For me, I'm not too broken on this. Sure modders will implement this in, but even as a kid I used to watch a ton of mods that made this game look like so much fun. And while I finally get to play the game myself now God Bless, I won't lie that the modders make me jealous every now and then over something cool they added in the game. But I'm honestly glad I get to just play this game with ya'll, Cause playing City Escape Act 2 on my switch in bed has always been my dream of mine, and I've never been happier, and heck I'm glad Sega is even putting out so much content for the game. The extra stuff isn't really for me right now, I'm just glad I can play Sonic Generations
The reason why we can't use the movie skin in the base game probably has to do with the centered mouth causing rigging issues during in-game cutscenes, as modders have recently. confirmed
Since it is technically the game-verse Shadow being sorta isekai'd into movie Shadow's body, I would've more than willingly take the bullet of him being voiced by Kirk rather than keanu in the dlc, if it meant we could still play as the skin in base game. The fact they waited this long to say it'd be locked to the dlc levels is so lame, unless it means that they do plan to eventually update it so that it can be at a later date. And on the note of "modders will fix it", most of the Sonic casual fans are console players. Most of the audience are console players, why does it have to fall to modders to fix the game? It's such a lame argument and just another try to backup a company for whatever reason.
We should’ve at least had the accessories of movie Shadow, as Shadow could’ve upgraded his shoes to have a blue flame to be faster (blue fire is more powerful than normal fire btw)
Also because in Sonic Frontiers, he develops the Powerboost, having the same electrical aura as his movie counterpart Shadow should have the same in at least the next game he’s playable in
That’s a strange way to think about it, yes it means it’s burning hotter, but I mean more heat means the surface is taking more damage too thus possibly causing him to be slower….? lol I am just saying. I mean when rockets take off the blast gallons and gallons of treated water/chemical to keep the ground from melting or catching fire. Sorry, I like the blue flames too I’m just being difficult.
@@Secht_or_7 Yeah, but then again, when’s he’s boosting, he’s not touching the ground so that’s a plus Also it’s a fictional character the blue flame is mainly just an aesthetic purpose
I wanna know why we're just now finding out the skin is locked to the downloadable content It's bit dumb they made a new model just for us not to use it outside of the pack they could at least made the skin playable at a later date like after the movie fully drops or something hell, I'd be okay if we didn't have his voice with it. the level is cool but too short to really enjoy the model the skin is well made shouldn't be locked to a short single stage & two mini challenges plus the whole modders will fix it doesn't apply to people who got it on PlayStation, Switch, or Xbox not everyone has the strong enough pc to run this game. for short, we just want the skin.
Yeah, the marketing for the movie dlc was misleading. Why would anyone think that the skin is locked to one level, based on the prior (and even current) wording? Guess it was also too much to expect the level to have 2 acts though imo the 1 act we did get wasn't great, felt like a completely different team worked on the level design for that one act. Don't know why anyone who doesn't have the deluxe edition would pay 6 dollars + tax for that dlc.
I absolutely agree with him. I think most people expect when they read the way it was written out would think the skin was going to be playable. It’s BS that it isn’t.
@Fuzon-S I didn't know about that. Sega is a lot more forgiving on the legal front and has showed they can listen to the fans in the past so that gives Me hope. I loved the level, the skin, voice & cutscenes, and I was really looking all over for that Shadow skin 😂 I kept completing things I figured might be required/trying for higher ranks and then backing out to the menu to check additional content, restarting the game, checking the collection room, etc. I'm glad I looked it up before I did anything extra to waste My time.
ill wait till the mods make this skin usable for other levels, still feels bad for anyone on a console who might not be able to mod this into other stages
I’m ngl, I was about to play the extra challenges to see if I was gonna unlock the skin for the main game and I’m just now seeing how it’s locked. That’s so… stupid of them imo I regret not doing my research before hand.
Wouldn't be a strong enough case because they did deliver another skin. They never explicitly said it would be playable in the main game. It's slimy but that's how the legal argument would go.
I believe that a lawsuit should be filed against both Paramount and Sega for not adding Movie Shadow as a DLC skin costume for Shadow Generations story mode, if the main DLC was completed, then that would've been unlocked, but those greedy big cats chose to betray all of the Sonic and Shadow fans by stabbing all of us in the back and only have Movie Shadow only in the gameplay itself, now that right there, is pretty low, man!
While I am slightly upset that the movie skin can't be used in the main game, it does make sense why. Shadow gets that form when he travels to the other dimension, so why would he keep it back in his own dimension? Not trying to be that guy, I totally get why some people aren't too happy with the skin being restricted.
Some logics for video games are just meant to not be taken that serious. Most games will always have continuity and consistency in most parts. But stuff like cosmetics is always taken out of proportion for player expression and freedom choices. A lot of people aka the console are upset cause they won't be able to personalized their experience as beating the crap out of Neo Metal Overlord as Movie Shadow, as an example. I mean heck in a game called Astral Chain I can beat countless powerful Demons with a chained mind link legion in a Dog costume and my experience was greatly enhanced by that. I think that's what gets us players to enjoy our favorite games so much when we're able to personalize our experience for it to feel special to us. Sucks Sonic isn't capitalizing on it too much since most skins require unnecessary work to get them and one skin is behind a $10 paywall, but I still have plenty games that do that for me, and I still like this game still for it's other customizations
@@AnotherSonicFanboyThat doesn’t work here, Terios is the first concept of shadow in the same dimension, movie shadow is an entirely different shadow all together, terios still would have been shadow with just a different design and name, movie shadow is a separate embodiment of game shadow so it makes more sense why terios is playable and not movie shadow, like it’s really not as deep as you’re making it out to be, I love the games but god the community whines too much
@@TheBushGaming Terios is basically Sonic while movie Shadow is the exact same character minus facial features and a couple of extra spikes. Sega should've simply paid the developers to reanimate the cutscenes so it could be playable.
@ I wasn’t exactly implying that the comment was more of a “I don’t care, im getting it even after the news with my own judgement” Just exaggerating for the sake of exaggerating
Hope you have fun with it, honestly that sounded petty the way I'm reading it now. I'm fr serious, I really hope you have a good time, it''ll really push the fun and excitement for the movie
I should really stop buying Sonic games on console if they’re gonna keep cheaping out on us like this. I wish I could mod in things that should be in their base games by default.
I hope you can one day, I'm good with the console version. But I really hope you'll achieve that one day, as modding for these games look like so much fun when seen in action and I know there are a ton not just for this game, but for multiple Sonic games you can try when you get the chance
Yea no it was incredibly obvious. I didnt expect it to be more than 1 or 2 stages (and we technically got 3 so thats a plus) and i certainly wasnt expecting keanu to voice over an entire game (Or the skin to work at all with the centered mouth and everything)
As someone who got into modding the game, one of the reasons Movie Shadow couldn't be a skin was obvious to me, with the lankier legs, the eyes, and the mouth, it was obvious this shadow does not use the same rig/skeleton normal Shadow uses, and considering how much animations shadow has, for me it was a dead given Movie Shadow would not be a skin
I don't think it was because of licensing there's a reason why movie shadow not playable in any stages because if they added movie shadow as a skin they need to make a animation every single stage that has doom sequences it takes so much time to do you know yeah modders can do it but it takes time too
I have a feeling that the reason for the skin restriction was to keep in continuity more then anything.As dumb as that sounds it was a personal last minute choice from sega
If they just plainly advertise a skin, its expected to be a skin you can change whenever you're using said character, if it was exclusive to the movie level they shouldnt have mentioned the skin lol Its worse when they call the dlc a "movie pack" which to me implies that it includes multiple stuff, even if its just 2 things, yknow, like a level AND skin? Horrible advertizing
@AnotherSonicFanboy Yeah, I just like mods, but I like pc because I have access to more games, and I have a drawling tablet, so I might as well get a pc for it
I think that this is something that should be specifically stated by the developers in advance. Just saying. And this should not be defended because they didn't bother to make every character you save in Sonic's timeline a playable one. If you're going to disable mods for us at least give us official skins for all the characters we've saved. They literally redubbed the game, this easily could have been done. And it would allow console players to enjoy some other characters but I guess this was too much for them to think of?
I had a hunch the movie skin was going to be exclusive for the movie level lol Tbh I don't like the movie skin , I'm more upset that we only get 1 act.
The only reason one act didn't bother me is because it was advertised as one level so I assumed one act, BUT it's also valid to argue that the bonus level should have two acts.
@@AnotherSonicFanboy I assumed there was going to be 2 acts because sonic levels typically have 2 acts. I really wish there was a extra level because the dlc was short.
"Should have been expected to be restricted", is our imagination really that restricted? are video games really not allowed to expand more to be more than the some of their parts. Honestly it's sad that it ain't playable in the main game, plus they had it in their pre release description for the OST in the pack and someone assumed that this time it won't be like Frontiers and Superstars where they had a mini soundtrack, and came to find out the deluxe pack had a mini too, but because it wasn't stated clearly like the last two games the person felt like they should have known better to trust. Kind of weird for Sega to leave out something so crucial that was clearly stated before, not a good look. I've learned you have to take everything with a grain of salt from Sega and to be careful and do research, lots of research, after day one 1 research, because me personally I don't trust Sega or Sonic Team to continue this continually consistency of quality over quantity. Heck it took me till Black Friday to finally get Sonic X Shadow cause I didn't trust it'll be good. I needed UA-camrs like Radical Soda to say it's good, and man this game is good
It was not advertised as a skin and level, it was advertised as a pack, packs are usually tied to a specific areas (fnaf hw) is an example of that, i dont play many games but im pretty sure its relatively the same, you're just taking this out your butt cause ur mad about it not being how YOU wanted it to be.
If you want to lie for a corporation, that's on you. The video uses only official advertising as evidence. Edit to add: if you want to go with "it's a pack so it's not expected to be in the main game" route, Sonic Superstars had a Lego pack that was alternate skins usable in the game. While mentioning Lego, their games also have DLC like the Man of Steel pack from Lego Batman 3 where you can use all those characters in the main game. The only time I can think of Sega locking a skin to a DLC level was the Zelda stage in Lost World, a game that had no alternate costumes in the main game.
So are you gonna ruin your whole experience because one thing was out of place? 😐 Life's too short for that. And tomorrow this game and everything I own can be gone with my last breath. I'm disappointed, but this has been an amazing year for Shadow fans. Rather look forward to the movie. 😕
@AnotherSonicFanboy ты говорил, что облик из фильма, можно будет использовать и в основной игре. DLC вышло, и этот облик нельзя использовать в основной игре.
@@hard_play73 I didn't say that. I said that the movie DLC skin should be playable in the main game and that I disagree with Sega's decision to not make it playable.
“Modders will fix it”
Console players: *”we will have our revenge”*
For me, I'm not too broken on this. Sure modders will implement this in, but even as a kid I used to watch a ton of mods that made this game look like so much fun. And while I finally get to play the game myself now God Bless, I won't lie that the modders make me jealous every now and then over something cool they added in the game. But I'm honestly glad I get to just play this game with ya'll, Cause playing City Escape Act 2 on my switch in bed has always been my dream of mine, and I've never been happier, and heck I'm glad Sega is even putting out so much content for the game. The extra stuff isn't really for me right now, I'm just glad I can play Sonic Generations
Hedgemodmanager already has a code for using the Movie Shadow outside of the Tokyo level but it's still experimental
The reason why we can't use the movie skin in the base game probably has to do with the centered mouth causing rigging issues during in-game cutscenes, as modders have recently. confirmed
Since it is technically the game-verse Shadow being sorta isekai'd into movie Shadow's body, I would've more than willingly take the bullet of him being voiced by Kirk rather than keanu in the dlc, if it meant we could still play as the skin in base game.
The fact they waited this long to say it'd be locked to the dlc levels is so lame, unless it means that they do plan to eventually update it so that it can be at a later date.
And on the note of "modders will fix it", most of the Sonic casual fans are console players. Most of the audience are console players, why does it have to fall to modders to fix the game? It's such a lame argument and just another try to backup a company for whatever reason.
Not only should modders not have to fix a company's issue, like you mentioned, it leaves behind all the console players.
@@AnotherSonicFanboy As a console player, I feel it. But it's whatever
Plus It doesn’t even matter no one will use the movie skin as much as
@@PJRNWY You are underestimating how many People wanted to play the movie skin badly for the rest of the game
Man you kids would love EA and Ubisoft
I bought this and now im starting to think was this worth it?...
We should’ve at least had the accessories of movie Shadow, as Shadow could’ve upgraded his shoes to have a blue flame to be faster (blue fire is more powerful than normal fire btw)
Also because in Sonic Frontiers, he develops the Powerboost, having the same electrical aura as his movie counterpart
Shadow should have the same in at least the next game he’s playable in
That’s a strange way to think about it, yes it means it’s burning hotter, but I mean more heat means the surface is taking more damage too thus possibly causing him to be slower….? lol I am just saying. I mean when rockets take off the blast gallons and gallons of treated water/chemical to keep the ground from melting or catching fire. Sorry, I like the blue flames too I’m just being difficult.
@@Secht_or_7 Yeah, but then again, when’s he’s boosting, he’s not touching the ground so that’s a plus
Also it’s a fictional character the blue flame is mainly just an aesthetic purpose
The blue is actually just straight up energy like how it originally was before it turned to flames
I wanna know
why we're just now finding out the skin is locked to the downloadable content
It's bit dumb they made a new model just for us not to use it outside of the pack
they could at least made the skin playable at a later date like after the movie fully drops or something
hell, I'd be okay if we didn't have his voice with it.
the level is cool but too short to really enjoy the model
the skin is well made shouldn't be locked to a short single stage & two mini challenges
plus the whole modders will fix it doesn't apply to people who got it on PlayStation, Switch, or Xbox
not everyone has the strong enough pc to run this game.
for short, we just want the skin.
Yeah, the marketing for the movie dlc was misleading. Why would anyone think that the skin is locked to one level, based on the prior (and even current) wording? Guess it was also too much to expect the level to have 2 acts though imo the 1 act we did get wasn't great, felt like a completely different team worked on the level design for that one act. Don't know why anyone who doesn't have the deluxe edition would pay 6 dollars + tax for that dlc.
I absolutely agree with him. I think most people expect when they read the way it was written out would think the skin was going to be playable. It’s BS that it isn’t.
I'm sure if we complain enough, it'll be made a skin. Remember how we changed Sonic's look in the very movies this DLC is tied to?
Not to mention the time when Super Sonic in Forces was originally gonna be a separate DLC that we have to pay for.
@Fuzon-S I didn't know about that. Sega is a lot more forgiving on the legal front and has showed they can listen to the fans in the past so that gives Me hope.
I loved the level, the skin, voice & cutscenes, and I was really looking all over for that Shadow skin 😂
I kept completing things I figured might be required/trying for higher ranks and then backing out to the menu to check additional content, restarting the game, checking the collection room, etc. I'm glad I looked it up before I did anything extra to waste My time.
Im kind of pissed about it ngl. I payed for 2 extra skins.
They can just remove kianos voice and replace it with kirk if it's for copyright issues
Or just make keanu's voice exclusive to the level
@AnotherSonicFanboy yea that's what i meant
@@fantastic0990 i agree
ill wait till the mods make this skin usable for other levels, still feels bad for anyone on a console who might not be able to mod this into other stages
Thank you for your condolences, it means a lot to us
Just get a pc
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Screw you.
@BBK11 *_No..._*
Screw. you
@@BBK113 *_No..._*
Screw. Y o u
I got an email from the sega news letter and in big bold text it says "TRY THE NEW SHADOW SKIN VOICED BY KEANU REVES"
I got that email sometime yesterday as well
I’m ngl, I was about to play the extra challenges to see if I was gonna unlock the skin for the main game and I’m just now seeing how it’s locked. That’s so… stupid of them imo
I regret not doing my research before hand.
Yes.
This skin was to ride the hype of Sonic 3 with Reeves as an actor, of course we should have expected little given the price of the latter.
The expectation was a level and a skin.
i think it wouldve been fine had we known in advance
I agree. I still wouldn't like it, but I would've at least known. Hell, Sega of America still hasn't really said anything about it.
Plot twist: Skin is getting resticted only in Japan
Imagine that actually happening
If that happened I'd legitimately make an apology video to Sega.
*Loud incorrect buzzer sound*
@@AnotherSonicFanboy Then give your condolences to Japan cause dang, I forgot other countries have it bad too
Couldnt sega get sued for false advertising now?
Wouldn't be a strong enough case because they did deliver another skin. They never explicitly said it would be playable in the main game.
It's slimy but that's how the legal argument would go.
I believe that a lawsuit should be filed against both Paramount and Sega for not adding Movie Shadow as a DLC skin costume for Shadow Generations story mode, if the main DLC was completed, then that would've been unlocked, but those greedy big cats chose to betray all of the Sonic and Shadow fans by stabbing all of us in the back and only have Movie Shadow only in the gameplay itself, now that right there, is pretty low, man!
A lawsuit for just a skin? Are you genuinely braindead?
I don't think it would be a strong case.
Guys.
We can just mod it into base game.
Only on PC
HAVE YOU NO RESPECT FOR CONSOLE PLAYE-jk
@SuperPlushTelevision your not wrong
I dont :)
...yeah, no, that phrasing pretty clearly implies "level and skin" as a combined thing
Considering the official Japanese Sonic twitter account needed to clarify before the release, I don't think that's accurate.
No? It really doesn't at least to me
While I am slightly upset that the movie skin can't be used in the main game, it does make sense why. Shadow gets that form when he travels to the other dimension, so why would he keep it back in his own dimension? Not trying to be that guy, I totally get why some people aren't too happy with the skin being restricted.
By that logic, why can Shadow look like Terios throughout the main game?
Some logics for video games are just meant to not be taken that serious. Most games will always have continuity and consistency in most parts. But stuff like cosmetics is always taken out of proportion for player expression and freedom choices. A lot of people aka the console are upset cause they won't be able to personalized their experience as beating the crap out of Neo Metal Overlord as Movie Shadow, as an example. I mean heck in a game called Astral Chain I can beat countless powerful Demons with a chained mind link legion in a Dog costume and my experience was greatly enhanced by that. I think that's what gets us players to enjoy our favorite games so much when we're able to personalize our experience for it to feel special to us. Sucks Sonic isn't capitalizing on it too much since most skins require unnecessary work to get them and one skin is behind a $10 paywall, but I still have plenty games that do that for me, and I still like this game still for it's other customizations
@@AnotherSonicFanboyThat doesn’t work here, Terios is the first concept of shadow in the same dimension, movie shadow is an entirely different shadow all together, terios still would have been shadow with just a different design and name, movie shadow is a separate embodiment of game shadow so it makes more sense why terios is playable and not movie shadow, like it’s really not as deep as you’re making it out to be, I love the games but god the community whines too much
@@TheBushGaming Terios is basically Sonic while movie Shadow is the exact same character minus facial features and a couple of extra spikes. Sega should've simply paid the developers to reanimate the cutscenes so it could be playable.
Idrc it’s a 6 dollar dlc I’m still getting it
My goal with these videos was never to encourage people not to buy the DLC.
@ I wasn’t exactly implying that the comment was more of a “I don’t care, im getting it even after the news with my own judgement”
Just exaggerating for the sake of exaggerating
@@Wisp1-o3s fair enough
Hope you have fun with it, honestly that sounded petty the way I'm reading it now. I'm fr serious, I really hope you have a good time, it''ll really push the fun and excitement for the movie
I should really stop buying Sonic games on console if they’re gonna keep cheaping out on us like this. I wish I could mod in things that should be in their base games by default.
If you have a good PC, I can recommend the modding scene. So many talented people making additional content.
I hope you can one day, I'm good with the console version. But I really hope you'll achieve that one day, as modding for these games look like so much fun when seen in action and I know there are a ton not just for this game, but for multiple Sonic games you can try when you get the chance
Yea no it was incredibly obvious. I didnt expect it to be more than 1 or 2 stages (and we technically got 3 so thats a plus) and i certainly wasnt expecting keanu to voice over an entire game
(Or the skin to work at all with the centered mouth and everything)
We got one stage (as advertised) and nobody expected or wanted Keanu to voice the main game.
Only reason i wanted ts skin was cuz of the jump animation on it
As someone who got into modding the game, one of the reasons Movie Shadow couldn't be a skin was obvious to me, with the lankier legs, the eyes, and the mouth, it was obvious this shadow does not use the same rig/skeleton normal Shadow uses, and considering how much animations shadow has, for me it was a dead given Movie Shadow would not be a skin
I don't think it was because of licensing there's a reason why movie shadow not playable in any stages because if they added movie shadow as a skin they need to make a animation every single stage that has doom sequences it takes so much time to do you know yeah modders can do it but it takes time too
Then Sega should give them the time to do it, even if it's patched in later.
I have a feeling that the reason for the skin restriction was to keep in continuity more then anything.As dumb as that sounds it was a personal last minute choice from sega
If they just plainly advertise a skin, its expected to be a skin you can change whenever you're using said character, if it was exclusive to the movie level they shouldnt have mentioned the skin lol
Its worse when they call the dlc a "movie pack" which to me implies that it includes multiple stuff, even if its just 2 things, yknow, like a level AND skin?
Horrible advertizing
I would just play with the mod which lets you
That only solves the issue for PC players
Another reason why i moved to playing on pc
I don't like the DRM Sega puts on their PC games, but I usually don't pay full price for any of their PC games and am starting to like mods.
@AnotherSonicFanboy Yeah, I just like mods, but I like pc because I have access to more games, and I have a drawling tablet, so I might as well get a pc for it
I think that this is something that should be specifically stated by the developers in advance. Just saying. And this should not be defended because they didn't bother to make every character you save in Sonic's timeline a playable one. If you're going to disable mods for us at least give us official skins for all the characters we've saved. They literally redubbed the game, this easily could have been done. And it would allow console players to enjoy some other characters but I guess this was too much for them to think of?
I agree, it should've been disclosed.
I had a hunch the movie skin was going to be exclusive for the movie level lol
Tbh I don't like the movie skin , I'm more upset that we only get 1 act.
The only reason one act didn't bother me is because it was advertised as one level so I assumed one act, BUT it's also valid to argue that the bonus level should have two acts.
@@AnotherSonicFanboy I assumed there was going to be 2 acts because sonic levels typically have 2 acts.
I really wish there was a extra level because the dlc was short.
to me i dont think it matters that much the skjn being playable doesnt really matter tbh
"Should have been expected to be restricted", is our imagination really that restricted? are video games really not allowed to expand more to be more than the some of their parts. Honestly it's sad that it ain't playable in the main game, plus they had it in their pre release description for the OST in the pack and someone assumed that this time it won't be like Frontiers and Superstars where they had a mini soundtrack, and came to find out the deluxe pack had a mini too, but because it wasn't stated clearly like the last two games the person felt like they should have known better to trust. Kind of weird for Sega to leave out something so crucial that was clearly stated before, not a good look. I've learned you have to take everything with a grain of salt from Sega and to be careful and do research, lots of research, after day one 1 research, because me personally I don't trust Sega or Sonic Team to continue this continually consistency of quality over quantity. Heck it took me till Black Friday to finally get Sonic X Shadow cause I didn't trust it'll be good. I needed UA-camrs like Radical Soda to say it's good, and man this game is good
It was not advertised as a skin and level, it was advertised as a pack, packs are usually tied to a specific areas (fnaf hw) is an example of that, i dont play many games but im pretty sure its relatively the same, you're just taking this out your butt cause ur mad about it not being how YOU wanted it to be.
If you want to lie for a corporation, that's on you. The video uses only official advertising as evidence.
Edit to add: if you want to go with "it's a pack so it's not expected to be in the main game" route, Sonic Superstars had a Lego pack that was alternate skins usable in the game. While mentioning Lego, their games also have DLC like the Man of Steel pack from Lego Batman 3 where you can use all those characters in the main game.
The only time I can think of Sega locking a skin to a DLC level was the Zelda stage in Lost World, a game that had no alternate costumes in the main game.
So are you gonna ruin your whole experience because one thing was out of place? 😐
Life's too short for that. And tomorrow this game and everything I own can be gone with my last breath. I'm disappointed, but this has been an amazing year for Shadow fans. Rather look forward to the movie. 😕
What do you mean?
I stated in this video that this won't impact my review for the DLC.
Ну что, автор, ты обманул. Скин привязан к одному уровню.
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@AnotherSonicFanboy ты говорил, что облик из фильма, можно будет использовать и в основной игре. DLC вышло, и этот облик нельзя использовать в основной игре.
@@hard_play73 I didn't say that. I said that the movie DLC skin should be playable in the main game and that I disagree with Sega's decision to not make it playable.
why are you angry over a single skin
I bought the more expensive version of the game because I wanted the additional skins.