Because some people know you don't "teach" jack shit by telling someone how to do it. Least of all a bunch of school kids who may not have the slightest fucking interest in being a "craftsman".
The best demonstration of an art almost gone, hopefully the young pick up on the art and skills of an honorable position, congratulations on the skill of the instructor
Good vid, it's sort of helping me work out my entry into stone carving. My grandad was incredible at it, I've inherited his tools but it's him I need! It's easy to watch a video, but in honesty this has helped show me it isn't as impossible as it was feeling!
Your grandad learned from his mentors and you can learn from the guys online. My favorite teacher was an illustrator named steve rude, who kept these amazing sketchbooks that captured all he learned in visual form, you could read his books and know new techniques five minutes later. You could do the same. Failure is how you learn. It cannot be avoided, only minimized. Get out and do what you love!
@@BarefootViking yes mate I did, made an inscribed heart shape from alabaster as a gift, few other mess about projects. Wood is easier to source for me and I enjoy it more, but I look out for stone in case I fancy it again.
Wonderful skill from a craftsman. He made it look so easy. My great grandfather was a master stonemason. I looked for the video to get some appreciation of what he did.
My 16yo son has just been accepted into stonemasons college and did half a days work experience yesterday in Stamford Lincs. He cant wait to get started.
This guys a good banker mason. Being just a brick mason my self I've never really had the opportunity to practice this skill. When I took my apprenticeship we spent only one day banking using lime stone. So needless to say I can't truly consider my self a legit stone mason until I learn this often neglected part of my trade.
My grandad was a stone mason and I’m about to start a small project on a piece of sandstone, this man has great rhythm and is used to working at some speed! I hope I can get 10% of his ability!
That has to be the purest, most uniform and most PERFECT "stone" I've ever seen. Its almost like CONCRETE or maybe COMPRESSED CHALK! And it's on a WORKBENCH in a nice clean WORKSHOP or CLASSROOM with GOOD LIGHTING and PERFECT NEW TOOLS and all kinds of things that don't exist in the REAL WORLD of COMMERCIAL "craftsmanship" but DO EXIST for "artists" and "artisans" doing GOVERNMENT WORK.
After watching this video I ordered myself a nylon mallet, a square and a chisel. Now I need to find out where to buy rough blocks of stone so I can learn to bone in and make them square. I've always been fascinated by ashalar masonry and would love to learn how to do it myself. Thank you!
Ray, where do you get your chisels from? For the life of me I cannot find a company (at least not online) that sells hand points or tooth chisels. Even if I did, I doubt they would ship to canada. It's really bugging me because I see all these masons using these tools, but I have no idea where they get them.
Try this place according to there website they ship abroad did not specify Canada but sure you could drop them a quick line.. I buy from them never had a problem. www.shop.g-gibson.com/
If you're lucky you get a questioney kid in class and that gives the auditory learners something to hear. The visual kids hate the distraction of the sound of questions. We all learn differently, so I suggest if you get a chance, go ahead an ask if the instructor likes talking. If not, play some rock music!
I can’t help thinking that one of those young fellas with their arms crossed are thinking, “grab a nine inch flush cut mate, and a quick rub with the carby and she’s sorted”.
So ive never really had the ambition to carve something in stone. However in my trade i find my self being forced into stone work. Sometimes i got to get a 3incht diamter hole through brick for an exhuast pipe or a 24x8 hole for duct work through concret i find i enjoy the repetitiveness of chiseling or boring the hole...i make it as neat and nice as i can. also jack hammering is always a fun hard days work 😂😂😂 im a jack ass of a mason with out a realistic knowledge of anything... i now find i want to learn more about this art form to better my workmanship... not gonna lie tho those bore holes in the megalithic structures looks just like my $499.99 hilti bore holes 😂😂😂😃
mallets are used on mallet head chisels....musroom headed to you.....and a grinder leaves a grinder mark....and looks crap.....if you get a skutch comb chisle and clean up the marks its ok....but you need to be able to work without electricity to call youself a real stonemason.
Hi Dominic of course I remember you, you were an apprentice at Exeter Cathedral with Andrew French. We had a good time back in 1979 at Weymouth College, I am now teaching at Bath College. I have been here over ten years. Pop in and see us if you are ever in Bath, The same goes for anyone.
As important a right angles and being square is for some projects, organic shapes are much more beautiful and fun. I love working with stone, but am not enslaved by these principles of extreme measuring.
Those principles are mandatory for functional structural stone masonry. Right now I am 3 weeks into a 5 week stone archway. every blocks angle must be precise because the entire arch will weigh 1400lb's and have no mortar or reinforcment. In contrast the outside faces are naturally shaped so as to look like natures own carving, you would never know looking at the finnished product that is dry stone or that the internal faces are so finely graded.
Hello Ray My names luke I am 33 do you think I am too old to get into this now? What should I do and who should I speak too? This video was fantastic for a beginner like myself I really appreciate it
This guy is highly skilled and yet thousands of years ago there were people that might make this guy look like a apprentice. Some of which had no metal tools and used harder stones the people that built Puma Punku for example. Master craftsman using techniques lost to time sadly.
john o your own statement should make you realize how ridiculous that whole idea sounds.. No metal tools? Ever seen some of the work in Egypt in GRANITE? start questioning the dumb shit you've been taught.
@@iambeing4328 I have to agree. Were they banging fist sized diamonds on granite? Probably not. They also weren't using copper or bronze, or iron or even just normal steel for most of their very skillfully carved granite, diorite, basalt, and quartz art and artifacts. Lasers, certainly not, but they had proper tools.
Dave, while speed and cost are important on some jobs, the old trades seem to carry a way of understanding the materials when you cut them by hand. One way isnt' better than the other, but a master hand carver can always use a blade, while a blade man cannot use chisels. So there seems to be a knowledge gained going from stone age to space age while a student.
industrial projects always obviously will use machine cutting...but there will always be a need to continue on the tradition of stone masonry... one practical reason is because lots of repair work on old buildings all over the world need a true artist and craftsman because machines cant be used for repair work most of the time and for a thousand other reasons
I hope the "teacher" here and all the "students" are wearing respirators and safety glasses. Don't want anybody getting any "on the job" injuries or illnesses from improper or incomplete PPE.
Enrique Rosas I was referring to the tool, as in a "try square", not the piece being worked. Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before trying to correct someone.
mabee you should take a chill pill you dill......how would anyone know you meant a try sqare....you try hard....its one word the guy wrote to an obvious lame joke....get the fuck over yourself.....and its a set square..... actually..... !?!
i am a stonemason and he must have very good quality sandstone for making such big strikes in 11:25 in lesser stone that will make large chips and go under the line creating holes. The way he is carving the stone is not good for beginers the constant lifting of the chisel is not a easy technic steady hand and precise aim you get after 1-2 years of work and carving this fast at least another 4
+scasny This is a Portland limestone and is worked a lot differently to sandstone. With Portland it is a high quality freestone and you can work more off in one go ,like you say if I did this with sandstone it would pluck out leaving big holes. The methods shown are techniques which have been used for 100s of years in the Portland quarries.
I dont disagree with you i dont realise that is limestone most of the time i work with granite.It must be very satisfaing fealing working on some fine limestone.I dont want to criticise you the stile of working reminded me of mine teachers.Now i use the chisel same way it just takes 6 years to feel the stone and make big precise stikes.I work with stone 13+ years and still lerning. Be proud but modest
DUDE....I LEARNED THAT TECNIQUE IN THE FIRST MONT OF TECHNICAL COLLEDGE.....YOU MAY NEED TO UN-LEARN A BAD HABIT......YOU MUST AIM AND RESET EACH STROKE.....MAYBEE 2 TAPS BUT NO MORE OR YOU DRIFT AND DIG IN.....THIS IS LIMESTONE....SANDSTONE IS SIMILAR BUT GRANITE IS ....BIGGER TOOLS AND MORE FORGIVING.....WHEN YOU HIT THESE SOFTER STONS.....YOUR GRANITE HABITS WILL BRING YOU TO GREIF.....maybee thats why you go under the line.....you may be holding your chisels to tight as well.
Dude i dont know what part of the word are you but i am from poor state in central europ i only work with cheap shit grade stones.One time i impact too hard and the stone with size of a microwave split in half vere the vein was.Most of the time when i work i not a good idea to chip chunks biger that a dime
I've always loved proper fraternal practices like these, warms my heart to know people are still doing them
why would someone thumbs down a craftsman who is teaching young people
the same reason you asked why...because you can.
Chris Chicione Probably someone who thought that only Aliens or Giants could achieve such work. Peace!
Because some people know you don't "teach" jack shit by telling someone how to do it. Least of all a bunch of school kids who may not have the slightest fucking interest in being a "craftsman".
Because they're whippersnappers.
Chad Meyer, you should channel that rage into carving a stone with your fists.
I love watching stuff like this. Nothing like seeing a master craftsperson at work. The thosands of hours it must have taken to make it look so easy.
Doesn't take long for a confident person whose very good with their hands and loves detailed meticulous work. -Stone Carver
you can always tell which ones are really interested & who's listening because they will come over to see the work you've done.
The best demonstration of an art almost gone, hopefully the young pick up on the art and skills of an honorable position, congratulations on the skill of the instructor
Good vid, it's sort of helping me work out my entry into stone carving. My grandad was incredible at it, I've inherited his tools but it's him I need!
It's easy to watch a video, but in honesty this has helped show me it isn't as impossible as it was feeling!
Your grandad learned from his mentors and you can learn from the guys online.
My favorite teacher was an illustrator named steve rude, who kept these amazing sketchbooks that captured all he learned in visual form, you could read his books and know new techniques five minutes later.
You could do the same. Failure is how you learn. It cannot be avoided, only minimized. Get out and do what you love!
Did you give carving a try?
@@BarefootViking yes mate I did, made an inscribed heart shape from alabaster as a gift, few other mess about projects. Wood is easier to source for me and I enjoy it more, but I look out for stone in case I fancy it again.
@@LikeWeDidOutdoors great to know. I appreciate your site. It will serve people well
@@BarefootViking cheers mate I appreciate it!
That was an amazing display of skill.
+StereoSpace yeah damn this was good stuff
Wonderful skill from a craftsman. He made it look so easy. My great grandfather was a master stonemason. I looked for the video to get some appreciation of what he did.
Survival skills enhanced by twenty points.
Nice video showing some basics. I remember my first day in school, they gave us a raw block of stone and said.. "make a cube"
😂🤣🤣🤣
Belo trabalho, um verdadeiro mestre da cantaria! Nice job, a real stonemason master!
Thank you very much for share your knowledge with us. That job was perfect!
My 16yo son has just been accepted into stonemasons college and did half a days work experience yesterday in Stamford Lincs. He cant wait to get started.
I did not know you can chissle that flat. Great to see those ying men learning this.
This guys a good banker mason. Being just a brick mason my self I've never really had the opportunity to practice this skill. When I took my apprenticeship we spent only one day banking using lime stone. So needless to say I can't truly consider my self a legit stone mason until I learn this often neglected part of my trade.
My grandad was a stone mason and I’m about to start a small project on a piece of sandstone, this man has great rhythm and is used to working at some speed! I hope I can get 10% of his ability!
So great to see, thanks for sharing!
That has to be the purest, most uniform and most PERFECT "stone" I've ever seen. Its almost like CONCRETE or maybe COMPRESSED CHALK! And it's on a WORKBENCH in a nice clean WORKSHOP or CLASSROOM with GOOD LIGHTING and PERFECT NEW TOOLS and all kinds of things that don't exist in the REAL WORLD of COMMERCIAL "craftsmanship" but DO EXIST for "artists" and "artisans" doing GOVERNMENT WORK.
After watching this video I ordered myself a nylon mallet, a square and a chisel. Now I need to find out where to buy rough blocks of stone so I can learn to bone in and make them square. I've always been fascinated by ashalar masonry and would love to learn how to do it myself. Thank you!
You can get rough blocks from any quarry. This block came from Albion Stone on Portland in Dorset
Great video mister teacher. We want more videos
This video is sooo goood!
This guy is a ARTIST! WOW!
Awesome work awesome teaching
That looks fun!
Love it! Keep it up!!!
This is incredible
Thanks Ray
Wonderful!
Amazing 😍
Loved this video. Does anyone know what they do with the material chipped off of the stone? Reused as gravel maybe? Or just thrown out?
Silica dust, silica dust everywhere. Next comes the lung cancer.
Great job reaĺy
The workpiece moving with every strike would do my nut in. Huge respect to these guys though. 👍🏻
reminds me of my college days, and how we where tought. I must make some masony videos of my own and show people how its really done.
Can you do this with any stone? Or is this a specific stone
Very cool!!
Where can I get a block if stone like that in Canada. I can't find it
I think this is great. I can not stop watching this to save my life. But, if he has mold on his bed, he needs to do something about it
Could do with a clamp on a swivel to hold the block
Great video, thanks for uploading. Could you make one on fillets?
great video
Is that Psychedsubstance in the background on the left side :D
Silica, silica everywhere.
Now it makes sense why the stones were hewn like they were on a remodel job. Oldest building was built in 1888.
and how did he get the stone to be so square in the first place
Jedi skills 🙌🙌
Ray, where do you get your chisels from? For the life of me I cannot find a company (at least not online) that sells hand points or tooth chisels. Even if I did, I doubt they would ship to canada. It's really bugging me because I see all these masons using these tools, but I have no idea where they get them.
Try this place according to there website they ship abroad did not specify Canada but sure you could drop them a quick line.. I buy from them never had a problem. www.shop.g-gibson.com/
Trow and Holden in Barre Vermont United States of America
Thank you 🌹
Mashallah, Good nice
09:29 Amazing skills!!!
Note: I was here...
I wish I could spend that much time on one facet
What a big block of stone you have there!
studying!
Silica dust, silica dust everywhere. Next comes the lung cancer.
Great skill to do this by hand shown by this mason.If you don’t have the skill or time use a diamond saw for this cut!
i'm thinking about becoming a stonemason but have a load of questions. this video only makes me want to ask so many more x_X
If you're lucky you get a questioney kid in class and that gives the auditory learners something to hear. The visual kids hate the distraction of the sound of questions.
We all learn differently, so I suggest if you get a chance, go ahead an ask if the instructor likes talking. If not, play some rock music!
interesting stuff
I can’t help thinking that one of those young fellas with their arms crossed are thinking, “grab a nine inch flush cut mate, and a quick rub with the carby and she’s sorted”.
You only need 2,299,999 more to make a pyramid....great job
Yea, about that, that's going to take at least 2 weeks.
But its ok because you have 5,000,000 slaves.
What type of stone is this
Are those tools John Parsons’s tools?
Well done sir
B ADAMS
So ive never really had the ambition to carve something in stone. However in my trade i find my self being forced into stone work. Sometimes i got to get a 3incht diamter hole through brick for an exhuast pipe or a 24x8 hole for duct work through concret i find i enjoy the repetitiveness of chiseling or boring the hole...i make it as neat and nice as i can. also jack hammering is always a fun hard days work 😂😂😂 im a jack ass of a mason with out a realistic knowledge of anything... i now find i want to learn more about this art form to better my workmanship... not gonna lie tho those bore holes in the megalithic structures looks just like my $499.99 hilti bore holes 😂😂😂😃
Congratulations
👍
i dont know what he did but it was cool
Air chisel no good?
Bath College - there must be tons of work for these students down there.
How close to the line do you place pitcher? Great lesson !
First of all I pitch about 3mm away from the line and then put a boaster in the scribe line to get right down on the line.
When should hammer be replaced with a mallet? And what do you think of grinder being used to remove stone as opposed to punch and toothed chisels
mallets are used on mallet head chisels....musroom headed to you.....and a grinder leaves a grinder mark....and looks crap.....if you get a skutch comb chisle and clean up the marks its ok....but you need to be able to work without electricity to call youself a real stonemason.
You can use different grits on angle grinders to take the marks out completely. It also helps to be competent with an angle grinder.
Then again I'm a cement mason.
Dude this fucking guy is amazing.
nice job but try doing that with copper, what the ancients suposably used.
How do i di this course thanks
Hi Ray i was at collage with you,doubt if you remember,Dominic is my name,that would`nt be Weymouth where you are teaching is it.
Hi Dominic of course I remember you, you were an apprentice at Exeter Cathedral with Andrew French.
We had a good time back in 1979 at Weymouth College, I am now teaching at Bath College.
I have been here over ten years.
Pop in and see us if you are ever in Bath,
The same goes for anyone.
😊
As important a right angles and being square is for some projects, organic shapes are much more beautiful and fun. I love working with stone, but am not enslaved by these principles of extreme measuring.
Those principles are mandatory for functional structural stone masonry. Right now I am 3 weeks into a 5 week stone archway. every blocks angle must be precise because the entire arch will weigh 1400lb's and have no mortar or reinforcment. In contrast the outside faces are naturally shaped so as to look like natures own carving, you would never know looking at the finnished product that is dry stone or that the internal faces are so finely graded.
Wow👍👍👍👍👍
23:20 Music for my ear´s
Hello Ray
My names luke I am 33 do you think I am too old to get into this now?
What should I do and who should I speak too?
This video was fantastic for a beginner like myself I really appreciate it
Luke Nash Hi Luke are you near Bath come in for a free taster day at the college on 22nd of June 2015
if you are healthy, then you're only one third through your life
in other words you're not too old to start any trade. ANY
i started tech at 40.
the youngsters couldn't even see the work surface !
24:00 sounds like a Inuit throat singer
Never rub your straight edge,tut tut😉
Roots of Freemason bring me here
Silica dust, silica dust everywhere. Next comes the lung cancer.
Please try with granite or andesite.
I did check my videos 100% hand fab black galaxy granite
Hello Where are you
whats the type of stone?
Portland Stone
very nice i was always the master mason haha
I always just use sandpaper to sharpen my chizels, but I guess this works too. Just looks very time consuming is all.
This guy is highly skilled and yet thousands of years ago there were people that might make this guy look like a apprentice. Some of which had no metal tools and used harder stones the people that built Puma Punku for example. Master craftsman using techniques lost to time sadly.
john o your own statement should make you realize how ridiculous that whole idea sounds.. No metal tools? Ever seen some of the work in Egypt in GRANITE? start questioning the dumb shit you've been taught.
Hitch Slap he did say "some"' Which must be true, the real early stuff didn't have metal tools, there are ways to use stone that requires no tools
@@iambeing4328 I have to agree. Were they banging fist sized diamonds on granite? Probably not. They also weren't using copper or bronze, or iron or even just normal steel for most of their very skillfully carved granite, diorite, basalt, and quartz art and artifacts. Lasers, certainly not, but they had proper tools.
Portland Stone
Angle grinder and tidy it up aftr
i do granite countertops and im
thinking give me a diamond blade and 2 minutes
I watched the entire video wondering why this wouldn't just be dome on a machine.
duh.....why not do away with sex and use an invitro system.keeping old skills alive is very nessessary....you will see.
Dave, while speed and cost are important on some jobs, the old trades seem to carry a way of understanding the materials when you cut them by hand. One way isnt' better than the other, but a master hand carver can always use a blade, while a blade man cannot use chisels. So there seems to be a knowledge gained going from stone age to space age while a student.
industrial projects always obviously will use machine cutting...but there will always be a need to continue on the tradition of stone masonry... one practical reason is because lots of repair work on old buildings all over the world need a true artist and craftsman because machines cant be used for repair work most of the time and for a thousand other reasons
Could you do columns in a mountain like Petra?
Hello Ray Summer ! im a french stone mason and i just want to now what king of stone is that ? the name of stone ?
limestone
It's 3 am how did I get from Roblox
I hope the "teacher" here and all the "students" are wearing respirators and safety glasses. Don't want anybody getting any "on the job" injuries or illnesses from improper or incomplete PPE.
I did wonder about that, especially with people coughing when the dust went up each time.
Nice beat
That square won't be square for long.
Enrique Rosas I was referring to the tool, as in a "try square", not the piece being worked. Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before trying to correct someone.
mabee you should take a chill pill you dill......how would anyone know you meant a try sqare....you try hard....its one word the guy wrote to an obvious lame joke....get the fuck over yourself.....and its a set square..... actually..... !?!
Set square? No, I'm afraid not, dipshit.
But dipshit wasn't necessary honestly.
Why so salty hero?
I am a stone worker
And that is how the Egyptians built the pyramids.
i am a stonemason and he must have very good quality sandstone for making such big strikes in 11:25 in lesser stone that will make large chips and go under the line creating holes.
The way he is carving the stone is not good for beginers the constant lifting of the chisel is not a easy technic steady hand and precise aim you get after 1-2 years of work and carving this fast at least another 4
+scasny This is a Portland limestone and is worked a lot differently to sandstone. With Portland it is a high quality freestone and you can work more off in one go ,like you say if I did this with sandstone it would pluck out leaving big holes. The methods shown are techniques which have been used for 100s of years in the Portland quarries.
I dont disagree with you i dont realise that is limestone most of the time i work with granite.It must be very satisfaing fealing working on some fine limestone.I dont want to criticise you the stile of working reminded me of mine teachers.Now i use the chisel same way it just takes 6 years to feel the stone and make big precise stikes.I work with stone 13+ years and still lerning.
Be proud but modest
+scasny I agree with you it does take years to be fully competent to work stone
DUDE....I LEARNED THAT TECNIQUE IN THE FIRST MONT OF TECHNICAL COLLEDGE.....YOU MAY NEED TO UN-LEARN A BAD HABIT......YOU MUST AIM AND RESET EACH STROKE.....MAYBEE 2 TAPS BUT NO MORE OR YOU DRIFT AND DIG IN.....THIS IS LIMESTONE....SANDSTONE IS SIMILAR BUT GRANITE IS ....BIGGER TOOLS AND MORE FORGIVING.....WHEN YOU HIT THESE SOFTER STONS.....YOUR GRANITE HABITS WILL BRING YOU TO GREIF.....maybee thats why you go under the line.....you may be holding your chisels to tight as well.
Dude i dont know what part of the word are you but i am from poor state in central europ i only work with cheap shit grade stones.One time i impact too hard and the stone with size of a microwave split in half vere the vein was.Most of the time when i work i not a good idea to chip chunks biger that a dime
if you are going to make it flat, why not just saw it?
damn, you make a good point lol. But I think some stones respond better to this type of working
because you have to be able to work in sitch on big peices or else you are not a mason are you.....you are a saw operator.
we are still living in stoneage guys
a house is but a fancy cave.
Must be alien tech...
Diamond blade saw anyone