My Favorite Way To Get The Right Proportions For a Portrait

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  • @theart7111
    @theart7111 2 роки тому +489

    I paint for a living, and I must say, your a really good teacher. You say things that I have never been able to put into words.

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  2 роки тому +41

      Thanks! I really appreciate you saying that.

    • @pranjalshelar3830
      @pranjalshelar3830 2 роки тому +3

      And you've said what i couldn't say....

    • @chinchillamdgamer
      @chinchillamdgamer Рік тому +7

      You have my dream job. And uh, I'm actually a doctor.

    • @manjitkapri1816
      @manjitkapri1816 Рік тому +2

      @@chinchillamdgamer good job

    • @Kkajo
      @Kkajo Рік тому +4

      ​@@chinchillamdgamer it's never too late to start

  • @kimvirginia6450
    @kimvirginia6450 Рік тому +9

    UA-cam randomly tossed this video at me. I thought, “I’ll give it one minute” - You immediately drew me in and I enjoyed watching the whole thing. Excellent instruction. Thank you.

  • @rociogallegossanchez
    @rociogallegossanchez Місяць тому +5

    Incredible video. This is one of those key "ahh" moments with art. I'm regaining confidence and this just opened a gate to new opportunities

  • @sn5847
    @sn5847 3 місяці тому +2

    People who teach from own problem solving experience are the best teachers

  • @emilleum48
    @emilleum48 Рік тому +11

    This is ret., military disabled from numerous combat injuries. I think you are a great painting teacher, but when you broke your value steps down into images that I could print-out. That is so much more valuable for me because I have troubles having to stop and start the videos. For people like me, please do more of these for others like me. I can also use theses to help me work-out other portraits, thank you,
    MSG Leum

    • @claireryan8074
      @claireryan8074 10 місяців тому

      I use a great app “See Value” that translates my photos into 2 or 3 or 4-part values. It’s very helpful.

  • @Pavelek88
    @Pavelek88 2 роки тому +215

    It's uplifting to see that PROs are still struggling with the same things as beginners do :) Overcome problems with confidence built by experience, that's the main diference :)

  • @dorryrice6797
    @dorryrice6797 Рік тому +30

    You are a great artist - your portraits are magic, but if possible , you’re an even better teacher. You have the ability to remember your journey and communicate it to us! You know where you had a problem and figured out most of us would have the same issue. I’m on the patronnpag3, and I love faces, so when I can manage it, your portrait course is next.

  • @superkeyman100
    @superkeyman100 Рік тому +1

    Man ! Been painting for years living in Ireland and found your videos soo! Refreshing and teaching the right way , to be honest and objective and learn for mistakes we all make 👍

  • @StClair008
    @StClair008 2 роки тому +8

    This video appeared on my UA-cam screen and for some reason I decided to watch it and this guy is an excellent teacher. I paint in watercolor (used to paint in oils) but still found value in what was presented.. I have a proportional divider and have found it an incredibly useful tool. Also, his method of painting is solid and good to think about even when using watercolor light to dark. Creating a poster sketch first is a good way to work for that (he makes me miss painting in oils). Just keeping the concepts in mind is helpful and I like the way he presents them in a no nonsense way. He seems to have a fresh memory of having learned himself which is great for helping people who are just starting out.

  • @sal5811
    @sal5811 Рік тому

    I Used to paint this way all the time and it actually helped me paint with the trace and grid method

  • @HeleneWheatfield0549
    @HeleneWheatfield0549 Рік тому

    So much sense in all you are saying here, Chris.

  • @SweetDurie
    @SweetDurie Рік тому +1

    I'm glad I found you. I just started back into portrait painting....and I like how well you explain and demonstrate.

  • @ktuukk
    @ktuukk 2 роки тому +61

    just wanted to start a painting, been struggling to get the proportions on my sketch right and tadaaa, you uploaded the solution for all my problems :DD such a magician

    • @eileenjohnston6835
      @eileenjohnston6835 2 роки тому +1

      I use the proportional divider all the time. Works great and is fast!

  • @zephyrspride
    @zephyrspride 5 місяців тому

    Thank you!!! Oh my God this was refreshing to watch and listen to. Drawing proportions has always been my biggest issue, even in my art classes. I would start drawing the eyes first very detailed and then work my way around it, then to realize that the drawing was completely off and much bigger than my reference. I tried the grid method and that worked when I had a large scale canvas, but after that, it hardly looked right afterwards. I tried the egg method and it looked weird and my drawing looked claustrophobic like it was struggling within the egg. I'm on a journey now to undo a lot of things I've taught myself and from what I learned in my art classes. One of my latest drawings came out much better because I was taking my time but I know I'm still learning. I've been drawing since I was little (for over 30 years) and always drew freehand and drew what I saw and now I am relearning how to draw again but to take my time building up the colors and gradients and don't try to go for the super detailed look right off the bat. I'm learning that in my sewing classes now. My teacher said it perfectly, "We're here to help you correct some things you learned on your own so you can confidently sew." It wasn't verbatim but it helped me understand a lot of what I did incorrectly while sewing garments to quilting. I was teaching myself a lot and by watching tutorials, even though it looked great, there were so many inaccuracies that you can see right off the bat. But I made my first outfit for myself and I was able to make a really nice dress for myself and now I'm going to make a new quilt, same goes with working on a drawing for a friend. That proportional divider took is something I never knew about and definitely am going to purchase one.
    Sorry for the rambling, but thank you again for your video. 😊

  • @jeanetteclark9530
    @jeanetteclark9530 2 роки тому +5

    Am ordering a proportional divider. Wish I had known about this tool years ago! Thanks so much! I know it’s gonna be much better than what I’ve been doing. Like you, I’ve tried just about everything to get that proportion right. Thanks for your advice and expertise, you’re a very good teacher! I enjoy your videos.

  • @grghkllb3875
    @grghkllb3875 2 роки тому +47

    Hey Chris, been watching you for a few years now and noticed you're really starting to come into your own as an artist, especially portraits. Nice job, looking forward to seeing what you do in the future.

  • @7Earthsky
    @7Earthsky 2 роки тому +1

    I think this is the best method for me to find a likeness in portraits....Will definitely give this a go.

  • @vartanarakelian4643
    @vartanarakelian4643 2 роки тому +5

    I am a begginer and this is great especially I was struggling measuring with pencil, but Proportional Divider is the best I think.

  • @randomlyswatching9481
    @randomlyswatching9481 2 роки тому +1

    I find your insights so attractive. It's like so intelligent

  • @julianaolejkova4210
    @julianaolejkova4210 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for your videos and for the possibility that thanks to you I look at the art from a different perspective. I always find motivation not to give up after watching it. ( I apologize If my grammar is not correct. Greet from Slovakia)

  • @RatusMax
    @RatusMax 2 роки тому +8

    This method just works better. I leaned towards this when I started 2 years ago. Now thinking about it, It's kind of like calculus lol. (Hopefully that didn't scare you away. ) As the shapes get smaller and smaller, the painting looks more like the reference. (This is similar to how calculus works, as we keep splitting the squares under the curve to fit it, it starts to approximate the area under it)The thing is, if one get's very good at this shape building, they should realize it doesn't ever have to be detailed. As one looks at the painting, the question being asked is (whether they know it or not) "How little do I have to put in this painting to get the brain to fill in the rest of the information." I think that might be what Sargant was trying to accomplish.
    You know those magicians, pranksters, swindlers, neuroscientists, artists, game developers, etc? They all craft/find ways to make the brain overloaded with information (get the brain to focus on something else while having it ignore everything around it.), fill in things that are missing (The brain will sometimes try to fill in information from previous experiences of what it knows to be there), and just build on the known illusions/brain hacks the brain does to function in the world.
    The question I first asked myself when I started painting is "How can I get the likeness exact?" now ask myself is "How can I fool my brain into thinking these things are what I know with as little information as possible?"
    Watch a video called "The image you can only see once" on YT. It got me thinking, "Why waste time putting all the details in when the brain can do it for me?" The brain (at least mine lol) loves being engaged by filling it in as well.
    Most artists over the years know this consciously or unconsciously. When you start asking yourself how to trick the brain, the paintings can take a different feel to them. Random garbled mess up close can become order in the brain because one has found the key to perfectly allow it to fill in the information well.
    I don't have that skill yet lol not for another 3-5 years probably. I am still messing around with perspective and composition lol.

  • @juliebabb3365
    @juliebabb3365 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Chris, appreciate your simple straight forward approach.

  • @susanmerila4958
    @susanmerila4958 9 місяців тому

    A video I've saved to watch again and again in months ahead, whenever I hit a snag....this helps identify WHAT went wrong, WHERE it went wrong, WHY, and HOW to fix. What more could you ask for?

  • @spiritscraft
    @spiritscraft 2 роки тому +51

    As a beginner I used to make the mistake of completely finishing one eye before starting the other and I could never get them to match! Working large to small amd general to details all over the picture in stages is so muchbetter fir getting a good likeness. Much easier to catch mistakes early and correct them too.

  • @kevincage1641
    @kevincage1641 Рік тому

    Sir, you do gorgeous work. When I grow up my living room is going to resemble yours with my many renderings. Oh, and I'm 64.

  • @stevecarmean2059
    @stevecarmean2059 Місяць тому +1

    Chris, I feel like you made this video just for me, as I am in the exact same spot you were in regarding, proportion divider, grids, etc, but then what happens when just painting from life? I'm going to dig into your method much deeper. Thank you!

  • @themishening
    @themishening 2 роки тому +43

    I thought I was alone with using this method! I like to get a rough sketch down, block in then sculpt away the mistakes. Perfect measuring has never been my strong suit and I used to be really bothered by it until I found this technique.

  • @dancer4560
    @dancer4560 Рік тому

    the more I did face-portrait drawings the easier it became but you must put in the time. I remember a whole semester of just face drawing and at the end of the term I could draw by looking at a face on tv- I never ever thought I could do that but I put in the concentration and time- I love your video because it is how I like to work and I am getting back into it but using pastels now. Would love to get out oils again at some point... TY!!

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 Рік тому

    TR is a great subject! Sargent is one of the best painters I ever saw. and you ain't to shabby.

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 Рік тому

    thank you .I draw, and measuring is the most important part of it. noticed the still from 'GOODFELLAS'. gotta say, you resemble (just watched it) the actor who plays Joe Columbo on 'Godfather of Harlem'. the best part of this lesson was when you said, "in time, you won't need measuring." so I look forward to not using a baggy w/ lines across it, and top to bottom, on my monitor. you do terrific work. will return.

  • @daveemilio67
    @daveemilio67 2 роки тому +16

    Great video. So well explained and stresses the importance of being able to draw. ( a weakness I’ve developed from not drawing enough)

  • @markaszkenasy7395
    @markaszkenasy7395 2 роки тому +1

    That’s undoubtably the best video on portrait painting I’ve ever watched. Thank you!!

  • @SteSeed
    @SteSeed Рік тому

    The way to get perfect proportions is quite simply immense natural talent, which I clearly haven't got, cannot be learnt, I've given up.

  • @pranjalshelar3830
    @pranjalshelar3830 2 роки тому +1

    Very very enlightening video i must say.... If someone is looking for a perfect guide video for portraita this is it.... I've learned so much... It's like an 800 pages book in 9 pages if you know what i mean... Thanks man🙌🙌

  • @tyroneperry5008
    @tyroneperry5008 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks a lot. I been stuck a long time on proportions. You gave me insight on why I keep failing and repeating the same mistakes by getting too serious too soon.

  • @stardustgirl2904
    @stardustgirl2904 2 роки тому +7

    It's a lot of effort to get a painting right ❗ Patience is 🗝️ key! I can't paint on a day I can't sit still! Painting 🎨🖌️ dosen't come naturally, I have to work at it, unlike my Father who could paint anything! He passed away and he never got to help me with 🎨 but he was very talented!

  • @terriseaton3049
    @terriseaton3049 2 місяці тому

    Wish I had you as a teacher when I was young. I’m too old to benefit from your genius now!

  • @Temmah_tjJc
    @Temmah_tjJc Рік тому +2

    Despite being a watercolor portrait artist-everything he says here translates perfectly-all painful and difficult lessons I’ve had to learn myself over the past few years of trying to hone in on my craft and create a routine manner of making my artwork. Excellent video!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😉

  • @mwartz
    @mwartz 11 місяців тому

    Hi Chris, I have just recently seen you on UA-cam as I am making a portfolio for college, your videos are very easy to follow and your a very good teacher and I've learned a lot from your videos 😊 🎨👍, thank you

  • @worshipcoffee
    @worshipcoffee Рік тому +4

    Didnt have a proportion thingy so I just made one from two chopsticks and a hairtie haha bit fiddly but done the trick hahaha

  • @10538overture
    @10538overture 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a good tutorial. Big to small, avoiding tracing and grids (particular bugbears for me), simple to complicated, prioritising shapes and accuracy - all things that are vital to realistic painting, whatever the subject.

  • @2ndBirth
    @2ndBirth 5 місяців тому

    Thanks mate, this was super helpful. I have been doing this and wondering if I'm doing it the right way. Looks like your process is very similar to mine so it's nice to know I'm on the right track as I'm constantly second guessing myself. Onwards !!

  • @p.k.carlson6646
    @p.k.carlson6646 2 роки тому +3

    Really great reminders, Thanks!

  • @rThorStone
    @rThorStone Рік тому

    1:25 Darting your eyes back and forth is the best technique you can use, it's sooooo useful

  • @diannaantes5262
    @diannaantes5262 Рік тому

    I'm glad to find you. I am a beginner and I want to paint an old photo of my father with my sisters as we were growing up..
    I hope to eventually be capable of sketching and painting safely at this point .. I'm learning that I can't paint over my sketches yet without it being affected by the pencil ✏️ 😅

  • @SingYourselfWell
    @SingYourselfWell 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you, Chris, this was so great!!!

  • @graces4506
    @graces4506 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the tutorial it was very helpful.

  • @ronvavra
    @ronvavra 2 роки тому +1

    I started doing pen and ink drawings a few months ago. There is no going back with pen and ink. Since I am doing wild animal works from photos. I trace the proportions. Only outline the key areas then work on the tracing to give it some resemblance to the photo. From there I trace again onto scrap paper which I then finalize as a drawing which I then trace onto my bristol board where I finish the details. By the time I am ready to ink, I have virtually every single ink mark figured out. Less stress.

  • @seafirend
    @seafirend 2 роки тому +4

    Exactly the video I needed! Thanks Chris great vid as always.

  • @claires9100
    @claires9100 2 роки тому +4

    Such good advice. Thanks for sharing this technique.

  • @dbell3269
    @dbell3269 Рік тому

    I made my own proportional divider. Works just fine.

  • @AJ.1000-d9w
    @AJ.1000-d9w 4 місяці тому

    Excellent and honest instruction! Thank you!

  • @rtaber3065
    @rtaber3065 2 роки тому +2

    Your content is so good. I'm glad you made it. I'm gonna pick one of these proportional dividers and try it out. I've always used the end of my paintbrush and used scotch tape to set notches for checking.

  • @dorothygladsjo3510
    @dorothygladsjo3510 2 роки тому

    “As much of white as possible “ that was an answer I’ve been looking for!

  • @fforw
    @fforw 2 роки тому +5

    A proportional divider can just as well be used to paint from life if the subject and you are stationary. Just measure with the smaller side on your stretched out arm..

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 2 роки тому

      I haven't used anything like a proportional divider, or reference photos, for a lot of years, but I remember on of my teachers always had a proportional divider with him, and often used it just as you say.

    • @fforw
      @fforw 2 роки тому

      @@jamesaritchie1 Many people use pencils to do the same, but then you are stuck with a one-to-one scale (which works out suprisingly often)..

  • @PaolaLaborda
    @PaolaLaborda Рік тому

    I found your videos today and I really loved them, they are very helpful, I always love learning new techniques and improving my own skills, and your videos are *chef kiss* I think your style is really classic, and that makes it good for everything! because it is like following an old painter from 1880 haha, it doesn't matter if my style doesn't match yours because your advices and tricks and explanations are part of the basis, everyone that wants to learn how to paint or wants to improve their painting skills should just know. the things you are teaching Thank you!

  • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
    @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta 2 роки тому +13

    I never really knew how to use that proportional divider and get the basic coordinates. I hate gridding and so this will be so useful! Thanks! 🥰

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 2 роки тому

      My method is just to draw or paint what I see, as I see it. I don't like grids, I don't like proportional dividers, and I very, very rarely use a reference photo. It just takes some practice, something that even many extremely good artists aren't willing to do.

    • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
      @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta 2 роки тому

      @@jamesaritchie1 Impressed that you rarely use a reference photo. If there are eyes involved I certainly want a pict to look at. Thought-provoking method ....

    • @granitrocky1129
      @granitrocky1129 Рік тому +1

      @@jamesaritchie1 Reference is not a dirty word. How do you draw what you see without a reference?

  • @rebeccateakle3674
    @rebeccateakle3674 2 роки тому +1

    So much good info in this, clear delivery and loved it

  • @mickywoolf120
    @mickywoolf120 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your tips and techniques! I'm learning a lot! For the time being just watching, soon will go back to drawing and painting. Thank you so much, the way you explain things is very clear and easy to understand. 😊From Portugal

  • @paintnknitter
    @paintnknitter 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your drawing suggestions. Beautiful artwork.

  • @evaalt-revie1656
    @evaalt-revie1656 2 роки тому

    My teacher has taught us the same way, except with the gadget. Thats awesome. Must get a space thingy.

  • @grm65
    @grm65 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are sooo helpful!

  • @ctee1117
    @ctee1117 2 роки тому +1

    You are a great teacher!

  • @jananee9311
    @jananee9311 2 роки тому

    I'm not getting notifications for some reason but glad to see this video. Was very informative

  • @pumpkinspice1456
    @pumpkinspice1456 Рік тому

    Thank you for this insightful video. Much appreciated ❤. Could you please make a video about how to set up for a self portrait? I always struggle with where to place a mirror and how to keep the posture…

  • @tumblingrosesstudio
    @tumblingrosesstudio Рік тому +1

    You are just awesome!! Thank you for this!

  • @penelopepowers6615
    @penelopepowers6615 2 роки тому +1

    Love your style. I use many tips from you. Thank you

  • @jamesb2059
    @jamesb2059 2 роки тому

    You are a fine teacher. Thank you.

  • @hcanderson3787
    @hcanderson3787 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid, thanks so much! I will definitely be trying out that proportional divider

  • @dmp2461
    @dmp2461 Рік тому

    Love your process. Gonna give it a try.

  • @40bdg
    @40bdg 2 роки тому +3

    Great video, exactly what I needed! I'm definitely going to give this method a try. You are right, it does seem scary when I am used to using a grid, but like you addressed in the video, that doesn't always work either. Thanks for the tips!

  • @gerriekaychurch658
    @gerriekaychurch658 2 роки тому +2

    This is going to really help me!! Thank you

  • @ANAHATAJADE
    @ANAHATAJADE 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the information on 1:13

  • @aalever
    @aalever 2 роки тому

    When I paint from life I outstretch my arm towards the subject, then measure along the length of a paintbrush with my thumb, and adjust the distance I am sat from the subject to get the desired scale.

  • @billg3356
    @billg3356 2 роки тому

    I'm digging that that Bill Murray over your shoulder, man!

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero Рік тому +1

    I really enjoyed this video. Than you for sharing!

  • @divinesoulsista5425
    @divinesoulsista5425 Рік тому

    The next portrait I do, I’m gonna give it a shot. I’m always open to push myself

  • @pchabanowich
    @pchabanowich Місяць тому

    Really helpful - many thanks.

  • @JoeB_BSc
    @JoeB_BSc 2 роки тому

    Re grids, which on transfer are difficult even with the proportional dividers, since to measure a client's or model's face, eg, from life requires holding a measure at exactly the same lengthand angle during placement. Photos are helpful for squaring up but I find printing the same size as the desired image even easier in my opinion.
    However, I opine seeing a Durer drawing where he uses a frame with cords top to base, and side to side, ie as in squaring up and looks at the subject through the squared up frame to put the sections onto his squared up canvas presumably.
    It may be interesting to watch a video on this. Your commentary/demonstrations are very helpful. Thanks and Regards JB

  • @oatmeal
    @oatmeal 2 роки тому +2

    Your tutorials are so great! Thank you for making these.

  • @eliasandrinopoulos8746
    @eliasandrinopoulos8746 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome! Very cool technique, advice, and demonstration! So psyched to hit the canvas again tomorrow! 👏🏻😊🎙🙏🏻

  • @jcarolblair5614
    @jcarolblair5614 2 роки тому +7

    This looks like a great tip for oils! I don’t guess this technique would work with watercolor portraits?

  • @claritzairosario68
    @claritzairosario68 Рік тому +1

    I found your channel, and I love how you teach. Very interesting theme! Thank you, here a new subscriber!!!🥰💙🥰

  • @curtisbutler1050
    @curtisbutler1050 2 роки тому +2

    So good. Thank you!

  • @kristinkash2210
    @kristinkash2210 2 роки тому +1

    Help. I love your videos. You are my new paint coach. Been watching too many coaches. You’re the right one for me, but I need a video on values. I can’t find one you have done just in values. I’m sure you’ve done one, because you talk about values a lot. Do you have one. Thanks kristin kash.

  • @SeekAndYeShallFindGod
    @SeekAndYeShallFindGod 2 роки тому +1

    Great turorial. Thanks.

  • @natikier
    @natikier Рік тому

    You know how to teach! I subscribed immediately! Its a gift and a reward for the student and teacher. If you know someone who is as gifted a teacher as you and can also show me how to do this digitally, as well as color studies w/o repeating the drawing outline, pls tell me who so I can learn from them as well. Do you hire art teachers...let me know. I would love to work for you!

  • @mick-2098
    @mick-2098 Рік тому +1

    This was a reallly great tutorial! So useful and concise!

  • @chiricuttcomepapt5100
    @chiricuttcomepapt5100 Рік тому

    Beautiful class, maestro!

  • @katygardner2741
    @katygardner2741 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video! It was really well explained and I'm going to attempt this method in future 😊

  • @europeanroyalty4778
    @europeanroyalty4778 2 роки тому +6

    Have you heard of evolve Chris where they use 4 values, 8 & 6 and 2 & 4 on a 10 value scale, an extreme and moderate dark, extreme and moderate light, then turn the form with edges? I find this fascinating and I'm curious about your thoughts working this way.

  • @joycetrabattoni721
    @joycetrabattoni721 Рік тому

    Enjoyed your explanation… I will try that!😊

  • @ButchCurry
    @ButchCurry 2 роки тому +8

    ABC: Always Be Comparing!

  • @jandaniel9133
    @jandaniel9133 9 місяців тому

    I use watercolour. Wonder if this method would work. Great tutorial. Thank you

  • @jeffreybond2742
    @jeffreybond2742 2 роки тому

    Artists are also using a Camera Lucida app on a tablet or phone. They never discuss the devise and allow the viewer to assume the work is done freehand.

  • @karenrodgers56
    @karenrodgers56 3 дні тому

    Thank you! very helpful,
    warmest wishes for a joyful Christmas from Karen in Cambridge

  • @agold1702
    @agold1702 2 роки тому +1

    Learned a few new things. Thanks!

  • @sammirenee_3493
    @sammirenee_3493 2 роки тому

    I really loved this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏🏼 Can you please do a video in the future of how to mix to get skin paint colors? And what brushes you recommend?I honestly struggle with mixing colors and choosing brushes- and it feels like it’s so easy for some. Please help!

  • @yeshuaiscomingbackrepent2357
    @yeshuaiscomingbackrepent2357 2 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU! That was perfectly taught! I am wanting to do oil portraits and I have a propotional divider like yours....but I could never use it properly. Great video! 🎨🖌🖋🖊😁

  • @giannimazzei5935
    @giannimazzei5935 Рік тому

    Hi Chris. Teddy Roosevelt would make an interesting painting if combined with a Sasquatch .. It was an avid Whitman and did see that Sasquatch one point what do you think would that make an interesting painting try