, have been your best. I think a quarterly produce like a pro - V.K.VIDEO SERIES is in order. The 500 Series V.K. and now this V.K. Mic shootout are clearly in my top five P.L.A.P segments. Happy 2017 everyone..
Thanks ever so much official patrik jay, thanks very much! I really enjoy making these videos with Vintage King! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great to see these mics scrutinized together. They all sound great...I did like the Manley sound from a mixer/engineer perspective. As always, useful and interesting show. Thank you Warren & Vintage King : -)
Thanks Arthur! You Rock! I appreciate your kind words and I agree the Manley sounded amazing! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
For Slate manual said it should be -12dBFS so it does depend on your incoming level, so if hitting 0 then cut 12dB. VMS sounds great on this though
There’s value in “fair fight” comparisons based on neutral pre’s, etc. But sometimes I’d like to hear shoot outs with gear in their elements. This is what these mic’s are known for and compare each at their “best”. A more contextual approach. Thanks for sharing.
Really Really cool video getting to hear the differences between such great mics!
Thanks ever so much Eric!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
awesome video from the Mastreo ... i have been on a Neumann hunt and i just have a small home studio for guitar and vocals... and i went with the TLM103 i cant wait to give it a go
The Low End on the Bock was incredible!!! Smooth Clean and bot "Boomy". It was more present in the low end than the Telefunken... I wouldn't say it was a better thing to have but if you have it its awesome! Also I wanted to see the Bock VS the Neumann U87... I can imagine the results but hearing it would have been nice.
The mojave MA- 300 tube condenser has a continuous polar pattern also. This video is exactly what I needed. Im ready to purchase a monster microphone. And all the contestants were included here. I love the ELAM 251 and the Manley Reference and Gold. I love the Halfmoon and the Pearlman and the Wunders and the Slate and the ........ the Mojave Fet was great too. I own the tube MA-300 and i love it but had a tube issue after 10 months.
Thanks for a very very very good comparison! My favorites are Gefell CMV 563 M7, Telefunken U47 and the Manley Gold.
Hi Claes, thanks for the great comment! I must admit to a soft spot for the CMV 563! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Don’t even know anything about microphones, but this was fascinating! Brilliant video and comparison! Can feel the passion!
Thanks ever so much
Thanks so much for doing this. Very helpful. Bock 251 I liked the best. Also liked the
Wunder cm67 S.
You're most welcome Darryl! Yes, the Bock is a wonderful mic! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren,
Thank you for showing everyone the ins and outs of each of these mics. I have a vintage U87 already and through research (and this video) I have really fallen for the FLEA 47. I was also glad to see some of the other high end microphones that I will end up buying later on in my career. Can't wait to see some more exciting videos in 2017! Cheers!
Thanks very much DarkenTheNight! That's very kind of you! The FLEA 47 is an amazing mic! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
So great !!!!! 🎼🎤yesterday I buyed the bock 251 and now I see we have the same conclusion about this one what great channel bro you the One 🙏🏾👌
This is one heck of a shootout!!
Thanks ever so much!
Gunter Wagner in Australia makes a U47 with the original capsule, he makes the capsule, I understand he used to work for Neumann before moving to Australia
Wow, thank you for this! Super helpful video.
You’re very welcome
What a fucking good video!! It’s so immersive that the time wasn’t noticed at all!! A lot of things to learn about mics! Thank you!!!
Alex Oana! what a wonderful person, smart and unassuming! Great video guys.
Thanks ever so much
I thought the Manley Gold and Mojave 300 sounded excellent. Bock 251 too. Thanks for the vid!
A place like VK is what I miss about living in Los Angeles. I think it's time for an hour and half drive.
ive been looking at the lauten 320 it sounds great on everything ive heard and watched, also the Bock 251 sounded great, the wunder stuff if you weren't going with brand names and more of the brands not as many know about, great video.
I laughed out loud after 1:35:30 when Alex did an impression of Warren's voice! It was so good he could ADR movie scenes for Warren! 😂
i was in search of a microphone and this video has changed my mind..i've to buy at least 2 or 3 mics for different types of vocalist !! really very interesting video. thanks a lot !!
Great presentation and insights ,Thank you and all the Best in 2017!!
Thanks ever so much!! I really appreciate it! I;m glad you enjoyed the way we did it, wasn't very scientific, just a couple of guys listening and giving their opinions! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The Bock 251was considerably more bassy and boomy then the telefunken on my vxt krk 8 monitors, the headphones probably werent allowing you guys to hear that difference but it was very noticeable on my monitors. Thanks for doing this episode Warren, very good.BTW imho that Manley Gold sounded awesome.
You're right, but it's clear the Bock has more bass/boom. You (well, I) can even hear it on basic speakers.
bock removed the low cut from the 251 circuit to open up the low end. not necessary for 251 application imo
This guys been so nice, that I like my Raven more now.
Great video. What a "candystore" I want them all.
Thanks for the awesome videos Warren!
You're welcome Jon!! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
To be honest, I didn't really have high expectations when I started to watch this quite long comparison video, but boy was it eye- (ear?) opening. Very informative as well.
Thanks Alex and Warren!
Hi Ati, agreed nearly 2 hours is a LONG video so thank you for getting through it! We thought about doing a 2 part video, but I'm glad we didn't!! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I'd love to hear this test again with some more variety like the less expensive Telefunken range and the Warm 251 and 87.
Great idea!!
thanks for this video! very interesting and fun to watch!!
I listened through the comparison on a very good chain (audeze LCD-3 and Antelope Eclipse) so I could definitely hear big differences all the time - and I also tried to listen blind while Warren was doing it. I am Glad I own the Telefunken U47. Someday I need to get the Tele 251, for my taste the "best" ones.
Thanks for doing this again!!!
Hi soundpurestudio, thanks very much for your great comment! Great to hear that you can hear all of the subtle differences! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I'm currently recording with a Blue Baby Bottle SL, but I think you may have sold me on the Lauten LA-320. Can't believe I actually made it through the whole video! lol
nice job guys. really helpful
Thanks very much
This video is PRICELESS.👏👏👏
Owing the Manley ref c makes me smile
A really great valuable video!
Thanks ever so much
A few months back I got together with some other musicians and engineers to evaluate the Slate Digital vs the microphones it emulates and I was blown away. Although some emulations sound closer to the "real thing" than others (and we also need to consider that same model mics themselves have small variations between them) I think that for the price, it's an amazing purchase and would definitely recommend anyone to at least give it a try. It's amazing that you included it in this shootout and congratulations to Alex for working in it. I will be buying one as soon as I can.
Also Warren, do you think it would be interesting to do this test with a couple of singers and include some other more affordable microphones? Maybe in the 300-400 range?
You're the best! Best regards all the way from Lisbon.
Every one of those condenser mics sounded fantastic. I'd love to have any of them. If I were in there and had to choose one I wouldn't know what to do.
Lisa Murphy get Aston Spirit, can't go wrong with it really, the best mic-per-pound I know
Millmoor Michael Okay maybe next time. I just got the Neumann 102 today. That one isn't too shabby and wasn't killer expensive either.
This is so cool to hear all these mics. Thanks, Warren! I know you hate the metaphorical adjectives, but when you got to the first Gefell, and you were struggling for the right word, I was thinking "say it's flat!" And you did. My theory is that we're so used to hearing scooped or hyped stuff that flat sounds odd, maybe a little harsh by comparison.
Thanks Ken! Haha yes, I think you busted me!! Haha The Befell is pretty awesome! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks for the incredibly informative shootout. At the end of the day, choosing a mic is about capturing sound, and there's no way for a digital emulator to capture the intricacies of the sound of a voice. The VMS sounds great for the price, but it doesn't have the detail and warmth of the other mics. I'd still love to try it out at some point as a vocalist. One big factor that's not explored here is how the mics respond to volume changes in the performance. It would be cool to hear a shootout with a few professional singers.
Great video chaps!
Thanks very much Chris!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Love your stuff. Warren. Keep it up. U should do more home studio. Tyler ward etc. love everything u do
Hi zukaitisfamily, thanks very much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!! Yes, that's a wonderful idea! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thank you Warren! Alex is great guy and very talented engineer ... knew him from St. Olaf College and I had him master our EP before he moved to LA from Minneapolis. Would love to visit VK! Thanks for the virtual experience. Cheers! Todd
Hi Todd, yes, I agree! Alex is great guy and very talented! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Bock 251, it will be mine!!!!!
i think this is the best video on youtube to compare the top class high end micrphone
Wow! Thanks ever so much K C
almost 2 hours it was like 10minutes trust me if u passionate u wont notice ,thank you guys
Thanks ever so much
@@Producelikeapro that was the best tutorial i know what i need
Think I'm sold on the Slate VMS at this point. Been researching it for awhile and this kind of put me over the edge. Already love most of Slate's plugins it really seems like they know what they're doing over there in this digital age yet he consistently keeps things affordable.
Hi Rob, that makes perfect sense to me! Glad to be able to help! Yes the VMS provides a huge bang for the buck! Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Would be really cool to see the new Warm Audio WA-87 in one of these shootouts. Thanks for great content as always
Yes that would be great andYz00m! Here's to a wonderful and Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
andYz00m compare the wa87 to the 3u warbler. spec wise seem to be the same mic
Warren I know you said you owned the peluso 67. Can you get pro sound from peluso 87? I been looking into there mics.
Dear Sir, I watched almost all of your videos, they have very important content and I can only have one request, especially in your device demonstration and comparison videos, I would be much happier if you make your personal experience towards the end of the video, because when there is too long conversation the listener can get tired and lose concentrate, of course, Your personal opinion an experience is very important, but to be able to hear the result of the device is also important. I do my job in Turkey Istanbul, where the distributors are bringing their products here only when they receive orders from the clients. So your videos are helping us before choosing. Thank you so much for all the videos you posted.
Thank you, Warren. Really appreciate all of the time, effort and dedication that you devoted into this (and other videos that you recorded and shared). A question for you, if that's ok... If you had $5k or less for a U47 clone, which do you feel best embodies the best of the vintage U47 sound? the FLEA 47? Boch 47? Soundelux e47? Or, what about some of the smaller hand-made boutique mic makers like Chad Kelly's Signal Art Electronics "U47 Premium Reference Edition"? Thanks for sharing your opinion and thoughts.
the Telefunken ELAM 251 and the Manley Gold are my favourites...
mine as well man