Excuse me for comment in this thread, first of all I want you to know that I am not some stupid internet troll, I actually played a floppy version of the game on a Windows 95 or 98 computer where there was a third bathroom where you found the Medusa woman who is mentioned in the first Attic book of the legend of Perseus and Medusa, I have searched endlessly on pages like "the internet archive", "the cutting room floor" and "speed demos archive", please help me or ask any contact or community that exists specialized in the game if anyone else had that version and how to find it, it has a very important nostalgic value for me, thank you from the bottom of my heart
Exactly ! A fool would say that it's simply some cheaty glitches breaking the game, but it's nothing less than an hommage to Lovecraft universe where rules outstrips the reality we all think we understand. Thank you, sir ! =p
Merci énormément ! Ça m'avait pris beaucoup de temps. Au vu de la durée totale assez courte j'avais tenu à ce que ce soit le plus irréprochable possible, en recommençant à la moindre erreur notable. C'est sans doute pas parfait mais je m'en suis bien sorti je crois x)
Hi there ! In fact you can check one of my old records ( with a time of 10:56), I think the route could be considerated as a glitchless run, as I do not use any OOB or clip. If I had to modify it to make a run wihtout OOB (but with glitches), the only modification would probably be the use of the jump-trick to skip the water part when I runaway the underground at the end. I couldn't use any of the clips as they're technically based on the same move allowing to OOB (the only difference is that I use it between two rooms instead of between a room and the nothingness =p).
J'ai vu ça et je me suis abonné illico. Excellent speedrun avec un usage très impressionnant des bogues du système de collision. Très très très très très bon.
Good gravy. I realize this was 1992, but no way could I have played this offering back in the day. The updated version just released is much more appetizing. Solid run and Idk how you ever learned to do what you did.
I learned it by playing it too much ahah. I also had a lot of help from different nice and clever people ! I'm not sure I would be able to be so dedicated today. I'm growing old... Didn't play the remake yet but I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it. I can't wait x)
You can find some footage of a canceled remake here on youtube. Another remake was anounced like one year ago with z trailer showing a lot of changes. No news of it since then I think...
Holy shit!, im half way through this game and its hard as hell, I own the 3DO version so controls are a little clunky on a d pad, but never have I ever imagined this game being beaten in less then 7 min You're Awesome!
Always loved this game, never completed it. The puzzles were a bit confusing in places and the monsters made me shit myself - eapecially rhe one who crashes theough the window! 😂
I love these old games. Brings me back to whe I was very young. I was never good at this game, but dang I wish I would heave beaten it. It's amazing how people are able to record themselves playing a game that came out decades ago. Brings me way back.
My sister used to play it when I was young. I wasn't allowed to play it by myself and I was too scared to do so anyway x) it's definitly a part of my childhood !
A wonderful run! That clipping is next level shit! While we all agree that the 3d models are rather rough and ugly, especially the 2 humans(player models), keep in mind that this game was released years before GPUs could do 3D on their own and the CPU had to do all the heavy lifting for 3D rendering. The models had to be extremely simple, low resolution, and couldn't really use textures. Notice how the textures on the 3d models were usually solid colors or various forms of checker boarding.
Game was really ahead of it's time. All models are animated using bones, something you would not see in FPS games before Half-Life. As you mentioned, models are not really textured, but rather shaded using random noise or some kind of gradient. Proper texturing would mean to do perspective correction which involve expensive divisions.
Hello! What an amazing run I should say. I was thinking about running this game and tried couple of tricks/skips but had some difficulties in certain sections. So, I'd like to ask you some questions. 1. The clip you do at the library (1:26) seems to be the hardest trick in this run. From your SDA forum post and trying the clip by myself, I found that getting the right angle is important. However, I'm having issue getting the angle consistently. Do you have any visual/audio cues or setups that help you get the right angle? 2. Sometimes if I make a mistake in the OoB section at the cavern (3:20~3:47), I got the wrong camera angle and got completely lost but most importantly, it seemed like my character get stuck and won't move. Are there any ways to resolve these situations? ( I doubt it but just asking :P) 3. Why do you jump out of the cavern at 5:56? Does that save time?
Hi there ! My god I'm very sorry it seems I did not see your comment or forgot to answer it. I just saw it now completely by accident x) Anyway, let's start. I'll try to remember as hard as I can since it's been a long time that I didn't run the game. 1. For the library thing: One of the hardest trick indeed because you have to position yourself quickly and rightly. By trying again and again you'll "feel" more and more how the clip system works. To be simple, the less your run is perpendicular to the front wall, the more you'll be moved to the side, but if your angle is too opened it wont work. When you reach the end of the wall, you'll have to close the angle to be moved as close as you can to the edge. For the first angle, my visual clue was to see Emily's left leg being after the foot of the library ( the brown band). I instantly knew if my position was good or not after that depending of how fast I could ride up the next furniture. About the second angle, it's more or less the same thing, I wanted to see both legs totally inside the desk foot facing the camera (notice that in my run it was really closed, I wasn't sure to have a good position but I tried to continue anyway because after a time the monster'll stuck you). For the last angle the visual clue is clearer, I wanted Emily's head to be clearly after the brown book.If it can reassure you, I didn't succeed all the time at all. In fact most of the time my failed runs stopped here x) 2. I don't quiet remember if I was doing a particular thing from 3:20 to 3:25 (I assume that's the part that gives you troubles ?) when I didn't see the character. I remember that it was important at 3:19 to leave the screen with a correct angle, if not you'll reach a wall angle and you'll run against it without knowing it, not making any progress or making you lose time even if you manage to find a way out. For the part after I think the video shows pretty well the visual clues that I was using. Generally it's like " when I pass this visual line, I turn and run in a straight line until the next screen". If those informations aren't enough don't hesitate to precise your problem ^^ 3. Yes indeed it saves time because you avoid the "crawling" animation. BUT as soon as you're in the next room you have to activate the glitch making you not fall. If you don't do that, Emily'll fall through the floor when you'll come back to first floor, softlocking the game x) Is everything good ?
LOL, 6 minutes, amazing ;-) Still more enjoyable if you take your time :-) And I didn´t know the game is SO full of errors, haha, never experienced one when I´ve played it back in the 90s, but then again, one didn´t try to walk through walls to speed it up, haha. The bugs in the caves are hilarious! I´ve always tried to pass the worm somehow (which only comes if you down there too early), but never made it, amazing to see how you´ve done it and how crazy the errors are down there (walking on the water, etc. hahahaha). Good job.
alf3k1 Thank you very much ! I received a lot of help from several people who tried hard to find every trick and every possible way to use this little glitch alowing to pass through walls and stuff. You're not supposed to pass the worm from this path indeed, if you let it go this way it'll eventually pass through the wall, and it'll move forward eternally, frozing the game at some point. I agree though, and it's probably true for a lot of games especially those with good ambiance: lot more enjoyable when you play it normally. Thanks for the comment :)
Impressionnant ! Oui 4 ans déjà sur ce jeu mais bon quelque part j'espère qu'il y aura d'autres découverte sur le jeu qui te permettront d'améliorer encore (même si là ça semble compliqué de faire mieux xd) bref en tout cas encore GG à toi et à ceux qui t'ont aidés pour cette peut-être ultime optimisation
Merci à toi ! Je crois que LotBlind est actuellement en pleine lecture du code du jeu, aidé par Tigrou. Il n'est pas exclu que de nouvelles choses soient trouvées, même si à priori la map nous avait permis de tester plus ou moins tous les endroits du jeu où il semblait possible (et utile) de clip à travers un angle. Et puis, j'aimerais speedrunner un autre jeu =p l'indice est dans la description...
J'adorerais voir un run commenté (que ca soit la version glitchée, non-glitchée, ou les deux), voir même une vidéo en général sur tous les petits détails du jeu (qu'ils soient techniques ou non)... ça serait fascinant !
Je vais garder cela en mémoire ! En fait ce n'est pas la première que cette idée est mise en avant et c'est vrai qu'en plus de rendre le speedrun plus compréhensible, de nombreuses mécaniques du jeu sont assez intéressantes ^^ Je trouverai le temps et la motivation !
Coming back to this, I have questions. For the gargoyles, do they not spawn because of the clip in the hallway or is it because of the animation of the werewolf coming through the window and it hasn't loaded those assets?
Ed Martinez Okay it’s complicated but I’ll try to explain (and to remember too). I do not clip in the hallway, the door simply isn’t there, neither are the gargoyles. In this game, walls are relative to your location but some « objects » are relative to the camera (and somehow, triggerboxes for camera angles aren’t the same than triggerboxes for room loading). In this scene, the camera is temporarily defocused from the character for a few seconds. During this action window, I just run to reach the stairs. I still trigger rooms so I can’t pass through walls BUT as the camera isn’t there, there is no door or monster.
Oh, I never gave you an answer, sorry about that. Dropping an item during a jump animation allows me to not fall, that's why I run over the water few sec later :)
There was another zombie DOS game, even older than this, where you also used a polygonal blonde woman that moved in a similar way to the one you can use in this game... I still remember a scene where you entered the bathroom of the house and there was a zombie hidden inside.... But I can't find this game anywhere and I can't remember the name... CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME??
Hi there ! It's a complicated trick. Basically, I trigger the cutscene when the chicken-zombie thing appears by going out and in the room. When it happens, the camera is stuck on the animation for a few sec as I'm still able to move. Without the camera following me, most of 3d models aren't loaded on the map, it includes both ennemies AND the door at the end of the corridor. To make it simple: I trigger a 'cutscene' so the camera doesn't follow me, allowing me to reach the stairs without facing the door and medusas :)
Sub seven ... Tu me l'as dis, tu l'as fais ... Franchement, bien joué mon pote ! Va falloir que tu m'explique comment tu fais pour toujours te surpasser ! Félicitation !
Oh mince ! C'est vrai que j'avais dit que je te tiendrais au courant et ça m'est sorti de la tête. En tout cas merci beaucoup. J'attends qu'un comparse me confirme qu'il ne trouve rien de plus dessus avant de le faire vérifier sur SDA (et j'espère très sincèrement qu'il ne trouvera rien parce que malgré tout l'amour que je porte à ce jeu j'en ai un peu assez de le speedrunner). Quoi qu'il en soit, c'est quand tu le souhaites les explications x) Plus il devient court, moins il y a de choses à décrire.
T'en fais pas mec. C'est paradoxal ce que tu dis parce-que au final, plus court, mais pour expliquer comment t'as fais, ça va être plus compliqué/long :D Quoi qu'il en soit, j'ai hâte d'entendre tes explication !
ok :-) allez je te pousse un peu. Je suis assez technophile, et tout autant intéressé par les outils pour explorer les secrets enfouis dans les données d'un jeu que par le speedrun lui-même.
Disons qu'au bout d'un moment il va devenir difficile de faire plus court, en cela qu'actuellement ma route est quasiment directe: je prends la lanterne ainsi que ses carburants & comburants, je vais chercher le talisman et je fonce affronter Pregzt en passant à travers les salles de la manière la plus directe connue à ce jour. A l'heure actuelle, ce qui me prend le plus de temps est tout simplement l'aller retour nécessaire à atteindre le boss puis à s'enfuir. Le Viewer que notre ami Tigrou nous a codé nous a aidé à trouver et tester tous les endroits où il était possible de clipper à travers murs et portes, endroits que LotBlind a testé, puis que j'ai chronométré pour être certain de n'oublier aucune possibilité. A moins que l'on trouve un moyen de se téléporter, de décaper la vitesse du personnage OU de biaiser le script de la porte de sortie, une nouvelle route me paraît difficilement envisageable. x)
I first tried this game when i was 8 years old or something. Found it extremely terrifying and giving me nightmares. Later tried it when i was 10-12 yrs old and got just as scared and lastly when i was like 15yrs... i never finished the game, i thought it was too confusing and had clunky controls and in the end i still found it quite scary... today i’m 35, i still find it clunky, scary and confusing. Heart rushing, sweaty palms and all!
Difficile à dire, mon premier speedrun du jeu date d'il y a 4 ans et je l'ai sans cesse amélioré depuis ( 11:54 > 10:56 > 9:27 > 8:22 puis 6:21). En tout je dirais probablement une centaine de fois par amélioration, en comptant les quelques micro-phases que je répétais en boucle jusqu'à les intégrer et les appliquer correctement. Il me semble qu'au fond le plus compliqué est de bien maîtriser les déplacements en général pour optimiser ses actions et ne pas perdre de temps. Par exemple: si tu compares ma façon de récupérer le "oil can" au tout début du jeu entre mon tout premier speedrun et celui-ci, je gagne probablement deux ou trois secondes sur ce simple mouvement. Je ne faisais pas spécialement d'erreur avant mais à force de répéter ce mouvement, je l'ai peu à peu amélioré pour le rendre beaucoup plus fluide et efficace en étant plus précis dans mes mouvements. J'espère que je suis clair pour vous x)
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+NintendoHardGamer blah blah blah, j'ai compris, avez-vous faites le run de Alone in the dark 3?
Oui, j'ai un temps d'un peu plus de 26 minutes. Je n'ai jamais posté la vidéo car le run n'est pas encore propre et je ne travaille plus trop dessus à l'heure actuelle. Je finirai par le terminer quand la motivation me reviendra x)
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+NintendoHardGamer oh mon dieu. So boring if i keep speaking French, i think you should pay more attention at it and, bonne chance!
I don't understand why you begin it in the first place, but anyway 8-) I'll eventually come back to Alone 3 and I believe sub 25 is possible, I just don't find the motivation right now. Thanks and see ya !
Nope sir, I received help from motivated people since almost 4 years. For this update, it was mostly 2 guys named LotBlind and Tigrou. LotBlind was the gold digger who tried hard to find every possible useful thing, he discovered most of the new tricks. Tigrou was able to read the code of the game and explain how it worked, he also made a dynamic map showing a lot of informations in real time, really really useful for research.
Ray Koopa I have some notes written to submit the speedrun at SDA. I didn t post it because I waited until a friend had his segmented speedrun ready but I think he let it down x)
Ray Koopa As the running move system changed a little, it is impossible to reproduce this glitch in AitD 2 and 3. However, there's another way to do something kinda similar against doors and some of the walls by running against it and opening the item list at the right time. Saddly and because of all of the game scripts it is useful only at one place: at the end when you play Carnby for the first time in the boat, you can directly access to the capitain's room without having the cardkey (don't forget to take the item allowing to free Grace though). You'll also have to do it to leave the room, it would save like 2min in my speedrun of Alone 2 but I didn't find the motivation to re-do it yet
Ray Koopa I tried a long time to clip through the portal to reach the garden but it seems impossible. To say it simply, this glitch happens because when you pause the game, it calculates when you'll be at the end of the current move, and if there's no obstacle in that spot you'll be "teleported". The thing is there are some hitboxes behind the portal who make the glitch impossible. You can find a dynamic map viewer to launch with the game in the SDA database of the game, it should help you a lot to search things. I did not try to bring modifications to any files because I m basically just some idiot who speedrun the game x) I do not know how it works and the technical aspect is probably too complicated for me :p
Hi there ! I intentionally didn't do it, I kinda don't like how the website works. I mean it is fine if you run a popular game: a lot of people moderate and verify all submitted speedruns correctly. But as for unknown/forgotten games, the submitter fastly becomes his own judge because nobody else cares, and he (obviously) accepts his own run even if it's not good at all (not just the run, sometimes even the video is unwatchable). The result is that tons of sh*t that you can barely call speedruns are uploaded and accepted without being verified properly. And don't get me wrong here, I'm not talking about speedrun elitism or something like that, every speedrun deserves recognition. But speedrunning a game asks some sort of method and work. You can't just record some bad playthrough and call it a speedrun just because you want your name at the top of some ranking and that the spot is free. Just look at this very game, it's a good exemple of what I'm saying. I have nothing against the guy who posted the video in speedrun.com but 38:22, seriously !? How is this a speedrun time ? The very first speedrun of the game by PokaP was 25 minuts shorter, and it's like 8 years old... In fact I'm pretty sure even a good walkthrough could make a better time ! I prefer the severity of SpeedDemoArchive.com where every speedrun (popular game or not) is treated the same manner so having an accepted speedrun actually has a meaning x)
Yeah, I get what you are saying, I'm fairly new to speedrunning (as a fan not as an actual apeedrunner) and I too have some issues with the site and I saw the run you're talking about, it feels like the guy is playing casually.
And he probably is, wich is fine but it's not really... You know, a speedrun x) If you want some good speedrun about Super Meat Boy, Metroid or Mario, you'll definitely find your wish on Speedrun.com. But if the game you're asking for is kinda old or underrated, you better search it by yourself on UA-cam first or even Google ^^
You can see how much Resident Evil copied this game when you play it, from the menu to the combinaison system, manor and puzzles, 3D object view, engine, protagonist choice, moving barricades, ground breaking under your feed etc You'll everything in the First Resident Evil 1, 2 , 3 and still people will say AITD is the copy since RE was by a big company with a bigger budget and with the playstation 1 launch. Sad that Mikami only admited once that he studied this game and AITD 2 with his team when RE was still an FPS game, and full of ego retracted it again by saying "Maybe".
I know I know, it's a long story. I used to be against how the website worked. I'm at peace with that now but I just don't mind about being on a ranking x)
@@arnaud33200 Oh yeah, I saw that. It's really nice of them ^^. I let a message on the forum to say that I could help if they had questions. Saddly the forum seems pretty dead since the last year...
@@NintendoHardGamer yeah everything seems to be slow on speedrun.com. I've submitted a speedrun, it's been more than a month an still no answer ... btw if you want to take a look, check my channel, it's a similar game
@@arnaud33200 Well it really is depending on the popularity of the game itself, that's one of the things I had a problem with x) Mah gad ! I'll watch it but I want to do it first. It really is AitD like :o I'm sure I heard about that game before, because it's the same engine or something like that. Shame in me to never tried it !
So… For anyone calling the newly released Alone in the Dark game a remake of the original… Well, just look at the shit that goes down here and show me where any of it happens in the new game at all 😅😅 Cause I finish it 6 times and ain’t seen any of it 😂😂😂
Finding the exploits is a craft all to itself. Can you imagine playing a game running into the walls for hours to find that one crack that lets you phase through? That's a level of dedication and skill to be admired.
This is an insult to the game!!!!! I bet u got the walkthrough by UA-cam vídeos... I played this game in the 90s, AitD 2 and 3 too, also jack in the dark. Times when u played without any ridiculous tricks, glitches or walkthroughs... U had to play by yourself to beat the game, and i beated the 4 of them... Despickable...
My god, you're that old yet you're acting like a child. I can understand that you think that glitches and bugs ruin the experience of such a great serie but don't come here and spit your scorn just because you consider that completing the game long time ago makes you a greater gamer, fan or whatever. Playing a game or speerunning it are complete different experiences and both are really enjoyable. I wouldn't speedrun it if I didn't play it more casually at first so stop your nonsense. As for the use of walkthroughs... Dude, are you seriously bragging about that like it was impressive ? My sister beat it when she was 13years old, that's not even a joke. Grow up a little.
You could just say you don't like glitch abuse. Same message but without being rude without any good reason. Speedruns of this game without glitch also exists somewhere on my channel if you're interested. Have a nice day pal !
@@NintendoHardGamer that no glitch speed run was sick I would’ve never even beat the game when it first came out I couldn’t even get passed the demons at the stair case when I was 6 😂
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Poor Pregzt. His reign of evil lasted for 6 minutes. I nearly feel sorry for him.
I nearly choked on my orange juice lmao
LOL
Excuse me for comment in this thread, first of all I want you to know that I am not some stupid internet troll, I actually played a floppy version of the game on a Windows 95 or 98 computer where there was a third bathroom where you found the Medusa woman who is mentioned in the first Attic book of the legend of Perseus and Medusa, I have searched endlessly on pages like "the internet archive", "the cutting room floor" and "speed demos archive", please help me or ask any contact or community that exists specialized in the game if anyone else had that version and how to find it, it has a very important nostalgic value for me, thank you from the bottom of my heart
Seriously, her face is scarier than any monster in the game. Awesome run!
She didn’t jump in the air at the end.
@@eswnl1 And just for that it's why Carnby is a way better protagonist
Looks like a New Jersey 50-year-old botox addicted housewife.
Emily:ok, i have a cab in 10 minutes... i really should make it quick here...
Credit where it's due. All this walking between two dimensional plans in spite of physics really fits the lovecraftian theme of the game.
Exactly ! A fool would say that it's simply some cheaty glitches breaking the game, but it's nothing less than an hommage to Lovecraft universe where rules outstrips the reality we all think we understand. Thank you, sir ! =p
Any% Non-Euclydian Run
@@NintendoHardGamer hehehe
Never thought seeing a woman run up against a bunch of bookshelves would be this intense
The window monster used to scare the everloving shit out of me
Finally got closure after playing this game way back in the day for the first time. This video has been entertaining, thanks. :)
J'avais déjà cette run il y a longtemps, mais à la revoir aujourd'hui, je constate qu'elle est toujours aussi grandiose ! GG
*déjà vu
Merci énormément ! Ça m'avait pris beaucoup de temps. Au vu de la durée totale assez courte j'avais tenu à ce que ce soit le plus irréprochable possible, en recommençant à la moindre erreur notable.
C'est sans doute pas parfait mais je m'en suis bien sorti je crois x)
I laughed harder than I should've at this. All the puzzles Emily just said "fuck you" to, goddamn I cracked up.
The "evil laugh" at 1:03 gets me every time.
Wow, I didn't know the game had so many Out of Bounds possibilities. Does anyone run this without Out of Bounds?
Hi there ! In fact you can check one of my old records ( with a time of 10:56), I think the route could be considerated as a glitchless run, as I do not use any OOB or clip. If I had to modify it to make a run wihtout OOB (but with glitches), the only modification would probably be the use of the jump-trick to skip the water part when I runaway the underground at the end. I couldn't use any of the clips as they're technically based on the same move allowing to OOB (the only difference is that I use it between two rooms instead of between a room and the nothingness =p).
Creativity of designers is stunning
Where we're going, we don't need doors!
J'ai vu ça et je me suis abonné illico. Excellent speedrun avec un usage très impressionnant des bogues du système de collision. Très très très très très bon.
Incredible! Thank you for your efforts.
Well, thank you for you comment ^^ Have a wonderful day my good fellow !
Good gravy. I realize this was 1992, but no way could I have played this offering back in the day. The updated version just released is much more appetizing. Solid run and Idk how you ever learned to do what you did.
I learned it by playing it too much ahah. I also had a lot of help from different nice and clever people ! I'm not sure I would be able to be so dedicated today. I'm growing old...
Didn't play the remake yet but I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it. I can't wait x)
I didn't even know there were such exploits in this game.
Its cool seen glitches un old ganes like in this one. Good work, Buddy
A Alone in the Dark-Remake would be interesting.
You can find some footage of a canceled remake here on youtube. Another remake was anounced like one year ago with z trailer showing a lot of changes. No news of it since then I think...
I love the game and bow my hat to you for your amazing speedrun.
Thank you mate, it took me a long time a lot of help ! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Holy shit!, im half way through this game and its hard as hell, I own the 3DO version so controls are a little clunky on a d pad, but never have I ever imagined this game being beaten in less then 7 min
You're Awesome!
i think it was p easy.
I remember when we first beat this game thinking damn, Emily can't catch a break when the driver turned around. Lol
Always loved this game, never completed it. The puzzles were a bit confusing in places and the monsters made me shit myself - eapecially rhe one who crashes theough the window! 😂
She literally used another dimension to hit back the evil tree.
I love these old games. Brings me back to whe I was very young. I was never good at this game, but dang I wish I would heave beaten it.
It's amazing how people are able to record themselves playing a game that came out decades ago. Brings me way back.
My sister used to play it when I was young. I wasn't allowed to play it by myself and I was too scared to do so anyway x) it's definitly a part of my childhood !
That Lich stood on chance against that Archmage of Levitation and Phasing.
A wonderful run! That clipping is next level shit!
While we all agree that the 3d models are rather rough and ugly, especially the 2 humans(player models), keep in mind that this game was released years before GPUs could do 3D on their own and the CPU had to do all the heavy lifting for 3D rendering. The models had to be extremely simple, low resolution, and couldn't really use textures. Notice how the textures on the 3d models were usually solid colors or various forms of checker boarding.
Game was really ahead of it's time. All models are animated using bones, something you would not see in FPS games before Half-Life. As you mentioned, models are not really textured, but rather shaded using random noise or some kind of gradient. Proper texturing would mean to do perspective correction which involve expensive divisions.
Oh my,Resident Evil 1 is such a copycat!!
I could not play this game as a kid.
Hello! What an amazing run I should say. I was thinking about running this game and tried couple of tricks/skips but had some difficulties in certain sections. So, I'd like to ask you some questions.
1. The clip you do at the library (1:26) seems to be the hardest trick in this run. From your SDA forum post and trying the clip by myself, I found that getting the right angle is important. However, I'm having issue getting the angle consistently. Do you have any visual/audio cues or setups that help you get the right angle?
2. Sometimes if I make a mistake in the OoB section at the cavern (3:20~3:47), I got the wrong camera angle and got completely lost but most importantly, it seemed like my character get stuck and won't move. Are there any ways to resolve these situations? ( I doubt it but just asking :P)
3. Why do you jump out of the cavern at 5:56? Does that save time?
Hi there ! My god I'm very sorry it seems I did not see your comment or forgot to answer it. I just saw it now completely by accident x)
Anyway, let's start. I'll try to remember as hard as I can since it's been a long time that I didn't run the game.
1. For the library thing: One of the hardest trick indeed because you have to position yourself quickly and rightly. By trying again and again you'll "feel" more and more how the clip system works. To be simple, the less your run is perpendicular to the front wall, the more you'll be moved to the side, but if your angle is too opened it wont work. When you reach the end of the wall, you'll have to close the angle to be moved as close as you can to the edge. For the first angle, my visual clue was to see Emily's left leg being after the foot of the library ( the brown band). I instantly knew if my position was good or not after that depending of how fast I could ride up the next furniture. About the second angle, it's more or less the same thing, I wanted to see both legs totally inside the desk foot facing the camera (notice that in my run it was really closed, I wasn't sure to have a good position but I tried to continue anyway because after a time the monster'll stuck you). For the last angle the visual clue is clearer, I wanted Emily's head to be clearly after the brown book.If it can reassure you, I didn't succeed all the time at all. In fact most of the time my failed runs stopped here x)
2. I don't quiet remember if I was doing a particular thing from 3:20 to 3:25 (I assume that's the part that gives you troubles ?) when I didn't see the character. I remember that it was important at 3:19 to leave the screen with a correct angle, if not you'll reach a wall angle and you'll run against it without knowing it, not making any progress or making you lose time even if you manage to find a way out. For the part after I think the video shows pretty well the visual clues that I was using. Generally it's like " when I pass this visual line, I turn and run in a straight line until the next screen". If those informations aren't enough don't hesitate to precise your problem ^^
3. Yes indeed it saves time because you avoid the "crawling" animation. BUT as soon as you're in the next room you have to activate the glitch making you not fall. If you don't do that, Emily'll fall through the floor when you'll come back to first floor, softlocking the game x)
Is everything good ?
@@NintendoHardGamer Thanks for the comment! That helped a lot 👍
LOL, 6 minutes, amazing ;-) Still more enjoyable if you take your time :-) And I didn´t know the game is SO full of errors, haha, never experienced one when I´ve played it back in the 90s, but then again, one didn´t try to walk through walls to speed it up, haha. The bugs in the caves are hilarious! I´ve always tried to pass the worm somehow (which only comes if you down there too early), but never made it, amazing to see how you´ve done it and how crazy the errors are down there (walking on the water, etc. hahahaha). Good job.
alf3k1 Thank you very much ! I received a lot of help from several people who tried hard to find every trick and every possible way to use this little glitch alowing to pass through walls and stuff. You're not supposed to pass the worm from this path indeed, if you let it go this way it'll eventually pass through the wall, and it'll move forward eternally, frozing the game at some point.
I agree though, and it's probably true for a lot of games especially those with good ambiance: lot more enjoyable when you play it normally.
Thanks for the comment :)
A game until now i don’t have the courage to finish... so scary 👻💀
never knew this game was around. I guess I was busy playing my Sega Genesis and SNES.
This game looks sick asf where can I get a copy?? Looks ten times better than resident evil!!!!
The easiest place to get the game has to be Gog.com
The Remake of the game is coming!
I just saw that. I got nothing against the idea, I just hope the remake won't be something without anything in commun except the tittle x_x
Impressionnant ! Oui 4 ans déjà sur ce jeu mais bon quelque part j'espère qu'il y aura d'autres découverte sur le jeu qui te permettront d'améliorer encore (même si là ça semble compliqué de faire mieux xd) bref en tout cas encore GG à toi et à ceux qui t'ont aidés pour cette peut-être ultime optimisation
Merci à toi ! Je crois que LotBlind est actuellement en pleine lecture du code du jeu, aidé par Tigrou. Il n'est pas exclu que de nouvelles choses soient trouvées, même si à priori la map nous avait permis de tester plus ou moins tous les endroits du jeu où il semblait possible (et utile) de clip à travers un angle. Et puis, j'aimerais speedrunner un autre jeu =p l'indice est dans la description...
J'adorerais voir un run commenté (que ca soit la version glitchée, non-glitchée, ou les deux), voir même une vidéo en général sur tous les petits détails du jeu (qu'ils soient techniques ou non)... ça serait fascinant !
Je vais garder cela en mémoire ! En fait ce n'est pas la première que cette idée est mise en avant et c'est vrai qu'en plus de rendre le speedrun plus compréhensible, de nombreuses mécaniques du jeu sont assez intéressantes ^^ Je trouverai le temps et la motivation !
What a wonderful mess of a game.
HOLY MOTHER OF CHICKENS WE HAVE A WINNER!!
Well thank you :) The run is kinda messed up now that there's OOB everywhere but tricks are still pretty interesting !
Coming back to this, I have questions. For the gargoyles, do they not spawn because of the clip in the hallway or is it because of the animation of the werewolf coming through the window and it hasn't loaded those assets?
Ed Martinez Okay it’s complicated but I’ll try to explain (and to remember too). I do not clip in the hallway, the door simply isn’t there, neither are the gargoyles. In this game, walls are relative to your location but some « objects » are relative to the camera (and somehow, triggerboxes for camera angles aren’t the same than triggerboxes for room loading).
In this scene, the camera is temporarily defocused from the character for a few seconds. During this action window, I just run to reach the stairs. I still trigger rooms so I can’t pass through walls BUT as the camera isn’t there, there is no door or monster.
It was incredibly cool!!!
these enemies are not your typical zombies. makes them even scarier.
why did you drop the hook at the end?
Oh, I never gave you an answer, sorry about that. Dropping an item during a jump animation allows me to not fall, that's why I run over the water few sec later :)
@@NintendoHardGamer ahh 😀 thank you for your answer 👍🏻😀
There was another zombie DOS game, even older than this, where you also used a polygonal blonde woman that moved in a similar way to the one you can use in this game... I still remember a scene where you entered the bathroom of the house and there was a zombie hidden inside.... But I can't find this game anywhere and I can't remember the name... CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME??
WHO WAS DRIVING
How much was the World record in the game? Is this a record? (-_-) (Like 522; Comm 132; View 37713)
Hi there !
I'm pretty sure it's still the world record. Didn't check on speedrun.com recently though.
@@NintendoHardGamer Hi! I suppose that hasn't to will bring more lesser value. May be split some seconds. It's unbelievable time, 6.21! (^_^)
How were there no dragons at the top of the stairs?
Hi there !
It's a complicated trick. Basically, I trigger the cutscene when the chicken-zombie thing appears by going out and in the room. When it happens, the camera is stuck on the animation for a few sec as I'm still able to move. Without the camera following me, most of 3d models aren't loaded on the map, it includes both ennemies AND the door at the end of the corridor.
To make it simple: I trigger a 'cutscene' so the camera doesn't follow me, allowing me to reach the stairs without facing the door and medusas :)
@@NintendoHardGamer smart! And thanks for the reply. 😄
Encore du très bon boulot poto ! On s'expliquera tout ça devant une petite boisson au prochain TGS :p (Où même plus tôt ?)
Merci mon jeune ami ! On tentera de se trouver une après-midi ou deux pendant la saison si cela te convient et que tu en as le temps ^^
Sub seven ... Tu me l'as dis, tu l'as fais ... Franchement, bien joué mon pote ! Va falloir que tu m'explique comment tu fais pour toujours te surpasser ! Félicitation !
Oh mince ! C'est vrai que j'avais dit que je te tiendrais au courant et ça m'est sorti de la tête. En tout cas merci beaucoup. J'attends qu'un comparse me confirme qu'il ne trouve rien de plus dessus avant de le faire vérifier sur SDA (et j'espère très sincèrement qu'il ne trouvera rien parce que malgré tout l'amour que je porte à ce jeu j'en ai un peu assez de le speedrunner). Quoi qu'il en soit, c'est quand tu le souhaites les explications x) Plus il devient court, moins il y a de choses à décrire.
T'en fais pas mec. C'est paradoxal ce que tu dis parce-que au final, plus court, mais pour expliquer comment t'as fais, ça va être plus compliqué/long :D Quoi qu'il en soit, j'ai hâte d'entendre tes explication !
une petite vidéo où on voit le Viewer en action ? ce serait cool!!!
machaineà je suis pas forcement à l aise avec les montages vidéos mais je garde cette idée en tête !
ok :-)
allez je te pousse un peu. Je suis assez technophile, et tout autant intéressé par les outils pour explorer les secrets enfouis dans les données d'un jeu que par le speedrun lui-même.
My teacher is this game's scenarist
Seriously ?! How cool ! What is his name ? Mr. Chardot ? That's the name I see on the wiki page...
What in gods name... :D Woah... !!!
She looks like the violin girl from Courage the Cowardly Dog
This is definitely how you're supposed to play the game xD
Oh my god !
Disons qu'au bout d'un moment il va devenir difficile de faire plus court, en cela qu'actuellement ma route est quasiment directe: je prends la lanterne ainsi que ses carburants & comburants, je vais chercher le talisman et je fonce affronter Pregzt en passant à travers les salles de la manière la plus directe connue à ce jour. A l'heure actuelle, ce qui me prend le plus de temps est tout simplement l'aller retour nécessaire à atteindre le boss puis à s'enfuir. Le Viewer que notre ami Tigrou nous a codé nous a aidé à trouver et tester tous les endroits où il était possible de clipper à travers murs et portes, endroits que LotBlind a testé, puis que j'ai chronométré pour être certain de n'oublier aucune possibilité. A moins que l'on trouve un moyen de se téléporter, de décaper la vitesse du personnage OU de biaiser le script de la porte de sortie, une nouvelle route me paraît difficilement envisageable. x)
I first tried this game when i was 8 years old or something. Found it extremely terrifying and giving me nightmares. Later tried it when i was 10-12 yrs old and got just as scared and lastly when i was like 15yrs... i never finished the game, i thought it was too confusing and had clunky controls and in the end i still found it quite scary...
today i’m 35, i still find it clunky, scary and confusing. Heart rushing, sweaty palms and all!
Como se chama essa musica q toca no final?
Philippe Vachey - Happy Outcome
Combien de fois avez-vous fait et pratisé ce speedrun? Je ne suis pas français mais j'adore un peu parler en français.
Difficile à dire, mon premier speedrun du jeu date d'il y a 4 ans et je l'ai sans cesse amélioré depuis ( 11:54 > 10:56 > 9:27 > 8:22 puis 6:21). En tout je dirais probablement une centaine de fois par amélioration, en comptant les quelques micro-phases que je répétais en boucle jusqu'à les intégrer et les appliquer correctement. Il me semble qu'au fond le plus compliqué est de bien maîtriser les déplacements en général pour optimiser ses actions et ne pas perdre de temps. Par exemple: si tu compares ma façon de récupérer le "oil can" au tout début du jeu entre mon tout premier speedrun et celui-ci, je gagne probablement deux ou trois secondes sur ce simple mouvement. Je ne faisais pas spécialement d'erreur avant mais à force de répéter ce mouvement, je l'ai peu à peu amélioré pour le rendre beaucoup plus fluide et efficace en étant plus précis dans mes mouvements.
J'espère que je suis clair pour vous x)
+NintendoHardGamer blah blah blah, j'ai compris, avez-vous faites le run de Alone in the dark 3?
Oui, j'ai un temps d'un peu plus de 26 minutes. Je n'ai jamais posté la vidéo car le run n'est pas encore propre et je ne travaille plus trop dessus à l'heure actuelle. Je finirai par le terminer quand la motivation me reviendra x)
+NintendoHardGamer oh mon dieu. So boring if i keep speaking French, i think you should pay more attention at it and, bonne chance!
I don't understand why you begin it in the first place, but anyway 8-) I'll eventually come back to Alone 3 and I believe sub 25 is possible, I just don't find the motivation right now. Thanks and see ya !
I dont understand at ua-cam.com/video/HD2Dq75Kzro/v-deo.html What kind of Glith is that.
Hello there, sorry for the late answer !
You can find the explanation in another comment here, an answer to "Silentj624".
Have a great day :)
Game made in french and relase in 1991 yes cool
Dude you're weird x)
Did you discover all those shortcuts by yourself?
Nope sir, I received help from motivated people since almost 4 years. For this update, it was mostly 2 guys named LotBlind and Tigrou. LotBlind was the gold digger who tried hard to find every possible useful thing, he discovered most of the new tricks. Tigrou was able to read the code of the game and explain how it worked, he also made a dynamic map showing a lot of informations in real time, really really useful for research.
Cool, I was wondering how anyone can find out such tricks. It just looks like some random actions to me.
Ray Koopa I have some notes written to submit the speedrun at SDA. I didn t post it because I waited until a friend had his segmented speedrun ready but I think he let it down x)
Ray Koopa As the running move system changed a little, it is impossible to reproduce this glitch in AitD 2 and 3. However, there's another way to do something kinda similar against doors and some of the walls by running against it and opening the item list at the right time. Saddly and because of all of the game scripts it is useful only at one place: at the end when you play Carnby for the first time in the boat, you can directly access to the capitain's room without having the cardkey (don't forget to take the item allowing to free Grace though). You'll also have to do it to leave the room, it would save like 2min in my speedrun of Alone 2 but I didn't find the motivation to re-do it yet
Ray Koopa I tried a long time to clip through the portal to reach the garden but it seems impossible. To say it simply, this glitch happens because when you pause the game, it calculates when you'll be at the end of the current move, and if there's no obstacle in that spot you'll be "teleported". The thing is there are some hitboxes behind the portal who make the glitch impossible. You can find a dynamic map viewer to launch with the game in the SDA database of the game, it should help you a lot to search things. I did not try to bring modifications to any files because I m basically just some idiot who speedrun the game x) I do not know how it works and the technical aspect is probably too complicated for me :p
Game full of glitches and backrooms !
You should submit this to speedrun.com
Hi there !
I intentionally didn't do it, I kinda don't like how the website works. I mean it is fine if you run a popular game: a lot of people moderate and verify all submitted speedruns correctly. But as for unknown/forgotten games, the submitter fastly becomes his own judge because nobody else cares, and he (obviously) accepts his own run even if it's not good at all (not just the run, sometimes even the video is unwatchable). The result is that tons of sh*t that you can barely call speedruns are uploaded and accepted without being verified properly.
And don't get me wrong here, I'm not talking about speedrun elitism or something like that, every speedrun deserves recognition. But speedrunning a game asks some sort of method and work. You can't just record some bad playthrough and call it a speedrun just because you want your name at the top of some ranking and that the spot is free. Just look at this very game, it's a good exemple of what I'm saying. I have nothing against the guy who posted the video in speedrun.com but 38:22, seriously !? How is this a speedrun time ? The very first speedrun of the game by PokaP was 25 minuts shorter, and it's like 8 years old... In fact I'm pretty sure even a good walkthrough could make a better time !
I prefer the severity of SpeedDemoArchive.com where every speedrun (popular game or not) is treated the same manner so having an accepted speedrun actually has a meaning x)
Yeah, I get what you are saying, I'm fairly new to speedrunning (as a fan not as an actual apeedrunner) and I too have some issues with the site and I saw the run you're talking about, it feels like the guy is playing casually.
And he probably is, wich is fine but it's not really... You know, a speedrun x) If you want some good speedrun about Super Meat Boy, Metroid or Mario, you'll definitely find your wish on Speedrun.com. But if the game you're asking for is kinda old or underrated, you better search it by yourself on UA-cam first or even Google ^^
You can see how much Resident Evil copied this game when you play it, from the menu to the combinaison system, manor and puzzles, 3D object view, engine, protagonist choice, moving barricades, ground breaking under your feed etc
You'll everything in the First Resident Evil 1, 2 , 3 and still people will say AITD is the copy since RE was by a big company with a bigger budget and with the playstation 1 launch.
Sad that Mikami only admited once that he studied this game and AITD 2 with his team when RE was still an FPS game, and full of ego retracted it again by saying "Maybe".
you should submit your run to speedrun.com!
I know I know, it's a long story. I used to be against how the website worked. I'm at peace with that now but I just don't mind about being on a ranking x)
@@NintendoHardGamer The current WR holder mentioned you in his run, at least you got some credit :)
@@arnaud33200 Oh yeah, I saw that. It's really nice of them ^^. I let a message on the forum to say that I could help if they had questions. Saddly the forum seems pretty dead since the last year...
@@NintendoHardGamer yeah everything seems to be slow on speedrun.com. I've submitted a speedrun, it's been more than a month an still no answer ... btw if you want to take a look, check my channel, it's a similar game
@@arnaud33200 Well it really is depending on the popularity of the game itself, that's one of the things I had a problem with x)
Mah gad ! I'll watch it but I want to do it first. It really is AitD like :o I'm sure I heard about that game before, because it's the same engine or something like that. Shame in me to never tried it !
WOW
This is a clusterfuck
So…
For anyone calling the newly released Alone in the Dark game a remake of the original…
Well, just look at the shit that goes down here and show me where any of it happens in the new game at all 😅😅
Cause I finish it 6 times and ain’t seen any of it 😂😂😂
Ironically the speedrun for the new game is similar to this one XD Lots of out of bounds.
What's the point in exploit speedruns?.... :(
Finding the exploits is a craft all to itself. Can you imagine playing a game running into the walls for hours to find that one crack that lets you phase through?
That's a level of dedication and skill to be admired.
This is an insult to the game!!!!!
I bet u got the walkthrough by UA-cam vídeos...
I played this game in the 90s, AitD 2 and 3 too, also jack in the dark. Times when u played without any ridiculous tricks, glitches or walkthroughs... U had to play by yourself to beat the game, and i beated the 4 of them...
Despickable...
My god, you're that old yet you're acting like a child. I can understand that you think that glitches and bugs ruin the experience of such a great serie but don't come here and spit your scorn just because you consider that completing the game long time ago makes you a greater gamer, fan or whatever. Playing a game or speerunning it are complete different experiences and both are really enjoyable. I wouldn't speedrun it if I didn't play it more casually at first so stop your nonsense. As for the use of walkthroughs... Dude, are you seriously bragging about that like it was impressive ? My sister beat it when she was 13years old, that's not even a joke. Grow up a little.
Poor baby can't stand to see someone speed-run a game that probably took them months to figure out. Wah wah wah.
@@BlokeOzzie Or years like me XD
Nice resident evil ripoff
Well it's 5 years older than Resident Evil. Mikami also confirmed that he mainly took inspiration of Alone in the Dark to create RE.
@@NintendoHardGamer no way
@@bsherman8236 You can check by yourself x)
@@NintendoHardGamer how is the game in widescreen?
@@bsherman8236 it works on DOSBOX so I guess it's some kind of fake 4:3
This cheating shit is lame af
You could just say you don't like glitch abuse. Same message but without being rude without any good reason.
Speedruns of this game without glitch also exists somewhere on my channel if you're interested. Have a nice day pal !
@@NintendoHardGamer I saw it and it was good but that doesn’t change that cheating is LAME AF!!
@@christophervillarreal8565 Ahah alright alright
@@NintendoHardGamer that no glitch speed run was sick I would’ve never even beat the game when it first came out I couldn’t even get passed the demons at the stair case when I was 6 😂