Ronda Rousey understood aggression, but she was not a fighter…
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Will Ronda Rousey be able to adapt to promoting herself in the WWE? Chael Sonnen weighs in on his You're Welcome podcast. - Розваги
‘I haven’t got the foggiest idea’ gets to me everytime 😂
@MAPLE SYRUP I haven't the foggiest idea where the humor stems from, but let me offer you this....
Matthew Burrows I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
Chael yelłs at the end of almost every sentence. Everytime he wants to make a point he screams the last word of it.
"There should have been a pat on the BACK!"
"It's like anything in life it's the truth that HURTS!"
Guns n Wheels I’m glad you’re taking notes 📝
Is he reading a teleprompter ?
It's a speaking technique, helps keep the audience listening. He knows what he's doing
After I read this comment I rewatched this video and seriously couldn't stop laughing at how true it is.
Lol.
Rhonda not only couldn’t handle a loss, and ran away when she realized she wasn’t the best anymore.. but her attitude was what made her look the worse. Several times she wasn’t humble in victory and never in defeat.. which is where she lost her fans.
Big time. Don't expect support from people when all you do is step on people. Her self-image was 180 degrees different than what everybody else saw. She wanted to be this beautiful self-confident badass, the image that she put forth was an arrogant diva with her nose in the air and a serious ego-vulnerability. She was capable of looking good when some Hollywood clothing designer and makeup artist did her up but she was no Miesha Tate or Gina Carano. She was popular among the casuals but the real fans knew that she was a piece of garbage that wouldn't last.
I finally agree with Chael, he is spot on with his take about LOUSEY. Her career was fake, the UFC and the media made her out to be something she wasn't... Her one trick pony worked in a tomato can division, as real fighters were signed to the UFC her days were numbered.
Put some hespec on Becky Lynch’s name, Chael
He meant Becky? Never saw a jobber so over
@@phenomenalsteen4186 lol xD I can't believe he called her a jobber.. xDD
Chael only likes 80's and 90's wwe, the rest is fake and doesn't matter
He is in his UFC bubble of how big Ronda is... Just show him the clip when Ronda got booed
SHE sucks
Ronda fought the same girls as Amanda Nunes and has the better record against those girls. Her problem was she became a boxer and started losing. She abandoned her Judo, clinch game, and dirty boxing.
She finally fought women she couldn't take down. Watch her 2nd fight with Miesha Tate
Everytime Tate hit her clean she was reaching for a takedown. She was the best at the time, but when its all said and done she'll be remembered more like Royce Gracie in a way of being the first!!....but not the best in regards to GOAT talk.
Well said..
DAM251983 she could take anyone in the ufc down. Really.
I can't believe you got so many likes for this. Ronda didn'T abandoned her judo and clinch games, she just was unable to do it against superior opponents who nullified her game true footworks and shit.
@@a7x4lrevAll the people she took down were fighters that basically ran straight at her. The only exceptions were Holly and Nunes.......
You do realize that the "jobber" is more popular than Ronda is in the wrestling world? She's so popular Ronda is getting booed out of buildings & they're chanting the name of that "jobber" at her every time she's in the ring.
Hes a fighter and a fighting fan,not a wrestler , so why would he lile a wrestlers over a fighter(even if shes not a good one).
@@brunorangel1739 He doesn't have to like her, but he can at least show her some respect, she's been in the game since she was 15, that's years old not the 15 minutes Ronda has been here. Calling her a "jobber" when she's clearly more respected & liked in her industry than Ronda is makes him sound like a dick, he'd be the first person to call someone out if they referred to an MMA guy as a jobber by someone from outside of the sport.
If it hadn't been for Becky, Charlotte, Sasha & Bayley then Ronda probably wouldn't have a job in wrestling at this point, the 4 of them changed how womens wrestling is looked at & made it what it is today where people like Ronda & Shayna want to be involved, calling her a jobber is disrespectful to the work she's put in to not only get where she is today, but womens wrestling too.
Jobber none the less.
Who fucking cares?! WWE fucking sucks and should die already.
@@brunorangel1739 Yeah, she's not a good one against the elite fighters at 135, but against the average woman she's a wrecking machine. All bullshit aside, Rousey would beat the shit out of every woman on the roster of the WWE, or whatever rival organization this other woman is from.
DID UNCLE CHAEL JUST CALL BECKY A JOBBER? WOW.
"Some jobber wrestler" says the guy who invited Eva Marie on his show and introduced her as one of the best ever to mma fans 😂😂 lmao
Mehul Bhole what’s ? Lol
Who’s Eva Marie?
Wait he WHAT?????
PolarBrain he called eva the best and called Becky a jobber...this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about just trying to ride the rousey wave
Did he really
"Jane Doe Jobber" 😂😂😂😂😂
Chael is always entertaining as hell.
Becky Lynch is not a jobber and I don’t even watch wrestling.. but anyone they put in front ronda gets jobbed out right now
Because none of them are Holly Holm or Amanda Nunes. Duh.
its 1:30am wednesday 21st 2018 and in some dark damp clean linen smelling room with the 1998 wrestlemania playing on the tv behind him Chael p. sonnen is patiently waiting for youtube to process all the mma insider information he is allowing it to recieve so that it could ultimately answer the real question at hand, just where exactly does kevin lee fit into all this?
And just how good is Conor McGregor?
And where does cm punk go from here?
Chael is the USADA for phone companies.
MMA star power doesn't last long like WWE star power and that's MMA biggest weakness and WWE biggest strength
cyberpunkghost simply because WWE can dictate their stars career paths and victories
@@balddonaldcerrone7930 exactly. Because it's scripted. MMA isn't.
Not a weakness, it's reality
WWE is pure entertainment, so its not that people remember the athlete they remember the celebrity. I dont sit back and say Stone Cild Steve Austin was this amazing athlete. I sit back and laugh at all the crap he did.
It's almost like one follows a script or something.
Chael "not the foggiest idea" Sonnen
I'm 46 minutes too late.
ChaeI,I love your fights,I love the shit you talk all in all YOU are my favorite competitor.
everytime i go to youtube i see chael sonnon video recommended to me. how do i block chael sonnen youtube chenel
Ronda didnt beat the top of the line? I mean she beat cat zingano who beat amanda nunes, and she beat miesha who beat holly holm, ik MMA math doesnt work that way but it tells you that any of these fighters can beat each other on any given day. I do not like ronda much because of the attitude she had developed but dont shit on her record
They have to hate someone, even if her ground game is tops.
Edit: Chael, envy vs jealousy is important.
i absolutley agree. she was more like a fighter with a gimmick. when she got figuered out she couldnt evolve. but until then she was a beast and she was a real champion who was not fighting tomato cans at all. well excluding correia.
A. K. Styles make matchups also people get better the nunes that fought cat is a completely different fighter now
Yeah but then they all say oh mma caught up with her within a year 😂😂😂😂 idiots
She beat a concussed cat Zingano. See the podcast on JRE
When Chael talks, I listen.
Slow news day Chael still a fantastic Chael
Actually Chael Ronda was fighting at 145 for some time but dropped to 135 when Cyborg was in talks of joining and calling her out. Also remember Gina Carano was suppose to fight Ronda at 145.
Actually she was fighting in the ufc and they only had a 115 and 135 pound weight class.
There wasn't a 145 when Ronda was fighting so you're reaching and hating. Ronda has never backed out a fight ever! chael goofy ass is downplaying her record and the caliber of her opponents. She just should have never tried to start standing up and fighting her opponents, she should of kept it where she had succeeded in which is close on her opponent, clinch and dirty boxing.
Got to remember Cris Cyborg was suspended fpr steroids use and yes Rousey was 145! But some reason Strikeforce change it to 135
@@High4Life118 you really were High for life when you thought that statement made any sense
@@High4Life118
You're out of your mind. Think about this: Holly was 10-0 when she went up against Ronda, funny how nobody knew that. Why would that be? Also, Ronda had plenty of chances against Holly to play her game. She had Holly in the clinch several times, got a takedown, and just couldn't do anything with it. She just wasn't that good.
I'll always remember when Chael Sonnen fought the GOAT Jon Jones, Chael lost but during the post fight interview gave the most honest and sportmanslike response that he could have given. Watch the fight to hear his response. This says more about Chael's character than if he would have won that fight.
Ronda beat the top fighters during her time -- many whom were more experienced -- and was one of the most active fighters in SF and the UFC. Her 12 fight win streak - the way she obliterated the competition was good damn impressive. If a 2017 skill level Amanda Nunes had fought the same women then instead of Ronda, do you think she would have beat all of them that easily? I highly doubt it. I stopped being a Ronda fan when she refused to shake Meisha's hand at 168 but I can't deny what she's accomplished for herself and MMA. We will probably never see such a thing again.
Saw it with khabib. Saw it with Anderson silva.
Ronda and UFC were both dodging Cyborg using 10 pounds weigh difference as an excuse. Ronda herself dropped 10 pounds at one point to compete in lighter category.
Some jobber wrestler? Address the man rightly
The GOAT is rightfully saying whatever he wants.
Brandon Thompson can’t call her that after bleeding that much over one punch. There’s a reason wrestling fake.
So Becky, the one that got cut open and didn't stop and has been bringing reality into the story can't be the man because she bled after one punch?
Chael gets wrestling, it's obvious he isn't watching this angle, he says as much. Becky is bringing up Rondas past to make Ronda the good guy in all this, once again, because she's the man, and she gets it. The thing is Becky being so real is making her the fan favorite. And Chael is right, Becky is taking full advantage of her time in the moment.
And btw, Charlotte and Becky are gonna keep whooping that ass and beating that drum till WrestleMania, and all of us wrestling fans could probably tell you who will win and lose in each match and it not affect how much we enjoy it, and Ronda is gonna get an L hung on her at the Rumble by Becky, if you ask me.
Tl;Dr: Yes, Becky is indeed "The Man" rn, making Ronda look silly on social media is part of that.
@Ricardo Martinez yes but there are two shows with separate talent and the chicks working against Ronda are on the other show so I'm gonna give him credit and assume he only saw Becky when she showed up on Raw... And has essentially not seen Becky, maybe isn't aware of the brand split and thus believes her to be a jobber
And basically her and Charlotte and the other chicks beat up the entire Raw women's division and Rondas ass like braveheart.
At this point however Charlotte Flair, who is WWE's star (Ronda is to UFC as Charlotte is to WWE in terms of favoritism) did indeed beat the dog shit out of Ronda on Sunday, within an inch of her life. And that was pretty stiff (real) even if choreographed.
But Charlotte is honestly the most complete performer so not only is Becky the man but let's be real Charlotte carried Ronda and despite her favoritism Charlotte is, to reiterate, the best performer, and it's not close. She delivers to the 9s.
Tl;Dr: Let's be real, Charlotte > Becky > Ronda
Watch survivor series. Ronda is the jobber. Had to take up for my girls ❤️ they're better than the men fr fr
I'm pretty sure Chael is working you all with that "Jobber" comment lol If anything he's probably trying to get Becky Lynch's attention lmao
True. The American Gangster is obviously the biggest fan of The Man.
@@a.a.h.s.2345 I 100% agree. I mean he did interview Chris Jericho and he was fanboying so bad! I'm sure he is defending Y2J's honor after The Man destroyed him on twitter lol
No Rhonda = no women's divisions in UFC. She gave Dana a reason to put women on the card ($$$). Always remember that.
Nice.
This christmas im leaving off the yule log and playing chael on repeat
A jobber wrestler? People booed Ronda Rousey because she was going against the wrestler that your 'jobber wrestler' picked..
Just imagine, that jobber wrestler picked her replacement and Ronda still got booed...
That jobber wrestler (Becky Lynch) is the hottest thing in wrestling right now cheal....
Hey Chael! That 'JOBBER" is the MOST OVER wrestler, Man or Woman in the world right now
I hate over wrestlers. Those try hard mfkers.
And? Daniel Bryan was the most over wrestler for about a year and you see where he is at now even after making a fairly miraculous return from retirement.
@@Zasaramel your a little off topic there, all i was saying is that Becky is no jobber.
Daniel O'Farrell mate 5 years old watch wrestling not that hard. Your telling me she would the most over when stone cold and the rock was around.
@@Zasaramel "and you see where hes at now" yeah look where daniel bryan is at now.... WWE Champion 😂😂😂
Chael speaking the truth !!!
Chael, that's not true. Ronda was originally a featherweight in Strikeforce and was the next opponent after Jan Finney. She backed out and moved down to bantamweight. She did duck Cyborg twice.
Chael is the only person who could make me believe that logic doesn't work in a debate.
Did he just call Becky a jobber? Isnt this guy supposed to be a wrestling fan?
He's trying to work the fans. Probably trying to get Becky's attention too.
He is 100% trolling
Bravo Chaek, 100% accurate. I have been saying that for years. She was a meal ticket for Dana White.
Chael’s “logical” answer actually sounded pretty good to me
The first 40 seconds of the video made me feel as if I got slipped a mickie like something out of a 90's movie betrayal.
Becky Lynch is no jobber, Becky Lynch is The Man! Historically you're dead wrong because she did duck Cris back in Strikeforce. She was the number one contender for the 145 belt and ran to 135, never looked back either.
Yeah you got to remember Cyborg was suspended for steroids
she is a women
@@richardesquibel4222 yeah against Hiroko Yamanaka six years ago, almost seven. Her only failed test and Cyborg has been clean every since. What's your point? It's also funny you bring up steroids when it comes to Cyborg and yet dear ol Chael here has been popped multiple times and had a trt exemption yet you don't bring that up. Funny how that works right? By that time when Cyborg popped dirty, Zuffa bought Strikeforce and Rousey was already in the UFC so don't give me that! Your argument is lame, weak and pathetic!
@@4LP3E who happens to be The Man!
@@Wyldout PED use can alter your body permanently lol.
Telling cyborg to make a weight she cant make IS turning down a fight...
Becky Lynch > Ronda
Ronda Rousey!!!!
The wisdom of Chael hits the nail on the head.
She is still the most dominant female fighter ever to step in the octagon. Her records will not be broken. Show me other females who finish title fights in 12 and 16 seconds. Hell, there aren't any men with that record and we finish fights at a much higher rate.
Greatest trash talking/hype man in the history of sports
“I got off my biscuit and went in there and risked it”
Dont miss her one bit but glad shes making a living.
"I failed at something that you never had the courage to try" .... nice.
You better learn the Man’s name.
@Justin B lol
ronda should challenge that broad to a mma fight i bet she shuts up really fast
"Jane Doe Jobber." This Man is a low key Savage sometimes.
WWE has a major little brother complex when it comes to the UFC and the UFC has a major little brother complex when it comes to boxing
Chael Rope A Dope Sonnen.
"Logic does not work in a debate"-C.P. Sonnen
In 2020+ he's absolutely right.
everytime they mention ufc in the wwe its cringe
not this time
Every time a mma only fan cringes at the mention of WWE, I cringe because if I were not a pro wrestling fan, I may have never seen the original UFC video tapes in the Blockbusters and Best Buys sitting next to the pro wrestling tapes I had come to rent or purchase. Fans of what you despise were the first large wave of fans for mma.
@@kcnugfan They weren't fans. That's the key difference. They may have watched a single show out of curiosity, but when they realized it wasn't like their WWE, they stopped watching. TUF is what blew the UFC up, and there was hardly a crossover there with WWE fans lmao. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard man.
@@Devorantem Your incorrect there. I am a fan of all combat sports, real or not. That is exactly when and where mma got it's initial support. It may not have lasted for some or even most fans of pro wrestling, but the truth is that that is where the initial support came from. Not patting myself anywhere, just stating facts that mma only dweebs can never get over.
When mma fighters figure out how to work the system, it will go the same way as wrestling did, if it hasn't happened already. Funny part is mma only fans will be the last to know and admit it.
@@kcnugfan Where do you get your info from? Where are the numbers? How do you know such things? Because you and a few of your WWE dork buds sit around and talk about how you were pivotal for MMA's success? Please. There was no support from WWE fans. Minimal curiosity at best. They view MMA as competition and are threatened, same reason why they hate us today and vice versa. Nothing changed.
Chael would be a star in wwe...
Why are people forgetting that Ronda was an absolute killer for her division. The MMA game obviously overtook her, but for some reason she doesn't get the credit she is due. UFC was lucky to have her.
Rhonda is basically the Tank Abbott of women's mma
Lies can definitely hurt. Lies can ruin lives. Lies can kill.
Does Chael forget what he said about Rhonda strength in a press conference????
Chael "We gonna have some fun" Sonnen
Ronda was legit, like the female Royce Gracie. So what if the sport was still too new to have world class competition? Ronda raised the bar until it was above her, exactly what she set out to do.
You did not just say that, Royce had more than an armbar.
At some point people thought she could fight Floyd May-weather
Dislike for calling the man a jobber
This just begs the question, am I having a stroke or is Chael moving like Neo dodging bullets in the matrix in this video
End of the video, did chael just say logic does not work in a debate? 😂😂😂
Ronda knew cyborg couldn't make 135 pounds, she definitely avoided cyborg
Sounds like Chael: I understand fighting, I'm just into padding other fighter's records.
The Man vs. The American Gangster promos are the promos that everyone wants and nobody deserves.
you get better when your competition is better and while she was exposed when the competition got better it is also true that she may have been a better fighter had the competition had been better at the start.
Do u read from teleprompter?
Honda was a 145lb fighter in Strikeforce until it was time to fight Cyborg.
Getting real god with the pods now C
Chael definitly piped ronda
Being the first at anything is not easy, remembering Carmouche came this close to the 1st woman champ.
Ronda’s a beast
LMAOOOOO HE SAID BECKY IS A JOBBER
LOL, Chael "she said yes to Cyborg" yes at a weight that she knew Cyborg couldn't make!!
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to shake his own hand
Ronda never saw Rocky.
When Honda started out in Strikforce she fought at 145, this was when Cyborg beat Gina Corona for the 145 belt. Honda was talked about getting a title shot against Cyborg but she instead opted to go down to 135 and fight Miesha Tate. She ran from Cyborg period.
Ive literally said Rhonda was a competitor not a fighter, her competitor spirt wasnt satisfied when her olympic career ended. She was ahead of the game at first and then the competition caught up. Had she never been convinced her hands had become on the same level as her judo she’d still be on top. If you go back and watch her fights, she never liked getting punched in the face, her reaction was that of some one who looked like she didnt take punches in training i.e. live sparring, she never learned how to get used to taking a punch. Every fight when she got hit you can see it clearly on her face she wasnt used to it. When she fought Holly she got tagged and instead of focusing on her strengths, she was told in training she was a puncher and had good power, so when she was tagged she tried to hit Holly clean and gain respect and she kinda started head hunting but never gained the respect because her hands were not up to par to Hollys. When Rhonda went for the clinch finally it was to late she had already been hurt so her technique wasnt clean in the clinch it was sloppy and panicky ergo Holly pushed her off easily. In the Amanda fight it was the same thing when Amanda tagged her Rhonda tried to punch back and gain respect instead of going to her bread and butter i.e. Clinch/Judo, and she ends up taking a beating and getting man handled. This is in no way a diss to Rhondas skills she is as legit as they come but both of her loses were to true fighters whom are used to taking a punch and have an extensive background in fighting, where as Rhonda was a competitor with mad heart and great skills technically but not a fighter who is used to having punches thrown at them and being hit with said punches.
So there are a few details that people ALWAYS tend to forget or leave out when they talk about Ronda. It has nothing to do with if she was good or not - but before Ronda Nobody gave a DAMN about female fighting. Infact i have seen several sports tv hosts saying that women shouldn't be fighting or boxing because they are bad role-models for what a woman is suppose to be. There is a VERY famous interview with Dana White where he i asked "when will we females in the UFC" and he responed "NEVER" So when Ronda came and took the world by storm - and you can say what you want about her fighting style and ablilites and her attitude she TOOK the world by storm and became a household name. When she came people starting watching female fights not only that but Ronda made the UFC a TON of money and suddenly female fighting was cool to watch. If anything Ronda helped women like Misha, Holly, Amanda, Kat and all the others because before Ronda Rousey - and you can ague if this is fair or not but it's a fact - Before Ronda NOBODY watched female fighting…...this is something that people ALWAYS tend to forget to mention when they talk about Ronda Rousey -------
Next video, “chuck understood fighting, but not a real martial artist”
Jobber wrestler? The man, Becky Lynch? I thought you were a fan Chael. Tut tut
"The Man." Roflmfao
Rhonda was the best, no denying that. Problem was that other fighters got better as mma evolved and she didn’t. That said, she’d probably beat most of the fighters in her weight class. She lost only twice. But not being the best wasn’t something she could handle.
wat about ortiz vs liddel 3 commentary mr sonnen?
I wish Rhonda would get herself a real striking coach and come back for another try.
RR career down fall was not speaking when times were rough. It’s normal/possible to probably not win at the ufc elite level.
If Ronda makes a comeback in the UFC and wins... She's going to be a very bg star again... Even in the WWE... WWE needs UFC for one more easy fight for Ronda
Ronda's latest segment on UFC in short (part 13) solidifies her arrogance and ever growing ego "I don't know if you guys even deserve to hear it" relating to her legacy.... what a complete tool.
Chael “ I haven’t the foggiest idea” sonnen
There are 2 points I have to argue. First of all, Becky Lynch is NOT in any way a Jobber, she is the most over WWE star right now, man or Woman, in fact that's why she is now calling herself "The Man". Secondly, saying Ronda didn't duck Cyborg by insisting she fought at 135 is questionable at the least. There is no way Cyborg could ever make 135 and Ronda knew it. That's like calling out Conor at 135 or Cormier at 185 then saying they're ducking you. Cyborg damn near killed herself making 139 against Leslie Smith, then probably missed weight for the 140 fight against Lansberg (I say probably because photos showed she weight over 141 but the Brazillian commission allowed it anyway) and was so ill she had to get a retroactive TUE for prescribed drugs and her blood was so thick they couldn't do a blood test. I'd argue that by Ronda insisting Cyborg fight at 135 she was effectively ducking her.
Going back to Ronda-Becky Lynch, I agree that when a worker shoots on you, you have to shoot back. That's why it's so awkward and weird that Ronnie (as Becky is now calling her) keeps calling Becky "The Millennial Man". It makes no sense because they are the same age, and it's a replying to a shoot with a work, so Becky looks like a Bad ass and Ronnie loses the Social media fight.
Robman275 imagine calling yourself the man. Then getting one punch in the face bleed that much. Plus not that hard to be over when the average age of wrestling fan is 5 now.
@@nabzm.u1540 That's inaccurate. If you bother to look up WWE's viewer demographics, you'll see the age of viewers is actually getting older. The 18-34 market is growing and in 2016 the median viewing age was 54. As for the punch in question it was a stiff, closed fist punch, that was totally unexpected, from a woman twice her weight with no way of defending it. That's not an exaggeration, Lynch is billed at 135 pounds and Nia Jax is billed at 272. Granted WWE weights can be BS but the point still stands. In a legit fight Becky most likely would have been fine, but in the space it was it was reckless. None of this changes points I raised anyway.
Chael knows Becky’s name. To call her a “Jobber wrestler” when she’s the hottest star in the company right now shows his disdain for Lynch or protection for Rousey.
Comments that haven't aged well.
“HEaD MoVeMenT”
true... she didn't refuse cyborg, she just didn't do what true champions do which is make it work via catchweight. had she took and won that fight her legacy would look very different. mind you, had she lost she may have never got where she is.
She held a belt something u could never get done lol and she defended it alot
Rhonda didn't fail because she wasn't the best. She failed because her coach convinced her she was a boxer. I think with the right coach Rhonda could beat anyone.
Rhonda is going to make a comeback. Chael just said so.
Obviously Chael is correct..
Men are fighting in all forms for centuries.. Boxing, wrestling, Thai boxing, kick boxing, etc.. They have refined it down to a science.. And millions of guys train daily to learn the refined forms of these sciences..
For women it is new..And as soon as it "caught on", and a few more women did it, Rhonda is toast.. She was a "good fighter" in a sport that nobody really competed in.. If the same amount of women fought as men, for as long, she never would have existed in MMA
I think its revisionist history to underestimate Rondas wins and skills. Sara McCann and Cat Zingano are very skilled. In fact, Cat beat Amanda. Rondas finish on Cat was astounding.
She gets a lot of criticism on this ufc topic and I don't think it's fair. It's very easy to compare rousey's techniques to female mma fighters we see today and make that the sole basis on why she was never good and people just bucked up her head up way too much. When she started in Ufc people weren't familiar with watching 2 woman in a cage fight. We watched men do this but never women. And at the time rousey was champion she was the best. And it's a simple grading scale in my opinion. They put 2 women in a cage and whoever wins is the winner, the best, the better fighter, whatever u Wana call it. And during that time every opponent that went against her in that cage lost and we watched this over and over and over again. And everyone spread that narrative that she was the best female athlete/fighter ever. Chael did it, rogan, Dana, celebs, late night TV hosts, major media conglomerates, athletes, fighters, fans...everyone did this because it was something new and she was winning every match and while doing that u had other females climbing the ladder and learning new and better techniques, getting skilled in striking and grappling and the time came where she met an opponent who just had better skills than she and was just a better fighter in that fight. But we can't take away what she did at the time. U wouldn't take a computer that steve jobs made from 1993 and compare to a computer in 2021 and call Steve Jobs a loser and call him a fraud who never really had technology skills and wasn't really a genius. Nobody would do this because for 1993 that Apple computer was the shit for its time and the same goes for rhonda rousey