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КОМЕНТАРІ • 52

  • @WaiWai-qv4wv
    @WaiWai-qv4wv 24 дні тому +3

    respect

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  24 дні тому

      Thanks dear❤️

  • @montynorth3009
    @montynorth3009 23 дні тому +2

    Once Theta is calculated to be 30 degrees.......
    From bisector angle theory.
    3/4 = CB/BD.
    Thus CB = 3/7 x CD & BD = 4/7 x CD.
    The ratio of areas follows due to common heights.
    Area of triangle ABC = 3/7 x 3 root 3.
    1/2 x 3 x AB x sin 30 = 3/7 x 3 root 3.
    3/4 x AB = 3/7 x 3 root 3.
    AB = 3/7 x 3 root 3 x 4/3.
    12 root 3/7.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @laxmikantbondre338
    @laxmikantbondre338 24 дні тому +5

    Sin 120 is also √3/2. So theta becomes 60. So there is second answer too

    • @laxmikantbondre338
      @laxmikantbondre338 24 дні тому

      Considering Theta as 60 the Answer is 12/7

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 23 дні тому

      @@laxmikantbondre338 While your answer is also correct, PreMath assumes angle CAD is acute.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Thanks for the feedback ❤️
      You are the best!

    • @devondevon4366
      @devondevon4366 22 дні тому

      If triangle is obtuse scalene or acute scalene

  • @murdock5537
    @murdock5537 23 дні тому +2

    Nice! φ = 30° → sin⁡(φ) = 1/2 → cos⁡(φ) = √3/2 → cos⁡(2φ) = sin⁡(φ) = 1/2 → sin⁡(2φ) = cos⁡(φ) = √3/2
    ∆ ACD → AC = 3; AD = 4; CD = BC + BD = a + b; BAC = DAB = θ; AB = k
    (1/2)sin⁡(2θ)12 = 6sin⁡(2θ) = 3√3 → sin⁡(2θ) = √3/2 = sin⁡(2φ) → θ = φ
    3/a = 4/b → b = 4a/3 → (1/2)sin⁡(φ)3k = 3k/4 = (3/7)3√3 → k = 12√3/7

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @sergeyvinns931
    @sergeyvinns931 23 дні тому +1

    Area triangie ACD=3*4*si2Q/2=3\/3. sin2Q=\/3/2. 2Q=60degrees. Q=30ddegrees. 3AB*sin30/2+4AB*sin30/2=3\/3.
    АВ=2*3\/3/7sin30=12\/3/7!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @DB-lg5sq
    @DB-lg5sq 24 дні тому +2

    شكرا لكم على المجهودات
    يمكن استعمال
    12sinCAD =6(racine3)
    ...
    CAD=60
    CAB=30
    7xsin (CAB)=6(racine3)
    ....
    x=12/7 (racine3)

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  24 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @marcelowanderleycorreia8876
    @marcelowanderleycorreia8876 24 дні тому +1

    One of the funniest questions ever!!! Congratulatons professor!!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @jamestalbott4499
    @jamestalbott4499 23 дні тому

    Thank you!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      You are very welcome!
      Thanks ❤️

  • @ChuzzleFriends
    @ChuzzleFriends 24 дні тому +1

    A = 1/2 * a * b * sinC
    3√3 = 1/2 * 4 * 3 * sin(2θ)
    = 6 * sin(2θ)
    (√3)/2 = sin(2θ)
    2θ = sin⁻¹[(√3)/2]
    2θ = 60°
    θ = 30°
    3√3 = [1/2 * 3 * AB * sin(30°)] + [1/2 * AB * 4 * sin(30°)]
    = (1/2 * 3 * AB * 1/2) + (1/2 * AB * 4 * 1/2)
    = 3/4(AB) + AB
    = 7/4(AB)
    (12√3)/7 = AB
    So, the length of segment AB is (12√3)/7 units (exact), or about 2.97 units (approximation).

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @barttemolder3405
    @barttemolder3405 22 дні тому

    Angle CAD can be larger than 90 degrees, so φ could be 60° as well; then the area would be 3√3 just the same but AB would be shorter:
    3√3 = 3x(½sin⁡(φ)) + 4x(½sin⁡(φ)), sin⁡(φ) = ½√3
    --> 3√3 = x(¾√3) + x√3
    --> x = 12/7 .

  • @nenetstree914
    @nenetstree914 24 дні тому +5

    I got 2 answers, the other one is AB=12/7.

    • @misterenter-iz7rz
      @misterenter-iz7rz 24 дні тому

      Same as me.

    • @devondevon4366
      @devondevon4366 22 дні тому

      You are correct since he said at 1:01, 'This diagram may not be true to scale.'
      There are two answers to this problem since the length of a CD can be sqrt 13 or sqrt 37, depending on the type of triangle.
      It is sqrt 13 if it is an Acute scalene (and it looks like one), and it is sqrt 37 if it is an Obtuse scalene.
      In other words, there is a triangle with sides 3, 4, and sqrt 13, area 3 sqrt 3, and one angle of 60 degrees.
      AB in this case = 4 * sine 46.102/sine 103.898 = 2.969 or 2.97
      But there is also another triangle with sides 3, 4, and sqrt 37 with area 3 sqrt 3 and one angle 120 degrees
      AB in this case = 4 * sine 25.285/ sine 94.715 = 1.714 or 12/7
      So, as said above, AB can either be sqrt 13 or sqrt 37.
      He has to indicate whether it is obtuse scalene or acute scalene.

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 24 дні тому +2

    3√3=(1/2)*3*4*sin2θ..θ=30..posto α=ADC ..risulta..AB/sinα=4/sin(θ+α)...AB/sin(2θ+α)=3/sin(θ+α)..divido le equazioni..risulta ctgα=5/3√3..tgα=3√3/5..AB=4sinα/sin(α+θ)=2,969=12√3/7..mah,???

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  24 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @PrithwirajSen-nj6qq
    @PrithwirajSen-nj6qq 24 дні тому +1

    DEIIAC
    Extended AB meets DE at E.
    AED triangle
    AD=DE=4
    Ang ACE =120
    Cos 120=-1/2=(16+16-AE^2)/2*4*4
    AE=4√3
    Two triangles ACB and BDE are similar
    AB/BE=AC/DE=AC/AD=3/4
    AB=4√3*3/7=12√3/7

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @PrithwirajSen-nj6qq
    @PrithwirajSen-nj6qq 22 дні тому

    U have proved angle CAB=30 degrees
    Now I like to use angle bisector theorem in 🔺 ACD
    CB/BD=3/4
    Now area of ACB/area of ADB=3/4(as height is same and areas will be proportionate to bases)
    Area of ACB=3√3*3/7=9√3/7
    In other way
    Area of ACB=1/2*3*AB*sin30
    =3/4AB
    Then 3/4AB=9√3/7
    AB =9√3/7*4/3=12√3/7
    Please comment. Unrest request.

  • @devondevon4366
    @devondevon4366 22 дні тому

    2.969
    A different approach
    Area or A = 3 sqrt 3 a=3 b =4 , and c =p
    A^2 = 27
    Let's find the unknown side using Heron's formula Area = sqrt [s (s-a)(s-b)(s-c)]
    A^2 = s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)
    s = ( a+ b+ c )/2
    Let the third side = p
    Hence s= ( 3+ 4 + p)/2
    s = 3.5 + 0.5 p
    27 = 3.5 +0.5p (3.5 + 0.5p -3)(3.5 + 0.5p-4)( 3.5 + 0.5p -p)
    27 = 3.5 + 0.5p ( 0.5 + 0.5p)( -0.5 + 0.5p ) (3.5-0.5p)
    27 = (3.5 + 0.5p)(3.5 - 0.5p)( 0.5 + 0.5p)(-0.5 + 0.5p) Notice two difference of squares
    27 =(12.25-0.25p^2)( -0.25 +0.25 p^2)
    27 = -3.0625 +0.0625p^2 -0.0625p^4 + 3.0625p^2
    27 = - 3.0625 + 3.125 p^2 - 0.0625 p^4
    0 = -27 - 3.0625 + 3.125p^2 - 0.0625p p^4
    0= 0.0625 p^4 - 3.125 p^2 + 3.0625 + 27 multiply both sides by -1
    0= 0.0625 p^4 - 3.125 p^2 + 30.0625
    let n =p^2 then
    0= 0.0625 n^2 - 3.125 n + 30.0625
    Using the quadratic formula calculator n = 13 and n= 37
    Hence p^2 = 13 and p^2 = 37
    p = sqrt 13 or p= sqrt 37 ie the length of CD = sqrt 13 or sqrt 37
    Since the triangle appears to be an acute scalene, p = sqrt 13.
    (But it could have also been an Obtuse scalene triangle in this p= sqrt 37 since he said the diagram is not to scale)
    Since there are three sides, the Law of Cosine can be used, and
    the angles are 60, 73.898 and 46.102 degrees
    Hence A = 60 degrees
    and theta = 30 degrees
    Hence, to find length AB, use 30 degrees, 4, and 46.102 degrees and the law of sines
    180 - 30 + 46.102 = 103.898 degree
    AB = 4. ( sin 46.102)
    ------------------
    sin 103.898
    AB = 4 ( 0.74230643)
    AB = 2.969 Answer

  • @think_logically_
    @think_logically_ 23 дні тому

    Once we found sin(2θ) =√3/2, we know that cos(2θ) = ±1/2. Then by cosine rule CD² = 25±12, so either CD=√13, or CD=√37. Given all three sides of the triangle, we can easily find the length of bisector, either through the well-known formula, or using equalities: BC:BD=AC:AD along with AB² = AC×AD - BC×BD (BTW, that's how the formula for bisector is obtained).

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @thepi553
    @thepi553 23 дні тому +1

    I had been solving this question from 1 hour but i could solve then i started the video and saw that solution is too easy🤣🤣. I laughed on myself for a while and learnt the new approach for solving this type of question.
    Thanks sir for giving such a question.
    ☺️☺️

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      No worries. We are all lifelong learners. That's what makes our life exciting and meaningful!
      Take care ❤️

    • @thepi553
      @thepi553 23 дні тому

      @@PreMath ok sir, thanks☺️☺️

  • @Celanish
    @Celanish 24 дні тому +1

    This one is easy !

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @misterenter-iz7rz
    @misterenter-iz7rz 24 дні тому

    6sin 2t=3sqrt(3), sin 2t=sqrt(3)/2, 2t=60 or 120, t=30 or 60, 1/2×3×AB×sin 30=(3/7)×3sqrt(3), AB=(4/3)×(9/7)sqrt(3)=(12/7)sqrt(3) or 1/2×3×AB×sin 60=(9/7)sqrt(3), AB=(4/3sqrt(3))(9/7)sqrt(3)=12/7.😊😊😊

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @valentinconito3777
    @valentinconito3777 23 дні тому

    If Sin(2x) = sqrt(3)/2, then 2x=60° or 2x=120°, then we could have 2 possible solutions....

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому +1

      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @unknownidentity2846
    @unknownidentity2846 24 дні тому +1

    Let's face this challenge:
    .
    ..
    ...
    ....
    .....
    The area of the yellow triangle can be calculated in the following way:
    A(ACD) = (1/2)*AC*AD*sin(∠CAD)
    3√3 = (1/2)*3*4*sin(∠CAD)
    √3/2 = sin(∠CAD)
    ⇒ ∠CAD = 60°
    Now we are able to calculate the length of AB:
    A(ACD)
    = A(ABC) + A(ABD)
    = (1/2)*AB*AC*sin(∠CAD/2) + (1/2)*AB*AD*sin(∠CAD/2)
    = (1/2)*AB*(AC + AD)*sin(∠CAD/2)
    3√3
    = (1/2)*AB*(3 + 4)*sin(60°/2)
    = (1/2)*AB*7*sin(30°)
    = (1/2)*AB*7*(1/2)
    ⇒ AB = 12√3/7
    Best regards from Germany

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  24 дні тому

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @jayu4579
    @jayu4579 23 дні тому

    How to find the base of this triangle

  • @carlinoiavarone8342
    @carlinoiavarone8342 23 дні тому

    why cd is 5? how can be 5? what is the reason?

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому

      No! CD is not 5.
      Cheers 😀

  • @LuisdeBritoCamacho
    @LuisdeBritoCamacho 23 дні тому +1

    Something is not right formulating this Problema.
    This cannot be a Right Triangle (3 ; 4 ; 5).
    CD cannot be 5. If CD = 5, so the Area should be A = (a * b) / 2 ; A = (3 * 4) / 2 ; A = 12 / 2 and A = 6 Square Units and not, A = 3*sqrt(3) Square Units or A ~ 5,196 Square Units.
    Thanks.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  23 дні тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback ❤️