Allah made all people finger print for judgement day and rebirth purposes mention in quran sura kiyamat read it also made eye password and dna code and coccyx bone in tail.......... Quran completely memories in head by millions hafiz people since the beginning of quran like pendrive system so no one can change or rewrite quran
@@mustafabhadsorawala9608 no it is not true for all ethnicities. hindus were always secular. syrian christians, parsis, jews- all got safe haven in india. and no hindu forced them to do gharwapsi. hindus dislike predatory monopolistic cults like islam and xtianity. therefore plz understand the nuance. if u go around abusing hindu way of life, hindu gods, taking things out of context then yes, yule face backlash.
I'm surprised the Oxford Union even allowed this debate, and didn't just fold and surrender to Islamists like it usually does. If there is hope, it lies with the youth, who are the source of renewal for any society.
Muslims will talk about Liberalism , Secularism , Feminism , Socialism , Equal Rights , Tolerance etc untill they will have become in Majority in that country 😊
@@sarthak3441 Are you Pasmanda Muslim or Muhajir in Pakistan? by the way our first dalit president was K.R Narayanan in 1997. Another Dalit President was Ram Nath Kovind and Our current Dalit President Smt. Droupadi Murmu. We know how to reform with time.
The West should completely disengage from the Middle East. But we know the tail is wagging the dog. President Eisenhower had a good relationship with the Arab world. He took the side of Egypt during the Suez Canal Crisis whereas Britain and France took the side of the You-Know-Whos. Just like with African-Americans, this is another case of "we wouldn't have this problem if we didn't interfere in their affairs"?
Islam is a peaceful religion, if you don't trust me ask Bangladesh and Pakistan Minorities. Oh! Sorry i forgot they almost don't exist because peacefuls already showed thr peace.
As if there are only two muslim majority countries in the entire world . from gulf to north africa there is nothing like minority oppression and you hindus first should look in your country where cows are safer than women , saffron radicals attacking mosques , muslims houses get bulldozed without legal orders , police officers randomly shooting down muslims on the streets and train and what to talk about everyday mob lynching out of suspision of having beef
Ok... coming to your first claim about peacefuls feeding half of the paj_ets ... ● 'feeding' ... i believe you mean sustaining them and taking labour from them For that people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Phillipines are brough to the well-to-do gulf countries like Saudi Arabia and Oman etc. All of them work as labourers So all of them must be paj_ets and muj_ets ig ? ● about houses getting bulldozed, yes they are and that is mainly in Uttar Pradesh Minorities are not being targetted If people build illegal structure, they willbe demolished .. as simple as that That so called minority which is actually the second majority ... your peaceful community..is spreading chaos all over the country.. building mazaard and masjids and all sorts of non sense here and there and causing inconvenience to people ● Not allowing survey groups to do their work That is how your community is.. violent AF Filled with robbers and theives and murd_rers Threat to democracy and human race @@mustafahusayn6104
The gulf countries as you talk, Saudi implemented reading Gita in schools; UAE inaugurated a Hindu temple; Kuwait and UAE import Cow dung from India. These nations don’t allow Muslim refugees at all. None of the Islamic nations allow Muslim refugees actually esp Palestinians after what they did to Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan. Hindus don’t run away from their religion and demand their religion in other nations. Muslims suffer because of Sharia and Islamic terror and discrimination but demand Sharia and Caliphate in democratic countries. The Indian temples are older than Islam itself. If don’t reclaim our lands and temples, we will end up as middle east. The rich middle east that was Christian and Pagan majority once are all shit holes now because of Islamists. Europe never protested against Hindus despite living there since ages. They’re demanding Muslims to get out within few years of migrating there, except for UK which is unofficially Islamic and a ghetto for criminal Muslims.
Hold on, I need to talk to the Muslims in India who's homes, shops and business were burned to ground and those who were victims of savage Hindutva and BJP Supporters.
@zdx9807 i really need to talk to you over waqf board which is functional as an almost alternate gov in India and which is claiming age old sites as their god's property and harrassing the common public and snatching their homes and temples which are by the way older than Islam and cities and villages !
Well, he is an unapologetic Hindu, he knows what his ancestors faced when Islamic invaders came to India. How India was partitions by Muslims leading to millions of deaths in 1947. Muslims and Islam are against Humanity. For them the whole world is divided into Muslims vs Infidels and it is their duty to wage Jihad against the Infidels until entire world is under Islam's control. The Westerners are stupid, Indian Hindus, Jews, Chinese, Myanmar Buddhists, Polish & Hungarian Christians know what havoc they cause once you let them in.
My son's boys school was in a muslim area. And he was given leaflets outside his school about converting girls from other religion's from the local mosque. And the put a value on the girls. £1000 on christian or white girl. £2000 on Hindu girl. £3000 on Sikh girl. And it is still going on. If christians had done the same to muslim girls there would had been a out cry from the peaceful religion.
This is reality bro. Western give advice to india on minority right. India have many minority but problem with only one. Same goes to you. Rather take haras decision on Islam and you live on fear. No one stop this people.
India: Hindu vs MUSLIM Israel: Jews vs MUSLIM Europe and America: Christian vs MUSLIM Myanmar:-Buddhist vs Muslim (Rohingya) Bangladesh:-Hindu vs Muslim Middle East Countries:- Shia Muslim vs Sunni Muslim Nigeria:-Christian vs Muslim Sudan:- Muslim vs Muslim Pakistan:- Muslim vs Muslim (shiya Sunni) Pakistan:-Christian/Hindu vs Muslim Afghanistan:- Muslim vs Muslim Nepal:- Hindu vs Muslim And they say Islam is the most peaceful religion.
India- Hindu vs Dalit India - Hindu vs Muslim India - Hindu vs Christians India - Hindu vs Buddhist India - North Hindu vs South Hindu India - Hindu vs Hindu 😂
@@IrshadAnsari-x5w Nopes, there's no such thing like that. Infact, in entire Indian subcontinent, expect terrorist religion followers, non terrorism religions are found majorly only in India, buddhists, dalists, christians are handful in neighboring islamic countries.
@@kh-fk3ko The whole Middle east was Christian majority and Pagan. They were inclusive and welcomed Islamists, what did you do? Make it democratic or the shit hole it is today? Iran was a monarch. It is now under a dictator. And the dictator is not from the West.
The Italian President said, "Islam is not compatible with our Italian society and our beliefs." Something of the sort. I think she was talking about all other Western Nations when she said that.
I would say Islam is not compatible with any country in the world- especially non-Muslims ones. Every non- Muslim country which has a significant Islamic population has a problem. Part of the problem is their belief that this world is a sorting ground and that afterlife is where the FUN is..
Yeah, Georgia Meloni said that. But she didn’t say this just for Italy. Her exact words were: “Europe and Islam are not compatible “. Sweden’s minister too said that Islam must adapt to Swedish values or leave. Also, Netherland’s Geert supported a brave Indian woman who faced death threat as she said a truth about islam. Trump too vows to ban islam in USA. But, unfortunately, UK is going in a different direction. Muhammad has become most popular boy name there. UK also is no more a Christian majority nation.
@@SamikshaGoyal-g4k Wow. Yeah, I know, that's what I said. She spoke for all western nations. They're all the same. white people all stick together. lol Look at the Crusades, that proves it. Its proof that all white countries sick together. It's always this "us vs them" attitude toward any person of color. They say they're tolerate but they're not.
Islamic Expansion has no permanent friends or Enemies, no permanent name or face, no permanent democracy or dictatorship (🇧🇩🇵🇰) Only Expansion is permanent.
@muhammadmafaz8530 Q: Which/Who's version of Islam is real Islam ? A: There is only one Islam, what Prophet Muhammad said and What he did during his lifetime. EVERY THING ELSE IS TO DECEIVE AND FOOL YOU.
@@muhammadmafaz8530 Majority of Muslims and majority of Muslim nations are NOT successful at all. They are not even successful at Jihad for a fact. And if you think getting 72 Hoors afterlife is a success, then your faith is pervert not spirituality.
Actually, things need to get dissected, and their are (some) if not much , rational people on the opposite side so, these rational literature works will help them to acknowledge that's its "obvious" .
Thats actually a really stupid statement, just because there is discussion around a topic doesn't mean its true, it just shows that there a large amount of people with differing views hence why its relevant enough to talk about it.
I don't think anyone can expose Islam more than an ExMuslim. An ExMuslim knows Islam more than Muslms & non-Muslims. I think the person in the debate doesn't know Islamik doctrine.
1000+ years of Mughal Islamic invasions, Islamic rule, forced conversions, brutality of epic proportion faced by ancient Indians has made it to the DNA of Hindus and Buddhists who suffered it out. Muslim invaders used to r**pe Hindu and Buddhist girls and women of India, left, right and center and export them to Damascus, Syria. This is a tiny strand of the fury Islam caused in the Indian sub-continent, after breaking it into pieces in the name of Islam. Maybe Middle East should be partitioned and Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains should get 1 country each out of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Yemen, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, UAE, etc. coz Muslim countries only respect those countries that fight and conquer them. Islam does not believe in peace, never believed in peace ever.
That's the dumbest shit you can ever say. Adding extremism in your own religion will also destroy yours, not theirs. Islam can easily be fought with ideas, not extremism.
@@MyThoughts19902X No they can't. Street power calls for street power. The so called minority are always ready to roit or protest on streets and only street power can counter them, not the arm chair scholars in their A.C. Room.
@@MyThoughts19902X Haha, that's the same dumb shit our leaders have been saying for decades. If you study the history of islamic invasions in India, you'll realize that It's is a disease that can't be cured, it can only be destroyed. India, Israel are at least on the right track.
@@MyThoughts19902X this, if they have not radicalized you yet, please leave the dal soura. the dal and the sangh just puts a saffron paint on islamic ideals and calls it hinduism. This is not what our religion is. I understand your anger but by adopting hindutva you are becoming the very thing you want to fight against
@@mukeshkhod9641 India isn't a muslim country... Pakistan has..well... a very decorated history ever since its independence Bangladesh was doing good for itself in the past few decades yes...but recent civil unrest after the regime change has made the country unstable..
😇अहिंसा परमो धर्म 😇 ahiṃsā paramo dharma (“non-harm is the HIGHEST religious principle” or “non-violence is the GREATEST law”). Therefore, only a strict VEGAN can claim to be an adherent of the eternal religion (sanātana dharma).🌱
With all due respect, i wanna clear your doubt if you want it to be cleared. It is absolutely unlawful in view of the Quran to kill somebody who leaves islam. And killing one innocent is like killing the whole humanity. Who told you all this???
Islam didn't give permission to be a an secular ... contradiction is that If you r .goo human being than you can't be proper muslim..if you are proper muslim than you can't be a good human being 😊😊
islam was founded on democracy people choose the leaders passed laws if they all agreed and heard each other out , its a religion but if what were talkig about is if muslims can be democratic ofcourse they can
I think it would just as difficult as it is now. Democracies are really hard to form and take forever to take shape. France for example took ages after its revolution to have a stableish democracy. After the revolution came the age of terror under a dictatorship (I can never spell his name but it’s something like roppespier) and after him Nepolian literally crowned himself emperor. The thing about Muslim states is that many of them are young in comparison, so their democracies haven’t matured, and as it turns out there’s nothing more destabilizing than a young democracy. Which is why many of the stable Islamic states are typically monarchies (Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Oman) but this comes at the expense of personal freedoms, the other democratic states are very unstable (Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran) because their institutions are largely corrupt and (not for nothing) they’ve been the victims of large scale western imperialism. This isn’t a uniquely Muslim thing either, much of what goes on in Arab/ Muslim democracies are analogous to South American democracies for the same reasons, it’s not that the faiths are bad, but the unstable nature of young democracies + western hegemony makes it really hard for the democracies to yield good outcomes. And when things are really unstable and unsafe, the worse of societies gain influence, this looks like Isis in Iraq (worse case scenario) but it also looks like the adoption of harmful practices as a means of grabbing power or bettering circumstances, for example in some middle eastern democracies the practice of “arranged marriages” is super good for families because it unites funds and increases stability in an otherwise unstable situation, but it typically comes at the expense of the female’s personal choice, to justify this contradiction people will often resort sexest and misogynist reasoning, to prove this however they appeal to their faith or ideology or culture etc etc, even if the faith or ideology itself disagrees with the practice.
I am tamil. No one dares to speak against islam even they committed many bomb attacks in tn (coimbatore,...) due to environment created by politicians for minority vote bank. We are not blind or dumb. We know what this peaceful community does
Why u want to create communal tensions here too ?? We have our woh people 😡🤦 AR Rahman and APJ will ve Indian and others are Pakistani 😶 Common Indian is Indian.
100% Indian Muslim know they are Arabs, 100% Indian Hindu think Muslims are Indians. Indian Muslim follow Prophet Muhammad SAW, An Arabic Prophet An Arabic Quran An Arabic God An Arabic Culture (Nikah, Halala, Halal, Haram) 😮😮😮
And how do the Muslims know they are Arabs? You know it's Our eeman(blind faith), we ignore all the genetics data. even if i was converted a day ago to islam I would make same claim that I'm 100% arab
Young chap only advice to you. We are not running to catch a train & we could have read that paper ourselves if distributed. Make yourself listen & make the audience feel your presence..
@@loveearthly No argument is perfect. The argument could have been distilled more. The skill of a debater is allowing for a few beats at just the right time to let the audience digest a point. btw It is not an insult to argue for refinement. Its a mark of respect that the argument was good enough that commenters care to want to improve it.
It's a surprise to see this in Oxford. Remember Rashmi Samant, what they did to her? The only female elected president of Oxford Union of Indian origin.
Supporting secularism itself is a huge blasphemy in Islam. Islam only allows to "tolerate" non Muslims if there's no choice. But always try to make your country an Islamic state.
Not ideal but considering the current regime around the world it is the best for now. I wish every country to be a democracy the best form of government ❤
Perhaps to break it down, what/who constitutes the “ideal form of government”. It appears to be impossible to form a coherent political system without the underpinnings of a metaphysic, and then truth value of the metaphysic still ought to be assessed. The question, when confronted at its face, is more to do with ontology and epistemology and then governance rather than the opposite.
Why Muslims trying to convince the democracy advocate that Islam is compatible or not with democracy .Islam in it self is concept a way of living in accordance with shariaa law .to not be hypocrite or layer layer Islam can't be compatible with democracy to be sincere and clear.islam don't need any other rules to be added or removed.if you believe and practice Islam you should comply with its law.
@ParthNautiyal-q8v Turkey is a secular democracy. Yes, u heard it right. It holds democratic elections regularly. Yes, their current leader is authoritarian but apart from him, it has been secular
As a Muslim i can say that Islam don't support modern democratic ideology. Democracy allows multiple ideology in state but Islam opposes it because islam is not liberal and Islam has own state governing ideology which is chilaphate and Islam support voting system to elect their leader.
@mukeshkhod9641 every state has various ideological policies that is included in constitution, ruler cannot change these policies.it is applied for both secular state and Islamic state.
@@TenzinTsering-ss8zm The conflict between Islam and west is there that western power pushed their secular world view and policies in Muslim countries by forcely. Most Muslim want to live under Islamic government system but Western world order is obstacle for establishing Islamic government system. Sharia law don’t applied for non Muslim.
Italy’s Georgia Meloni: “Europe and Islam are not compatible“. Sweden’s minister (& a brave woman) too said that Islam must adapt to Swedish values or leave. Also, Netherland’s Geert supported a brave Indian woman who faced death threat as she said a truth about islam. Trump too vows to ban islam in USA. But, unfortunately, UK is going in a different direction. Muhammad has become most popular boy name there. UK also is no more a Christian majority nation.
His points were quiet insightful. More importantly, he highlighted why at theocracy is fundamentally harmful as compared to a democratic system due to lack of accountability of leaders in the pretext of a God or higher unaccountable being
Palestine funded by such terrorist organisations which are further funded by these dictatorial islamic nations who values religion over lives These countries condemned Israel for attacking but never Hamas for attacking Israel first
Domestic violence and raping one’s wife is legal in Palestine. Looks like they need democracy. Afghan women need democracy. They are not allowed to travel without a male guardians permission, no rights to education, are forbidden from speaking too loudly in their own home incase a male passerby hears their voice and women are imprisoned if they run away from domestic violence situations.
The Thumbnail should be Islam Vs Democracy not Islam & Democracy. Thank you, internet, for showing what actually happens in the so-called great universities that we were forced to believe was better than other.
@ yeah they are following the founder of Islam on his act of murder, looting, slavery and rape throughout the history till now. Humanity had to force Muslims to be normal and act civilised so they can come in social media and blame others history.
I hope World Islamic orgs. collectively do something positive about Afghanistan issue where they are banning women to going to university & school also they are banned to speak in public. I know there are good and bad islamic people both i am not saying everyone of them are bad but we have only see them making orgs. like ISIS, Al Qaeda etc. I really hope modern islamic new age educated one make some group and make some positive changes in their rules like Turkey as a islamic country did with freedom and democracy.
Turkey ? Freedom and democracy ? Since 1918 Turkey has been a police state annex militarily dictatorship with Homo persecution, femicide and fascist nationalism, excluding free choice of religion, No priest courses allowed, with a brutal occupation of other people’s country namely Kurdistan. Please 😅
I definitely agree with you, sister. Islamic mainstream did very little to expose these cringe elements or maybe did nothing but i think that we should also consider blaming those who destroyed the middle East for their interests and paved a way for these extremists to flaunt their weapons. Also, turkey is not a good example because the way they did it in 1920's was worse than dictatorship.
Hinduism is we aren't actually we can't be because Islam and Christianity both are expansionist religion. Because in Christianity u aren't allowed in heaven unless u accept Jesus even if I do good deed so u guys must convert us all to save us from hell. I can understand your reasoning but we don't want to convert nor we like it when our brothers and sisters get converted. In NE INDIA we live peacefully . In mainland the aggression on Muslims actually get s inflicted on christians . Actually Hindus and Christians can live peacefully together if Christians agree not to try hard to convert us❤
The conclusion of the debate is that supremacy and sovereignty are not in the hands of the collective people of a particular Muslim nation or all Muslim nations collectively, but in the hands of God. The further debate begins on the existence of God and His sacred revelation (including its various forms) to mankind-whether it is true or not. The history of anthropology bears witness that belief in God is rooted in almost all civilizations. The main point is that if God and His revelation exist, then it will depend on God's arbitrary and absolute rights. If God does not exist, then who will confirm this? Those who do not know much about the universe or multiverse, have little knowledge, or deny the revelation claimed by different religions of various eras without providing solid and undeniable arguments?
Democracies won't allow it Ukraine bcoz it's a democracy, not run by a terror group. Do u want democracies to save dictators ass as well now? Be a democracy first and then give a lecture how democracies should behave.
such narrow interpretations are almost always wrong. For ex, why does he assume that Islamic majority democracies take decisions based on Will of Allah?
The notion is quite ludicrous. No theological position can truly reconcile with enlightenment values and democratic principles. Christianity and Hinduism have core values as theological ideologies that are inherently anti-democratic. The debate should be that religion or theocracy is incompatible with democracy.
@@adweitaspams by religion. the problem is, Jesus(AS) was not a politician nor did he teach Democracy, so therefore the Christians use their religion in their own way making their own laws in a way that is subjective without any guidance. Islam has clear guidelines on this.
@umeshchander5063 - nope. Hindus allowed to leave to go tonother countries. 5 million came to UK in last 5 years. Probably millions more to US and Australia and Europe. And muslims are being murdered and their homes bulldozed and forced to stay in slums by not being allocated social housing or to buy property. Keep perking.
lol who get to define democracy? in islamlic rule you can even question caliphs about the cloth they are wearing. there is high emphasis on justice. i can go on details but comment section is not the place to prove a point.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxlaSharia law is for all people rich and poor for all and no one is small or big in Sharia but in democracy the poor have more status than the rich.
This Indian speaker's talk is nauseatingly conformist beyond words. Before addressing Islam, he should confront the Indian caste system-a social structure rooted in slavery. This oppressive system, which idealizes societal stratification based on servitude, continues to operate in India to this day. Additionally, he should work on his prosody, as his delivery leaves much to be desired.
He's here at a debate about Islam, not about Hinduism. If there's a debate about Hinduism, that would be the appropriate venue to bring up casteism. When Islam is being critiqued (and lord knows, there's a TON that's wrong with Islam and Muslims today, in 2024), it's a weak argument to say, "But, but but....someone else is doing something else". That's called whataboutery, which is the only thing Muslims seem to be abled to do when they're made to stand in front of a mirror and reflect on their actions.
@@disdoncable Didn't we all know all of what you said before you said it? The terms contradict themselves. A son of a culture and society of the "castes" comes to the spotlight and talks about the incompatibility of Islam with democracy or rather "Demo-crazy", whereas the caste slavery based system is incorporated into "Indian" "democracy" What a scandalous charade.
@@saad83790 Caste system doesn't exist. Caste is a Portuguese word, the Indian scriptures talk about Varna System. This is a system that identifies the current status of ones consciousness. Every individual subconsciously holds their awareness at specific chakras, and based on where their default awareness lies, they are suited for specific tasks within society. This identification is done by a Guru, the individual being tested will go through a series of mental and physical tests to determine where their awareness lies. This was done in Gurukuls in India, but the British banned all Gurukuls. Leading to ignorance. And it didn't help that the British believed in the Aryan invasion theory, so they assumed that the caste was a factor that determined who belonged to the Aryan race. And they were known to marry Brahmin women prior to colonization of India. They would give out prominent jobs to upper classes while the lower classes were sent into labor. This further divided the Indian population, cementing the current social caste system. And Varna system didn't forbid individuals from changing class. Most of the yogic techniques are there to help individuals raise their awareness to higher chakras. Only if the Guru saw potential, otherwise they were told to go back and serve their parents and learn their skills and trade.
With all due respect, this gentleman has the full right to be critical of Islam but superficial statements define nothing. The way he criticized islam on the basis of what some countries did and ironically having democracy as the frame of reference. Democracy as an idea could be good but deeds of democratic countries in destroying those countries who seek sovereignty from their interests and oppose their political ideology wheather it is Vietnam, libya or the total destruction of middle East. That's why this criteria of nullification is absurd. Instead of framing a reference we should consider core islamic principles and then do criticism.
@@FidaHussain-v1e8o the exact Sharia law, the orginal law defined, not manipulated, no secondary meaning of words no nothing. Exactly how it was meant to be by your god.
@@FidaHussain-v1e8o well, the definition doesn't change from people to people, I'm referring the exact text what's written, and believe me, that seems to be bizzare and unbelievable how could one comply to these rules, non of your countries do it, at some instance of time, their break it, and its not their fault, complying to it is inhumane and impossible!
@tuyethoang7062 with all due respect, i am asking for the same thing from you. Just tell me what do you mean by Sharia law because there are a lot of versions to it.
Extreme Islam is the snake in the grass, moderate Islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Allah made all people finger print for judgement day and rebirth purposes mention in quran sura kiyamat read it also made eye password and dna code and coccyx bone in tail..........
Quran completely memories in head by millions hafiz people since the beginning of quran like pendrive system so no one can change or rewrite quran
@@HasanRony-wv3xdthis shit needs to get stopped
You people always tell this-that is written in quran, and yourself killing each other to get 72 hoor
@@HasanRony-wv3xd is earth flat ?
@vibhusingh9152 no
@@vibhusingh9152according to what
Muslim will talk about all modern Western ideas until they become majority
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It's true for all ethnicities though
@@mustafabhadsorawala9608 no it is not true for all ethnicities. hindus were always secular. syrian christians, parsis, jews- all got safe haven in india. and no hindu forced them to do gharwapsi.
hindus dislike predatory monopolistic cults like islam and xtianity.
therefore plz understand the nuance. if u go around abusing hindu way of life, hindu gods, taking things out of context then yes, yule face backlash.
@@mustafabhadsorawala9608not at all. O ly islam will claim your history and religion as theirs and then colonize and kill you for it.
100% they use the weakness of liberal policies to build the percentage of population then they violently revolt and capture power.
Islam and democracy together is one sentence is itself a blasphemy 😅😅
It's an oxymoron. The word you are looking for is oxymoron. Do not embarrass yourself on an Oxford website.
@@jrhartley4819you are embarassing yourself by not getting the humour
@@Itachisharingan123Democracy is will of people.. Islam is will of Allah.. can you reject Allah's will for people..?
@@usersndjkfmsreligion is made by people so is your Allah. Listen to Adam seeker and Sahil.
@@usersndjkfmswhat is the word of god with proof of the source.
I'm surprised the Oxford Union even allowed this debate, and didn't just fold and surrender to Islamists like it usually does. If there is hope, it lies with the youth, who are the source of renewal for any society.
Who make you believe that "Oxford Union couldn’t allow this"?
@@Saswata_97 Oxford Union
Oxford already lost it calibre and now it is in damage control.
@@wisdomchasedon't embarrass yourself. You people are no better than Islamists
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Muslims will talk about Liberalism , Secularism , Feminism , Socialism , Equal Rights , Tolerance etc untill they will have become in Majority in that country 😊
Ru a dalit?
@@sarthak3441are u puncture putra ??
@@sarthak3441I think you are islamic T - errorist
So true
@@sarthak3441 Are you Pasmanda Muslim or Muhajir in Pakistan? by the way our first dalit president was K.R Narayanan in 1997. Another Dalit President was Ram Nath Kovind and Our current Dalit President Smt. Droupadi Murmu. We know how to reform with time.
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Brain:- I am going out 🏃♀️
gospel truth
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Islam ☪: Knock Knock ✊✊🚪
Brain 🧠: Alah💣💥okbar!!!
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Only Hindus have guts to say this.
Otherwise mostly Christian counties busy debating on LGBT rights.
Or in setting up onlyfans account.
Facts Brother facts
As a gay man from a hindu background, you seem as intolerant as muslims
Thanks to all hindus , your hindu philosphies are mind blowing ❤
Speaking for LGBT is also necessary. If not Christians, at least atheists are talking about Islam.
Untill they become majority...they talk so sweet. When they become majority everything changes
WOLVES in sheep clothing.
Sanghi ignoring that Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia are all Muslim majority secular democracies
The West should completely disengage from the Middle East. But we know the tail is wagging the dog. President Eisenhower had a good relationship with the Arab world. He took the side of Egypt during the Suez Canal Crisis whereas Britain and France took the side of the You-Know-Whos. Just like with African-Americans, this is another case of "we wouldn't have this problem if we didn't interfere in their affairs"?
@@fawaaza.7743 secular certificate is given by a Muslim to Muslim nation , great
@@fawaaza.7743pancherputra ignore
Afghanistan pakistan bangaladesh Saudi iran Qatar etc
See majority muslim country what do
aisha : I'm nine!
muhammed : & it's fine!
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Just as Radha was 12🤣
@@MrMushranKhan pulling info out of ur ass like Mohammad did with quran oh well😂😂😂
@@MrMushranKhanand Shree Krishna was also a minor back then.
While muhmmad was 53 and aisha 9 🤡
Islam is a peaceful religion, if you don't trust me ask Bangladesh and Pakistan Minorities.
Oh! Sorry i forgot they almost don't exist because peacefuls already showed thr peace.
As if there are only two muslim majority countries in the entire world . from gulf to north africa there is nothing like minority oppression and you hindus first should look in your country where cows are safer than women , saffron radicals attacking mosques , muslims houses get bulldozed without legal orders , police officers randomly shooting down muslims on the streets and train and what to talk about everyday mob lynching out of suspision of having beef
Ok... coming to your first claim about peacefuls feeding half of the paj_ets
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● 'feeding' ... i believe you mean sustaining them and taking labour from them
For that people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Phillipines are brough to the well-to-do gulf countries like Saudi Arabia and Oman etc.
All of them work as labourers
So all of them must be paj_ets and muj_ets ig ?
● about houses getting bulldozed, yes they are and that is mainly in Uttar Pradesh
Minorities are not being targetted
If people build illegal structure, they willbe demolished .. as simple as that
That so called minority which is actually the second majority ... your peaceful community..is spreading chaos all over the country.. building mazaard and masjids and all sorts of non sense here and there and causing inconvenience to people
● Not allowing survey groups to do their work
That is how your community is.. violent AF
Filled with robbers and theives and murd_rers
Threat to democracy and human race @@mustafahusayn6104
The gulf countries as you talk, Saudi implemented reading Gita in schools; UAE inaugurated a Hindu temple; Kuwait and UAE import Cow dung from India.
These nations don’t allow Muslim refugees at all. None of the Islamic nations allow Muslim refugees actually esp Palestinians after what they did to Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan.
Hindus don’t run away from their religion and demand their religion in other nations. Muslims suffer because of Sharia and Islamic terror and discrimination but demand Sharia and Caliphate in democratic countries.
The Indian temples are older than Islam itself. If don’t reclaim our lands and temples, we will end up as middle east.
The rich middle east that was Christian and Pagan majority once are all shit holes now because of Islamists. Europe never protested against Hindus despite living there since ages. They’re demanding Muslims to get out within few years of migrating there, except for UK which is unofficially Islamic and a ghetto for criminal Muslims.
Hold on, I need to talk to the Muslims in India who's homes, shops and business were burned to ground and those who were victims of savage Hindutva and BJP Supporters.
@zdx9807 i really need to talk to you over waqf board which is functional as an almost alternate gov in India and which is claiming age old sites as their god's property and harrassing the common public and snatching their homes and temples which are by the way older than Islam and cities and villages !
He got some real balls.
Well, he is an unapologetic Hindu, he knows what his ancestors faced when Islamic invaders came to India. How India was partitions by Muslims leading to millions of deaths in 1947. Muslims and Islam are against Humanity. For them the whole world is divided into Muslims vs Infidels and it is their duty to wage Jihad against the Infidels until entire world is under Islam's control.
The Westerners are stupid, Indian Hindus, Jews, Chinese, Myanmar Buddhists, Polish & Hungarian Christians know what havoc they cause once you let them in.
did you touch it in person?
@@mohameddharig9797 nah, ayesha did of muhammad.
@@mohameddharig9797 your prophett did
@@mohameddharig9797did you see Allah in person? If no, why are you Muz??
My son's boys school was in a muslim area. And he was given leaflets outside his school about converting girls from other religion's from the local mosque. And the put a value on the girls. £1000 on christian or white girl. £2000 on Hindu girl. £3000 on Sikh girl. And it is still going on. If christians had done the same to muslim girls there would had been a out cry from the peaceful religion.
This is reality bro.
Western give advice to india on minority right. India have many minority but problem with only one. Same goes to you.
Rather take haras decision on Islam and you live on fear.
No one stop this people.
@@jasral7767 You should’ve taken a picture and made it viral and filed a complaint.
Very common in India. When BJP raise this issue as love jihad, whole psudeo liberal lobby shout
That's fucking NUTS!
Christians do this in India.
India: Hindu vs MUSLIM
Israel: Jews vs MUSLIM
Europe and America: Christian vs MUSLIM
Myanmar:-Buddhist vs Muslim (Rohingya)
Bangladesh:-Hindu vs Muslim
Middle East Countries:- Shia Muslim vs Sunni Muslim
Nigeria:-Christian vs Muslim
Sudan:- Muslim vs Muslim
Pakistan:- Muslim vs Muslim (shiya Sunni)
Pakistan:-Christian/Hindu vs Muslim
Afghanistan:- Muslim vs Muslim
Nepal:- Hindu vs Muslim
And they say Islam is the most peaceful religion.
India- Hindu vs Dalit
India - Hindu vs Muslim
India - Hindu vs Christians
India - Hindu vs Buddhist
India - North Hindu vs South Hindu
India - Hindu vs Hindu 😂
@@IrshadAnsari-x5w Nopes, there's no such thing like that. Infact, in entire Indian subcontinent, expect terrorist religion followers, non terrorism religions are found majorly only in India, buddhists, dalists, christians are handful in neighboring islamic countries.
@@IrshadAnsari-x5w toh nikal Jaa naa pakistan
@@IrshadAnsari-x5wnot really
Come to South India Kerala
You can see Christians vs Muslims
@@IrshadAnsari-x5wYou talked only about India
Hence shifted the goalpost
Why this debate is even a thing? When almost all Islamic countries are not democracies 😂
Yes, alot used to be until they were overthrown by dictators supported by overseas government. Don’t act stupid. Are you Indian?
@@kh-fk3ko sure dude. The west is responsible for your apostasy laws. Nobody is buying it any more.
@@kh-fk3kothats the whole point
Dictators come into the scene in almost all of these Islamic majority countries.Why?
@@kh-fk3ko The whole Middle east was Christian majority and Pagan. They were inclusive and welcomed Islamists, what did you do? Make it democratic or the shit hole it is today?
Iran was a monarch. It is now under a dictator. And the dictator is not from the West.
*Muhammed teaching is a problem for humanity because of his lifestyle and deeds*
Islam is a peaceful religion. It encourages minorities of other religions to rest in Peace 🕊️
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Islam gives total peace! Peace of the graveyard!
👏👏👏👏👏👍😅😅
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Conversion is like a MLM - Multi Level Marketing scheme.
First you get converted
Then you convert others
Then others convert others.
It is exactly like an MLM, but with a death penalty if you try to leave.
@@freedahlogic8368 haha hell yeah
Bakths don't understand that for converting a person your religious scriptures have to be logical and truthful btw what is your religion ؟
💀💀☠️🏴☠️
More like a ponzi scheme
legends say, If muslims could read the book and understand it, they would leave the cult!
i dont think book is bad, its how they interperate it, its how they want to force it on everyone
@@mukeshkhod9641 Then brother Clearly you have not read it, if u think so
Exmuslim Sahil, adam seeker, Zaffar heretic are indeed legends
Did he borrow his outfit from his elder relative ?
Such an unfit !!
Do not underestimate the ability of Muslims to be presented with objective facts and still say "Nah"
The Italian President said, "Islam is not compatible with our Italian society and our beliefs." Something of the sort. I think she was talking about all other Western Nations when she said that.
I would say Islam is not compatible with any country in the world- especially non-Muslims ones. Every non- Muslim country which has a significant Islamic population has a problem.
Part of the problem is their belief that this world is a sorting ground and that afterlife is where the FUN is..
Yeah, Georgia Meloni said that. But she didn’t say this just for Italy. Her exact words were: “Europe and Islam are not compatible “. Sweden’s minister too said that Islam must adapt to Swedish values or leave. Also, Netherland’s Geert supported a brave Indian woman who faced death threat as she said a truth about islam. Trump too vows to ban islam in USA. But, unfortunately, UK is going in a different direction. Muhammad has become most popular boy name there. UK also is no more a Christian majority nation.
@@SamikshaGoyal-g4k Wow. Yeah, I know, that's what I said. She spoke for all western nations. They're all the same. white people all stick together. lol Look at the Crusades, that proves it. Its proof that all white countries sick together. It's always this "us vs them" attitude toward any person of color. They say they're tolerate but they're not.
@@SamikshaGoyal-g4k yeah, majority atheists in uk, maybe it's God's way of teaching them a lesson with this islamic incursion😅😅
civilisation clash is inevitable in india
Islamic Expansion has
no permanent friends or Enemies,
no permanent name or face,
no permanent democracy or dictatorship (🇧🇩🇵🇰)
Only Expansion is permanent.
We worship only Allah no one anything else, prophet pbuh is our messenger. If you accept this then you will be successful in rest of your life
@muhammadmafaz8530 Q: Which/Who's version of Islam is real Islam ?
A: There is only one Islam, what Prophet Muhammad said and What he did during his lifetime.
EVERY THING ELSE IS TO DECEIVE AND FOOL YOU.
@@muhammadmafaz8530we don’t accept it , please keep your religion to yourself.
@@muhammadmafaz8530 Majority of Muslims and majority of Muslim nations are NOT successful at all. They are not even successful at Jihad for a fact.
And if you think getting 72 Hoors afterlife is a success, then your faith is pervert not spirituality.
And then self destruction when there is nothing else to fight for.
wherever Islam goes, peace disappears.
Radical Islam is the snake hiding in the grass,
Moderate Islam is the grass hiding the snake.
You need to see what happens ro minorities when Islam is in manjority....see Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan..
We're seeing what's happening in India paj33t
The fact that we are even debating this .. 🤦. Isn't it obvious?
Actually, things need to get dissected, and their are (some) if not much , rational people on the opposite side so, these rational literature works will help them to acknowledge that's its "obvious" .
Watch the debates before speaking, the only reason you are here is because of the title. 🤦
jeet, is jeeting.
Thats actually a really stupid statement, just because there is discussion around a topic doesn't mean its true, it just shows that there a large amount of people with differing views hence why its relevant enough to talk about it.
@@H786...And Palestinians are paying for hiding terr*rists in their basements 😢
I don't think anyone can expose Islam more than an ExMuslim. An ExMuslim knows Islam more than Muslms & non-Muslims. I think the person in the debate doesn't know Islamik doctrine.
I see this too
Now question is in which culture will you do nomenclature of your children, anyone accepted except arabic script name
My English is weak, so ignore it
Very intelligent guy. Well done for the clear and correct arguments. Clearly he has an in-depth understanding of what Islam is.
Because we are facing this each and every single day in India .
No 😂
@@bettycooper5029 Well, saying "no" does not provide any counter-argument. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's false.
1000+ years of Mughal Islamic invasions, Islamic rule, forced conversions, brutality of epic proportion faced by ancient Indians has made it to the DNA of Hindus and Buddhists who suffered it out. Muslim invaders used to r**pe Hindu and Buddhist girls and women of India, left, right and center and export them to Damascus, Syria. This is a tiny strand of the fury Islam caused in the Indian sub-continent, after breaking it into pieces in the name of Islam.
Maybe Middle East should be partitioned and Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains should get 1 country each out of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Yemen, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, UAE, etc. coz Muslim countries only respect those countries that fight and conquer them. Islam does not believe in peace, never believed in peace ever.
Without lies Islam dies
I joined the Bajrang Dal not because I am a Hindu Extremist. I joined simply because I know the reality of Islam.
That's the dumbest shit you can ever say. Adding extremism in your own religion will also destroy yours, not theirs.
Islam can easily be fought with ideas, not extremism.
@@MyThoughts19902X No they can't. Street power calls for street power. The so called minority are always ready to roit or protest on streets and only street power can counter them, not the arm chair scholars in their A.C. Room.
@@MyThoughts19902X Haha, that's the same dumb shit our leaders have been saying for decades. If you study the history of islamic invasions in India, you'll realize that
It's is a disease that can't be cured, it can only be destroyed.
India, Israel are at least on the right track.
@@MyThoughts19902X this, if they have not radicalized you yet, please leave the dal soura. the dal and the sangh just puts a saffron paint on islamic ideals and calls it hinduism. This is not what our religion is. I understand your anger but by adopting hindutva you are becoming the very thing you want to fight against
Proud son of India. Go tell them the truth our civilisation has witnessed for centuries.
"Without Lies Islam dies" said by someone Wise!!
Repeated by someone nice
Tell me at least 3 Muslim country that are proper functional Democracy.
india pakistan bangladesh
@@mukeshkhod9641 India isn't a muslim country...
Pakistan has..well... a very decorated history ever since its independence
Bangladesh was doing good for itself in the past few decades yes...but recent civil unrest after the regime change has made the country unstable..
Pakistan and bangladesh are military dictatorship and india is hindu country
Turkey, indonesia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, malaysia, Maldives, Senegal, Tunisia, Kyrgyzstan
@mukeshkhod9641 yeah buddy no pakistan pm has ever completed a full term. Look what's happening in Bangladesh right now. They are not democracies
That's true. Fact checked by a Bangladeshi Exmuslim who studied islam for more than 7 years.
islam is a lovely religion of peace because if u try leave islam u will get rest in peace
Lindu
😇अहिंसा परमो धर्म 😇
ahiṃsā paramo dharma
(“non-harm is the HIGHEST religious principle” or “non-violence is the GREATEST law”).
Therefore, only a strict VEGAN can claim to be an adherent of the eternal religion (sanātana dharma).🌱
With all due respect, i wanna clear your doubt if you want it to be cleared. It is absolutely unlawful in view of the Quran to kill somebody who leaves islam. And killing one innocent is like killing the whole humanity.
Who told you all this???
Said by a Lindu who is trying his best to forcefully apply Ghar wapsi to worship Shivland
@@Aryan-qj2th shiv>>>ola
Islam didn't give permission to be a an secular
... contradiction is that
If you r .goo human being than you can't be proper muslim..if you are proper muslim than you can't be a good human being 😊😊
If everyone was a Muslim would democracy be possible or is it another paradox?
islam was founded on democracy people choose the leaders passed laws if they all agreed and heard each other out , its a religion but if what were talkig about is if muslims can be democratic ofcourse they can
@@bigm317 To be sure, are you arguing that Islam is an opt-in religion?
I think it would just as difficult as it is now. Democracies are really hard to form and take forever to take shape. France for example took ages after its revolution to have a stableish democracy. After the revolution came the age of terror under a dictatorship (I can never spell his name but it’s something like roppespier) and after him Nepolian literally crowned himself emperor.
The thing about Muslim states is that many of them are young in comparison, so their democracies haven’t matured, and as it turns out there’s nothing more destabilizing than a young democracy. Which is why many of the stable Islamic states are typically monarchies (Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Oman) but this comes at the expense of personal freedoms, the other democratic states are very unstable (Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran) because their institutions are largely corrupt and (not for nothing) they’ve been the victims of large scale western imperialism.
This isn’t a uniquely Muslim thing either, much of what goes on in Arab/ Muslim democracies are analogous to South American democracies for the same reasons, it’s not that the faiths are bad, but the unstable nature of young democracies + western hegemony makes it really hard for the democracies to yield good outcomes. And when things are really unstable and unsafe, the worse of societies gain influence, this looks like Isis in Iraq (worse case scenario) but it also looks like the adoption of harmful practices as a means of grabbing power or bettering circumstances, for example in some middle eastern democracies the practice of “arranged marriages” is super good for families because it unites funds and increases stability in an otherwise unstable situation, but it typically comes at the expense of the female’s personal choice, to justify this contradiction people will often resort sexest and misogynist reasoning, to prove this however they appeal to their faith or ideology or culture etc etc, even if the faith or ideology itself disagrees with the practice.
Islam agrees on theodemocracy which is different from western democracy system,so yes democracy would still work but with God as supreme authority
@@straight_8 Forget democracy, Oxford would have met the fate of Nalanda, and this Debate would be a nightmare.
The fact that this debate happened is in itself a big achievement!
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Let us have Islam Free World for humanity
Amen
@@Thunderbolt_5 fr that everyone neeeds to unite against oic
Bro spoke like true warrior 🗿🔥
Tamil people can't speak against Islam like this when they are in India. Seems like their state government is the real issue.
I am tamil. No one dares to speak against islam even they committed many bomb attacks in tn (coimbatore,...) due to environment created by politicians for minority vote bank. We are not blind or dumb. We know what this peaceful community does
its communist plus congress regime wat do u expect
@@Sel-25-va my guy 😭 come to North we desperately need some Tamilian speakers to voice the concern a native will do the job better
Why u want to create communal tensions here too ?? We have our woh people 😡🤦 AR Rahman and APJ will ve Indian and others are Pakistani 😶 Common Indian is Indian.
@@isns2502 That's why we are more educated and grown up state not like UP/BIHAR selling Panipuri 🤦
How stupid are we, we can see this all around the world, we can read history and still we have to argue on this.
100% Indian Muslim know they are Arabs,
100% Indian Hindu think Muslims are Indians.
Indian Muslim follow Prophet Muhammad SAW,
An Arabic Prophet
An Arabic Quran
An Arabic God
An Arabic Culture (Nikah, Halala, Halal, Haram)
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Allah is one, he doesn't depend on anything everything depends on him
indian musllims are forcfully converted indian not arabs lol, DNA test proves it lol
@@muhammadmafaz8530allah is pagan god of quraysh
@@muhammadmafaz8530A non existent god!😂
And how do the Muslims know they are Arabs?
You know it's Our eeman(blind faith), we ignore all the genetics data. even if i was converted a day ago to islam I would make same claim that I'm 100% arab
Wow finally one clip of truth from Oxford on how serious the issue is
Young chap only advice to you. We are not running to catch a train & we could have read that paper ourselves if distributed. Make yourself listen & make the audience feel your presence..
Through the wheel (parameters) you can slow him down! At 75% he is quite OK :)
@@bedardpelchat not talking about his content here..
@@amitdangwal3041You are wishing him to slow down. UA-cam gives you to the tools to do so. The previous commenter was showing you how to.
@@loveearthly No argument is perfect. The argument could have been distilled more. The skill of a debater is allowing for a few beats at just the right time to let the audience digest a point.
btw It is not an insult to argue for refinement. Its a mark of respect that the argument was good enough that commenters care to want to improve it.
@@freedahlogic8368 Sure. I don't understand why you are telling this to me.
Surah 9 Aayat 5 of Quran is enough for a moral and ethical muslim to leave islam
Waiting for J Sai Deepak to come in and debate at the Oxford Union
Why do you need validation from people who can't save themselves?!
Look up which name has become number one in UK among the newborns.
It's a surprise to see this in Oxford. Remember Rashmi Samant, what they did to her? The only female elected president of Oxford Union of Indian origin.
I admire Rashmi Samant for her bravery and guts to stand up to the lobby of bullies and extremists.
@Janani_Kannan Her book is out and available "A Hindu in Oxford".
Supporting secularism itself is a huge blasphemy in Islam.
Islam only allows to "tolerate" non Muslims if there's no choice. But always try to make your country an Islamic state.
Damn oxford has spine to actually allow such topics to be disscussed ,great
Kudos to mr Ramakrishnan ❤
The real question is 'is democracy an ideal form of government ?'
Not ideal but considering the current regime around the world it is the best for now. I wish every country to be a democracy the best form of government ❤
Perhaps to break it down, what/who constitutes the “ideal form of government”. It appears to be impossible to form a coherent political system without the underpinnings of a metaphysic, and then truth value of the metaphysic still ought to be assessed. The question, when confronted at its face, is more to do with ontology and epistemology and then governance rather than the opposite.
I put it on 0.9x which I found was about right!
it indeed is
he sounds very nervous.
@@H786... nope he wasnt he was just in a hurry
Why Muslims trying to convince the democracy advocate that Islam is compatible or not with democracy .Islam in it self is concept a way of living in accordance with shariaa law .to not be hypocrite or layer layer Islam can't be compatible with democracy to be sincere and clear.islam don't need any other rules to be added or removed.if you believe and practice Islam you should comply with its law.
But spend all their life’s i a haram country …all hypocrisy…
islam is not compatible with ideal human being
its depend how you interpret Quran, for rational person, democracy totally compatible with Islam while for extremist democracy is infidel ideology.
When do you read the Koran? The Qur'an speaks of humanity@@ShubhamGupta-hg9md
Islam is not compatible with 21st century either.
You cant name a few muslim countries which are democratic.
Turkey indonesia uzbekistan and many more
Even the so-called democratic ones are turning radical and oppressive. Apologies don't work.
@@kushagrasrivastava8432😂😂😂yaa 😃
@@kushagrasrivastava8432 I can agree on Indonesia but bro turkey and uzbekistan😂😂😂😂
And out of 57 you got those 3 out of which 1 is correct😂😂
@ParthNautiyal-q8v Turkey is a secular democracy. Yes, u heard it right. It holds democratic elections regularly. Yes, their current leader is authoritarian but apart from him, it has been secular
As a Muslim i can say that Islam don't support modern democratic ideology. Democracy allows multiple ideology in state but Islam opposes it because islam is not liberal and Islam has own state governing ideology which is chilaphate and Islam support voting system to elect their leader.
Islam is against freedom
elected leader is there to follow word of allah, cant make rules?
@mukeshkhod9641 every state has various ideological policies that is included in constitution, ruler cannot change these policies.it is applied for both secular state and Islamic state.
@@ramzan6949okay but u guys disturb whole world peace,and demand sharia law in Europe tell me
@@TenzinTsering-ss8zm The conflict between Islam and west is there that western power pushed their secular world view and policies in Muslim countries by forcely. Most Muslim want to live under Islamic government system but Western world order is obstacle for establishing Islamic government system. Sharia law don’t applied for non Muslim.
They have mehndi Hasan type person also who will aggressively defend the most illogical things
this not a debate when both sides are apologists
Tamilian when out of Tamil Nadu 🥶🥶👿😈
Tamilian when in Tamil Nadu 😷😷🙊🙈🙉😅😂
Paaapan will be Paappan 😂😂 He isn't Tamilan, he is an Aryan gene not from India if u u start looking into their genes. 😂😂
100% right. And the effect of Islam is seen in all the free countries.
Italy’s Georgia Meloni: “Europe and Islam are not compatible“. Sweden’s minister (& a brave woman) too said that Islam must adapt to Swedish values or leave. Also, Netherland’s Geert supported a brave Indian woman who faced death threat as she said a truth about islam. Trump too vows to ban islam in USA. But, unfortunately, UK is going in a different direction. Muhammad has become most popular boy name there. UK also is no more a Christian majority nation.
Watch *Christian Prince debate* to know who is Muhammad
Can't believe this insanity still exists!
So I guess Oxford union really likes to rattle nerves on all sides.
His points were quiet insightful. More importantly, he highlighted why at theocracy is fundamentally harmful as compared to a democratic system due to lack of accountability of leaders in the pretext of a God or higher unaccountable being
Without lust
Islam is lost😂😂
Extreme Islam and Extreme Hinduism are equally same. U can see Current India and Pakistan 😡🤦
At last, the world has slowly started to recognise the elephant in the room....
He made legitimate, irrefutable points. A bull in a china shop.
Palestine and Ukraine shows What democracy is
Yes completley, 15 years without an election is most definitely the peak of democracy.
Eh? Palestine is rule by organised crime. What are you talking about?
Palestine funded by such terrorist organisations which are further funded by these dictatorial islamic nations who values religion over lives
These countries condemned Israel for attacking but never Hamas for attacking Israel first
can YOU elaborate more on it?
Domestic violence and raping one’s wife is legal in Palestine. Looks like they need democracy. Afghan women need democracy. They are not allowed to travel without a male guardians permission, no rights to education, are forbidden from speaking too loudly in their own home incase a male passerby hears their voice and women are imprisoned if they run away from domestic violence situations.
The Thumbnail should be Islam Vs Democracy not Islam & Democracy.
Thank you, internet, for showing what actually happens in the so-called great universities that we were forced to believe was better than other.
can't blame them for doing that after the acts commited by islamic ruler in medieval periods
@ yeah they are following the founder of Islam on his act of murder, looting, slavery and rape throughout the history till now. Humanity had to force Muslims to be normal and act civilised so they can come in social media and blame others history.
Islam is not compatible for West and Far East ❌
But the fact is democracy does not exist in Islamic countries.... so the guy states the obvious
Good speaker - but should speak slowly and with concise words/phrasing.
Great argument which cuts right to the heart 9f the matter. Thank you.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🫡 to your courage to speak truth on Sislam
I hope World Islamic orgs. collectively do something positive about Afghanistan issue where they are banning women to going to university & school also they are banned to speak in public.
I know there are good and bad islamic people both i am not saying everyone of them are bad but we have only see them making orgs. like ISIS, Al Qaeda etc. I really hope modern islamic new age educated one make some group and make some positive changes in their rules like Turkey as a islamic country did with freedom and democracy.
Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
Turkey ? Freedom and democracy ? Since 1918 Turkey has been a police state annex militarily dictatorship with Homo persecution, femicide and fascist nationalism, excluding free choice of religion, No priest courses allowed, with a brutal occupation of other people’s country namely Kurdistan. Please 😅
first concentrate on your religion, talk about Superstition beliefs. after correcting your religion talk about others.
I definitely agree with you, sister. Islamic mainstream did very little to expose these cringe elements or maybe did nothing but i think that we should also consider blaming those who destroyed the middle East for their interests and paved a way for these extremists to flaunt their weapons.
Also, turkey is not a good example because the way they did it in 1920's was worse than dictatorship.
All religions are superstitious
Little Change: It's "Islam OR Democracy"!
In 2024, do we still even need to debate this. It's been incompatible with civilisation since its inception.
I usually watch videos in 1.5x when I'm studying. But this time it somehow feels I'm already watching in 1.75x hahaha. Thoda dheere bolo bhai
Democracy is challange for allha (Authority and power) so it's haram
The real winner of the Islamic world is the Islamic government and it’s ruler
Islam don't know democraty.
Muslims who says there are democraty in Islam is a liar.
Well said bhai ❤❤❤❤
All this does is prove that having too much money shouldn’t be a proxy for getting into Oxford.
Lol
What the hell are you talking about
Is Hinduism compatible to the democracy and equality ? First ask this dude .
Yes it is because it allows people to believe in whatever god they want or not believe any, of they are atheist.
Hinduism is we aren't actually we can't be because Islam and Christianity both are expansionist religion. Because in Christianity u aren't allowed in heaven unless u accept Jesus even if I do good deed so u guys must convert us all to save us from hell. I can understand your reasoning but we don't want to convert nor we like it when our brothers and sisters get converted. In NE INDIA we live peacefully . In mainland the aggression on Muslims actually get s inflicted on christians . Actually Hindus and Christians can live peacefully together if Christians agree not to try hard to convert us❤
Btw u r allowed in heaven if u do good in Hinduism❤ even if u remain Christian so just follow the teachings of Christ and u shall be good
Yeah cause Hinduism literally allowed multiple ideologies to come into existent and prosper. Unlike some cults which call other religions as demonic.
Religion itself is rigid.
The conclusion of the debate is that supremacy and sovereignty are not in the hands of the collective people of a particular Muslim nation or all Muslim nations collectively, but in the hands of God. The further debate begins on the existence of God and His sacred revelation (including its various forms) to mankind-whether it is true or not. The history of anthropology bears witness that belief in God is rooted in almost all civilizations. The main point is that if God and His revelation exist, then it will depend on God's arbitrary and absolute rights. If God does not exist, then who will confirm this? Those who do not know much about the universe or multiverse, have little knowledge, or deny the revelation claimed by different religions of various eras without providing solid and undeniable arguments?
Allah is above Democracy......just think
@@SOTV1968 If anyone wants to live in the society think of democracy, if you want to live with Allah you don't 🤡
can democracies be complicit and responsible for the Gaza genocide?
democracies will not allow it in Ukraine.
there should be consistency in democracy.
Democracies won't allow it Ukraine bcoz it's a democracy, not run by a terror group. Do u want democracies to save dictators ass as well now? Be a democracy first and then give a lecture how democracies should behave.
Why is the muslim world complicit.
@@AmicableAgnostic victims being oppressed since 1937 are dictators?
such narrow interpretations are almost always wrong. For ex, why does he assume that Islamic majority democracies take decisions based on Will of Allah?
haha what is final word of allah or humanity
This debate should be common sense now.
And we all must act to save from this.
The notion is quite ludicrous. No theological position can truly reconcile with enlightenment values and democratic principles.
Christianity and Hinduism have core values as theological ideologies that are inherently anti-democratic.
The debate should be that religion or theocracy is incompatible with democracy.
Agree
Who cares about democracy.
fr these people treat it like a religion.
Me I care about it!!!!!!!! People who are civilised care!
@@H786... then how should u govern a country?
Everyone except the kid on the internet...like you
@@adweitaspams by religion. the problem is, Jesus(AS) was not a politician nor did he teach Democracy, so therefore the Christians use their religion in their own way making their own laws in a way that is subjective without any guidance. Islam has clear guidelines on this.
90 percent of the comment section is filled with Hindus with different names .
Keep lying (taqqiah) and you’ll get your 72 virgins! Wonder what Muslim women get? lol
Because Hindus are the most affected religious group so look afganistan, Pakistan, and now Bangladesh.
@@BSDas-mt5sbeven in India
Because we have suffered Islam the most out of any other country or people.
They have build mosques over our temples and proudly defend it today.
I think indians should look at their own india before they comment on democracy and treatment of minorities.
Minorities are very happy and growing.
@umeshchander5063 - nope. Hindus allowed to leave to go tonother countries. 5 million came to UK in last 5 years. Probably millions more to US and Australia and Europe. And muslims are being murdered and their homes bulldozed and forced to stay in slums by not being allocated social housing or to buy property. Keep perking.
I think that we are worthy of commenting on democracy considering we are the founders of it, and established its key principles for it
How are the minorities in muslim countries ?!!
@@umeshchander5063 Pervasive Islamophobia by the right suggests otherwise.
#Ambedkar❤ in his Book write- - " *THE BROTHERHOOD OF MUSLIM IS NOT UNIVERSAL BUT IT IS THE BROTHERHOOD OF A MUSLIM TO ANOTHER MUSLIM* "
That Moderator and Timekeeper were simply despicable.
Islam and Democracy, intelligence, or human rights etc are absolutely mutually exlusive words.
What an important essay
lol who get to define democracy?
in islamlic rule you can even question caliphs about the cloth they are wearing.
there is high emphasis on justice.
i can go on details but comment section is not the place to prove a point.
What if you tell the caliph you don't believe in Allah, and you want to be able to talk publicly about it?
Raymond try saying you don't believe in constitution let's see how that turns out for you most democratic countries
question them how are the evidence for god is not as poor as fairies existed?
@@raymondjensen4603Linduchap Muslim caliphates were run with the advice of the people, you know when you read the Koran and history.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxlaSharia law is for all people rich and poor for all and no one is small or big in Sharia but in democracy the poor have more status than the rich.
Wow - I cannot believe such debates can occur in muslim cities like London and Paris
1.5/5
They have banned women's voice .. can you believe? In Afghanistan 😒
@@aasthadwivedi6792 you live under a rock
This Indian speaker's talk is nauseatingly conformist beyond words. Before addressing Islam, he should confront the Indian caste system-a social structure rooted in slavery. This oppressive system, which idealizes societal stratification based on servitude, continues to operate in India to this day. Additionally, he should work on his prosody, as his delivery leaves much to be desired.
He's here at a debate about Islam, not about Hinduism. If there's a debate about Hinduism, that would be the appropriate venue to bring up casteism.
When Islam is being critiqued (and lord knows, there's a TON that's wrong with Islam and Muslims today, in 2024), it's a weak argument to say, "But, but but....someone else is doing something else". That's called whataboutery, which is the only thing Muslims seem to be abled to do when they're made to stand in front of a mirror and reflect on their actions.
@@disdoncable Didn't we all know all of what you said before you said it? The terms contradict themselves. A son of a culture and society of the "castes" comes to the spotlight and talks about the incompatibility of Islam with democracy or rather "Demo-crazy", whereas the caste slavery based system is incorporated into "Indian" "democracy" What a scandalous charade.
@@saad83790 Caste system doesn't exist. Caste is a Portuguese word, the Indian scriptures talk about Varna System. This is a system that identifies the current status of ones consciousness. Every individual subconsciously holds their awareness at specific chakras, and based on where their default awareness lies, they are suited for specific tasks within society. This identification is done by a Guru, the individual being tested will go through a series of mental and physical tests to determine where their awareness lies. This was done in Gurukuls in India, but the British banned all Gurukuls. Leading to ignorance. And it didn't help that the British believed in the Aryan invasion theory, so they assumed that the caste was a factor that determined who belonged to the Aryan race. And they were known to marry Brahmin women prior to colonization of India. They would give out prominent jobs to upper classes while the lower classes were sent into labor. This further divided the Indian population, cementing the current social caste system. And Varna system didn't forbid individuals from changing class. Most of the yogic techniques are there to help individuals raise their awareness to higher chakras. Only if the Guru saw potential, otherwise they were told to go back and serve their parents and learn their skills and trade.
@@saad83790 Funny thing too, the English word Curriculum comes from the Sanskrit word Gurukulam.
@@saad83790 You know you are being stupid, right?
With all due respect, this gentleman has the full right to be critical of Islam but superficial statements define nothing. The way he criticized islam on the basis of what some countries did and ironically having democracy as the frame of reference.
Democracy as an idea could be good but deeds of democratic countries in destroying those countries who seek sovereignty from their interests and oppose their political ideology wheather it is Vietnam, libya or the total destruction of middle East.
That's why this criteria of nullification is absurd.
Instead of framing a reference we should consider core islamic principles and then do criticism.
@@FidaHussain-v1e8o just tell me one thing, are you willing to 100% comply with sharia laws ?
@tuyethoang7062... Depends on what you mean by Sharia law.
@@FidaHussain-v1e8o the exact Sharia law, the orginal law defined, not manipulated, no secondary meaning of words no nothing. Exactly how it was meant to be by your god.
@@FidaHussain-v1e8o well, the definition doesn't change from people to people, I'm referring the exact text what's written, and believe me, that seems to be bizzare and unbelievable how could one comply to these rules, non of your countries do it, at some instance of time, their break it, and its not their fault, complying to it is inhumane and impossible!
@tuyethoang7062 with all due respect, i am asking for the same thing from you. Just tell me what do you mean by Sharia law because there are a lot of versions to it.
In Malaysia islam is quietly radical...So no one notices...