Freewing Yak-130 Red 70mm 12 blade 6S EDF Jet Attempt to fly 1
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Introducing the Freewing 12 blade 70mm EDF Yak-130, the latest in Freewing’s exciting 70mm EDF 6s jet series! This aircraft delivers on so many levels and truly impressed us at the flying field. Finally, a compact and affordable model of the popular Yak-130 design with a range of features seldom seen in the 70mm format.
FEATURES:
Simplified EPO construction for comfortable handling at all speeds
NEW! Now comes with the Freewing 70mm 12-Blade EDF 6S Power System w/ 3048-2150KV (6S PNP only)
60 Amp Hobbywing ESC with XT60 connector and 5A BEC
Removable wings and carbon spar
High visibility “Red 02” scale trainer scheme
Electronic retractable landing gear with 3mm steel wire struts and metal trunnions
Nylon hinges on aileron and elevator
Plastic-sheathed nose cone and wing tip missile rails for added durability
All electronics come pre-installed for your convenience (6S PNP only)
Some gluing and assembly required
Hey Pilot Robert! All Freewing planes need to calibrate the ESC to the transmitter. Turn the transmitter on. Move the throttle stick to full power. Plug the battery in the plane and wait 2 seconds. When You hear two beeps, lower the throttle stick. You will then hear several beeps corresponding to how many cells your battery has. After that you should hear a long beep which means that the throttle has been set. That's how I setup my Freewing Stinger 90 and BAE Hawk planes and the work perfectly. Good luck.
I did my friend. But no way to get more then 1.1kg of thrust.
@@PetrincicBrosRC How is the battery? All cells balanced? You used 40% of the battery with two aborted takeoffs. Something is not right. You should be able to get 4 to 5 minutes of flying time on this airplane with that battery. Try another one.
You two seem to be the perfect couple completing each other.
Pilot Robert talking fast all the time.
Captain Blaz calm laid back and with a lovely kind of humor, often teasing Pilot Robert.
Anyway love you two, always give me a great time with your videos!
Big salute from the north of Sweden
+1
.. still learning all I can about EDFs .. so this was very interesting for me ..
hey, never mind this is brand product - always test at least thrust like your RB designs ..
my first guess would be to test this batt. like many said, but then it can be that something moved inside - you have very interesting results with changing inlets, rear pipes .. those suckers are sensitive to that ..
watching very anxiously what your findings would be on this - thanks for fun video as always!!
Gentlemen, I agree with Angel. I think the battery has an internal problem. I had this same thing on my Freewing 90mm F-16. I had used the same battery the week before with no problems, then suddenly it was low on power. Thank you for the video, and good luck!
Thank you Captain Blaz for being you and occasionally zooming in on things other than Robert, lol. Now at least I have an idea where you guys are!. Beautiful country!
It took off and landed in a straight line....thatz a stunt. Salute.
Any flight you can walk away undamaged is a good flight. So this was a learning flight. You will get it. Can't wait to see it fly my friends!! Salute!!!
Absolutely a learning outcome here. Love the measurements made with the strain guage. I will get one immediately.
Captain Blaź you are the king of the slow zoom!! Pilot Robert I am an amateur as well, so I can't explain it other than to say it has something to do with efficiency. I had similar trouble with a scratch build where I had more thrust on 3s than on a 4s battery. Again I can't explain it, but it is noted in the manual for the Yak 130 that the 12 blade version is meant for 4s batteries. I'll bet that if you just swap battery for a 4s it will fly perfect with more thrust. I wish I could explain the science behind it, but give it a try, I'll bet you'll be surprised.
Haha! you got to take it home, ...not in a bag, that's a bonus for a Jet maiden! You need a HIGH C rating on a newish battery to get that Jet in the air, and test the NEW battery on the bench to see what thrust you get great vid thanks for sharing
The way to stop that issue that you were talking about the flaps going down and then back up when you plug in the battery and the other planes retracts going down and back up. After your airplane is setup and everything working do a rebind and that will solve all that. Hope this helps!
It was good to watch you guys work through a problem. It’s part of the hobby too:) I think it was a perfect test for the landing gear in the tall grass!
I would be shocked if there wasn't something wrong with your battery. Something was defiently off there. I can't wait to here the updates from your testing my friends! 😀
Like you said my friend. I have tried again at home with new Admiral baterrie and got the same thrust again.
Oh wow. Very interesting test even if it didn't stay in the air for long. Nice work Robert and Blaž
LOL @ Capt. Blaz with the ZOOMING haha.
He just loves to screw with me a little. I always know when he is zooming somewhere else. But its still fun. Cheers my friend.
Thanks for uploading another great video gentlemen.....i really like that you guys will post videos even if they are good bad or ugly and not just show perfect flights like others do....You show the real side of the hobby that not every maiden is a perfect one and can at least laugh about it afterwards.....Remember ...he who turns and walks away lives to fly another day
Very good video and I learned a lot: the plane is superb with ground effects, it is laterally stable, it is beautiful! The designers are sculptors. Another thing. Those shirt sleeves really irk us poor souls shivering in the US. I could almost smell the low smoke of temperate Autumn. You're very lucky!
You guys are so funny. Thank you for all the laughs and for keeping the vidos real and Unedited
Thanks for such kind words and for all support my friend. And dont worry, I dont even have time to edit anything. Really.
This is one of the better channels on UA-cam. You guys are great!
I’m sure you will sort this out, most likely bad battery.
All safe for another day of testing.
Big salute to my Canadian Brothers for providing this Yak!
Keep us posted on this
-Brad
Shazbat!!! If the battery isn’t the issue, then pull the hatch and see what motor you have. The 6 cell setup uses a 3048 2150kv motor. A smaller motor means it’s 4s.
I fly with a Gensace 6s 3300mah 45c battery and get all the power imaginable.
Thinking you have a 4s setup and you overloaded the system.
Looking forward to seeing what you find out.
I have found your rc airstrip on google earth near Sentjakob. Very cool. You are making me laugh so much today. Thank you. Keep up the awesome videos.
They even have their airstrip labeled on Google Maps with 2 reviews lol.
Your airstrip is called nightclub on Google Earth ? In dutch this means ,Danceclub or stripclub 😜😜😜 really Funny ....’!!!! Offcourse this is the work of captain blaz hahahaha
@@TheRelic57 Ya thats so funny...i love it.
I found it too - well done Pilot Robert and Captain Blaž - excellent advertising!
where is the strip in relation to town? SW N SE? i don't see it.
No flight but this is exactly what your channel is about... We get to learn from this experience. Thumbs up. Also.. you should name your camera The Wind Machine
That’s not hot , today in Australia it’s going to be 36 degree, so nice cool weather to fly your Yak :)
Bad lipo indeed put a 6 cell in plus 60 amp speedie
Sunshine,warm weather,so what no flying. Still good vid and you'll soon sort it out. Snowing and 25 deg F here in NH,US.
Yes, ! nothing better than flying, it even helped me overcome hard times in life
Many of my EDFs never seemed to have big enough intake for air. I put cheater holes in the bottom of the fuselage for more air, which was a big requirement on my big jets like my Byron F-16. It had a big "cheater hole" even for the Nitro Engine, but who knows, lighter battery may be a good test. Looks like summer there again. Lucky you! Hang in there.~Dave
Nicely saved Robert!! I would agree with other commenters that there may well be something wrong with your lipo. Sorry Captain Blaz but I think the size of the battery was OK. Yes, it would go better with a lighter battery but it simply needs more thrust.
I had a good time with you guys even if we didn't get of the ground ...yet
I also recall some of the 6S freewing ESC's needing setting to "full power" I read where the Freewing F4 90mm guys were talking about it.
Another great video. You show it as it is. No excuses. The real deal. Dis is it, eh?
Why to lie and hide something my friend at the end. Who cares if I wasnt flying today, we still had great time and the test was pretty good. But now I must see what is wrong here.
I think you have a cell down there Robert as the motor was not producing the power it should have done,that battery should have been more than adequate and the model could easily take the weight of the extra size,if its not the battery then ESC is suspect ?
Maybe my friend. But I did test it again at home with new Admiral 50c baterrie and it was the same again.
At least you have proved that the landing gear works really good on rough terrain... I hope you get this one to fly soon!
As always, Your video is top notch! It sounded as if something wasn’t holding the amps steady... maybe something defective.. those edf’s should be screaming!!!! I look forward to the next video!!!! You guys are the Best!
You chaps did a good job
Thanks my friend.
Love it. Still can't wait for the mig 29 maiden. Would love a salute from u. Respect always. Keep up the good work guys. Absolutely love ur channel
Dear fly friends I salute you also I love you channel looking the last weeks your movies on You Tube and today become a member of you channel your interaction between you both is making this a entertaining and informative channel keep up your good work gratings from the Netherlands
BTW Robert told between 3300 and 3500 Mah not 4500 Mah.
Check the internal resistance of the battery
I enjoy a good mystery.. I know you will solve the problem....Good luck.
I'm so jealous, flying in short sleeves in February. It was -14 C here this morning, but warm weather is coming.
Can you imagine that my friend. Iam wondring already what will the summer look like.
It's all good Pilot Robert. At least you got some exercise lol. Anyway another good day since nothing broke and still in one piece 👍Try again tomorrow. Lots of love from Guam 🤙🤙🤙
You guys are great and I love your videos. When you have an issue with the battery and you put the battery checker on to test you should also check the voltage of each cell to see if you have a bad cell. Also use half flaps for take off, and I have seen some using 5000 mha batteries with no problem in this plane. Good luck and I will be looking forward to your next video.
Sounds like the battery Robert but hey as long as that bird is good for future flights it's a very nice plane.
Hmmmm......doesn't sound like a great power to weight ratio for a jet,but I'm sure you will sort it out Pilot Robert.Great zooming and fun video as always Captain Blaz. Love your channel!
Do you guys ever fly slope gliders? Have you seen what's going on here in the US with slope scale gliders? And then there is the crazy art of Dynamic Slope Soaring. I think the record now is over 500 mph with a glider.
Nice Google Map view looking down at your RC Field.
Member of my club flies this bird with admiral 4000 pro without any problem
Just try different esc or motor,if you can make drain pipe to fly you can make this yak to fly too
Great try Robert! Great Jet, We know you will make it fly perfect and with a perfect landing!
Thanks my friend. I will fly this baby at the end no matter what.
Well on the positive side - I’ve only just noticed your airstrip is marked & named on Google Maps. You have something in common with Heathrow!
Regards
Russell
Crazy weather this year here too Robert! Had fall like weather up until two weeks ago and now it is acting like winter here!
The world is really changing my friend. Iam wondering right now how the summer will look like.
Back to the drawing board. But she lives to fly another day. Hay.
Like you said my friend. I will make this plane fly no matter what.
Nice try Pilot Robert! It will be flying good very soon,I am sure! The weight of the battery should not be a problem,but maybe the battery is not strong enough or the esc is not good?It will be great when it does fly,so hurry up and get it in the air,I can't wait to see it!! That camera zooms pretty good,eh Captain Blaz? I like your weather better than mine,cheers guys!
Good video , battery lacks power , replace and try again , can't wait to see it fly , check thrust again with new battery , good luck
Takeoff flaps @ 10-15% would lower the stall speed maybe allowing you to get in the air but you would have been in trouble keeping it flying once you raised them. Don’t think it was the battery weight though. I went back and forth between this and the Bae Hawk, they both have similar performance and use the same batteries, so if the Hawk flew well, this should have done so as well. BTW, I got the Hawk because of your video.
great video guys. i know you will get it sorted out soon
i really love this bird so much, i remember the unboxing video .... glad to see the landing gears can handle the truth, cannot wait to see the next video on what went wrong here! big salute as always!
Hey Guys, first of all - Great videos! Now to the plane, we had the 90mm version on our field in Austria several years ago. Nearly same problems. As the YAK has 2 "edf" outlets, you loose really much of thrust by the design. On the 90mm version, we needed to upgrade from 6S to 8S and use another EDF unit (Jetfan 90mm V2). Afterwards, all went fine. Before, as allready said, the same behavior as you had on this video, including stall right after the start when using flaps. To get her in the air as she is, there are 2 thing neccessary I think: Wind (and not less wind!) and a longer run time until you pull the elevator. Then she will fliy. Please do not try a smaller battery, the Freewing EDFs need every AMP they get!!! Greatings!!!
Oh yeah my friend. I was really going mad about what is going on here. I knew that the baterria was not the problem here. I have also upgraded it with high speed EDF and ESC from RP plane for wich I know that I can have 2kg of thrust, but still I get only 1.4kg. There is something wrong with the construction of this plane and right now as we speak Iam testing how to make exhaust holes smaller to get more air speed at the back. It must be that. Thanks for great informations my friend. I will make this bird fly good so help me God and I hope FReewing will watch ;-)
@@PetrincicBrosRC you need to have around 2,5kg of thrust native, then it should be fine I think. Post a Pic from the inner Side of the outlets, right behind the EDF. Maybe there is a way. Does the plane have some cheater wholes? I do not think, that the outlets are to small...
18 degrees and you're in a tshirt?? Real man!
Oh yeah my friend. Thanks.
Hey there guys...great video...just perfect for a better monday... :-) go 6S 5000mah all the way to the back and tkof flaps (Blaz is right about the ratio low speed x flaps, just apply full and use all the legth you can get before pull ELE) ...i fly from a grass rwy and had tons of flights with my former 130...cheers from Brazil as usual! #jets4fun
I think i heard the EDF loosing RPM's after a few seconds. Try running the fan motor for a longer time and listen again. Interesting !
Never mind, it started the day loking pretty and has ended the day looking pretty.
I'm sure you'll make it fly at some point. _Still loving the squabbling_ :D
At the end the bird is still in one piece and it was fun anyway to test it. Cheers my friend.
Is your fan tight and on in the correct position? Great outing Pilot Robert and CPT Blaz, still an epic video. Every one of us have experienced this kind of maiden Jeff in LA USA
Great looking jet guy's and a great video as always , i thumbs up the video before i even watch it . All the best my friends ....................
Thanks my friend. But I still dont know what is going on here with the thrust.
Good thing it’s in one piece, could have went worst....you’ll figure it out, is it getting enough air in the ducts....maybe old battery IDK....this is why I love your videos never dull moments....lol
Had the ReadytoFly Yak 4S Version
It flew not perfect but ok
(4s 4000)
Then I put my (4s 4200 ) in it and it was amazing.
Maybe that’s also your problem
Try it again with a new one
But: Great Video
Big big salutes to you and Captain Blaz!
Doesn't matter if u fly or not. So entertaining
Thanks my friend for such kind words and for all support.
Beautiful looking jet. I think the battery must be defective, or old, or too low C rating, or something. You will get it figured out and then have a great maiden flight! 👍
Šentjakob 🙂 - Slovenian Skunk Works, Area 52 located. We visit you soon.. 😁
That was very interesting to watch my friends. Any body else would've not bothered uploading the video or they would've edit it out . It did sound like you was losing power. Is one of your cell's gone down? Big salute from the UK. 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍😀😀
Check your radio to se if you have full potential set right , I love your video. You guys take care now you here!
Well the undercarriage is very strong....good video, just love this plane....I think it's the battery not holding full charge maybe.....very interesting....Blaz loves his Happy time test plane......cant wait to see what in it this time....
The bird is great but I really dont understand this thrust. Cheers my friend.
Very good ground attack plane as we see :)
Ah, bummer it didn't fly. I'm really curious what the problem is. Thanks for posting the video anyway :)
Thank you for the dentertainment video guys. I keep looking forward for you're video's
This one was very interesting it was bit of a mystery with the lack of power 🤔
The best thing in this hobby is that we never know what will happen next. I love it. Thanks for all suppport and big salute from Slovenia.
Spoken like the LIFE of a TRUE modeler...Its not always what you expect it to be...Sometimes things just don't go right...You will figure it out, I am sure of it...
Do you have a 6S with a high C rating like 60C? The battery may be too far back also...Also, check the battery, each cell, push the cell button and see if one is lagging...Balance the cells and always put them in storage mode...I doubt it was the esc or edf...It wanted to rotate but lacked power/thrust...You will figure it out...
Remember, it's not a walk of shame if you run! ;)
awesome try guys....failures are an opportunity to learn something new !! Keep up the good work.
LIke you said my friend. But I still dont know what Iam doing wrong here. I just dont have enough power.
keep doing what you are doing boys your awesome.
Hvala vam
Great plane guys but there is a power issue. It should be screaming with that battery.
Could be the ESC needs to be calibrated. Switch on the transmitter, put throttle up full then plug in the battery. Move throttle down until you hear the beeps for how many cells your battery has and then the ESC is calibrated.
Love your videos ... The Bronx appreciates it..lol
I like that "Buy somthing and fly it already" haha. I love the bird it is beautiful we godda get that baby where it belongs in the air I wonder if the batterie has some bad cells in it,it will read that it is fully charged but as soon as you need some amps it drop downs to nothing.. so just a thought but you know a million times more then I do about these things but I have no dought you guys will have it shooting up into the sky like a rocket in no time...
If you put a watt meter on that plane, you will see a substantial voltage sag. I heard it as soon as she lifted off. That pack isn't good enough for the high amp draw of the 12 bladed EDF anymore. Do the same with a newer lipo and I can guarantee you won't have that voltage sag. My buddy here in the states flies his on a 5000mah, you shouldn't have any problem with that 4000mah what so ever!!
I have teated it again at home with new Admiral baterrie and still just 1.1kg of thrust. I just dont know what to think here anymore. Cheers my friend.
A great example of honesty!!!
Very good guyz!!!!!!
Why to lie and pretend. I wasnt flying but it was still great test and the plane is like new. Cheers my friend.
HA HA !! I know why they call it the YAK! When it doesn't fly you can always yak, yak, yak !! roflmao ! What to say eh? Capt Robert you might have a bad cell in the battery. Maybe try 2 smaller batteries in parallel and see what the thrust is eh? Maybe it is still too nose heavy, I didn't see you check the CG. I think you said it was still a little nose heavy. That could be the problem. Who knows. The main thing is that your tried, it was great fun watching you both chatting and discussing, which there is always something to learn for us viewers and besides, we had another look at that beautiful Jak I mean Kak, no Yak yak yak hahaha!! Thanks for the fun and the great video camera work by Capt Blaz. We all know it will fly next time even if you have to hire 2 YAKS to pull it down the runway!! ha ha .. Happy Flying
Salute grampa ken. I like your remarks, at first I was disappointed in the inability to fly but you made me laugh. Thank you. As you say, maybe something very simple is wrong with it.
Nitro RC truck video coming this week just for you Captain Blaz and Pilot Robert!
Oh yeah my friend. We use to drive nitro cars in the past a lot.
Hello again. you guys are the funniest, I love your videos. Robert, I see Capt. Blaz is screwing around with camera again! Maybe he needs to be demoted to Private Blaz! LOLLOLLOL!
Thanks for such kind words my friend and for all support.
Bumma, I’m sure you mad scientists will work this out 😆
That's really strange.....hope you get it figured out Robert. It is a beautiful plane though. I'm sure if anyone can figure it out you can my friend. You'll get it flying I'm sure. Good luck.
I will think of something here my friend. I will fly this beautiful plane at the end no matter what.
Watched again no sound with only subtitles , the first one that made me laugh was should have said the test of the plane but came up as the death of the plane, the second one said battery condom so funny love it.
Greetings Pilot Robert and Captain Blaz! I had a very similar problem with an EDF setup, which ended in total motor failure (cooked!) in short order. I do not believe you should have drained 40% of the battery with that brief activity and it was evident in the audio that the motor rpm's (and obviously the corresponding fan pressure) were quickly Diminishing. Assuming the battery capacity is OK, I suspect the current draw is excessive and that you have a defective motor and/or an ESC issue. In my case, both were junk and so I replaced both. Of course, this may be even more complex, so I am anxious to hear the results of your "Sherlock Holmes" investigation and diagnosis! And regardless, it was another highly entertaining video! Consider me a forever loyal viewer, if stuff flies or not! Best Regards from an old phart flyer in Ohio!
Great video, need a huge catapult to get it up to speed
You two will figure it out. No doubt.
We will have to my friend. No other way here. We must fly this sexi plane no matter what.
I’ll await Maiden 2
Hey Robert do not feel bad because when I had that plans about 4 years ago it was only offered with a 4s. It struggled but once in the air it wasn't too bad. It is definitely heavy and should have been sold with 6s 2200,. When I have an optionof battery capacities what I do if I want bigger battery is I go also up in the c rating discharge.
My guess would be a damaged cell in the battery, would explain the reduced power and the fast drain time.
Hey Robert,
Haven’t read all the comments jet-sorry mabe someone asked already.
I’am happy to see that the Yack 130 reached your hangar!! I would love to see you guys to compare the Freewing to the FMS Version-because many pilots seem to be not sure wich one is better-or are they both the same?
All the best for you-you’re doing well on this channel!!!!
Ps. Normally those inrunner Fan is very powerful-goes in the air by itself after a short way?!
I think the thrust value is okay. The thrust does not have to equal the weight of the plane unless you want to hover......LOL But then again, because it's a ducted fan, the plane will need a longer time and runway to build up enough speed for take off. You might be trying to lift off with up elevator to soon, causing the plane to slow down because there is no outside propeller pushing air over the wings. Then again, it could be the battery. I trust you will find the problem and I look forward to seeing this model in the air next time...good luck.
Pilot Robert and Captain Blaz, lovely looking Yak-130.. I was wondering if one of the cells is down or failed on the battery and lacking power. unless weight is the issue with that battery fitted just a thought. Looking forward to the update and second flight of this lovely looking plane.
There is a little problem with one cell, but I tested the plane again at home with Admiral 50c baterrie and still get the same thrust. Iam still wondering what the hell is going on here. Cheers my friend.
although i her you said i calibrated the plane but maybe this help:-
1-start the radio control 2-put the throttle at full 3-start plan 4-the esc will calibration 5-put the throttle back to minimum 6- now check the thrust at full throttle :D
Well I did that my friend twice. Always the same resault.
Robert don't get mad you will get a grip on this plane it a new plane it has some bugs to work out
I hope that you will soon find out what's wrong that is not enough power... old battery maybe. We are waiting for the flight nr. 2.
Hmmm. At 2 kg the Yak is not to heavy but the 1.2 kg thrust is a bit low. 1:1 power to weight would be nice. Great looking jet.
Lovely bird my friends, big salute, it is a shame it didn't fly
I love this baby and I cant wait to finaly fly it. Cheers my friend.