I feel like FujiFilm is finding so much success in their digital cameras, they are finding any reason to kill their film stocks slowly. It's sad considering film is literally in their name. I hope they do come out with a replacement. If they ever get rid of superia 400 I will be completely heart broken.
I'm just glad the success of their Instax line is proving that there's still a market for analog film. But I'm guessing the only reason why Instax is thriving is because of the "develops in front of your eyes" gimmick of instant film.
Yo if we could get Kodak Gold, Ultra Max or even just ColorPlus in 120 that would be awesome. I don't get why it's not a thing already - no need to innovate, just cut the stock differently. Cheaper color film for medium format would sell like crazy + "wasting" rolls of Portra/Ektar/400H for learning color photography/development is prohibitively expensive and just unnecessary.
That’s definitely something people have requested! Not as easy to find, but I’ve found that Lomographys basic color films 100, 400 and 800 in 120 serve as a good cheap option for medium format.
I've contacted Lomography in the past and they've told me that Lomography Color 100, 400, and 800 in the 120 size are all Kodak Gold/UltraMax cut from fresh master rolls. That's also exactly why we don't see Kodak releasing those films in 120 format themselves, because Lomography is already doing all of the legwork. It's much easier for Kodak to just make and sell master rolls instead of going through the extra costs of cutting, packing, and distributing it in-house.
@@ClassicalRips Yeah, I've heard that before too but didn't know it was confirmed to be from Kodak. Makes sense that off-loading the logistics to Lomography is a good business move for both parties. What is Lomo 800 supposed to be? There's no native 800 ISO budget option from Kodak that I'm aware of.
Kodak makes a disposable camera with 800iso 35mm film loaded into it which feels like a consumer film. So I imagine that it’s likely master rolls of whatever that is and Kodak themselves doesn’t sell it outside of the disposable camera.
I think Kodak definitely knows it’s strength right now is in color (In a very saturated b&w film market). If they bring back a B&W film, it’s either going to be something that rounds out their portfolio, like plus-x, panatomic-x, verichrome pan, any of their classic good performing emulsions. Alternatively it’s going to be something that adds something entirely new to the market, like High Speed Infrared (Since most IR film on market is pretty slow speed). Color wise, going off what they’ve said, it’s entirely likely they’re going to make a film they already offer in a new format (Some say one of their consumer films like Gold, Pro-Image, Max, etc. but in 120.) Or one of the films they already mentioned trying to bring back; p3200 in 120 and 4x5 (They said they were going to 2 years ago, but said production problems were preventing them from moving forward.) As for other color emulsions, the highest likelihood of them introducing another option from a specific film family is there. (Ektar 25, 125, or 1000 are possible, or Ektachrome 50 or 200 are feasible. The Portra NC/VC lineup would be possible too but perhaps not as high a priority with many people doing a digital first workflow. More applicable would be ektachrome NC & VS which makes more of a difference in slides, VS in particular having a look closer to retired Kodachrome. A chromogenic b&w film, like BW400CN would also offer something unique to their roster. They also have several consumer oriented films that they’ve neglected over the years, chiefly kodak gold, kodak max, which had offerings in 100, 200, 400, 800, and once 100 or 1600. That would be an easy sell, particularly because they have a kodak gold 800 that is still sold (In the waterproof single use cameras), whic they could offer in normal 35mm cassettes or even in 120. There’s also somewhat more obscure but well regarded film stocks, like royal gold or elite chrome that would be pretty marketable. Finally they ) Or reviving other dead film stocks (They have a wide offering of dead color film stocks to choose from, the ektapress line (Kinda never was super popular and now mostly forgotten, but it was recent enough that the formula is still very applicable.), the ektacolor films (though they’re considered obsolete compared to porta), older kodacolor films, like kodacolor II, or Kodacolor VR (Which technically gold is a descendant of) and so on.) But There are films that Kodak could produce in 120 and sheet film that they presently do not, and I think that they are perhaps more interested in the gap left by Fujicolor in 120 and 35. So here’s to seeing what Kodak will do. My best guest is p3200 in 120 and 4x5 will be the first product relaunch, since it’s the one they already said they’d do a year ago. Next maybe plus-x but I wouldn’t hold out for it. (Verichrome pan if they’re wanting to celebrate 150 years of Kodak), followed by another offering of kodakcolor something or ektachrome something.
Noah, you might just be the reason film photography keeps going-it’s fun discovering vintage cameras through your channel 😁 you even got me posting videos about old cameras too 📸 Hasselblad is 🔥
I think what a lot of people missed in the fuji statement was that they were still going to sell fuji Pro400 for medium format throughout 2021. Like they're not gonna run out it in the next couple weeks, but if people do continue panic buying then YEAH ITS GONNA GO QUICK. I'd say to people who are worried to just sign up for email notifications and newsletters for whenever it's available and maybe get a pack or two to store in the fridge
Baught my first two roles of Pro 400 three days before the announcement... maybe these are also my last roles of Pro 400... maybe they will buy me a little island in a sunny area 😁
Been watching you since 2,000 subs and I gotta say, I really like that you seem to be having more fun with the videos! You're more casual, you're cracking jokes, you're smiling more, it makes for a way more personable video. I'm not just here to learn, I'm here to learn AND have fun! Thanks for the wonderful content!
Alas, I never got to try it since this roll was never available in my country and now that I have an income that more or less would have allowed me to buy it from another country... it got discontinued.
Kodak used to make a really good 1000 iso color negative film...I hope that's the one they bring back (but I'll settle for them releasing Pro Image 100 in 120 format)
Whatever will come out, I hope it’ll be affordable, that’s my problem with film ahahah. Shooting black and white is really a valid choice that I’ve indeed taken lol. Please Kodak make slide film affordable I really wanna try it🙏🏼
I'd love to see them bring back Plux-X from the dead, I've only shot 4 rolls expried in 1985, they looked nice beside the mark of times. FP4 is fine, but it tends to get too crispy/contrasty quite quickly unless you slightly underexpose it. Something the Kodak Plus/Double/Tri X don't do in my opinion.
I stacked up with FujiFilm Pro 400H when I learned that they are being discontinued. A couple of days later you couldn't find them in stock anymore... Such a shame.
What's funny is that it's cheaper to find Fuji NPH400 expired than PRO400H. You might not be able to shoot it at box speed depending on when it expired but at least it'll save your wallet compared to pro400h. Once people get over the fuji craze in about a year I expect the prices to go down to something more reasonable
I’d LOVE to have new Aerochrome, especially 16mm would be freaking epic. Also there’s no way filmmakers are gonna let motion picture film die. It’s just not gonna happen, tons more people are shooting on it every day.
Yes. Losing 400H sucks. But at the same time, they did not cite lack of demand as a reason for discontinuation. They cited materials problems. The last time they did that, was when the discontinued Acros. Now we have Acros II. Yes, it always sucks to have less choice, but the other stocks they discontinued were more niche stocks. This is Pro 400H. I have strong confidence it will come back in one form or another.
"so without going too crazy here, let's start to WILDLY speculate on what Kodak should, or could, either bring back or introduce as a new film." You are hilarious and I love your content, thank you.
Here in Brazil, we're currently having a shortage of 35mm color negative films. At least that's what my local retailer said, they don't have any more in stock, just B&W film. I was told that this was a "global shortage" of supplies, due to the pandemic, thus Kodak and Fujifilm weren't stocking up our retailers, and it makes me wonder if it's just here... Can you in the US and Canada, or Europe, tell me if you've heard of something similar happening where you live ?
To some extent that's happening in a lot of places over the last year. Issues in the supply chain make it hard to maintain a normal amount of production.
@@AnalogResurgence Thanks. That's what I was thinking, maybe it's not as uncommon as I thought, what a sudden shortage. Maybe the distrubuition to some countries has been delayed, the retailed expect to have some color film back by mid February.
I’ve been saying there should be a 400 speed slide film for years! I think diversifying the market and making a more practical speed (i.e. for travel, indoor/outdoor use) would actually help drive sales.
I just love film.... I want Kodak to bring back kodamatic instant film!!!!! Would love to pop some fresh film in the Handle.... for the first time since 1985...... yes I was that kid with the weird camera taking pictures on the last day of school...
I'm here in Atlanta and I just so happen to purchase a roll of 400h from ppr like 3 weeks ago and haven't used it yet. Think I'll hold on to it for awhile lol
i have an old roll of aerochrome no one will process it. probably going to have to develop it myself in e-6, it was a different process er-15 or something.
Hi Noah - I like the idea of reviving Kodak Plus-X film. I think I shot a roll of it in the 1980s, and it had an ISO of 125. Also, how about reviving a budget priced 100 speed color negative film - like a Color Plus 100? That was the old Kodacolor II film. Just food for thought. Yes the market could use a 400 speed slide film too, like you said. So Kodak has some opportunities to take advantage of the resurgence of film photography. Let’s see what happens. I chuckled at your crazy graphs! 😉
Ektachrome 400 would be awesome! I still miss Provia 400 and would love to have higher ISO options again. I think one of the films Kodak will introduce is medium format T-Max 3200.
Thanks Noah. I always get depressed when film and analog gear get discontinued. But nothing is forever, and I hope some new stocks come out in the future. Something like a lower priced 800-1000 iso colour film from Kodak or Fuji seems very practical in this day and age. Something that’s easy to get half-decent exposure no matter what the weather is like, or if you’re inside our outside. Cinestill 800T and portra800 are awesome, but they’re soo pricy. If I could (hand held) shoot film indoors or in the evening more often, I’d probably sell my digital camera.
I have gone back to shooting more film than digital I back in love with the slower process and making every shot count film is dead don’t think so more and more photographers and shooting film again my stepson is doing A photography course at school and he has never shot film before until we went out he did find it strange at first not being able to see the images straight away did make me chuckle 🤭
I have a love-hate relationship with Fujifilm. Sometimes I love their film stock colors and sometimes I dislike their colors for being too muted like c200. But every single time I stop shooting Fujifilm I have a tendency to miss fuji filmstocks and pro 400h was one of the film stocks from fuji which I really wish I got to shoot more of. Glady I was able to shoot pro 400h for my holiday trip towards the desert but only 35mm. The results from the film were from okay to very good!. One of my biggest pet peeves with pro 400h is it's too grainy, more grainer than portra 400 but the colors for pro400h were excellent. it was like shooting slide film with its vivid colors but with the extra added exposure flexibility that color negative film offers. I really wish I could've shot this film on 120 which would've yielded better results than the 35mm and the grain being fine and less noticeable. Hugely disappointed with Fujifilm discontinuing pro400h. Hopefully for the better to where I hope they rerelease it with a better chemical formula where it allows Fujifilm to produce the film easier without it being difficult for them. But for now, my new favorite film is LOMO 400 which is an excellent affordable alternative to portra 400 which is too pricey at the moment. Despite LOMO 400 uses Kodak film stock it still offers unique cool and neutral colors as compared to Kodak and fuji. I feel as if this film is the best of both worlds from Kodak and fuji. And I appreciate Lomography's mission to continue and to bring back film to the photography community as compared to Kodak and fuji which seem to be less dedicated to the film business as they used to more so with Fujifilm than Kodak wich at least is making an attempt to continue it' s film stock,
The problem is, now that it is discontinued, not only will that specific film will skyrocket in price; but since there will be more demand on the Portra 400 will probably mean the price will go up as well
I just bought a Nikon n65 do you have any thoughts on it. Been trying to find some info concerning the camera and non of the youtube videos are very good. thanks
What about pro 400h mark II, via a simpler and cheaper manufacturing method? Also I don't mind of they outsource the manufacturing to a company with resources and machines if it means that the film returns to us again! Keep up the good work!
Yeah, your mention of Infrared film speaks to me. I just ordered my first rolls of Rollei Infrared 400 and after really looking into what infrared film used to be. I would love it Aerochrome came back, but what I think is more likely is Kodak's High Speed Infrared. That would be awesome. Lastly, what I hope Kodak will do is start finishing their consumer films in 120 formats. Kodak Gold in 120 would be cool or even Ultramax or Proimage. Also when it comes to New Color film, Silberra sort of snuck onto the market with Color 50, 100, and 160. If their website is to be believed, they are only made for Silberra. My guess would be the are using old Svema chemistry at least base on what i've seen online. shop.silberra.com/catalog/film . Supposedly Micron in Germany(?) is doing the color emulsion coating for them. I'd love if someone looking into this.
yeah more slide film would be great but honestly I want more cool toned or tungsten balanced films. I'm just not a fan of the warm cast that so many of Kodak's film stocks have
Colour does seem to have suffered from cullings much more than B&W sadly. Something I'd love to see from Kodak again is Tech - Pan and the associated developer. It looked like an amazing film to use.
I know a guy who bought a huge raw roll of Kodak infrared film in perfect time to get it cheap. For raw I mean it wasn't cut so he had to get a film cutting machine to get different formats. I think he doesn't sell it to anyone just shoot it himself like all the time. I would do the same thing. It's obsolete and it still works and there will be no more at some point of time.
The future of film is probably medium format, as digital has not managed to make medium format at all affordable. The Pentax 645z is the only digital med format camera I can think of is about 10 grand.
Realistically i probably have a decade's worth of different film in my fridge. But i'm flapping cause pro400h was my favourite and is perfect for the weather conditions in my country. I'm only panic buying because i need to stock up before the ebay scalpers. Lets all agree to never pay 45 quid for a roll of 35mm...
Yes I think if you're buying just for selling it at stupid prices then that's the worst for sure, but buying with the actual intention to shoot it all yourself is much more acceptable.
The few consumer 400 ISO color negative films still exist, if you can find them -- Kodak UltraMax 400 and Fuji Superia 400 -- I think that that is it though.... If there are others, let me know!
Oooops -- yeah, there are the Lomography color films that are about as easy to find as a perfect pearl in the oyster that you have as an appetizer once a year!!! :-)
@@calchurchill2417 -- The only film anywhere near me is Fuji Superia 400 3x36 packs at WalMart. I live in a suburb of Washington D.C./Baltimore and the only traditional camera shops anymore are one or two in downtown DC or Baltimore -- with $8+ parking and ridiculous traffic. So I order online -- but then Lomo seems to be hard to find -- even the Lomo site is out of stock much of the time. My preferred camera-testing stock is Kodak ColorPlus 200 (or Gold 200 if I have to!) and Kodak UltraMax 400 -- Superia 200/400 work also and are not too expensive -- when I can find them. For color "keepers" I prefer Ektar 100 and ProImage 100 -- but of course the ISO of 100 is pretty limiting. So occasionally I will stretch to Portra 160/400 (or 800 if I can find it), but they lack a little of the "old school" warmth of the Ektar/ProImage.
I ordered a bunch of film the night before before they announced the discontinuation. I heavily debated buying a roll of Pro 400H, and got Ektachrome instead. Whoops
My two cents worth. If only Kodak brought back Tech Pan. That was the finest grain film and So sharp. I should have panic boarded that one. Nice desk 😎
Kodachrome? Nah, not that. What about just starting to sell stuff in bulk besides movie stock? But 400 ISO slide would be pretty cool. Not that I in particular would use it, but I might buy like 4 rolls for a vacation? EDIT: Vision 3 uses a very similar emulsion to Portra, so there is that.
Yo. ‘Pre Teen World’ Canada? Y’all gave us Gretzky, Celine Dion, Drake and Analog Resurgence. And just that little clip of that Pre Teen world show, and I’m ready to turn my back ..
I think that film stocks have always been discontinued and introduced. Even back in the days. These are not the worst days for film. The early 2000s were.
I don't criticize Fuji for discontinuing less popular products, but I question what is going on behind the scenes when Velvia and Provia become 2x-3x more expensive in the space of a year
That sanity over time graph is too relatable
Kodak: “we’re gonna re-release something old”
Me who irrationally likes Aerochrome: DONT LET THE FLAME DIE OUT
I feel like FujiFilm is finding so much success in their digital cameras, they are finding any reason to kill their film stocks slowly. It's sad considering film is literally in their name. I hope they do come out with a replacement. If they ever get rid of superia 400 I will be completely heart broken.
I also appreciate all of the research and effort that you put into research with the graphs.
Someone’s gotta do it
Funny enough, FujiFilm's digital camera market has been the least successful segment of their business since its inception.
I was really disappointed when Fuji discontinued Reala Superia 100. It was my favorite color film.
I'm just glad the success of their Instax line is proving that there's still a market for analog film. But I'm guessing the only reason why Instax is thriving is because of the "develops in front of your eyes" gimmick of instant film.
The amount of passive aggressive sarcasm in this video was absolutely wonderful and a perfect representation of my daily mood. Bravo. 👏
Love that Film vs Digital graph... quite accurate actually...
:D
Fuji actually discontinued Velvia 50 back in 2005 (IIRC) and reintroduced it back a couple of years later
Yo if we could get Kodak Gold, Ultra Max or even just ColorPlus in 120 that would be awesome. I don't get why it's not a thing already - no need to innovate, just cut the stock differently. Cheaper color film for medium format would sell like crazy + "wasting" rolls of Portra/Ektar/400H for learning color photography/development is prohibitively expensive and just unnecessary.
That’s definitely something people have requested! Not as easy to find, but I’ve found that Lomographys basic color films 100, 400 and 800 in 120 serve as a good cheap option for medium format.
I've contacted Lomography in the past and they've told me that Lomography Color 100, 400, and 800 in the 120 size are all Kodak Gold/UltraMax cut from fresh master rolls. That's also exactly why we don't see Kodak releasing those films in 120 format themselves, because Lomography is already doing all of the legwork. It's much easier for Kodak to just make and sell master rolls instead of going through the extra costs of cutting, packing, and distributing it in-house.
@@ClassicalRips Yeah, I've heard that before too but didn't know it was confirmed to be from Kodak. Makes sense that off-loading the logistics to Lomography is a good business move for both parties. What is Lomo 800 supposed to be? There's no native 800 ISO budget option from Kodak that I'm aware of.
Kodak makes a disposable camera with 800iso 35mm film loaded into it which feels like a consumer film. So I imagine that it’s likely master rolls of whatever that is and Kodak themselves doesn’t sell it outside of the disposable camera.
Medium format color plus would be my dream.
Need more 800 iso film in my life!!!!
Me too
I think Kodak definitely knows it’s strength right now is in color (In a very saturated b&w film market). If they bring back a B&W film, it’s either going to be something that rounds out their portfolio, like plus-x, panatomic-x, verichrome pan, any of their classic good performing emulsions. Alternatively it’s going to be something that adds something entirely new to the market, like High Speed Infrared (Since most IR film on market is pretty slow speed). Color wise, going off what they’ve said, it’s entirely likely they’re going to make a film they already offer in a new format (Some say one of their consumer films like Gold, Pro-Image, Max, etc. but in 120.) Or one of the films they already mentioned trying to bring back; p3200 in 120 and 4x5 (They said they were going to 2 years ago, but said production problems were preventing them from moving forward.) As for other color emulsions, the highest likelihood of them introducing another option from a specific film family is there. (Ektar 25, 125, or 1000 are possible, or Ektachrome 50 or 200 are feasible. The Portra NC/VC lineup would be possible too but perhaps not as high a priority with many people doing a digital first workflow. More applicable would be ektachrome NC & VS which makes more of a difference in slides, VS in particular having a look closer to retired Kodachrome. A chromogenic b&w film, like BW400CN would also offer something unique to their roster. They also have several consumer oriented films that they’ve neglected over the years, chiefly kodak gold, kodak max, which had offerings in 100, 200, 400, 800, and once 100 or 1600. That would be an easy sell, particularly because they have a kodak gold 800 that is still sold (In the waterproof single use cameras), whic they could offer in normal 35mm cassettes or even in 120. There’s also somewhat more obscure but well regarded film stocks, like royal gold or elite chrome that would be pretty marketable. Finally they
) Or reviving other dead film stocks (They have a wide offering of dead color film stocks to choose from, the ektapress line (Kinda never was super popular and now mostly forgotten, but it was recent enough that the formula is still very applicable.), the ektacolor films (though they’re considered obsolete compared to porta), older kodacolor films, like kodacolor II, or Kodacolor VR (Which technically gold is a descendant of) and so on.)
But There are films that Kodak could produce in 120 and sheet film that they presently do not, and I think that they are perhaps more interested in the gap left by Fujicolor in 120 and 35. So here’s to seeing what Kodak will do. My best guest is p3200 in 120 and 4x5 will be the first product relaunch, since it’s the one they already said they’d do a year ago. Next maybe plus-x but I wouldn’t hold out for it. (Verichrome pan if they’re wanting to celebrate 150 years of Kodak), followed by another offering of kodakcolor something or ektachrome something.
Noah, you might just be the reason film photography keeps going-it’s fun discovering vintage cameras through your channel 😁 you even got me posting videos about old cameras too 📸 Hasselblad is 🔥
Plus-X would be a real kick to bring back!
I think what a lot of people missed in the fuji statement was that they were still going to sell fuji Pro400 for medium format throughout 2021. Like they're not gonna run out it in the next couple weeks, but if people do continue panic buying then YEAH ITS GONNA GO QUICK. I'd say to people who are worried to just sign up for email notifications and newsletters for whenever it's available and maybe get a pack or two to store in the fridge
Velvia and Provia and Acros are HUGE reasons to love Fuji.
Baught my first two roles of Pro 400 three days before the announcement... maybe these are also my last roles of Pro 400... maybe they will buy me a little island in a sunny area 😁
I would love a deeper dive into Orwo film
oh yes
Only roll I tried was a complete disaster. Dont know if it was too long expired, if the lab fucked up or if I fucked up...
Been watching you since 2,000 subs and I gotta say, I really like that you seem to be having more fun with the videos! You're more casual, you're cracking jokes, you're smiling more, it makes for a way more personable video. I'm not just here to learn, I'm here to learn AND have fun! Thanks for the wonderful content!
EKTAR 1000!!!!!!!!!
Yup I want high ISO film
Alas, I never got to try it since this roll was never available in my country and now that I have an income that more or less would have allowed me to buy it from another country... it got discontinued.
These graphs are exceptional
Kodak used to make a really good 1000 iso color negative film...I hope that's the one they bring back (but I'll settle for them releasing Pro Image 100 in 120 format)
Wow such a surprise to see my zine featured in the video! Thank you so much! Great table btw, it makes a big difference... I guess haha
Whatever will come out, I hope it’ll be affordable, that’s my problem with film ahahah. Shooting black and white is really a valid choice that I’ve indeed taken lol. Please Kodak make slide film affordable I really wanna try it🙏🏼
OMG, love these graphs - made my day, thank you so much :)
I'd love to see them bring back Plux-X from the dead, I've only shot 4 rolls expried in 1985, they looked nice beside the mark of times. FP4 is fine, but it tends to get too crispy/contrasty quite quickly unless you slightly underexpose it. Something the Kodak Plus/Double/Tri X don't do in my opinion.
Hoarding film to resale at astronomical prices is worse
I've never actually shot 400H either but its sad to see it go
Kodak already has an 800 iso consumer film that they put in their disposable cameras, they could easily release it to the public
Kodak gold 200 in 120 again, I hope. Apart from the stuff they make for lomography, Kodak make no consumer 120 film.
Noah -- now I am trying to figure out how to work in a serious-sounding "loop-de-loop" graph for a high-level presentation at work -- genius!!!!
I stacked up with FujiFilm Pro 400H when I learned that they are being discontinued. A couple of days later you couldn't find them in stock anymore... Such a shame.
What's funny is that it's cheaper to find Fuji NPH400 expired than PRO400H. You might not be able to shoot it at box speed depending on when it expired but at least it'll save your wallet compared to pro400h. Once people get over the fuji craze in about a year I expect the prices to go down to something more reasonable
I so would love a color infrared film!!! I also would dig Pan-x!!!
I'm happy that I was able to get 2 rolls of pro400h before it went out of stock. I see some people paying astronomical amounts on ebay!
I loved the energy in this video.
I would love to see a consumer lineup of film in medium format from kodak. Just let me shoot colorplus in 120 bro
I’d LOVE to have new Aerochrome, especially 16mm would be freaking epic. Also there’s no way filmmakers are gonna let motion picture film die. It’s just not gonna happen, tons more people are shooting on it every day.
Yes. Losing 400H sucks. But at the same time, they did not cite lack of demand as a reason for discontinuation. They cited materials problems. The last time they did that, was when the discontinued Acros. Now we have Acros II.
Yes, it always sucks to have less choice, but the other stocks they discontinued were more niche stocks. This is Pro 400H. I have strong confidence it will come back in one form or another.
I recently purchased a Holga & I was fortunate that it came with the fuijifilm pro 400h, was like $40 bucks after tax.
"so without going too crazy here, let's start to WILDLY speculate on what Kodak should, or could, either bring back or introduce as a new film." You are hilarious and I love your content, thank you.
Here in Brazil, we're currently having a shortage of 35mm color negative films.
At least that's what my local retailer said, they don't have any more in stock, just B&W film.
I was told that this was a "global shortage" of supplies, due to the pandemic, thus Kodak and Fujifilm weren't stocking up our retailers, and it makes me wonder if it's just here...
Can you in the US and Canada, or Europe, tell me if you've heard of something similar happening where you live ?
To some extent that's happening in a lot of places over the last year. Issues in the supply chain make it hard to maintain a normal amount of production.
@@AnalogResurgence
Thanks. That's what I was thinking, maybe it's not as uncommon as I thought, what a sudden shortage.
Maybe the distrubuition to some countries has been delayed, the retailed expect to have some color film back by mid February.
I really appreciate the detailled statistics - I had a hunch about these developments in the market but now that’s backed up by the hard facts! =)
Just bought a bunch of Fuji positive film just in case they discontinue it next, 400H was my favorite color film :(
I intend to use the positive film, not sell, just to clarify
Do you think people that kodak can bring back Kodak Plus X 125 ISo B&W film?
I’ve been saying there should be a 400 speed slide film for years! I think diversifying the market and making a more practical speed (i.e. for travel, indoor/outdoor use) would actually help drive sales.
I just love film.... I want Kodak to bring back kodamatic instant film!!!!! Would love to pop some fresh film in the Handle.... for the first time since 1985...... yes I was that kid with the weird camera taking pictures on the last day of school...
I'm here in Atlanta and I just so happen to purchase a roll of 400h from ppr like 3 weeks ago and haven't used it yet. Think I'll hold on to it for awhile lol
very sophisticated graphs, excellent work
i have an old roll of aerochrome no one will process it. probably going to have to develop it myself in e-6, it was a different process er-15 or something.
Sure film stocks are cool and all, but what about Kodak finally releasing their super 8 camera instead?
“We’re gonna re-release something old” What about Kodak Supra? It was launched with Portra in 98 but it was discontinued in 2003.
Hi Noah - I like the idea of reviving Kodak Plus-X film. I think I shot a roll of it in the 1980s, and it had an ISO of 125. Also, how about reviving a budget priced 100 speed color negative film - like a Color Plus 100? That was the old Kodacolor II film. Just food for thought. Yes the market could use a 400 speed slide film too, like you said. So Kodak has some opportunities to take advantage of the resurgence of film photography. Let’s see what happens. I chuckled at your crazy graphs! 😉
Ektachrome 400 would be awesome! I still miss Provia 400 and would love to have higher ISO options again.
I think one of the films Kodak will introduce is medium format T-Max 3200.
Just saying...
That Kodak interview? Yeah, he's obviously talking about the *kodak super 8 camera* >:0
You are completely unhinged here and I love it
Normal here, reserved in all other videos
@@AnalogResurgence UNDERSTANDABLE
Thanks Noah. I always get depressed when film and analog gear get discontinued. But nothing is forever, and I hope some new stocks come out in the future. Something like a lower priced 800-1000 iso colour film from Kodak or Fuji seems very practical in this day and age. Something that’s easy to get half-decent exposure no matter what the weather is like, or if you’re inside our outside. Cinestill 800T and portra800 are awesome, but they’re soo pricy. If I could (hand held) shoot film indoors or in the evening more often, I’d probably sell my digital camera.
I have gone back to shooting more film than digital I back in love with the slower process and making every shot count film is dead don’t think so more and more photographers and shooting film again my stepson is doing A photography course at school and he has never shot film before until we went out he did find it strange at first not being able to see the images straight away did make me chuckle 🤭
I have a love-hate relationship with Fujifilm. Sometimes I love their film stock colors and sometimes I dislike their colors for being too muted like c200. But every single time I stop shooting Fujifilm I have a tendency to miss fuji filmstocks and pro 400h was one of the film stocks from fuji which I really wish I got to shoot more of. Glady I was able to shoot pro 400h for my holiday trip towards the desert but only 35mm.
The results from the film were from okay to very good!. One of my biggest pet peeves with pro 400h is it's too grainy, more grainer than portra 400 but the colors for pro400h were excellent. it was like shooting slide film with its vivid colors but with the extra added exposure flexibility that color negative film offers. I really wish I could've shot this film on 120 which would've yielded better results than the 35mm and the grain being fine and less noticeable.
Hugely disappointed with Fujifilm discontinuing pro400h. Hopefully for the better to where I hope they rerelease it with a better chemical formula where it allows Fujifilm to produce the film easier without it being difficult for them. But for now, my new favorite film is LOMO 400 which is an excellent affordable alternative to portra 400 which is too pricey at the moment. Despite LOMO 400 uses Kodak film stock it still offers unique cool and neutral colors as compared to Kodak and fuji.
I feel as if this film is the best of both worlds from Kodak and fuji. And I appreciate Lomography's mission to continue and to bring back film to the photography community as compared to Kodak and fuji which seem to be less dedicated to the film business as they used to more so with Fujifilm than Kodak wich at least is making an attempt to continue it' s film stock,
I wish Fuji would come out with more Instax film... Like Instax Wide needs some love!
Someone needs to bring out a iso 1600 colour negative film.
Oh my god I would love for kodak to bring back aerochrome. Also any kind of 800 iso color film would be amazing.
Great video👌
Loved Provia 400F pushed two stops for astrophotography
Man really has no dislikes on his video rn
The problem is, now that it is discontinued, not only will that specific film will skyrocket in price; but since there will be more demand on the Portra 400 will probably mean the price will go up as well
I just bought a Nikon n65 do you have any thoughts on it. Been trying to find some info concerning the camera and non of the youtube videos are very good. thanks
What about pro 400h mark II, via a simpler and cheaper manufacturing method?
Also I don't mind of they outsource the manufacturing to a company with resources and machines if it means that the film returns to us again!
Keep up the good work!
I'd like to see Ektachrome in 400ft & 1000ft rolls for motion picture 35mm use.
ORWO is making Lomography Metropolis but they're still looking into launching their own stuff.
Yeah, your mention of Infrared film speaks to me. I just ordered my first rolls of Rollei Infrared 400 and after really looking into what infrared film used to be. I would love it Aerochrome came back, but what I think is more likely is Kodak's High Speed Infrared. That would be awesome. Lastly, what I hope Kodak will do is start finishing their consumer films in 120 formats. Kodak Gold in 120 would be cool or even Ultramax or Proimage.
Also when it comes to New Color film, Silberra sort of snuck onto the market with Color 50, 100, and 160. If their website is to be believed, they are only made for Silberra. My guess would be the are using old Svema chemistry at least base on what i've seen online. shop.silberra.com/catalog/film . Supposedly Micron in Germany(?) is doing the color emulsion coating for them. I'd love if someone looking into this.
I’m also hoping for a Kodak consumer 120 film, like Colorplus or Gold
There is 120 gold
yeah more slide film would be great but honestly I want more cool toned or tungsten balanced films. I'm just not a fan of the warm cast that so many of Kodak's film stocks have
I wish fuji would come back with NPZ color neg (800 ISO) in 120. I loved that film!!!
Colour does seem to have suffered from cullings much more than B&W sadly. Something I'd love to see from Kodak again is Tech - Pan and the associated developer. It looked like an amazing film to use.
I would be like: "shut up and take my money" if Kodak would make E6 film with Kodachrome look
Push Ektachrome 2 stops. :-)
I know a guy who bought a huge raw roll of Kodak infrared film in perfect time to get it cheap. For raw I mean it wasn't cut so he had to get a film cutting machine to get different formats. I think he doesn't sell it to anyone just shoot it himself like all the time. I would do the same thing. It's obsolete and it still works and there will be no more at some point of time.
The minute I heard about this, I made sure to pick up a couple rolls. Hopefully Fuji re-releases Pro 400H once the pandemic is over.
We need more graphs in the film industry
Can't wait for Kodak to become the only film producer and sell £100 on a single roll of portra.
The future of film is probably medium format, as digital has not managed to make medium format at all affordable. The Pentax 645z is the only digital med format camera I can think of is about 10 grand.
Realistically i probably have a decade's worth of different film in my fridge.
But i'm flapping cause pro400h was my favourite and is perfect for the weather conditions in my country.
I'm only panic buying because i need to stock up before the ebay scalpers. Lets all agree to never pay 45 quid for a roll of 35mm...
Yes I think if you're buying just for selling it at stupid prices then that's the worst for sure, but buying with the actual intention to shoot it all yourself is much more acceptable.
The few consumer 400 ISO color negative films still exist, if you can find them -- Kodak UltraMax 400 and Fuji Superia 400 -- I think that that is it though.... If there are others, let me know!
Lomography CN 400.
Oooops -- yeah, there are the Lomography color films that are about as easy to find as a perfect pearl in the oyster that you have as an appetizer once a year!!! :-)
@@aengusmacnaughton1375 Ironically, in my neighborhood it's way easier for me to find Lomo 400 or 800 than it is to find Kodak Gold or Superia!
@@calchurchill2417 -- The only film anywhere near me is Fuji Superia 400 3x36 packs at WalMart. I live in a suburb of Washington D.C./Baltimore and the only traditional camera shops anymore are one or two in downtown DC or Baltimore -- with $8+ parking and ridiculous traffic. So I order online -- but then Lomo seems to be hard to find -- even the Lomo site is out of stock much of the time. My preferred camera-testing stock is Kodak ColorPlus 200 (or Gold 200 if I have to!) and Kodak UltraMax 400 -- Superia 200/400 work also and are not too expensive -- when I can find them. For color "keepers" I prefer Ektar 100 and ProImage 100 -- but of course the ISO of 100 is pretty limiting. So occasionally I will stretch to Portra 160/400 (or 800 if I can find it), but they lack a little of the "old school" warmth of the Ektar/ProImage.
Ultramax is the only film available near me. I order everything online as a result.
My entire early childhood in 80s in Russia was captured on ORWO UT21
I ordered a bunch of film the night before before they announced the discontinuation. I heavily debated buying a roll of Pro 400H, and got Ektachrome instead. Whoops
My two cents worth. If only Kodak brought back Tech Pan. That was the finest grain film and So sharp. I should have panic boarded that one. Nice desk 😎
OMG I hope they bring back Fujifilm DP-100
Bring back ektar 25!!!!!!!! It's a film I've wanted to shoot, but never could.
This video was insanely good...and funny!
Kodachrome? Nah, not that. What about just starting to sell stuff in bulk besides movie stock? But 400 ISO slide would be pretty cool. Not that I in particular would use it, but I might buy like 4 rolls for a vacation?
EDIT: Vision 3 uses a very similar emulsion to Portra, so there is that.
Yo. ‘Pre Teen World’ Canada? Y’all gave us Gretzky, Celine Dion, Drake and Analog Resurgence. And just that little clip of that Pre Teen world show, and I’m ready to turn my back ..
Haha maybe dig a little deeper on that obscure reference before judging
You are the best of the best
I wonder if Superia Premium would get an official release outside of Japan ‘cause of this.
I'm hoping for colour film. 2 color
I didn't understand, please put in more graphs
95% more graphs edition next time Fuji discontinues something
@@AnalogResurgence better keep MS Paint installed then because you never know
This video made me brake out laughing about 10 times 🤣🤣
Kodak, we need Gold in 120 and the ability to buy 100ft spools of color film including E100.
Needs more GRAFFSSS
Ektachrome 400 hopefully and/or Infrared film
Could the new release be.... KODACHROME?!
PLEASE
I think that film stocks have always been discontinued and introduced. Even back in the days. These are not the worst days for film. The early 2000s were.
I share these emotions
I don't criticize Fuji for discontinuing less popular products, but I question what is going on behind the scenes when Velvia and Provia become 2x-3x more expensive in the space of a year
Fuji Neopan 400 never came back, and that's a real shame, IMHO.