You can tell they probably not in regular communication with each other. They just showed up to the versus. If they had of had a plan and brought some of the other members it could of been more competitive
Rapper who are tied to certain establishments become stagnated. Nothing to do with the streets. Diddy had a dip, Jay Z had a dip/ no longer cares about his appearance etc etc. Big money hinders consistent money. It's all power plays
@ Stacks swag was his persona and how he ran his crew. How he flowed like he had it when he was still living that pain that Jim was far removed from! Jim kept them ones around who still in the trenches even when he wasn’t ala the goodies as well as his 1st Byrdgang click of rappers!
Appreciate you giving UNKASA mad love I grew up wit him back in the days I’ll hold him down too if he was around me Small in stature but heart of a lion Truly a good dude 🙏🏾💪🏽🫡🍾💰
You always say support dipset but you stay hating on cam. It's so obvious your problem with him. It's funny. He never stopped them from using Dipset brand . The real money making brand. Something must've happened during your DVD run that rubbed you wrong.
Yall get on this app and just say anything no matter how stupid it is..Nas only wore pink in the Street Dreams video because it was based off Robert Deniro's character (Sam Rothstein) from the movie Casino, who wore colorful suits..Nas was NOT wearing pink in real life as a fashion statement. Smh
Cam put the whole Harlem on & he’s one of the most enterprising innovative hustlers in hip hop history. He also was very selfless in sharing the limelight with guys out the neighborhood. Cam was the brains of the operation, Jim was the spirit. It seems to me Cam wasn’t with some of the extra curricular street sh*t Jim had going as well. Cam neutral, not with the all the gang affiliations, kept his crew more Harlem New York.
Thank you I see another player in tha comments dat understands loyalty…niggaz can’t name another crew dat Jim could’ve ran with & got tha position cam put him in I’ll wait…
That performance was epic. Jim and his crew looked like they weren't ready and they weren't unified. They looked like they didn't care. The Lox were on point. Even the DJ was on point.
You ain’t lying, born and raised in Harlem and that’s all they do. I wasn’t raised that way but they are parts of Harlem where it’s like that. Uptown vs downtown, west vs east. 40’s vs 50’s etc…
I’m from Harlem, and this the truest perspective of DipSet unfortunately! It’s crazy cuz an outsider is more on point than these recent blogs from so called Harlem niccas. They wanna ride the wave of Cam cuz of he hot but real ones know Jim been holding Harlem down for years.
He addressed all of them indirectly but directly about the things that each said about he did it strategically and I’m proud of him because he showed growth mentally in how he said it
Wisdom of the day: Even if you have millions, some people still can't get over their insecurities! Jimmy, been winning from time! Y'all know Ma$e, is a beast on the mic!
All Facts Gully. I've always said myself that night that if Cam would've let Jimmy cook with "We Fly High (Ballin)" "Harlem" or "Pop Champagne" the crowd would've went nuts for Dipset and they would've definitely had the momentum swing their way to at least make it a draw in some people's eyes.
Cam had horse and carriage and what mean the world to you, both hits before dipset. I didn’t care for his style but he still raps better than Jim to this day you tweakin with this commentary 💯
Yea he saw a lane that just so happened to cut across the highway from the fast lane to the exit ramp at the last possible second that cut his entire crew off and they all crashed and when jim hit the off ramp he was going way to fast and lost it. Rolled his joint. Killed everybody in his car and he bled out.
Gully…… im from Harlem andddddd that pink era didn’t hit as hard as you think. And saying jim is sum sort of slum fashion icon is kinda off too. In all those eras with the exception of the jersey big team custom jacket era jim has been dressing 10 years younger than his age and that is NOT the flow of NYC people of age during the changes clothes era with Jay z big n puff. Jim influenced teenagers. Nobody his age was dressing in those child clothes except for the teenagers he was running with.
Jim Jones face on Mt Rushmore is crazy af and from the same era bro not a poll you would ever get results that are even close! No one outside of your Stan’s would agree with this Take! An absolute ridiculous take!!!
Its a touchy situation with them because they seemed to be friends before the fame, but at the same time they technically had a boss and employee relationship. Think about being on a job your supervisor may have a good relationship with you but they aren’t going out there way to pull you up to their level. Either way they both have had very good careers and it sucks that they aren’t still working together.
Yes Jim's a hustler but can I ask u a question Jim says he's a boss better then cam but let me no one of his artists coming out with a album not a mixtape is that how bosses move
Gully seem like u got sum against cam u gotta be delusional to think Jim was flyer then cam Jim use to be the Jersey & bandanna wearing hype man & he ain’t originally from Harlem don’t forget dat🫤🙄
This was Real ✊🏿💯 Jim took it & ran with it.... Directed damn near every diplomat videos if not put it together & perfected his Flow. Definitely got lots of bangers
Def don’t buy him saying Cam got the pink swag from him and Jim didn’t have a good project till the Ghost of Rich Porter mf was the wackest rapper in Dipset for majority of the time only ahead of Freaky Zeeky! Jim used to dress like he was a rockstar and couldn’t have been the freshest when he wasn’t getting no frontline money until Ballin popper
Much Respect Gully, from overseas. I'm a fan also and I must say you hit it on the head. The catalogue of the Diplomats and Dip Set is vast and lyrically murderous and should have knocked The Lox out of the park. (I still listen to Cam mixtapes and Dipset Freestyles). The talent is all there but Camron is not a good leader. This is the reason for the loss at MSG and the demise of the group.
Then justifying sum sucka shit jim did when he ran ova to fif to spite cam…Jim jones female traits & use dat tuff guy gang image as a facade Jim ain’t never been in no real drama dat we know of & tha ones he did have he ran & stood down 50 yr old goofy mf still jealous of cam & mase friendship “ HYPE MAN JIM”🥺😟
You ain’t lying, born and raised in Harlem and that’s all they do. I wasn’t raised that way but they are parts of Harlem where it’s like that. Uptown vs downtown, west bs east. 40’s vs 50’s etc…
Cam was hollering byrdgang before Jim. Once Jim starting hollering BG ,Cam said he asked Jim if he wanted to do something with the Byrdgang name ,and Jim said no. THATS when Cam locked in the name so no one else could get it.
I’ll say this, Cam became a rap super star when he signed with the Roc & dropped his Rocafella Album that had hey Ma, and Oh Boy. Juelz, Jim, and dip set, came after that Gully. Cam blew them dudes up. He put them on his biggest songs on his two mega rockafella albums, come home with me & Killa Season. He introduced them niggazs to the world, he signed Juelz and dropped his 1st Album. He has had Jim on every 1 of his Albums before he knew how to rap. Cam put out 40cal. Jr Writer, Juelz, Hell Rell, & Freeky 1st Albulms. He put Un & all them dudes on both Diplomatic Immunity Albums. Without Cam u wouldn’t know none of these dudes. They all did New York shady and back door shit. Cam mom got sick, he let Juelz out his deal and he fell back.
You are 100% right I had to get up out of there it's a few loves amount of brothers but the majority is so shitting on each other every chance they get
Real talk N.O.E had bars... Was my favorite BG artist. People fronted on him because of the jigga comparison but I still listen to him. I could imagine hearing him on some griselda tracks or something of that nature
Cam admitted to copywriting Byrdgang because he asked Jim if he was going to venture off and Jim said no, then he finds out he did it anyway so he copy wrote it
“ yall want me to talk about the Jim jones interview”😂😂 nobody was waiting for u to talk about it
😮 i agree
That’s why they took a mean “L” during that verzuz! No cohesion at all!
@@MrKwillis87 facts
The Lox been the most tight knit group in the game! True brothers for real that is a real NY Hip Hop group the got natural chemistry
You can tell they probably not in regular communication with each other. They just showed up to the versus. If they had of had a plan and brought some of the other members it could of been more competitive
Nobody watched that interview and said “I wonder what gully tv think about this interview”
Jimmy is too involved with the streets. I think that is why he hasn't gotten as far as he should. Cam ain't going to allow this to stop his money.
Rapper who are tied to certain establishments become stagnated. Nothing to do with the streets. Diddy had a dip, Jay Z had a dip/ no longer cares about his appearance etc etc. Big money hinders consistent money. It's all power plays
When buddy said he took Stack Bundles swag he wasn’t talking about his clothes 😂😂😂stay with us bro!
Explain what swagger was taken from a Guy from Farrock by a Harlem nigga
@ Stacks swag was his persona and how he ran his crew. How he flowed like he had it when he was still living that pain that Jim was far removed from! Jim kept them ones around who still in the trenches even when he wasn’t ala the goodies as well as his 1st Byrdgang click of rappers!
Appreciate you giving UNKASA mad love
I grew up wit him back in the days
I’ll hold him down too if he was around me
Small in stature but heart of a lion
Truly a good dude 🙏🏾💪🏽🫡🍾💰
Jim started the separation when he started claiming Fake Blood. And he started bringing all those BK dudes around. Jim did all of that.
You always say support dipset but you stay hating on cam. It's so obvious your problem with him. It's funny. He never stopped them from using Dipset brand . The real money making brand. Something must've happened during your DVD run that rubbed you wrong.
Nah you wilding about camron not being up there ,
His name is capo, a capo works for the family and not himself
Damn😮 Straight facts.
Jacket is🔥🔥🔥
Gully agrees with Jim betrayal yeah gully this just showing your true colours right here
It’s tha libra in him..maybe Jim a libra too smh
Facts Jim held stacks and max b back to further his career need a say more
Jimmy new name is sammy
Nah don't blame it on the Libra 🙏🏾😂@@gleeshchicity1705
Jim did not betray Cam stop repeating Cams lies. Cam & Jim were already publicly beefing when Jim & 50 linked up.
NAS DID THE PINK IN 1996 HOW IS ANYBODY GETTING CREDIT FOR POPULARIZING PINK⁉️ ESCO BOUGHT THAT TO THE GAME
My child hood hero’s letting me down
People did the Moonwalk before MJ but MJ made it global...
People did pink before Cam but Cam made it global... Simple
YOU RIGHT PLAYBOY PEOPLE QUICK TO FORGET 💪💪💪
Yall get on this app and just say anything no matter how stupid it is..Nas only wore pink in the Street Dreams video because it was based off Robert Deniro's character (Sam Rothstein) from the movie Casino, who wore colorful suits..Nas was NOT wearing pink in real life as a fashion statement. Smh
ANOTHER CASE OF NAS MAKIN IT A HOT LINE.. AND SOMEBODY ELSE MAKIN IT A HOT SONG
That’s real about uptown cats they love to stunt on each other. Look at those old Rocafella videos with Dame snapping on his crew.
Cam put the whole Harlem on & he’s one of the most enterprising innovative hustlers in hip hop history. He also was very selfless in sharing the limelight with guys out the neighborhood. Cam was the brains of the operation, Jim was the spirit. It seems to me Cam wasn’t with some of the extra curricular street sh*t Jim had going as well. Cam neutral, not with the all the gang affiliations, kept his crew more Harlem New York.
Thank you I see another player in tha comments dat understands loyalty…niggaz can’t name another crew dat Jim could’ve ran with & got tha position cam put him in I’ll wait…
Jones is the flyest of all them dudes 😎
Facts
😂😂😂 but cam got all the money
@@NewSuedefacts
That performance was epic. Jim and his crew looked like they weren't ready and they weren't unified. They looked like they didn't care. The Lox were on point. Even the DJ was on point.
Cam is about to tell it all 😂😂😂😂😂
He got to bring the Pepsi back out lol
In a robe 👘 😂
Cam writing the opening season bars for the new episode.
You mean Cams about to tell lies to make himself the victim
Always enjoy watching your show Gully, great content!👌
I love when Gully do these breakdowns !!!
Man I was going to message you to speak on this!!! Ha!!!! You were the one guy I wanted to hear from about this above everyone.
You ain’t lying, born and raised in Harlem and that’s all they do. I wasn’t raised that way but they are parts of Harlem where it’s like that. Uptown vs downtown, west vs east.
40’s vs 50’s etc…
Facts Dat Part 💯 Great breakdown of the diplomat movement
I’m from Harlem, and this the truest perspective of DipSet unfortunately!
It’s crazy cuz an outsider is more on point than these recent blogs from so called Harlem niccas. They wanna ride the wave of Cam cuz of he hot but real ones know Jim been holding Harlem down for years.
🔥🔥🔥 You Cooking On High My Guy.
Didn’t Jimmy carry Max B like a chump?
Yea Gully that was good👏🏽💪🏾
He addressed all of them indirectly but directly about the things that each said about he did it strategically and I’m proud of him because he showed growth mentally in how he said it
Yooooo Nj, felt like that tooo! Like they call us savages but damn!!! But Harlem eat they own No Cap 🎓 and Gown!!! 😮
Wisdom of the day: Even if you have millions, some people still can't get over their insecurities! Jimmy, been winning from time! Y'all know Ma$e, is a beast on the mic!
Im from brooklyn and that has always been the fabric of Dudes from harlem, not all but a whole lot of them.
If it wasn’t for cam Jim wouldn’t even be an artist….
This was an excellent dialogue Gully
All Facts Gully. I've always said myself that night that if Cam would've let Jimmy cook with "We Fly High (Ballin)" "Harlem" or "Pop Champagne" the crowd would've went nuts for Dipset and they would've definitely had the momentum swing their way to at least make it a draw in some people's eyes.
It would’ve never been draw but I agree that Jim should’ve rocked out. Jada took the energy away from the Dips when he did the Who Shot Ya freestyle
He started snapping when somebody said he was hating😂😂😂
@@Bubjohnson factoid
That 50 move was trash
Jimmy did get his solo status from it 😂😂
That Jim move was expected.
@@kingsports1113No Jim already released ballin a year before that. Dipset was already publicly broken up when Jim & Cam linked up.
Dipset was already publicly broken up & beefing when Jim & 50 linked up. Jim didn't owe Cam loyality after that.
There's no getting around that one
You buggin on that one Gully, confession of 🔥, come home with me 🔥
Cam had horse and carriage and what mean the world to you, both hits before dipset. I didn’t care for his style but he still raps better than Jim to this day you tweakin with this commentary 💯
Damn Gully, you on point with this one!!
Gully I totally agree with your observation on the Diplomats. Jim saw his lane and went to work.💯
Yea he saw a lane that just so happened to cut across the highway from the fast lane to the exit ramp at the last possible second that cut his entire crew off and they all crashed and when jim hit the off ramp he was going way to fast and lost it. Rolled his joint. Killed everybody in his car and he bled out.
Gully…… im from Harlem andddddd that pink era didn’t hit as hard as you think. And saying jim is sum sort of slum fashion icon is kinda off too. In all those eras with the exception of the jersey big team custom jacket era jim has been dressing 10 years younger than his age and that is NOT the flow of NYC people of age during the changes clothes era with Jay z big n puff. Jim influenced teenagers. Nobody his age was dressing in those child clothes except for the teenagers he was running with.
Jim Jones face on Mt Rushmore is crazy af and from the same era bro not a poll you would ever get results that are even close! No one outside of your Stan’s would agree with this Take! An absolute ridiculous take!!!
Gully mad because Flee is not accessible like the rest of the guys 😂. Cam out here elevating and not staying in the streets.
Its a touchy situation with them because they seemed to be friends before the fame, but at the same time they technically had a boss and employee relationship. Think about being on a job your supervisor may have a good relationship with you but they aren’t going out there way to pull you up to their level. Either way they both have had very good careers and it sucks that they aren’t still working together.
Members of byrdgang vol 1 is my favorite mixtape of all time
Jimmy had to pop back at these dudes
“Pardon the fabrics though” 😂
This was dope. You know niggas luv to hear about THE SET. Shout lil buzz PA Dre btw...PILLMATIC!!!
“Bird gang Money, Bird gang that track cold man
Dribble spit one 16 next project to show the youngins.
Yes Jim's a hustler but can I ask u a question Jim says he's a boss better then cam but let me no one of his artists coming out with a album not a mixtape is that how bosses move
Diplomats were not the same as DIPSET in the Streets..
Nature always held his own
from Q.B ?????????
@@izzapierccce8618Haaa wut QB Nature gotta do wit it? Lol
😁😁😁
Nah, the thumbnail is WILD!!!
Gully a fool for that 😂😂😂
how did cam make it to banned on tv if he was so wack ????
Funny you mention Max, because Max says the same things about Jimmy that Jimmy says about Cam.
We not gonna acknowledge that Cam changed his flow like JR!!
Cam k!lled Banned from TV‼️
But Nature had the best verse!
Gully seem like u got sum against cam u gotta be delusional to think Jim was flyer then cam Jim use to be the Jersey & bandanna wearing hype man & he ain’t originally from Harlem don’t forget dat🫤🙄
Naa Jim was the flyest. You can tell now. He still is.
Only joint Jim had solo was Ballin and Certified gangsta.
Yes sir!!! West Philly did it first! That is correct!
This was Real ✊🏿💯 Jim took it & ran with it.... Directed damn near every diplomat videos if not put it together & perfected his Flow. Definitely got lots of bangers
The Rucker park was way before the Jim and 50 calab lol
Def don’t buy him saying Cam got the pink swag from him and Jim didn’t have a good project till the Ghost of Rich Porter mf was the wackest rapper in Dipset for majority of the time only ahead of Freaky Zeeky! Jim used to dress like he was a rockstar and couldn’t have been the freshest when he wasn’t getting no frontline money until Ballin popper
Hell Rell was 🔥 Super Dope💯
Keep winning Gully, finish em. “Get over here”
This Guy thinks he’s on Cam’s level🤣🤣🤣
Much Respect Gully, from overseas. I'm a fan also and I must say you hit it on the head. The catalogue of the Diplomats and Dip Set is vast and lyrically murderous and should have knocked The Lox out of the park. (I still listen to Cam mixtapes and Dipset Freestyles). The talent is all there but Camron is not a good leader. This is the reason for the loss at MSG and the demise of the group.
I'm from west philly and I'm 43 now, we was ro king the pink pole and Tommy hil rugbys back in middle school
Real talk gully
😅😅😅Why gully didn't get busy wit dude with the knee pads on😅😅😅 gully dnt get busy🎉
UA-camrs tough these days
Then justifying sum sucka shit jim did when he ran ova to fif to spite cam…Jim jones female traits & use dat tuff guy gang image as a facade Jim ain’t never been in no real drama dat we know of & tha ones he did have he ran & stood down 50 yr old goofy mf still jealous of cam & mase friendship “ HYPE MAN JIM”🥺😟
Ppl be on here just saying anything to feel like they part of something. Death to the internet too many nobody’s wit voices
You ain’t lying, born and raised in Harlem and that’s all they do. I wasn’t raised that way but they are parts of Harlem where it’s like that. Uptown vs downtown, west bs east.
40’s vs 50’s etc…
Salute! Good Breakdown... Gotta give Funk Flex his props he pushed the hell outtta Diplomats & Jim Record "Balling"
Right! The pink polo is a Philly 1st thing.
i mean if killa aint in ya top5 he def top 5 of harlem
Cam was hollering byrdgang before Jim. Once Jim starting hollering BG ,Cam said he asked Jim if he wanted to do something with the Byrdgang name ,and Jim said no. THATS when Cam locked in the name so no one else could get it.
💯%FAX!. Never was love in that group! Every man for self.
Jim look crazy when 50 threw the bait but I think Cam is low key hating, that Jim is doing his thing.
That boy could’ve unleashed all of Jim’s street anthems and they still would’ve lost that Lox verzus
I agree with everything said especially “Harlem Culture” 🫡
Yes cam did go behind Jim back a copy right Byrd gang that is why vampire life was born
I'll get a cd 4my grandma she's the only 1 left with a cd player🤣🤣🤣
Cam's first Roc-A-Fella Album was a Dipset Album he only had 2 joints by himself the rest was him pushing Lz & Jim & even Zeek thru the whole album.
I’ll say this, Cam became a rap super star when he signed with the Roc & dropped his Rocafella Album that had hey Ma, and Oh Boy. Juelz, Jim, and dip set, came after that Gully. Cam blew them dudes up. He put them on his biggest songs on his two mega rockafella albums, come home with me & Killa Season. He introduced them niggazs to the world, he signed Juelz and dropped his 1st Album. He has had Jim on every 1 of his Albums before he knew how to rap. Cam put out 40cal. Jr Writer, Juelz, Hell Rell, & Freeky 1st Albulms. He put Un & all them dudes on both Diplomatic Immunity Albums. Without Cam u wouldn’t know none of these dudes. They all did New York shady and back door shit. Cam mom got sick, he let Juelz out his deal and he fell back.
That wasn't his 1st album 😂
@@giovannicarter3076 it was his 1st album on rocafella.
You are 100% right I had to get up out of there it's a few loves amount of brothers but the majority is so shitting on each other every chance they get
Classic cook…great analysis
byrd gang without Max B is a joke that album aint even recoup
We remember tht interview on hot 97 Jim 😂
That fight at rucker was way before the 50 cent show
Cam put the hole world on😂😂😂
Real talk N.O.E had bars... Was my favorite BG artist. People fronted on him because of the jigga comparison but I still listen to him. I could imagine hearing him on some griselda tracks or something of that nature
Cam learned the business side of the industry.
Amen!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Cam admitted to copywriting Byrdgang because he asked Jim if he was going to venture off and Jim said no, then he finds out he did it anyway so he copy wrote it
Word. I saw when Cam said this too. If he really asked Jim first and Jim said no I don't see the problem.
Good video bro
These UA-camrs delusional AF & will say anything 😂😂
Selling cd’s champ?
I was there for it ALL me and duke da god did all the mixtapes DIPSET MANIA !!!!! MORE THAN MUSIC !!!!!!!
" Ima spend my cake /and Jimmy ima get u up outta 5H"
"Jimmy ima make sure ya jewels is rocky /cause my plans is long term like Mr Miyagi"