As a 2020 Lance 2375 owner, full time RVer for the past 3 years, we think Lance is the best all weather travel trailer on the market. Thanks for finally reviewing one.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Today is October 29 2022 and at Rocky Mountain National Park Colorado with night time temperatures down to 22°F. The only travel trailer in the RV Park is a Lance!
Being a West Coaster and a Lance fan I thought to add a couple of thoughts. Lance has been using Azdel since 2010. For those that don't like the bendy bed and radius shower, check out the model 1985. It is about the same length as the 1995 but has a permanent walk around queen bed and a rear bathroom with a rectangular shower.
I think both the 1985 and 95 have the bendy bed as options and most dealers order there stock models with them but you can order without. At least that’s how it was in the past few model years. There are some things I like better in the 1985 better in addition what is mentioned above. It has a larger TV in a location I like better. I am disappointed that Lance went away from the Dexter torsion axles that they used in prior years. Hopefully that is just a temporary supply chain thing.
Love the variety of RV's, the weird jokes, the honest feedback, the invaluable information, and I absolutely tune in for the crazy maniacal laughing at own jokes moments.
Josh, thank you for always showing the trailer with slide in...road mode. It's such an important feature to know if you have access while driving or cannot use the slide for some reason while camping.
Very nice. As an older bachelor I find it could cover my needs quite well. A couple of solar panels and a generator and I'm in my comfort zone. Thanks for showing.
I have a 2021 Lance 1995 and like it. The quality in the build is noticeable. The 3 plastic slide drawers work G-R-R-R-R-E-A-T for storing silverware and other cooking utensils. Great overview Josh !
We upgraded from a Rockwood and waited 9 months for our 2022 1995. We LOVE it. We selected the non-Murphy bed version which provides much welcome under-bed storage, and the batteries are accessible from outside the trailer. A couple of corrections. The three propane tanks are all the same size. The forward tank is on a lower shelf. The gray and black water dump valves are next to each other near the dump pipe (which we agree hangs too low). The forward valve is the fresh water dump, which is really great to have.
I have a 2018 Lance 1995 and it's the best camper I have ever owned or used on a regular basis. Extremely well made and handles all the off road and remote camping I do. BTW that white handle you showed and said it was a grey water release is actually a release to empty the fresh water tank.
My husband and I have a Lance 1995 (2015 model year). In response to your question about the kitchen plastic drawers - we love them. They are extremely useful and are holding up well.
As a 2016 Lance 1685 owner, they are worth it. Bought ours used for under 20k. We stayed in 10 degree weather days in a row. Only had to add a towel to the access panel for the shower faucets to keep them from freezing, I blame the wind. Everything else was warm and cozy.
Our 1995 doesn't have a murphy bed. The pull out tray kitchen drawers are easily removed to take cutlery outside which is handy. Most owners Ive seen do mod the broom closet with shelves too.
Thank You again for taking your shoes off when lying down on the bed. The other guy Matt doesn't take his shoes off. Another person said the same thing about him. Great video. Happy Father's Day.
Your reviews are still the best in the industry because you point out the good as well as the bad while giving RVer's something to think about when making expensive decisions. Also, I appreciate your humor especially since you do work by yourself and really are talking to yourself lol. You're REAL and that's what I want to see & hear personally when I'm making a very expensive purchase!! Well done as always JW!!👍
Not only is the interior construction different, so is the interior. Lance uses 1/2" plywood for interior walls that have Azdel too. So the walls are solid inside and out. Three other big things I like about Lance 1) they use screws to construct just about everything instead of staples like so many other brands use 2) they provide access panels to plumbing and electrical 3) they use a wire harness that is cleanly routed and they will provide you with a wiring schematic... I found a yellow wire that was not connected and when I asked about it I found out that it was pre-wired for reverse lights!
I have taken many a nap on the folded bed in my Apex Nano 208BHS. It’s comfy and the view is nice. You know who else loves the folded bed? My dogs. They would lay there all day if we let them.
As a current 2018 1685 Lance Owner, I am glad you got the chance to go through a Lance. At the time I purchased mine, I wanted a small trailer that was small enough to get into state park campgrounds and still be reasonably well built and nice. I also wanted a gas stove with an oven and a larger fridge. The galley is large enough to cook a meal of reasonable complexity. I think the idea of those plastic galley drawers is you're supposed to be able to take them outside while grilling. I have yet to do that...............they work OK, but you have to open the door in front of them before you can slide them out each time. And yes, I too wish they would have installed flexible shelving in that tall closet in the rear. A lot of Lance owners build their own shelves in that closet. The insulation is great and I have used my trailer in temperatures down to the 20s and it stayed toasty warm. The 6 gallon water heater works fine for me and I have yet to run it out of hot water. If I were to buy a new unit, I would be happy with the 6 gallon tank water heater, but that's just me. When I bought my trailer, my sewage outlet was too low as well, which is why I added a axle lift kit that Lance offered at the time. It added just under three inches to the trailer height which helped a lot with the sewage height. I suspect that sewage pull handle in front of the tires is actually the fresh water tank drain..........at least that is what it is on my unit. The 2022 Lance model year had a lot of changes from previous years. A new frame, ducted AC and the euro windows are just a few of the changes. It will be interesting to see how these units develop going forward. Cheers!
I'm famous! I have the used Lance you referred to in the video, that's as close as I'll probably get lol. I absolutely LOVE it!!! Sense getting it the only camper that's made me think about trading is a Ember. I love the pull out drawers also, take plates and silverware out to the picnic table and bring it all back in, super easy clean up! plus I had water issues, my fault, I forgot to winterize the outside faucet but I discovered all the walls screw out and go back in nice and easy, no working on stuff through a 4x6 hole. It was a awesome discovery, and little round caps that just snap back on to cover the screws, like nothing happened.
We have a 2022 1995. The batteries under the bed and a couple of other items were short lived - all units other than a few early builds have the batteries in outside compartments. Also, the little cubbyholes next to the bed are open shelves. I agree the plastic trays in the kitchen seem a little cheap and out of character, but I think I have more storage vs. drawers, plus I can just grab the silverware tray and take it to our dining location. This is our first rig and so far it has been rock solid and we’re very happy with it
TY for this info! Appreciate it greatly I think moving the batteries is a good call It's almost like they were going to standardize lithium them just.. didn't .. or something
NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT! Clean, modern - almost timeless looks as opposed to the stodgy and clunky standard type cabinetry doors on most other rigs: rigs you can only tell the age of at a glance by checking out the upholstery on the couches!
Happy Father's Day, Josh! The drawers in the kitchen, have a greater purpose. You can remove them & take silverware, plates, etc. outside, to the picnic table & if there is a big spill in them, they can easily be removed & easily washed with soap & water. It can help to keep bugs & rode ts away.😊❤️😊❤️😊❤️
I have a 2021 Lance 1995 that I live in full time. I opted for the bed without the sofa which gives better storage and the ability to change out the mattress which I did with a memory foam mattress. I really like the plastic drawers. You can pull them out and wash them in the nice large kitchen sink. They’re also pretty heavily built and if there’s a problem you can just order one and replace it. I use divider bins from Bed Bath and Beyond to organize the drawers. The Smart Jack doesn’t always work and the switch panel will deteriorate in the sun which mine did. You need to keep it covered when not in use. LCI sent me a new jack without question. The three propane tanks are all 20# tanks. I like the gas electric water heater. When on shore power you don’t have to use propane. My biggest issue is the schwintek slide coming out of time and of course it was out of warranty. It was an $850 repair. Every tech I’ve talked to agree that the Schwintek slide is not well built and the probability of problems and repair are high. My trailer is going to Tucson to have the Vroom slide system installed. Tiffin is now using this system for repair on their motor homes. It is far superior in construction to the Schwintek. Lance is built in Lancaster California. I was just there.
The plastic kitchen drawers have worked great in both Lances we have owned. We use it for the silverware and long handled kitchen implements, and in the bottom one I can fit foil, plastic wrap and ziploc bags!
Late to the party here. I am an 1995 owner. The plastic pull out bins are fairly easy to get used to. You can also grab the silverware drawer and take it out to the picnic table. I added more shelves to the big closet just as you mentioned. It's wonderful. The white handle up front is not for the grey tank, it is a freshwater tank drain pull for winterization. The black and grey handles are back by the drain pipe. It's a great trailer and we love it.
I love Lance quality, and I like the euro style cabinets, they look nice and appear to be quite well built. I absolutely LOVE the euro windows with the built in screens/shades!! And that door is awesome! I like that the Murphy bed doesn’t block the window. Neat armrests, and the little storage cubbies by the bed. I like the tankless water heater, definitely. Overall a really nice couples trailer, really nice. And yeah, love the corny dad jokes, keep ‘em coming. 👍
I think more RV manufacturers should adopt some of the Euro styling. The recessed wheel arches look great. I cannot understand why they are not more mainstream. The benefits for stability, fuel efficiency and step height into trailer are more than offset by the loss of storage.
I love the Lance quality and style. Also think the pullout drawers are great. They can be removed to find things easier and to use outside if needed. Thanks for the video.
Josh, you mentioned several times how wonderful those windows are and I agree, they probably are. But, it would have been nice if you had demonstrated how far they open and let us know the R rating of the plexiglass (?). Also, can you let the viewers know the brand names of the kitchen appliances? Otherwise, as usual, that was a very educational and entertaining video! Thanks
Very nice description overall, and I appreciate the humorous edge. I'd like to see a bit more description on the axles: material and service requirements and TRUE tongue weight. I've heard that three full tanks on the tongue hitch really begin to limit load capacity...
loaded tongue weight is something that can only be known once the rv is loaded the way you want to camp. Everyone does it differently. It's always smart to estimate high there for safety. I have videos sharing how to estimate loaded hitch weight with pretty fair accuracy
Lance makes a very good product . Way back they were known for their excellent slide in campers for pickups. Expensive; but well built. We looked at this one a couple of years back. They make a great deal of sense & use of space. We found for us, as is typical with most factory provided mattress; they can be back breakers. Upgrading the mattress can be difficult, finding one that still folds.But if it may still works for you.
Josh did you know the Lance is going to be built at Fleetwood in Decatur, Indiana? It's 100 percent true! My brother works there, it was officially announced a while back this year!
A little visit from Mr. Haney while you were on the roof... nice! That's a nice unit, although I'd keep the bed out all the time and put a better mattress on it. I've liked Lance for a long time, their truck campers are great 👍
Josh, totally agree with you about the lights being on that switch. It’s a few dollars in wire…. Love a lot of things about the lance, looked at them a few years ago but were out of the price range. Love the picnic table storage, slider, and external storage compartment on the driver side. It’s a great use of dead space. Also like the toy lock! Not to forget that underbelly looks tough! Not much left to add to this thing from the factory! Maybe a 12v fridge option?
It surprises me how many western builds do not offer a 12v fridge. I know 2-ways are popular for boondocking but to not offer a 12v at all surprises me
@@JoshtheRVNerd and I must say… I was just watching another RV video walk through from someone else on UA-cam, and you can REALLY tell your quality from the rear. From everything to the detail, the lighting, explanation, truthfulness, and the extra commentary. Truly the best rv walkthroughs on UA-cam. Keep it up!
@@patrickyoung5348 the flat roof has not been an issue in the near three years I have owned my 2465. In fact, they flat roof is solid (literally) and insulates quite well.
It has alot of the features that our 30' 2007 Holiday/Rambler Alumlite has in it. Like storage tubs for drawers. The slide out storage in the pass through under the bed. It is very well build with what I say class A thought.
Welcome to the Pacific Northwest! Bought our 2018 Whitehawk there in Junction City. Lance indeed makes a nice unit a friend of mine has one! He loves it but I wouldn’t trade him. As always well done and thanks for the insanity.
Like this a lot, would love to see a 2465, full on couples camper, seems like the quality of an Airstream but with the slides. Quality seems top notch.
Being from southern California where Lance started as did so many great brands. I've always been aware of Lance and its a favorite of mine. Lance exudes quality as your video points out. You pay for that quality though as you alluded to. Even still this model or possibly one of their others models is definitely on my radar in hopefully not the too distant future.
It's really been my pleasure. I enjoy what i do but man I was getting tired of seeing the same stuff all the time year after year and imagined others felt the same
Like Vaughn said in Swingers…”your so money you don’t even know”. Good stuff Joshie boy. That’s my first view of a LanceRV. When we think of Lance here in the Bay Area it usually meant thecabover camper pops had. This is pretty cool. I’m Stuck on getting a Rockwood/Flagstaff 2109? like you mentioned.
Really enjoyed this review. I think other manufacturers need to start incorporating features and construction techniques used by Lance. I've already had to shake my head a few times at things I've seen on my new trailer as far as quality is concerned. Your comment about the underbelly access really hit home for me. The dealership that I purchased my Freedom Express from used the razor blade approach to access the underbelly when they installed my solar package, and now I have a large piece of underbelly that won't stay closed. The tape just doesn't hold it up. I need to figure out how to fix it before some critters (or rodents) figure out it's there and decide to make a nice warm home for the winter.
This is a great TT with a lot of function in a shorter unit. I saw a 2020 Lance 1985 on Travels with Delaney. They purchased the Lance and I believe it is the equivalent floorplan with the Murphy bed and the large, step-up dinette. The bathroom layout in their 1985 I believe is different. I appreciate the variety of campers you bring now that you are part of Bish's. I like seeing more Class B/C.
Josh- you're too funny!! You are so knowledgeable and obviously love what you do!! Plus we are both redheads!! :) All these windows are nice, like an Airstream, but not aluminum! The bending beds are growing on me- I like that you aren't losing a window and you're not losing storage capacity!
There is another advantage to the bendy murphy bed lance uses. You retain the front windshield in living room mode. Imo that is a big advantage. Edit: I like the battery placement. It's not great for flooded batteries but it's great for lithium and agm.
It is a nice RV. I’m not sure about the front window. How dark can you make it? I don’t like the shower but it is not a deal breaker. Not crazy about the steps. Love the enclosed/heated under belly. I would love to see this in person.
Loved thr review. For the longest time, I wanted this model. Between cost and lack of availability I gave up on it, not that it isn't an amazing trailer. But when I was getting a slide topper on my Flagstaff, I wandered the lot. They had a similar Lance and the dinette felt claustrophobic. I didn't know how much the size of the slide-out mattered. This has a ton of amazing features (still trying to talk my wife into a DIY cubby in storage by the head of the bed) and I'm going to show this video as an example.
One of Lances selling points of the plastic kitchen drawers is that they are easily removable and you can take them outside with all your utensils for meals. Personally I would rather have deeper standard drawers.
I won't waste your time or mine 'reviewing' this camper. It's a Lance. Even things I might not like are overshadowed by the sheer quality (build and materials). These are expensive, but are worth every penny. For every con there are 10 pros.
Thanks for showing this Lance. Looked at one a like this some time ago. Well built and love the stargazer window and those snap on skylight covers. And yes, The Pacific Northwest is definitely not the West Coast! Ha ha ha Happy Father's Day, Josh!
Wilsoooooon...Thanks Josh, I needed a smile and laugh tonight, and you didn't disappoint. Glad to see they've updated their browny brown colors. Kudos to Lance for getting not everyone wants a cabin feel. ORV keeps ignoring that fact.
Had that model made in 2018. Loved it & would buy another if I had viable storage for it. The kitchen plastic drawers worked fine for us, plus we could remove the bottom drawer and put some tall stuff down there. Also, most Lance owners modify those two storage closet/cabinets to fit their needs. We put a 3 tier wire rack in the tall closet & still had room to hang longish coats and fit the broom and minivac along with a ton of shoes. We put shelves in the short cabinet for pantry items. With the extended shower rod we found the radial shower fit us fine (and I am not a small person in any dimension). If you’d sat in the dining slide and stuck your feet up with your back to the window you’d find another great spot to relax on a rainy day. We would swap out the regular table for a small “cocktail”table for a little more elbow room. We won each fit 6 people at the regular table in that. Dinette slide. It was a big part of why we loved that trailer. We had the lifted model with solar and never found a place we couldn’t get into or out of. It may not look like a boondocker.,but the can sure handle the job. And loved the large tank sizes.
Great lookin Lance Travel Trailer 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I would most likely prefer a Tankless water heater and Josh I agree with you that sewer outlet hangs a bit too low, Great observation! 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Really like seeing the varieties of RV's. Lance makes a great RV would love to see other floorplans. Not a fan of Murphy beds or the high step up of the dinette.But I know there well built. Never stop the throwed in jokes love it 😀
First time seeing a Lance TT. The kitchen cabinetry resembles Airstreams. I think that you done great for a Lance first timer. In the bedroom what we like as you mentioned is space around the bed. Josh Happy Father’s Day, hope you get treated like a King. Josh keep’m coming humor & all. Laughter is good for you & your viewers. God Bless
Hi I went to a park today & put my poop hose on the picnic table & thought of you complaining about it & immediately parked my ass on the bench. We love the joke's keep em coming . Happy father's day pops 🙋💣🚽💥💥
We have been looking at these for a couple of years. Glad to see you have finally been able to review one. We have liked the 1985 and 1995 designs. Not sure about the tankless heaters for us yet. We manage just fine without. Love the videos!
Lance is definitely one of the best brands out there. If you ever see a list of the best quality RVs and it doesn’t include Lance and Airstream, throw the list away and look elsewhere.
I'll watch for them. THIS was the only Lance we even had on hand when I visited and now it looks like we're all sold out of this one. They seem to go out as quickly as they roll in
Though we are looking at their larger models, 2375 & 2285, Lance is currently at the top of our list to replace our totaled Micro Mini. We like the Euro styling of cabinets and windows but it is the big little things like putting the microwave behind the cabinet door that put Lance up there in our rankings. You mentioned the battery location under the bed which I don't like either. The larger models put the battery trays on the outside utilizing the dead space you get between the wardrobes and front wall curve (one battery on each side). I like the lockable compartments over the traditional location on the tongue. I'm not sure why they didn't do that on this model. The compartment on the park side of the trailer is for hauling a generator. The venting is to allow gas fumes to escape and not building up inside.
Totaled?! I hope it was mother nature while you were away and everyone was safe at least! The newer versions of this moved the battery location to the outside of the RV btw. I guess I caught an "in betweener" that was built when they tried the sofa-battery thing
@@JoshtheRVNerd We are all ok thanks. The accident occurred while driving round the south end of Chicago. An uninsured driver lost control of their car in the rain and spun across two lanes to hit our truck and trailer on the passenger side. The trailer tracked perfectly which I attribute to the heavy duty Equal-i-zer hitch. Overall the trailer damage wasn't that bad but because the fiberglass can't be repaired reliably and the fix was replacing walls it was declared a total. We are also looking at Winnebago Minnie trailers and found your video of the 2529RG timely as it is on our potential list along with the 2500FL.
As a 2020 Lance 2375 owner, full time RVer for the past 3 years, we think Lance is the best all weather travel trailer on the market. Thanks for finally reviewing one.
Wow Ty for sharing!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Today is October 29 2022 and at Rocky Mountain National Park Colorado with night time temperatures down to 22°F. The only travel trailer in the RV Park is a Lance!
Lance are great rigs. The tank pull in the front is to drain the fresh water tank. Sidewalls have Azdel outside and inside. The roof is PVC.
Being a West Coaster and a Lance fan I thought to add a couple of thoughts.
Lance has been using Azdel since 2010.
For those that don't like the bendy bed and radius shower, check out the model 1985.
It is about the same length as the 1995 but has a permanent walk around queen bed and a rear bathroom with a rectangular shower.
I was actually on the lookout for a 1985 and they just didn’t have any on hand
I think both the 1985 and 95 have the bendy bed as options and most dealers order there stock models with them but you can order without. At least that’s how it was in the past few model years.
There are some things I like better in the 1985 better in addition what is mentioned above. It has a larger TV in a location I like better.
I am disappointed that Lance went away from the Dexter torsion axles that they used in prior years. Hopefully that is just a temporary supply chain thing.
Love the variety of RV's, the weird jokes, the honest feedback, the invaluable information, and I absolutely tune in for the crazy maniacal laughing at own jokes moments.
Most of the nonsense I spout is just me trying to keep myself entertained
So thanks for tagging along 😊
Happy Father's day Josh! Hope you are enjoying some well deserved time off!
Josh, thank you for always showing the trailer with slide in...road mode. It's such an important feature to know if you have access while driving or cannot use the slide for some reason while camping.
Very nice. As an older bachelor I find it could cover my needs quite well. A couple of solar panels and a generator and I'm in my comfort zone.
Thanks for showing.
Go for it!
I have a 2021 Lance 1995 and like it. The quality in the build is noticeable. The 3 plastic slide drawers work G-R-R-R-R-E-A-T for storing silverware and other cooking utensils. Great overview Josh !
Thanks for sharing
Yep, they work great and can be heavily loaded.
Ok that is top notch RV , Lance did it up right. Love the lighting , love the room, the storage , the tray that slides out , all done well.
Your humor is what makes your videos different than every one else, and I love it! That's why I watch your videos and not the other youtubers
Well TY :)
THIS is what we are looking for! Almost perfect for the two of us. I have always admired Lance
We upgraded from a Rockwood and waited 9 months for our 2022 1995. We LOVE it. We selected the non-Murphy bed version which provides much welcome under-bed storage, and the batteries are accessible from outside the trailer. A couple of corrections. The three propane tanks are all the same size. The forward tank is on a lower shelf. The gray and black water dump valves are next to each other near the dump pipe (which we agree hangs too low). The forward valve is the fresh water dump, which is really great to have.
I've heard they adjusted the batteries to the outside. I wasn't a fan of that location on this video
I appreciate that what we get is your real personality with the humor.
I try!!
I have a 2018 Lance 1995 and it's the best camper I have ever owned or used on a regular basis. Extremely well made and handles all the off road and remote camping I do. BTW that white handle you showed and said it was a grey water release is actually a release to empty the fresh water tank.
Ty for the handle info
I have the 2018 1985. Awesome trailer. Holding up well so far.
My husband and I have a Lance 1995 (2015 model year). In response to your question about the kitchen plastic drawers - we love them. They are extremely useful and are holding up well.
Awesome TY! Feedback from real owners is always the most valuable and trustworthy I think
As a 2016 Lance 1685 owner, they are worth it. Bought ours used for under 20k. We stayed in 10 degree weather days in a row. Only had to add a towel to the access panel for the shower faucets to keep them from freezing, I blame the wind. Everything else was warm and cozy.
I love feedback like this from actual owners. Thank you for taking the time to share.
Our 1995 doesn't have a murphy bed. The pull out tray kitchen drawers are easily removed to take cutlery outside which is handy. Most owners Ive seen do mod the broom closet with shelves too.
Thank You again for taking your shoes off when lying down on the bed. The other guy Matt doesn't take his shoes off. Another person said the same thing about him. Great video. Happy Father's Day.
You know what’s funny? I don’t watch anyone else’s videos. I just do my thing
Your reviews are still the best in the industry because you point out the good as well as the bad while giving RVer's something to think about when making expensive decisions. Also, I appreciate your humor especially since you do work by yourself and really are talking to yourself lol. You're REAL and that's what I want to see & hear personally when I'm making a very expensive purchase!! Well done as always JW!!👍
Man thank you chuck
Not only is the interior construction different, so is the interior. Lance uses 1/2" plywood for interior walls that have Azdel too. So the walls are solid inside and out. Three other big things I like about Lance 1) they use screws to construct just about everything instead of staples like so many other brands use 2) they provide access panels to plumbing and electrical 3) they use a wire harness that is cleanly routed and they will provide you with a wiring schematic... I found a yellow wire that was not connected and when I asked about it I found out that it was pre-wired for reverse lights!
Ah Ty so much for the yellow wire info
Missed opportunity on the Mr. Rogers' shoe toss 😆. Nice to see a Josh eye view of the Lance units!
If only I were even THAT coordinated
I have taken many a nap on the folded bed in my Apex Nano 208BHS. It’s comfy and the view is nice. You know who else loves the folded bed? My dogs. They would lay there all day if we let them.
Well thank you for sharing
Wait.. dogs? What kind of dogs? TELL ME
@@JoshtheRVNerd Golden retriever and Australian Shepard
Hey Josh, that first gray handle under in the front is the fresh water release valve, empties your fresh water. I have it on my Lance 1685. 😃
Good to know!
As a current 2018 1685 Lance Owner, I am glad you got the chance to go through a Lance. At the time I purchased mine, I wanted a small trailer that was small enough to get into state park campgrounds and still be reasonably well built and nice. I also wanted a gas stove with an oven and a larger fridge. The galley is large enough to cook a meal of reasonable complexity. I think the idea of those plastic galley drawers is you're supposed to be able to take them outside while grilling. I have yet to do that...............they work OK, but you have to open the door in front of them before you can slide them out each time. And yes, I too wish they would have installed flexible shelving in that tall closet in the rear. A lot of Lance owners build their own shelves in that closet.
The insulation is great and I have used my trailer in temperatures down to the 20s and it stayed toasty warm. The 6 gallon water heater works fine for me and I have yet to run it out of hot water. If I were to buy a new unit, I would be happy with the 6 gallon tank water heater, but that's just me. When I bought my trailer, my sewage outlet was too low as well, which is why I added a axle lift kit that Lance offered at the time. It added just under three inches to the trailer height which helped a lot with the sewage height. I suspect that sewage pull handle in front of the tires is actually the fresh water tank drain..........at least that is what it is on my unit.
The 2022 Lance model year had a lot of changes from previous years. A new frame, ducted AC and the euro windows are just a few of the changes. It will be interesting to see how these units develop going forward.
Cheers!
Ty for all of this! Great info
I looked at both the 1995 & the 1985 2020 models and bought the 1985 without the Murphy bed ,and love it .
What made the difference for you??
@@JoshtheRVNerd larger bathroom with storage and larger shower .also the way the tv is set up close to the dinette slide.
I'm famous! I have the used Lance you referred to in the video, that's as close as I'll probably get lol. I absolutely LOVE it!!! Sense getting it the only camper that's made me think about trading is a Ember. I love the pull out drawers also, take plates and silverware out to the picnic table and bring it all back in, super easy clean up! plus I had water issues, my fault, I forgot to winterize the outside faucet but I discovered all the walls screw out and go back in nice and easy, no working on stuff through a 4x6 hole. It was a awesome discovery, and little round caps that just snap back on to cover the screws, like nothing happened.
The pull out lever up front is to dump your fresh water grey and black is in back. the slide out drawers under the sink work great.
Ty!!
Josh, I’m know some have made Lance factory tour videos but I’d love to see you do one. You catch things other reviewers seem to miss.
Would like to do that for sure
We have a 2022 1995. The batteries under the bed and a couple of other items were short lived - all units other than a few early builds have the batteries in outside compartments. Also, the little cubbyholes next to the bed are open shelves. I agree the plastic trays in the kitchen seem a little cheap and out of character, but I think I have more storage vs. drawers, plus I can just grab the silverware tray and take it to our dining location. This is our first rig and so far it has been rock solid and we’re very happy with it
TY for this info! Appreciate it greatly
I think moving the batteries is a good call
It's almost like they were going to standardize lithium them just.. didn't .. or something
NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT! Clean, modern - almost timeless looks as opposed to the stodgy and clunky standard type cabinetry doors on most other rigs: rigs you can only tell the age of at a glance by checking out the upholstery on the couches!
Thanks you. When will trailer manufacturers move away from interiors that look like my grandma’s house from the 80s?
Happy Father's Day, Josh! The drawers in the kitchen, have a greater purpose. You can remove them & take silverware, plates, etc. outside, to the picnic table & if there is a big spill in them, they can easily be removed & easily washed with soap & water. It can help to keep bugs & rode ts away.😊❤️😊❤️😊❤️
It’s actually a pretty classic way about things. Fleetwood used to do that a lot
I have a 2021 Lance 1995 that I live in full time. I opted for the bed without the sofa which gives better storage and the ability to change out the mattress which I did with a memory foam mattress. I really like the plastic drawers. You can pull them out and wash them in the nice large kitchen sink. They’re also pretty heavily built and if there’s a problem you can just order one and replace it. I use divider bins from Bed Bath and Beyond to organize the drawers. The Smart Jack doesn’t always work and the switch panel will deteriorate in the sun which mine did. You need to keep it covered when not in use. LCI sent me a new jack without question. The three propane tanks are all 20# tanks. I like the gas electric water heater. When on shore power you don’t have to use propane. My biggest issue is the schwintek slide coming out of time and of course it was out of warranty. It was an $850 repair. Every tech I’ve talked to agree that the Schwintek slide is not well built and the probability of problems and repair are high. My trailer is going to Tucson to have the Vroom slide system installed. Tiffin is now using this system for repair on their motor homes. It is far superior in construction to the Schwintek. Lance is built in Lancaster California. I was just there.
To me, the slender closet without shelves would be the perfect place for things like a broom, mop, and a trash can!
Makes sense!
I was waiting for the Mr. Rogers music and a sweater to be busted out!!!! LOL
I tried the shoe toss once but it just wasnt working lol :)
The plastic kitchen drawers have worked great in both Lances we have owned. We use it for the silverware and long handled kitchen implements, and in the bottom one I can fit foil, plastic wrap and ziploc bags!
Ty!
Wish it had a din-ofa with no slide vs that humongous dinette. I'd leave the bed down and be a very happy camper!
Late to the party here. I am an 1995 owner. The plastic pull out bins are fairly easy to get used to. You can also grab the silverware drawer and take it out to the picnic table. I added more shelves to the big closet just as you mentioned. It's wonderful. The white handle up front is not for the grey tank, it is a freshwater tank drain pull for winterization. The black and grey handles are back by the drain pipe. It's a great trailer and we love it.
Love this input!! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. It’s greatly appreciated.
love your humor… love e your content… but it’s your perspective and opinions that keep me coming back!!!
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I love Lance quality, and I like the euro style cabinets, they look nice and appear to be quite well built. I absolutely LOVE the euro windows with the built in screens/shades!! And that door is awesome! I like that the Murphy bed doesn’t block the window. Neat armrests, and the little storage cubbies by the bed. I like the tankless water heater, definitely. Overall a really nice couples trailer, really nice.
And yeah, love the corny dad jokes, keep ‘em coming. 👍
I think more RV manufacturers should adopt some of the Euro styling. The recessed wheel arches look great. I cannot understand why they are not more mainstream. The benefits for stability, fuel efficiency and step height into trailer are more than offset by the loss of storage.
Nice camper. Thanks for sharing Josh. Happy Father’s Day my friend👍👍
Nice looking unit. I really do like the pull out drawers! Easy to clean, easy to take into the house and easy to restock for the next trip.
Funny how sometimes a "classic" feature like that really is the best even still
Ive learned a lot from watching your videos, I like being able to help people decide what campers to purchase.
Glad you like them! Ty for sharing, Dane :)
A friend of mine has a Lance 1575. They are amazing! It's nice seeing this one parked next to an Apex.
I love your personality! Great Salesmanship! Keep the videos coming!
Well TY :)
I love the Lance quality and style. Also think the pullout drawers are great. They can be removed to find things easier and to use outside if needed. Thanks for the video.
Thx for watching, Susan! :)
I really like Lance campers, it nice to see that you can give a honest review on them. Keep up the good work!
I try!
Josh, you mentioned several times how wonderful those windows are and I agree, they probably are. But, it would have been nice if you had demonstrated how far they open and let us know the R rating of the plexiglass (?). Also, can you let the viewers know the brand names of the kitchen appliances? Otherwise, as usual, that was a very educational and entertaining video! Thanks
I have never seen an r value listed for those but that’s an interesting thought Ty
One thing I don't like is the corner shower. It is little small for a 6ft 250 lbs man.
I could see that. It's a bit tight for me as well but I could make it work
Very nice description overall, and I appreciate the humorous edge. I'd like to see a bit more description on the axles: material and service requirements and TRUE tongue weight. I've heard that three full tanks on the tongue hitch really begin to limit load capacity...
loaded tongue weight is something that can only be known once the rv is loaded the way you want to camp. Everyone does it differently. It's always smart to estimate high there for safety. I have videos sharing how to estimate loaded hitch weight with pretty fair accuracy
I like seeing any RV - thanx Josh!
The diamond style Micro wave are really nice and get really hot..no need for turn table.
Lance makes a very good product . Way back they were known for their excellent slide in campers for pickups. Expensive; but well built. We looked at this one a couple of years back. They make a great deal of sense & use of space. We found for us, as is typical with most factory provided mattress; they can be back breakers. Upgrading the mattress can be difficult, finding one that still folds.But if it may still works for you.
Ty Herb 😊
Josh did you know the Lance is going to be built at Fleetwood in Decatur, Indiana? It's 100 percent true! My brother works there, it was officially announced a while back this year!
That’s nice!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Your going to have to come down here and tour the Fleetwood factory, Matt's RV Review's has been down here, cough, cough! lol!!
A little visit from Mr. Haney while you were on the roof... nice!
That's a nice unit, although I'd keep the bed out all the time and put a better mattress on it.
I've liked Lance for a long time, their truck campers are great 👍
They do still seem to be the golf standard in truck campers
Josh, 😂 you are hysterical. My wife and I are cracking up laughing at this episode
Thx for watching :)
Josh, totally agree with you about the lights being on that switch. It’s a few dollars in wire…. Love a lot of things about the lance, looked at them a few years ago but were out of the price range. Love the picnic table storage, slider, and external storage compartment on the driver side. It’s a great use of dead space. Also like the toy lock! Not to forget that underbelly looks tough! Not much left to add to this thing from the factory! Maybe a 12v fridge option?
It surprises me how many western builds do not offer a 12v fridge. I know 2-ways are popular for boondocking but to not offer a 12v at all surprises me
@@JoshtheRVNerd and I must say… I was just watching another RV video walk through from someone else on UA-cam, and you can REALLY tell your quality from the rear. From everything to the detail, the lighting, explanation, truthfulness, and the extra commentary. Truly the best rv walkthroughs on UA-cam. Keep it up!
@@AREyouAFRAIDofTHEdark1 ty so much
Love Lances...I do worry about their semi flat roof design. I believe there's also a lifted option for those who go off the grid.
I think the 2" lift kit is now standard.
@@patrickyoung5348 the flat roof has not been an issue in the near three years I have owned my 2465. In fact, they flat roof is solid (literally) and insulates quite well.
It has alot of the features that our 30' 2007 Holiday/Rambler Alumlite has in it. Like storage tubs for drawers. The slide out storage in the pass through under the bed. It is very well build with what I say class A thought.
Welcome to the Pacific Northwest! Bought our 2018 Whitehawk there in Junction City. Lance indeed makes a nice unit a friend of mine has one! He loves it but I wouldn’t trade him. As always well done and thanks for the insanity.
Thanks for the insanity lol
We love your subset of humor ;) And we love the Euro style cabinetry!!!!
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Absolutely the tankless water heater
As always, your videos are so helpful! Thanks for doing these, Josh!
My pleasure Michael! Have a great day
Like this a lot, would love to see a 2465, full on couples camper, seems like the quality of an Airstream but with the slides. Quality seems top notch.
Will watch for one! Ty
Josh maybe you would like the idea of having a live tour! So you get to interact with your viewers :)
I'll be live in Novi, MI at the big show/sale there end of this month
Being from southern California where Lance started as did so many great brands. I've always been aware of Lance and its a favorite of mine. Lance exudes quality as your video points out. You pay for that quality though as you alluded to. Even still this model or possibly one of their others models is definitely on my radar in hopefully not the too distant future.
Thanks for showing alot of different brands and floor plans
It's really been my pleasure. I enjoy what i do but man I was getting tired of seeing the same stuff all the time year after year and imagined others felt the same
Josh, you make great videos and I watch because I know what to expect. keep up the good work and don't change a thing..
😊 ty :)
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 *Happy Father's Day Joshua* !! *REALLY like this Lance* !! *Surprised at the BIG storage in this 1995* !! #JoshTheRVNerdAtBishsRV
Like Vaughn said in Swingers…”your so money you don’t even know”. Good stuff Joshie boy.
That’s my first view of a LanceRV. When we think of Lance here in the Bay Area it usually meant thecabover camper pops had. This is pretty cool. I’m Stuck on getting a Rockwood/Flagstaff 2109? like you mentioned.
Pound for pound I don’t know if anyone beats a Rockwood right now
Really enjoyed this review. I think other manufacturers need to start incorporating features and construction techniques used by Lance. I've already had to shake my head a few times at things I've seen on my new trailer as far as quality is concerned. Your comment about the underbelly access really hit home for me. The dealership that I purchased my Freedom Express from used the razor blade approach to access the underbelly when they installed my solar package, and now I have a large piece of underbelly that won't stay closed. The tape just doesn't hold it up. I need to figure out how to fix it before some critters (or rodents) figure out it's there and decide to make a nice warm home for the winter.
This is a great TT with a lot of function in a shorter unit. I saw a 2020 Lance 1985 on Travels with Delaney. They purchased the Lance and I believe it is the equivalent floorplan with the Murphy bed and the large, step-up dinette. The bathroom layout in their 1985 I believe is different. I appreciate the variety of campers you bring now that you are part of Bish's. I like seeing more Class B/C.
Working on more of that motorized stuff!!
Josh- you're too funny!! You are so knowledgeable and obviously love what you do!! Plus we are both redheads!! :) All these windows are nice, like an Airstream, but not aluminum! The bending beds are growing on me- I like that you aren't losing a window and you're not losing storage capacity!
They do definitely have some nice benefits though I don’t know if they’re my personal preference
There is another advantage to the bendy murphy bed lance uses. You retain the front windshield in living room mode. Imo that is a big advantage.
Edit: I like the battery placement. It's not great for flooded batteries but it's great for lithium and agm.
It is a nice RV. I’m not sure about the front window. How dark can you make it? I don’t like the shower but it is not a deal breaker. Not crazy about the steps. Love the enclosed/heated under belly. I would love to see this in person.
Loved thr review. For the longest time, I wanted this model. Between cost and lack of availability I gave up on it, not that it isn't an amazing trailer. But when I was getting a slide topper on my Flagstaff, I wandered the lot. They had a similar Lance and the dinette felt claustrophobic. I didn't know how much the size of the slide-out mattered. This has a ton of amazing features (still trying to talk my wife into a DIY cubby in storage by the head of the bed) and I'm going to show this video as an example.
Rockwood/Flagstaff is pound for pound such a strong brand. They bring a lot of features for the dollars
You’re talking to no one? All these years I thought you were talking directly to me 😝
What if I was but I didn't want everyone to feel left out? It's not easy balancing it all like this :)
Really cool little camper. I prefer rustic over "modern" or whatever they call it, but it is still a nice camper. Ty Josh. Enjoy your day off. :)
Appreciate the wide variety of brands and floorplans you show!
Thx Terry!! More to come
I'm not overly fond of the color of the cabinets/decor and not particularly fine if the super shiny cabinets. Love the stove...
TY Lisa
Of all the sister Bish RV locations you film at, you seem to enjoy Oregon’s the most. 👍
It’s also been some of the best weather I have been able to enjoy on the road
Lol, Oregon weather is usually terrible😂
I’d love to see more from this brand.
One of Lances selling points of the plastic kitchen drawers is that they are easily removable and you can take them outside with all your utensils for meals. Personally I would rather have deeper standard drawers.
It’s funny because that’s a REALLY old school travel trailer thing that almost no one else does now
I had those drawer/bin things in an older Jayco 23b. They were functional but they didn't stay in place during travel. The best I will give it is "OK"
Ty for that
I won't waste your time or mine 'reviewing' this camper. It's a Lance. Even things I might not like are overshadowed by the sheer quality (build and materials). These are expensive, but are worth every penny. For every con there are 10 pros.
You’re not wrong
It’s a fine machine for sure
Thanks for showing this Lance. Looked at one a like this some time ago. Well built and love the stargazer window and those snap on skylight covers. And yes, The Pacific Northwest is definitely not the West Coast! Ha ha ha Happy Father's Day, Josh!
Wilsoooooon...Thanks Josh, I needed a smile and laugh tonight, and you didn't disappoint. Glad to see they've updated their browny brown colors. Kudos to Lance for getting not everyone wants a cabin feel. ORV keeps ignoring that fact.
My pleasure, Barbara!
Had that model made in 2018. Loved it & would buy another if I had viable storage for it. The kitchen plastic drawers worked fine for us, plus we could remove the bottom drawer and put some tall stuff down there. Also, most Lance owners modify those two storage closet/cabinets to fit their needs. We put a 3 tier wire rack in the tall closet & still had room to hang longish coats and fit the broom and minivac along with a ton of shoes. We put shelves in the short cabinet for pantry items. With the extended shower rod we found the radial shower fit us fine (and I am not a small person in any dimension). If you’d sat in the dining slide and stuck your feet up with your back to the window you’d find another great spot to relax on a rainy day. We would swap out the regular table for a small “cocktail”table for a little more elbow room. We won each fit 6 people at the regular table in that. Dinette slide. It was a big part of why we loved that trailer. We had the lifted model with solar and never found a place we couldn’t get into or out of. It may not look like a boondocker.,but the can sure handle the job. And loved the large tank sizes.
Wow this is awesome
Great lookin Lance Travel Trailer 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I would most likely prefer a Tankless water heater and Josh I agree with you that sewer outlet hangs a bit too low, Great observation! 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video, always entertaining. Has a lot of great features. You forgot to look at the slide storage, was about the size.
crap! TY
I'm 30 seconds into the video 📹 and more excited than a fat kid with cake 🎂
Dude I am RIGHT HERE
Like the variety of reviews you do. Keep up the good work and Happy Fathers Day.
My pleasure! I like the variety too. It’s been fun learning new stuff
Really like seeing the varieties of RV's. Lance makes a great RV would love to see other floorplans. Not a fan of Murphy beds or the high step up of the dinette.But I know there well built. Never stop the throwed in jokes love it 😀
Glad you like the corny jokes. They're.. .all I got really lol :)
Check out the Lance 2075. Full time queen bed with no slide and only a foot longer. That’s probably my favorite Lance
First time seeing a Lance TT. The kitchen cabinetry resembles Airstreams. I think that you done great for a Lance first timer. In the bedroom what we like as you mentioned is space around the bed. Josh Happy Father’s Day, hope you get treated like a King. Josh keep’m coming humor & all. Laughter is good for you & your viewers. God Bless
Ty James
Hi I went to a park today & put my poop hose on the picnic table & thought of you complaining about it & immediately parked my ass on the bench. We love the joke's keep em coming . Happy father's day pops 🙋💣🚽💥💥
Great camper! Love the interior design and those great big windows!
We have been looking at these for a couple of years. Glad to see you have finally been able to review one. We have liked the 1985 and 1995 designs. Not sure about the tankless heaters for us yet. We manage just fine without. Love the videos!
I like the idea of tankless but don’t have enough personal experience using them
Lance is definitely one of the best brands out there. If you ever see a list of the best quality RVs and it doesn’t include Lance and Airstream, throw the list away and look elsewhere.
😆 fair enough :)
Northwood as well
I love love looovvvvveeeeeee a Lance trailer. Thanks for the (as always) thorough review.
Finally! Lance is an Astro Top 5 brand. Please do the 2075 and 2445 when you have the chance.
I'll watch for them. THIS was the only Lance we even had on hand when I visited and now it looks like we're all sold out of this one. They seem to go out as quickly as they roll in
Though we are looking at their larger models, 2375 & 2285, Lance is currently at the top of our list to replace our totaled Micro Mini. We like the Euro styling of cabinets and windows but it is the big little things like putting the microwave behind the cabinet door that put Lance up there in our rankings.
You mentioned the battery location under the bed which I don't like either. The larger models put the battery trays on the outside utilizing the dead space you get between the wardrobes and front wall curve (one battery on each side). I like the lockable compartments over the traditional location on the tongue. I'm not sure why they didn't do that on this model.
The compartment on the park side of the trailer is for hauling a generator. The venting is to allow gas fumes to escape and not building up inside.
Totaled?! I hope it was mother nature while you were away and everyone was safe at least!
The newer versions of this moved the battery location to the outside of the RV btw. I guess I caught an "in betweener" that was built when they tried the sofa-battery thing
@@JoshtheRVNerd We are all ok thanks. The accident occurred while driving round the south end of Chicago. An uninsured driver lost control of their car in the rain and spun across two lanes to hit our truck and trailer on the passenger side. The trailer tracked perfectly which I attribute to the heavy duty Equal-i-zer hitch. Overall the trailer damage wasn't that bad but because the fiberglass can't be repaired reliably and the fix was replacing walls it was declared a total.
We are also looking at Winnebago Minnie trailers and found your video of the 2529RG timely as it is on our potential list along with the 2500FL.